Spurs Sign Glenn Robinson!!!

[Kori Ellis]

SAN ANTONIO – The San Antonio Spurs today announced that they have signed forward Glenn Robinson. Per club policy terms of the deal were not disclosed.

Robinson has averaged 20.8 points and 6.1 rebounds in his 679 game NBA career. The two-time All-Star spent the entire 2004-05 season on the injured list before being waived by New Orleans on 3/2/05. Robinson began the season with the Philadelphia 76ers before being dealt to the New Orleans on 2/24/05 in exchange for Jamal Mashburn and Rodney Rogers.

Glover, who signed his second 10-day contract on 3/30/05, appeared in seven games for San Antonio. He averaged 3.6 points and 1.6 rebounds in 9.7 minutes.

[timvp]

Holy Crap!

[nacho estrada]

The BIG DOG in SA????!!

[xcoriate]

No fuking way!

[MannyIsGod]

Holy Fucking Shit!

[blackbucket]

:wow :wow

Dennis Rodman (without much game left) part deux? Another bad boy on the Spurs? They must be desperate for reserve big men.

[MannyIsGod]

I didn't see this shit coming at ALL.

[exstatic]

I had to check the calendar. Nope, the first of April has come and gone. This is just bizarre. Dude has only been interested in one thing his whole career: jacking up shots. He plays basicly no defense.

[timvp]

He can score. No doubt about that.

[MannyIsGod]

Ok, so whats the scoop on Robinson? He's all offense no D right?

[goliath]

:wow

Didnt see that coming. If Pop can get through to him and straighten him out it could be a steal.

[blackbucket]

Can the dude still play the 3?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

holy fucking shit.

[Spurminator]

I had to check the calendar. Nope, the first of April has come and gone.

LOL, I totally thought the same thing.

Craziness... He seems to be the Anti-Spur.

[timvp]

Looks like it's for the rest of the season. I don't see anything about it being a ten-day contract.

[Nikos]

Isn't there a cutoff date that in which a player is ineligible to be on a playoff roster? Hasn't that date passed?

[BronxCowboy]

This is really not a joke??? I hated that mother-fucker. I guess I'll have to get used to him.

[nacho estrada]

Dude's old as dirt but is about 6'9" has a decent stroke from 20 feet. Good low post player, used to be crafty.. we'll see how much he has left in those legs

[timvp]

Isn't there a cutoff date that in which a player is ineligible to be on a playoff roster? Hasn't that date passed?

He hasn't played for another team since March 1st, so he's eligible for the playoff roster.

[xcoriate]

Isn't there a cutoff date that in which a player is ineligible to be on a playoff roster? Hasn't that date passed?

Yeah I was thinking the same thing

[ALVAREZ6]

Don't get too excited, Glenn sucks ass.

I am also a Sixers fan, and I got excited too when he came to Philly...and he's not the same..he flat out sucks, he's a slacker, he can't play D for his life, and I don't know how Pop is gonna play this piece of shit.

Big Dog sucks.

[xcoriate]

decent stroke from 20 feet

thats one thing he had, one of the best mid range games of the last decade

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

How is he going to play him?

1. 6 fouls for down low

2. Three point range

[timvp]

Whatever the Spurs get out of him is a bonus. If he sucks, the Spurs don't play him or waive him.

It's probably worth the risk.

[MannyIsGod]

So, they waived Glover?

[Spurminator]

True. If we're absolutely desperate for offense, it couldn't hurt to send him out there and tell him to fire away.

[ALVAREZ6]

Dude's old as dirt but is about 6'9" . Good low post player, used to be crafty..
Low Post player???
Try again.

BTW, the Glenn is 6'7"

[goliath]

Big Dog plays the three, correct?

Wonder if this means there was a set-back on Devin's progress?

[TheWriter]

Why was Glover mentioned?

[MannyIsGod]

Well, I remember at times last year against the Lakers having no one on this team other than Brown who could sink a shot. I don't mind this one bit.

But, if they waived Glover that also tells me that Brown is looking better and better for the playoffs.

Good news, Good news.

[ALVAREZ6]

Why is everyone so excited about Glenn Robinson, the Spurs have enough offense, and he deffinently can't play defense.

[exstatic]

I hope they give Glover an invite to camp and/or a spot on their summer team. He seems like a good fit.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

the Spurs have enough offense

You obviously haven't watched us play lately.

[MannyIsGod]

The Spurs NEVER have enough offense. That is a lesson those of us who have watched the team for years have learned. See the playoffs last year for all the proof you'll need.

I don't think this is a make or break move, and I dont' think anyone else does either, but I think it's pretty suprising for one.

[timvp]

Big Dog is only 32. The thinking is you bring him in, if he can give you some instant offense off the bench that's great. If he can't, you waive him when Devin returns from injury.

It doesn't suck to have a guy who has never averaged less than 15 points per game as your 12th man heading into the playoffs. For as lazy as he is, he might be the best midrange shooter of the last decade. And maybe being out of basketball and left for dead can spark him and make him play with some energy.

[xcoriate]

maybe he can for a chance at a ring. Big Dog wasn't always as lazy as he was in Philly.

But hey in Philly he wasn't going anywhere. Perhaps pop can instill some fire. Perhaps not.

But I agree with timvp it was worth a risk

[timvp]

Why is everyone so excited about Glenn Robinson, the Spurs have enough offense, and he deffinently can't play defense.

I don't see people overly excited. We're just surprised.

[ChumpDumper]

Definitely worth the risk when your midrange game consists of Bruce Bowen and nothing else.

I was going to bemoan the Spurs' not looking for offense in their scrub acquisitions.

Geez.

[ALVAREZ6]

You obviously haven't watched us play lately.
Well LATELY, has Duncan played? No.

And no, I haven't really had the chance to watch, I don't live in SA.

[Kori Ellis]

I don't know if people are excited or just shocked.

They'll probably just use him for some extra points off the bench while Duncan and Devin are out. Then if he does anything, keep him for the postseason. It's debatable whether he'll make the playoff roster. This is a no risk, not much reward pick-up.

[Spurminator]

Well LATELY, has Duncan played? No.

And he won't be playing for a while. That's the point.

[ALVAREZ6]

I don't see people overly excited. We're just surprised.
I am more surprised than anyone, this move came out of nowhere... I don't really understand how much he's going to help.

Isn't he injured, or when is he going to start playing again?

[MannyIsGod]

Can anyone confirm Glover's status?

[Blazer16]

Wow. What a character. Didn't think Pop would put up with such a punk.

[xcoriate]

His not going to steal to many of Manus minutes calm down alvarez

[timvp]

Can anyone confirm Glover's status?

Glover is gone.

[Kori Ellis]

Can anyone confirm Glover's status?

Waived. Sorry I didn't include that in the thread title.

[ALVAREZ6]

His not going to steal to many of Manus minutes calm down alvarez
lmao.

Who said I was worried about that.

The big "dog" can have his fun playing for about 10 games, I don't care.

He's NOT going to be a Spur next year...

[xcoriate]

lmao.

Who said I was worried about that.

The big "dog" can have his fun playing for about 10 games, I don't care.

He's NOT going to be a Spur next year...

Nah I'm just meessing with ya it s all good

[1Parker1]

I wonder why no other teams were interested in him. Wasn't he the first draft pick or something?

[nacho estrada]

Low Post player???
Try again.

BTW, the Glenn is 6'7"


Nah, he is good near the bucket. I know he plays the three but if he gets low enough, his size (240lbs) does some good. Alot of it is outsmarting your defender. My bad, Al.. I knew he was around 6'7-6'9". Take heed, you dont average 20.8 and 6.0 a game over a 10 year career and not know how to ball. Period. Good pickup, cheap man's Karl Malone(minus the D).

[ChumpDumper]

I wonder if he's in any kind of shape.

[MannyIsGod]

Out of fucking left field for sure.

Well, It's not a bad move by any stretch. You don't risk anything, and you risk some damn good instant offense.

I don't know how this guy fits in personality wise, but we shall see.

Question: How many games before Robinson appears more acclimated than Nazr on this team?

[SuBZer0]

wow, really didn't see this coming...and Pop will NOT put up with a punk like him - he'll straighten him out

[ALVAREZ6]

I wonder why no other teams were interested in him. Wasn't he the first draft pick or something?
1Parker1, you live in PHilly too. Did Glenn suck at defense or was that just me?

He's just like Webber, so easy to read, all Glenn does is take the shots from the same exact spot on the court.

Watch, he's going to get in with his back turned away from the basket, then he will fade and shoot like a 15-20 foot jumper...I don't even think his jumper is very good at this point...he hasn't played in like a year.

[exstatic]

Yeah, Glover was on his second 10 day. I'm not sure if they can send him to the IR, or if they'd want to at this point.

Big Dawg is only 6'7", but has a nice postup game. He also has a shot out beyond the arc, shooting .340 career.

[Kori Ellis]

Did Glenn suck at defense or was that just me?

Everyone who has ever seen him play knows he sucks at D. This wasn't a defensive pickup.

[1Parker1]

His not going to steal to many of Manus minutes calm down alvarez

:lol

[timvp]

I wonder if he's in any kind of shape.

He has to be. As they've been on their scrub search, they've invited a lot of players in and have put them through a very tough workout that includes a lot of running, shooting, agility drills and more running.

[MannyIsGod]

I'm reading this as the Spurs being much more confident in Devin Brown's health. Am I the only one?

[Kori Ellis]

I wonder if he's in any kind of shape.

Yeah that's what I was thinking. He has a tendency to get fat anyway. And he hasn't played in a long time. I'd imagine the Spurs worked him out a bit before this decision though.

[ALVAREZ6]

Big Dawg is only 6'7", but has a nice postup game. He also has a shot out beyond the arc, shooting .340 career.
Don't count on any 3 point shooting from him.

He barely shot 3's in Philly, it's just not part of his game at this stage in his career.


BTW, WHEN'S HIS 1st GAME AS A SPUR????

[Kori Ellis]

I'm reading this as the Spurs being much more confident in Devin Brown's health. Am I the only one?

Why would you say that? Glenn Robinson is another 3. Why does this assure you?

[xcoriate]

I like it its interesting, I think Pop can get him to at least play borderline D

Chump hit the nail on the head though, what kind of shape is he in?

[ALVAREZ6]

I remember he was a great part of the 1999-2000 Bucks team, they were good with him, Cassell, and Ray Allen.

[ChumpDumper]

He has to be. As they've been on their scrub search, they've invited a lot of players in and have put them through a very tough workout that includes a lot of running, shooting, agility drills and more running.I'm sure, but I wonder if GRob's shooting touch gives him a mulligan compared to a guy like Glover. I mean it's not often you can get a scorer like this for peanuts.

[1Parker1]

1Parker1, you live in PHilly too. Did Glenn suck at defense or was that just me?

He's just like Webber, so easy to read, all Glenn does is take the shots from the same exact spot on the court.

Watch, he's going to get in with his back turned away from the basket, then he will fade and shoot like a 15-20 foot jumper...I don't even think his jumper is very good at this point...he hasn't played in like a year.

HMM, He wasn't that great on D, you're right, but as someone else mentioned, I think they are looking more so towards his offensive production. All I can remember about him are the local reports at the begining of the season when he was traded. I think they mentioned how he wasn't the same as he used to be and how he'd been getting lazy and didn't appreciate going to the bench and playing a limited role with the 76ers after being a starter. I'm sure Pop can turn his attitude right around. :)

[ChumpDumper]

He barely shot 3's in Philly100 in 42 games is barely?

[MannyIsGod]

Because of Pops defense first mentality. I think if Devin was going to be out, he'd rather have Glover because Glover actually plays defense.

[ALVAREZ6]

100 in 42 games is barely?
He played more than 42 games I thought?

Oh well, I barely even remember.

Either way, he sucks...how many did he make???

[Kori Ellis]

Because of Pops defense first mentality. I think if Devin was going to be out, he'd rather have Glover because Glover actually plays defense.

Well I don't see this pick up as an indicator of much related to Devin. But Devin is expected back in less than two weeks anyway.

[ChumpDumper]

how many did he make???34. At least that makes him an option out there.

[ALVAREZ6]

34. At least that makes him an option out there.
Oh.

I wonder if he can still shoot the ball like that.

He hasn't been on his feet very long, or training, or practicing.

So by the time he's all fit in with the Spurs, he will have what, 1 game lefT?

[ChumpDumper]

I'd be happy with the midrange and something close to contributing in transition.

[Solid D]

This is out of left field. The Spurs wouldn't have signed him if he didn't impress them somewhat during his workout. I seriously doubt he will play much but who knows.

He wore 31 in Philly but that's because Wilt wore 13 and that number is retired. It's retired in SA too, so all the Malik lovers get prepared...

[ALVAREZ6]

I'd be happy with the midrange and something close to contributing in transition.
Transition?

He can't keep up with Tony, Manu, etc.

[TheWriter]

Big Dog is he plays well, just adds to the big ball or small ball game the Spurs can play. We can play big with him or we can play smallwith him as well.

[spurs_2108]

This was a big shock to me. I am gonna miss Glover. He was a good fight, while he lasted. I hope to see him back in the summer camp or what ever.

[TheWriter]

Transition?

He can't keep up with Tony, Manu, etc.

Transition doesn't always mean running ahead of everyone.

Just being able to do something without setting a play up.

[Rummpd]

I live in Philly and also lived near him in Madison WI - remember GR was a Spur killer in some games for the Bucks.

Also, he never really got a chance in Philly IMO this year. O'Brien is a strange coach who pre-determined that GR was not going to start, that plus injuries led to him leaving.

However, this guy has friggin talent if motivated!

[ChumpDumper]

He can't keep up with Tony, Manu, etc.something close = trailing and being ready to shoot that midrange j.

No one outside of Wilks can keep up with Tony.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

this sounds like insurance against Devin being out for the year to me, but it's just a hunch.

[TheWriter]

something close = trailing and being ready top shoot that midrange shot.

No one outside of Wilks can keep up with Tony.

Exactly.

If he can get to the wing or outside the arch and launch a shot (and make it) that will just add to the Spurs.

[ALVAREZ6]

I live in Philly and also lived near him in Madison WI - remember GR was a Spur killer in some games for the Bucks.

Also, he never really got a chance in Philly IMO this year. O'Brien is a strange coach who pre-determined that GR was not going to start, that plus injuries led to him leaving.

1.He was great for Milwaukee.

2. He's been injured, do you honostly think the Sixers would trade GR for Rodney Rogers?

[TheWriter]

Beno
Brent
Robinson
Horry
Nazr/Marks

That's good offense!

But ugly defense!

[Mark in Austin]

Wow. I guess we'll see how much of a mulligan he got with respect to conditioning at warmups for the next game. If he's managed to stay in shape, I'll be impressed... errr... make that I'll think more of him than I do now.

ps - I wonder if any fans will protest the nickname "Big Dog" since Antione Carr had it here first... :lol

[Solid D]

He does have off-court sins alleged. The NBA suspended Robinson for three games in 2003 after he was found guilty of domestic battery and assault against his former fiancee.

Robinson was sentenced to one year probation and was ordered to undergo anger management counseling.

http://static.highbeam.com/k/knightriddertribunenewsservice/october272003/robinsonsuspendedfor3gamesknightriddernewspapers/

[MannyIsGod]

I would have laid money on the line saying GR would never have been a Spur. I would have lost. Weird.

[Rummpd]

Hidden Agenda?

Played for Karl and has a grudge against him, knows his plays on offense and defense and would like nothing better than to beat a Karl coached team?

[benjirh]

Oh.

I wonder if he can still shoot the ball like that.

He hasn't been on his feet very long, or training, or practicing.

So by the time he's all fit in with the Spurs, he will have what, 1 game lefT?

How do you know this? There is no way the spurs would drop a guy who was already with the team for a guy who is out of shape or injured. I am not sure I like Robinson better than Glover, but I am sure he is ready to play if we want him.

[IceColdBrewski]

I had to check the calendar. Nope, the first of April has come and gone.

My first thought when I saw this. "Must have been posted on April 1st."

[PM5K]

I couldn't agree any more with what TimVP has said in this thread, and in another one pertaining to the Spurs signing anybody that they want, regardless of their character, at least I think TimVP said that, it may have been Whott....

So yes I agree that whatever he gives us is gravy, we already have fifty plus wins this season, in Philly they were counting on him to do a lot for them, here he's a role player.

If he does have bad habbits and sub-par defense this is a good place to be, nothing can motivate a guy more than a legitimate chance at a ring and nobody can erase a defensive mistake better than Tim/Rasho....

I think people are mostly shocked because I can't recall the last time the Spurs made any remotely significant move this late in the season, just like we were a bit shocked when they traded Malik, there is always talk but the Spurs don't usually do much come trade time.

Glenn is a good addition to this team....

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

He's been injured, do you honostly think the Sixers would trade GR for Rodney Rogers?

There's been a lot of trades that don't make sense in the salary cup/luxury tax era.

Hell, look at what Boston got Antoine Walker from Atlanta for.

[Solid D]

The only thing I can remember close to this was in late April of 1990, when the Spurs waived Zarko Paspalj and signed Mike Mitchell right before the playoffs. He was a former great midrange shooting Forward, over the hill but seasoned.

This isn't quite like that but similar timing. That's the year the Spurs lost to the Blazers in 7 games.

[ChumpDumper]

He's been injured, do you honostly think the Sixers would trade GR for Rodney Rogers?Yes, considering the coach.

[Dre_7]

I live in Philly and also lived near him in Madison WI - remember GR was a Spur killer in some games for the Bucks.

A lil off topic but...
I live in Madison. Where near Madison did you live?

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I think this is going to be another case of promising potentiality bad actuality

[bigbendbruisebrother]

I'm reading this as the Spurs being much more confident in Devin Brown's health. Am I the only one?

While I'm not sure what it means, as far as them signing a backup SF, I'd read it as they need a guy to help spell Bruce. If Devin is not as durable when he returns, they'll need to reduce his minutes. From that standpoint it makes sense.

[Summers]

He does have off-court sins alleged. The NBA suspended Robinson for three games in 2003 after he was found guilty of domestic battery and assault against his former fiancee.

Robinson was sentenced to one year probation and was ordered to undergo anger management counseling.

http://static.highbeam.com/k/knightriddertribunenewsservice/october272003/robinsonsuspendedfor3gamesknightriddernewspapers/

I googled him and found "not a great locker room presence" or something like that. Am I being a nerd for wondering if this could cause trouble?

[Kori Ellis]

I googled him and found "not a great locker room presence" or something like that. Am I being a nerd for wondering if this could cause trouble?

He wasn't the best of teammates at the end of his stint in Milwaukee, but neither was anyone else there.

And nobody on the Spurs is going to let a 12th (or 13th or 14th) man cause trouble. He'd be waived before that happened.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

well he certainly can't be worse than Dion Glover...

[Kori Ellis]

this reminds me of the keith van horn signing in dallas

We wish. Van Horn is average 13ppg with Dallas.

[Summers]

the Spurs right now are reminding me more of last years Lakers because they are going for talent over chemistry. Almost signing Karl Malone, getting Nazr, and now Glenn makes me think this...does anyone else agree? i dont think the guy will do anything for us...he wont fit in to our system...and i heard his injury would put him out for the year....how is he healthy again?this reminds me of the keith van horn signing in dallas

You don't think Nazr fits in personality wise? His game has admittedly been a little disappointing, but everything I've read about him makes him sound like a typical Spur.

[Summers]

He wasn't the best of teammates at the end of his stint in Milwaukee, but neither was anyone else there.

And nobody on the Spurs is going to let a 12th (or 13th or 14th) man cause trouble. He'd be waived before that happened.

Good point. Makes me feel better.

[Useruser666]

Mr. Robinson

And here's to you, Mr. Robinson,
Big Dawg loves you more than you will know. (Wo wo wo).
Pop bless you please, Mr. Robinson,
Playoffs hold a place for those who play, (Hey hey hey, hey hey hey).

We'd like to know A little bit about you for our files.
We'd like to help you learn to help yourself.
Look around you, all you see are sympathetic eyes.
Stroll around the town until you feel at home.

And here's to you, Mr. Robinson,
Big Dawg loves you more than you will know. (Wo wo wo).
Pop bless you please, Mr. Robinson,
Playoffs hold a place for those who play (Hey hey hey, hey hey hey).

Hide it in a hiding place. where no one ever goes.
Put it in you jersey with your cupcakes.
It's a little secret, just the Robinsons' will care.
Most of all, you've got to hide it from the kids.

Coo coo ca-choo, Mr. Robinson,
Big Dawg loves you more than you will know (Wo wo wo).
Pop bless you, please, Mr. Robinson,
Playoffs hold a place for those who play (Hey hey hey, hey hey hey).

Sitting on a sofa on a gameday afternoon,
Thinking about the Milk duds you just ate,
Laugh about it, Shout about it, when you've got to choose,
This team won't ask you to lose.

Where have you gone, Mr. Logo?.
A nation turns its lonely eyes to you (ooo ooo ooo).
What's that you say, Mr. Robinson ?
"The Iceman has left and gone away" (Hey hey hey, hey hey hey)

[xcoriate]

KVH has been huge for Dallas

[Kori Ellis]

i meant that NEITHER player plays defense.van horn is the worst defender in the L, followed closely by big DOG

Well Glenn wasn't brought here to defend. He'll just have to make an effort on D, be in the right places, and shoot. It's not a high-risk pickup at all.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

It's not a high-risk pickup at all.


Exactly. What do we have to lose? Its not like we just signed him to a multi million dollar long term deal here....

[bigbendbruisebrother]

[QUOTE=Solid D]The only thing I can remember close to this was in late April of 1990, when the Spurs waived Zarko Paspalj and signed Mike Mitchell right before the playoffs. He was a former great midrange shooting Forward, over the hill but seasoned.QUOTE]

Zarko! The human victory cigar! Man when his ass was peeled off the pine, you knew the Spurs were up 20 pts or more. You gotta love a guy who sat in the smoking section on flights rather than sit with his teamates, and who regularly ate concession food on the bench. He retired after his first heart attack in 1999. He had a second in 2001 (he was 35 then). He now coaches in Serbia.

[SequSpur]

?

[picnroll]

Right now, without Duncan and Brown, Spurs are pretty thin when it comes to putting a scorer on the floor with the second unit. Barry? Yes sometimes. Marks? Not really. Maseenburg, Nazr? Not much at all. Beno? Too shy on putting up the shot. Robinosn gives them a guy who can and will put up the shot and might even make it.

[slayermin]

Maybe he could fill the role like Chuck Person did back in the day. The Rifleman wasn't exactly known for his shutdown D.

[smeagol]

Not as good as the "Every Breath Malik Takes" song, but still entertaining.

Keep it up, User.

[slayermin]

I just realized why Pop might have taken a chance on Glenn. They are BOTH from Gary, Indiana.

[Jimcs50]

So, I guess this means that the Rose for Nazr trade is officially a bust?

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Glenn is going to be our leading playoff scorer

[Cant_Be_Faded]

j/k
but in all fairness, glenn robinson has a midrange jumper game, and no D, thats all i know about him....he also CAN score and HAS scored....

i can't believe noone has made the connection yet...

this is Ron Mercer part 2
He's going to have 2 or 3 decent scoring games then get booted...
But we still have nothing to lose in signing his old butt

[RobinsontoDuncan]

Kori, why don't any other sites have this up, i am gonna check spurs.com, espn, si, etc again, btu so far are you the only one who knows?

[ChumpDumper]

So, I guess this means that the Rose for Nazr trade is officially a bust?Seeing as they don't play the same position, no.

[ShoogarBear]

With this move, Pop and RC have just OWNED the friggin CIA.

[RobinsontoDuncan]

Never mind, found it on the spurs web site

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I think Big Dog's stock fell a lot in Philly, but Chris Webber is now proving that it's hard to play next to AI, aka the Black Hole, and look all that good.

Philadelphia is poorly coached and basically are the Lakers of the East in that they do all they can now to cater to their one star. Look at how well Skinner, K. Thomas and Williamson have done since going to Sacramento. Philly is a career graveyard if your last name isn't Iverson.

Robinson is a big-time offensive talent, and a guy the Spurs couldn't have touched just three years ago. If he's in any kind of shape I think this is a decent move. As Kori said, there's little risk in this. The Spurs didn't give up anything to get him, and if he's not what they were expecting they can show him the door.

Where is Ghost? The Spurs front office is starting to behave like he always wanted them to.

[xcoriate]

So, I guess this means that the Rose for Nazr trade is officially a bust?

How the hell did you come to that conclusion, Malike is a PF, Nazr is a C and Big Dog is a SF......

[timvp]

Kori, why don't any other sites have this up, i am gonna check spurs.com, espn, si, etc again, btu so far are you the only one who knows?

Where does Spurs news always break?

:smokin

[SequSpur]

F U L L S P O R T P R E S S . C O M

Don't understand why the text message didn't go off, but I guess this will do.

:(

[Solid D]

Where does Spurs news always break?

:smokin

Uhhh....on KSAT?

http://images.ibsys.com/2000/1026/125437.gif

[Ginofan]

Seriously wtf! :depressed

I thought G-Love was working out pretty well here...then they just go and throw him out the door and sign Glenn Robinson?! Why is this happening so damn late in the season?! This is crap, and I'm bitter! :cuss

[timvp]

Since the Spurs have a bunch of good guys, they believe in the theory that they can have one anti-Spur and it won't hurt chemistry at all. It worked with Stephen Jackson and I think it can work here too.

Glenn Robinson is someone who has had it easy his whole basketball life. He was a superstar at Purdue, was the first overall draft pick and then signed the biggest contract in the history of the NBA for a rookie. Everything he's ever accomplished in basketball has been easy.

Now that he's been out of the league for a while, he might have a different outlook. Perhaps he'll realize that he has to put in the work and listen to the coaches or else he'll find himself back out of basketball. Fear is a good motivation for a lot of people.

Plus, the guy just turned 32 years old. If he turns it around now, he has plenty of good years left. He might even get one more big pay day.

Glenn Robinson should be motivated. He should come in with something to prove.

And if he doesn't, you waive him when Devin and Tim return.

Simple.

[SequSpur]

G Love? :lol

Bitter about what?

Its about winning.

I don't know if this will help, but damn, I like it.

[smeagol]

I don't know if this will help, but damn, I like it.

Why am I not suprised?

[Ginofan]

G Love? :lol

Bitter about what?

Its about winning.

I don't know if this will help, but damn, I like it.

I loved Dion! That's why I'm bitter about this! I know it's about winning so how do we know Glenn is gonna fit? G-Love was already fitting in well and they want to risk it on the chance that Glenn will with only 9 games left. Again WTF

[Solid D]

At one time, Glenn Robinson had the best mid-range game of anyone in the NBA. At one time...

[timvp]

G-Love was pretty much a G-Scrub. I liked how he played in his first game as a Spur ... but it was downhill after that.

[Ginofan]

G-Love was pretty much a G-Scrub. I liked how he played in his first game as a Spur ... but it was downhill after that.

he played in 7 games! Only getting double digit minutes 4 out of 7 games. He wasn't played such huge minutes to even become a scrub. When he was in he hustled and did wanted him to.

Sorry I'm just not liking this deal right now.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

G-Love was pretty much a G-Scrub. I liked how he played in his first game as a Spur ... but it was downhill after that.


Dropping "G-Love" is an easy choice if Robinson has anything left in the tank.

[whottt]

I like it, I like alot, and let me tell you why...

First of all, TimVP and Kori are gonna hate him because he plays no D...Get past that and this guy is a huge pick for this team if he is in shape....

But this guy can flat out score, he can score under pressure, he can score without warming up...he's got one of the best midrange J's in NBA history...

The Spurs did not pick this guy up for his defense...and if they even think they can make him a defender they are on crack...

I have to hope the Spurs realize this guy isn't going to help on D and the reason for his signing is to be a scoring spark off the bench...and he will fucking jam in that role IMO. Just the fact the Spurs considered this guy to me signals a philosophical change for the Spurs and a realization that in fact sometimes they need offense...


Don't expect this guy to challenge for a starting spot or even a regular bench role and you won't be disppointed. The way I envision this guy being used is like Vinnie Johnson was used on the Pistons...instant offense, 5-6 buckets in a row in a heated 3rd quarter..

This guy will will pull bodies off of Duncan, he will open up the paint for Parker and Manu to dominate...and he's not a bad passer either...he's also pretty good at stealing the ball for a bigman....and he's can hit 3's...and he's not a choker at all.


On paper this is a freaking awesome pick up and this is a huge boost to our title hopes...

If anyone needs a refresher of what Robinson can do...think about how effective he was in the 3rd and 4th quarters of all those losses against the Bucks...

And while he is no angel...he isn't the ball hog he has been made out to be...playing with AI and Cassell and Ray Allen balls can get kind of scarce...he's also a good passer...

This is a huge pick up for the Spurs if Robinson is in shape and can figure out the offense and defense in time...

But that midrange J and that high PCT scoring ability is as good as any SF in the NBA...

And when Robinson gets hot...he gets fucking red hot...

There is plenty of reason to be excited about this guy...as long as you aren't expecting D.

[Solid D]

I didn't think Glover would make it to the Post-season roster. It didn't help him much in Denver, when Pop gave him a lot floor time.

[T Park]

Agreed, Glover showed mediocre D and an offense that made Ron Mercers look all star like.

I gotta say, I aint haitin this.

There is one thing Glenn can do, is instant O.


BTW, if a guy is bad on D, who else would make a guy not look bad, than Pop's defensive system and Tim Duncan and Rasho Nesterovic backing him up.


Definately gives you an alternative to Barry and Brown on the nights they are off,

or Ginobili and Robinson if you need quick O.


Robinson definately has a nice jumper. Its his mentality that worries me.

But, if RC and Pop think hes alright, then thats good enough in my book.


Who wouldve thought, I thought he was done for the year PHYSICALLY.

[picnroll]

What injury was he out with?

[Solid D]

What injury was he out with?

Robinson? I remember reading he had a bad elbow and a bad ankle at one point.

[whottt]

Look Spur fans need to realize that some of our titles have been won because of guys that weren't boyscouts...Mario Elie was no boyscout and neither was Jack...at the same time they weren't total lowlifes...I think Robinson is about in that same mold...maybe a little bit worse...but he's no Qynel Woods...he's not even a Rasheed Wallace.

But if you need a guy to put the team on his back and carry them for a quarter or a half a quarter...this guy can do it...and he can do it with regularity...and the opposing team will be having having a shit fit over him...he's a great scorer...well he was anyway.

He's not a ballhog...he can and will pass...and this guy is a fearless shooter...

When the Spurs were in the prime of the Duncan Robinsoin era...when the Lakers were in the prime of the Kobe Shaq era...this guy owned both fucking teams...and neither of them had a guy who could stop him when he was hot...

[bonesinaz]

Maybe he will be our Jerome Kersey this year.

[T Park]

Whottt your dead on, but I think they look at it like this.


They dont want him for his D, they want him for offense, but Glenn probobly knows he cant just fuck off on D, hes gotta give EFFORT.

Thats what I think you confuse Whottt, Pop doesn't bench someone for BAD D, he benches them for not giving EFFORT on D.

if Robinson gives effort on D, and shoots with any kind of decency, hes gonna be off the bench immediately, and IMO, take some minutes from Barry or Bowen.

[T Park]

Mario Elie was no boyscout and neither was Jack...at the same time they weren't total lowlifes...

exactly right.

Its not bad to have a guy with TUDE, as long as the tude is not team detrimental.

I dont think Robinson is a bad guy, once again, domestic battery, who knows what happened, we werent there so Im not gonna judge.


I like this signing, if and only if, he does what he did in Milwaukee and Philly, shoot the ball WELL.

[T Park]

Maybe he will be our Jerome Kersey this year.

Jerome Kersey was a crafty defensive veteran witha good baseline jump shot.

Think of a player on the team that STARTS thats already like that.

[Solid D]

I hope the Glenn Gamble pays off.

You know, if you give a job and a meal to a homeless guy...you hope he squares up and uses his opportunity. You hope...

[whottt]

Just be prepared to bitch about his D..if George Karl and Larry Brown couldn't do it then Pop isn't going to succeed either...

I don't envision this guy to have a regular spot in the rotation...I envision this guys role being like that of Steve Kerr in our last title run...a guy who comes out of nowhere and puts an assload of points on the board...because that is what Robinson can do...

If you guys want another team that plays great D and chokes on offense...well you can certainly have that and I am not willing to bet against Pop giving it to you...but sometimes you need offense...

Just start bitching about Robinson's D now...because he sucks on D...

[johnny00]

On paper this is a freaking awesome pick up and this is a huge boost to our title hopes...

If anyone needs a refresher of what Robinson can do...think about how effective he was in the 3rd and 4th quarters of all those losses against the Bucks...

This is a huge pick up for the Spurs if Robinson is in shape and can figure out the offense and defense in time...



And when Robinson gets hot...he gets fucking red hot...

.
I'm still in shock over this.....

Why did we pick this guy up???

You make some valid points Whott, but for goshsakes man, there are too many if's and do you remember whens for me to be comfortable about any of this.

[T Park]

^^^ Exactly.


One thing that DOES bother me, is there is a reason New Orleans didn't want him.


The Hornets, I mean, thats a little worrisome.

[T Park]

if George Karl and Larry Brown couldn't do it then Pop isn't going to succeed either

name me the defensive big men that he played with.


BTW, I dont think Robinson was in Philly when Larry was there.

I think he was there last year, and it was Chris FOrd, and others.

[bonesinaz]

Jerome Kersey was a crafty defensive veteran witha good baseline jump shot.

Think of a player on the team that STARTS thats already like that.


TPark- I know what Kersey did for the 99 Spurs. I am hoping big dog can still hit those jumpers.

[T Park]

Well, if you think jumpers, then I hope he is this year's Jaren Jackson.

[slayermin]

Well, at the very least he isn't a Hedo Turkoglu. If he's open, he's gonna shoot. He is similar to Ron Mercer but Robinson has three point range.

He doesn't have to play great 'd'. He just hast to buy into the system.

[SPARKY]

Since when did Ghost Writer, rascal, Aggie Hoopsfan, and SequSpur join the front office?

[whottt]

name me the defensive big men that he played with


Why do you guys always act like Pop is a miracle worker?

Wasn't he going to turn Brent Barry into a defensive player too for the same reasons? Ron Mercer? Etc?

Did playing with Shaq turn Glenn Rice into a defensive player?


What the fuck? Aren't we already a godmanned good neough defensive team as it fucking is? What do you want, to hold a fucking team scoreless? Aint going to happen...defense isn't the fucking problem, it's not why this team loses...shitty offense is. You can't fucking have Michael Cooper or Dikembe Mutombo at everyu #@%@$%#@$% position.



BTW, I dont think Robinson was in Philly when Larry was there.

I think he was there last year, and it was Chris FOrd, and others.

You might be right about that...maybe it was that they traded for him before Brown left for Detroit or something...In any case, I don't think you can judge this guy by his Philly year, AI seems to have a lot of issues with scoring forwards.

[xcoriate]

^^^ Exactly.


One thing that DOES bother me, is there is a reason New Orleans didn't want him.


The Hornets, I mean, thats a little worrisome.

TPark did he even report? Maybe he pulled a Jim Jackson? Pure speculation though

[slayermin]

Wasn't he going to turn Brent Barry into a defensive player too for the same reasons? Ron Mercer? Etc?

:lol I don't think Barry and Robinson will get too many minutes together.

[T Park]

Why do you guys always act like Pop is a miracle worker?



lol whottt, read what i said, and read what you said.


Im talking about big mean, Rasho, Duncan.


Big guys that are good defensively hide the defensive insufficencies of swingmen.


Settle down.

BTW, Pop is a miracle worker.

He took some kid that couldn't play for the freakin Nets, and made him an NBA Finals champion.


Took a undersized power forward, and made him a god among the Sequ's of the world.

[bonesinaz]

Well, if you think jumpers, then I hope he is this year's Jaren Jackson.

You are right, I was thinking of Jaren Jackson. My brain is mush after a 10 hr Monday. Mybad.

[T Park]

this guy wont be in shape

think for a second, about, if he WAS out of shape, if the Spurs would have bothered signing him.

[T Park]

My brain is mush after a 10 hr Monday

my body is the same way, Ive been stuck in Yuma AZ for over a week and the dust has destroyed my respirotory system.

Ill be back home wednesday afternoon though.


Hopefully in time for the Spurs VS Clippers.

My first game since January 29th.

[bonesinaz]

TPark I live in N AZ and it is blowing like hell up here too. I hate this weather and dust.

Have a safe trip home and I hope you didn't get valley fever while you were in Yuma.:)

[T Park]

no, I got clogged chest, and unable to breath fever.

Hopefully I reclaim breath in west texas.

[pigknuckles]

I wonder if they worked him out before they signed him. I would assume he's in some kind of shape.

[bigbendbruisebrother]

Not a bad list of acheivements for a guy we picked up no strings attached:

*In 2003-04, his first season with the 76ers, missed 40 games (37 due to injury; three due to NBA suspension) including the last 20 games. [Well that part sucks.]
*On March 6, 2002 vs. the LA Clippers, Robinson became the second leading scorer in franchise history, scoring career point 11,596 to pass Sidney Moncrief.
* He became the 159th player in NBA history to pass the 12,000 career point mark in the season finale at Detroit on April 17, 2002.
* Two-time All-Star (2000 and 2001) registered eight points, four rebounds, one assist, one steal and one blocked shot for the 2001 Eastern Conference All-Star Team.
* Scored 28 points on 2/13/01 vs. Philadelphia to become the fifth player in Bucks history to score 10,000 career points
* Passed Junior Bridgeman (9,892 points) for fifth on the Bucks' all-time list in points scored when he had 25 at Minnesota on 1/29/01>
* Also passed Ricky Pierce (1,749 FTM) for fifth on the Bucks' all-time list in free throws made when he shot 9-for-13 from the line at Minnesota on 1/29/01
* Passed Terry Cummings for seventh on the Bucks' all-time list in field goals made vs. Detroit on 1/27/01
* Named NBA Player of the Week (Dec. 11-17) after averaging 28.0 ppg and 10.0 rpg as the Bucks went 3-1
* Moved into seventh on the Bucks' all-time list in minutes played vs. Orlando on 12/26/00
* Scored a career-high 45 points vs. Golden State on 2/25/01, the first Buck to score that many points since Ricky Pierce scored 45 on 12/5/89
* In 1999-2000, ranked 16th in the NBA in points per game (20.9) and second on the Bucks
* Led the Bucks in scoring (18.4 ppg, 19th in the NBA) and ranked 2nd on the team in free-throw percentage (.870, 7th) and rebounds (5.9 rpg) in 1998-99
* Scored a game-high 26 points and matched his career-high with 17 rebounds in a 79-75 victory over the Cleveland Cavaliers on 4/23/99
* Closed the 1997-98 season as the Bucks' all-time franchise leader in three-point attempts (776), 2nd in three-pointers made (264) and 11th in scoring (6,412 points)
* Led the Bucks and ranked 2nd in the NBA in 1997-98 with 41.0 mpg
* Recorded a 1997-98 season-high 42 points (17-29 FG, 3-4 3FG, 5-6 FT), five rebounds and three assists against the Chicago Bulls on 1/2/98
* Reached career-highs in 1996-97 with a team-leading 21.1 ppg, 68 blocked shots, .465 field-goal shooting and .350 three-point shooting
* Named NBA Player of the Week for the week ending 1/12/97, averaging 25.3 ppg, 6.8 rpg and 3.5 apg in 4 games
* Posted a career-high 44 points and 6 assists against the Washington Bullets on 12/7/96
* Notched the first four-point play of his career and the eighth in Bucks history, totaling 37 points, against the Philadelphia 76ers on 1/17/96
* Named to the 1996 United States Olympic Basketball team on 7/30/95, but was forced to withdraw on 6/25/96 due to injury
* Named to the 1994-95 NBA All-Rookie Team after leading all rookies, and the Bucks, in scoring with 21.9 ppg
* Only two-time winner (December, April) of Schick NBA Rookie of the Month honors in 1994-95
* Posted a team-high 21 points, four rebounds and three assists in the Schick Rookie Game during the 1995 NBA All-Star Weekend in Phoenix
* Recipient of the 1994 John Wooden Award as the nation's top college basketball player

[kskonn]

my body is the same way, Ive been stuck in Yuma AZ for over a week and the dust has destroyed my respirotory system.

Ill be back home wednesday afternoon though.


Hopefully in time for the Spurs VS Clippers.

My first game since January 29th.


wow that is a long time. I will be heading to Tuscon AZ for the next couple weeks. I have to call on some customersdown in Nogales. Is it windy and dusty in AZ right now? It is crazy how so many people on the board are in AZ.
This trade is a great idea. he can come in and give 5-10 very productive minutes. Last time I checked the spurs usually have a 5-10 minute lull at some point in the game.

[whottt]

lol whottt, read what i said, and read what you said.


Im talking about big mean, Rasho, Duncan.


Big guys that are good defensively hide the defensive insufficencies of swingmen.

Yeah...like Duncan and Robinon hid the deficiencies of Elliott against Kobe in 2001....



Settle down.

BTW, Pop is a miracle worker.

He took some kid that couldn't play for the freakin Nets, and made him an NBA Finals champion.

Jax always had offensive ability...and he wasn't that great of a defender here...he was just better than poor ole Smitty. Jax lacked discipline...and I do give Pop credit for instilling that in him...

Robinson just sucks at D...some guys just fucking do...they just move slower on D and don't have the mindset to play it...that doesn't mean they can't help your team immensely...

Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, and Barkley were 3 guys who sucked on defense....

The Suns went from lottery team to best record in the NBA by adding the worst defender in the NBA.





Took a undersized power forward, and made him a god among the Sequ's of the world.

Gave him a chance...what he didn't give him was his drive and determination.

[whottt]

Not a bad list of acheivements for a guy we picked up no strings attached:



Right...and if he's half the player he once was he's about 70 times a better player than Dion Glover.

[bigbendbruisebrother]

Seriously wtf! :depressed

I thought G-Love was working out pretty well here...then they just go and throw him out the door and sign Glenn Robinson?! Why is this happening so damn late in the season?! This is crap, and I'm bitter! :cuss

Dion Glover was another guy who hustled like hell but couldn't contribute offensively. Whottt is right (I know I'm a newbie, but that felt wierd); we need a player who can come off the bench and score. As far as defense, here's a small silver lining. Bruce Bowen sits when the guy he's guarding (usually the other team's cheif offensive threat) sits. If Robinson's in shape, and can shake enough rust off to hit some shots, I suspect we'll have a guy who can give us a plus points situation in the minutes he'll play.

[ChumpDumper]

One thing that DOES bother me, is there is a reason New Orleans didn't want him.Youth movement. Expiring contract.

[T Park]

No one would've stopped Kobe that year, but I think Bowen would've slowed him down more than a 1 legged Sean Elliott did.


Come on, Duncan Nesterovic will get his guys funnelled to them.


Thats the scheme. Funnel all players to the baseline and let the bigs shut em down.



Settle down whott, Im not saying hes gonna be Bruce Bowen numero dos, but hes not gonna be Ron Mercer either.


But whottt, to win championships you HAVE to play SOME defense, you can't just discount it totally.

If you think you can, you didn't pay attention in 03.

[Das Texan]

wow.


didnt see that one coming.



spurs have nothing to lose here, big dog can prove to be a very pleasant surprise, and if he is...we win. I like that.

[PM5K]

Where does Spurs news always break?

:smokin

When Spurs news breaks, SpursTalk.com fixes it.....

[Rummpd]

When is the last time the Spurs had 3 current or former all stars on roster (99, Robinson, Duncan and Elliott, now Duncan, this other Robinson and Manu).

More I think about it a great pickup.

[timvp]

I'm not expecting any defense. I'm going to give him the Chuck Person treatment -- if he hits shots, I'm happy.

P.S.

I find it odd that Whottt thinks dog fighting > domestic violence. If he hit his wife or girlfriend, he's lower scum then a guy who makes his dog fight.

[T Park]

If he hit his wife or girlfriend

agreed.

But once again, it could've been BS, we werent there we dont know, who knows.

[Kori Ellis]

He pleaded guilty and was convicted.

[timvp]

:lol

If you asked T Park yesterday what he thought of Glenn Robinson, he probably would have said he's a "wife hitting, peanut head, liberal looser."

Now that he's a Spur, he probably is just a good guy whose wife set him up.

Classic.

[whottt]

I find it odd that Whottt thinks dog fighting > domestic violence. If he hit his wife or girlfriend, he's lower scum then a guy who makes his dog fight.

To tell you the truth I didn't know he was charged with assaulting his girlfriend...if you knew my opinion on wife beating Jason Kidd you'd know that I don't have a high opinion of spouse abusers...especially since in my line of work about 70% of my business is related to domestic violence.

I just googled it and if he did what he was accused of then he is truly scum...the fact that he got caught with a gun pretty much does put him on Qyentel Woods level.

At the same time...about half the domestic violence calls I get are from wives and girlfriends who want to get their man out of jail after they got him put there because the got pissed off during a fight...there's a lot of false domestic violence charges...woman gets pissed and makes the call and doesn't realize that once the police are called someone is going to jail...and that charges are going to be pressed whether she wants it or not.

[T Park]

If you asked T Park yesterday what he thought of Glenn Robinson, he probably would have said he's a "wife hitting, peanut head, liberal looser."

No, I didnt know he did.


But, keep ASS U ME ing TIMVP.


Once again your specialty.

[Kori Ellis]

Well the story on Glenn Robinson was pretty clear cut. He went to ex-girlfriends house, when she opened the door he started hitting her and yelling something like, "I'm ready to die and we're all going to die." Their child was present.

[T Park]

Then IMO, the guy is scum, and Im not totally exstatic over the signing.


Id rather lose with good guys, than win with shit heads like Iverson, Qyentell.


Color me dissapointed.


Shit, maybe I wont be going to any spurs games this year.

[timvp]

That's alright. Glenn Robinson is a Spur now. At least he doesn't have a sandwhich shop like that peanut head Malik Rose. [/tpark]

[T Park]

Wow, Glenn Robinson sounds like a winner.


Adios Spurs, youve lost my season tickets.

[CHAMPS AGAIN]

[QUOTE=timvp]I'm not expecting any defense. I'm going to give him the Chuck Person treatment -- if he hits shots, I'm happy.

If every player hits their shots everone is HAPPY :lol :lol

[T Park]

Fuck you TIMVP, read what Ive just written.

[wildbill2u]

I remember somebody brought up this possibility last fall and we all laughed him off the site. :oops

Oh well, we've all been bitching about the current team's lack of outside shooting. Manu and Parker are not outside shooters and get almost all their points on drives. Bowen is streaky and sometimes has the 'yips' and won't take the shot. Barry apparently hasn't convinced Pop that his recent streak of good shooting is permanent.

So all HAIL, BIG DOG.

[CHAMPS AGAIN]

Wow, Glenn Robinson sounds like a winner.


Adios Spurs, youve lost my season tickets.

Good for you, REAL SPURS FAN CAN NOW BY YOUR SEASON TICKETS now if you could just leave this forum everbody will be HAPPY. :elephant :elephant :lol

PS
I already have season tickets.

[kskonn]

Wow, Glenn Robinson sounds like a winner.


Adios Spurs, youve lost my season tickets.


His basketball ability aside. It is sad to know that my season ticket money goes to a guy that did something like that to his girlfriend. very dissapointing.

[whottt]

I pretty much agree that if he did what he is accused of then he is scum...looks like Pop's quest to drag the franchise standards through the mud is still on going.

Let me make sure I got the way thiings are in Spursville:

Money>Title
Title>Total scumbags playing for this team.


I wonder what the laws are wherever this ocurred though...if they are like Texas Laws then it doesn't matter if the girlfriend actually wanted charges pressed or not, it dxoesn't matter if she is full of shit or not...it matters what transpired at the time of the call and how mad she might have been......the State prosecutes...and a lot of times it's easier, quicker, and less expensive(because of legal fees) to just plead guilty....

It happens all the time where I work....it happens most of the time where I work.

[kskonn]

Good for you, REAL SPURS FAN CAN NOW BY YOUR SEASON TICKETS now if you could just leave this forum everbody will be HAPPY. :elephant :elephant :lol

PS
I already have season tickets.


^^^^^ not true. He brings goot takes. Please do not speak for everybody.

[Kori Ellis]

He got off on some weapon charge, but he was convicted of assault and battery.

[SequSpur]

Fuck you TIMVP, read what Ive just written.


Interesting....................

[MannyIsGod]

:lol

If you asked T Park yesterday what he thought of Glenn Robinson, he probably would have said he's a "wife hitting, peanut head, liberal looser."

Now that he's a Spur, he probably is just a good guy whose wife set him up.

Classic.

so true, so damn true.

[kskonn]

I pretty much agree that if he did what he is accused of then he is scum...looks like Pop's quest to drag the franchise standards through the mud is still on going.

Let me make sure I got the way thiings are in Spursville:

Money>Title
Title>Total scumbags playing for this team.


I wonder what the laws are wherever this ocurred though...if they are like Texas Laws then it doesn't matter if the girlfriend actually wanted charges pressed or not, it dxoesn't matter if she is full of shit or not...it matters what transpired at the time of the call and how mad she might have been......the State prosecutes...and a lot of times it's easier, quicker, and less expensive(because of legal fees) to just plead guilty....

It happens all the time where I work....it happens most of the time where I work.

I am assuming you are in Law Enforcement? I ask because that is pretty interesting insight. It is a little scary knowing that in this type of call it is guilty until proven innocent.

[Kori Ellis]

Here's something that was written about it at the time ....


Milwaukee Bucks basketball player Glenn Robinson was arrested in July 2002 after assaulting his ex-fiancée, Jonta French. The couple has a child, who Robinson wanted to visit. Once French let Robinson into the house, he reportedly began to hit her. During Robinson’s bond hearing, prosecutors said he told French that he was “ready to die and we’re both going to die,” reports USA Today. Robinson was charged with domestic battery, assault and illegal possession of a firearm. He was freed on bond.

Then he was convicted on the domestic battery and assault charges and got one year probation.

[kskonn]

He got off on some weapon charge, but he was convicted of assault and battery.


Kori, perhaps when you get the opportunity to get up close and get to talk to him you can let us know what you think about him? That would be pretty cool insight.

[SequSpur]

Give him a headband and some tattoos and it will be okay. /GW

[whottt]

I am assuming you are in Law Enforcement? I ask because that is pretty interesting insight. It is a little scary knowing that in this type of call it is guilty until proven innocent.


I work for a defense attorney...I do bail bonds for him...nearly every call I get that isn't a DWI...is a girlfriend...or a boyfriend...who wants to get their spouse out of jail after they just got them put in jail and didn't realize the consequences.

There are exceptions...this one poor schmuck has a Russian Mail Order Bride who married him to come to America and now wants to get rid of him because she found someone with more money and better looking...

This bitch has a standing restraining order on this stupid guy...yet she calls him for money or something...and when he comes over there if they argue she calls the cops and gets him put in jail...and this guy is the biggest wimp on the planet...

This woman is a total bitch...but he's also incredibly stupid for continuing to go around here...but she's hot and he is a desperate loser.

Sorry for the digression but people abuse the crap out of these laws all the time for personal vendettas...and my boss makes a fortune off of it...Even men make these fake calls sometimes and get their girl friends arrested...or sometimes the girl will call thinking the guy is gonna get arrested and she'll end up getting arrested....very few of them that I get are legtimate calls...usually it's one person trying to control the other in an argument.


And the reason I believe most of them are false is that my boss is usually hired by the person that got the other person put in jail. And that person usually doesn't want to press charges.

It sound ridiculous I know...but it is true, at least in my experience.

[timvp]

Why the hate, T Park? GRob is a loser but I don't think he'll be a big enough part of the team to give up season tickets over. He doesn't have great character but if his job is to knock down a few midrange jumpers once a week, it's no big deal. It's not like the Spurs signed Karl Malone or anything.

:smokin

P.S.

I knew there was some connection between Nazr Mohammed and Glenn Robinson that I had read about.


Wears No. 13 in honor of Wilt Chamberlain and former teammate Glenn Robinson...

So GRob must have had a pretty big impact on Nazr in Atlanta for him to honor him like that. I'm not sure if that is a good thing or not.


P.P.S.

Why are the Spurs trying to reconstruct the 2002-03 Atlanta Hawks? At one point or another, the following players from that Hawks team have played for the Spurs:

Dion Glover
Nazr Mohammed
Brandon Williams
Amal McCaskill
Mikki Moore
Mike Wilks
and now Glenn Robinson

[kskonn]

I work for a defense attorney...I do bail bonds for him...nearly every call I get that isn't a DWI...is a girlfriend...or a boyfriend...who wants to get their spouse out of jail after they just got them put in jail and didn't realize the consequences.

There are exceptions...this one poor schmuck has a Russian Mail Order Bride who married him to come to America and now wants to get rid of him because she found someone with more money and better looking...

This bitch has a standing restraining order on this stupid guy...yet she calls him for money or something...and when he comes over there if they argue she calls the cops and gets him put in jail...and this guy is the biggest wimp on the planet...

This woman is a total bitch...but he's also incredibly stupid for continuing to go around here...but she's hot and he is a desperate loser.

Sorry for the digression but people abuse the crap out of these laws all the time for personal vendettas...and my boss makes a fortune off of it...Even men make these fake calls sometimes and get their girl friends arrested...or sometimes the girl will call thinking the guy is gonna get arrested and she'll end up getting arrested....very few of them that I get are legtimate calls...usually it's one person trying to control the other in an argument.


And the reason I believe most of them are false is that my boss is usually hired by the person that got the other person put in jail. And that person usually doesn't want to press charges.

It sound ridiculous I know...but it is true, at least in my experience.


That is crazy. It sounds like Sexual Harrasment. I know women who have admitted to claiming Sexual Harrasment to get a guy fired because he did not call them back etc..... It sucks for the people involved but it sucks more for people with ligitimate problems. Eventually people will stop responding like they do now. That is when people get hurt. These type of games ruin peoples life.

[T Park]

Why the hate, T Park?

people that hit there wives or gfs are as low on the pondscum list as terrorists IMO.


The Spurs organization sold out.


BTW, once again, you throw out a totall recockulas charge but dont retract???


I said, I would have been in favor of him being here before him signing here.


But once again, you assume before asking questions.


Of course, Atypical response from fuckface Manny, but I expected that.

[SequSpur]

:lol

Fuckface??

Nice!

[T Park]

He doesn't have great character but if his job is to knock down a few midrange jumpers once a week, it's no big deal

Fuck that, it is a big deal.

When you sell out for players with bad character your no better than the goddamn fuckin Trailblazers.

[T Park]

Well Sequ, Ive tried to be civil to him, but he continues to be a fuckface.

SO fuck him.

Im tired of trying be a nice guy and it being thrown back in my face.

[timvp]

Alright, I'll apologize for whatever I did to illicit the "F You" callout.

See you at the next Spurs game.

Holla, playdog.

[whottt]

It's out of control but the reason the state now prosecutes is because is they get called and then people make up with each other and the state doesn't act...then if someone gets killed later on it's a huge PR nightmare for the State and everyone points the finger at law enforcement...

This way no one can ever say the State and Law enforcement failed to act...and that's why they do it...

I also imagine that most Lawyers love this law because it's guranteed business for them...

But I think the main reason for this law is because of the OJ Simpson case and similar cases...where there was a history of letigimate domestic abuse but one person didn't want to charge the other...and eventually that person got murdered etc...

It's not really that bad of a law...they get called and they act...and they don't let relationship dysfuncions, cold feet or fear get in the way the way individuals in a love relationship will...but it is true that sometimes these people are not really guilty or both parties were equally guilty...and they just plead guilty just to get it over with depending on who the judge is and how agreeable the DA is feeling. I don't totally understand the way it works because I am not a lawyer...

[T Park]

Alright, I'll apologize for whatever I did to illicit the "F You" callout.


Well fuck TImvp, this is T Park, not fuckin Whottt for christ sake.


Dont assume everything I freakin think Bro.


And I doubt you will see me at the next game.

[kskonn]

Well fuck TImvp, this is T Park, not fuckin Whottt for christ sake.


Dont assume everything I freakin think Bro.


And I doubt you will see me at the next game.

becuase you are not going anymore or because you won't be back from AZ?

[SequSpur]

Can I have your tickets?

[timvp]

I know where you sit.

:smokin

[T Park]

Not going anymore.


Trading a guy like Malik for a nice cool guy like Nazr Mohammed is cool.

But, when you start signing guys like Glenn Robinson, then your totally undoing what you say you SUPPOSEDLY stand for.

[ChumpDumper]

It would be interesting to see any follow up about the incident.

[Mr. Body]

A slightly more talented Ron Mercer.

Pop realized the Spurs can only win a title with a Robinson on the roster.

Really, I see the reason for this more for the regular season. Pop wants more scoring punch in the lineup until Duncan comes back.

Succeeding with that, it's a try-out to see just how lousy he is on defense and just what a head case he is in the locker room, and whether they can put up with that. And if they can, then hey, you have some potentially potent offense off the bench, because this guy is guaranteed to jack it any time he has a touch (just like Ronny Mercer).

[T Park]

I know where you sit.



and I know where you sit too, and hiding under that fishin hat aint gonna fool me :)

[SequSpur]

Not going anymore.


Trading a guy like Malik for a nice cool guy like Nazr Mohammed is cool.

But, when you start signing guys like Glenn Robinson, then your totally undoing what you say you SUPPOSEDLY stand for.


Now you're talking. Screw Greg Popovich!

:smokin

[kskonn]

Not going anymore.


Trading a guy like Malik for a nice cool guy like Nazr Mohammed is cool.

But, when you start signing guys like Glenn Robinson, then your totally undoing what you say you SUPPOSEDLY stand for.


Damn... Thats hardcore

[T Park]

It does honestly change my view of pop, if this guy plead guitly for beating up his wife.


Come on pop, you championed for years "We have good guys"

Now you sign a guy thats totally 180 degrees from that???

I dont care if this is in the past.


This isnt any better than WTF goddamn Allen fuckin Iverson did.


And to shut the fuck the Icemans of the goddman forum, no I dont care that hes fuckin black.


Id say the same thing about a POS white guy too.

[Russ]

Off-court stuff aside, this looks like the best move the Spurs have made this year. This guy is like Sonny Liston with a jump shot.

[T Park]

Off-court stuff aside

off court stuff aside,

JR Rider was a great basketball player.


Off the field stuff aside, OJ Simpson is a fantastic football player and person.

[kskonn]

It does honestly change my view of pop, if this guy plead guitly for beating up his wife.


Come on pop, you championed for years "We have good guys"

Now you sign a guy thats totally 180 degrees from that???

I dont care if this is in the past.


This isnt any better than WTF goddamn Allen fuckin Iverson did.


And to shut the fuck the Icemans of the goddman forum, no I dont care that hes fuckin black.


Id say the same thing about a POS white guy too.


yea I have to agree. Knowing all of this is a little dissapointing. however I would like to see some follow up to the charges.

[SequSpur]

And to shut the fuck the Icemans of the goddman forum, no I dont care that hes fuckin black.

Dude, you are a racist.

Did you have to use the f word?

[Kori Ellis]

however I would like to see some follow up to the charges.

Follow up is that he plead guilty to assault and battery, was convicted and got one year probabation and got off on the gun charge.

I'll see if I can find more info.

[T Park]

Dude, you are a racist.

really? News to me.

[TheWriter]

So he pulled a Kidd.

Big deal.

I remember when Kidd was highly wanted.

[T Park]

Funny cause If I was, wouldn't I not like Nazr Mohammed?


interesting...

[ChumpDumper]

By follow-up I mean was there any community service involved, does he do anything now like speak against domestic violence, is he still with that woman, etc.

Just curious more than anything; I imagine the Spurs had similar questions.

[T Park]

So its ok to beat your wife Buddy??

Not that Im suprised a poster of your huge intellect Mr Mayor that you would be in favor of it.

[kskonn]

Follow up is that he plead guilty to assault and battery, was convicted and got one year probabation and got off on the gun charge.

I'll see if I can find more info.


Yea I was just curious as to, did his ex ever take him back. Does he have a history besides this. Did his teammates ever talk about the incident? I have not been able to find anything. So I assume it is like you said, he pleaded guilty got probation, end of story.

[Kori Ellis]

By follow-up I mean was there any community service involved, does he do anything now like speak against domestic violence, is he still with that woman, etc.

Just curious more than anything; I imagine the Spurs had similar questions.

I don't know about community service. It may have been part of the probation. That woman was his ex-fiancee at the time of the incident as far as I know.

[theballaplaya]

Oh no you didn't.

[howbouthemspurs]

I think he's another steal for the spurs

[whottt]

I think Robinson probably was guilty and I don't think this is one of the types of cases I was using as an example...

#1.Robinson had the money to fight it indefinitely if he truly was innocent.

#2.The Gun...

Still, he has money and a girlfriend...and there's always a little room for doubt there with $$ to be had.

[whottt]

TPark...get over it...all this means is that the Spurs are no different than any other team in the NBA and Pop isn't god...the class and standards of this organization were because of the influence of David Robinson...not Gregg Poppovich...

It just makes us no different than any other team in the NBA...

What it does mean though is that it's time to end the endless selfdicksucking and arrogance towards fans of other teams over the Spurs being a "classy" organization...we're no different than the Lakers or TrailBlazers, Pistons or Pacers......that's what it means.

[ChumpDumper]

I have no doubt that something happened and that he was guilty of something; just wanted to know about after the sentencing.

[T Park]

he settled quickly and didnt fight means

A. he was innocent but lazy to fight the charges

B. the DA had stars in eyes and didnt want to prosecute the "Big Dog"


Im gonna take B.

[T Park]

we're no different than the Lakers or TrailBlazers

We used to be.

Now that were not, that changes things.

Period.


Ill get over it, the day you get over the Malik Rose trade.

[TheWriter]

So its ok to beat your wife Buddy??

Not that Im suprised a poster of your huge intellect Mr Mayor that you would be in favor of it.

In favor of spousal abuse? No.

Where did I make light of that? Where did I endorse it Senior Dumbass?

I simply don't send the man down the river without a paddle because of it. If Kidd can be forgiven, then so can Robinson.

If the Pope can forgive the man who tried to end his life, then so can Robinson be forgiven.

Get it, Senior Retard.

[whottt]

We used to be.

Now that were not, that changes things.

Period.

It also means Pop is full of shit when he talks about how character is always a priority BS...who told you that first TPark? That's just Pop glomming off of Drob.



Ill get over it, the day you get over the Malik Rose trade.

I'll be over the Malik Rose trade after we win a title and Nazr pulls his head out of his assssssssssssssssss...and not before.

[TheWriter]

Whottt and TPark, are both of you still cat fighting about the same man? :depressed

[T Park]

I'll be over the Malik Rose trade after we win a title


so what the fuck, your telling ME to get over something??

Thats rich, hypocrit.

[whottt]

The Malik Rose trade happened recently...

Pop coveting scumbags is nothing new, it's been that way for a while...what's new is him actually landing one..

Get over it because

A.It's not the end of the World(just our image)
B.You were told of the reality a while back...

In fact I think you owe me an apology...Popsucker.

[T Park]

Other than Qyntell Woods and Glenn Robinson,

who else has he tried to get that is a scumbag?

[whottt]

Rasheed Wallace is the first one that comes to mind...you seriously have to ask?

[TheWriter]

Jason Kidd
Stephen Jackson
Karl Malone

Oh god... scumbags. Spurs trying to sign them... oh lord is the world about to end???/

[T Park]

Stephen Jackson is not a scumbag.


He was a stooge who didn't have his head on straight get it right.


Rasheed??? Alright, thats 1


Qyntell Rasheed Robinson

who else???

and yeah whottt, I SERIOUSLY have to ask.

[T Park]

In fact I think you owe me an apology

Ill give you an apology the same day you give me a microcom of respect shiteater.

[smeagol]

Malone.

How many more you want?

[whottt]

Dunno TPark...how many times has Webber been busted with weed?

Latrell Sprewell?

Wasn't he like Kobe's biggest defender?

Jason Kidd?

Fuck...why don't you ask me who he has had a hardon for that wasn't a scumbag...

[TheWriter]

Stephen Jackson is not a scumbag.


He was a stooge who didn't have his head on straight get it right.

Hitting your wife = Scumbag.

Hitting innocent fan = not scumbag.

Oooooh-tay!