To: whottt From: Extra Stout Happy Birthday, Merry Christmas, Don't Hurt Yourself

[Extra Stout]

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[SonOfAGun]

God Bless America!

[gtownspur]

i just *sploated.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Definately a GILF! :tu

[mookie2001]

you betcha id buy that for a dollar

[jman3000]

I think I see 1/4 of a piece of cleavage.

[mookie2001]

shes got that slutty jogger look

[Winehole23]

xebK0CrtyuM

[Winehole23]

*Throw 0 2 1 up forever!*

[ploto]

That's how you get people to take you seriously politically. Bend over and show some cleavage.

[MannyIsGod]

What a proud and proper way to display the flag.

[Winehole23]

Yakt0mo8eJE

[ElNono]

Where's the camel toe?

Boooring....

[Wild Cobra]

Where's the camel toe?

Boooring....
And I get accused of being tacky with a pic I posted...

[jman3000]

So was this a spread in a woman's fitness mag?


Kid looks adorable. Children with down syndrome are usually super loving.

[ChumpDumper]

What an odd photo spread. You'd think Runner's World would have a picture of her, you know, running.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

POW

jesus tapdancing christ it should be flat out illegal for women that bonerific to hold offices.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

....and the jealousy continues.

[whottt]

She looks cute, that's got nothing to do with why I like her as a politician though. You guys may vote based on looks...but I do not.

[Trainwreck2100]

got dAMN if you could pretend she was a mute she would be perfect

[SonOfAGun]

That's how you get people to take you seriously politically. Bend over and show some cleavage.

u mad?

[jman3000]

Just heard on CNN that she's going to quit her post next month.

[SonOfAGun]

Quit = Not seek second term?

[jman3000]

Quit = Not seek second term?

quit = quit.

next month.

as in not in 18 months.

as in quit. as in resign.

[ChumpDumper]

Quit = Not seek second term?Yes.

[jman3000]

If by not seek a 2nd term you mean resign... then yes.

[SonOfAGun]

ah my article just got updated

lol wow. What is she doing. That's pretty shitty.


Spin: Will the left-wing media now praise her for stepping down from her business responsibilities to care for all of her children?

[MannyIsGod]

I wonder why she's quitting.

[jman3000]

Apparently she said that she can do more on a national scene and that she's done as much as she can for Alaska.

That's a major paraphrase. Something along those lines... probably not as blunt.

[jman3000]

I'm watching the video right now... really weird press conference.. even for her standards.

:lmao @ her basketball analogy :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

If by not seek a 2nd term you mean resign... then yes.As he said, shit just got updated.

Nobody likes a quitter, except people who like quitters.

[jman3000]

ah my article just got updated

lol wow. What is she doing. That's pretty shitty.


Spin: Will the left-wing media now praise her for stepping down from her business responsibilities to care for all of her children?

She didn't mention that until the very end. Do you really think that's the reason? :lol

[SonOfAGun]

She didn't mention that until the very end. Do you really think that's the reason? :lol

haha I'm just joking. That's the only spin I could throw out on this story.

Quitting an elected position to pursue your own interest shows a serious character flaw.

[jman3000]

I don't know what to think to be honest.

This is so out of left field it's a bit surreal.

I wanna know what she's thinking and who exactly is advising her.

[MannyIsGod]

I'm watching the video right now... really weird press conference.. even for her standards.

:lmao @ her basketball analogy :lmao

She talks to much and its almost like you can see the wheels turning. It happens to slowly and she ends up repeating herself.

[MannyIsGod]

haha I'm just joking. That's the only spin I could throw out on this story.

Quitting an elected position to pursue your own interest shows a serious character flaw.


Its just weird. I dunno what the dael is

[jman3000]

Senate run?

[balli]

She looks cute, that's got nothing to do with why I like her as a politician though. You guys may vote based on looks...but I do not.
You. Piece. Of. Shit. Fuck you. It would be better if you said looks were the reason for your support. At least it'd be sensible.

As it is, saying that you support Palin for her intelligence or capacity for governance (or whatever other traits she entirely lacks), is analogous to one saying that they support Michael Jackson, not for his music, but because of his inspirational relationship with little boys.

The cult of Palin is absolutely brain dead (more than she herself). She and what she represents is so fucking retarded that supporting her as a national political figure is to more or less commit a treasonous act against the peoples of the United States. And you, whottt, you fucking moronic douche, are just as culpable as any of the worst offenders. Your shiittiness as a human being is only rivaled by your shittiness as an American. Fuck you, have a horrible 4th of July.

[MannyIsGod]

Senate run?

Not by leaving this way. You at least run out your term. She's pretty much damaged goods, IMO, for any future political office bigger than Governor.

[ChumpDumper]

Its just weird. I dunno what the dael isShe has to spend too much time in Iowa and New Hampshire to keep an eye on Putin now.

[jman3000]

:lol this thread title is a lot funnier now.

[SonOfAGun]

You. Piece. Of. Shit. Fuck you. It would be better if you said looks were the reason for your support. At least it'd be sensible.

As it is, saying that you support Palin for her intelligence or capacity for governance (or whatever other traits she entirely lacks), is analogous to one saying that they support Michael Jackson, not for his music, but because of his inspirational relationship with little boys.

The cult of Palin is absolutely brain dead (more than she herself). She and what she represents is so fucking retarded that supporting her as a national political figure is to more or less commit a treasonous act against the peoples of the United States. And you, whottt, you fucking moronic douche, are just as culpable as any of the worst offenders. Your shiittiness as a human being is only rivaled by your shittiness as an American. Fuck you, have a horrible 4th of July.

Yes, because you worship politicians who you deem "intelligent". Because we all know intelligent politicians are intelligent enough to impose themselves into everyone's lives.

Politicians don't need intelligence. They just need enough common sense to not think of themselves as royalty and stay the fuck out of people's business.

[jman3000]

Her brother is saying in an interview on FNC that she couldn't run her state effectively because she was spending too much time defending herself from the media.

and that's a minimal paraphrase.

[balli]

Politicians don't need intelligence. They just need enough common sense to not think of themselves as royalty and stay the fuck out of people's business.
I'd suggest you read Purdham's piece, where it was revealed Palin once signed God's name instead of her own at the bottom of a document.

After all, WTF is royalty next to the creator of the universe?

[Winehole23]

The cult of Palin is absolutely brain dead (more than she herself) to the point that supporting her as a national political figure is to more or less commit a treasonous act against the people of the United States.A lot of *erstwhile* Republicans thought so last fall, yes.

(The rest is over the top IMO, but I suspect it was meant to be.)

[ChumpDumper]

Yes, because you worship politicians who you deem "intelligent". Because we all know intelligent politicians are intelligent enough to impose themselves into everyone's lives.

Politicians don't need intelligence. They just need enough common sense to not think of themselves as royalty and stay the fuck out of people's business.Are you saying Palin is not intelligent?

[SonOfAGun]

Are you saying Palin is not intelligent?

I'm saying this "intelligent" argument is pointless because a politician can be intelligent but have a whackball agenda.

That Ivy League Degree Obama landed hasn't done shit for his solution to the economy. I know why. You do too chumpster.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm saying this "intelligent" argument is pointless because a politician can be intelligent but have a whackball agenda.
So which politicians do you consider to be not intelligent?

[SonOfAGun]

So which politicians do you consider to be not intelligent?

The ones whose last names end with e.

[whottt]

You. Piece. Of. Shit. Fuck you. It would be better if you said looks were the reason for your support. At least it'd be sensible.

As it is, saying that you support Palin for her intelligence or capacity for governance (or whatever other traits she entirely lacks), is analogous to one saying that they support Michael Jackson, not for his music, but because of his inspirational relationship with little boys.

The cult of Palin is absolutely brain dead (more than she herself). She and what she represents is so fucking retarded that supporting her as a national political figure is to more or less commit a treasonous act against the peoples of the United States. And you, whottt, you fucking moronic douche, are just as culpable as any of the worst offenders. Your shiittiness as a human being is only rivaled by your shittiness as an American. Fuck you, have a horrible 4th of July.

Ok go fuck yourself you ignorant little punk.


You know what I know? 10-15 years from now, you'll either be as stupid as you are right now, or else you'll have gotten smarter to the point that you realize how stupid you were right now and how little you actually knew.


You do not know fucking sheeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiit. About shit.

[ChumpDumper]

The ones whose last names end with e.You have a list?

[jman3000]

I've watched her press conference 3 times already and I'm still perplexed.

It's all over the place.

It comes off as a poorly written essay.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

I've watched her press conference 3 times already and I'm still perplexed.

It's all over the place.

It comes off as a poorly written essay.

What if it was blackmail? I bet someone found a sex tape.

[ChumpDumper]

What if it was blackmail? I bet someone found a sex tape.That would probably make her more popular.

[Winehole23]

After all, WTF is royalty next to the creator of the universe?Traditionally, yes (http://www.wsu.edu/%7Edee/GLOSSARY/DIVRIGHT.HTM).


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dnHhK-XRn5k/RpzrAnmanjI/AAAAAAAAADo/ZDtAF35h_BM/s320/ny-king+baby.jpg

[balli]

You do not know fucking sheeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiit. About shit.
As was mentioned by DOK in the other thread:

At least I know that some barely coherent moron who bounced between community colleges for 5 years and who thinks the continent of Africa is one country, isn't qualified for the American presidency. Yeah, at least I know that much.

[Winehole23]

*Not wired to get things done under the pressure of politics as usual.*

[Winehole23]

*That's not good for Alaska.*

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Politicians don't need intelligence.


:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Winehole23]

First thing she should do is fire her communications director.

[whottt]

As was mentioned by DOK in the other thread:

At least I know that some barely coherent moron who bounced between community colleges for 5 years and who thinks the continent of Africa is one country, isn't qualified for the American presidency. Yeah, at least I know that much.



At least she knows we have 50 states...shit for brains.

[whottt]

Anyway you guys are right...last thing we need is someone who is religious running the country, best to elect ahteists like Obama :tu

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

At least she knows we have 50 states...shit for brains.


Was that one of the final lessons at her community college?

[ChumpDumper]

Anyway you guys are right...last thing we need is someone who is religious running the country, best to elect ahteists like Obama :tuHa!

A fat lot you know!

He's a devout Muslim.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Anyway you guys are right...last thing we need is someone who is religious running the country, best to elect ahteists like Obama :tu


Yup, damn right.

I don't want someone in office who will try to turn the constitution into the bible. If people want to be religious that's their god given right but it shouldn't affect me if I chose not to practice religion.

[whottt]

Yup, damn right.

I don't want someone in office who will try to turn the constitution into the bible. If people want to be religious that's their god given right but it shouldn't affect me if I chose not to practice religion.

You're an idiot.

[whottt]

Ha!

A fat lot you know!

He's a devout Muslim.



You seem smarter when you are saying the ex-journalist is stupid and doesn't know the name of any magazines, because she didn't name any :tu


You really do.

[ChumpDumper]

You seem smarter when you are saying the ex-journalist is stupid and doesn't know the name of any magazines, because she didn't name any :tu


You really do.I'll just be happy when we have an actual US citizen running the country again! :tu

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

You're an idiot.


Why? Cause I don't want religion force fed to me?

[ChumpDumper]

I don't want someone in office who will try to turn the constitution into the bible.What about the Koran?

[Winehole23]

Palin suggested she could do more good for America out of office, than being Governor of Alaska.

[Winehole23]

I agree with her.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Until there is indisputable evidence god exists.....laws shouldn't be based off god's supposed "teachings".

[balli]

First thing she should do is fire her communications director.


There are plenty of people out there—not only English teachers but also amateur language buffs like me—who believe that diagramming a sentence provides insight into the mind of its perpetrator. The more the diagram is forced to wander around the page, loop back on itself, and generally stretch its capabilities, the more it reveals that the mind that created the sentence is either a richly educated one—with a Proustian grasp of language that pushes the limits of expression—or such an impoverished one that it can produce only hot air, baloney, and twaddle.

I found myself considering this paradox once again when confronted with the sentences of Sarah Palin, the Republican vice-presidential nominee. No one but a Republican denial specialist could argue with the fact that Sarah Palin's recent TV appearances have scaled the heights of inanity. The sentences she uttered in interviews with Charles Gibson, Sean Hannity, and Katie Couric seem to twitter all over the place like mourning doves frightened at the feeder. Which left me wondering: What can we learn from diagramming them?

One thing we can't learn, of course, is whether her words are true or make sense. Part of the appeal of diagramming is the fact that just about any sentence can be diagrammed, even when it is gibberish. Cats chase mice and Mice chase cats present the same kind of entity to the diagrammer. So does Muffins bludgeon bookcases. If it's a string of words containing a certain number of parts of speech arranged in reasonably coherent order, it can be hacked and beaten into a diagram.

Once we start diagramming political sentences, the diagram's indifference to meaning can be especially striking. Stirring words like "I have a dream," the magisterial Declaration of Independence (a staple of diagramming teachers), bald-faced lies ("I am not a crook"), and crafty shadings of the truth ("I did not have sexual relations with that woman") can be diagrammed with equal ease. But some politicians—our current president included—offer meanderings in the higher realms of drivel that leave the diagrammer groping for the Tylenol ("Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream") or the gin bottle ("I remember meeting a mother of a child who was abducted by the North Koreans right here in the Oval Office").

So let's take a crack at a few of Palin's doozies. From the Katie Couric interview:


It's very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia as Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where—where do they go?

A diagrammer doesn't care about who "they" are in that last stuttered question or fuss over the problem of the head-rearing Putin coming into our "air space." A diagrammer simply diagrams. I didn't have a clue about what to do with the question that ends it. Otherwise, in its mice chase cats way, the sentence is perfectly diagrammable.

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/4950/83505715.gif

Other Palinisms are not so tractable. From the Charlie Gibson interview:


I know that John McCain will do that and I, as his vice president, families we are blessed with that vote of the American people and are elected to serve and are sworn in on January 20, that will be our top priority is to defend the American people.

I didn't stop to marvel at the mad thrusting of that pet political watchword "families" into the text. I just rolled up my sleeves and attempted to bring order out of the chaos:
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5233/18251225.gif
I had to give up. This sentence is not for diagramming lightweights. If there's anyone out there who can kick this sucker into line, I'd be delighted to hear from you. To me, it's not English—it's a collection of words strung together to elicit a reaction, floating ands and prepositional phrases ("with that vote of the American people") be damned. It requires not a diagram but a selection of push buttons.

Granted, diagramming usually deals with written English. We don't expect speech to reach the heights of eloquence or even lucidity that the written word is capable of. In our world, politicians don't do much writing: Their preferred communication is the canned speech. But they're also forced, from time to time, to answer questions, and their answers often resemble the rambling nonsense, obfuscation, and grammatical insanity that many of us would produce when put on the spot.

Yet surely, more than most of us, politicians need to be able to think on their feet, to have a brain that works quickly and rationally under pressure. Do we really want to be led by someone who, when asked a straightforward question, flails around like an undergraduate who stayed up all night boozing instead of studying for the exam?

In a few short weeks, Sarah Palin has produced enough poppycock to keep parsers and diagrammers busy for a long time. In the end, though, out of her mass of verbiage in the Sean Hannity interview, Palin did manage to emit a perfectly lucid diagram-ready statement that sums up, albeit modestly, not the state of the economy that she was (more or less) talking about but the quality of her thinking:
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http://www.slate.com/id/2201158/

[whottt]

We don''t really have to do this you know...

I've been extremely entertained watching the dual hypocrisy and ignorance over the Iranian elections. I haven't even needed to do anything to make those threads entertaining. It's like watching the stupidest people on Earth throw a convention.


Hours, nay, days worth of entertainment.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

What about the Koran?


Since Obama isn't a Muslim and has never been a Muslim that's not an issue, and to answer your question obviously I wouldn't want the Koran to be in American law.

[ChumpDumper]

I think she's going to get her own Fox News show a la Huckabee.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

It's like watching the stupidest people on Earth throw a convention.

So it's like watching the Republican convention......the crowd is probably not as white though, the RNC looks like a KKK meeting these days.

[Winehole23]

..I've been extremely entertained watching the dual hypocrisy and ignorance over the Iranian elections. I haven't even needed to do anything to make those threads entertaining. It's like watching the stupidest people on Earth throw a convention.


Hours, nay, days worth of entertainment.I am most gratified to hear that our performance pleased you.

[Winehole23]

To hear so personally from you is a special treat.

[jman3000]

The spin is pretty funny. Gotta love em for trying.

[whottt]

So it's like watching the Republican convention......the crowd is probably not as white though, the RNC looks like a KKK meeting these days.


I guess it takes a racist to know one.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I guess it takes a racist to know one.


Saying the Republican convention draws an extremely white crowd isn't racism....it's stating the obvious.

[whottt]

Saying the Republican convention draws an extremely white crowd isn't racism....it's stating the obvious.

You compared them to a KKK meeting because they are white...


You fucking racist piece of shit.

Funniest thing about racists, they can't hide what they are, they're too fucking stupid.

[Extra Stout]

I just want to say, so many people who over time here -- for Alaska -- families, everyone who has reached out, because it really has been a whirlwind to think that I --thank you.

Because with all that has been going on since the election Alaska, the America, what for my family -- and Todd has been so supportive -- again, thank you -- Alaska is in good hands.

But really the time has come, from the time John McCain and I -- when I stood up there, so many American people and a great country it is, to meet all of you and them -- but sometimes you just think, and I come to a point where I realize these things, that my faith in God, and my family, which is so important to me, and to everyone.

It comes to me to be that the best thing now for me -- and for all Alaskans -- really, the best thing going forward, and I just want to be wisdom here -- not for myself, but just in the best interests of Alaska and the American people and my family -- for they've gone through so much, what with the media -- and I've learned a lot of things here about how the media deals -- but some of them at Fox News I want to -- well, really, I could name, but then there's also -- there's a spirit of -- to believe that we all just want what's best for the American people.

Thank you and God bless.

[ChumpDumper]

Well, she has three years to learn how to use a teleprompter.






Yeah, I said it.

[whottt]

Is balli gone from this thread? I was enjoying the Obama supporter saying the Palin supporters are like the Michael Jackson supporters. That was like 5th level self asskicking...and I want to see more of it.

[jman3000]

oy vey... this is giving me a headache.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol

I'm hearing things.

[balli]

^^^^ Is that real? I mean I know on page 3 I just posted some diagrams of Palin's sentences and I should be prepared for this level of gibberish , but seriously.....


I just want to be wisdom here. ?????????????


all that has been going on since the election Alaska, the America, what for my family -- and Todd has been so supportive -- again, thank you ????????????????????????

I mean, my God. Who the fuck supports this absolute idiot with a straight face?


but sometimes you just think
No, trust me Sarah, you don't.

[SonOfAGun]

I'd support a tree branch for president knowing it could not fuck up as much as the same ol' politicians.

Whatever Mr Sir Tree branch does or does not do to this country, it is win win.

[jman3000]

^^^^ Is that real? I mean I know on page 3 I just posted some diagrams of Palin's sentences and I should be prepared for this level of gibberish , but seriously.....
?????????????

????????????????????????

I mean, my God. Who the fuck supports this absolute idiot with a straight face?

No, trust me Sarah, you don't.

It was a random speech generator.

[Extra Stout]

^^^^ Is that real?
No, that's me, making fun of her inability to speak coherently.

[jman3000]

"This success... I am proud to take all the credit... for hiring all the right people."

:lol


It just came to me what she sounds like... It sounds as if she's speaking as a translator translating another language into English.

[whottt]

You guys have proved beyond all doubt Sarah Palin can't give a speech, way to go geniuses.

Pat yourself on the back for your intelligence, and take a well deserved bow.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm sure she could give a speech at some point. Few people can speak at length off the cuff.

She sounds a little less condescending than Jindal, I'll give her that.

[whottt]

I'm sure she could give a speech at some point. Few people can speak at length off the cuff.


Yeah she's only a journalist, probably has stage fright.




She sounds a little less condescending than Jindal, I'll give her that.

And if there's anyone that'd be an expert on condescending.....

[whottt]

Anything else? Tball will always have a special place in my heart but it's not my everything.

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah she's only a journalist, probably has stage fright.Nah, she just wasn't using a telelprompter today. Those help journalists too.


And if there's anyone that'd be an expert on condescending.....I'm not an expert on anything -- but I am hugely condescending. It's probably the main reason I wouldn't vote for me.

[whottt]

Could be that she was hyperventilating and was suffering from oxygen deprivation...probably should have had a breathalyzer on standby or something.

[ChumpDumper]

Could be that she was hyperventilating and was suffering from oxygen deprivation...probably should have had a breathalyzer on standby or something.No, that's not it.

She just didn't do that well with just the notes she had with her. It's not easy.

[whottt]

Could also be that you are tatooed ass Democrat whore incapable of seeing anything without a slant, even if it means ignoraning the obvious to justify that slant.

But make no mistake about, it is a slant that sees certain things and either completely ignores or is totally oblivious to certain other things.

That's exactly what it is, Chump.

[Marcus Bryant]

Could also be that you are tatooed ass Democrat whore incapable of seeing anything without a slant, even if it means ignoraning the obvious to justify that slant.

But make no mistake about, it is a slant that sees certain things and either completely ignores or is totally oblivious to certain other things.

That's exactly what it is, Chump.

Did you start drinking at noon?

[ChumpDumper]

No, it was just a pretty awkward press conference.

Did you even see it?

[ChumpDumper]

I'll take your silence as a no.

[Winehole23]

Ignoraning the obvious. May I steal that?

[whottt]

Ignoraning the obvious. May I steal that?

You surely may. With my blessings. Steal it, use it often. Show how clever you are.

[Marcus Bryant]

Leaving the governorship to run full time for president isn't a good political move. If she's just fed up with politics in general and wants a break from public life, that's understandable.

What would have made sense politically (assuming she is going to run for president) is to remain as governor and then run for Murkowski's Senate seat in 2010. If she won that, then she would have raised her visibility in DC and perhaps positioned herself to run for the 2012 nomination....or perhaps 2016.

[whottt]

/

[ChumpDumper]

So you didn't watch it.

Cool.

No problem.

Trust me then, it wasn't the smoothest in the history of politics.

[Marcus Bryant]

In Baton Rouge, someone's uncorking a bottle of champagne.

[whottt]

Oh well shit, there goes 2012.

[Marcus Bryant]

Oh well shit, there goes 2012.

eh? This should make it easier for Jindal to wrap up the primary earlier and reduce the influence of the social conservatives.

[MannyIsGod]

:lmao great thread.

[mookie2001]

i dont get it? why is she quiting?

[mookie2001]

Jindals got all that big curry money behind him

[ChumpDumper]

Oh well shit, there goes 2012.Not necessarily. There's actually some good shotgun analysis going on Fox with Varney asking for reactions in rapid succession.

[whottt]

eh? This should make it easier for Jindal to wrap up the primary earlier and reduce the influence of the social conservatives.

Is this same group of Republicans that does nothing but bitch and whine? If so fuck em....they didn't do anything to win the last election.

[Marcus Bryant]

Is this same group of Republicans that does nothing but bitch and whine? If so fuck em....they didn't do anything to win the last election.

Right, and Palin is their candidate.

[Winehole23]

Leaving the governorship to run full time for president isn't a good political move. If she's just fed up with politics in general and wants a break from public life, that's understandable.That's what I thought. Stepping down will lead to the opposite of what she says she wants to avoid. A media scrum.

Maybe she's aching for a return to politics as usual, first-person shooter style.

[Winehole23]

It will put the focus back on her family -- perhaps more respectfully this time, perhaps not -- now that she is out of office.

[Winehole23]

In Baton Rouge, someone's uncorking a bottle of champagne.It's way too soon to come out for 2012. Palin would have done better to stay governor, as you pointed out. Now she will have to answer more questions about why she quit.

Maybe she couldn't handle the pressure.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Varney is now being reined in by Cavuto's producers.

[Marcus Bryant]

That's what I thought. Stepping down will lead to the opposite of what she says she wants to avoid. A media scrum.

Maybe she's aching for a return to politics as usual, first-person shooter style.

Of course, she could have used this opportunity to bemoan the state of politics in the US and the extraordinary attacks on her family by every half-wit with a wifi connection. Within 48 hours of the announcement of her candidacy every little piece of dirt in her family's history was front page news. But that's par for the course.

Had Palin been a left wing politician then she would have been the Joan of Arc heroine who took on a corrupt party establishment and Big Oil. Instead what was deemed important was whether her or her daughter gave birth to a baby, all because she was deemed to be unsympathetic to whatever leftist cause du jour. Oddly enough, she had the same position on gay marriage as her opponents.

[Extra Stout]

i dont get it? why is she quiting?
To focus on her jogging-model career.

[whottt]

Right, and Palin is their candidate.

Oh well fuck them too...if all they are going to do is bitch, they should just go ahead and support Obama or shut the fuck up.

[ChumpDumper]

To focus on her jogging-model career.What jogging?

[Marcus Bryant]

It will put the focus back on her family -- perhaps more respectfully this time, perhaps not -- now that she is out of office.

Well, the ostensible rationale for the constant media reports on her life which apparently someone cares about is gone if she is no longer a public official.

[ChumpDumper]

Oh well shit, there goes 2012.I don't know -- "Pass the ball for victory!" could be a great slogan.

[Winehole23]

Within 48 hours of the announcement of her candidacy every little piece of dirt in her family's history was front page news.Almost.

Respectfully, monsieur, the story may continue to unfold.

[whottt]

whinehole

Be sure to steal this one tooo...exact same thing, only better.

[ChumpDumper]

There will be nothing poor about her now.

And it's not my vote she would have to worry about -- there is the real possibility of a Ross Perot effect from her quitting.

[gtownspur]

jindal the Curry Cowboy will ride on a twister and corral all the bigots to the repug ticket.

-boutons part deuce

[whottt]

there is the real possibility of a Ross Perot effect from her quitting.

True, if Perot hadn't given up his Governership, he'd have been President :tu

[ChumpDumper]

True, if Perot hadn't given up his Governership, he'd have been President :tuHe quit.

She quit.

You want to support a quitter. :tu

[Winehole23]

Well, the ostensible rationale ... is gone if she is no longer a public official.Not if she's stepping down to run for the presidency.

Is there any reporting on the background of this decision?

*In the works for months* suggests to me that Palin has been considering quitting maybe as far back as Election Day, 2008.

[gtownspur]

He quit.

She quit.

You want to support a quitter. :tu

Tell you what.. (spit).. that Pixel Pusher won't quit you.

[Marcus Bryant]

Almost.

Respectfully, monsieur, the story may continue to unfold.

There's always that, I suppose. If so, maybe it's interesting as the final part of the story, but as in the case of Clinton's extracurricular activities, it's trivial. But naturally partisans leap upon it with glee.

Hence everyone expresses their dismay with affairs of state, all the while being transfixed by affairs of the flesh.

[ChumpDumper]

Tell you what.. (spit).. that Pixel Pusher won't quit you.Geez, project much?

[Marcus Bryant]

Not if she's stepping down to run for the presidency.

True. I was thinking along the lines of getting out of politics because she's sick of having her family subjected to such nonsense.

[ChumpDumper]

True. I was thinking along the lines of getting out of politics because she's sick of having her family subjected to such nonsense.No chance in hell.

[gtownspur]

25 page thread or bust!

[whottt]

/



/



/ :tu

[ChumpDumper]

So you still haven't watched the presser yet, whottt.

:tu

[gtownspur]

So you still haven't watched the presser yet, whottt.

:tu

teleprompter less and without the uhm uh uh uhms brain freezes of the Obama euro circuit.. i didn't expect any better.

[ChumpDumper]

teleprompter less and without the uhm uh uh uhms brain freezes of the Obama euro circuit.. i didn't expect any better.Sarah could've used a teleprompter today. I expected better.

[Winehole23]

So we'll have two more years of Sarah Palin batting her eyes before she makes it official; and persecuting the round, fleshy posteriors of demagogues with the thorns of her mavericky wisdom.

Oh, goody.

[Marcus Bryant]

So we'll have two more years of Sarah Palin batting her eyes before she makes it official; and persecuting the round, fleshy posteriors of demagogues with the thorns of her mavericky wisdom.

Oh, goody.

Basically. Of course, Jindal will look all the more better.

[ploto]

u mad?

No- I got better cleavage than that.

[whottt]

Are your tits better than Pelosis'?

[whottt]

/////////////
:tu

[Winehole23]

Basically. Of course, Jindal will look all the more better.I used to think so until his awkward state of the union response, but most people probably forgot about that.

Some Louisiana folks say we haven't seen the *real* Bobby Jindal yet.

[ChumpDumper]

I used to think so until his awkward state of the union response, but most people already forgot about that, I guess.

Some Louisiana folks say we haven't seen the *real* Bobby Jindal yet.He needs do drop the public television children's show diction and put on a few pounds.

[Winehole23]

Too skinny?

[ChumpDumper]

Too skinny?So was JFK until the cortisone shots.

[Winehole23]

That used to be true of Mr Obama.

[Winehole23]

What weight is Obama up to these days?

[ChumpDumper]

That used to be true of Mr Obama.He had cortisone shots?

[Winehole23]

Were there physical stats for inauguration day?

[Winehole23]

No, that he was skinny.

[Marcus Bryant]

No, that he was skinny.

Not that he smokes or did a few lines back in the day? Though one would hope that would have helped him to consider the folly in prohibition, be it tobacco or other...

[ChumpDumper]

No, that he was skinny.Not Jindal skinny.

[ploto]

Something just seems fishy about such a short-notice press conference to announce her resignation.

And I have never heard ANY jokes making fun of her son.

She was extremely hyper!

[whottt]

Something just seems fishy about such a short-notice press conference to announce her resignation.

And I have never heard ANY jokes making fun of her son.

She was extremely hyper!

Damn so she lost your vote now too?

Fuck!

[Winehole23]

Something just seems fishy about such a short-notice press conference to announce her resignation.Palin said it had been in the works for months, but maybe she was just saving face.

I wondered at first if there wasn't something as yet undisclosed behind it all.

Have you heard anything about the background of the decision?

[ChumpDumper]

Palin said it had been in the works for months, but maybe she was just saving face.

I wondered at first if there wasn't something as yet undisclosed behind it all.

Have you heard anything about the background of the decision?I heard that the decision not to run had been in the works for weeks if not months, but the resignation part was very recent.

[ploto]

I wondered at first if there wasn't something as yet undisclosed behind it all.

Have you heard anything about the background of the decision?

The AP story said that the press conference was called so hastily that only a few reporters got in, and any who were late were held back by security from entering.

[Winehole23]

*Pass the ball for victory!*

[Winehole23]

I think she's going to get her own Fox News show a la Huckabee.You betcha!

[Marcus Bryant]

jindal the Curry Cowboy will ride on a twister and corral all the bigots to the repug ticket.

-boutons part deuce

Right. I can't wait until every 20 year old with an internets connection is dropping curry, 'outsourcing the presidency', and 7-11 jokes on Facebook. As a conservative and of Indian extraction, he'll be subject to the same basic boorish slander as Palin was during the campaign. Of course, he'll be a heretic to the great multicultural denomination of the left wing political church, just as Palin was to the great feminist denomination. Do not ally yourself with the political party through which the great white male protestant satan rules the land and expect to go unpunished.

Then we'll also have the 'serious' discussion about whether or not Jindal is a member of a true ethnic minority, since Indian-Americans have proven, as have Asian-Americans, that all that bullshit about non-whites being unable to succeed in these United States without the enlightened and benevolent left wing political hand in the 21st century is just that.

[SonOfAGun]

Friday Evening News Dropping tradition continues lulz


Then we'll also have the 'serious' discussion about whether or not Jindal is a member of a true ethnic minority, since Indian-Americans have proven, as have Asian-Americans, that all that bullshit about non-whites being unable to succeed in these United States without the enlightened and benevolent left wing political hand in the 21st century is just that.

haha yes, good times. +1 +1 +1

[jman3000]

I'm probably gonna be wrong... but I'm going out on a limb and say she's gonna change her mind.

[Winehole23]

About stepping down?

[jman3000]

Yeah. I don't know why.

but it's saying on MSNBC that sources are saying she might be out of politics for good.

If that's the case then I respect her decision. Saying that she's out because of her family and then turning around a year and a half later and running for president is pretty despicable... but saying your out for your family and staying out is admirable.

[Winehole23]

If that's the case then I respect her decision. Saying that she's out because of her family and then turning around a year and a half later and running for president is pretty despicable... but saying your out for your family and staying out is admirable.Whereas I think this would be a commonplace. We all have the right to change our minds for any reason or no reason at all. it wouldn't bother me.

I thought you were suggesting she would return as governor of Alaska. Sorry.

[ElNono]

The AP story said that the press conference was called so hastily that only a few reporters got in, and any who were late were held back by security from entering.

I bet the party couldn't call up McCain fast enough to monitor her while she was giving her speech. That's probably why it was a quick in and out affaire.

[whottt]

If that's the case then I respect her.


:lmao

[Winehole23]

I respect her. Alaska needs a quitter.

[Winehole23]

So does America, for that matter.

[ChumpDumper]

America needs a quitter.

:lol beat me to it.

[Winehole23]

(talking hamburger stifles a cough)

[whottt]

I respect her. Alaska needs a quitter.

You're so...objective.

[Winehole23]

I wasn't trying to be objective in the least.

[Winehole23]

I was aiming at you

[whottt]

I wasn't trying to be objective in the least.

Are you ever?

[Winehole23]

Are you ever?I don't claim to be, so I don't know why that would bother you.

[Winehole23]

(burger mutters into his own armpit indistinctly)

[whottt]

I don't claim to be

That's good, because you aren't.



so I don't know why that would bother you.

I just think it's stupid for you to dress up your bias with explanations when really, none are needed. Stupidity always bothers me...ask anyone.

[Winehole23]

Stupidity always bothers me...ask anyone.How could we ever forget?

[Winehole23]

You are never done reminding us, profe.

[Winehole23]

A poor, uneducated hamburger such as myself never had a chance against you, profe, not even with *all* these tasty onion rings behind me.

[MannyIsGod]

You're so...objective.

:lmao x 34509384038403840983094830948309483094830940893804 38034984039843 @ YOU calling out someone else's objectivity in a Palin thread.

[whottt]

:lmao x 34509384038403840983094830948309483094830940893804 38034984039843 @ YOU calling out someone else's objectivity in a Palin thread.

I'm totally objective on it. If she wants to quit so be it, and if she doesn't so be that. I don't see what's so complicated about it.


The funny part is a bunch of people that never voted for her and likely never will because they're hardwired into a political party, acting like this in some way changes their opinion on her viability as President.

I mean who in the fuck are you guys trying to convince? A bunch people that were never going to vote for her have pretty much worthless opinions on how this effects her candidacy.

You want the opinion of someone that would vote for her?

It doesn't.

[ChumpDumper]

If she wants to quit so be it, and if she doesn't so be that.She'll be relieved to hear that, since you have such a major influence on her decisionmaking.

Hey, I feel the same way!

So be it!

I'm objective!

[whottt]

How could we ever forget?

Hey, you asked.

[MannyIsGod]

I'm totally objective on it. If she wants to quit so be it, and if she doesn't so be that. I don't see what's so complicated about it.


The funny part is a bunch of people that never voted for her and likely never will because they're hardwired into a political party, acting like this in some way changes their opinion on her viability as President.

I mean who in the fuck are you guys trying to convince? A bunch people that were never going to vote for her have pretty much worthless opinions on how this effects her candidacy.

You want the opinion of someone that would vote for her?

It doesn't.

You trying to marginalize the opinion of people in here based upon who they would have voted for if fucking laughable. Only people that would have voted for her are able to have informed opinions on what her future may be.

Right.

And the thought of you ever being objective with anything having to do with Palin is beyond laughable.

[MannyIsGod]

After your prediction making last fall Whottt, if anyone's opinion in this thread should be marginalized its you.

[Winehole23]

For good and for ill, Manny, it's an at-will forum.

[Winehole23]

whottt only marginalizes himself anyway with his over the top hostility.

[gtownspur]

i look at it this way...

Sarah could have finished her term and gone into the campaign trail trailing Mitt Romney in organizational dominance, since Romney has more versatility and leeway to travel all over the 48 states without there being ethics charges thrown or backlash at home.

Sarah would have come in the game with the same preparation she had when she was VP only with the fact that she finished one term as gov of alaska.

The governorship of alaska title didn't get her much in 08 nor will it get her much in 012. Her being in the governorship with a whole media, blogosphere, political party and legislature waiting for her to messup is a drag if she ever wants to brush up on her policy, organize coffers, and start laying out ground turf.

Her leaving the post gives her more flexibility to accomplish other things. Anything can happen now, and this is not the end for Sarah.

[Winehole23]

Eh, (redacted)

[MannyIsGod]

And her leaving her post also brings up the question of whether or not she's able to finish what she starts, especially when she quits under the guise of "they were too mean".

[gtownspur]

Now people like OpposableThumbsInFeetisGod and others have the right to poo in this thread, Since Sarah is not a threat as they say, i wonder why everytime she's brought up the opposition bumps this thread to 10 + pages.

We never saw this phenomenae with Edwards. LOL!

[ChumpDumper]

She's probably the biggest threat to the Democrats, as much as that means. This move could work for or against her though.

[gtownspur]

And her leaving her post also brings up the question of whether or not she's able to finish what she starts, especially when she quits under the guise of "they were too mean". The good thing about that is she has 3 years to change perceptions about that attack or just let sting die of slowly. It's not a deathknell, anything can happen now till 012. Obama can also screw the pooch so badly this is all nill.

[whottt]

You trying to marginalize the opinion of people in here based upon who they would have voted for if fucking laughable.

Actually it's a pretty accurate statement. Those that were never inclined to vote for her and frequently referred to her as, "this stupid bitch" are totally fucking ignorant on her appeal in the first place. Completely threatened...or the lapdog of those that are.



Only people that would have voted for her are able to have informed opinions on what her future may be.

Pretty much the, "stipid bitch" segment of the board are worthless opinions on the issue, which is pretty much every liberal leaning poster in this thread under the age of 30 and a couple of unusually dense fucktards that might as well be. Without a doubt.




And the thought of you ever being objective with anything having to do with Palin is beyond laughable.

Whether or not you think I'm objective doesn't matter much, I am someone who would vote for her, like most of the people that are willing to vote for her are. It's really not that big of a deal.

[whottt]

And her leaving her post also brings up the question of whether or not she's able to finish what she starts, especially when she quits under the guise of "they were too mean".

I didn't see Barry curing poverty in Chicago before he decided to move up.

[gtownspur]

What people don't get, and i'm not talking about CHumpdumper, i'm talking about the true unbiased, unwashed, middle of the road voters like Manny and Winehole23, is that no one under the scrutiny of the office of Governroship of Alaska can raise a PAC, tour the states and fight the legislature with a media fixated on drowning her.

I don't see anyone doing that. What she did, if she wants to run in 012 is a risky move, that comes with consequences.

Like i said, she can come into the game in 012 with little knowledge on policy and a complete term for ALaska, which wont get her didly squat.

Or she can come to 012, ready with the money and power, support, and improved policy knowledge.

She can also claim the positives for the alaska pipeline if all that goes well.

She's playing the cards she's dealt with.

[whottt]

After your prediction making last fall Whottt, if anyone's opinion in this thread should be marginalized its you.

Totally disagree, the fact that I was wrong about that greatly increases my chances of being right the next time.

[MannyIsGod]

Obviously the number of pages in Spurstalk threads can be directly corolated to a candidates chances to win. Good call, Gtown.

[gtownspur]

Obviously the number of pages in Spurstalk threads can be directly corolated how much of a threat Sarah is to Democrats. Good call, Gtown.

fify

[Winehole23]

unbiased, unwashed:rollin

[MannyIsGod]

Well, I'll give you that she's the biggest threat right now from the GOP. Thats not saying much.

[Winehole23]

no one under the scrutiny of the office of Governroship of Alaska can raise a PAC, tour the states and fight the legislature with a media fixated on drowning her.Perhaps not. I don't really see how that is an argument for quitting right now.

[boutons_deux]

She's a big threat TO the GOP. I'm looking forward to a macaca/pitbull bitch ticket in 2012. :lol

[gtownspur]

10 + pages or bust!

Well, it wasn't saying much in Jan 21 2009, but now with unemployment at 9.5 % and growing, anything is possible.

[gtownspur]

She's a big threat TO the GOP. I'm looking forward to a macaca/pitbull bitch ticket in 2012. :lol

boutons part deuce part corn, she is a threat to the GOP...contenders.

[jman3000]

Maybe it's just me... but I get a weird vibe every time I hear Greta Van Susteren talk about Palin.

[PixelPusher]

Be sure to watch out for iPods, Manhattan dinner dates and 9/11 conspiracies running for Prez in 2012 also.

[ploto]

I have a hard time buying she is doing this for her family when she had no problem running for VP with an unwed pregnant teenage daughter and a special-needs toddler.

[Marcus Bryant]

If she's really leaving "politics" because she's tired of the shit her family has faced, good. That's been absurd and beyond the pale. If she's just saying that because it sounds good, then don't let the door hit ya.

[SonOfAGun]

I remember thinking after seeing how the media treated her and the money from the book deal...

"I would just leave this country and go back to beautiful Alaska with my millions and be happy."

Millions of dollars, beautiful Alaska, big family, lake house, good-looking...U mad recession ridden america?

[gtownspur]

Be sure to watch out for iPods, Manhattan dinner dates and 9/11 conspiracies running for Prez in 2012 also.


Wow, you were on this thread since 6 pm and it took you 3 + hours to come up with a snarky remark that doesn't pertain to anything.

[gtownspur]

I have a hard time buying she is doing this for her family when she had no problem running for VP with an unwed pregnant teenage daughter and a special-needs toddler.

ploto are you so dense or moronic to where you can't fathom people learning from their mistakes?

I think you're too stupid to be a cynic, so i cancelled that out right away.

[gtownspur]

If she's really leaving "politics" because she's tired of the shit her family has faced, good. That's been absurd and beyond the pale. If she's just saying that because it sounds good, then don't let the door hit ya.

Was that her reason as to why she left or are we accepting false premises and building an explanation out of them?

[whottt]

She said the shots taken at one of her kids had something to do with it...but at no point did she say she had given up her political aspirations.

[jman3000]

She said that people were making mean comments about Trig, her DS son, but I haven't read or seen anything along those lines. The only thing I remember being remotely related to Trig was that the daughter really had the baby... which was 9 months ago...

[whottt]

She said that people were making mean comments about Trig, her DS son, but I haven't read or seen anything along those lines. The only thing I remember being remotely related to Trig was that the daughter really had the baby... which was 9 months ago...

IIRC she made it pretty clear it was local(state) politics.

[jman3000]

Not to sound smug... but I don't think anything about that presser came off as "pretty clear".

[LaMarcus Bryant]

She looks cute, that's got nothing to do with why I like her as a politician though. You guys may vote based on looks...but I do not.

rofl

dude
seriously

rofl instant whottt classic

[LnGrrrR]

Totally disagree, the fact that I was wrong about that greatly increases my chances of being right the next time.

I know whenever I look for advice, the first person I go to is the one that spectacularly failed recently. Because there's no way he can screw it up THAT bad again.

[sabar]

She's the weak link in the GOP and needs to be dumped at the lowest cost possible.

[ploto]

All I know is this:

The new administration is less than 6 months in and this person could have been the Vice President. If something had happened to McCain, today she could be the President of the United States. Scary thought. If she could not handle the past 6 months of her life as it has been, then how on earth could she have ever handled being the VP or President of the US? I think this shows clearly that everyone was right who believed she was not ready or could not handle the job. I love the people making excuses- she can't possibly be a governor and write a book at the same time? Then, she surely can't be President.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Obviously the number of pages in Spurstalk threads can be directly corolated to a candidates chances to win. Good call, Gtown.

coming from the guy that said the "GOP has no fucking hope in the next mid terms." based off a thread in this forum.

you and gtown must be using the same "science"