Mavs make offer to Gortat

[sribb43]

http://mavsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/07/gortat-update.html


We're now hearing that the Mavericks have indeed made an offer to Marcin Gortat and the only hangup will be if the Magic decides to match the offer.

Barring that, the next center of the Mavericks appears headed this way.

This would represent the first domino in the Mavericks' summer makeover and probably would be a good move in helping sway Jason Kidd's return.

--Eddie Sefko







http://mavsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/07/mavs-in-the-hunt-for-gortat.html


In free agency, you never know for sure where you stand until you get an agreement in principle and, eventually, signatures on the dotted line.

But indications are that the Mavericks have bolted to the lead in the Marcin Gortat derby, if there ever was such a thing.

Gortat is the 6-11, unrestricted free-agent center who played for Orlando the last two seasons. He averaged 3.3 points and 3.2 rebounds in the playoffs while playing behind Dwight Howard.

But in the one game he started against Philadelphia when Howard was suspended, Gortat had 11 points and 15 rebounds in 40 minutes.

The native of Poland has become one of the hottest free agents in the league with Houston and San Antonio also hot for him.

The Mavericks aren't saying anything about whether they are on the brink of an agreement with Gortat. He likely would cost the entire mid-level exception (about $5.5 million for the first year). If that were stretched out five years, the deal would be worth more than $30 million.

Sounds like a lot, until you realize Gortat is only 24 and that the total money would be less than half of what they paid Erick Dampier, who is in the last year of his deal.

The interesting aspect, if the Mavericks do corral Gortat, is that it would mean they could trade Dampier as part of a package, perhaps with Jerry Stackhouse, and they still would have the center position accounted for.

--Eddie Sefko

[sribb43]

If the Mavs offer Gortat the full MLE, shoot me.....This would be another Diop signing.....not as bad but Gortat is worth nothing near the MLE. If Mavs give him the full MLE the NBA should never allow the Mavs to have access to the mid-level ever again

Gortat is going to be the next Jerome James....at least James put up big #'s against the Spurs back in the 2005 playoffs. Gortat is a nice backup big and nothing more.

The Mavs Brain Trust are @$#$@# Morons!!!!

[TDMVPDPOY]

If the Mavs offer Gortat the full MLE, shoot me.....This would be another Diop signing.....not as bad but Gortat is worth nothing near the MLE. If Mavs give him the full MLE the NBA should never allow the Mavs to have access to the mid-level ever again

Gortat is going to be the next Jerome James....at least James put up big #'s against the Spurs back in the 2005 playoffs. Gortat is a nice backup big and nothing more.

The Mavs Brain Trust are @$#$@# Morons!!!!
at leasts gortat will be contributing, unlike JJ who hasnt done shit since joining the knicks a few years back....

[robbie380]

looks like the mavs were the ones who offered full mle and it looks like the rockets won't be getting gortat if this is true.

[rayray2k8]

If they over pay for him, they'll get him..... XD

[DPG21920]

Hey, paying Gortat the MLE is much, much better than paying Damp 11M. So you get the same production for less, then you can trade for a nice player with Stack and Damps contracts and be much better off.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Hey, paying Gortat the MLE is much, much better than paying Damp 11M. So you get the same production for less, then you can trade for a nice player with Stack and Damps contracts and be much better off.

damps is still a serviceable big whether starter or backup is nice at the correct price of 3m-MLE imo....

[Findog]

I don't mind Gortat for the MLE so much I guess. The onus is still on Dallas to turn Stack/Damp into something much better.

[mavs>spurs2]

fuck

me

[mavs>spurs2]

If we don't make a real move, we might not even make the playoffs. I'm talking about we need to bring in some real players and a real center, not give the whole MLE to a decent backup. The previous Davis/Kaman trade would have been much better than signing Gortat and turning Dampier/Stack into a borderline nba starter. I'm preparing for the worst

[HarlemHeat37]

Very good addition to the Mavs if they get him..of course their fans wouldn't recognize a good addition though..

[sribb43]

Kidd aint coming back when he realizes Gortat is the starting C

[Mugen]

think of it this way, the Donnie and Mark are pretty much forced to move Damp and Stack now.

[DPG21920]

I don't mind Gortat for the MLE so much I guess. The onus is still on Dallas to turn Stack/Damp into something much better.

Ya I agree. If the Mavs turn Damp/Stack into a good trade, then they will be better.

[Findog]

Very good addition to the Mavs if they get him..of course their fans wouldn't recognize a good addition though..

He looked good for Orlando in the playoffs. It may be a case of him being buried behind Howard, or he's a contract year ho. It's very hard to gauge. He's only 25 and he's never really had a lot of PT.

[Findog]

Ya I agree. If the Mavs turn Damp/Stack into a good trade, then they will be better.

I wonder if the Jazz would do Boozer/salary filler for Damp/Stack. They can buy Stack out immediately and save $7 million. I'm sure for one year they would rather pay Boozer $10 million than Dampier, even with all of Boozer's issues and effect on team chemistry. But they're going to be in lux tax territory should they decide to match offer sheets to Millsap. I'd rather have Boozer for next year than Dampier, but they can buy Stack out for $7 million and that eases the luxury tax sting a little bit.

And from Dallas' perspective, I'll take one year of Boozer, especially if he's playing for another contract.

[DPG21920]

Not sure, but they have big expirings and can probably wait until the trade deadline to see which teams are desperate to dump players unless a no brainer comes along. I could see them dealing for Bosh, but they would have to give up Howard imo.

[gmanrulz]

a player who plays like 6 minutes a game in his nba career is worth 5.5 million a year.

[mavs>spurs2]

Gortat isn't worth the full MLE. We need to work miracles and get BARGAINS not get screwed over if were going to turn this ship around. We're alot of talent away from being contenders again and Gortat barely puts a dent in that.

[mavs>spurs2]

In fact, is Gortat even worth half the MLE?

He looked pretty good at times, but we're talking about a guy that put up 3ppg, 3rpg, and +6 efficiency rating for the FULL MLE that's crazy talk.

[sribb43]

In fact, is Gortat even worth half the MLE?

He looked pretty good at times, but we're talking about a guy that put up 3ppg, 3rpg, and +6 efficiency rating for the FULL MLE that's crazy talk.

agree

[Findog]

I would approach giving him the full MLE with caution, but I bet his #s look pretty good extrapolated out to 25-30 minutes per game. How much burn are you going to get behind Superman?

[DJB]

The onus is still on Dallas to turn Stack/Damp into something much better.

:lmao

[Findog]

^ Troll fail.

[Findog]

OMG Stack looks like the Geico Caveman. Har Har Har Har Har

/Spur fan

[DJB]

more like a troll win

[Ghazi]

I have no objection to such a move :). Still need 1-2 trades though :)

[loveforthegame]

It would be a good move for Dallas but the full MLE? Only makes sense if they've found a new home for Damp.

[ElNono]

I would approach giving him the full MLE with caution, but I bet his #s look pretty good extrapolated out to 25-30 minutes per game. How much burn are you going to get behind Superman?


But in the one game he started against Philadelphia when Howard was suspended, Gortat had 11 points and 15 rebounds in 40 minutes.

Those are decent numbers against Philadelphia in 40 mins, but I'm not convinced that guy commands a full MLE.

[sribb43]

I'm afraid this signing will turn out similar to these guys

http://wiki.muscoop.com/lib/exe/fetch.php/men_s_basketball/mcilvaine_sonics_shaq.jpg

http://sneakerboxx.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/t1_diop2.jpg

http://www.hotstovenewyork.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/340x2.jpg

[Findog]

more like a troll win

27 posts and you have yet to elicit a chuckle. Keep trying pup.

[timvp]

Gortat would be a pretty good risk for the Mavs. He needs a lot of room to operate but he should have that room with Dirk out on the perimeter.

[sribb43]

I just saw that Gortat was drafted by the Suns in 2005...Another draft pick thrown away by PHX. :lol

[LEONARD]

27 posts and you have yet to elicit a chuckle. Keep trying pup.

13,835 posts and you have yet to elicit a chuckle. Keep trying pup.

[sribb43]

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[timvp]

11 points, 13 rebounds and 2.5 blocks per 36 minutes for Gortat. It's risky extrapolating the numbers out that far but those are some healthy numbers if the Mavs think he can produce at his current level.

[ginobili's bald spot]

I always thought Gortat looked solid when watching him this year. A big guy and he plays with good energy who has a little bit of athleticism. MLE isnt bad considering how overpaid most big men are these days.

[Ghazi]

If he could actually replicate last years numbers over the course of 30-35 minutes then he actually IS worth the MLE. BUt that's dubious to bank on considering it was a contract year and that this is a completely new role for him... assuming he's starting? I dunnO!

Can we get some wing players up in this shit?

[coyotes_geek]

He's actually a pretty good fit for Dallas. It's not like the Mavs have anyone who does their work down low where Gortat would be in his way. They can spread the floor and that should allow Gortat to basically do the same things he did in Orlando. It's not a move that will put Dallas over any kind of hump, but Gortat would be a nice piece there. Yeah, full MLE for him is pricey, but you've got to overpay restricted free agents.

[DPG21920]

13,835 posts and you have yet to elicit a chuckle. Keep trying pup.

Not everyone can have a successful SpursDynasty troll like you.

[BadOdor]

13,835 posts and you have yet to elicit a chuckle. Keep trying pup.

I think I just saw SpursDynasty post in the spurs forum. QUICK, BEFORE HE GETS AWAY!!!

[mogrovejo]

This is a steal for the Mavs. Gortat will easily outplay a MLE contract. It's amazing that some people are comparing him to Dampier.

[sonic21]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4303432



Restricted free-agent center Marcin Gortat was scheduled to fly to Dallas on Thursday after giving the Mavericks a verbal commitment to sign an offer sheet with them next week, according to NBA front-office sources.

[rayray2k8]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4303432

:lmao
They over payed for him!

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

The Suns sold the draft rights to Gortat......that right there means he'll be an all star.

[sribb43]

Mavs sign Gortat for the MLE and Lakers sign Artest....MAVS FAIL

[Ghazi]

Mavs sign Gortat for the MLE and Lakers sign Artest....MAVS FAIL

Oh shut the fuck up will ya.

[baseline bum]

Donnie Neslon and Chris Wallace must be cousins.

[baseline bum]

I'm afraid this signing will turn out similar to these guys

http://wiki.muscoop.com/lib/exe/fetch.php/men_s_basketball/mcilvaine_sonics_shaq.jpg


Which one are you referring to? McIlvane or Baker?

[Ghazi]

I think the Mavs fans will be happy with this guy. He has some game. Id make a strong push for Marion now. He had his best years with Kidd. That would insure Kidd returning. Bring Bass back, and the Mavs are in the thick of things. Its not as broke as you guys think it is.

Motherfuckers are just too impatient is all. It's July 2nd and its as if the sky is falling. Stack is still an appealing expiring contract to dangle... I just wonder if there's any good names on the market out there. Are Okafor/Butler/whoever up for trade?! I dunno... I just dunno.

Part of it may stem from Spurs/Cavs/Magic/Lakers making big acquisitions so far... but its not as if its the Mavs FO's fault any of that transpired.

I'll just be patient and hope for the best. Our best days may be behind us but at least we can look back on our 2006 championship.

[Findog]

Which one are you referring to? McIlvane or Baker?

He's obviously talking about Shaq dumbass. They won only three championships so it was a big mistake.

[mavs>spurs2]

Well, to be honest, Id like to see the Mavs and Dirk in the mix again this year. Cuban has deep pockets, and there is plenty of talent, but teams are not wasting time. If they can add Gortat and Marion without giving up anything, then you in business.

we'll still need another center to provide post scoring and there aren't any, and plus alot more depth. we need a shit ton of talent just all around. a legit 2 guard would be nice

[MarHill]

Maybe the Suns are willing to deal Amare. Anthony Parker would be an upgrade over that guy that dont know how to foul.

Antoine Wright.....is his name!!!

:lmao

[Roxsfan]

so is this official yet?

[sribb43]

so is this official yet?

No, not until July 15th bc Gortat cant sign his offer sheet until July 8th and the Magic have until July 15th to either match the mavs offer or for go it. he is a restricted FA

[Ditty]

gortat
dirk
howard
wright
barrea

not too bad for a team to make the lottery next year

[Findog]

Are the Magic really gonna spend MLE money on a backup center who plays 10-15 minutes a night? Mavs are gonna offer him 5 years to make the Magic clench. Also, Bass is being courted by Orlando; Bass for Gortat doesnt work if they S'n'T, but something could be worked out. And both teams would preserve their MLE if they can work out a trade somehow that involves Bass and Gortat.