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Russ
07-01-2009, 08:26 PM
The Spurs chances of getting Camby just took a hit if this is true -- the Clippers trade Zach Randolph to get Quentin Richardson back.

Word had been that the Clippers liked Randolph best of the bigs and would try to trade Kaman (but he has an untradeable contract) or maybe, reluctantly, Camby. :depressed

http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/clippers/la-sp-clippers-randolph2-2009jul02,0,6212179.story?track=rss

benefactor
07-01-2009, 08:44 PM
Meh. Camby was probably out of reach anyway.

BillMc
07-01-2009, 08:46 PM
Yeah, I was hoping for Camby too. Damn.

EricB
07-01-2009, 08:47 PM
God the Grizzlies are a mess...

coyotes_geek
07-01-2009, 08:49 PM
Good. The grizzlies will continue to suck. Between OJ Mayo and Zach Randolph jacking up shots Rudy Gay will be lucky to get 10 shots a night. Lots of rebounding opportunities for Thabeet though........

Slinkyman
07-01-2009, 08:51 PM
How long until Randolph is on the Lakers? Walton for Randolph straight up sounds right.

picnroll
07-01-2009, 08:52 PM
Not getting Camby is a plus.

Dro210
07-01-2009, 08:52 PM
Wow... seriously Memphis? How you gonna develop young players with that guy on the team??????

BillMc
07-01-2009, 08:53 PM
How long until Randolph is on the Lakers? Walton for Randolph straight up sounds right.

Or maybe Morrison for Randolph. After all they got Pau for Kwame Brown.

Bad Michael Jordran Draft Picks + Grizzlies GM = Lakers All-Stars.

coyotes_geek
07-01-2009, 08:54 PM
How long until Randolph is on the Lakers? Walton for Randolph straight up sounds right.

Randolph is a cancer. I am decidely pro-Randolph to the lakers.

urunobili
07-01-2009, 09:00 PM
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130240

4RINGS
07-01-2009, 09:01 PM
Updated: July 1, 2009, 9:55 PM ET
Sources: Clips trade Randolph


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The Los Angeles Clippers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=lac) opened a starting position for No. 1 pick Blake Griffin on Wednesday.

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Power forward Zach Randolph (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=1017) was traded to the Memphis Grizzlies (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=mem) for swingman Quentin Richardson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=703), sources told ESPN.com's Chad Ford. The deal was first reported by the Los Angeles Times.
The trade can't be finalized until the league establish the salary cap July 8 and lifts the moratorium on player movement.
The Clippers acquired Randolph from the Knicks last November to fill the void left by Elton Brand (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=91) signing with the Sixers. Randolph averaged 20.9 points and 9.4 rebounds per contest in 39 games for Los Angeles. A knee injury cost him time, however, and the Clippers limped to the worst record in the league.
On draft night, the Knicks traded Richardson to the Grizzlies for center Darko Milicic (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=2171). Richardson won't play a game for Memphis. The nine-year veteran averaged 10.2 points and 4.4 rebounds last season. He now returns to the team that drafted him in the first round of the 2000 draft.

Spursfan092120
07-01-2009, 09:06 PM
Shit...congrats to Dunleavy..he just turned into a fan favorite all of a sudden...turning Randolph's shitty contract into an expiring contract.

Tully365
07-01-2009, 09:09 PM
Poor Clippers, poor Grizzlies...

It's like two catfish at the bottom of the tank trading marbles.

Baseline
07-01-2009, 09:18 PM
The two salaries aren't even close.

What's the rest of the story?

exstatic
07-01-2009, 09:21 PM
God the Grizzlies are a mess...

There are at least two proven NBA owners (and probably more) who are only interested in putting the minimum product on the floor and raking in the TV money: Heisley of the Grizz and Sterling of the Clips.

baseline bum
07-01-2009, 09:40 PM
The two salaries aren't even close.

What's the rest of the story?

Memphis has enormous capspace to absorb the difference. Chris Wallace is a stupid, stupid bastard.

rayray2k8
07-01-2009, 09:41 PM
You actually thought the spurs were gonna get camby?? :lmao

Tully365
07-01-2009, 09:44 PM
damn. I was hoping that you meant anthony randolph. I would love to have that guy.

Edit: And yes i know that randolph is on the warriors, i just saw trade and randolph and skipped the clippers part.

+1

baseline bum
07-01-2009, 09:45 PM
There are at least two proven NBA owners (and probably more) who are only interested in putting the minimum product on the floor and raking in the TV money: Heisley of the Grizz and Sterling of the Clips.

Sterling just positioned himself to have max money to throw at LeBron in addition to another $6-$7 million to sign a supporting player in 2010 in addition to whatever lottery pick they get. Sterling's cheap, but even he would have to see the enormous money he could pull with James (or Wade) there. He could charge Laker prices and have every seat and luxury box sold with that team, and pull Lakers profits.

Baseline
07-01-2009, 10:35 PM
Sterling just positioned himself to have max money to throw at LeBron in addition to another $6-$7 million to sign a supporting player in 2010 in addition to whatever lottery pick they get. Sterling's cheap, but even he would have to see the enormous money he could pull with James (or Wade) there. He could charge Laker prices and have every seat and luxury box sold with that team, and pull Lakers profits.

That's a very good point. LA fans are fickle, especially Laker fans, who are morons on top of being fickle.

So if the Clippers start winning and bring in a real superstar like LeBron or Wade, fans will flock to see them. I don't consider Baron Davis a real superstar, nor does he play like one consistently.

But with the pieces the Clips have right now, they could conceivably be in position to make some noise in the West in two years. That is if they bring in another coach. I like Dunleavy as a person, and maybe as a GM, but he can't get those guys to play hard. Plus, they seem to get injured way more than other teams' players, so I've always thought that Sterling goes cheap on the training staff as well. Weird franchise.

I've sat behind the bench at Clips games a few times, and players routinely turn around and talk to Penny Marshall during the game. Tim Thomas made it a point during a loss to the Rockets to let Penny know that he really liked the cookies she brought the previous game. Just weird. The Clips are like your local hgih school team who hasn't had a winning season in 10-15 years. Everybody likes them, but kind of it a pity way, like they feel sorry for them.

lurker23
07-01-2009, 11:27 PM
Why in the world would you take Zach Randolph's contract?

There better be some ridiculous draft picks involved.

Even then it's probably still a stupid, stupid trade.

lurker23
07-01-2009, 11:30 PM
I would expect this to be:

Clippers get:
Quentin Richardson

Grizzlies get:
Zach Randolph
2010 first round pick
2012 first round pick
a future second round pick
max cash considerations


Even then, I'm not sure I like it if I'm a Grizzlies fan.

lurker23
07-01-2009, 11:38 PM
Not so much. You have outside scorers in Gay and Mayo, and you have a defender in Thabeet, but who is going to be the go to guy in the low post? Gasol is alright, but not a 20-10 guy. And Memphis is the one team who can take the risk with Randolph as his contract expires the same time as Mayo.

I agree that the Clippers get the better end of the deal contract wise, but Z-Bo is still a solid player, and his jail blazer days were a few years ago. Some Knicks were sad to see him go until they realized that they had a better shot at LeBron with him gone.

Yeah, but do you realize the financial favor that the Grizzlies just did for the Clippers?

Quentin Richardson: 1 year, $8,700,000

Zach Randolph: $16,000,000 in 2009/10, $17,333,333 in 2010/11

The closest trade to this financially in recent memory:

Phoenix Suns trade Kurt Thomas and first-round draft choices in 2008 and 2010 to the Seattle SuperSonics for a second-round draft choice and an $8 million trade exception.

MaNu4Tres
07-01-2009, 11:51 PM
So the grizzlies cleared cap space by trading Paul Gasol for kwame brown and peanuts. To then fill in that cap space by adding the worst contract in the NBA a year and a half later by getting Zach Randolph???


Wow Chris Wallace...Just WOW

BG_Spurs_Fan
07-01-2009, 11:51 PM
Cue Laker fans saying how great the Grizz have been able to develop after the Gasol trade and how the cap space enabled them to acquire the great player that Randolph is. Poor Grizz.

lurker23
07-02-2009, 12:04 AM
I would expect this to be:

Clippers get:
Quentin Richardson

Grizzlies get:
Zach Randolph
2010 first round pick
2012 first round pick
a future second round pick
max cash considerations


Even then, I'm not sure I like it if I'm a Grizzlies fan.

The more I think about it, if this is what the trade ends up becoming, I understand the Grizzlies point of view. You deal with the mess that is Zach Randolph and his contract for two years (maybe 1.5, if you can find a suitor for his expiring contract in February 2011), and you have the potential to get two lottery picks.

The Grizzlies need as many good draft picks as they can get their hands on; let's face it, no big name free agent is currently going to come to Memphis, no matter how much cap space you free up.

TDMVPDPOY
07-02-2009, 12:20 AM
i knew that trade with the lakers was rigged

werent willing to absorb gasols contract, but will take on zbo contract, which is probably the same as gasols...fkn lame indeed.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
07-02-2009, 12:25 AM
I'm awed that now three teams were able to get themselves out from under Z-Bo's contract and find a team that didn't notice the fact Z-Bo has never been on a good team, and didn't notice the fact every team he's been on was willing to trade him for nothing after dealing with him for a year.

montgod
07-02-2009, 01:22 AM
So... I wonder if M. Gasol could be plan C for the Spurs :) I mean, I would assume Thabeet and Randolph would be the starters. Hmm...

kobyz
07-02-2009, 02:46 AM
so the Grizzlies don't wanted to pay to Gasol but they want to pay to Randolph?

lurker23
07-02-2009, 02:50 AM
so the Grizzlies don't wanted to pay to Gasol but they want to pay to Randolph?

Almost identical salaries too.

Gasol: $16,452,000 in 2009/10, $17,823,000 in 2010/11

Randolph: $16,000,000 in 2009/10, $17,333,333 in 2010/11

:td

lurker23
07-02-2009, 02:59 AM
Man, if I had the money, I'd buy the Grizzlies, fire everyone in that front office, and move the team to Seattle. I'd be an absolute hero in NBA circles.

024
07-02-2009, 03:08 AM
Almost identical salaries too.

Gasol: $16,452,000 in 2009/10, $17,823,000 in 2010/11

Randolph: $16,000,000 in 2009/10, $17,333,333 in 2010/11

:td
that's some funny shit right there. wtf is wrong with the grizzlies? they are giving the cilppers management a run for their money for worst managed team.

baseline bum
07-02-2009, 03:18 AM
that's some funny shit right there. wtf is wrong with the grizzlies? they are giving the cilppers management a run for their money for worst managed team.

The Grizzlies are giving the 80s Cavs a run for their money for worst managed team ever.

BG_Spurs_Fan
07-02-2009, 03:21 AM
that's some funny shit right there. wtf is wrong with the grizzlies? they are giving the cilppers management a run for their money for worst managed team.

I think with this move they've undoubtedly dethroned the Clippers.

Bruno
07-02-2009, 03:53 AM
Grizzlies are an horrible franchise.

mountainballer
07-02-2009, 04:45 AM
agree. absolutely pathetic.
Chris Wallace is as bad as a GM than any GM in history. Isiah included.
(remember, this is the same guy, who once traded Joe Johnson plus a 1st round pick for Tony Delk)

KSeal
07-02-2009, 05:24 AM
Almost identical salaries too.

Gasol: $16,452,000 in 2009/10, $17,823,000 in 2010/11

Randolph: $16,000,000 in 2009/10, $17,333,333 in 2010/11

:td

:lmao Chris Wallace is so fucking stupid!