Now that the 2010 Champion is already in place the real question remains

[21_Blessings]

Can the Lakers win 72? Of course thy won't have a problem steam rolling SA in the playoffs yet again, then curb stomping LeShaq in the finals.

Artest is pretty durable he'll play big minutes which will keep Luke off the court. Kobe already knows how to pace himself.

I'm thinking 72 is in reach if Bynum can avoid flying Kobes at his knee. That way Pau won't have to play 36+ a night like last season.

[Spurs da champs]

Your kidding right? If spurs get a Zaza, Sheed, or Mcdyess spurs back for #5. To be honest artest hasn't been as good the last couple of years. Artest is gonna beat the sh!t out of kobe or kobe is gonna bitch to get him traded ruins team chemistry , no title.

[21_Blessings]

If spurs get a Zaza, Sheed, or Mcdyess spurs back for #5.

:lol :lol :lol

Work on getting out of the first round before even contemplating number 5.

[PBEEZY]

:downspin:

[TheSpursFNRule]

Why does Artest make you so confident? All you Laker fans said the only thing the Lakers have to do is re-sign Ariza and Odom to repeat. Now your overly confident after losing a guy that bailed you the fuck out TWICE in the Denver series and went on huge unprecedented scoring runs in the Magic series. Your such a front running pussy. Have fun reaching 72 with two psycho paths(kobe and artest), a soft big man in Pau, a center who's knees are made of paper fucking mashay and a point guard who couldn't guard another if 100 blow jobs depended on it. Your team is good no doubt, but like most said one of the weaker championship teams in recent years. They weren't tested, Yao was out, KG was out, Ginobili was out. You won in the year of injuries. So go suck another title out of the lakers ass.

[mystargtr34]

I dont think Artest replacing Ariza is a garuantee of making the team better. Or do you add up statistics from each player and base your assessment on that?

[Texas_Ranger]

You're an idiot.

[Spurs da champs]

:lol :lol :lol

Work on getting out of the first round before even contemplating number 5.

Sorry we didn't have the officials help us out.:toast Nuggets would have owned lakers if not for stupid foul calls.

Blair gonna throw gasol down worse then he hasheem.

[21_Blessings]

Artest is perfect for the triangle. Phil Jackson is maybe one of two coaches that can handle Ron. He's capable of playing heavier minutes than Ariza which will keep shit players like Sasha and Luke off the floor.

Ariza was a solid roleplayer but Artest is a beast. In the triangle, next to Kobe and Pau his efficiency will sky rocket negating his biggest weakness while he can focus on being the defensive behemoth he was born to play.

[SpursFan0728]

Can the Lakers win 72? Of course thy won't have a problem steam rolling SA in the playoffs yet again, then curb stomping LeShaq in the finals.

Artest is pretty durable he'll play big minutes which will keep Luke off the court. Kobe already knows how to pace himself.

I'm thinking 72 is in reach if Bynum can avoid flying Kobes at his knee. That way Pau won't have to play 36+ a night like last season.

Buddy it's too earlier to say. The last time lakers beat spurs was without Manu and Rj not to mention that they are now much younger and chasing after a solid big man.

[sonic21]

Can the Lakers win 72?

no, even if you add the postseason games.

[21_Blessings]

Yeah the Lakers are really scared of a one-legged grandpa Manu, a volume shooter that has no idea how to play defense and a short, chubby rookie PF with no ACLs.

Much respect to Timmy. But 2003 was a long time ago.

[SpursFan0728]

Yeah the Lakers are really scared of a one-legged grandpa Manu, a volume shooter that has no idea how to play defense and a short, chubby rookie PF with no ACLs.

Much respect to Timmy. But 2003 was a long time ago.

Man ur an idoit.

[Dominate]

Your posts are terrible, and I'm a Lakers fan.

[Allanon]

Count me in on some 83 win ecstasy. :lol

[Culburn369]

I just want to make the 2010 playoffs and win the last game we play.

There is nothing else.

[holcs50]

Yeah the Lakers are really scared of a one-legged grandpa Manu, a volume shooter that has no idea how to play defense and a short, chubby rookie PF with no ACLs.

Much respect to Timmy. But 2003 was a long time ago.

LMAO at manu being a volume shooter and no defense. HHAHHHAHAHAH, i know ur fuckin around but thank you for that. And blair played with those no ACLs all through college, yea he did shitty :lmao

[MarHill]

:lol :lol :lol

Work on getting out of the first round before even contemplating number 5.

Again, some people don't like to tell the entire story!!

The Spurs lost in the first round for the first time in 9 years. The Lakers lost in the first round in 2005, 2006, and 2007.

It happens to every good team once awhile.

I will take that ratio once in nine years.....

Don't forget the context when you are making a point!!

[Harry Callahan]

21 Douchebags - the front running fool who disappears at the first sign of trouble - kind of like Ron Artest, the TO of basketball. Just remember Mr. "Backdoor F'n Sweep" who disappeared from ST for months after last years implosion by the Lakers -

Ron Ron is a glorified role player who destroys offensive motion time and time again. Did you watch the playoff games where he just started hoisting threes too early in the offense set?

Kobe is one year younger than Manu - his skills will diminish very soon. Maybe he breaks down in a few years, but the combination of being 31 years old with an extra 3-4 years of NBA mileage on his legs. Kobe could break down in 2-3 years or 2-3 months at this point in his career.

King Phillip is in such bad shape physically he MAY have only one year of coaching left in him. Chaos ensues when PJ hangs em up because the new coach will be afraid of offending Kobe and getting thrown under the bus.

21 Douchebags will be shedding Derek Fisher tears (Spurs fans know what I'm talking about) very soon. And he'll disappear again.

[Culburn369]

Well, two of those years we were summarily "smushed." Oh, it was just awful. You'll never know the pain.

[Culburn369]

21 Douchebags will be shedding Derek Fisher tears (Spurs fans know what I'm talking about) very soon.

Christ, will you Spurs fans ever just let that .4 Event go? It's over already. And in the end we didn't get the ring that year. Sure, you didn't either, and sure we got four rings in the decade, but, this continuous self flaggelation you guys do over this .4 Fiasco is just pitiful.

[deL!]

:lol :lol :lol

Work on getting out of the first round before even contemplating number 5.

lmfao you make it sound like the Spurs have never made it out the first round.

This is pretty sad lol. Please someone tell me this is a troll!

[Harry Callahan]

Christ, will you Spurs fans ever just let that .4 Event go? It's over already. And in the end we didn't get the ring that year. Sure, you didn't either, and sure we got four rings in the decade, but, this continuous self flaggelation you guys do over this .4 Fiasco is just pitiful.

Hey, 89 post moron. I was not talking about the .4 thing. Please watch game six of the 2003 Western Conference semis with about two minutes left in the game. Damn. so many Laker fans are uneducated and probably a bunch a teenaged fools. If only they would all crawl back under the rocks like they did from 2004 to 2007things would be better around here.

At least we can provide the public service of educating Laker "fans" when its needed.

[MarHill]

Well, two of those years we were summarily "smushed." Oh, it was just awful. You'll never know the pain.


I get that.....

But it happens!

I just like context when someone is making a point.

21-Blessings makes seem like the Spurs have never got out of the first round like the Nuggets finally did this year.

You have to tell the entire story...not just the part you want to slam your opponent with!

:lol

[DMX7]

Can the Lakers win 72? Of course thy won't have a problem steam rolling SA in the playoffs yet again, then curb stomping LeShaq in the finals.

Artest is pretty durable he'll play big minutes which will keep Luke off the court. Kobe already knows how to pace himself.

I'm thinking 72 is in reach if Bynum can avoid flying Kobes at his knee. That way Pau won't have to play 36+ a night like last season.

That's if Artest doesn't punchout a fan in the stands and then gets a season long suspension.

[Culburn369]

Hey, 89 post moron. I was not talking about the .4 thing.

Oops. Sorry dude.

Love always,

- 90 post moron

[urunobili]

:lol failing hard again... Artest will destroy that team's chemistry...

[21_Blessings]

Christ, will you Spurs fans ever just let that .4 Event go? It's over already. And in the end we didn't get the ring that year. Sure, you didn't either, and sure we got four rings in the decade, but, this continuous self flaggelation you guys do over this .4 Fiasco is just pitiful.

Spurs fan never lets shit go. Instead they continuously whine, spouting boring excuses about their team's past failure when facing the Lakers in the playoffs. I guess it's that insecurity about how their team will never be looked at as a real dynasty since they repeatably failed to repeat as NBA champions.

When history looks back, they'll remember Shaq and Kobe. The three-peat and the reemergence of yet another Lakers dynasty. No one will care about San Antonio's fluke titles during a few LAL down years. Your Team of the Decade, the Los Angeles Lakers.

[Harry Callahan]

Oops. Sorry dude.

Love always,

- 90 post moron

No problem. I erased that thing you mentioned from my memory banks long ago.

Good luck getting to post 100. You get a prize. Actually you don't.

[Culburn369]

Spurs fan never lets shit go. Instead they continuously whine, spouting boring excuses about their team's past failure when facing the Lakers in the playoffs. I guess it's that insecurity about how their team will never be looked at as a real dynasty since they repeatably failed to repeat as NBA champions.

When history looks back, they'll remember Shaq and Kobe. The three-peat and the reemergence of yet another Lakers dynasty. No one will care about San Antonio's fluke titles during a few LAL down years. Your Team of the Decade, the Los Angeles Lakers.

Spot on by Blessings here, with the "insecurity" aspect being acute.

[MarHill]

Spurs fan never lets shit go. Instead they continuously whine, spouting boring excuses about their team's past failure when facing the Lakers in the playoffs. I guess it's that insecurity about how their team will never be looked at as a real dynasty since they repeatably failed to repeat as NBA champions.

When history looks back, they'll remember Shaq and Kobe. The three-peat and the reemergence of yet another Lakers dynasty. No one will care about San Antonio's fluke titles during a few LAL down years. Your Team of the Decade, the Los Angeles Lakers.

Again, 21_Blessings,

Like most fans (including Spurs fans)...you don't tell the whole story.

When an organzation has won 4 titles in the last 10 years they are not fluke titles. You can say the Miami Heat championship in 2006...was a more of a fluke.

The Spurs have won the most games in the regular season in this decade and made playoffs in 12 straight years. Only getting knock out of the first round twice.

The Lakers were knocked out the first round three times.

Both teams have an argument for team of the decade. Again....I know you are blinded by your purple-and-gold sunglasses......but to have both teams can make a legit argument about the team of the decade and it shows there's no fluke from the Spurs end of the equation.

I respect the Lakers success.....and history will show the Spurs being one of the best during this era and TD will go down as one of the greatest PF to ever play basketball!!

Let's have some context....please!!:lol

[MarHill]

Spot on by Blessings here, with the "insecurity" aspect being acute.

Actually.....this Spurs fan is not insecure by winning not back-to-back titles.

The Spurs have won 3 of the last 6 titles. They are multiple champions no matter how you put it.

I actually think that argument is silly!!

If the only comeback is the Spurs haven't won their titles in a row.....I just laugh!!!

Those titles in 03, 05, and 07 count just like the Lakers titles in 00,01,02!!

If winning championships were so easy.....the Lakers would all the titles in this decade. Hmmm.....it been seven years since the Lakers won a championship. I bet Kobe will cherish all four of his rings even though he didn't get four in a row.

Again..people don't like to tell the whole story!!

[KidCongo]

Cavs added Shaq and will add some wing depth this week. They gunna be hitting 73 after 66 last year.

I'll be throwing a mad party but I'll come on ST and post about how good it was to win 73.

[VivaPopovich]

Can the Lakers win 72? Of course thy won't have a problem steam rolling SA in the playoffs yet again, then curb stomping LeShaq in the finals.

Artest is pretty durable he'll play big minutes which will keep Luke off the court. Kobe already knows how to pace himself.

I'm thinking 72 is in reach if Bynum can avoid flying Kobes at his knee. That way Pau won't have to play 36+ a night like last season.

theoretically adding artest sounds great

in actuality he's bound to blow up and do something stupid. he was isolated in houston. he's going to do something stupid in LA where temptation is everywhere.

laker fans better pray they hold on to phil jackson

[Brazil]

The Spurs with Sheed and RJ will put a 81 wins season.

21_B dumber than House ?

[picnroll]

Can the Lakers win 72? Of course thy won't have a problem steam rolling SA in the playoffs yet again, then curb stomping LeShaq in the finals.

Artest is pretty durable he'll play big minutes which will keep Luke off the court. Kobe already knows how to pace himself.

I'm thinking 72 is in reach if Bynum can avoid flying Kobes at his knee. That way Pau won't have to play 36+ a night like last season.

Is this your copy and paste from the 2003 summer and you changed a couple of names?

[21_Blessings]

Cavs added Shaq and will add some wing depth this week. They gunna be hitting 73 after 66 last year.
.

:lol

Shaq will play about 60 games while giving a piss poor effort and he'll miss all the back to backs. Cavs traded away all their depth.

Again, :lol

[21_Blessings]

Meanwhile, the Lakers won 65 games last season without breaking a sweat. That was with Bynum missing nearly half the season and Luke Walton/Radmanovic starting over 60 games.

[Chieflion]

I would like to hear Rockets fan opinions on Artest's play this season.

[BUMP]

i hate to say this Spur Fans, but you guys have a giant case of Napoleon syndrome, if Dallas can knock you out of the first round with their worst team in years, then your best bet of a series with the Lakers is simply avoiding a sweep

[Chieflion]

i hate to say this Spur Fans, but you guys have a giant case of Napoleon syndrome, if Dallas can knock you out of the first round with their worst team in years, then your best bet of a series with the Lakers is simply avoiding a sweep
Come on, it was also the 2nd worst Spurs team in this decade.

[ambchang]

75 Win Ecstacy!!!!!!!!!!

[DenDen]

Meanwhile, the Lakers won 65 games last season without breaking a sweat. That was with Bynum missing nearly half the season and Luke Walton/Radmanovic starting over 60 games.
Stop mentioning Bynum, he is a product of kobe that's it.

[HORNSWOGGLE]

Spurs fan never lets shit go. Instead they continuously whine, spouting boring excuses about their team's past failure when facing the Lakers in the playoffs. I guess it's that insecurity about how their team will never be looked at as a real dynasty since they repeatably failed to repeat as NBA champions.

When history looks back, they'll remember Shaq and Kobe. The three-peat and the reemergence of yet another Lakers dynasty. No one will care about San Antonio's fluke titles during a few LAL down years. Your Team of the Decade, the Los Angeles Lakers.

maybe some spurs fans wont let it go, but I could care less, it not like the spurs only and only chance at winning a title was ruined by that, they won before and after that, including 2 that went through the lakers

[The_Worlds_finest]

Why are you all bashing this laker fan for being a total idiot????

72 wins is totally possible for this team :lol

Now if he said they were going to go 88-0 I would say he was a total idiot!

I dont see artest and kobe fight on court but I do artest and bynum holding up a 7-11!

[DenDen]

This rocket fan, hope the spurs bitch slap the purple and gold boy lovers.

[Spurtacus]

Can the Lakers win 72? Of course thy won't have a problem steam rolling SA in the playoffs yet again, then curb stomping LeShaq in the finals.

Artest is pretty durable he'll play big minutes which will keep Luke off the court. Kobe already knows how to pace himself.

I'm thinking 72 is in reach if Bynum can avoid flying Kobes at his knee. That way Pau won't have to play 36+ a night like last season.

You really shouldn't listen to your mangina.

[melo061]

Don't to it to em 21, Don't do it :lol

As for the topic, i think it is insight. The lakers just won 65 with Bynum essentially non existent during the season. Add a healthy and improved Bynum+ Ron Artest and the lakers could surpass 72.

[Extra Stout]

Man, 21_Blessings really knows his basketball. Artest is indeed perfect for the triangle. The triangle is designed to emphasize holding the ball out top, letting the shot clock run down to 5 seconds, then putting one's head down and charging into the lane like a bull. That's why they call it the "triangle" -- it refers to the pointy tips of the bull's horns.

[melo061]

Man, 21_Blessings really knows his basketball. Artest is indeed perfect for the triangle. The triangle is designed to emphasize holding the ball out top, letting the shot clock run down to 5 seconds, then putting one's head down and charging into the lane like a bull. That's why they call it the "triangle" -- it refers to the pointy tips of the bull's horns.

He is talking about his skill set.. Artest's skill set is perfect for the triangle.

[21_Blessings]

He is talking about his skill set.. Artest's skill set is perfect for the triangle.

Yup. Which is why Phil has been after Artest for about 4 years now. Ron also has triangle experience from his Chicago days.

[Indazone]

What you Lakersfans don't know is that Artest has a bum ankle and he's going to require surgery on it. You guys bought a lemon.

[21_Blessings]

What Rocketsfans don't know is that Ariza has a predisposition in his foot that allows it to break easier than normal. It's part of the reason Orlando was so willing to trade him in the first place.

[Muser]

This thread is funny, so many people biting.

[ElNono]

What Rocketsfans don't know is that Ariza has a predisposition in his foot that allows it to break easier than normal. It's part of the reason Orlando was so willing to trade him in the first place.

LOL @ the Ariza dbagging from Laker fan. He was the more athletic version of Rodman and a better shooter than Kobe 3 days ago.

[Shastafarian]

What Rocketsfans don't know is that Ariza has a predisposition in his foot that allows it to break easier than normal. It's part of the reason Orlando was so willing to trade him in the first place.

What 21_Blessings doesn't know is that Artest has a predisposition to be fucking crazy that allows him to lose his fucking mind during games. It's part of the reason every team he has ever played for was so willing to let him go in the first place.

[Culburn369]

Yao & Ariza each with dire foot problems.

Oh, well, saylarvee.

[Muser]

I will add to the discussion though.

Didn't losing a important role player, then signing some amazing FA players = a title in 04? Just sayin'...

[ballhog]

Who's going to be holding the ball for most of the shot clock......Kobe or Ron?

[ulosturedge]

This thread is funny, so many people biting.

[Killakobe81]

Look nothing is promised and I could care less about 72 I want the last 16 ...I dont know if we can 3-peat but a back2back is DEFINITELY possible ...
I love how Artest says that Kobe is STILL hungry and for you guys saying we are one of the weakest Champs ...ok ...whatever.
For the nerd heads let's not forget that Hollinger have them ranked in the top 10 (i hate Hollinger but many here quote PER and cling to Kobe's FG%)
Over 2 years we went to back to back Finals have lost only 7 games in each one with one title to show for it. Back to back HCA in the playoffs and the 2nd best record both years ...
We were the team to beat BEFORE Artest and will continue to be so ...
Ariza was agreat fit as a role player but where Artest helps ...when kobe or Gasol sits we still have a top notch defender and versatile scorer to pair with our bench ...

You gusy better pray Sasha doesnt find his jumper .(o for the Finals?) because we won it with nada from him and and 80% Bynum ..to add to all the post game we have ..wow. If he does I doubt we win 72 ...but a title will be ours aggain ...I love LA!!!

I do think outside consistent outside shooting is a concern we need Sasha to stretch the floor ...

[JamStone]

I think the real question is whether you saw the Nip/Tuck episode where the guy asked for a surgery to make his penis smaller so he wouldn't be able to obsessively suck it all day long.

You should consider such a procedure.

[Ditty]

was this you 21 faggot?


http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/fail-owned-tongue-swelling-fail.jpg?w=500&h=293

[Leetonidas]

Fuck the Lakers. The Spurs are going to shit all over their faces next year, book it.

[Killakobe81]

I think the real question is whether you saw the Nip/Tuck episode where the guy asked for a surgery to make his penis smaller so he wouldn't be able to obsessively suck it all day long.

You should consider such a procedure.

that was funny ...good show didnt get in to it this past season ...though

[peskypesky]

Fuck the Lakers. The Spurs are going to shit all over their faces next year, book it.

:toast

[holcs50]

This thread is funny, so many people biting.

LMAO i know as you can tell by my post on the first page which pretty much laughs at 21. I take nothing 21 shithead or house says seriously, they just try to get a rise out of spurs fans. Pretty much everything they say is well retarded. So I'll continue to :lmao at anything they post, i suggest people do the same

[mingus]

more of these threads .... they just never stop. their should be a sticky for LA fans who want to keep regurgitating (sp?) their sentiments about their team .

[Culburn369]

Phil back next season.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4304612&campaign=rss&source=NBAHeadlines

[Spurs9]

Phil back next season.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4304612&campaign=rss&source=NBAHeadlines
o rly?:sleep

[Culburn369]

[Asked during a SportsCenter appearance Thursday if he believes he'll be playing for Jackson when he reports to Lakers training camp in October, Artest said flatly, "He's my coach."

Artest also told the Los Angeles Times: "I had a great talk [Thursday] with Phil. I'm a huge fan of his and I can't wait to show him what I can do."]

Couple the above with Arty surprising Kobe in the shower with that bar of Lava & I'm stoked.

[SonOfAGun]

:lol :lol :lol

Work on getting out of the first round before even contemplating number 5.

How quick did the lakers go from being first round fodder to champions? lmao

I'm sure the only other Western team to win Rings this decade won't have a problem.

[Kobe™]

Why does Artest make you so confident? All you Laker fans said the only thing the Lakers have to do is re-sign Ariza and Odom to repeat. Now your overly confident after losing a guy that bailed you the fuck out TWICE in the Denver series and went on huge unprecedented scoring runs in the Magic series. Your such a front running pussy. Have fun reaching 72 with two psycho paths(kobe and artest), a soft big man in Pau, a center who's knees are made of paper fucking mashay and a point guard who couldn't guard another if 100 blow jobs depended on it. Your team is good no doubt, but like most said one of the weaker championship teams in recent years. They weren't tested, Yao was out, KG was out, Ginobili was out. You won in the year of injuries. So go suck another title out of the lakers ass.

Why mess with something good? Why not, if you can make it better? Ariza brings LESS to the table than Ron. As much as Ron chucks, Ariza's shot is suspect and most of his shots came from Kobe being double-teamed. They're Wide-open shots. Those same shots Ron has proved he can also make. Ron brings a tough defender who can guard stronger SFs the likes of Pierce, Carmelo, etc. that Ariza had trouble with.

Why make this move?
Because every other team is making changes and you can't just stand pat. Orlando has improved and Cleveland has made changes as well. Look at what happened to Boston after they won their championship. They thought they could coast to the Finals. Making minor changes, and an upgrade at that, can give a new focus to the team.

Artest willing to take a paycut to win shows me he really wants to help bring another championship to L.A.

:lobt:

[Banzai]

uh oh...is there going to be another 75 win ecstasy prediction shit?

[R4R]

I would like to hear Rockets fan opinions on Artest's play this season.


Toughness, occasional miracle shot, lots of poor decision making regarding shots, but very nice postgame inteviews ;)

Great defense but sometimes the occasional Kobe goes off on him..

[Allanon]

uh oh...is there going to be another 75 win ecstasy prediction shit?

Stop stealing my material. I'm the only Lakerfan with rights to "75 win ecstasy".

I'm upping the ante to "83 win Ecstasy" this year and working on a new sig already :lol

[Ghazi]

I highly doubt Artest will destroy team chemistry. When is the last time he's even really did that?

That's just wishful thinking on behalf of whoever says it will happen.