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Thunder Dan
06-29-2009, 01:17 PM
lol:downspin:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-yaorockets062909&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

As the NBA draft approached, the grim truth about Yao Ming’s(notes) broken left foot hung like an anvil over the Houston Rockets. The fear isn’t that he’s just lost for next season, but longer.

The Rockets and Yao’s reps are frightened over his future, and the concern is the most base of all: Does Yao Ming ever play again?

“The realization has hit them that this is grave,” one NBA general manager said.

For now, the Rockets have privately told league peers it could be a full season before Yao might be able to return to basketball. Multiple league executives, officials close to Yao and two doctors with knowledge of the diagnoses are describing a troubling re-fracture of his navicular bone. Three pins were inserted a year ago, but the foot cracked in the playoffs and isn’t healing.

“It sounds like he’s missing most of next season, if not the entire 82 games,” one league executive who has had recent discussions with the Houston front office told Yahoo! Sports. “That’s all that [the Rockets] will concede quietly, but they know it’s probably much worse.”

Houston general manager Daryl Morey refused comment on Monday and a team spokesman said the Rockets will not have further comment until Yao undergoes additional medical tests.

There’s no reason for the Rockets to disclose the severity of the injury, nor the uncertainty over Yao’s future. Before the Rockets go public with a dire diagnosis, they plan to send him to three more specialists this week, a source said. For now, the Rockets have season tickets and sponsorships to sell. For now, the Rockets will publicly decry these doomsday revelations as premature, but this is the reality that they’re working under within the organization.

This has turned into an impossible situation for the Rockets’ capable GM. Even if Yao plays again, Morey knows it’s just a matter of time until his lower body breaks down. His feet and ankles just can’t support the mobility of his 7-foot-6 frame.

With four surgeries in three years, the Rockets worried they were reaching a breaking point. Well, it’s here. After missing 86 games in the previous three seasons, the 28-year-old Yao missed a mere five this past regular season before injuring his foot during the Rockets’ second-round playoff series against the Los Angeles Lakers.

It wasn’t until last week when Houston issued a statement saying Yao’s fractured foot hadn’t healed properly, that he would be unavailable “indefinitely.” Prior to Thursday’s draft, Morey tried desperately to trade into the high lottery to take Spanish prodigy Ricky Rubio(notes). Houston needed a young star, but had too few assets to make a deal with Memphis or Sacramento. It seemed odd to teams that Houston had thrown Shane Battier(notes) and Aaron Brooks(notes) into offers within weeks of pushing the NBA champion Lakers to seven games in the Western Conference semifinals.

Now, the Rockets have tough decisions to make: Do they keep pushing Tracy McGrady(notes) and his expiring contract on the market or let the $22 million expire next summer? So far, Morey is getting offered bad contracts and junk talent for him. What’s more, does Houston re-sign Ron Artest(notes) to a $40 million-plus contract when contention is no longer viable? Why not create cap space for the summers of 2010 and 2011? Why not get younger now? Yao could opt out of his contract next summer, but odds are that Houston won’t be so fortunate.

The Rockets should do themselves a favor and just start over. That isn’t easy in a sophisticated and rabid NBA market like Houston, but what everyone long suspected has reached fruition: Yao and McGrady are no longer a faulty foundation, but a collapsed one. Houston needs to proceed with an understanding that they’re no longer chasing the Lakers, but beginning again.

Rest assured, Houston has long been fearful that Yao’s responsibilities to the Chinese national team were rapidly contributing to his breakdown, and perhaps they’ve finally been met. Yao wouldn’t have missed the Beijing Olympics for the world, but it was clear he wasn’t fully healed in those Games. The Rockets paid a price for his nationalism, his obligation and now the darkest fears are close to confirmation: It isn’t just a season on the brink for Yao Ming, but perhaps a career.

Pistons < Spurs
06-29-2009, 01:18 PM
dammit! you beat me to it!

manufan10
06-29-2009, 01:19 PM
Damn that sucks. It says his career could be over. :(

robbie380
06-29-2009, 01:19 PM
lol:downspin:

fuck off

Thunder Dan
06-29-2009, 01:20 PM
dammit! you beat me to it!

I'm Yao's biggest fan, I get right on Yao news whenever I can. I get text alerts whenever he gets hurt- good thing I have unlimited texting

DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-29-2009, 01:20 PM
lol:downspin:



:stirpot:

dirk4mvp
06-29-2009, 01:20 PM
This guy has some shitty luck. Or physical make up. Either or.

Kobe™
06-29-2009, 01:21 PM
u posted first..

here's some cookies: w/ milk

http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/85455585.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=60F3A7668C3A2C0049E5825661D57052E30A760B0D811297

DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-29-2009, 01:21 PM
I get text alerts whenever he gets hurt- good thing I have unlimited texting


:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Thunder Dan
06-29-2009, 01:22 PM
This is what I got when I googled "Glue Factory"

http://wnyheritagepress.org/photos_week_2004/gowanda/gowanda_glue_factory_lge.jpg

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/watchdog/blog/yao-ming-picture-1.jpg

VivaPopovich
06-29-2009, 01:22 PM
that sucks. there was so much potential in that rockets team.

the problem is, at 7'6" his feet aren't meant to take the stress of every day nba playing

ginobili's bald spot
06-29-2009, 01:24 PM
I feel bad for Yao. He seems like a good guy.

IronMexican
06-29-2009, 01:25 PM
Sad, but not surprised.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-29-2009, 01:25 PM
I feel bad for Yao. He seems like a good guy.


I feel sorry for Yao but ThunderDan's post was too funny regardless of whether or not I feel sorry for him.

Thunder Dan
06-29-2009, 01:27 PM
I feel bad for Yao. He seems like a good guy.

why do you feel bad for him? He gets the best job in the World now, he gets paid to just hang out. He also can just pick up his option and collect more money next year.

I mean let's be honest, the Rockets weren't going anywhere. Now he just gets to take it easy, pay Chinese Government their cut of his contract, and just hang out. That's nothing to feel sorry for

monosylab1k
06-29-2009, 01:27 PM
I like Yao so hopefully he recovers. But he's definitely a prime candidate for any kind of experimental surgery where his feet are amputated and replaced with robotic Terminator feet.

ginobili's bald spot
06-29-2009, 01:28 PM
I feel sorry for Yao but ThunderDan's post was too funny regardless of whether or not I feel sorry for him.

I do not feel bad for Rockets fans however. Or the Rockets. Fuck you guys.

redzero
06-29-2009, 01:29 PM
There is no such thing as a healthy Rockets team. I would pay to see one.

Banzai
06-29-2009, 01:30 PM
I7rm-yadkGY

iggypop123
06-29-2009, 01:33 PM
now we know why they went after rubio. to blow it up

tomtom
06-29-2009, 01:33 PM
Dang that sucks, Rockets definitely have to look to rebuilding now, I would definitely not resign Artest

Indazone
06-29-2009, 01:34 PM
why do you feel bad for him? He gets the best job in the World now, he gets paid to just hang out. He also can just pick up his option and collect more money next year.

I mean let's be honest, the Rockets weren't going anywhere. Now he just gets to take it easy, pay Chinese Government their cut of his contract, and just hang out. That's nothing to feel sorry for

Today you are the worlds biggest douchebag taking pleasure in someone's demise. I'm with Robbie fuck off!

JamStone
06-29-2009, 01:34 PM
Sorry Rockettes fans.

nkdlunch
06-29-2009, 01:36 PM
it is sad

Yao was one of the few NBA players that actually wanted to play hard and win

Thunder Dan
06-29-2009, 01:38 PM
Today you are the worlds biggest douchebag taking pleasure in someone's demise. I'm with Robbie fuck off!



I'll never feel sorry for NBA players, just as I never feel sorry for people who win the lottery

Spursmania
06-29-2009, 01:39 PM
To all Rocket Fans- I really am sorry. It looked like Yao was finally coming into his own.

LnGrrrR
06-29-2009, 01:45 PM
I like Yao so hopefully he recovers. But he's definitely a prime candidate for any kind of experimental surgery where his feet are amputated and replaced with robotic Terminator feet.

I'm really hoping they have that by the time I grow old :D

Thunder Dan
06-29-2009, 01:46 PM
I like Yao so hopefully he recovers. But he's definitely a prime candidate for any kind of experimental surgery where his feet are amputated and replaced with robotic Terminator feet.

that's similar to the arm they installed in Brady Quinn when he was born

sonic21
06-29-2009, 01:48 PM
sad. i'm sorry rockets fans

ginobili's bald spot
06-29-2009, 01:49 PM
that's similar to the arm they installed in Brady Quinn when he was born

http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/resources/2007/05/yipesbrady.jpg

The Franchise
06-29-2009, 01:52 PM
I wouldn't buy into this just yet, because it makes no sense. First off he just has a hairline fracture, and why would the Rockets tell " league peers" that their best player is done for the season? This entire article goes against common sense. This will end up being a case of imaginative journalism.

Artest93
06-29-2009, 01:55 PM
No Yao, and Cavs still won't win the championship should be the headline........This is devastating if true, however, we all knew this was coming...Now, we will see what Daryl Morey is made of

Double-Up
06-29-2009, 01:56 PM
why do you feel bad for him? He gets the best job in the World now, he gets paid to just hang out. He also can just pick up his option and collect more money next year.

I mean let's be honest, the Rockets weren't going anywhere. Now he just gets to take it easy, pay Chinese Government their cut of his contract, and just hang out. That's nothing to feel sorry for


LeBron's team is garbage you're still bitter over the fact they got their ass handled by the Magic. LeBron is gonna bolt in 2010 and you city hasn't won a championship in what...30 years???? :lol

Double-Up
06-29-2009, 01:58 PM
Fuck ThunderDan, we can meet anywhere name the place and time and I'd beat the shit out you cause you a pussy ass bitch.

Borosai
06-29-2009, 01:59 PM
Yaozuh!

JamStone
06-29-2009, 01:59 PM
Quick, trade T-Mac and Carl Landry for Tyson Chandler and Peja Stojakovic. The Hornets get that big expiring contract and a decent, young big while dumping two big contracts and the Rockets get a serviceable center (also has some injuries but hey, might have to take the risk) who might actually fit decently with the Rockets.

Thunder Dan
06-29-2009, 01:59 PM
Fuck ThunderDan, we can meet anywhere name the place and time and I'd beat the shit out you cause you a pussy ass bitch.

LMAO

:lmao:lmao:lmao:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin

ginobili's bald spot
06-29-2009, 02:00 PM
Fuck ThunderDan, we can meet anywhere name the place and time and I'd beat the shit out you cause you a pussy ass bitch.

:lmao Internet tough guy watch out.

Double-Up
06-29-2009, 02:01 PM
LMAO

:lmao:lmao:lmao:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin

You wouldn't be laughing if a jump through this LCD and choke yo bitch ass. You and your fake stories about hoes and shit, fool you gets no pussy because must of your days are spent on SpursTalk acting like an internet badass.

lil_penny
06-29-2009, 02:02 PM
Sad news.. hope the best for the big guy.. and sorry to all the rocket fans out there... even though most usually laugh at odens problems lol.

balli
06-29-2009, 02:02 PM
http://globalnerdy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/internet-tough-guy-magazine.gif

Thunder Dan
06-29-2009, 02:02 PM
Rockets fans are the best, you just throw a little bait out there and they are like a pack of piranhas

Double-Up
06-29-2009, 02:02 PM
:lmao Internet tough guy watch out.

LOL, not really just really pissed about Yao's injury, it hurts especially after the season we had.

Thunder Dan
06-29-2009, 02:03 PM
You wouldn't be laughing if a jump through this LCD and choke yo bitch ass. You and your fake stories about hoes and shit, fool you gets no pussy because must of your days are spent on SpursTalk acting like an internet badass.

:lmao:lmao when do I talk about hoes?

Double-Up
06-29-2009, 02:04 PM
:lmao:lmao when do I talk about hoes?

Exactly.

ElNono
06-29-2009, 02:04 PM
Is Artest going to jump ship now?

Thunder Dan
06-29-2009, 02:04 PM
LOL, not really just really pissed about Yao's injury, it hurts especially after the season we had.

dude you made it out of the first round for the first time this decade, it's not like it's that great of a feat. Plus, Yao gets hurt every year, if it didn't happen in the offseason it will happen in the season. Just the way things go.

R4R
06-29-2009, 02:04 PM
Great. The only big news we get is an injury to our center.

Double-Up
06-29-2009, 02:05 PM
Anyone who thinks Yao getting hurt is funny has no class and is pathetic. I would feel sorry for ANY team who had their main player get a season ending injury. Where's the fucking respect?

JamStone
06-29-2009, 02:05 PM
Is Double-Up serious? I thought that first post about beating Dan up was just an over-the-top joke. He's serious?

ElNono
06-29-2009, 02:07 PM
Yeah, but... does Yao has ACLs?

Thunder Dan
06-29-2009, 02:07 PM
the good news for Rockets fans is he is only on the books for $16,378,325 next year and $17,686,100 the year after. So you might miss out on the biggest FA pool in the history of the NBA, but you will have money to spend in 2012

Double-Up
06-29-2009, 02:07 PM
dude you made it out of the first round for the first time this decade, it's not like it's that great of a feat. Plus, Yao gets hurt every year, if it didn't happen in the offseason it will happen in the season. Just the way things go.

What feat has Cleveland accomplished? Making the Finals is nice, being swept by the Spurs is not.

Double-Up
06-29-2009, 02:08 PM
the good news for Rockets fans is he is only on the books for $16,378,325 next year and $17,686,100 the year after. So you might miss out on the biggest FA pool in the history of the NBA, but you will have money to spend in 2012

We still have cap room fool, maybe we'll sign LeBron if he doesn't go to NY. :rollin:rollin:lmao

dirk4mvp
06-29-2009, 02:09 PM
What's goin on in this thread?

Thunder Dan
06-29-2009, 02:09 PM
Anyone who thinks Yao getting hurt is funny has no class and is pathetic. I would feel sorry for ANY team who had their main player get a season ending injury. Where's the fucking respect?

a) I'm classless, and have been for awhile

b)I'm just doing it to get a rise out of you. I'm like the rest of NBA fans outside of Houston and don't give a shit about Yao Ming and his boringness

The Franchise
06-29-2009, 02:09 PM
the good news for Rockets fans is he is only on the books for $16,378,325 next year and $17,686,100 the year after. So you might miss out on the biggest FA pool in the history of the NBA, but you will have money to spend in 2012

The funny thing is even with this we still have a better chance of signing the King than your team does. :lol

ginobili's bald spot
06-29-2009, 02:11 PM
Thunder Dan successfully trolling the shit out of Rocketfan once again.

JamStone
06-29-2009, 02:11 PM
Yeah Rockets currently have close to $30 million in cap space for 2010. Even if they re-sign Artest and pick up the options on some of their other current players, they could have around $15-20 million in cap space for 2010.

Thunder Dan
06-29-2009, 02:13 PM
The Rockets 2009-10 Season Outlook
http://wiki.prestospace.org/pub/localphotos/sinking_ship.jpg

Look out below!

redzero
06-29-2009, 02:13 PM
:lmao Internet tough guy watch out.

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/3439/saytoface2ns0.jpg

The Franchise
06-29-2009, 02:13 PM
Thunder Dan successfully trolling the shit out of Rocketfan once again.

You seem to be an excellent co-signer you purple and gold shit.

Thunder Dan
06-29-2009, 02:14 PM
Sorry he can't be a mother fucking hot shot who does pre-game antics that amount to nothing. These examples include taking pictures of your team before the game, massaging your hand in pixie dust and then throwing it up in the sky. While knowing in the end all that bullshit does fucking nothing because you can't win an important game.

yeah, Yao Ming is only a pregame antic away from being exciting

ginobili's bald spot
06-29-2009, 02:18 PM
You seem to be an excellent co-signer you purple and gold shit.

That hurt.

Thunder Dan
06-29-2009, 02:19 PM
You seem to be an excellent co-signer you purple and gold shit.

http://www.ffxils.ca/ethug2.jpg

Double-Up
06-29-2009, 02:21 PM
You know what? I really appreciate the sympathy fans with CLASS have show us, I really do. Hopefully we can overcome this sad tragedy and return to the hardwood. Peace.

J.T.
06-29-2009, 02:22 PM
Well, at least they got Scola in a steal.

Double-Up
06-29-2009, 02:23 PM
CAPTION THIS:

http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Cleveland+Cavaliers+v+Los+Angeles+Lakers+MKlIhbYGZ nHl.jpg

Thunder Dan
06-29-2009, 02:24 PM
You know what? I really appreciate the sympathy fans with CLASS have show us, I really do. Hopefully we can overcome this sad tragedy and return to the hardwood. God bless sons!

You are taking this too seriously. It's basketball. Why do you care if people offer you their support because a guy got hurt? It's not like your mom or wife just died. A basketball player who doesn't give a shit about you got hurt. Big deal

TheManFromAcme
06-29-2009, 02:25 PM
Man, stinks for Yao.
You guys can take a shot at the guy but he's a competitor and above all a classy guy.

Hope Rocket fan sees light at the end of the tunnel.

Not good news. :depressed

Thunder Dan
06-29-2009, 02:25 PM
CAPTION THIS:

http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Cleveland+Cavaliers+v+Los+Angeles+Lakers+MKlIhbYGZ nHl.jpg

Sasha "Can you believe Danny Ferry got Shaq for me?!"

Andy "Yeah no shit, you suck like the Rockets"

Spursmania
06-29-2009, 02:26 PM
Well, at least they got Scola in a steal.

That's true again:depressed

Double-Up
06-29-2009, 02:26 PM
You are taking this too seriously. It's basketball. Why do you care if people offer you their support because a guy got hurt? It's not like your mom or wife just died. A basketball player who doesn't give a shit about you got hurt. Big deal

Would you sing the same song if LeBron was out with a season ending injury? I think not.

Double-Up
06-29-2009, 02:27 PM
Sasha "Can you believe Danny Ferry got Shaq for me?!"

Andy "Yeah no shit, you suck like the Rockets"

Old Shaq won't do shit for you're team if anything he'll take touches away from LeBron.

Thunder Dan
06-29-2009, 02:28 PM
And exciting gets you where? Right.

I guess the same place boring Yao Ming gets you, ousted in the playoffs. Yao doesn't get to the 2nd round though, Cavs atleast make it through a couple series

sribb43
06-29-2009, 02:28 PM
Sucks...but nothin' new to Rockets fans

Thunder Dan
06-29-2009, 02:29 PM
I feel sorry for NBA TV most of all because they have advertising spots they have to sell and losing the biggest star on their main team is going to hurt them

Thunder Dan
06-29-2009, 02:32 PM
NBA TV loses Billy Mays and Yao Ming in 2 days. Talk about bad luck. If the maker of the Snuggie or Sun Setter go bankrupt the network might have to cease operations

Indazone
06-29-2009, 02:38 PM
Great then I hope you all have career ending injuries for your star player on whichever team you support all you douchbags. And you know who you are.

sribb43
06-29-2009, 02:41 PM
Even without Yao the Rockets are better than the Mavs....:depressed

Double-Up
06-29-2009, 02:41 PM
Even without Yao the Rockets are better than the Mavs....:depressed

Not really.

sribb43
06-29-2009, 02:42 PM
T-mac for Amare + fillers?

spurs_fan_in_exile
06-29-2009, 02:45 PM
Damn that sucks. Of all the ways to end up crippled or injured in Houston I never expected "playing for the Rockets" to be so high on the list.

Yao's a class act and a true competitor. For all the things that I hate about the Rockets he's never been one of them.

Double-Up
06-29-2009, 02:47 PM
I can see who's next, ENTER: tlongII

Reeko_Htown
06-29-2009, 02:47 PM
lol:downspin:

Man Fuck You! I hope Shaq falls on Lebron and shatters his MCL you dumb Fuck!

tlongII
06-29-2009, 02:48 PM
LOL Rockets. :lol

Indazone
06-29-2009, 02:51 PM
We need to go out and whatever it takes sign Stoudamire this year or completely tank. Yao will never make it through a season without being injured. He should only be playing about 20 min per game and platooned so he doesn't play back to back's like Bill Walton.

Yao Ming and the froghopper
2009 MAY 12
tags: basketball analytics, froghopper, scaling, Yao Ming
by gravityandlevity
Just a few days after a tough and inspiring performance against the Lakers, Yao Ming is injured again, with a stress fracture in his foot. Lakers coach Phil Jackson commented on Yao’s fragility by saying “A person in physics once told me if man was 60 feet tall, the first step he’d take, he’d completely crumble … Gravity’s a bitch.”

But is it true? Certainly larger people have heavier bodies, but they also have thicker bones and larger muscles. So why are tall people more prone to injury? This post examines that question using one of the simplest and most powerful ideas in physics: the scaling argument. I will also try to make a prediction for the “injury prone-ness” of a person as a function of their height.

Before I get to Yao Ming, allow me to discuss a simple example using what is arguably the best athlete in the animal kingdom: the froghopper. The froghopper is a little insect, barely half a centimeter long, but it has about a 27″ vertical jump. That’s about 140 times its own body length, so in a certain sense it would be like me jumping 840 vertical feet. Pretty impressive. But if we put the froghopper in an enlarging ray, and blew it up 365 times so that it was the same size as me, would it really be able to jump 840 feet?

The answer is no. That’s because an object’s weight is proportional to its body volume, which is proportional to the cube of its size. So making the froghopper 365 times larger would make it million times heavier. The froghopper’s ability to jump depends on the volume of its muscles, which also increase by times after it gets put through the enlarging ray. So the ability of the froghopper to jump remains the same: it gets a lot stronger, but also proportionally heavier. Therefore, a 6-foot froghopper could jump the same height as a half-centimer froghopper: 27 inches. It just looks much less impressive.

Now let’s think about Yao Ming, who is sort of like a normal person put through an enlarging ray. The propensity for one of Yao’s bones to fracture depends on the stress he puts on them. Stress can be defined as weight divided by cross-sectional area. So if weight depends on volume (size^3) and the cross-sectional area of his poor foot bones depends on size^2, then the stress grows as (volume / area) = (size^3 / size^2), or in other words, the stress increases directly with size. You can think of it this way: by virtue of his great height, Yao’s bones are about 1.7 times thicker than the average person’s, but he weighs about 2.2 times more. Thus, his bones have a harder time than yours do.

So how much more likely is he to get injured than the average man (height 5′8″) ? Well, there are people out there who break bones for a living and have addressed this very question. They found that the frequency of stress fracture in bone grows as the stress it is under to the power 0.06. Putting together their conclusions, along with the observation that Yao gets some kind of stress fracture every year or so, we can estimate how many years it would take for athletes of various heights to come down with a stress fracture:



Of course, this chart is just a general prediction and is not meant to be completely accurate. Some people will be hardier than others, and those people tend to be athletes (no stress fractures yet for a 7′1″ Shaquille O’Neal). But the shape is important. It suggests that if you’re under 6 feet tall (hooray, most of the world!) there is really not much risk of a stress fracture. You can have a 20-year career as an athlete without too much worry. But for those above 7 feet tall, your chance of a fracture is about 10 times greater than for your 6-foot brethren.

So finally, was Phil Jackson right about the collapse of a 60 foot man? Actually, by my estimate, he was quite conservative. As far as I can tell, a 16′3″ man would fracture his tibia the first time he took a step.

There is a sad and interesting footnote to this story. The depressing far-right side of the graph above corresponds to the 8′11″ Robert Wadlow, the tallest man in recorded history who suffered from an overactive pituitary gland. By his late teens he was already incapable of walking without leg braces, and he continued to grow until his death at age 22.

What the Rockets have got to do assuming he can recover from this latest injury is severely limit his playing time and at the same time, they have got to limit his salary so they can go sign another impact center. Looking at this graph, he will be injury prone for his entire career.

tlongII
06-29-2009, 02:51 PM
At least you still have Dikembe





oh wait.

ginobili's bald spot
06-29-2009, 02:52 PM
LOL Rockets. :lol

lol Oden

duncan228
06-29-2009, 02:54 PM
I feel bad for Yao, the team and the fans. I don't like to see any player go out with injury. Hope he can make a full recovery and play again.

Greg Oden
06-29-2009, 02:54 PM
lol Oden

lol fuck you

tlongII
06-29-2009, 02:54 PM
lol Oden

lol Bynum

tlongII
06-29-2009, 02:55 PM
I like Yao and think he's a great talent. He just can't stay healthy though.

Greg Oden
06-29-2009, 02:57 PM
tlong will you have my kid?

ginobili's bald spot
06-29-2009, 02:59 PM
lol Bynum

lol first round exit.

Double-Up
06-29-2009, 03:02 PM
LOL Rockets. :lol

lol Oden = Bowie

TampaDude
06-29-2009, 03:03 PM
I feel bad for Yao, the team and the fans. I don't like to see any player go out with injury. Hope he can make a full recovery and play again.

Yeah...sucks for the Rockets...I actually don't hate them...

Thunder Dan
06-29-2009, 03:08 PM
it's like my grandpa told me. When you buy something made in China, it's going to break and it won't last. Ole Grandpa was right again.

bringbackmario
06-29-2009, 03:08 PM
That really sucks, sorry rockets fans. Hope he recovers

JoshO501
06-29-2009, 03:08 PM
Anyone who thinks Yao getting hurt is funny has no class and is pathetic. I would feel sorry for ANY team who had their main player get a season ending injury. Where's the fucking respect?

I agree, I cant see how this is even a little funny.

Thunder Dan
06-29-2009, 03:11 PM
I agree, I cant see how this is even a little funny.

chill out. He isn't dead.

Indazone
06-29-2009, 03:12 PM
chill out. He isn't dead.

You are an idiot

Findog
06-29-2009, 03:12 PM
Bynum is a champion...:lobt2:

so is Michael Doleac and Scott Pollard.

robbie380
06-29-2009, 03:16 PM
chill out. He isn't dead.

how much would you be laughing if lebron blew his knee out? 6 years at 40 mpg can't be good for a body...especially with no championships.

mojorizen7
06-29-2009, 03:23 PM
Wao that sucks.
Hopefully he can get some miracle worker trainers and docs on the case and with some time off and solid rehab he can return strong.
Hate to see a good guy endure this crap.
WTF are the ROCKETS gonna do now?

Thunder Dan
06-29-2009, 03:26 PM
how much would you be laughing if lebron blew his knee out? 6 years at 40 mpg can't be good for a body...especially with no championships.

if Lebron got hurt, I wouldn't let some asshole on a message board get under my skin

45 bank shot
06-29-2009, 03:30 PM
How could you be happy when a player is injured?
Watch out the Karma, otherwise one day your key player will enjoy the same treatment:ihit

robbie380
06-29-2009, 03:31 PM
if Lebron got hurt, I wouldn't let some asshole on a message board get under my skin

not under my skin....you are just acting like a douche bag and attention whore

45 bank shot
06-29-2009, 03:31 PM
it's like my grandpa told me. When you buy something made in China, it's going to break and it won't last. Ole Grandpa was right again.

who the fuck do you think your grandpa is? You stupid piece of shit

sook
06-29-2009, 03:32 PM
lol fucking idiotic rockets fans that have their entire future entrusted into this guy.


I feel like getting onto a megaphone and screaming I told you so. :ihit:bang:bang:bang:bang:bang

DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-29-2009, 03:34 PM
We need to go out and whatever it takes sign Stoudamire this year or completely tank.


Why do so many Rockets fans want Damon Stoudamire?

Thunder Dan
06-29-2009, 03:36 PM
who the fuck do you think your grandpa is? You stupid piece of shit

He is the father of my dad.

redzero
06-29-2009, 03:38 PM
Woah, I know Thunder Dan isn't trying to say that the Cavaliers are exciting to watch. That team plays the ugliest basketball in the league. LeBron is the only notable person on that team.

BlackSwordsMan
06-29-2009, 03:39 PM
one less team in the west to worry about

sook
06-29-2009, 03:39 PM
Anyone who thinks Yao getting hurt is funny has no class and is pathetic. I would feel sorry for ANY team who had their main player get a season ending injury. Where's the fucking respect?

No offense but I find it quite comical. Not the injury itself. But the fact that people actually thought we could build around him when it was so blatantly obvious...

Thunder Dan
06-29-2009, 03:46 PM
No offense but I find it quite comical. Not the injury itself. But the fact that people actually thought we could build around him when it was so blatantly obvious...

see Sook is logical

TheManFromAcme
06-29-2009, 03:58 PM
Textbook example of :deadhorse

Hate to see this happen to Yao but Rocket fan is right.
Yao was officially injury prone 4 years ago.

Red flag city.

Indazone
06-29-2009, 04:00 PM
We need two centers capable of splitting minutes if we are to keep Yao

lefty
06-29-2009, 04:04 PM
I'm Yao's biggest fan, I get right on Yao news whenever I can. I get text alerts whenever he gets hurt- good thing I have unlimited texting
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

sonic21
06-29-2009, 04:14 PM
So Who is going to start at Center for the West All Stars next year?

DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-29-2009, 04:16 PM
So Who is going to start at Center for the West All Stars next year?


Idk it could be as bad as the year Jamal Magloire made the all star team in the east.

Muser
06-29-2009, 04:17 PM
So Who is going to start at Center for the West All Stars next year?

Sun Yue

Chillen
06-29-2009, 04:50 PM
Sad news, I hope he get's better and plays again sometime in the near future. He is a huge man, so it's not surprising that he is having foot problems. Now I know why Houston sat him for the Lakers series, I said it had to be pretty serious for them to sit their star player in such a huge series. At least he led them into the 2nd rd without T-mac. That is a nice accomplishment.

Again, I hope he get's better. Have tons of respect for him as a human being and basketball player.

redzero
06-29-2009, 05:10 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IqM53hCQmrc/R_KMz7kj2XI/AAAAAAAAB-E/mJovzToHDTs/s400/Made_In-China-706811.jpg

Will Artest resign now?

Hornets1
06-29-2009, 05:33 PM
Sorry rockets fans, seriously. Yao is a great player and a great person. He made the NBA popular in the most populated country in the world, serving as the Chinese ambassador of NBA basketball. He did it with class too, never being a "me" player, even though he was talented enough to do so. If we lost CP, I wouldn't even know what to do. Hopefully you guys can stay afloat until this mess gets resolved, like you did in the playoffs.

Good luck rockets! Hopefully your run of bad luck is over.

tp2021
06-29-2009, 06:03 PM
This is terrible. He doesn't deserve to be worked like a mule by the Chinese.

DenDen
06-29-2009, 06:38 PM
No offense but I find it quite comical. Not the injury itself. But the fact that people actually thought we could build around him when it was so blatantly obvious...
So who would you replace Yao with? let me guess Andrew bynum?

duncan228
06-29-2009, 07:18 PM
The latest from the Houston Chronicle.

Yao could miss entire season with foot injury (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bk/bkn/6503064.html)
By Jonathan Feigen
Houston Chronicle

Rockets center Yao Ming’s left foot injury could be severe enough to be season ending or even career-threatening depending on the success of potential treatments chosen, Rockets team physician Tom Clanton said Monday.

"At this point, the injury has the potential for him missing this next season and could be career threatening," Clanton said. "One of the things we are trying to get is a consensus opinion on that, to make certain there is no option we are overlooking that would provide an earlier return or would be an option for treatment that he would prefer rather than doing additional surgery."

Clanton, responding to a story on Yahoo Sports that reported that the Rockets and Yao representatives are concerned Yao will never play again, said that Yao could choose to try again to immobilize the foot in the hopes that the hairline fracture of the tarsal navicular bone would heal on its own, as several of his previous bone injuries have and doctors expected this time.

"We are not going to comment," Rockets general manager Daryl Morey said, "until we have all the facts."

Yao is scheduled to meet with several specialists to consider a wide variety of options. Clanton declined to say what option he expects to recommend.

Because Yao is entirely asymptomatic, there remains a hope that additional time in a boot or cast could allow the bone to heal on its own.

"I don’t think that is necessarily a longshot," Clanton said. "It takes a lot of time.

It may be best to take more time (immobilizing the foot). Sometimes that is the best option."

The surgical treatment options could include placing a pin inside the foot, a bone graft or even realigning the foot to operate differently. Cleveland Cavaliers center Zydrunas Ilgauskas underwent similar procedures, reducing his high arch to a flatter foot position, an option that could be considered for Yao, Clanton said, though his arch is not as high as Ilgauskas’ was.

"It’s more that’s what we’re hoping to avoid, but that is certainly a realistic situation given his injury and the way the bone looked on the CT scan," Clanton said. "The fact he is having no symptoms gives us reason for optimism."

Yao had a pin inserted in the foot in February 2006 and was ready to play in the Olympics in less than six months, and in 77 regular-season games last season. Clanton, however, said there is concern that a more extreme procedure might be warranted, even though his current injury is considered less severe.

Clanton expected the hairline fracture that ended Yao’s season, his fourth bone injury in the past four seasons, to have healed when Yao returned from China for a CT scan last week.

Instead, it not only healed, but Clanton said it grew worse. He said doctors will also try to determine whether Yao has suffered a loss of blood supply in the area, causing the injury to heal more slowly.

"The hairline fracture that is present in the previous X-rays shows evidence it has not healed and has extended across the bone," Clanton said.

"At this stage he is having no symptoms or physical signs. He has no tenderness, no swelling, no redness. When he came back in, he was feeling like everything was perfect, and he would start rehabilitation and get ready to play. The findings on the CT were shocking for him and for us.

"Sometimes the findings on an X-ray or CT don’t necessarily mean that is exactly what you treat. You don’t treat a CT scan; you treat a patient. We are looking for every reason to teat this on clinical findings, but don’t want to put him at risk for a greater fracture.

"What we are looking at is a discrepancy in the clinical findings on him and what he tells us, and the findings on the diagnostic imaging studies that tell us what the bone looks like."

KSeal
06-29-2009, 07:36 PM
Will Artest resign now?

If Ariza gets a huge offer the Lakers don't want to match Artest will be a Laker next year.

Brazil
06-29-2009, 08:53 PM
That sucks for Houston and for the competition, the rockets had a great team. Sorry folks, I hope houston will stay alive in the west when yao returns

Artest93
06-29-2009, 09:21 PM
Update from Ric Bucher on twitter:

Yao update: Same situation as March '08. Returned for Olympics and best season. Likeliest scenario - surgery, misses part of next season.

http://twitter.com/RicBucher

NewJerSpur
06-29-2009, 09:29 PM
Damn Yao, damn.

DenDen
06-29-2009, 10:03 PM
I'll still root for the rockets, even if they go lottery bound. With that said, San Antonio you got my cheer, take the laker down.

Roxsfan
06-29-2009, 10:05 PM
I'm Yao's biggest fan, I get right on Yao news whenever I can. I get text alerts whenever he gets hurt- good thing I have unlimited texting

fuck you asshole. I will laugh if anything happens to ilshitskaus and Lefuck.

DenDen
06-29-2009, 10:17 PM
fuck you asshole. I will laugh if anything happens to ilshitskaus and Lefuck.
Don't mind him, after next season lefuck is a knick. Cleveland won't have a basketball team anymore, dude most likely hop on the laker bandwagon.

Trainwreck2100
06-29-2009, 10:23 PM
That's what happens when you breed people like cattle china

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-29-2009, 10:25 PM
why do you feel bad for him? He gets the best job in the World now, he gets paid to just hang out. He also can just pick up his option and collect more money next year.

I mean let's be honest, the Rockets weren't going anywhere. Now he just gets to take it easy, pay Chinese Government their cut of his contract, and just hang out. That's nothing to feel sorry for

You fucking idiot. Chinese government gets taxes from his income. Just like US does from every American NBA player. GTFO with your racist bull shit.

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-29-2009, 10:29 PM
I wouldn't buy into this just yet, because it makes no sense. First off he just has a hairline fracture, and why would the Rockets tell " league peers" that their best player is done for the season? This entire article goes against common sense. This will end up being a case of imaginative journalism.

Don;t be stupid. The best Chinese doctors looked at yao and they told the Rockets NOT to do that surgery on him. They warned them it would ruin him. The 2 best Chinese doctors in the world. But the "genius" Rockets GM Morey who is clearly a fucking idiot let some moron doctor from Texas butcher him.

Now these same fucking idiots are blaming this injury on China. Only complete fucking IDIOTS would ever have done that surgery they did on him with that exact injury he had. I swear Americans are decades behind in their medical knowledge.

ginobili's bald spot
06-29-2009, 10:34 PM
Don;t be stupid. The best Chinese doctors looked at yao and they told the Rockets NOT to do that surgery on him. They warned them it would ruin him. The 2 best Chinese doctors in the world. But the "genius" Rockets GM Morey who is clearly a fucking idiot let some moron doctor from Texas butcher him.

Now these same fucking idiots are blaming this injury on China. Only complete fucking IDIOTS would ever have done that surgery they did on him with that exact injury he had. I swear Americans are decades behind in their medical knowledge.

:lol You have GOT to be kidding me. No one could possibly be this stupid.

lefty
06-29-2009, 10:43 PM
And now they're saying his career might be over:wow:depressed



Just wow

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-29-2009, 10:43 PM
:lol You have GOT to be kidding me. No one could possibly be this stupid.

Everyone outside the US knows that America has the worst doctors and medical care in the world. You are a fucking JOKE and laughing stock.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-29-2009, 10:53 PM
Everyone outside the US knows that America has the worst doctors and medical care in the world.

:lmao

Double-Up
06-29-2009, 10:59 PM
Everyone outside the US knows that America has the worst doctors and medical care in the world. You are a fucking JOKE and laughing stock.

I was gonna give you props until I read you're last post, you're one ignorant fuck.

lefty
06-29-2009, 11:00 PM
Now they're saying his career might be over:wow:depressed



Just wow

KSeal
06-29-2009, 11:03 PM
You already posted that comment, douche.

lefty
06-29-2009, 11:03 PM
You already posted that comment, douche.
No I didn't

ginobili's bald spot
06-29-2009, 11:28 PM
Everyone outside the US knows that America has the worst doctors and medical care in the world. You are a fucking JOKE and laughing stock.

Then I guess you and America have something in common because you are the laughing stock of this forum.

sook
06-29-2009, 11:34 PM
No I didn't

:lol

KidCongo
06-29-2009, 11:35 PM
Artest wants to come to Cleveland now.

Killakobe81
06-29-2009, 11:35 PM
This SUX!!! As a b-ball fan Im sad to see this hopefully Oden & Bynum don't suffer teh same fate BIg men are going extinct ...

duncan228
06-29-2009, 11:57 PM
Houston Chronicle updated.

Yao's career in jeopardy (http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/Yaos_career_in_jeopardy.html)
By Jonathan Feigen - Houston Chronicle

HOUSTON — Casting a degree of doubt on Yao Ming's immediate and long-term NBA future, Rockets team physician Tom Clanton on Monday described the extent of the center's foot injury. And with the league's free-agent shopping season set to begin at 11:01 p.m. today, the Rockets will quickly discover how far the shock waves reach.

The fracture in Yao's left foot has worsened and could be severe enough to threaten his entire next season or even his career, depending on the success of potential treatments he could choose, Clanton said.

Less than two weeks ago, Rockets general manager Daryl Morey said the team is committed to building around Yao.

“Yao,” Morey said before the latest test results, “is the cornerstone of our franchise now and in the future.”

Now Morey might have to start rebuilding without him.

Yao, who was hurt during the Western Conference semifinals against the Los Angeles Lakers, is scheduled to visit specialists around the country to choose a course of treatment. He could try a more conservative approach by immobilizing the foot in hopes the hairline fracture in his left tarsal navicular bone will heal on its own, as doctors predicted it would when Yao's season ended May 8. Because Yao has no pain or other symptoms, Clanton said there is reason to be optimistic that approach could work.

But Clanton also revealed Monday that a CT scan showed Yao's injury not only failed to heal as expected but has gotten worse, potentially requiring a surgical remedy.

“At this point, the injury has the potential for him missing this next season and could be career-threatening,” Clanton said. “One of the things we are trying to get is a consensus opinion on that, to make certain there is no option we are overlooking that would provide an earlier return or would be an option for treatment that he would prefer rather than doing additional surgery.”

Yao, Rockets owner Leslie Alexander and Yao's agent, John Huizinga, were unavailable for comment. Morey said he would not discuss the injury or its ramifications until Yao picks a treatment plan and doctors offer a prognosis.

“We are not going to comment until we have all the facts,” Morey said.

The NBA won't wait, however. Teams can begin negotiations with free agents, including Rockets forward Ron Artest, tonight.

Artest considered the Rockets a championship contender when he indicated last month that he hoped to remain with the team. The Rockets could find out quickly if he and other free agents still feel that way. Artest's agent, David Bauman, declined to comment on the impact Yao's injury might have.

The Rockets could be in a position to seek a replacement for Yao. If he is ruled out for all of next season, the team could request a disabled player exception to the salary cap, allowing it to sign a player for the value of the mid-level exception, which was $5.6 million last season.

But that would be an extreme commitment, since it would force the Rockets to pay large penalties under the NBA's luxury tax and offer an expensive deal to a player who would theoretically be a backup when, or if, Yao returns.

The Rockets could face a tough decision even if Yao does return in the 2009-10 campaign. He has two years left on his contract and could opt out after next season. He had been considered a certain maximum-contract player, but the difficulty getting over his latest injury could impact the team's thinking.

Rockets guard Tracy McGrady is attempting a comeback from microfracture knee surgery. He is scheduled to begin on-court workouts in the coming weeks. Until then, the team can't estimate when he may return to competition.

Kai
06-30-2009, 01:45 AM
There's hasn't been any new discoveries or information collected since it was announced that Yao is out indefinitely. I don't know why everyone in the media decided to make this a big deal 2 weeks later.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=bucher_ric&page=yaoming-090629


In the realm of possibilities, the fact that Yao Ming's left foot has made no improvement since he fractured it in May could mean the Rockets center will miss all of next season.

It could also mean he never plays again.

Or that he is limited in training camp but starts the season and has another All-Star campaign. Or misses the first 25 games of the season but leads them to another strong playoff run. Or he misses the first 50 and wins a title.

In short, what he can offer the Rockets next season is a complete unknown. Which, in some ways, is the worst possible scenario for GM Daryl Morey.

As of right now, on the eve of free agency, he doesn't know what Yao's prognosis is. The next course of treatment hasn't even been decided. Yao remains in the U.S., seeking second and third opinions, and will decide how to proceed. According to multiple sources, he could continue having him rest and see if the leg responds. If it does, he still might be ready to play by November. If it doesn't, then he'd probably have it surgically repaired, which would put him in greater jeopardy of missing part or all of the season.

Or he could elect to have a surgical procedure now that would cost him part of the season.

Or he could go with a more aggressive procedure that would put him out now but improve his chances of a complete recovery a year from now.

For those handicapping the possibilities, Yao had surgery for essentially the same injury in March 2008 and returned to play in the Olympics four months later, followed by the best and most successful season of his career.

The quotes in the Houston Chronicle from Dr. Tom Clanton, who discovered Yao's foot hadn't responded to treatment, contains the same information he gave the Rockets last week, a team source said. Sources say the Rockets didn't emphasize in their subsequent release that Yao could miss the season because Clanton didn't emphasize it.

For what it's worth, the Rockets and Yao's representatives are appalled that Clanton went public with the results of his examination. Yao was disappointed the exam showed no progress, but a source says he never contemplated missing all of next season.

The question he's trying to answer right now, a source says, is whether to have surgery and thereby guarantee he'll miss part of the season, or give it more time to heal naturally, leaving open the chance he'll be ready to go in October. The risk is that if it still doesn't respond to rest, he'll then have to have surgery, which would push his return to later in the season than if he had surgery now.

The sticking point for the Rockets is that they have decisions to make right now on re-signing Ron Artest and possibly dealing Tracy McGrady. The league consensus is that Artest can't be the best player on your team, because it empowers him to exercise his most erratic impulses, on and off the court. But if Yao can't play, that's exactly what Artest would be.

The Rockets have openly admitted they have been seeking trade options for McGrady, whose status for next season is unknown after undergoing microfracture surgery on his knee in February. But if there's a decent chance of the worst-case scenario -- Yao's career is over -- then the Rockets have to think about letting McGrady's $23 million deal expire, getting forced-retirement relief from the league on Yao's contract and going after a new superstar.

Of course, if Yao can play next season, then they'd be best served to move McGrady for a veteran scorer who can contribute right now and shoot for a title.

The Rockets understood the realm of possibility's width from the minute Yao walked out of that examination last week. What they didn't know -- and still don't -- are the percentages. Is there a 2 percent chance he doesn't play next season? Ten percent? Fifty?

That's what the second opinions he's seeking over the next few days will determine. For now, the chances of Yao starting the season or not playing at all next season are the least likely outcomes. Having surgery, returning sometime in midseason and continuing his career is the most likely.

None of which makes the Rockets' position over the next 48 hours any easier.

Things don't look good for Yao/the Rockets, but it's not doomsday just yet...

Indazone
06-30-2009, 01:54 AM
Because drama sells newspapers. I don't think Yao's career is over but I do think we are looking at surgery and a very long healing period. Well, that's the way the fortune cookie crumbles.

Chieflion
06-30-2009, 04:34 AM
My condolences to a fellow Chinese in Yao Ming. Hope he gets well soon and for several health issues, not play competitive ball again.

Gervin44Silas13
06-30-2009, 07:02 AM
I think That they brought Yao out to quickly, of all people to train him was Ewing in H town.
Given the load of games he played here and in China it's no wonder his foot hasn't really healed right.
Hey the same can be said for Manu.
But if you don't rest well after a bad injury it takes longer and may get worse.

I feel your pain Rockets fans when D. Robinson was out in 1997.

Gervin44Silas13
06-30-2009, 07:03 AM
Oh yeah Spare me the racist over tones you bloging assholes!!!!

ginobili's bald spot
06-30-2009, 07:32 AM
Oh yeah Spare me the racist over tones you bloging assholes!!!!

Blogging assholes? ROR!

Nation of Domination
06-30-2009, 07:53 AM
I hope the Rockets are done with Yao. I dont care if his career is over or not just as long as he never plays for the Rockets again.

Thunder Dan
06-30-2009, 08:22 AM
how does pointing out that Yao pays a large portion of his NBA salary to communist China make me a racist? I guess you would also call me a racist for pointing out that the government Yao pays to, supports genocide in Darfur. That would be like letting a Nazi play on the Rockets during the Holocaust and when some Patriot points out that it's wrong, all the Rockets fans jump on him for being a racist.

You all can look it up (unless you are in mainland China otherwise they government blocked out the sites). Why do you think people were protesting the Olympics last year? It's not because people hate Asains, it's because of the shady shit their government has their hands in and if we didn't owe those fuckers so much money the USA would have never participated in those games to begin with.


**and before you slag on me about having Chinese owners, check your facts, they are from Hong Kong which is a big difference. They aren't commies and they don't help fund the killing of innocent Africans

BlackSwordsMan
06-30-2009, 08:27 AM
Everyone outside the US knows that America has the worst doctors and medical care in the world. You are a fucking JOKE and laughing stock.

dude you live in america
gtfo

Extra Stout
06-30-2009, 08:38 AM
**and before you slag on me about having Chinese owners, check your facts, they are from Hong Kong which is a big difference. They aren't commies and they don't help fund the killing of innocent Africans
Hong Kong has been part of the People's Republic of China since 1997, so yes they are commies, yes they are funding the killing of innocent Africans, and yes, in order to remain morally consistent you have to renounce your allegiance to the Cavaliers immeidately.

Thunder Dan
06-30-2009, 08:42 AM
Hong Kong has been part of the People's Republic of China since 1997, so yes they are commies, yes they are funding the killing of innocent Africans, and yes, in order to remain morally consistent you have to renounce your allegiance to the Cavaliers immeidately.

Hong Kong is part of the Special Administrative Region of China, much different than mainland China. Hong Kong even has their own currency and political system which is a democracy and not a communist rule

Extra Stout
06-30-2009, 08:46 AM
Everyone outside the US knows that America has the worst doctors and medical care in the world. You are a fucking JOKE and laughing stock.
Yes, everyone knows this. This is why wealthy people from all over the world fly into my city to be treated, because they want to experience this worst medical care for themselves.

We have the worst insurance system in the world, not the worst care. The care is state-of-the-art. I know firsthand.

Extra Stout
06-30-2009, 08:50 AM
Hong Kong is part of the Special Administrative Region of China, much different than mainland China. Hong Kong even has their own currency and political system which is a democracy and not a communist rule
That's nice. It's still part of the PRC, still answers to the commies, and still submits to PRC foreign policy, which includes funding the killing of innocent Africans.

You can't be a Cavs fan anymore. Sorry.

Thunder Dan
06-30-2009, 09:00 AM
That's nice. It's still part of the PRC, still answers to the commies, and still submits to PRC foreign policy, which includes funding the killing of innocent Africans.

You can't be a Cavs fan anymore. Sorry.

you are wrong, sorry. They have a capitalistic economy.

DrHouse
06-30-2009, 09:55 AM
I'm surprised Thunder Dan still has the balls to show up here after the Cavs embarrassed themselves in the ECF. Hell I'm surprised you haven't slit your wrists by now.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-30-2009, 10:53 AM
fuck you asshole. I will laugh if anything happens to ilshitskaus and Lefuck.

Ilgauskas getting injured would help Cleveland. You should pray he stays healthy so fatass Brown continues to play him 30 minutes a game.

Indazone
06-30-2009, 11:12 AM
Yay! New blood for the Rockets Medical Staff


http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/spo...ng_sports_teams

Dr. Clanton Leaving Houston Sports Teams

Updated: Thursday, 30 Apr 2009, 10:11 PM CDT
Published : Thursday, 30 Apr 2009, 4:59 PM CDT

MARK BERMAN
HOUSTON - DR. Tom Clanton, a team physician for the Houston Rockets, Houston Texans, and Rice University, is leaving his practice in July and will join the Steadman-Hawkins Clinic in Vail, Colorado. Clanton is taking over the sports medicine foot and ankle section at Steadman-Hawkins.

"It's been a sea of emotion," Clanton said in an interview with FOX 26 Sports Thursday. "I've been considering an offer from Steadman-Hawkins for two years."

Clanton points out his decision is as much about family as it is about business. He has two daughters who live in the Vail, Colorado area.

"I've had great associations with the other team physicians that I have worked with," Clanton said. "We have an incredible medical community that makes it hard to leave, but the family situation that I am going to as well as the chance to work in a world class medical clinic is something that I can't pass up."

Clanton has been the team physician for Rice since 1982. He has been one of the Texans' doctors since their inception in 2002 and he has worked with the Rockets for five years.

"(Rockets Vice-President of Basketball Operations and trainer) Keith Jones and I talked about me maintaining a relationship with the Rockets," Clanton said. "I plan to continue as a consultant with them as long as they want me."

And Clanton believes he is leaving Rice in good shape.

"I played football at Rice and I have always enjoyed my association with Rice as their team physician," Clanton said. "I'm leaving that situation in good hands with Dr. Leland Winston who also played football at Rice.

"My wife and I look forward to babysitting the grandchildren, teaching them to flyfish, and looking at the mountains."

Clanton is currently the chief of orthopedic Services at Memorial Hermann Hospital. He is also the co-medical director of The Sports Medicine Institute at Memorial Hermann along with Dr. Walter Lowe and Dr. Mark Addickes. This is the institute formerly named after Roger Clemens.

Clanton also serves as the interim-chair of the department of orthopedic surgery at the University of Texas Medical School at Houston.

He was the chairman of that department for nine years before stepping down to take on the dutites associated with the The Sports Medicine Institute. He was asked again in December to head UT's medical school on an interim-basis.

Artest93
06-30-2009, 11:12 AM
just heard on sportsradio 610 in houston that the reason that the fracture hasnt healed right may be because Yao removed the boot while in China......g'dmn it!!!

Indazone
06-30-2009, 11:16 AM
Well in that case, the bone fracture will heal on it's own. Just a longer recovery time. Yao has to keep the boot on. It's not like it cracked more on its own. Which is what I was wondering cause there are pictures of Yao in China Walking all over the place in dress shoes.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-30-2009, 11:18 AM
just heard on sportsradio 610 in houston that the reason that the fracture hasnt healed right may be because Yao removed the boot while in China......g'dmn it!!!

I'm amazed Houston fans still put up with this crap.

Artest93
06-30-2009, 11:22 AM
Well in that case, the bone fracture will heal on it's own. Just a longer recovery time. Yao has to keep the boot on. It's not like it cracked more on its own. Which is what I was wondering cause there are pictures of Yao in China Walking all over the place in dress shoes.

They are gonna have to put a cast on it

Indazone
06-30-2009, 12:48 PM
They are gonna have to put a cast on it

It's ok, cause this forces the Rockets into rebuild mode like the Spurs had to do when Robinson went out. Morey will build this team as if Yao were not coming back and we'll go out and get some premier center. Either way it's ok with me. T-Mac will get traded and we'll upgrade our guards. When Yao comes back, this team is going to be incredible. Just take one more year than what we expected to put the juggernaut together.

lefty
06-30-2009, 12:50 PM
NBA 2k9 jinxed Yao.

Yao is like an unbreakable God in that game

Indazone
06-30-2009, 03:12 PM
When you try your best, but you don't succeed
When you get what you want, but not what you need
When you feel so tired, but you can't sleep
Stuck in reverse
And the tears come streaming down your face
When you lose something you can't replace
When you love someone but it goes to waste
Could it be worse?
- “Fix You”, Coldplay

Thunder Dan
06-30-2009, 03:21 PM
I'm surprised Thunder Dan still has the balls to show up here after the Cavs embarrassed themselves in the ECF. Hell I'm surprised you haven't slit your wrists by now.

losing in the ECF is nothing to slit your wrists about after I've lived through much worse


And Hong Kong is as much apart of the Peoples Republic of China as Canada is part of the United States.

Thunder Dan
06-30-2009, 03:22 PM
When you try your best, but you don't succeed
When you get what you want, but not what you need
When you feel so tired, but you can't sleep
Stuck in reverse
And the tears come streaming down your face
When you lose something you can't replace
When you love someone but it goes to waste
Could it be worse?
- “Fix You”, Coldplay

:rollin:rollin

Coldplay lyrics? really? You want me to just hire a hot guy to fuck you in the ass and you can post pictures of it on here?

DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-30-2009, 03:23 PM
^:lmao

DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-30-2009, 03:24 PM
I still don't get why Houston fans don't have one iota of resent towards Yao for taking his boot off and causing this.

Extra Stout
06-30-2009, 03:27 PM
you are wrong, sorry. They have a capitalistic economy.
1) Parts of India are outright Marxist, but they're still part of India.

2) China has undergone widespread capitalist market reforms since 1978, which is why their economy is not a total failure like the USSR's was.

So anyway, getting back to the point, by rooting for the Cavs you might as well be shooting the African orphans yourself, you monster.

sook
06-30-2009, 04:43 PM
I still don't get why Houston fans don't have one iota of resent towards Yao for taking his boot off and causing this.

They're all fucking minions, you should see it on clutch, during the reg season they would post threads of Yao's possible success on other teams and would call themselves Yao-Only-Fans.

He can do no wrong in their eys though..

redzero
06-30-2009, 04:46 PM
They're all fucking minions, you should see it on clutch, during the reg season they would post threads of Yao's possible success on other teams and would call themselves Yao-Only-Fans.

He can do no wrong in their eys though..

You know those are just Chinese people obsessing over their great NBA god.

Remember when that Chinese guy couldn't race in the Olympics last year? Everybody in China was about to commit suicide.

sook
06-30-2009, 04:50 PM
You know those are just Chinese people obsessing over their great NBA god.

Remember when that Chinese guy couldn't race in the Olympics last year? Everybody in China was about to commit suicide.

exactly, but when 75% of a board turns into them, it is unreadable.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-30-2009, 05:41 PM
The international Asian message board posters suck a lot. They generally have horrible English, generally know nothing about basketball, and they're generally posting cause there's a certain player on the team that they like and all they do is jerk off to that player and ignore the fact there's actually a team.

duncan228
06-30-2009, 05:43 PM
Rockets still mum on Yao news (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=txfalteringrockets&prov=st&type=lgns)
Chris Duncan

On the eve of the NBA draft, Houston Rockets general manager Daryl Morey said that the franchise was still determined to build around All-Star center Yao Ming.

“He’s the cornerstone of the team,” Morey said.

A few days later, the future of the team and the All-Star center from China have suddenly been thrown into question amid ominous reports from the team doctor that the hairline fracture in Yao’s left foot could not only possibly keep him out all of next season, but potentially end his career.

That would not only be devastating news for the Rockets, but a crippling blow to the NBA, which would lose one of its most influential international ambassadors.

On Tuesday, the league was still holding out hope that Yao would play again.

“I think it’s awfully premature for us to comment on that,” league spokesman Tim Frank said. “Let’s see how this works out first.”

Morey said Monday he would not comment on the reports about Yao “until we have all the facts.” A team spokesman said Tuesday that nothing was definitive and that Yao and his representatives were seeking other medical opinions this week.

The Rockets already know that Tracy McGrady could be out until next February after undergoing risky microfracture surgery on his left knee. Morey also has to decide what to do with Ron Artest, who becomes a free agent after making over $7 million in a productive first season in Houston. Artest said after the season that he wanted to come back - but that was when he believed the Rockets could compete for the Western Conference title.

Releasing McGrady and Artest could save the Rockets money, but probably cost them a season. It would also mark a disappointing end to the star-crossed pairing of Yao and McGrady.

The two have only played together in 220 games across five seasons. Together, they’ve missed 204 games to injuries and illnesses since McGrady joined the team in June 2004.

Yao and McGrady have played in 10 All-Star games as Rockets, but they’ve never led Houston out of the first round of the playoffs together. McGrady watched from the sidelines as Houston beat Portland in the first round last season, the Rockets’ first series victory since 1997.

Yao was injured in Game 3 of the second-round series with the Los Angeles Lakers, and Houston pushed the eventual NBA champions to seven games. But the scrappiness the Rockets showed won’t be enough to carry them through a whole season without a superstar.

That leaves Morey with difficult - and far-reaching - decisions to make this summer.

Yao is due to make over $16 million next season, with a player option for 2010-11 that would pay him over $17 million. McGrady will make over $22 million next season, the last year of his contract.

Before the draft, Morey said teams have made “very aggressive” offers for McGrady. They’re probably more interested in McGrady’s expiring contract than what he could provide on the court, but either way, Morey hasn’t seen a deal he likes.

“We are getting a lot of interest on Tracy and I do have to listen,” Morey said. “It’s my job to make this team as ready to win the title as possible.”

But how realistic is that if Yao is sidelined for the season or longer?

Morey said last Friday that the uncertainty surrounding Yao had not changed his offseason strategy for trades. That was before team doctor Tom Clanton told the Houston Chronicle that Yao’s injury could threaten his career.

If Yao is out for the season, the Rockets could apply for an injured player exception and use that money toward signing a free agent, said Frank, the NBA spokesman. It would amount to the value of the midlevel exception, equal to 108 percent of the average player salary from last season (about $5.6 million).

Some of the unrestricted free agent big men available this summer, if the Rockets won’t have Yao, include Chris Andersen, Brandon Bass, Rasheed Wallace, Antonio McDyess, Chris Mihm, Francisco Elson, Jamaal Magliore and Drew Gooden.

A doctor approved by the NBA would have to declare Yao out for the season before Houston would get the exception. And the Rockets would not be able to combine the two exceptions to make an $11 million offer to one player.

The absence of Yao would have a major impact far beyond Houston.

Rockets games routinely draw television audiences between 20 and 30 million in China, said Marc Ganis, the president of the Chicago-based sports consulting firm SportsCorp Ltd., which has partners in China.

The NBA became the first American sports league to host games in China in 2004, when Yao’s Rockets played Sacramento in Beijing and Shanghai. The league opened offices in China in January 2008, and NBA games and programming are available on 51 television and digital outlets there.

Ganis says the NBA would’ve eventually developed a strong presence in China, but Yao accelerated the process by a decade or more. Yao adorns larger-than-life billboards, stars in commercials and even provided the voice for a character in a Chinese-language animated movie after the Rockets’ season.

“His emergence as a rock star allowed the NBA to get on his broad shoulders and be carried to a much higher level of popularity than it would’ve been,” Ganis said. “His value to the league has been almost incalculable.”

Even if Yao never plays another NBA game, Ganis said his international impact is permanent.

NBA merchandise is sold in 30,000 retail stores in China. Kobe Bryant has had the top-selling NBA jersey in China for two straight seasons. Yao ranks 10th, but only because most Chinese fans already have them.

“It’s inevitable that one day, he will no longer be playing in the NBA, but that could be a decade down the road,” Ganis said. “But I would expect Yao to be an ambassador for the NBA in Asia and I would expect him to be a significant contributor for the development of basketball in China.”

For now, all China, the Rockets and everyone else can do is wait to see if he plays in the league again.

BlackBellamy
06-30-2009, 05:51 PM
The Rockets legacy of the past decade = Shakespearean comic tragedy.

Artest93
06-30-2009, 06:01 PM
The Rockets legacy of the past decade = Shakespearean comic tragedy.

Like the Mavs entire history?

BlackBellamy
06-30-2009, 06:06 PM
Like the Mavs entire history?
Sure.

#1 Timmys Fan
06-30-2009, 06:23 PM
The international Asian message board posters suck a lot. They generally have horrible English, generally know nothing about basketball, and they're generally posting cause there's a certain player on the team that they like and all they do is jerk off to that player and ignore the fact there's actually a team.


Fucks you sir.

redzero
06-30-2009, 06:30 PM
Fucks you sir.

http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/c/c6/YOU_MAD.jpg

What's up, Chinese Spurs fan?

ginobili's bald spot
06-30-2009, 06:41 PM
:rollin:rollin

Coldplay lyrics? really? You want me to just hire a hot guy to fuck you in the ass and you can post pictures of it on here?


:lol

DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-30-2009, 06:48 PM
lol coldplay

Spurtacus
06-30-2009, 07:04 PM
I really feel sorry for Yao. He's a good guy and I would hate for his career to end like this.

Fucking China. Putting more pressure on this guy to play for them just to save themselves some embarassment.

redzero
06-30-2009, 07:04 PM
Might as well listen to the real Radiohead, instead of Radiohead-lite... mixed with gay.

Thunder Dan
06-30-2009, 10:03 PM
Might as well listen to the real Radiohead, instead of Radiohead-lite... mixed with gay.

don't you ever compare Coldplay to Radiohead

Indazone
06-30-2009, 11:00 PM
don't you ever compare Coldplay to Radiohead

It's ok Thunderdan, most of us don't give a shit about Coldplay or Radiohead. But in terms of cockmeat sandwiches you really know your stuff. Make that double stuff.

dirk4mvp
06-30-2009, 11:05 PM
lol coldplay

lol clocks

lol that would be a rocketfan's favorite band



Like the Mavs entire history?


lol 40 point beatdown

lol getting owned by Darrell Armstrong

dirk4mvp
06-30-2009, 11:06 PM
NBA 2k9 jinxed Yao.

Yao is like an unbreakable God in that game

Not really, his stamina is usually down 2 bars after the first quarter.