Slovenian National Team (part V.)

[10-tka]

So? Shall we start the thread as always?
EC in Poland? Medal or :bang?!
Vujacic yes, Rasho no..

Preldzic:ihit

[Kamnik]

I don't fell extremley optimistic if I am honest...



Our froncourt is really good and with good depth

Our only capable wing player is Nachbar, but he can only play so much minutes... Jagodnik is done and he even wasn't such a great player even in his prime.

As for our backcourt, I don't have too much faith in any of them except Dragič.

But it is very likely I will drive to Polan with my friend for the first 3 games... It will be a blast! If our guys are winning even more so! :)

[Texas_Ranger]

Our team is pretty good...But I really miss Rasho.

The roster's OK, but we would really need another SF, now that Pleldzic is out. 3 players need to go away, cause on the Euro Championship there can only be 12 players on the team.

PG:
Goran Dragič - Phoenix Suns (USA)
Beno Udrih - Sacramento Kings (USA)
Jaka Lakovič - Barcelona (SPA)

SG:
Domen Lorbek - Benetton (ITA)
Jaka Klobučar - Union Olimpija (SLO)
Saša Vujačič - LA Lakers (USA)
Samo Udrih - Estudiantes Madrid (SPA)

SF:
Goran Jagodnik - Nymburg (CZE)
Boštjan Nachbar - Dinamo Moscow (RUS)

PF:
Matjaž Smodiš - CSKA Moscow (RUS)
Uroš Slokar - GMAC Bologna (ITA)
Gašper Vidmar - Fenerbahce Ülker (TUR)

C:
Primož Brezec - Roma (ITA)
Erazem Lorbek - CSKA Moscow (RUS)
Mirza Begič - Union Olimpija (SLO)

Reserves:
Sašo Ožbolt - Union Olimpija (SLO)
Miha Zupan - Union Olimpija (SLO)

I'm mad that there is no Nebojša Joksimovič on the roster, and it sucks that Bečirovič is injured. I gues that the 3 guys that will leave the roster will be : Klobučar, S.Udrih and Begič. I at least hope so. I also think that we will win every game in the 1st round and then lose to some shitty team, just like always... And then I hope that Zdovc will be fired and that we will get a better coach that's not from Slovenia. But lets hope I'm wrong and the Slovenians will be in the top 3!

[angel_luv]

Hooray! I love this time of year!

Dajmo Slovenija! :D

[angel_luv]

Saso Ozbolt is on the team this year? Awesome! :)

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

They have Dragic that's all that matters.

[Texas_Ranger]

Saso Ozbolt is on the team this year? Awesome! :)

He's with the reserves... But I read somewhere that he doesn't want to play this year on the Euro champ., so he's like 99% out.

[angel_luv]

He's with the reserves... But I read somewhere that he doesn't want to play this year on the Euro champ., so he's like 99% out.

Boo!

Saso is my friend on myspace and facebook but I haven't interacted with him in ages.
I was really hoping to see him play this time.

[Kamnik]

Ozbolt is completley broken down from a series of injuries he had the last couple of years.

[Bukefal]

Slovenia with Serbia and Spain? I guess that's a quick exit in the first round for them. Unfortunatelly, since I like Slovenia more than Serbs, but it's a tough one. Any of you Braca Slovenians actually going to Poland? Ill be there, in Poznan!!

We're playing Greece, Croatia and Israel. Greece will be very tough, but since its Greece, our worst enemies, I think we can pull it off, just with the motivation and spirit instead of quality. That will be a huge fight. The battle of Chaeronea all over again ;)

Well good luck to you :toast

[Texas_Ranger]

There's Serbia, Spain and Great Britain in our grop. 3 teams go in the seond round. Slovenia should win Serbia and G.B. I also think that we'll win Spain, cause we are like the best first round team... We can win Italy, France, Greece,... in the first round, and then we always lose in the second round to someone like fucking Israel. It was always like this, so I gues it will hapen again.

[ata]

GB with Ben Gordon...

[Kamnik]

Slovenia with Serbia and Spain? I guess that's a quick exit in the first round for them. Unfortunatelly, since I like Slovenia more than Serbs, but it's a tough one. Any of you Braca Slovenians actually going to Poland? Ill be there, in Poznan!!

We're playing Greece, Croatia and Israel. Greece will be very tough, but since its Greece, our worst enemies, I think we can pull it off, just with the motivation and spirit instead of quality. That will be a huge fight. The battle of Chaeronea all over again ;)

Well good luck to you :toast

I will probably be in Warsaw! :)

[tso & lo Cavfanatic]

You had a good team two years ago but...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRBAGbodVpw&feature=related

[Kamnik]

You had a good team two years ago but...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRBAGbodVpw&feature=related

:ihit

[10-tka]

Begic is out (due to the injuries, yeah right!!!!!) Golemac is in!

[IronMexican]

Sasha Vujacic is a fagot.

[sendman]

Sasha Vujacic is a fagot.
Do you love him?

[dallaskd]

Sasha Vujacic is a fagot.

:tu

[sendman]

Begic is out (due to the injuries, yeah right!!!!!) Golemac is in!
We have a bunch of big guys, so Golemac is much better option.
Not bad at all.

[Texas_Ranger]

Begic is out (due to the injuries, yeah right!!!!!) Golemac is in!

This days everyone wants to play for Bosnia I gues. :hat

Begič also sucks, so does Golemac... I don't expect him make the 12-man roster. So :wgaf:

[10-tka]

http://www.kzs-zveza.si/kzs/novice/prva_stran/2791.jpg

[angel_luv]

Cute pic. :)

[10-tka]

ok here we go
first pics of pre-camp physical testing of a players

http://www.kzs-zveza.si/kzs/index.php?x=11&galerija=550

http://www.kzs-zveza.si/kzs/index.php?x=11&stran=1&galerija=552

Vujacicr and Nachbar should be joining NT today. NT will start unofficially on barbecue tomorrow afternoon and then they go to training camp at Rogla.

[urunobili]

I like Slovenia... sad Rasho won't be with them...

[10-tka]

no, not at court
he will be our biggest supporter

another gallery (with google translate :) )
http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=sl&js=y&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rtvslo.si%2Fsport%2Fkosarka%2Ff oto-pred-piknikom-na-kolo-in-tekasko-stezo%2F208132&sl=sl&tl=en&history_state0=

[velik_m]

I'm thinking loss against GB, win against Serbia, loss against Spain and an early trip home.

[velik_m]

Prep games:
2. august 2009, 20.00 - LIVE ON ŠPORT TV
SLOVENIA : MACEDONIA
Trbovlje, športna dvorana Polaj

3. august 2009, 20.00 - LIVE ON TV SLOVENIJA 2
SLOVENIA : MACEDONIA
Domžale, dvorana Komunalnega centra

9. august 2009, 20.00 - LIVE ON TV SLOVENIJA 2
SLOVENIA : RUSSIA
Ljubljana, dvorana Tivoli

10. august 2009, 20.00 - LIVE ON ŠPORT TV
SLOVENIA : RUSSIA
Novo mesto, dvorana Leona Štuklja

15. august 2009
SLOVENIA : CROATIA- LIVE ON ŠPORT TV
Poreč, dvorana Žatika

16. august 2009
SLOVENIA : CROATIA
Poreč, dvorana Žatika

19. august 2009, 18.15 - LIVE ON TV SLOVENIJA 2
SLOVENIA : LITHUANIA
Sevilla, Palacio Municipal de Deportes San Pablo

20. august 2009, 20.30 - LIVE ON TV SLOVENIJA 2
SPAIN: SLOVENIA
Sevilla, Palacio Municipal de Deportes San Pablo

21. august 2009, 18.15 - LIVE ON TV SLOVENIJA 2
SLOVENIA : GREAT BRITAIN
Sevilla, Palacio Municipal de Deportes San Pablo

28. august 2009, 18.00- LIVE ON TV SLOVENIJA 2
SLOVENIA : BOLGARIA
Maribor, dvorana Tabor

30. august 2009, 20.00 - LIVE ON TV SLOVENIJA 2
SLOVENIA : GREECE
Maribor, dvorana Tabor

2. september 2009, 19.00
GERMANY: SLOVENIA
Bonn, dvorana Telekom Dome

3. september 2009, 19.00
GERMANY: SLOVENIA
Karlsruhe, dvorana Europahalle

[angel_luv]

Dajmo Slovenija! :)

hvala for the updates. I look forward to more. :)

[Darthkiller]

i predict that White magic shuts down Rubio in the final game.

[samikeyp]

Is Samo related to Beno?

Thanks-o.

[Texas_Ranger]

Is Samo related to Beno?

Thanks-o.

they are brothers

[ploto]

Is Samo related to Beno?

Thanks-o.

Samo is his older brother. He actually spent part of a training camp with the Mavericks a few years back, but he is not as good as Beno.

[10-tka]

http://www.dnevnik.si/uploads/image_cache/333db6b50fcef4601afae15b0e1f7b05.jpeg

Do you recognize the large guy?

[velik_m]

http://img.rtvslo.si/_up/upload/2009/07/22/64606367_beno-udrih.jpg

http://img.rtvslo.si/_up/upload/2009/07/22/64606333_lakovic.jpg

http://img.rtvslo.si/_up/upload/2009/07/22/64606369_bostjan-nachbar3.jpg

http://img.rtvslo.si/_up/upload/2009/07/22/64606374_erazem-lorbek2.jpg

http://img.rtvslo.si/_up/upload/2009/07/22/64606421_uros-slokar.jpg

http://img.rtvslo.si/_up/upload/2009/07/22/64606409_sasa-vujacic.jpg

http://img.rtvslo.si/_up/upload/2009/07/22/64606403_primoz-brezec-vlado-nachbar.jpg

Pics from: http://www.rtvslo.si/sport/kosarka/foto-rogla-reprezentanti-prihajajo/208203

[angel_luv]

Awesome pics! :)

It is great to see Beno, Jaka, and Uros. They are my friends on myspace but it has been ages since I have spoken to any of them.

And I am a fan of Boki so great to see him as well.

Who am I kidding? I love the whole team! :)

I miss Sho being on the team.

[velik_m]

http://www.kzs-zveza.si/kzs/foto/testiranje_clanskareprezentanca_1del_20_7_2009/IMG_2249.jpg

http://www.kzs-zveza.si/kzs/foto/testiranje_clanskareprezentanca_1del_20_7_2009/IMG_2251.jpg

More pics from the testing:
http://www.kzs-zveza.si/kzs/index.php?x=11&galerija=550
http://www.kzs-zveza.si/kzs/index.php?x=11&galerija=552

[ploto]

http://img.rtvslo.si/_up/upload/2009/07/22/64606367_beno-udrih.jpg

Man purse and all! He looks in good shape. :tu

[Kamnik]

Man purse and all! He looks in good shape. :tu

:lol

[ata]

Man purse and all! He looks in good shape. :tu
In Slovenia is called fag-bag

[Kamnik]

In Slovenia is called fag-bag

Peder tašna? :=)

[sendman]

Just to irritate the hell out of some of you.
Look at the Sashas watch and other thingies on his wrist:

http://img.rtvslo.si/_up/upload/2009/07/22/64606362_4.jpg

The IRRITATING MACHINE!:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[10-tka]

http://www.kosarka.si/2009/07/23/ep-2009-na-rogli-optimizem-in-odlocnost-foto/

http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=sl&js=y&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.zurnal24.si%2Fsasa-vujacic-intervju-slovenija-ep%2Fsport%2Fkosarka%2F122043&sl=sl&tl=en&history_state0=

[velik_m]

Sponzorship photoshoot:

http://www.kzs-zveza.si/kzs/foto/fotogalerija_repka_2009/big%20boys.jpg

http://www.kzs-zveza.si/kzs/foto/fotogalerija_repka_2009/kobre.jpg

http://www.kzs-zveza.si/kzs/foto/fotogalerija_repka_2009/udriha.jpg

http://www.kzs-zveza.si/kzs/foto/fotogalerija_repka_2009/nachbar.jpg

http://www.kzs-zveza.si/kzs/index.php?x=11&galerija=556

[angel_luv]

Sponzorship photoshoot:

http://www.kzs-zveza.si/kzs/foto/fotogalerija_repka_2009/big%20boys.jpg

http://www.kzs-zveza.si/kzs/foto/fotogalerija_repka_2009/kobre.jpg

http://www.kzs-zveza.si/kzs/foto/fotogalerija_repka_2009/udriha.jpg

http://www.kzs-zveza.si/kzs/foto/fotogalerija_repka_2009/nachbar.jpg

http://www.kzs-zveza.si/kzs/index.php?x=11&galerija=556


:lol Those are cute. :)
The guys were good natured to cooperate with those poses.

[ploto]

It would be nice to see them play together once on a NT, but I doubt it will ever happen. Nice shot for the family album, though.

http://www.kzs-zveza.si/kzs/foto/fotogalerija_repka_2009/udrih2.jpg

[Texas_Ranger]

Sponzorship photoshoot:



http://www.kzs-zveza.si/kzs/foto/fotogalerija_repka_2009/kobre.jpg




There is no Seattle in the NBA!

[velik_m]

The players picked up numbers they will use in prep games:
4 Domen Lorbek (no club) - 198 cm, 6. march 1985
5 Jaka Lakovič (Barcelona) - 186 cm, 9. july 1978
6 Sašo Vujačič (Los Angeles Lakers) - 200 cm, 8. march 1984

7 Primož Brezec (no club) - 216 cm, 2. october 1979
8 Matjaž Smodiš (CSKA Moskva) - 205 cm, 13. december 1979
9 Beno Udrih (Sacramento Kings) - 191 cm, 5. july 1982

10 Boštjan Nachbar (Efes Pilsen) - 206 cm, 3. july 1980
11 Goran Dragić (Phoenix Suns) - 190 cm, 6. may 1986
12 Goran Jagodnik (no club) - 201 cm, 23. may 1974

13 Samo Udrih (Estudiantes Madrid) - 195 cm, 2. august 1979
14 Jurica Golemac (no club) - 208 cm, 29. may 1977
15 Erazem Lorbek (CSKA Moskva) - 210 cm, 21. february 1984

16 Uroš Slokar (no club) - 210 cm, 14. may 1983
17 Jaka Klobučar (Union Olimpija) - 198 cm, 19. august 1987
18 Gašper Vidmar (Fenerbahče Ülker) - 209 cm, 14. september 1987

[TDMVPDPOY]

they got a good team if some of the players pull their heads out of their asses and actually live up to the contracts they signs...

like beno and vujabitch...

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

they got a good team if some of the players pull their heads out of their asses and actually live up to the contracts they signs...

like beno and vujabitch...

Vujacic is good? :downspin::rollin

[angel_luv]

Is Uros in talks with any clubs or nba teams?

[Kobayagi]

Brezec said it's 99% sure, he's going to sign with an NBA team.




Of course he did say plenty of other things during his career that never came true...

[ploto]

8 Matjaž Smodiš

:wow

[ploto]

Brezec said it's 99% sure, he's going to sign with an NBA team.

?Philadelphia


Is Uros in talks with any clubs or nba teams?
I think he has one more year on his deal in Italy.

[angel_luv]

?Philadelphia


I think he has one more year on his deal in Italy.

I am glad Smodis has number 8. I am confident he will represent Rasho's number well.


hvala for the info on Uros. :)

[Kobayagi]

No Luol Deng and no Ben gordon for Britain. Our chances have improved considerably. :toast

[10-tka]

Union Olimpija is also interested in Uros but his agent didn't get any official offer from them.

[Texas_Ranger]

Union Olimpija is also interested in Uros but his agent didn't get any official offer from them.

If he goes to Olimpija he's really stupid.

[Kobayagi]

He's either stupid or he doesn't like to make money and win games.

[angel_luv]

Good luck to the guys in advance since I will be out of town for their first few games.

:cheer :D :cheer
Dajmo Slovenija! :)

[velik_m]

http://img.rtvslo.si/_up/upload/2009/07/31/64608768_sasa-vujacic2.jpg

http://img.rtvslo.si/_up/upload/2009/07/31/64608834_erazem-lorbek-primoz-brezec.jpg

http://img.rtvslo.si/_up/upload/2009/07/31/64608810_uros-slokar.jpg

http://img.rtvslo.si/_up/upload/2009/07/31/64608815_primoz-brezec2.jpg

First prep game tonight 20:00 CET against Macedonia.

[velik_m]

20-15 after 1st quarter.

Starting 5 for slovenia: Lakovic, Smodis, E. Lorbek, Nachbar, Klobucar.

Vujacic and D. Lorbek will not play.

[velik_m]

43-24 at half.

OT: Today is Samo Udrih's 30th birthday

[velik_m]

77:68 Final score.

Slokar 13, Dragic 12, Klobucar 10, Brezec 8...

Stats and play-by-play: http://lb1.mbt.lt/prod/kzs/netcasting/

[Texas_Ranger]

Our team sucked! We should destroyed Macedonia. This was just pathetic. I know Vujabitch and Beaner did not play, but still it was pathetic... Why the fuck did fucking Klobucar play for like 20 minutes. And why did Slokar play just like 8 minutes? I know everyone should get a chance, but if fucking Klobucar makes this team it will be just fucking insane.

[velik_m]

Our team sucked! We should destroyed Macedonia. This was just pathetic. I know Vujabitch and Beaner did not play, but still it was pathetic... Why the fuck did fucking Klobucar play for like 20 minutes. And why did Slokar play just like 8 minutes? I know everyone should get a chance, but if fucking Klobucar makes this team it will be just fucking insane.

Way too early for such reactions. Some of the players haven't played for 3 months. Give them some time, if they don't show much improvement in two weeks time, then by all means - blast away.

[Kobayagi]

Going to the game today. :fro

[Kamnik]

You cant judge too much from 1 game... We need serious opponents so we can mesaure up.

I feel confident going forward if Dragic, Smodis and Lorbek will be our leaders.

[velik_m]

Going to the game today. :fro

:tu i'm thinking of going to the one against Russia on Sunday.

[Kobayagi]

:tu i'm thinking of going to the one against Russia on Sunday.


Got the tickets for that one too. :downspin:


Gotta support the team. :king

[velik_m]

Game starts in a hour. It will be live over internet: http://www.rtvslo.si/play/v-zivo-tv-slovenija-2/tv.slo2/

Edit: The game might be blocked outside of Slovenia. Since it will also be on Eurosport 2.

[velik_m]

Galery from Sunday's game: http://www.kzs-zveza.si/kzs/index.php?x=11&galerija=561

Full stats, play-by-play and other stuff: http://server4.mbt.lt/prod/kzs/index.php/b19sYW5nPWVuJm9fc2Vhcz04Jm9fbGVhZz0xJmZ1c2VhY3Rpb2 49Z2FtZXMubWFpbiZnX2lkPTEzNDc=

Shot chart for Dragic:
http://server4.mbt.lt/prod/kzs/index.php/b19sYW5nPWVuJm9fc2Vhcz04Jm9fbGVhZz0xJmZ1c2VhY3Rpb2 49Z2FtZXMuZHJhdyZnX2lkPTEzNDcmcT0wJnRtPTFfJnBsMT0x MV8mcGwyPSZmaXJzdF90aW1lPTA=

[Texas_Ranger]

Once again this team looks pathetic!:madrun

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

If that roster can't beat Macedonia by about 40 you are in trouble.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

No Luol Deng and no Ben gordon for Britain. Our chances have improved considerably. :toast

WTF? Like Great Britain had a chance to medal anyway.

[velik_m]

Final score: 80:75 (21:21, 21:17, 16:18, 22:19)

Starting 5: Brezec, Smodiš, B. Udrih, D. Lorbek, Klobučar.

Boštjan Nachbar, Saša Vujačič & Goran Dragič did not play.

[sendman]

If that roster can't beat Macedonia by about 40 you are in trouble.
Nah, we like Macedonians, we save that kind of "frying" for that Greek team of yours.:frying:

[Kobayagi]

WTF? Like Great Britain had a chance to medal anyway.

Who's talking about a medal? I meant our chances of getting out of the preliminary groups. :lol


And don't worry about us not beating Macedonia by >40 pts. The'ye like a brother nation to us, so we gotta show we're good hosts.

We're meeting Greece in Maribor in a couple of weeks time, you can talk your smack then. If everything goes well, I'll be at that game too. Do you want me to give kisses to Vaginis on your behalf?

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Who's talking about a medal? I meant our chances of getting out of the preliminary groups. :lol


And don't worry about us not beating Macedonia by >40 pts. The'ye like a brother nation to us, so we gotta show we're good hosts.

We're meeting Greece in Maribor in a couple of weeks time, you can talk your smack then. If everything goes well, I'll be at that game too. Do you want me to give kisses to Vaginis on your behalf?

You can tell Vasili that KBP says hi. He reads the forum often so he knows anyway.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Brezec said it's 99% sure, he's going to sign with an NBA team.




Of course he did say plenty of other things during his career that never came true...

Supposedly it is 76ers.

[ata]

Again very sloppy defense, way too much open shots allowed.

[Pero]

LOL, Kobayagi you really should try to ask V-Spam if he knows this forum and KBP. :D

[Kamnik]

When and where are our next games... I will surely go to 1 or 2...

[velik_m]

When and where are our next games... I will surely go to 1 or 2...

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3575518&postcount=28

[ata]

http://www.kzs-zveza.si/kzs/index.php?x=4&xy=2489

[Kamnik]

Hvala!

I'll probably go to tivoli against Russia and I will surely go to Tabor against Greece. Cant wait!

[Kobayagi]

LOL, Kobayagi you really should try to ask V-Spam if he knows this forum and KBP. :D

:lol

Picture this

Me: Hey, Vasili, KBP says Hi.
V-Span: Who?
Me: You know...Kill Bill Pana, your biggest fan.
V-Span: Kill Bill What?
Me: You know..that guy from Clutchfans and Spurstalk and all other basketball message boards.
V-Span: You mean the fake Greek guy that's solely responsible for the fact I get booed everytime I'm in the States? You know his real name? My lawyer wants to have a word with him.

[Kobayagi]

A couple of my opinions after two games against Macedonia:

-Slokar deserves more minutes
-Klobucar deserves less minutes (or none)
-D. Lorbek is on the team? Really? (yeah, I know he's supposed to be a defensive specialist but still)
-We have no small forwards. Boki sucked in the 1st game and didn't play in the 2nd. His sub is a 35-year old veteran that shouldn't be on the team in the first place.
Beno >>> Lakovic (Didn't want to believe that but it's true and I hate to admit it). Beno is in great shape, he looks lean and rested.
I'm mad I didn't get to see Sasha play yet, hopefully he'll be OK for our next game.


I really had to take this photo. This jersey is a rarity and it's going to be a real collector's item. :lol Costs 50 euros. Any Lakers fans here that want it? :lol

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/5986/dsc00542wgm.jpg

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

:lol

Picture this

Me: Hey, Vasili, KBP says Hi.
V-Span: Who?
Me: You know...Kill Bill Pana, your biggest fan.
V-Span: Kill Bill What?
Me: You know..that guy from Clutchfans and Spurstalk and all other basketball message boards.
V-Span: You mean the fake Greek guy that's solely responsible for the fact I get booed everytime I'm in the States? You know his real name? My lawyer wants to have a word with him.

Bull shit. Zisis and Spanoulis are two nicest pro athletes around. They will never bad mouth their fans.

[ploto]

Beno looks good. Hope for once he makes it through a whole summer with the NT.

[spursfan1000]

Rasho is the man :lol

[ploto]

The 76ers have reached an agreement in principle to sign veteran center Primoz Brezec, according to multiple sources.

The deal is supposedly for one year at the minimum for a player with seven seasons of service in the NBA.

The 7-1 Brezec, 29, is expected to come to Philadelphia sometime next week. He is currently playing with the Slovenian National Team.

Brezec spent last season in Italy after logging time with the Indiana Pacers, the Charlotte Bobcats, the Detroit Pistons and the Toronto Raptors.

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sixerville/Sixers_Adding_Brezec.html

[ata]

@Kobayagi
- Slokar - agree
- Klobučar is potential - he will be cut, but his minutes are investment for future
- D. Lorber - remember 3 years ago, he was able to play 3, and he wasn't bad
- 3 is our weakest position for years now (I remember times when we have problems with 4-5). Boki and Jagoda are only legit 3s avaliable. If one of them get injury Vujačič or D. Lorbek will be moved to 3.
- Beno is always superstar in pre-season/preparation games - he still has to show what he can do when it matters.

@ploto: great. Brezec will be 2nd Slovenian to play (sign) for 76ers

[Kamnik]

Good news about Beno I guess. But as you guys said, he has to show it when it matters. And he is not too known for that! :P

[Texas_Ranger]

The 76ers have reached an agreement in principle to sign veteran center Primoz Brezec, according to multiple sources.

The deal is supposedly for one year at the minimum for a player with seven seasons of service in the NBA.

The 7-1 Brezec, 29, is expected to come to Philadelphia sometime next week. He is currently playing with the Slovenian National Team.

Brezec spent last season in Italy after logging time with the Indiana Pacers, the Charlotte Bobcats, the Detroit Pistons and the Toronto Raptors.

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sixerville/Sixers_Adding_Brezec.html

The 76ers fans are very happy!:lol

[Texas_Ranger]

Slovenia really sucked this 2 games. I know it are just friendly games and that even players like Klobučar need to play around 20+ minutes, and Sasha did not play 2 games, Beno, Goran and Nachbar 1, but still it sucks to win Macedonia by just 5 points. Our team should at least defeat them by 10.

I'm really disappointed with Jaka Lakovič, D.Lorbek, Samo Udrih. Even Nachbar was pretty bad.
I'm also disappointed with Zdovc and his roster moves. Slokar looks very good, but he still playes just 15 minutes, not to mention the first game when he was out there for just 8 minutes and scored Slo. game high 13 points. But it's ok so far, cause we all know Zdovc needs to experiment a little bit with the team lineups.
Then I'm pretty happy with Golemac, who I thought sucks. He should not shoot 3 pointers, but overall he's good.
Jagodnik is a disaster. Even I could play better that him, but we really do not have a reserve SF, so I gues he'll stay with the team. I just hope he'll not play for 20 minutes a game.Then we're screwed.
Klobučar is one of those who we all think will leave the team, but the guy has played better than S.Udrih and D.Lorbek.
Brezec is solid so far. But lets all hope he won't start bitching around, about him not starting and that he can't get hot if he doesn't play from the start.
Lakovič should not start, he can't hit shit!!
The team also plays alot outside the paint. It looks like every shot is a jumshot. Even Brezec is shooting 3 pointers. So I'd like that we play a little bit more inside the paint.
The guys that will leave the roster will probably be Vidmar, Klobučar and S.Udrih. If Klobučar plays good in the next games and D.Lorbek will still suck, he should be the one who'll have to go away.

The lineup in my opinion should be:
C - E.Lorbek...Brezec
F - Smodiš...Slokar...Golemac
F - Nachbar...Jagodnik/Golemac
G - Vujačič...Dragič...Klobučar
G - Udrih...Lakovič

[angel_luv]

I was wishing the team well from Vegas this past weekend. I look forward to more updates. :)

[angel_luv]

I am glad to hear that Beno is doing well.

Awesome also about Brezec being back in the NBA.

:)

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

The 76ers fans are very happy!:lol

Once again KBP was proven right.

[Kobayagi]

Lakovič should not start, he can't hit shit!!


I couldn't care less if he hits shit or not. The thing that troubles me with him, is that he can't get the other guys hot. He's a point guard, he should call plays, dish the assists etc...he's not doing any of those things.

I don't know the stats from the one game Beno played, but I'm pretty sure he had a double-double.

[sendman]

Lakovic is what he is...an SG trapped in PGs body. I woud cut him, or use him only in limited role as a back up SG. But I'm not sure that he would be satisfied with that role.

On the other hand, he was always there for Slovenian NT, he never refused an invitation, he has never let his teammates down. That should count for something too, I guess.

I would also cut Jagodnik. His time has passed. Let Golemac and D. Lorbek (we'll need him in the future) do a back up job for Nachbar.

We also don't need Vidmar (his position is clogged with good players) and S. Udrih (plenty of better choices at his position).
Klobucar should stay (as a third stringer at SG). He is still young and wouldn't rock the boat if there will be no playing time for him.

Starting 5 should be:

PG Udrih B
SG Vujacic
SF Nachbar
PF Smodis
C Lorbek E.

Backups:

PG Dragic
SG Lakovic
SF Golemac
PF Slokar
C Brezec

Third string:
D. Lorbek
Klobucar

It's nice to have a bunch of players that are capable of playing at at least two positions:clap

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Lakovic is what he is...an SG trapped in PGs body. I woud cut him, or use him only in limited role as a back up SG. But I'm not sure that he would be satisfied with that role.

On the other hand, he was always there for Slovenian NT, he never refused an invitation, he has never let his teammates down. That should count for something too, I guess.

I would also cut Jagodnik. His time has passed. Let Golemac and D. Lorbek (we'll need him in the future) do a back up job for Nachbar.

We also don't need Vidmar (his position is clogged with good players) and S. Udrih (plenty of better choices at his position).
Klobucar should stay (as a third stringer at SG). He is still young and wouldn't rock the boat if there will be no playing time for him.

Starting 5 should be:

PG Udrih B
SG Vujacic
SF Nachbar
PF Smodis
C Lorbek E.

Backups:

PG Dragic
SG Lakovic
SF Golemac
PF Slokar
C Brezec

Third string:
D. Lorbek
Klobucar

It's nice to have a bunch of players that are capable of playing at at least two positions:clap

Golemac is underrated player.

[sendman]

It looks like Vujacic is done. Knee injury that kept him from playing first two praparation games is getting worst.

I blame Phil Jackson for this one. Sasha played way to much this season.
Damn you Phil! :lmao

[Texas_Ranger]

It looks like Vujacic is done. Knee injury that kept him from playing first two praparation games is getting worst.

I blame Phil Jackson for this one. Sasha played way to much this season.
Damn you Phil! :lmao


Fuck...And right now whe he wanted to play for the national team...Just Fuck!!
Lets hope Klobučar will play like a superstar!!:blah

[Kamnik]

To be honest... I won't miss Vujacic too much as I don't think he would bring a lot to the team. His best asset would probably be defense... but I can live with Dragic playing the defensive 2.

Vujacic is shooting worse and worse for the last 2 years. Why the hell would he all the suddenly be a sharpshooter? Check out his stats...

Furthermore we all know he is a superstar wannabe diva. That surely can't be good for the team atmosphere... I can't see how he and Smodis could get along very good. They are like day and night.

Udrih, Dragic, Nachbar, Smodis, Lorbek is a DAMN solid starting 5. Our bench is not too good but hell... Anything is possbile if these 5 all play to their capabilites. Udrih and Dragic could be a great combo imo.

[sendman]

Udrih and Dragic could be a great combo imo.
I'm not that sure about that. They both are leftys and they are offensively more successful on the left side of the court. They would get in the way of each other. Also they have the same weaknesses at shooting from the distance, especially Dragic.

Now I really miss Becirovic or Ozbolt. :depressed

[velik_m]

Vujacic is shooting worse and worse for the last 2 years. Why the hell would he all the suddenly be a sharpshooter? Check out his stats...

Maybe, but he is still our best shooter + FIBA 3 pointer is a lot closer. Great, now i miss Sani :pctoss

[Kamnik]

Maybe, but he is still our best shooter + FIBA 3 pointer is a lot closer. Great, now i miss Sani :pctoss

Being the best among bad shooters doesn't really mean much... :toast

And if I am honest I prefer Smoki shooting for 3 than Vujacic.

[velik_m]

And if I am honest I prefer Smoki shooting for 3 than Vujacic.

So who will be under the boards fighting for offensive rebound? Lakovic? Dragic? I don't mind a big with the stroke, but for the most part centers should be where they are most useful - under the basket.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Once again KBP was proven right

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/20090806_Sixers_won_t_re-sign_Marshall.html

Like I said Brezec to Sixers.

[velik_m]

Got tickets for Sunday's game :ihit :downspin:

[Kamnik]

Got tickets for Sunday's game :ihit :downspin:

Me too! :downspin::downspin::downspin:

[angel_luv]

Have fun! Take notes. :)

[Kobayagi]

Take notes. :)

You should've said "take pics".


But now, I won't. :depressed







:downspin:

[angel_luv]

You should've said "take pics".


But now, I won't. :depressed







:downspin:

Well, a picture is worth a thousand words... :) So give me at least a 10,000 word report in whatever manner you best see fit. :)

[Bukefal]

Who does Slovenia play on sunday? We (Macedonia) lost twice to you. Tonight we play against Slovakia. The NT is here in my town, I was at their training and also former Spur, Darius Washington joined the squad. I got a photo with him and I asked him how he felt playing for Macedonia. He is a good player, too bad it didnt work out in the NBA at the tryouts this summer.

[velik_m]

Who does Slovenia play on sunday?

Russia.

[Kobayagi]

I asked him how he felt playing for Macedonia.

How do you guys feel about him playing for Macedonia? :lol

[Kamnik]

Well, a picture is worth a thousand words... :) So give me at least a 10,000 word report in whatever manner you best see fit. :)

Hmmm, maybe I will borrow my brother's camera and take some pics just for you ;)

Depending on his good will :toast

[angel_luv]

Hmmm, maybe I will borrow my brother's camera and take some pics just for you ;)

Depending on his good will :toast

hvala lepa. :)

[velik_m]

The game will be live over internet: http://www.rtvslo.si/play/v-zivo-tv-slovenija-2/tv.slo2/ at 20h CET.

There might be live scoring here: http://lb1.mbt.lt/prod/kzs/netcasting/

[velik_m]

Here are some photos from yesterday's practice which was open for fans:

Beno & Erazem:
http://www.kzs-zveza.si/kzs/foto/Dan_odprtih_vrat_2009/ALFX9434.JPG

Goran & Jaka:
http://www.kzs-zveza.si/kzs/foto/Dan_odprtih_vrat_2009/ALFX9399.JPG

Beno & some random dude:
http://www.kzs-zveza.si/kzs/foto/Dan_odprtih_vrat_2009/ALFX9692.JPG

Smoki signing stuff:
http://www.kzs-zveza.si/kzs/foto/Dan_odprtih_vrat_2009/ALFX9762.JPG

Boki ruining a perfectly good t-shirt:
http://www.kzs-zveza.si/kzs/foto/Dan_odprtih_vrat_2009/ALFX9830.JPG

There were about thousand fans there, the players spend about an hour after practice signing autographs.

More pics here (http://www.kzs-zveza.si/kzs/index.php?x=11&galerija=564)

[Kamnik]

Video with pics at the bottom: http://www.rtvslo.si/sport/kosarka/ep-v-kosarki-2009/foto-video-kosarkarji-so-si-na-morju-nabrali-novih-moci/209460

[Texas_Ranger]

There were about thousand fans there, the players spend about an hour after practice signing autographs.


Not really. There were less than 500 people.

[velik_m]

Not really. There were less than 500 people.

I believe you, I wasn't there, i just went by the news on the page of our federation. In slovenia they like to exaggerate when it comes to attendance.

[Texas_Ranger]

I believe you, I wasn't there, i just went by the news on the page of our federation. In slovenia they like to exaggerate when it comes to attendance.

Yea. I know about that that.:toast

[sendman]

Our team doesn't have a clue about playing against the zone defense.

[Texas_Ranger]

I really don't know what are Jagodnik and Klobučar doing in this team.

[ata]

C'mon, do you have any clue about b'ball at all?

Who would you play behind Nachbar? D. Lorbek? + Jagodnik was one of the best players today. He always(!) bring energy to the team.

BTW: Slovenia won 78-62

[Texas_Ranger]

I must say I was wrong about Jagoda. He really played great.
But Klobučar sucks, perhapse D.Lorbek sucks even more.

[velik_m]

2 tickets for a game - 20EUR
A t-shirt of your favourite player - 50EUR.
Watching your team beat the defending european champions into submisson - fucking priceless

[Bukefal]

How do you guys feel about him playing for Macedonia? :lol

Well, great actually, he is a good player. Today Macedonia played second game against Slovakia and won with 101-70. Darius Washington made his debut with 14 points and 4 assists.

[sendman]

Russians are to big for their own good. They miss JR Holden like crazy. Their only real PG Ponkrashov will get targeted by opponents from the get go and they have no one to give him even a breather. They also need SG and they need him bad. Monya was bailing them out for the part of the game, but that wont cut it.
Todays play, with bunch of PFs and Cs getting in each others way, with tragic ball flow, was just pathetic. Also they were out-rebounded by a mile!
I'm very interested to see how will David Platt try to answer this question in tonights rematch.

[Kamnik]

I was at the game with my friends. Unfortunately i couldn't take photos... sorry Angel :p: But there are many here: http://www.rtvslo.si/sport/kosarka/ep-v-kosarki-2009/foto-pred-polnim-tivolijem-ruse-zlomili-v-zadnji-cetrtini/209526

My overral assesment going forward is quite positive from what I have seen today. What I fear most of all is our coach Zdovc and minutes he will give to specific players.

We have possibility to play really good defence (our guard pressure was great at times) with players that understand what it takes.

Offensively we lack some better shooters at our guard positions but hopefully Vujacic will be able to help there. (Vujacic and Udrih didn't play today)




My assesment of individual players:
(p.s. My grades are relative for what is expected from them... something similar to timvp's system)



Erazem Lorbek - He is slowly but surely becoming the best Slovenian player. It is no chance that he landed in CSKA Moscow which is one of the best European clubs. He was dominant offensively. Whenever you saw him caught the ball he did not hesitate and got right to buisness. He seemed confident and motivated.
Only possible he might have going forward is playing against strong and physical players who he won't be able to back down.

Grade: A+



Bostjan Nachbar - He was really agressive offensively. He hit several long range shots and made a couple of good drives to the basket. Defensively he was decent but nothing too special. Made a mistake or two.

Grade: B+



Matjaz Smodis - We only saw him play for a few minutes. Probably our coaching staff wants to see other players play more to decide who to cut and at the same time rest and preserve his body. Our captain and leader on and off the floor. I can't realy grade to well what he did but he was decent.

Grade: B



Goran Jagodnik - The biggest positive surprise of the evening. He fought like a tiger for every ball. He had several hustle plays which made the public go crazy. I am not sure but he probably had something like 3 or 4 offensive rebounds. He also shot the ball well. The bottom point - he made everyone (including me) a believer that his tank isn't empty and deserves to go to Poland.

Grade: A



Goran Dragič - He is our fastest and most explosive player who DESERVES TO START. Whenever he came into play everything worked better and the lead started to grow. Whenever Lakovič was put in I almost started to cry. Dragic is really agressive and strong defensive player (hard to believe he is a Sun :lol ) and a fast break waiting to happen. Offensively his decision making and passing got better from last year. I am really excited about him for this championship and NBA season.

Grade: A



Domen Lorbek - He is a good defensive player who has good fundementals and won't make many mistakes. However he is a limited player offensively. He can't create for himself or others and is best used as a 3 point shooter when other players are double teamed.

Grade: B




Samo Udrih - He didn't show anything except several bad passes that resulted in a turnover. He will probably get cut.

Grade: D



Primož Brezec - Ah... Bad defensive rotations. Clumsy offensive movement. Basically what we usually expect/get from him. However he is a big body and could be useful as an energy guy to get offensive rebounds and putbacks.

Grade: C




Uroš Slokar - He really didn't play a lot so it is hard to grade him. Or maybe I just didn't notice him which means he didn't make big mistakes or any really good moves. He is however probably our third bet big guy behind Smodis and Lorbek. He is also very likeable - a good and funny guy.

Grade: C+




Jurica Golemac - He played a really solid game. He was hustling on both sides of the flor. Played really good defence-it probably helps he is a really long. He reminds of a poor man's Kirilenko. I would like to see him play some backup minutes at positions 3 and 4.

Grade: B+



Jaka Lakovič - This will sound like blasphemy to some of his fans maybe but I wouldn't be sad or surprised if he would get cut. He looked like he is completely done. He is short for a PG with a small frame and with what looks to me below 75 kilos. He basically gets pushed around by opposing players and even smaller bumps seriously affect him. If Zdovc intends this to be a defense focused team Lakovic doesn't have anything to do here.

Offensively he missed shots, made lots of turnovers and the passes that got through didn't result in assists or anything. Both Dragic and Udrih should get all PG minutes. All the flaws that were seen at previus NT competitions are still here just much worse. He is DONE.

Grade: D-


Gašper Vidmar - He didn't play a lot so I couldn't get a good feel for him. Probably he is still pretty raw and not counted on that much.

Grade: No idea...



Jaka klobučar - Defensively he applied some good pressure (as most other guards). But that is pretty much everything he can go really well. Still pretty raw and will probably get cut.




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My dream rotation:

Starting 5:

PG - Dragic
SG - Vujacic (if he is as good as advertised...)
SF - Nachbar
PF - Smodiš
C - E. Lorbek

Backups:

PG - B. Udrih (Lakovic should play only in garvage time or if Udrih or Dragic get injured)
SG - D. Lorbek
SF - Golemac/Jagodnik
PF - Slokar/Golemac
C - Slokar/Brezec


Getting cut:

-Klobucar
-S. Udrih
- Vidmar

I would rather keep Klobucar or Vidmar that Lakovic but if Udrih gets injured as usuall we are fucked at the backup PG position.


My biggest wish: Zdovc not to give any unnecesary minutes to Lakovic!



I hope you liked my analysis and grades... I am writing this at 2:30 am after a long day so it is probably full of mistakes; I apologise about that! :toast

GO SLOVENIA! :flag::flag::flag::flag:

[velik_m]

Some thoughts on game:

From the start it was clear the russians are taller and more athletic. But they really lack a go-to guy. They will miss Holden at the championship. Still they have a solid starting 5 and decent bench and there is still a month till the championship so a lot can change...

But enough about them.

Slovenia:

Team - the offense showed some progress, but defense still has too many holes. The russians were left wide open way too often for my taste. We out-rebounded the russians, mostly because they shot poorly and we controlled the defensive glass. We also had an interesting experiment with pg and four mobile bigs - Erazem, Boki, Jagodnik and Golemac. We didn't put up a zone defense and neither did russians so that is still a question mark on our team on both sides of the court. We tried to pressure the Russians a couple of times but it was a poor pressure and didn't seem to bother them much - will have to work on that.

On to the players:
Smodis - didn't show much, didn't play much. I guess he was saved for today.
E. Lorbek - good showing today. He still loses too much balls going under the basket and he had troubles against taller Kaum on the defensive end, but still very good game from him, with lots of hustle too.
D. Lorbek - started the game, but his play was disappointing. He did hit one three from the corner and that was it for the most part.
Nachbar - Good offensive display, but got lost on the defensive end several times, allowing the russians some easy baskets.
Lakovic - Jaka had a bit of up-&down season this year. He didn't play much at the start of the season because of the eye problem, he was great in euroleague playoffs against Tau, he was bad in ACB finals (again against Tau). Yesterday he had a good game. Got 6 assist on one turnover and one near-turnover. His shot was off, but he didn't force it. Hopefully he regains the form by the time championship rolls around.

Klobucar - if he plays, he should stick to what he does best - be a pest on defense and hit open threes on offense. As soon as he tries something more bad things happen.
S. Udrih - bad game by him yesterday, showed nothing but two passes to nowhere, thankfully he was pulled out fast by Zdovc otherwise he might get booed out of court.
Slokar - played little, but solid. What i like about Uros is not his outside shot (which is great for a big) - but his rebounding ability - he seems to have a good feeling when to go for them.
Golemac - played a lot again, showed some good hustle, did well on defense. Golemac doesn't do anything particularly bad or good for that matter - just a very solid player. However hopefully he doesn't play much at the EC, because once the teams figure out he's not that dangerous from the inside and outside, will be soon playing 4-on-5 basketball on offense.
Jagodnik - easily the best player yesterday in his limited time. Tons of hustle and heart, he came up with all the good plays in the final quarter to finish of the russians.
Brezec - he tries, just not on the defensive end. I get it he's slow and players get past him, but the least he could do is raise his arms on the defense - you know make the shots harder
Dragic - good game by dragic, especially on defense. The team offense struggled at times with him on court - but it could be just the fact that he played with our second unit most of the time.

Vidmar - DNP CD
B. Udrih - DNP minor injury
Vujacic - DNP injury

[Kamnik]

Lakovic - Yesterday he had a good game.

Are you sure you watched the game? :wow

HE WAS HORRIBLE! He got abused on both sides of the floor by bigger guards. Hist ballhandling was way too poor for a PG.

Only 1 turnover? :wow Ummm... if the official scorebox says that then it is dead wrong. I can remember at least 3 turnovers that should go directly to him if not more. He also got his shot blocked a couple of times when he tried to force it.

[velik_m]

Are you sure you watched the game? :wow

HE WAS HORRIBLE! He got abused on both sides of the floor by bigger guards. Hist ballhandling was way too poor for a PG.

Only 1 turnover? :wow Ummm... if the official scorebox says that then it is dead wrong. I can remember at least 3 turnovers that should go directly to him if not more. He also got his shot blocked a couple of times when he tried to force it.

Are you sure you're not blinded by the hate of the player and only focusing on his negatives? You need to rewatch the game. Yeah, he got abused in the post by bigger players - he's a small dude what did you expect? But he also run the team well on the offensive end and that is all i ask from a pg (certainly better than dragic, which maybe had to do with the quality of players he played with). He's no NBA superstar, but yesterday i felt quite comfortable with him running the point. Would like to see Lakovic/Dragic combo though, i think they would complement each other well.


He reminds of a poor man's Kirilenko.

:lmao Maybe, if the man is western sahara poor.

[Kamnik]

Are you sure you're not blinded by the hate of the player and only focusing on his negatives? You need to rewatch the game. Yeah, he got abused in the post by bigger players - he's a small dude what did you expect? But he also run the team well on the offensive end and that is all i ask from a pg (certainly better than dragic, which maybe had to do with the quality of players he played with). He's no NBA superstar, but yesterday i felt quite comfortable with him running the point. Would like to see Lakovic/Dragic combo though, i think they would complement each other well.


Hate? :rollin Lakovic was one of my favourite Slovenian players in the last decade and I was rooting for Krka when he played there. I am not denying that he is a great guy; I am just saying that he sucks at this point as a basketball player.

From all 15 players on our roster I maybe hate only Vujacic and even that will be forgotten if he plays hard and well.

I am focusing on his negatives because there are so many of them. His size, speed, defence, etc. Basically everything except taking an open shot.

Positives... in comparison with Dragic he is probably just a better shooter but that is usually negated by the fact that he can't create a shot for himself; that was obvious yesterday when he got blocked several times.

As for running the team well offensively IMO he did NOT do that well. If running the offense well is getting the ball across the halfcourt and then passing to someone else then maybe I can play the PG for our NT and I will be doing "a good job".


Anyways I am very interested to see the scorebox and Lakovic's +/-.

[velik_m]

Full stats: http://server4.mbt.lt/prod/kzs/index.php/b19sYW5nPWVuJm9fc2Vhcz04Jm9fbGVhZz00JmZ1c2VhY3Rpb2 49Z2FtZXMubWFpbiZnX2lkPTEzNTA=

I'm sure you can work out the +/- from play-by-play.

Also Smodis apperently didn't play because of some back problems, he's questionable for today. :pctoss

[velik_m]

If i got it right:
Lakovic was +5 in first quarter.
+1 in second
+1 in third
+3 in fourth

so +10 Overall, and i think dragic was +6 for the game.

[angel_luv]

hvala lepa for all the pictures and updates. :)

[Kamnik]

If i got it right:
Lakovic was +5 in first quarter.
+1 in second
+1 in third
+3 in fourth

so +10 Overall, and i think dragic was +6 for the game.

You can't compare playing together with Nachbar, Smodis and Lorbek and Dragic with Brezec and Klobucar.

Fact is Lakovic sucked and when we went to a sports bar after the game that was the main topic of the conversation betwen 15 people. It was so damn obvious people in the stands we cursing at him at several diferent points in the game.

p.s. Are you from Dolenjska? :P

[velik_m]

You can't compare playing together with Nachbar, Smodis and Lorbek and Dragic with Brezec and Klobucar.

YOU asked for +/- stats, now your dismissing it as it doesn't support your thesis.


Fact is Lakovic sucked and when we went to a sports bar after the game that was the main topic of the conversation betwen 15 people. It was so damn obvious people in the stands we cursing at him at several diferent points in the game.

Well if 15 people at the sports bar said it, it must be true.


p.s. Are you from Dolenjska? :P

No.

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I don't get this mood swings, people are hating on lakovic just for the sake of hating, just like they did on nesterovic. He's not the best play on the team and now he suddenly sucks and should be allowed nowhere near national team (despite the fact that he was the only one showing up regulary year after year). He's better than 3 other guard on this team and until vujacic actually suits up for the game he's better than him too. Stop cursing the player for not being what he's not and start enjoying him for what he is - a damn fine backup.

[velik_m]

Also Smodis apperently didn't play because of some back problems, he's questionable for today. :pctoss

Smodis out at least until august 22nd, will train under special regime away from team. And so it begins... :pctoss :pctoss :pctoss

[angel_luv]

Heal quickly and completely Smodis! :)

[Kamnik]

YOU asked for +/- stats, now your dismissing it as it doesn't support your thesis.



Well if 15 people at the sports bar said it, it must be true.



No.

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I don't get this mood swings, people are hating on lakovic just for the sake of hating, just like they did on nesterovic. He's not the best play on the team and now he suddenly sucks and should be allowed nowhere near national team (despite the fact that he was the only one showing up regulary year after year). He's better than 3 other guard on this team and until vujacic actually suits up for the game he's better than him too. Stop cursing the player for not being what he's not and start enjoying him for what he is - a damn fine backup.

Who the hell is hating? He played like crap! That is all...

And who hates Rasho? If anyone wrote at times he played poorly it is usually because he PLAYED poorly and not automatically because someone would hate him.

Your fanboy subjectivism is simply annoying. I don't hate any of the mentioned players and support all of them. But if someone is playing bad and unsufficient for the level of competition I will sure as hell say so.

If Lakovic starts playing great all the sudden I will be as happy as possible; but that isn't likely to happen when considering previous years and these last few games.

[Pero]

I thought Lakovic played pretty good too.

Sucks about Smodis, if he doesn't play at the championship I'm afraid that we're not going to be able to get far.

[velik_m]

Poor start by our team but recovered nicely when Dragic, Erazem and Jagodnik came in.

15-15 after 1st

[velik_m]

Poor game by our team. Russia leads 34-32 at half.

[Texas_Ranger]

Dragič is great! Lorbek and Slokar are also pretty good. But other are just pathetic.
Lakovič plays really awful. And once again Klobučar playing almost the whole game is just stupid.

[sendman]

After tonights performance by Lakovic, arguing above is beyond silly!

And don't be to worked up about tonight. Everybody is trying to hide as much as they can.
Zdovc has hidden almost the entire starting five. Mind games are already in full effect.

[Kamnik]

And once again Klobučar playing almost the whole game is just stupid.

The game is in Novo Mesto... and considering Smoki can't play that means even more minutes for Klobucar to satisfy local fans. He will get cut in the end or just warm the bench anyways.

I hope Zdovc plays his best players and wins the game in the end even though it is just a preparation game.

[Kamnik]

After tonights performance by Lakovic, arguing above is beyond silly!

Um.... I only watched the last 3 minutes of the halftime.

He played that bad or what?

[sendman]

Um.... I only watched the last 3 minutes of the halftime.

He played that bad or what?


Jaka was the best Russian player.....by far!:lmao
You can say that Russians have finally found themselves a point guard.:lmao

[Kamnik]

Jaka was the best Russian player.....by far!:lmao

:lmao:lmao


I just pray Beno will be okay. He tends to get injured somehow... :S

Dragic can't play 40 minutes a game... :(

[Kamnik]

I can't believe how much Erazem Lorbek progressed offensively. Great to have a low post go to guy!

[ata]

Smodiš is out for two weeks. I could sound pesimiscitic, however I doubt he will attend EC (again). Vujačič is also very questionable.
If Smodiš and Vujačič really won't be able to play, I am sure Beno will find some injury - hence Slovenian team could find itsef in Poland without Smodiš, Vujačič and Beno.

[Texas_Ranger]

Fucking pathetic!!! Why the heck is Klobučar in the game?!! And where the fuck is Nachbar?? :madrun

I miss Becirovic!!

[sendman]

Fucking pathetic!!! Why the heck is Klobučar in the game?!! And where the fuck is Nachbar?? :madrun

I miss Becirovic!!
Relax dude, Klobucar is in the game because he showed much more then D. Lorbek and Lakovič. These two should do push ups all night long. As for Nachbar...deceiving and hiding is the name of the game at the moment.

[Texas_Ranger]

Zdovc can't coach. Why the fuck does he not take a timeout when your team is losing by 3 points 17 seconds before the end. He also makes too much rotations with the team. A guy gets hot and he substitutes him. If there will be no Vujacic and Smodis we can just tank this Eurocup.

[velik_m]

Well that was just bad.

E. Lorbek the only one to show up. Dragic and Jagodnik also solid. The rest was just trash.

[Kamnik]

Zdovc can't coach.

I can't understand his rotations at all... No sence in them.

[sendman]

After watching these 4 games, Zdovc should cut Vidmar, S. Udrih and Brezec.
Primoz is completely useles. He is slow like the time between two paychecks (and yes I know that that will never happen).
Jagodnik deserves to travel with the team.
D. Lorbek should get bitch slapped by his older brother to wake him up. Slovenian team was outscored from behind the arc in all 4 preparation matches. And Slovenian team has difficulties to open up the paint, because of inadequate 3 point shooting.

It looks like injuries will have a big part in assembling this team and its goals.

[Kamnik]

Basically the key for us are Udrih, Vujacic and Smodis. All 3 decent shooters if fortune is right...

If we have them we don't need to worry about Brezec, S. Udrih, Klobucar and hopefully also Lakovic from stepping on the floor. Vidmar is a sure cut as it seems.

I hope Erazem will go to the NBA some day... It would be awsome to root for him. If he could bulk up a little he has the skill to play a starting bigman for many teams. Yes he is slow... but so are many other succesful NBA players.

[Texas_Ranger]

After these 4 games, Zdovc should cut Vidmar, S. Udrih and Brezec.
Primoz is completely useles. He is slow like the time between two paychecks (and yes I know that that will never happen).


I must agree with that, but if we cut Vidmar and Brezec we are fucked up.

Now that Smodis is injured we need another big. Slokar, E.Lorbek and Golemac are not enough.

[Kamnik]

I must agree with that, but if we cut Vidmar and Brezec we are fucked up.

Now that Smodis is injured we need another big. Slokar, E.Lorbek and Golemac are not enough.

Fucking Rasho... he should play and we would be a sure medal contender :S

[Bukefal]

Who do you play next? We played Russia also 67-78.

[velik_m]

Who do you play next? We played Russia also 67-78.

Croatia twice.

[velik_m]

After watching these 4 games, Zdovc should cut Vidmar, S. Udrih and Brezec.
Primoz is completely useles. He is slow like the time between two paychecks (and yes I know that that will never happen).
Jagodnik deserves to travel with the team.
D. Lorbek should get bitch slapped by his older brother to wake him up. Slovenian team was outscored from behind the arc in all 4 preparation matches. And Slovenian team has difficulties to open up the paint, because of inadequate 3 point shooting.

It looks like injuries will have a big part in assembling this team and its goals.

Brezec has been the most disappointing so far. Hopefully he's just holding back, because he still needs to pass the physical before signing with philly.

[velik_m]

Here is a good article about our team: http://www.eurobasket2009.org/en/coid_bwDKk,GuHXAow3xNSo5Dp2.articleMode_on.html

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

To cheer up the Slovenian fans who are hoping for a medal.........Diamantidis heard that Pau might miss Eurobasket and he said he is "going to be ready for Eurobasket".

[Kamnik]

Our X factor, key man and our weak point at the same time.... Mr. Zdovc.

We have so many good players that even a minor injury or 2 shouldnt affect us too much. (especially if they are not in the same position) Too bad we don't have Sani to have a reliable 2.

[Texas_Ranger]

Our X factor, key man and our weak point at the same time.... Mr. Zdovc.

We have so many good players that even a minor injury or 2 shouldnt affect us too much. (especially if they are not in the same position) Too bad we don't have Sani to have a reliable 2.


Yea. Now that Vujacic is injured our SG position is really weak. With just Klobučar and D.Lorbek. They also both suck. I hoped that at least Lorbek could ply solid 10 minutes a game, but so far I think that even Klobučar plays better than him. I also thought that Lakovič will play a little bit on the SG position, cause Beno and Goran should run the point, but Jaka also sucks. We just need Vujacic back.

[sendman]

Yea. Now that Vujacic is injured our SG position is really weak. With just Klobučar and D.Lorbek. They also both suck. I hoped that at least Lorbek could ply solid 10 minutes a game, but so far I think that even Klobučar plays better than him. I also thought that Lakovič will play a little bit on the SG position, cause Beno and Goran should run the point, but Jaka also sucks. We just need Vujacic back.
I think that if Sasha doesn't get better, Beno will get some burn at SG spot, leaving the PG duties to Dragic. We will also see Lakovic at SG, but so far Zdovc never had Dragic, Beno and Jaka at his disposal at the same time.
And a good news of today is that it looks like Vujacic will be able to play (unofficial, so people hold your horses). Beno will also be completely ready by Friday.
Only real concern at the moment is Smodiš. Even if do come back, his shape wont be that great.


And one more thing, we have the best coaching staff ever. I don't mean just Zdovc, whole gang around him was carefully selected. For the first time NT coaching staff is assembled out of the specialists for different aspects of the game. I'm confident. :hat:stirpot:

[Kobayagi]

To cheer up the Slovenian fans who are hoping for a medal.........Diamantidis said he is "going to be ready for Eurobasket".


We should just call everything off right now and save money by not going to Poland.

[sendman]

To cheer up the Slovenian fans who are hoping for a medal.........Diamantidis heard that Pau might miss Eurobasket and he said he is "going to be ready for Eurobasket".
Noooooo! I just shat in my pants.:lmao

[Texas_Ranger]

We should just call everything off right now and save money by not going to Poland.

True...We can't play against Diamantidis...Fuck!! It's over now!!!... We can go and cry!:depressed:(

[velik_m]

Monya Becomes X-Factor For Russia

Sweet-shooting forward Sergey Monya is starting to give the Russians something to chirp about less than a month before they begin their EuroBasket title defense.

The 26-year-old poured in 18 points, including a two-of-four effort from long range, in a 70-66 win over Slovenia in their second friendly this week in Ljubljana.

Equally impressive was Monya's work on the boards. He finished with a game-high 12 rebounds.

Viktor Khryapa - one of Russia's top players two years ago in their gold-medal triumph in Spain - contributed 14 points and Andrey Vorontsevich 12.

"The Russians are now playing with great fight," Slovenia coach Jure Zdovc said.

"We were poor, despite having opportunities to win at the end of the game."

CSKA Moscow power forward/center Erazem Lorbek finished with a game-high 24 points for Slovenia but he endured an almighty struggle at the free-throw line, making just eight of 16.

http://www.eurobasket2009.org/en/coid_b6VWP8wkIUsoGryfzoaho2.articleMode_on.html

[Kamnik]

http://www.rtvslo.si/sport/kosarka/ep-v-kosarki-2009/kocka-je-padla-vujacic-se-vraca/209808

Great news. Vujacic and Udrih are both back.

We NEED a good player at the 2 position to take the bulk of minutes. If would split Dragic's minutes betwen 1 and 2 spots. The rest should be mostly taken by Udrih and Vujacic if they both play well.

Domen Lorbek unfortunately did not show enough to get some serious burn... :/


Smodis is still out. But hopefully he will be back and healthy enough to play at least some minutes. I think his leadership on and off the court is the most important so he doesn't even need to be 100% imo.

[Kamnik]

Also relevant: http://www.rtvslo.si/sport/kosarka/ep-v-kosarki-2009/pau-gasol-zaradi-poskodbe-tri-tedne-brez-treninga/209610

Gasol was operated on his finger. It is a strong posibility that he will miss the first part of the EC. This greatly improves our chances against the Spanyards in the opening matches.

[Goran Dragic]

I'm leading this team to the glory land.

[velik_m]

Now lets hope Smodis comes back healthy and nobody else gets injured. :pray

E. Lorbek/Brezec
Smodis/Slokar/Golemac
Nachbar/Jagodnik
Vujacic/Lakovic/D. Lorbek
B. Udrih/Dragic

If Klobucar takes place od D. Lorbek and/or Vidmar takes place of Golemac that's ok with me too. As long as the core of our team is healthy we're ok.

[Kamnik]

I'm leading this team to the glory land.

Lets hope so.

p.s.

I will shoot myself in the face if Lakovic starts any more games...

[velik_m]

Lets hope so.

p.s.

I will shoot myself in the face if Lakovic starts any more games...

I think the reason he started this games was because Beno was not playing and Zdovc wanted for Dragic to get used to come in later in the game and run the second unit.

[Kamnik]

Now lets hope Smodis comes back healthy and nobody else gets injured. :pray

E. Lorbek/Brezec
Smodis/Slokar/Golemac
Nachbar/Jagodnik
Vujacic/Lakovic/D. Lorbek
B. Udrih/Dragic

If Klobucar takes place od D. Lorbek and/or Vidmar takes place of Golemac that's ok with me too. As long as the core of our team is healthy we're ok.

Golemac played better than Brezec, Vidmar, D. Lorbek... I would prefer to see Slokar get some minutes at 5 and Golemac some more of his minutes at 4. (I doubt Smodis will be able to play much more than 20 minutes a game)

This would reduce Brezec's minutes... And that can only be good for us.

[velik_m]

Golemac played better than Brezec, Vidmar, D. Lorbek... I would prefer to see Slokar get some minutes at 5 and Golemac some more of his minutes at 4. (I doubt Smodis will be able to play much more than 20 minutes a game)

This would reduce Brezec's minutes... And that can only be good for us.

I agree but i doubt Brezec is getting cut, and i don't think we're carrying more than 5 bigs so the play of Domen has no baring on the status of Golemac. I would prefer to see Golemac over Vidmar, i just wanted to say if Zdovc goes for younger player in this instance i can live with it - our hopes do not hinge on Golemac anyway.

[Goran Dragic]

Now lets hope Smodis comes back healthy and nobody else gets injured. :pray

E. Lorbek/Brezec
Smodis/Slokar/Golemac
Nachbar/Jagodnik
Vujacic/Lakovic/D. Lorbek
B. Udrih/Dragic

If Klobucar takes place od D. Lorbek and/or Vidmar takes place of Golemac that's ok with me too. As long as the core of our team is healthy we're ok.


Is that some sort of joke? Beno Udrih starting over me?

[velik_m]

Players taking some time off to visit kids at the hospital.

http://img.rtvslo.si/_up/upload/2009/08/13/64612400_gasper-vidmar-samo-udrih-uros-slokar3.jpg

http://www.kzs-zveza.si/kzs/foto/Kopija%20od%20obisk%20pediatricne%20reprezentanca/SPS_5312.jpg

http://www.kzs-zveza.si/kzs/foto/Kopija%20od%20obisk%20pediatricne%20reprezentanca/SPS_5410.jpg

More pics here (http://www.rtvslo.si/sport/kosarka/ep-v-kosarki-2009/foto-kosarkarji-razveselili-bolne-otroke/209812) and here (http://www.kzs-zveza.si/kzs/index.php?x=11&galerija=567)

[angel_luv]

That's really sweet. Hvala for posting the picture, Velik.

[Kamnik]

Brezec signs: http://www.nba.com/sixers/news/090813_brezec.html

Even though I doubt he will be able to contribute anythings... Good luck to him!

[velik_m]

Great for Brezec, i don't know what philly was thinking though...

Anyway no more excuses for Brezec - you got your contract, now start playing!

[angel_luv]

Congrats Brezec!

[velik_m]

With Smodis out for the time, Zdovc called in Zupan.

[Kamnik]

With Smodis out for the time, Zdovc called in Zupan.

Zupan is a decent player for his size. You know he will give 110% no matter what even if he is a little undersized/undertalented.

Good move by Zdovc imo.

[Texas_Ranger]

He could also call up Joksimovič.

[Kamnik]

Lakovic was made a temporary captain in absence of Smodis. Somebody shoot me, this means he will start probably... :/ Why not Jagodnik? The oldest player, with loads of experience who plays well and gives 110% when on the floor...

Fucking Zdovc...

[velik_m]

Lakovic was made a temporary captain in absence of Smodis. Somebody shoot me, this means he will start probably... :/ Why not Jagodnik? The oldest player, with loads of experience who plays well and gives 110% when on the floor...

Fucking Zdovc...

He has the most caps for NT?

Also a heads up for slovenian fans - today's game against croatia will be on Sport TV and HTV at 9pm CET.

[Texas_Ranger]

Can't wait for todays game. I know I'll be watching it on HRT, cause commentator on Sport TV sucks. I hope we'll win, but this games with Croatia are always very tight. So we'll see what will happen.

If Zdovc plays Zupan in the starting 5, I'm gonna jump from my balcony and kill myself. I know he's a solid player, but he doesnt deserve to start.

[Kamnik]

Can't wait for todays game. I know I'll be watching it on HRT, cause commentator on Sport TV sucks. I hope we'll win, but this games with Croatia are always very tight. So we'll see what will happen.

If Zdovc plays Zupan in the starting 5, I'm gonna jump from my balcony and kill myself. I know he's a solid player, but he doesnt deserve to start.

+1 About the Sport TV commentating. I also want to hear some objective thoughts about our players/teams.

As for Zupan I wouldn't worry about him playing too much. I am more worried about Jaka Suckovič :toast

[Texas_Ranger]

+1 About the Sport TV commentating. I also want to hear some objective thoughts about our players/teams.

As for Zupan I wouldn't worry about him playing too much. I am more worried about Jaka Suckovič :toast

True, true!:toast

[sendman]

I am more worried about Jaka Suckovič :toast
Name calling your own players isn't cool.:nope

Trash his game all you like, but keep it within a good taste.

[velik_m]

1st quarter good on offense, poor, poor defense on the other side.

Too many open threes

Dragic must do better.

[angel_luv]

Dajmo Slovenija! :cheer


I wish I was not at work and could watch their game.

[velik_m]

Slovenia up by 10: 37-27

[angel_luv]

:clap

[velik_m]

Our C's are crap on defense, and we need to do something about free throw shooting.

EDIT: we lead 44-39 at half.

[Slo spurs fan]

No Smodis, B.Udrih, Vujacic, and Brezec today. Ohh and very bad defense under the rim.

[Slo spurs fan]

And no Jagoda?

[Texas_Ranger]

Our players played like superstars for 15 minutes. I hope it's not over.

:lol @ Lakovič and S.Udrih - they look amazing!!

[sendman]

Our C's are crap on defense, and we need to do something about free throw shooting.

EDIT: we lead 44-39 at half.

Excellent ball movement for 15 minutes and then we stopped. Nachbar is killing the game at the moment. Sometimes he is such a ball hog.
I have to give big props to Golemac. With him on the floor our game is so much more intelligent and diverse. Also I have to say that Samo Udrih was a pleasant surprise in the first half. D. Lorbek and Vidmar were just redicolous.
One more thing, LAKOVIC is playing GREAT!

[velik_m]

Dragic out for the game. Nothing seriuos just caution.

[Slo spurs fan]

It looks like Dragis is finished for today. He has some headache.

[velik_m]

Excellent ball movement for 15 minutes and then we stopped. Nachbar is killing the game at the moment. Sometimes he is such a ball hog.
I have to give big props to Golemac. With him on the floor our game is so much more intelligent and diverse. Also I have to say that Samo Udrih was a pleasant surprise in the first half. D. Lorbek and Vidmar were just redicolous.
One more thing, LAKOVIC is playing GREAT!

I think Vidmar will be cut - he showed nothing so far.

I wish Golemac would stop talking to the refs.

[angel_luv]

I wish Sho was playing this year. It's not the same without him- although I am still optimistic about this team.

[Slo spurs fan]

Breza sighting!

[velik_m]

Finally we put in a real center to match croatian bigs. We're up by 10 after 3/4.

[Slo spurs fan]

Brezec made this difference by stopping Kasun. +10

[Slo spurs fan]

You beat me again Big M

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Please tell me white magic's injury isn't serious.

[Slo spurs fan]

Please tell me white magic's injury isn't serious.

Just a blow in the back of the head.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Just a blow in the back of the head.


Good. I'd really have no reason to be excited for Suns games if he missed a large part of the season.

[Slo spurs fan]

Good. I'd really have no reason to be excited for Suns games if he missed a large part of the season.

Did I smelled a sarcasm?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Did I smelled a sarcasm?


I'm dead serious. I've become a huge Goran fan cause of his work ethic and want the team handed to him.

[velik_m]

Nachbar with the dunk to seal the game. We win 82-78.

[Slo spurs fan]

It is obvious that we are siriously depleted right now. I hope this shit with injuries will end soon.

[Texas_Ranger]

Thank god we hit our free throws in the last minutes.

[velik_m]

The good: We outrebounded the croatians by a significant margin, we hit 3-pointers.

The bad: Interior defense non-existant, we couldn't hit a free throws until final moments of the game.

Given the rebounding edge we had it should have been a blow-out.

Croatians were missing several players too and they are not so far along in their preperation program as we are, but they should do well in this championship.

I expect a loss tomorrow. Hope Dragic will be fine.

EDIT: Oh and i'm happy we avoided the usual fuck up at the finish.

[sendman]

There isn't much to say after this game except that Croatians don't have a clue. If Slovenian team would shoot their free-throws average at least, this game would be ended after 3 quarters. They have Ukic, Vujcic and bunch of butchers...pathetic. Add domestic refs and picture is complete.
Golemac was terrible in the second half, he got nervous as hell (who knows what home crowd yelled at him). Zdovc should noticed that and take him out.
After tonights game I have to correct my cut predictions. S. Udrih should stay, and D. Lorbek should go home.

All in all, this one feels great....you all know why!

:danceclub KDOR NE SKAČE NI SLOVENC HEJ, HEJ, HEJ!

[Kamnik]

Name calling your own players isn't cool.:nope

Trash his game all you like, but keep it within a good taste.

Yeah, you are right.

I shouldn't be angry at Jaka anyways, he is doing his best actually. The real problem here is Zdovc.

[Kamnik]

I wish Golemac would stop talking to the refs.

+1 He really can't give it a break even when he obviouslly fucked up.

But apart from that he is contributing quite nicely in several areas.

[velik_m]

CROATIA - SLOVENIA
78:82 (21:25, 18:19, 20:25, 19:13)

Ukić 21 E. Lorbek 14
Banić 12 Lakovič 13
Kasun 12 S. Udrih 12
Rožić 11 Nachbar 10
Nicević 10 Golemac 8
Vujčić 5 Slokar 7
Tomić 3 Brezec 5
Kus 2 Dragič 5
Tomas 2 D. Lorbek 3
Jagodnik 2
Zupan 2
Vidmar 1

Free throws: 15/22; 20/33 :(
Two pointers: 21/35; 19/33
Three pointers: 7/16; 8/17
Rebounds: 16; 30 :)

Looking at that boxscore i think Ukic had a pretty unnoticable 21 points, i thought Vujcic did more damage than that.

Pics from the game: http://www.kzs-zveza.si/kzs/index.php?x=11&galerija=568
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In other news:
Erazem is about to sign with Barcelona to play along side Lakovic :downspin:. He will be replacing Andersen (which is what he, ironically, did at CSKA too)

Apparently Smodis hela a feast for the russian team when they played in Novo Mesto (Smodis is a captain of CSKA and plays with a lot of team Russia members).

[velik_m]

After tonights game I have to correct my cut predictions. S. Udrih should stay, and D. Lorbek should go home.

I'm still not convinced - yeah he played great in extended time, and as a part time pg, he had a ball in his hands a lot of time and he obviuosly likes it that way. BUT in Euro extended time for our 5th guard means, we have bigger issues, than him not playing well. He also will not be handling pg duties - if he is, we're fucked anyway (Beno, Goran, Saša, Jaka all come before him, so Samo running point means at least three of those are down). He needs to show he can do what Slokar does - come in for few minutes, so other players can take a breather, hit a couple of open shots, do some dirty work on defense and in general: do not fuck-up.
The one guard that can perform in his limited time on court, should get that last spot (assuming no injuries). Right now neither one of the trio Samo, Jaka K., Domen looks too hot.

[sendman]

I'm still not convinced - yeah he played great in extended time, and as a part time pg, he had a ball in his hands a lot of time and he obviuosly likes it that way. BUT in Euro extended time for our 5th guard means, we have bigger issues, than him not playing well. He also will not be handling pg duties - if he is, we're fucked anyway (Beno, Goran, Saša, Jaka all come before him, so Samo running point means at least three of those are down). He needs to show he can do what Slokar does - come in for few minutes, so other players can take a breather, hit a couple of open shots, do some dirty work on defense and in general: do not fuck-up.
The one guard that can perform in his limited time on court, should get that last spot (assuming no injuries). Right now neither one of the trio Samo, Jaka K., Domen looks too hot.

You have some very good points in your writing and I agree completely.
But I'll try to explain my choice.
1. S. Udrih played poorly in his previous matches in very limited time. D. Lorbek played poorly including yesterday and he got much more playing time so far.
2. I preferred D. Lorbek because I was worried about SF spot (and saw him as a third choice SG). Our SF spot is covered adequately with Nachbar, Golemac and Jagodnik. We don't need D. Lorbek, because Jagodnik is still useful.
S. Udrih showed yesterday that he is able to cover PGs and SGs duties so he can fill in if things go wrong. And things are going wrong with our smalls all the time. For me he is a safe choice. If our main guns are healthy, then it doesn't matter who is sitting at the end of the bench. If shit hits the fence, S. Udrih is a guy that is prepared to take over the responsibility. He wasn't hiding, like D. Lorbek likes to do.
Also, Brezec showed signs of life and that is another good news.

[Kamnik]

Angel just for you; a video recap from the croatian TV: http://www.hrt.hr/index.php?id=37&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=45726&tx_ttnews[backPid]=34&cHash=643cb2685e
(copy the whole adress)

I just screamed from excitment with that last dunk from Boki even if it is just a preparation match :D

[Kamnik]

Also a replay at 15pm on šport tv if anyone is interested... I didn't see most of the first half so I am surely going to watch!

[Texas_Ranger]

Also a replay at 15pm on šport tv if anyone is interested... I didn't see most of the first half so I am surely going to watch!

:lmao @ commentator replacing Jagodnik with Goran Jurak...not just once.

[Kamnik]

:lmao @ commentator replacing Jagodnik with Goran Jurak...not just once.

Yeah, sometimes I have a feeling my 80 year old grandmother who usually can't tell a diference betwen basketball and handball would do a better job comentating.

After watching the game I also changed my mind about Samo Udrih.

Because it seems we need better insuarance in our 1/2 slots than our 2/3 it might be better to keep Samo Udrih then Domen Lorbek who really didn't show anything yet.

[Texas_Ranger]

Yeah, sometimes I have a feeling my 80 year old grandmother who usually can't tell a diference betwen basketball and handball would do a better job comentating.

After watching the game I also changed my mind about Samo Udrih.

Because it seems we need better insuarance in our 1/2 slots than our 2/3 it might be better to keep Samo Udrih then Domen Lorbek who really didn't show anything yet.

You're right. So far they both sucked pretty bad. Specially D.Lorbek, for who I thouhgt that he'll be better than Samo. But yesterday Udrih played really well. I know it's just one game, but it's still better then Lorbek's overall performance.
It really sucks that todays game is not on TV.

[angel_luv]

Nachbar with the dunk to seal the game. We win 82-78.

Awesome! :)

[velik_m]

starting 5 for game 2: Jaka Lakovič, Samo Udrih, Goran Jagodnik, Jurica Golemac & Primož Brezec.
No Dragic for this game.

Croatia leads 42:36 at half-time.

[velik_m]

Our team went on 16-0 run to start the third. we lead 54:61 at the end of the third.

[sendman]

Our team went on 16-0 run to start the third. we lead 54:61 at the end of the third.

Thanks for the info man. What is your source?

[velik_m]

Slovenia wins 72:77. :)

[velik_m]

Thanks for the info man. What is your source?

http://www.rtvslo.si/sport/kosarka/ep-v-kosarki-2009/v-zivo-hrvaska-slovenija/210048

[sendman]

:danceclub

There are wins and there are WINS.

It's good to be Slovenian right now!:lol

[velik_m]

Here is a play-by-play (in croatian): http://kosarka.hr/main.asp?dir=news&newsID=28767
The server is pretty slow though.

[Texas_Ranger]

Without Beno, Vujacic, Dragic and Smodis this win looks pretty good.

[Kamnik]

http://www.rtvslo.si/sport/kosarka/ep-v-kosarki-2009/s-serijo-16-0-na-zacetku-2-polcasa-do-nove-prestizne-zmage/210048

Read the middle prt about Radič/Golemac.

I feel bad for Jurica that he needs to "eat that kind of shit" because he is a nice guy.

But on the other hand... will anyone be more motivated to make a good result than him? :)

And god damn.... it feels nice to finally have a clear cut go to guy in Erazem Lorbek. If the things get bad; throw the ball to him and let him work!

PROPS TO OUR GUYS FOR THIS WIN!

[Goran Dragic]

Did I play? If yes, how did I do?

[angel_luv]

:danceclub

There are wins and there are WINS.

It's good to be Slovenian right now!:lol


:tu :)