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sook
06-29-2009, 03:44 PM
Before i get flamed just hear me out people.....




What I'm trying to say is that this finally gives us time to move on, when this happened 4 yrs ago and if the rockets decided to take action, we would probably be a pretty developed team by now.

The organization had this pseudo vision of a championship team built around an injury prone star. They continued to build around him, only find that the parts for their mustang won't work when their mustang gets totaled.

Tbh, people had to wake up sooner or later and realize what I have been saying all along.

Indazone
06-29-2009, 03:47 PM
Before i get flamed just hear me out people.....




What I'm trying to say is that this finally gives us time to move on, when this happened 4 yrs ago and if the rockets decided to take action, we would probably be a pretty developed team by now.

The organization had this pseudo vision of a championship team built around an injury prone star. They continued to build around him, only find that the parts for their mustang won't work when their mustang gets totaled.

Tbh, people had to wake up sooner or later and realize what I have been saying all along.

Right, I agree with you 100%. WE HAVE TO TRADE T-MAC FOR ANYTHING WE CAN GET. Fool is never healthy

sook
06-29-2009, 03:48 PM
Thnx indazone, and this is a medical opinion


nonunion fracture - it's not something you ever want to hear. Permanent break along the line that's not healing, nor will it. Even if they surgically intervene, given that this is already a rebreak, chances are slim that the bone will ever be as strong as it was originally.

Add that to the fact that Yao's frame is already too much for human bone to withstand in a contact sport....

It's how it was always going to end with Yao. It's just a matter of when he ends up taking a medical retirement. (I'm not saying he will have to because of this particular injury...yet)

I wish him the best. I want him to retire a Rocket, no matter what. He's on the short list of players (past or present) I'm genuinely proud to say I get to cheer for.

The Yao-McGrady era wasn't going to garner a championship, especially not after McGrady put himself above the team last year.

My vote is for a tear down and rebuild through the draft. You don't trade for a new franchise player if you want to win - you draft him. I want no part of phony stars like Zach Randolph, Baron Davis, Amare Stoudemire. Cancers don't lead.

Tcan21
06-29-2009, 03:49 PM
Well this will be an interesting offseason for the Rockets if this injury to Yao turns out to be as bad as its being reported. If Artest bolts, do they keep shopping TMac? Do they go into rebuild mode and go ahead a trade Battier as well, or do they buy their time till Yao gets back?

sook
06-29-2009, 03:50 PM
We hit the lottery and jump on to whatever bandwagon we can find!

SA is looking good right about now

Red Hawk #21
06-29-2009, 03:50 PM
I feel for you Rox fans, I really do. Buena Suerte in the future.

Indazone
06-29-2009, 03:51 PM
Yao's fracture will heal, give it time. If you think about it, Yao probably played most of the season with that stress fracture. They only ran the bone scan after he injured it worse in the playoffs.

sook
06-29-2009, 03:52 PM
i'm not willing to put our team's future in his hands any more....best he stay away.

The lottery beats the hell out of a 1st round exit :)

DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-29-2009, 03:55 PM
Yao's fracture will heal, give it time. If you think about it, Yao probably played most of the season with that stress fracture. They only ran the bone scan after he injured it worse in the playoffs.


Sook is right, how many seasons are you willing to watch your team depend on and get screwed over by Yao Ming's health before you realize that Yao Ming can't be relied on.

The definition of insanity is seeing something re-occur and expecting it to change for no reason, and that's exactly what you're doing.

Indazone
06-29-2009, 03:55 PM
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bk/bkn/6503064.html

Rockets center Yao Ming’s left foot injury could be severe enough to be season ending or even career-threatening depending on the success of potential treatments chosen, Rockets team physician Tom Clanton said Monday.

"At this point, the injury has the potential for him missing this next season and could be career threatening," Clanton said. "One of the things we are trying to get is a consensus opinion on that, to make certain there is no option we are overlooking that would provide an earlier return or would be an option for treatment that he would prefer rather than doing additional surgery."

Clanton, responding to a story on Yahoo Sports that reported that the Rockets and Yao representatives are concerned Yao will never play again, said that Yao could choose to try again to immobilize the foot in the hopes that the hairline fracture of the tarsal navicular bone would heal on its own, as several of his previous bone injuries have and doctors expected this time.
"We are not going to comment," Rockets general manager Daryl Morey said, "until we have all the facts."

Yao is scheduled to meet with several specialists to consider a wide variety of options. Clanton declined to say what option he expects to recommend.
Because Yao is entirely asymptomatic, there remains a hope that additional time in a boot or cast could allow the bone to heal on its own.

"I don’t think that is necessarily a longshot," Clanton said. "It takes a lot of time.

It may be best to take more time (immobilizing the foot). Sometimes that is the best option."

The surgical treatment options could include placing a pin inside the foot, a bone graft or even realigning the foot to operate differently. Cleveland Cavaliers center Zydrunas Ilgauskas underwent similar procedures, reducing his high arch to a flatter foot position, an option that could be considered for Yao, Clanton said, though his arch is not as high as Ilgauskas’ was.

"It’s more that’s what we’re hoping to avoid, but that is certainly a realistic situation given his injury and the way the bone looked on the CT scan," Clanton said. "The fact he is having no symptoms gives us reason for optimism."

Yao had a pin inserted in the foot in February 2006 and was ready to play in the Olympics in less than six months, and in 77 regular-season games last season. Clanton, however, said there is concern that a more extreme procedure might be warranted, even though his current injury is considered less severe.

Clanton expected the hairline fracture that ended Yao’s season, his fourth bone injury in the past four seasons, to have healed when Yao returned from China for a CT scan last week.

Instead, it not only healed, but Clanton said it grew worse. He said doctors will also try to determine whether Yao has suffered a loss of blood supply in the area, causing the injury to heal more slowly.

"The hairline fracture that is present in the previous X-rays shows evidence it has not healed and has extended across the bone," Clanton said.
"At this stage he is having no symptoms or physical signs. He has no tenderness, no swelling, no redness. When he came back in, he was feeling like everything was perfect, and he would start rehabilitation and get ready to play. The findings on the CT were shocking for him and for us.

"Sometimes the findings on an X-ray or CT don’t necessarily mean that is exactly what you treat. You don’t treat a CT scan; you treat a patient. We are looking for every reason to teat this on clinical findings, but don’t want to put him at risk for a greater fracture.

"What we are looking at is a discrepancy in the clinical findings on him and what he tells us, and the findings on the diagnostic imaging studies that tell us what the bone looks like."

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Indazone
06-29-2009, 03:56 PM
Interesting that the crack got even bigger after the season was over. I think he's got to go on some bone healing drugs and put that boot back on with the electrical stimulation to heal the bone.

I'm going to stay optimistic but at the same time prepare for the worst.

Indazone
06-29-2009, 03:59 PM
However, no matter what happens, we should try to make a big trade right now or completely tank the season and get another big man who can play. 7'6" from that graph I put up looks like he can play about 75% of a year before another fracture. He has to used like Bill Walton in a platoon role or coming off the bench.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-29-2009, 04:00 PM
I'm going to stay optimistic but at the same time prepare for the worst.

Optimism doesn't win championships.

sook
06-29-2009, 04:01 PM
What I don't understand is what the organization thought they were going to lose during the constand first round exits, they didn't break it up then even though that is rock bottom, losing in the 1st round is worse than not making the playoffs.


Darryl Morey is a smart guy, hopefully he will make the right moveis.

Indazone
06-29-2009, 04:02 PM
Yao would be ok playing 20-25 min a game and splitting time with somone like Stoudamire.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-29-2009, 04:03 PM
Yao would be ok playing 20-25 min a game and splitting time with somone like Stoudamire.

Damon Stoudamire doesn't play center.

Tcan21
06-29-2009, 04:03 PM
Hopefully, whether its this season or the following, Yao comes back and is able to be the same player as he was before. He is a class act and easy player to root for.

sook
06-29-2009, 04:05 PM
Yao would be ok playing 20-25 min a game and splitting time with somone like Stoudamire.

Thats fucking stupid. We wouldn't reap any of his benefits with him playing so little. A 6th man might be ideal but what you have to understand is that he was only playing around 30mpg, i can guarantee you that even if you take his mpg down to 15 he would still get injured.

They have monitored him closely for so long. Yao is done playing B-ball forever, he can go help that shitty Chinese team since they think they are so good.

JamStone
06-29-2009, 04:17 PM
What's with the obsession to need to correct the one letter misspelling of Stoudemire/Stoudamire? You know who they're talking about.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-29-2009, 04:18 PM
What's with the obsession to need to correct the one letter misspelling of Stoudemire/Stoudamire? You know who they're talking about.

Idk it's like the Elliott pet peeve of Kori and Timvp.

The Franchise
06-29-2009, 05:25 PM
Optimism doesn't win championships.

Neither do the Suns. :toast

Spursmania
06-29-2009, 05:40 PM
Heard any news on any teams wanting T-Mac?

DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-29-2009, 05:43 PM
Neither do the Suns. :toast


Their lack of championships largely due to optimism.