Rasheed Wallace signs with the Celtics

[HarlemHeat37]

God I'd pay a ticket to see your face if we sign him and end up being HUGE on a ship' run... Crow is better served cold...

My face would be smiling, because we won the title..why would I care about being wrong? I'm not being paid for my opinions here LOL..I'm speaking facts..I live in NY, Wilcox is constantly criticized here for his work ethic, I'm not making this shit up..

[mytespurs]

Now Celtics is the best team in the NBA by far...

You think? I'm not so sure about that......the Lakers, if healthy, can probably take them.....it all depends on Garnett's health among other things.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Is it a certainty we get McDyess?

Again, I'm not surprised Rasheed went to Boston. Perhaps he figures he has a better shot at winning another ring with the Celtics in the "Leastern" conference vs. the WC.:king

And Boston really wooed him vs the Spurs who didn't seem to show much interest though many says he's a better fit w/the Spurs than the Celts.

What do you think? :rolleyes

There is no certainty. Certainty is, in all things, an illusion.

[Tully365]

Yes, logic says they will along with reports from RC saying he has free reign to make this team better. They said they will look to use their MLE and make other trades along with using the draft.

So yes, you are wrong.

RC said Holt "challenged" him to make moves that would improve the team. I've never heard RC or anyone else definitively say that the entire MLE could and would be used. If they do I will be very happily surprised, but for now the "fact" that they are willing to have a payroll 7-10 million above the cap is just like the "fact" that Rasheed would be in town on monday or tuesday to discuss joining the spurs... in other words, pure speculation by hopeful fans.

[HarlemHeat37]

Didn't Pop say that the MLE would be used?..I thought I remembered reading that..I could be wrong..

[urunobili]

Didn't Pop say that the MLE would be used?..I thought I remembered reading that..I could be wrong..

Drew Gooden?

[siraulo23]

Hedo 2.0?

He'll change his mind tomorrow...

[Spurs9]

fuck wilcox, I don't want him on our team. Lets get Zaza.

[Mugen]

well that's lame.

maybe the FO is trying to go TOO young.

[The Truth #6]

It's entirely possible Rasheed just didn't want to come here. It's unlikely we'll really know, but more than the FO not recruiting heavily enough, he might have had his sights set somewhere else.

Whenever the EN starts writing about a player we're interested in it usually feels like a smokescreen later when we end up with someone no one thought of.

Given RC's confidence, I'm thinking a trade has already been arranged. A proposed trade would be more reliable than entering into a bidding war via free agency.

But that's just a guess.

[bishopospurs]

let sheed walk, let him lose. Out of Us, Cleveland, LA, Orlando, and Boston, I would say Boston is the worst team on the list. Having the oldest set of superstars supported by the weakest bench makes for injuries. Sheed is not a smart man. Good thing :pop: is.

[Obstructed_View]

I think either the Spurs weren't interested or the Celtics told Rasheed their contract offer was expiring by the end of the weekend. Otherwise, the timing doesn't make much sense.

Splitter?

Frankly, I think I'd rather have Gooden than anyone, including Rasheed and McDyess.

[SPURSGOAT]

Not surprised.... shit like this always happens to us... we think we are going to get some big name like Maggette or Sheed and then get fooled... at least we didn't have to wait weeks for him to make his decison.

[Obstructed_View]

Not surprised.... shit like this always happens to us... we think we are going to get some big name like Maggette or Sheed and then get fooled... at least we didn't have to wait weeks for him to make his decison.

As mentioned, there seems to be no reason for Rasheed not to have visited San Antonio unless the Spurs told him not to.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

-Traded Scola to a division rival for nothing
-Didn't do jack shit to improve the team after winning the 2007 championship. The rest of the league got better while the Spurs assumed that a group of senior citizens would be enough to repeat

I don't blame the FO for missing out on Rasheed though. No big name FA wants to play in SA(couldn't even convince Cory Maggete to come play here).

This is just a dumb post. Maggette took more money to go elsewhere. Can't blame him for cashing in.

[Obstructed_View]

This is just a dumb post. Maggette took more money to go elsewhere. Can't blame him for cashing in.

I believe it was a shitload and a half more money, to be more exact.

[MarHill]

This is just a dumb post. Maggette took more money to go elsewhere. Can't blame him for cashing in.

Never let facts get in the way of bad fiction!!!

Thanks for reminding us...that Maggette took way more money than Spurs could offer last season.

[afireinside20]

Gee, yet another free agent spurns us, oh well, fuck him he'll be another Jason Kidd and not win shit anymore cuz of it. Bring On Mcdyess or even Lamar Odom, Odom has good athleticism that we can use. Even Big Baby sounds good, though he's sorta like a bigger version of Malik Rose era 2003. Wer'e still gonna get that championship!

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I believe it was a shitload and a half more money, to be more exact.

Well, yeah, if you want to be technical... :lol

[phxspurfan]

With how much the Spurs have been publicizing the RJ acquisition, I find it hard to believe they're going to offer the entire MLE on one FA big. I think they don't have the cash to do it. Unless a ton of us decide to buy some season tickets all of a sudden.

[rayray2k8]

Blessing in disguise.

You really didn't want a PF that camps on the perimeter and refuses to play in the post. You didn't want a big man that has very pedestrian rebounding numbers. You didn't want a highly skilled player who only wants to put forth effort half the time. You didn't want a head case that's capable of blowing up at any moment. You don't want a key player who shows up to a playoff game 2 minutes before game time, or a guy who lets his team down by fouling out in the last several minutes of a playoff game when you're only down by 3 possessions.

Target Dice. Go after him hard. And get him a ring. His 15 foot jumper is AUTOMATIC. His effort and desire is second to none. He had 29 games this year w/ 10+ rebounds compared to Sheeds 17. He is EXACTLY what you all need.

Get it done Spurs.

I'm sold. :)
Piston fans would know best and this guy 15 footers were automatic.
I started to see Sheed might not have been a good fit for the spurs and how he could cost
them a game with one of his tantrums.
Spurs look good at the 5 now with todays signing.
We're still looking for that 4, lets move on and get this guy.

[Blackjack]

First off..

:pctoss:

:exhale

Well, and you wonder why Pop's love and appreciation for Fin is never-ending...

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed but at the same time, I'm a Spurs fan. I'm aware as to how this free-agency thing goes..

He would have been a great fit basketball-wise, but I guess you cant take the east-coast out of a guy.

I hate that he's going to be play with those two D-Bags Garnett and Allen (who've made me root against the one team I used to like outside of the Spurs) but it is what it is.

It's strange, though. I mean, it almost feels like the Spurs' biggest target was 'Sheed but they didn't seemingly want him to be. Like his skillset and ability fit their needs to a T basketball-wise, so they felt it was a no-brainer/gots-to-do acquisition, but it wasn't what they wanted to do in their heart of hearts; their lack of effort leading me to that conclusion.

All is not lost and I'm sure they've got something in the works, but for now...:depressed

[elbamba]

I am not upset about this at all. I think he is too old and loses interest fast. Plus there is the Wake Forest v. North Carolina ACC rivalry. Its there.

I wanted Zaza from the beginning and I think he would fit well next to TIm. He is also a real center. I could live with Gooden if we could get them both for the Mid level I would be happy, but I realize it is unlikely. However, that would solidify our front line.

[EricB]

I'd go balls out for Antonio McDyess now if it were me personally.

The haislip signing makes sense now if Sheed's agent calls and says he's going to Boston.

Spurs wanted a shooting big, Hasilip does that, and now they will want a low post big and that might be McDyess.

At least I hope it is :lol

[elbamba]

It's strange, though. I mean, it almost feels like the Spurs' biggest target was 'Sheed but they didn't seemingly want him to be. Like his skillset and ability fit their needs to a T basketball-wise, so they felt it was a no-brainer/gots-to-do acquisition, but it wasn't what they wanted to do in their heart of hearts; their lack of effort leading me to that conclusion.


I wonder if this was really the case. I don't think they were that aggressive for a reason, I really don't think they believed that he would work here. I think they are looking for younger and cheaper alternatives. We can find a younger guy to jack up three pointers. Wallace was old and not nearly as effective as a defensive player from what I saw from him last year.

[Chillen]

At least he is out East and didn't sign with the Lakers.

[Duncan2177]

Time to move to plan B McDyess

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

It was Sheed or Bust.......

[Russ]

It has to be that the Spurs didn't truly want him. Perhaps they told him the team wasn't willing to match the Celtics' offer. The timing is just too weird to mean anything else.

I know one Spurs fan who didn't want him.

[50 cent]

Now it's Big Baby or bust.

[BlackSwordsMan]

can spurs get rasho back?

[Blackjack]

I wonder if this was really the case. I don't think they were that aggressive for a reason, I really don't think they believed that he would work here. I think they are looking for younger and cheaper alternatives. We can find a younger guy to jack up three pointers. Wallace was old and not nearly as effective as a defensive player from what I saw from him last year.

I don't think you read the part that you didn't highlight...

[Spurs_210]

As a mentor for our young bigs... Dice>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sheed

This is why I was never really big on Sheed and wanted Dice to come to the Spurs. Considering most our frontcourt has never played an NBA game we don't need a headcase. Plus after watching a whole team quit in the close out game against the Cavs the only one who showed heart and tried to win the game was Dice. That showed the heart of a champion and the kind of mentor we need. I think most haven't really watch either of them play this year otherwise they would realize its not a big lost and would prefer Dice.

[mytespurs]

What do you think? :rolleyes

There is no certainty. Certainty is, in all things, an illusion.


Actually I don't know.....just wondering if there were rumors out there that the spurs may try to lock him up.......

[groovezone]

I guess this is because the Spurs did not truly show interest. Wonder why? If the Spurs end up with Bass or Big Baby I will throw the f up.

Here... have a bucket.

[groovezone]

That's an f'ing shame. I really think the FO is going to go half assed here after a promising start. We are fucked without big man help and there are hardly many options left.

Pops Mensah-Bonsu!

[groovezone]

So Bonner would still be our starting center LOL

Yes, Ron Howard will still be manning the center position with reckless abandon.

[groovezone]

I find it hard to believe sheed would up with Boston before even listening to the Spurs. Sorry Spurs with Sheed are better then Celtics with him. Is he gonna come off the bench now for Bos?

Boston is not a contender anylonger. I would be shocked if they were higher than the 4th seed next season. Spurs with Sheed have a real shot at a title.

Must've been one helluva dinner the Celtics took him to.

[thOOdee]

crazy scenario time......ANY CHANCE FOR MARC GASOL?? OR CAMBY? S&T???

[50Bestspurever]

It's a given that Wallace isn't the sharpest tool in the shed when it comes to basketball smarts, but when it comes to buisness. Damn!!! I mean to not even try the market on your offers??? What a dumbass...:lol

[DPG21920]

Here... have a bucket.

I knew it :lol

[ffadicted]

crazy scenario time......ANY CHANCE FOR MARC GASOL?? OR CAMBY? S&T???

Gasol would be awesome, but I don't like the idea of trading Roger Mason. He was unreal in the regular season as the 2 guard, and we need someone to share minutes with ginobili. So unless the grizz are ok with a retarded shit deal for them to get marc over here, I can't see it. But then again, we are talking about the griz :king

[manu the best]

McDyess has to be the target.


i don't think so .. if sheed is really going to booston .. our target should be a young talented big man ..

[SouthTexasRancher]

Antonio McDyess has just been removed from the Detroit Pistons roster over on Yahoo: NBA. Glern Davis is still showing up on Boston's roster. McDyess's name was there an hour ago. And Fab is still listed. I thought Detroit released him Friday???

Hmmm, R.C. do you have something you would like to tell us Spurs fans?

28 Afflalo, Arron (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4305) SG 6-5 215 10/15/85 2 UCLA
38 Brown, Kwame (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3511) FC 6-11 270 3/10/82 8 None
12 Bynum, Will (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3999) G 6-0 185 1/4/83 4 Georgia Tech
Daye, Austin (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4620) F 6-11 200 6/5/88 R Gonzaga
32 Hamilton, Richard (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3330) GF 6-7 193 2/14/78 10 Connecticut
Jerebko, Jonas (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4644) F 6-9 220 3/2/87 R
54 Maxiell, Jason (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3952) FC 6-7 260 2/18/83 4 Cincinnati
7 Oberto, Fabricio (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3988) C 6-10 250 3/21/75 4 None
22 Prince, Tayshaun (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3621) F 6-9 215 2/28/80 7 Kentucky
42 Sharpe, Walter (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4495) F 6-9 245 7/16/86 1 UAB
3 Stuckey, Rodney (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4293) G 6-5 205 4/21/86 2 Eastern Washington
Summers, DaJuan (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4639) F 6-8 236 R Georgetown

[pawe]

Camby if not for his insane contract would be the hit! Dude rebounds even in his sleep.

[vednam]

This is sad. Rasheed seemed like he would have been the perfect complement to Tim.


Watch the Spurs end up re-signing Oberto and calling it an offseason.

[Duncan2177]

Antonio McDyess has just been removed from the Detroit Pistons roster over on Yahoo: NBA. Glern Davis is still showing up on Boston's roster. McDyess's name was there an hour ago. And Fab is still listed. I thought Detroit released him Friday???

Hmmm, R.C. do you have something you would like to tell us Spurs fans?

28 Afflalo, Arron (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4305) SG 6-5 215 10/15/85 2 UCLA
38 Brown, Kwame (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3511) FC 6-11 270 3/10/82 8 None
12 Bynum, Will (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3999) G 6-0 185 1/4/83 4 Georgia Tech
Daye, Austin (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4620) F 6-11 200 6/5/88 R Gonzaga
32 Hamilton, Richard (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3330) GF 6-7 193 2/14/78 10 Connecticut
Jerebko, Jonas (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4644) F 6-9 220 3/2/87 R
54 Maxiell, Jason (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3952) FC 6-7 260 2/18/83 4 Cincinnati
7 Oberto, Fabricio (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3988) C 6-10 250 3/21/75 4 None
22 Prince, Tayshaun (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3621) F 6-9 215 2/28/80 7 Kentucky
42 Sharpe, Walter (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4495) F 6-9 245 7/16/86 1 UAB
3 Stuckey, Rodney (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4293) G 6-5 205 4/21/86 2 Eastern Washington
Summers, DaJuan (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4639) F 6-8 236 R Georgetown

Isn't Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva suppose to be on the roster to?

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Camby if not for his insane contract would be the hit! Dude rebounds even in his sleep.

He doesn't have an insane contract. It's 7.65mil expiring. Bonner and Finley and a first might get it done.

[angelbelow]

too bad. i definitely thought rasheeds game fit well with us. but it also looks like we didnt make a strong push for him. either way, i cant wait to see what happens next.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Isn't Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva suppose to be on the roster to?

They can't sign until July 8.

[Russ]

Sheed seems like a better fit for Boston. He'll be in with a fleet of bigs that can attack in waves.

Sheed would have been asked to do too much with the Spurs. He's not a center, he's not young and he's not athletic. His game has moved out further from the basket every year.

In SA, Sheed would just have sucked up salary for two (or even three) years and ruined the Spurs flexibilty to really address their big man problems longer term. He would have eventually been reviled by Spurs fans even worse than Finley. (He might have even prevented the Spurs from signing Splitter next year.)

It's probably better for both teams that Sheed ended up in Boston.

[SouthTexasRancher]

Isn't Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva suppose to be on the roster to?


I think they have to wait till they actually sign the contract. I may be wrong but, I haven't seen their names on the Detroit roster yet.

Ben Gordon is not showing on the Bulls roster anymore. But, Charlie Villanueva is still showing on the Bucks roster. It may be simply a screw-up on Yahoo's part which wouldn't surprise me.

[raspsa]

He doesn't have an insane contract. It's 7.65mil expiring. Bonner and Finley and a first might get it done.

Yeah, that's not bad at all. Who really knows what Pop and the FO are thinking. There just seemed tro be so much momentum from SPurs fans to sign Rasheed and just maybe he never was the guy the Spurs are after. Signing RJ was the first big step and the Pop said they had more choices at the 4 .. a lot of us assumed that this need would be met via FA.. its still possible but maybe a S&T for someone like camby is what they are thinking of.. guess we won't have any clearer idea what's going on until some deal is actually finalized and the truth revealed.. Spurs fans waiting with bated breath.:wow

[Bruno]

:depressed

I don't know if Rasheed was Spurs' primary target but he was for sure mine's.

Sheed isn't the only good big available via trade or FA and I damn hope Spurs will get one good big because this team badly need one.

[spurspokesman]

Fuck Splitter, get your ass over here.

Splitter is in the shitter. Let em stay there. He is as much help as a corpse.

[Danny.Zhu]

If we can not get Dyess, RJ trade means nothing.

[Mr. Body]

if we can not get dyess, rj trade means nothing.

aaaaarrrgghghhhhh!!!

[ivanfromwestwood]

aaaaarrrgghghhhhh!!!lol what you think mr body should we just tank the entire season because we didnt get sheed? :lol

[Avitus1]

Fucking shit! Dammit. Hope we get McDyess... Fucking Sheed.

[rascal]

TBH, I'm not that disappointed. I think the FO knows what they're doing, and even if they don't, I'm still gonna watch the games. For real tho, if we were to play Boston in the Finals this year, watch Blair annoy Sheed until his head explodes lol


Just like they knew what they were doing after winning in 2007, just sitting on that roster.

[spursjustice]

Oh well, Sheed would have been a great addition. We need a big, but I am still impressed by the moves our FO has done thus far. Bring on McDyess.

[benefactor]

Sheed seems like a better fit for Boston. He'll be in with a fleet of bigs that can attack in waves.

Sheed would have been asked to do too much with the Spurs. He's not a center, he's not young and he's not athletic. His game has moved out further from the basket every year.

Throughout the whole process this was at the back of my mind...and I wonder if at the end of the day it was a big reason why he didn't come here.

If Sheed plays here he will be asked to do a lot. He will play starters minutes and be counted on to defend the teams best post player for those minutes night in and night out. In Boston he has Perkins and Garnett and even Pierce to some extent to share the load with on the front line. Both the Spurs and Celtics offer a equally good shot at a title, but it would be much easier for Sheed physically to play in Boston. Honestly, I can't blame him too much at his age.

[JamStone]

It's a given that Wallace isn't the sharpest tool in the shed when it comes to basketball smarts, but when it comes to buisness. Damn!!! I mean to not even try the market on your offers??? What a dumbass...:lol


I'd challenge that basketball smarts comment. Don't mistake temperment for IQ. Sheed has trouble controlling his anger but is a pretty smart basketball player (game 5 defense on Horry aside).

Also the earlier comment about McDyess being a better mentor to young bigs, that is somewhat a fallacy as well. Dice might be more professional, but Sheed is a great mentor when it comes to helping young bigs learn how to play the game. Dice is a good role model but mentoring takes more than that. Dice is the quiet type who younger players could emulate while Sheed is a vocal guy young players would listen to and follow.

I think there is some warped perception going on here particularly after Sheed made decided to go to Boston.

[hater]

he will help them no doubt. but they got too many good bigmen competing for minutes.

[quentin_compson]

Damn, Sheed would have been a great fit. Let's hope we can get Dice.

[loveforthegame]

Damn. Glad I didn't see this news last night or I wouldn't have gotten any sleep. However, the coffee in my stomach now wants to come up.

[The_Game]

i think you guys have overrated sheed

this is the same guy who averaged just 6 points per game in the playoffs against freaking Andy V and big Z

Sheed is washed up.

[GhostofAlfrederickHughes]

...is having to listen to Bill Simmons talk/fantasize/masturbate about it for the next year.

But seriously, this isn't a "failure" by the Spurs F.O....I suspect they knew all along that he's an East Coast guy, fits right in with the mouthy Garnett, and didn't want to play in S.A. They'll move on....can we?

Please?

[TimDunkem]

Let's begin by closing all the stupid Wallace threads. Including this one.

[Spursfan092120]

I got a lesson from Kori Ellis one time...because I did the same thing you're doing...if you want to move on about a topic, and make people stop talking about it, (or to it, in my case)the worst thing you can do is start a topic about it.

[Obstructed_View]

lol "losing" :lmao

[Obstructed_View]

what sought-after player would want to play in san antonio when it's 110 effing degrees outside?

Yeah, those air conditioned gyms are just murder, as are those 110 degree days during basketball season.

[Muser]

Have the Spurs released a statement which showed Sheed was the person they wanted? I must of missed that.

[Gino2882]

Let's begin by closing all the stupid Wallace threads. Including this one.

Haha. That would be a start.

Maybe we will and maybe won't find out the whole story. But either Sheed didn't wanna play here, or the Spurs didn't want him as bad as us fans wanted him.

Get over it, and see what the next chapter brings.

[Cheddz]

...is having to listen to Bill Simmons talk/fantasize/masturbate about it for the next year.

But seriously, this isn't a "failure" by the Spurs F.O....I suspect they knew all along that he's an East Coast guy, fits right in with the mouthy Garnett, and didn't want to play in S.A. They'll move on....can we?

Please?

Or like a sane person, you could choose to not read/listen to Bill Simmons.

[loveforthegame]

I don't think we're overrating him but he'd fit with what the Spurs do more than most the fa's out there. McDyess being the only other player really. Maybe Bass to a certain extent.

You do have to wonder how much of a push they made for him though?? Hopefully McDyess or Bass are the ones they're pushing for because I just don't think Big Baby fits here.

[kobyz]

the deal now report is for 3 years - third year is a player option:
http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/celtics_blog/2009/07/wallace_gets_th.html

[Spurs Brazil]

the deal now report is for 3 years - third year is a player option:
http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/celtics_blog/2009/07/wallace_gets_th.html

Maybe the Spurs offered the same deal to Sheed that they signed McDyess and Celtics needed to add that 3rd year

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Or like a sane person, you could choose to not read/listen to Bill Simmons.

Dude, Simmons is great. He's funny, interesting, occasionally insightful... not always right, but definitely worth the read. Stop frowning and give him another go! :D

[timvp]

Three-year contract with the third year being a player option? Yeah, no way the Spurs should have given Wallace that contract.

[Spursfan092120]

Three-year contract with the third year being a player option? Yeah, no way the Spurs should have given Wallace that contract.
agreed...I'm liking the McDyess signing more and more every day.

[Eruff24]

i think you guys have overrated sheed

this is the same guy who averaged just 6 points per game in the playoffs against freaking Andy V and big Z

Sheed is washed up.

Sheed isnt overrated at all. Dumars didnt enforce the voice of the coach and they lost respect for Curry anf Saunders. Sheed wouldnt dare do that to Pop