Big Baby to San Antonio? Grant Hill to Boston?

[Gant]

This is from Gary Tanguay who first broke the story days ago that Rasheed was heading to Boston:

"I expect Grant Hill to be a Celtic soon. He has met with Doc Rivers in person. Looks like Big Baby is gone to San Antonio"

http://twitter.com/Gary_Tanguay

If true you guys are getting a very likable player in Big Baby.

[timvp]

:smchode: :smchode: :smchode: :smchode: :smchode: :smchode: :smchode:

This is the same guy who broke the Rasheed news.

[Shastafarian]

Please not the full MLE...please please please please

[Leetonidas]

Fuck. I like Davis, but Dyess is much much better. :pctoss

[TampaDude]

Big Baby is awesome...don't think he's coming to the Spurs, though...

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Shit.
Finley and Bonner, please be gone. Your efforts to being traded will be greatly appreciated.

[timtonymanu]

we can do so much better than Big Baby.

[timvp]

I'd rather have Brandon Bass.

Big Baby rebounds and block shots worse than Bonner.

[Sii]

i'd take Davis

depends on price though

[Shastafarian]

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs024.snc1/2387_554490529402_3103453_33980322_7370_n.jpg

[poeticism707]

:rollin:rollin:rollin

[JamesR]

If true, this night just went from bad to worse.

[DPG21920]

This would be a major, major blunder. Please do not let this be true. Please. If this is true, like I said, I HATE the RJ trade overall. Spurs will be capped out and out of the 2010 race.

No way you pay the luxury tax for Big Baby. Tim would ask to be traded.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs024.snc1/2387_554490529402_3103453_33980322_7370_n.jpg

:depressed

[HarlemHeat37]

He didn't really break the news though..it was basically a guess based on Rasheed's friendship with KG..he wasn't the only one saying it..he backtracked his comments 2 days later..

If Big Baby is our MLE signing, the RJ trade would currently be a failure..

[DPG21920]

Gooden>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Fat Face.

[Kori Ellis]

He didn't really break the news though..it was basically a guess based on Rasheed's friendship with KG..he wasn't the only one saying it..he backtracked his comments 2 days later..



He broke the news on the Rasheed signing today.

[timvp]

Big Baby Per 36 Minutes
6.6 rebounds
0.4 blocks

Big Bonner Per 36 Minutes
7.2 rebounds
0.5 blocks

[Cant_Be_Faded]

:pctoss

bloa-ded

:smchode:

[Spursmania]

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs024.snc1/2387_554490529402_3103453_33980322_7370_n.jpg

That pic is so gay:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[mardigan]

:pctoss

bloa-ded

:smchode:

[Spursmania]

Big Baby Per 36 Minutes
6.6 rebounds
0.4 blocks

Big Bonner Per 36 Minutes
7.2 rebounds
0.5 blocks

:bang:bang

[Sii]

This would be a major, major blunder. Please do not let this be true. Please. If this is true, like I said, I HATE the RJ trade overall. Spurs will be capped out and out of the 2010 race.

No way you pay the luxury tax for Big Baby. Tim would ask to be traded.

how the hell can anyone HATE the Jefferson trade? Good Lord.

[JamesR]

This would be a major, major blunder. Please do not let this be true. Please. If this is true, like I said, I HATE the RJ trade overall. Spurs will be capped out and out of the 2010 race.

No way you pay the luxury tax for Big Baby. Tim would ask to be traded.

If the Spurs can't even lure a washed up Rasheed Wallace, how the fuck are we going to sign LeBron/Wade/Bosh to SA?

Get real.

[benefactor]

God...please...no...................please.

[DPG21920]

Big Baby Per 36 Minutes
6.6 rebounds
0.4 blocks

Big Bonner Per 36 Minutes
7.2 rebounds
0.5 blocks

Spurs obviously do not look at these if this is true. I wonder if Tim would voice his displeasure to the media if this happened. I would hope so. Baby does not even shoot the ball well.

He made a couple of big shots and it has over shadowed his very average shooting.

What does he do well?

[HarlemHeat37]

He broke the news on the Rasheed signing today.

It was a follow-up story though, but you're right..

Tanguay was the main guy in Boston reporting all the stuff on Wallace, so it isn't really surprising that he was the one reporting it once the verbal agreement was official..

His source for first reporting the Wallace-Boston commitment was KG..so I guess it would take somebody close to Baby to be his source right now, since I doubt he knows anybody in SA..

[Creation88]

if we lose Gooden for this fatass, it's retarded.

[Kori Ellis]

It was a follow-up story though, but you're right..

Tanguay was the main guy in Boston reporting all the stuff on Wallace, so it isn't really surprising that he was the one reporting it once the verbal agreement was official..

His source for first reporting the Wallace-Boston commitment was KG..so I guess it would take somebody close to Baby to be his source right now, since I doubt he knows anybody in SA..

Yeah I get all that ... the point of the original poster was that he broke the news of the actual signing today.

[DPG21920]

If the Spurs can't even lure a washed up Rasheed Wallace, how the fuck are we going to sign LeBron/Wade/Bosh to SA?

Get real.

Where did I mention those player? Please link?

[Danny.Zhu]

Fuck. I like Davis, but Dyess is much much better. :pctoss

Agreed. And Rasheed is much much better than Dyess.

[Spursmania]

Why would Pop want Big Fatty?

[024]

this is weird. davis and mcdyess basically play the same offensive role with mcdyess being a better defender and rebounder. are the spurs really going for potential over veterans? after all these years of veteran stacking?

[SenorSpur]

I'd rather have Brandon Bass.

Big Baby rebounds and block shots worse than Bonner.

+1

Not sure what Big Baby's attributes are.

Tim needs an "ass-kicker" in the starting lineup next to him. Somehow Big Baby doesn't translate into that type of player.

[poeticism707]

If true, this night just went from bad to worse.

:lol

Seriously, everyone here is OVERREACTING BY A MILE! Big Baby is a few inches undersized, but with his big body and low center of gravity, not to mention his soft touch, he'd be GREAT for the Spurs, not to mention he's what, 24?!?!?!?!?

For everyone that remembers how well he did in last year's playoffs (averaging 17.6ppg or so and 7.3rpg), if he averaged those kind of numbers for a season, he'd be WAY OUT OF THE SPURS PRICE RANGE.

Simply put, this guy could be a steal for a decade plus!!!

[timvp]

Davis looked pretty good in the playoffs but he's not a fit. He doesn't rebound. He doesn't block shots. He gets pushed around down low. And offensively, he's more of a volume shooter.

He'd make sense on a team that needs a lot of scoring from a bigman. The Spurs don't really need that. They need rebounding and defense.

Man, WTF. Don't tell me the Spurs want him because of that one time he had that fluke defensive game against TD.

[kbrury]

I guess the spurs forgot that the Lakers have players taller then 6"7

[Shastafarian]

Where did I mention those player? Please link?

Then what is the 2010 plan?

[urunobili]

+1

Not sure what Big Baby's attributes are.

Tim needs an "ass-kicker" in the starting lineup next to him. Somehow Big Baby doesn't translate into that type of player.

Haislip may well end up being "that" guy.... :stirpot:

[DPG21920]

how the hell can anyone HATE the Jefferson trade? Good Lord.

I am a patient man, so I will explain this again.

The RJ trade in isolation was a great trade. But what is the goal? To put together a team that can win another title (or have a legit shot) while Tim is a Spur.

If the Spurs look to fill the void with Big Baby, the net effects (handcuffing yourself out of 2010 with much more talent available) could be worse. A team with RJ + Baby is not going to win a title. The PF/C would be awful.

So, you have to look at all moves combined along with the opportunity costs associated with the moves. Hence, I do not like the RJ trade if it lead to Big Baby as the main big (using the MLE on him).

[HarlemHeat37]

We already have enough ?s in the frontcourt, which is the annoying thing..this spot should be used for a proven guy..

[MarHill]

He didn't really break the news though..it was basically a guess based on Rasheed's friendship with KG..he wasn't the only one saying it..he backtracked his comments 2 days later..

If Big Baby is our MLE signing, the RJ trade would currently be a failure..

No it won't...RJ fills a major weakness at the SF. Something the Spurs need a much as getting another big.

Let's just wait and see what happens!!!

[picnroll]

Taco Cabana employees all over San Antonio rejoice. Overtime.

With Blair and Big Baby Spurs will have a helluva flag footbal team.

[Shastafarian]

I am a patient man, so I will explain this again.

The RJ trade in isolation was a great trade. But what is the goal? To put together a team that can win another title (or have a legit shot) while Tim is a Spur.

If the Spurs look to fill the void with Big Baby, the net effects (handcuffing yourself out of 2010 with much more talent available) could be worse. A team with RJ + Baby is not going to win a title. The PF/C would be awful.

So, you have to look at all moves combined along with the opportunity costs associated with the moves. Hence, I do not like the RJ trade if it lead to Big Baby as the main big (using the MLE on him).
He wouldn't be the main big. Spurs will bank on their young guys for that.

[ploto]

Maybe he is assuming that since the Celtics got Rasheed, the Spurs would get Davis. He had true info on Grant Hill meeting with Boston but no real info it appears on the Spurs.

[timvp]

For everyone that remembers how well he did in last year's playoffs (averaging 17.6ppg or so and 7.3rpg), if he averaged those kind of numbers for a season, he'd be WAY OUT OF THE SPURS PRICE RANGE.

For the record, Big Baby averaged 15.8 points and 5.6 rebounds in 36.4 minutes per game in the playoffs.

So his rebounding took another big drop in the playoffs. Bonner on the glass looks like David Robinson compared to this guy :depressed

[Sigz]

fuck you ducks. You motherfucking dickhead.

[024]

spurs moving duncan from a scorer to a more rebounding/defense role? i like davis but not over sheed and mcdyess.

[mardigan]

I will fucking Hulk Smash if this is true.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

fuck you ducks. You motherfucking dickhead.

:lol:depressed

[DPG21920]

Then what is the 2010 plan?

LMAO at you thinking it was ever about Wade or Lebron...

Money to sign Tiago Splitter for one.
Plenty of talented players to choose from along with using the MLE.
Gives the Spurs more time to evaluate Manu.
See what shakes loose once the big chips fall.

The 2010 plan was about building a contender for Duncan's last years.

[Kori Ellis]

Don't worry about Big Baby.. the Mahinmi+Blair tandem is going to be awesome enough to hold down the front court :drunk

[Sii]

I am a patient man, so I will explain this again.

The RJ trade in isolation was a great trade. But what is the goal? To put together a team that can win another title (or have a legit shot) while Tim is a Spur.

If the Spurs look to fill the void with Big Baby, the net effects (handcuffing yourself out of 2010 with much more talent available) could be worse. A team with RJ + Baby is not going to win a title. The PF/C would be awful.

So, you have to look at all moves combined along with the opportunity costs associated with the moves. Hence, I do not like the RJ trade if it lead to Big Baby as the main big (using the MLE on him).

Richard Jefferson is likely a better player than SA could have gotten in 2010 by blowing off this season and waiting...and SA basically got him without having to give up anything. If they want Bowen or Oberto back they can choose that. so it was a good deal all on its own

We dont know what is going to happen the rest of the offseason anyway. this report is certainly not a done deal

[poeticism707]

For the record, he averaged 15.8 points and 5.6 rebounds in 36.4 minutes per game in the playoffs.

So his rebounding took another big drop in the playoffs. Bonner on the glass looks like David Robinson compared to this guy :depressed

Thanks for the minor correction! But for the MLE, at his young age coupled with what he's already done ON A WINNING TEAM, NOT A LOTTERY TEAM, he could be steal and THEN SOME for the MLE.

Very shrewd FO, passing on Sheed, and taking Davis, if this is true!

[Gant]

I think San Antonio is going to have to pay enough to get Baby. If they only offer him like 3 million, Boston will match. So this is not a sure thing yet.

[DPG21920]

He wouldn't be the main big. Spurs will bank on their young guys for that.


He is their young guy. If he comes for the LLE, then great. But that is not very likely now is it. He would command most of the MLE and he would be the premier big by Tim.

No rookie without experience that is paid less than him would take that spot.

[Shastafarian]

LMAO at you thinking it was ever about Wade or Lebron...

Money to sign Tiago Splitter for one.
Plenty of talented players to choose from along with using the MLE.
Gives the Spurs more time to evaluate Manu.
See what shakes loose once the big chips fall.

The 2010 plan was about building a contender for Duncan's last years.

Would you rather they didn't sign anyone else this year? That along with renouncing the RJ deal and you'd be happy?

[Brazil]

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs024.snc1/2387_554490529402_3103453_33980322_7370_n.jpg

:hang

[K-State Spur]

baby was pretty darn good in the playoffs (against two of the weakest front lines in the league) - but he has been nothing short of bad his first two years in the league otherwise.

he would be one of my absolute last choices of players on the market.

[Sigz]

We're fucked.

It's all that ugly ass Scola's fault.

[MarHill]

LMAO at you thinking it was ever about Wade or Lebron...

Money to sign Tiago Splitter for one.
Plenty of talented players to choose from along with using the MLE.
Gives the Spurs more time to evaluate Manu.
See what shakes loose once the big chips fall.

The 2010 plan was about building a contender for Duncan's last years.

Common sense again....for someone on this forum!!

Thanks, DPG21920!!!

:toast

[kbrury]

Bass is a better rebounder wow.

[Shastafarian]

He is their young guy. If he comes for the LLE, then great. But that is not very likely now is it. He would command most of the MLE and he would be the premier big by Tim.

No rookie without experience that is paid less than him would take that spot.

:lol According to who? He was a bench player in Boston and he'd likely have to play for a starting spot with a new team.

[galvatron3000]

Why in the world would the Spurs go after Big Baby, I'd much rather have a vet like Dyess and shore up the bench with youth...shesh this crying dude will surely have the spurs ....forget it!!!


We need .....ahh

[Shastafarian]

And you really think they'd sign Splitter for more than the MLE?

[baseline bum]

That pic is so gay:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Still tougher than any pic Karl Malone ever took.

[timvp]

Big Baby Per 36 Minutes
6.6 rebounds
0.4 blocks

Big Bonner Per 36 Minutes
7.2 rebounds
0.5 blocks

To compare . . .

Brandon Bass Per 36 Minutes
8.4 rebounds
1.3 blocks

[DPG21920]

Richard Jefferson is likely a better player than SA could have gotten in 2010 by blowing off this season and waiting...and SA basically got him without having to give up anything. If they want Bowen or Oberto back they can choose that. so it was a good deal all on its own

We dont know what is going to happen the rest of the offseason anyway. this report is certainly not a done deal

Did I say it was? I clearly said IF the Big Baby report is true, I do not like it. I am not judging until it happens.

I understand why they made the trade. I am the one who wrote about a trade like this a long time ago. I wanted this type of trade, but only if it leads to other moves that give the Spurs a legit shot. That was the only reason why the plan should have been abandoned. Baby is not good enough.

It would make it very difficult to go another direction when it fails (if baby signs for the MLE).

I also said that I like the RJ trade in isolation. But that is not the point I am trying to make.

[poeticism707]

Still tougher than any pic Karl Malone ever took.
:lol

[Mugen]

Big Baby cried in a game last year.

enough said.

[kbrury]

heres to hoping for Bass over Davis :downspin:

[Spurs9]

fuck plzno. Glenn Davis looks like a overweight slug running on the court. He is the last person I want, I'd take Rasho over him

[benefactor]

To compare . . .

Brandon Bass Per 36 Minutes
8.4 rebounds
1.3 blocks
:frying:

[Death In June]

Well, this would be the worst case scenario for the organization. There's something about this FO that just fails at FA acquisition.

[picnroll]

What happened to those giddy days of the Jefferson trade and Blair drafting. pooofff

[galvatron3000]

DrewGooden anyone

[Spursmania]

http://www.unlikelywords.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/glenndavis-283x300.jpg (http://www.unlikelywords.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/glenndavis.jpg)


Why big baby?

[kbrury]

DrewGooden anyone

Gladly if we can't get McDyess. But it looks like the Spurs are interested in something shorter.

[Tully365]

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs024.snc1/2387_554490529402_3103453_33980322_7370_n.jpg

40 years ago very stupid people would've said they didn't want him on their favorite team because he was a n---er.... now it's because he might be a fag..... progress?

[DPG21920]

:lol According to who? He was a bench player in Boston and he'd likely have to play for a starting spot with a new team.

Yes, but the Celtics had a legit starter in Perkings. Spurs have no one. Not to mention, I do not know any teams that have their highest (or 2 behind Tim) paid big man as the bench player, especially when there is no one else but rookies.

[galvatron3000]

http://www.unlikelywords.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/glenndavis-283x300.jpg (http://www.unlikelywords.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/glenndavis.jpg)


Why big baby?

where r u guys finding all these gay pic?s

[bigfan]

Oh crap we do not want this fat ass!

[baseline bum]

Goddamnit. If they can't get Dice, Zaza should be next. Big Baby's not bad for a bench guy, but the Spurs need a fucking starter who can set some screens, play D, and rebound. RC must have gotten confused watching tape and think he's signing Perkins.

[MarHill]

What happened to those giddy days of the Jefferson trade and Blair drafting. pooofff

Spurs fans are fickle!!! Don't you know that!!:lol

Fans want big names for their team and the Spurs FO hasn't operate like that in this Spurs Golden Age Period!!!

And they don't have any patience!!!

[Shastafarian]

40 years ago very stupid people would've said they didn't want him on their favorite team because he was a n---er.... now it's because he might be a fag..... progress?

It's a joke. Get a sense of humor. Maybe try and remove that stick as well. Btw did you ever find those posts of mine where I was pining for Sheed?

[Sigz]

where r u guys finding all these gay pic?s

It's glen davis.

That fucking sac of lard shit... He's full of gay in every picture.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Everyone's assuming this is a done deal because of one freaking twitter??? What is the noun form of twitter? Yes, TWIT. That's what all the cliff jumping makes you. At least wait for a credible, confirmed source before killing yourseves.

I can't believe the FO would be this stupid, so I'm going with reason. Not happening.

[Marcus Bryant]

Davis makes sense coming off the bench. The fact that the Spurs seem to be just as active in targeting reserve bigs in free agency as they have been in going after Wallace and McDyess makes be believe that they have an option, be it a trade or by signing Splitter to address the starting 5 spot.

[galvatron3000]

It's glen davis.

That fucking sac of lard shit... He's full of gay in every picture.

I know who it is but man these are the most flowery photos ever...lol

[DPG21920]

Would you rather they didn't sign anyone else this year? That along with renouncing the RJ deal and you'd be happy?


And you really think they'd sign Splitter for more than the MLE?

Where did I say I did not want them to sign anyone else? I just do not want the MLE for Baby, which is what it will take more than likely. RJ was a great trade, but if that was it, it would not be enough so what is the point of hand cuffing yourself?

They could go up to the MLE for Tiago yes, and that would be much much better than Baby.

[Shastafarian]

Yes, but the Celtics had a legit starter in Perkings. Spurs have no one. Not to mention, I do not know any teams that have their highest (or 2 behind Tim) paid big man as the bench player, especially when there is no one else but rookies.

Assuming it's true we have no idea what he'd sign for. Mahinmi is making over $1.5 million and was a first round pick. Big Baby would 100% have to play for a starting spot. Especially considering his size.

[Sii]

its pretty hilarious some twitter post is being taken as gospel.

[MarHill]

Everyone's assuming this is a done deal because of one freaking twitter??? What is the noun form of twitter? Yes, TWIT. That's what all the cliff jumping makes you. At least wait for a credible, confirmed source before killing yourseves.

I can't believe the FO would be this stupid, so I'm going with reason. Not happening.

Again...more common sense from a Spurs fan!!!

There is hope! :lol

[Creation88]

resign Gooden! he's the fucking answer.

[Spursmania]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/stewart_mandel/03/12/bracket.react/t1_dancebaby.jpg

[Kori Ellis]

Everyone's assuming this is a done deal because of one freaking twitter??? What is the noun form of twitter? Yes, TWIT. That's what all the cliff jumping makes you. At least wait for a credible, confirmed source before killing yourseves.

I can't believe the FO would be this stupid, so I'm going with reason. Not happening.

One "tweet" :lol

and the guy is pretty credible, considering he broke the news of Rasheed signing. But obviously, nothing is done at this point.

[objective]

Signing Big Baby would be tremendous garbage, and if the Spurs blew their MLE (or a goodly portion of it), they're even more irrational than I thought they were.

IF McDyess already told them no, and ZaZa brushed them off, they're better off saving their money and rolling the dice with Mr. Glass and Dejuan Blair than committing any money to Big Baby.

Hell, sign Leon Powe instead.

I'd rather the Spurs stick with Matt Bonner as the starting big, and I can't stand Matt Bonner.

[picnroll]

Spurs fans are fickle!!! Don't you know that!!:lol

Fans want big names for their team and the Spurs FO hasn't operate like that in this Spurs Golden Age Period!!!

And they don't have any patience!!!

You mistake my intent. I think this signing makes the signing of Rasho in 2003 look like the steal of the century. This guy is going to eat himself out of the league before his contracts up.

[Mugen]

Davis makes sense coming off the bench. The fact that the Spurs seem to be just as active in targeting reserve bigs in free agency as they have been in going after Wallace and McDyess makes be believe that they have an option, be it a trade or by signing Splitter to address the starting 5 spot.

that or they think they can turn somebodys crap into our gold.

they have done it before but damn we need a solid big next to timmy and big baby is not that guy with any stretch of the imagination.

[Shastafarian]

Where did I say I did not want them to sign anyone else? I just do not want the MLE for Baby, which is what it will take more than likely.In case you didn't notice, the FA crop this year isn't so good. You sound as if you wanted to save as much money as possible for 2010.



They could go up to the MLE for Tiago yes, and that would be much much better than Baby.
Then how does his signing effect Splitter in 2010?

[timvp]

Let's hope Gary Tanqueray has been drinking. Big Baby is a good prospect but he's literally about the last big that makes sense for the Spurs.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Goddamnit. If they can't get Dice, Zaza should be next. Big Baby's not bad for a bench guy, but the Spurs need a fucking starter who can set some screens, play D, and rebound. RC must have gotten confused watching tape and think he's signing Perkins.

Dice, Pachulia, Rasho would be my order.

There's no real confirmation that this is happening. It is one man's unexplained opinion in a fucking Tweet (thanks Kori :lol ), by some Twit, for fucksake. Man, I hate fucking Twitter. Way to dumb down the world. Communication used to be something you'd did when you had something to say, now it's just verbal (or textual) diahorrhea signifying nothing.

[MarHill]

And what is up with using the n-word on this thread!!! Those posts should be taken down immediately!

[mytespurs]

If the Spurs can't even lure a washed up Rasheed Wallace, how the fuck are we going to sign LeBron/Wade/Bosh to SA?

Get real.

:rolleyes.....like the Spurs would've had a shot at any of those 3 anyway.

[Spursmania]

http://blog.ingamenow.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/big-baby.jpg

Nobody wants me to be a Spur?

[galvatron3000]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/stewart_mandel/03/12/bracket.react/t1_dancebaby.jpg

:lmao:rollin

[DPG21920]

Davis makes sense coming off the bench. The fact that the Spurs seem to be just as active in targeting reserve bigs in free agency as they have been in going after Wallace and McDyess makes be believe that they have an option, be it a trade or by signing Splitter to address the starting 5 spot.

I am totally fine with that, but from all reports, Baby seems like he will command the MLE or close to all of it.

[Sigz]

Lol

[Shastafarian]

For the record, I wouldn't like this at all either. But to blast the RJ trade because of it is pretty silly.

[Kori Ellis]

And what is up with using the n-word on this thread!!! Those posts should be taken down immediately!

Isn't it one post and the person was actually criticizing people for using gay/fag, right?

(Did I miss something else?)

[mytespurs]

I'd take Oberto back before Big Baby....geez!!!

[DPG21920]

Assuming it's true we have no idea what he'd sign for. Mahinmi is making over $1.5 million and was a first round pick. Big Baby would 100% have to play for a starting spot. Especially considering his size.

Since when is 5M < 1M? Since when is a guy who played and has a ring < a guy who has seen like 15 minutes of NBA court time?

[poeticism707]

and what is up with using the n-word on this thread!!! Those posts should be taken down immediately!

+1000.

[mardigan]

Isn't it one post and the person was actually criticizing people for using gay/fag, right?

(Did I miss something else?)

Just the first post on the 4th page, dont know if thats what he was talking about.

[Marcus Bryant]

If every post which contained a fucking offensive word was eliminated in this forum...

[Sigz]

fucking ducks

[MarHill]

Isn't it one post and the person was actually criticizing people for using gay/fag, right?

(Did I miss something else?)

It was two!!

That one you mentioned and another one.

I will go back and find it!!

[Shastafarian]

Since when is 5M < 1M? Since when did I say this?

Since when is a guy who played and has a ring < a guy who has seen like 15 minutes of NBA court time?
a BENCH guy

[Gant]

OK, this is not a done deal (yet). Here's the latest from Tanguay:

http://www.csnne.com/author/gary-tanguay/

"UPDATE: It is also my belief that Grant Hill will sign with Boston after meeting face-to-face with Doc Rivers by the end of the week. Glen Davis could be gone to San Antonio, as they are prepared to offer their mid-level slot, which it is my understanding that Boston will not match. Davis is a restricted free-agent and any offer he receives can be matched by the Celtics within 7 days."

So the Spurs will not get Davis cheap. The Celtics want him but only at a decent price and will match if the offer is low. But if San Antonio offers close to the MLE, Baby is gone. (That's overpaying though. He's a nice player to have but he's not worth that much.)

The Grant Hill to Boston report seems solid though.

[mattyc]

He is the type of player I like, but not for the Spurs.

Dice makes sense.

[Kori Ellis]

It was two!!

That one you mentioned and another one.

I will go back and find it!!

I edited the one I saw. I didn't see anything else.

[objective]

Goddamnit. If they can't get Dice, Zaza should be next. Big Baby's not bad for a bench guy, but the Spurs need a fucking starter who can set some screens, play D, and rebound. RC must have gotten confused watching tape and think he's signing Perkins.

hmmmmmmmmm

set screens, play d, rebound . . . add blocked shots and a crushing 72% average shooting 2-pointers in the Eurocup with 12 points a game . . .

and you have . . .

http://www.cosmopolitan.lt/images/graphics/1108539641.jpg

[Spursmania]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_s2eBhyvptWo/SFujX8tMYtI/AAAAAAAAAG0/t5sck2AQZv4/s320/big%2Bbaby.bmp

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Let's hope Gary Tanqueray has been drinking. Big Baby is a good prospect but he's literally about the last big that makes sense for the Spurs.

Yup, Gary's all over the G&T. :lol

Do people really think the Spurs' FO would make all these great moves and then do something that fitted the team so poorly? I don't. Time to step away from the cliff, go and do something else for a couple of days, and wait for the 8th.

[MarHill]

If every post which contained a fucking offensive word was eliminated in this forum...

I'm sorry Marcus....but there is no place for that. Period!!

There was no context for it.....and you don't have to go there.

[DPG21920]

In case you didn't notice, the FA crop this year isn't so good. You sound as if you wanted to save as much money as possible for 2010.



Then how does his signing effect Splitter in 2010?

Yes, I did if it meant losing KT+Oberto and replacing them with Glen Davis.

The Spurs will be well into the luxury tax. It certainly effects signing Splitter in 2010.

[Shastafarian]

OK, this is not a done deal (yet). Here's the latest from Tanguay:

http://www.csnne.com/author/gary-tanguay/

"UPDATE: It is also my belief that Grant Hill will sign with Boston after meeting face-to-face with Doc Rivers by the end of the week. Glen Davis could be gone to San Antonio, as they are prepared to offer their mid-level slot, which it is my understanding that Boston will not match. Davis is a restricted free-agent and any offer he receives can be matched by the Celtics within 7 days."

So the Spurs will not get Davis cheap. The Celtics want him but only at a decent price and will match if the offer is low. But if San Antonio offers close to the MLE, Baby is gone. (That's overpaying though. He's a nice player to have but he's not worth that much.)

The Grant Hill to Boston report seems solid though.

Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahk

[Mugen]

RJ and Big Baby starting in the front court.

photoshop away kids....

[Sigz]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_s2eBhyvptWo/SFujX8tMYtI/AAAAAAAAAG0/t5sck2AQZv4/s320/big%2Bbaby.bmp

He's got bitch titties.

Fucking, we already have Matt Bonner for that.

[Kori Ellis]

OK, this is not a done deal (yet). Here's the latest from Tanguay:

http://www.csnne.com/author/gary-tanguay/

"UPDATE: It is also my belief that Grant Hill will sign with Boston after meeting face-to-face with Doc Rivers by the end of the week. Glen Davis could be gone to San Antonio, as they are prepared to offer their mid-level slot, which it is my understanding that Boston will not match. Davis is a restricted free-agent and any offer he receives can be matched by the Celtics within 7 days."

So the Spurs will not get Davis cheap. The Celtics want him but only at a decent price and will match if the offer is low. But if San Antonio offers close to the MLE, Baby is gone. (That's overpaying though. He's a nice player to have but he's not worth that much.)

The Grant Hill to Boston report seems solid though.

:lol If the Spurs give him the MLE, the forum is going to melt down. :lol

[galvatron3000]

Wait on Powe instead..lol

[Shastafarian]

Yes, I did if it meant losing KT+Oberto and replacing them with Glen Davis.

The Spurs will be well into the luxury tax. It certainly effects signing Splitter in 2010.

Depends. They're at $47 million as of now for 2010. No telling what the cap will be. Could be $56-$60 million.

[Tully365]

Isn't it one post and the person was actually criticizing people for using gay/fag, right?

(Did I miss something else?)

Thank you.

And for anyone who doesn't see that I'm saying both are obviously wrong... reread the post.

[timvp]

OK, this is not a done deal (yet). Here's the latest from Tanguay:

http://www.csnne.com/author/gary-tanguay/

"UPDATE: It is also my belief that Grant Hill will sign with Boston after meeting face-to-face with Doc Rivers by the end of the week. Glen Davis could be gone to San Antonio, as they are prepared to offer their mid-level slot, which it is my understanding that Boston will not match. Davis is a restricted free-agent and any offer he receives can be matched by the Celtics within 7 days."
At least Big Baby is a cool nickname . . . . . . . . .. .

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

OK, this is not a done deal (yet). Here's the latest from Tanguay:

http://www.csnne.com/author/gary-tanguay/

"UPDATE: It is also my belief that Grant Hill will sign with Boston after meeting face-to-face with Doc Rivers by the end of the week. Glen Davis could be gone to San Antonio, as they are prepared to offer their mid-level slot, which it is my understanding that Boston will not match. Davis is a restricted free-agent and any offer he receives can be matched by the Celtics within 7 days."

So the Spurs will not get Davis cheap. The Celtics want him but only at a decent price and will match if the offer is low. But if San Antonio offers close to the MLE, Baby is gone. (That's overpaying though. He's a nice player to have but he's not worth that much.)

The Grant Hill to Boston report seems solid though.

Until I hear it from another source (not citing Tanquaray), I won't believe it. I mean, he knows what's going on in the Celtics' organisation, but does that mean he also has magical access to the Spurs? No freaking way. It's still all conjecture.

[completely deck]

its pretty hilarious some twitter post is being taken as gospel.

[clubalien]

IF the spurs are signing him, it must be as a backup. So they are probaly trading ian and bonner for someone to start at center and thus needs back ups without those two bigs

[galvatron3000]

At least Big Baby is a cool nickname . . . . . . . . .. .

Not with all these photos flying around this thread of him

[Death In June]

Today was a day filled with awful news.

[MarHill]

I edited the one I saw. I didn't see anything else.


Kori...I thought I saw two of them. I don't see it!

My apologizes.

[Shastafarian]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3213/2321828175_c67ecacb7b.jpg

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[poeticism707]

:lol If the Spurs give him the MLE, the forum is going to melt down. :lol
:rollin:rollin:rollin

Just the possibility and it's already happened!

[DPG21920]

Since when did I say this?

a BENCH guy

Did you watch the playoffs? He played over 36 minutes a game. I do not care if Garnett was hurt.

Bonner had no one to compete with and he played 20. You brought up Ian making 1m and being a first round pick, what is your point?

[picnroll]

Mahinmi must be looking like the second coming of Bill Russell in practice. That's the only possible explanation for this. :drunk

[galvatron3000]

Until I hear it from another source (not citing Tanquaray), I won't believe it. I mean, he knows what's going on in the Celtics' organisation, but does that mean he also has magical access to the Spurs? No freaking way. It's still all conjecture.

A league source said the Celtics’ pursuit of Wallace actually may affect the team’s ability to sign its own restricted free agent - not because of the Celtics’ ability to pay, but because of the increased chance one of the jilted Wallace suitors might then make an increased offer to Davis.

Orlando and San Antonio - both expected to meet with Wallace during the next week - are said to be interested in offering Davis most, if not all, of their midlevel exceptions as a contingency plan. The Grizzlies are also thinking about getting into the Big Baby sweepstakes.

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/basketball/celtics/view.bg?articleid=1183044&srvc=rss

[mardigan]

At least Big Baby is a cool nickname . . . . . . . . .. .

Compared to what? The Dunkin Dutchman?

[Marcus Bryant]

I'm sorry Marcus....but there is no place for that. Period!!

There was no context for it.....and you don't have to go there.

Ah yes, after all, it's verboten. Let's not say what really mean and say what we don't mean.

[Kori Ellis]

Los Ninos Grandes

http://blog.ingamenow.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/big-baby.jpghttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/_7j3PebZWLis/ScFM4cFeekI/AAAAAAAAACs/RYvpb9ACkc0/s400/dejuan-blair.jpg

[completely deck]

:wakeup

[Shastafarian]

Did you watch the playoffs? He played over 36 minutes a game. I do not care if Garnett was hurt. You don't care even though that contributed to him playing so much? And how about Leon Powe ALSO being injured?


Bonner had no one to compete with and he played 20. You brought up Ian making 1m and being a first round pick, what is your point?
My point is he's not just some young hit or miss second rounder. The Spurs have a fair amount invested in him. I'm confident Davis would have to win the starting spot over him.

[Sigz]

http://gossilicious.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/to-crying1.jpg

[timvp]

He's got bitch titties.

Fucking, we already have Matt Bonner for that.

:lol Free agency can be hilarious.

Hopefully we look back on this thread and laugh while crossing Tanqueray off the list as of reputable sources.

[clubalien]

everyone knows RJ is gay. and looks like people are saying big baby is gay. Was it a requirement for the RJ trade to acquire a gay partner for RJ?

[DPG21920]

For the record, I wouldn't like this at all either. But to blast the RJ trade because of it is pretty silly.


Wrong. I explained why. The goal is to win a title (or give a legit shot to) before Tim is done. If the moves were RJ and Baby that would be a fail more than likely. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

I never "blasted" the RJ trade. I said it was a great trade in isolation. But I would hate the overall moves that were made if this came true.

[Kori Ellis]

everyone knows RJ is gay. and looks like people are saying big baby is gay. Was it a requirement for the RJ trade to acquire a gay partner for RJ?

Stop this trash. Thanks.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs024.snc1/2387_554490529402_3103453_33980322_7370_n.jpg

A Bunk Buddy for RJ.


Sorry I couldn't help myself.:lol

[mosdef17]

I think Spurs should look in the direction of another trade rather then big baby. I would take the following scenario before baby. If Blazers are for real about spending some cash on David Lee, maybe we can offer them another money saving trade that will help free up some minutes for Lee. Offer Bonner and Finley for Joel Przybilla. If they take that then we still have the MLE which most of which (not all, about $3m of it) I would like to see being offered to McDyess. McDyess is a very good mid range shooter that would play well with Duncan. We reall need some big bodies up forward. Although Joel is overpaid at about $7m annualy, I think it would provide a nice defensive backup to Tim Duncan. He did well last year when starting in place for Oden. The team would then look like this:

Parker/Hill
Mason/Ginobili/McClinton
Jefferson
Duncan/Blair
Przybilla/McDyess/Mahinmi

I would really like to see a minimum contract offered to Grant Hill also but I think that is more of a pipe dream then reality. I'd be happy offering $3.6m of the MLE to McDyess and then offering the other $2m to Hill. Great thing about having Hill would be another guy that can run the point.

[Pucho!!!]

C'mon, the spurs can do better than this guy. He's nothing more than a role player which we now have plenty of in the frontcourt.

[Shastafarian]

Wrong. I explained why. The goal is to win a title (or give a legit shot to) before Tim is done. If the moves were RJ and Baby that would be a fail more than likely. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.


Nostradamus forum

[MarHill]

Ah yes, after all, it's verboten. Let's not say what really mean and say what we don't mean.

Marcus,

I'm anti-politically correct...but you can say what you mean without going to a racial slur!!

Just like someone who curses every third word out of their mouth. Can't you express yourself by using other words in the English language. Plus...there's no context for it anyway.

That's my point.....

[Shastafarian]

Stop this trash. Thanks.

If I had known what a shitstorm my post was gonna start, I wouldn't have posted that picture.

[Marcus Bryant]

A league source said the Celtics’ pursuit of Wallace actually may affect the team’s ability to sign its own restricted free agent - not because of the Celtics’ ability to pay, but because of the increased chance one of the jilted Wallace suitors might then make an increased offer to Davis.

Orlando and San Antonio - both expected to meet with Wallace during the next week - are said to be interested in offering Davis most, if not all, of their midlevel exceptions as a contingency plan. The Grizzlies are also thinking about getting into the Big Baby sweepstakes.

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/basketball/celtics/view.bg?articleid=1183044&srvc=rss

Of course, everyone is ignoring the possibility that the Spurs were feigning interest in Davis in order to pressure the Celtics regarding Wallace. In any event, the forum is assuming that the reporter in question has current info on Davis, and not something he heard a couple of days ago.

And, of course, even if the Spurs are truly after Davis, the offseason will not be over, not by any stretch of the imagination. Assuming that this forum membership is comprised of more from Mars than from Venus, it is apparent that testosterone is in short supply in the world today.

[bishopospurs]

It will be serious ass if Big Baby is our big get. Maybe the spurs are trying to get Boston to back away from Wallace by smoke screening to get a sucker like Memphis to come in and sign Big Baby, then Boston can decide how bad it wants Wallace. I actually like Big Baby's game, but not when we already have Blair, we don't need two undersized 4's.

[DPG21920]

Depends. They're at $47 million as of now for 2010. No telling what the cap will be. Could be $56-$60 million.

:lol ya with 5 players. If Baby gets the MLE that would be 52M with 6 players and still no front court.

[timvp]

If this really goes down, it looks like it was a CIA okey doke. Go after Wallace just enough to get the Celtics to use the full MLE. Then use that opportunity to snag Big Baby :smokin

Well played CIA move. Too bad it landed Bonner minus three-point shooter.

[mogrovejo]

Big Baby strengths:
- Hustle. He works amazingly hard in the court.
- Inside defence. Very good low post defender - Duncan certainly agrees; he's nimble on his feet to the point he's actually decent hedging on ball-screens.
- Mid-range jump-shot, especially from the elbows. He worked very hard to develop one; he sucked for months, he became incrementally better and in the 2nd half of last season, he was a very good jump-shooter.
- Screener. Albeit frequently over-aggressive, gets called for moving screens too often.
- Passer. Good feeling for the game and good passing technique for a big. Also a good ball-handler. He's a very skilled player.
- Spacing. He moves well, knows where to be.

Weaknesses:
- Rebounding. He boxes out so it doesn't hurt that much, but he's atrocious. Too small, not explosive or quick getting up.
- Finisher. He's great making lay-ups: in fact, he was the most efficient Celtic in terms of lay-ups!! The problem is that you don't want your big to make lay-ups when he gets to the rim.
- Perimeter defence. Perimeter oriented 4s give him trouble; he has poor lateral quickness.
- Length. He's undersized with short arms and little leaping ability. People can shoot over him.
- Doesn't always know his limitations. He'll frequently try to do too much.
- Shape. Can this be a problem once he gets a big contract? He ended his 1st season a bit overweighted. On the other hand, he's said to be a hard working lad.

Final result: if he rebuilds his body and improves his leaping ability and explosiveness, he has the skills to be a good face-up 4, a la David West. A bit of a tweener, but a solid offensive player. If not, he is what he is: decent option as a energy backup for a team with great rebounding and in need for a midrange jump-shooter and high post player.

[bishopospurs]

Tyson Chandler is looking pretty good right now, maybe we are working a sign and trade for someone else.

[DPG21920]

:lol Free agency can be hilarious.

Hopefully we look back on this thread and laugh while crossing Tanqueray off the list as of reputable sources.

Yes, lets hope. This is the worst news to come out today. :lol as soon as I heard Sheed was not coming the first thing I said was "please no Baby or Bass".

Then 10 minutes later this comes out. FML.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

A league source said the Celtics’ pursuit of Wallace actually may affect the team’s ability to sign its own restricted free agent - not because of the Celtics’ ability to pay, but because of the increased chance one of the jilted Wallace suitors might then make an increased offer to Davis.

Orlando and San Antonio - both expected to meet with Wallace during the next week - are said to be interested in offering Davis most, if not all, of their midlevel exceptions as a contingency plan. The Grizzlies are also thinking about getting into the Big Baby sweepstakes.

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/basketball/celtics/view.bg?articleid=1183044&srvc=rss

:rolleyes

"...are said to be..." by whom? Probably Tanq. "Are said to be" is not a reliable source, especially considering the CIA mentality of the Spurs. You do realise this is the Boston Globe, right? What the fuck kind of access do they have to the Spurs FO? None. Go back to Understanding Media 101.

When this is confirmed by a reliable San Antonio source, or someone in the national media citing their source, I'll believe it. Until then, it's just meaningless words.

[Shastafarian]

:lol ya with 5 players. If Baby gets the MLE that would be 52M with 6 players and still no front court.

If we say the lux tax threshold will be $72 million, that's $20 million to work with. Need to sign 7 players with that. It's not a lot but to say they'll be "well into the tax" just isn't certain.

[DPG21920]

Nostradamus forum

Generic idiot forum. You could say this about everyone that post and idea or opinion (which is everyone).

Shhh.

[galvatron3000]

:rolleyes

"...are said to be..." by whom? Probably Tanq. "Are said to be" is not a reliable source, especially considering the CIA mentality of the Spurs. You do realise this is the Boston Globe, right? What the fuck kind of access do they have to the Spurs FO? None. Go back to Understanding Media 101.

whoa, homie I was just posting the info for your viewing, I', not a media person so keep that type of attitude for someone else.

[Kori Ellis]

Well the good news is they got Marcus Haislip for the minimum :lol

[poeticism707]

Big Baby strengths:
- Hustle. He works amazingly hard in the court.
- Inside defence. Very good low post defender - Duncan certainly agrees; he's nimble on his feet to the point he's actually decent hedging on ball-screens.
- Mid-range jump-shot, especially from the elbows. He worked very hard to develop one; he sucked for months, he became incrementally better and in the 2nd half of last season, he was a very good jump-shooter.
- Screener. Albeit frequently over-aggressive, gets called for moving screens too often.
- Passer. Good feeling for the game and good passing technique for a big. Also a good ball-handler. He's a very skilled player.
- Spacing. He moves well, knows where to be.

Weaknesses:
- Rebounding. He boxes out so it doesn't hurt that much, but he's atrocious. Too small, not explosive or quick getting up.
- Finisher. He's great making lay-ups: in fact, he was the most efficient Celtic in terms of lay-ups!! The problem is that you don't want your big to make lay-ups when he gets to the rim.
- Perimeter defence. Perimeter oriented 4s give him trouble; he has poor lateral quickness.
- Length. He's undersized with short arms and little leaping ability. People can shoot over him.
- Doesn't always know his limitations. He'll frequently try to do too much.
- Shape. Can this be a problem once he gets a big contract? He ended his 1st season a bit overweighted. On the other hand, he's said to be a hard working lad.

Final result: if he rebuilds his body and improves his leaping ability and explosiveness, he has the skills to be a good face-up 4, a la David West. A bit of a tweener, but a solid offensive player. If not, he is what he is: decent option as a energy backup for a team with great rebounding and in need for a midrange jump-shooter and high post player.

Great post. As I said, undersized or no, I think Davis is a great value for the money pick up for the MLE, and at 24 or so, could potentially be a steal.

[DPG21920]

Depends. They're at $47 million as of now for 2010. No telling what the cap will be. Could be $56-$60 million.





My point is he's not just some young hit or miss second rounder. The Spurs have a fair amount invested in him. I'm confident Davis would have to win the starting spot over him.


Nostradamus forum


Generic idiot forum. You could say this about everyone that post and idea or opinion (which is everyone).


Shhh.

See.

[Marcus Bryant]

Big Baby strengths:
- Hustle. He works amazingly hard in the court.
- Inside defence. Very good low post defender - Duncan certainly agrees; he's nimble on his feet to the point he's actually decent hedging on ball-screens.
- Mid-range jump-shot, especially from the elbows. He worked very hard to develop one; he sucked for months, he became incrementally better and in the 2nd half of last season, he was a very good jump-shooter.
- Screener. Albeit frequently over-aggressive, gets called for moving screens too often.
- Passer. Good feeling for the game and good passing technique for a big. Also a good ball-handler. He's a very skilled player.
- Spacing. He moves well, knows where to be.


The rebounding might be lacking but those aspects of his game would fit very well in SA. Not to mention that you have Jefferson at the 3 and we have the best rebounder in some time joining the team from the NCAA. And, again, there's no reason to believe that this would conclude the Spurs' frontcourt work this offseason.

[Shastafarian]

Generic idiot forum. You could say this about everyone that post and idea or opinion (which is everyone).

Shhh.

:lol You said, "If the moves were RJ and Baby that would be a fail more than likely". This is more than an opinion.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

whoa, homie I was just posting the info for your viewing, I', not a media person so keep that type of attitude for someone else.

You posted it in reply to my post about confirmation, and I am simply pointing out that your post was not confirmation... it was "are said to be" which equals meaningless conjecture.

Apologies for the vitriol, but it pisses me off that people just take in media like it's gospel rather than actually LOOKING AT THE WORDS.

[poeticism707]

The rebounding might be lacking but those aspects of his game would fit very well in SA. Not to mention that you have Jefferson at the 3 and we have the best rebounder in some time joining the team from the NCAA. And, again, there's no reason to believe that this would conclude the Spurs' frontcourt work this offseason.

Great points: I agree with all. :toast

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Man this is all just too weird. Reports seem to indicate that we didn't go after Rasheed hard. Now we're hearing about Haislip, and being mentioned for Big Baby, both of whom really are backup bigs if that.

Makes me think something is up. Either Splitter's coming, we've been quietly working on a 'Dice/Zaza type pickup, or a trade is in the works for our starting big...

[MarHill]

Well the good news is they got Marcus Haislip for the minimum :lol


Kori,

Thanks for reminding us of the positive!! :lol

[Shastafarian]

See.

Yeah problem is I was basing what I was saying on observations. Like Davis being a bench player in Boston. Him only getting so much playing time because of injuries. The cap number was a guess based on the projected number this year. You're basing everything on...well nothing since neither RJ or Davis have played in the Spurs system.

[Ace9]

Please no...please..oh please...

[Big P]

You have got to be fucking kidding me.

[TheProfessor]

Overweight player + Big Contract = Bad News

Humorous that we drafted Marcus Williams in 2007 and may be set to offer the MLE to a guy who fell two spots behind him. Oh well.

[jcrod]

SOB if this is true. :bang wtf are they thinking.

[Spursmania]

Well this certainly was not what I expected. The FO should be able to do better than Big Baby. The guy is too short, overweight and slow.:sleep

I refuse to believe this until we see it officially happen. I'm just going to hold on to some more hope right now.:flag:

[DPG21920]

Bonner minus the 3 point shooting/rebounding/shot blocking! V-Bookie on the over/under moving screens called on Baby if he becomes a Spur?

[DPG21920]

:lol You said, "If the moves were RJ and Baby that would be a fail more than likely". This is more than an opinion.

More than likely is far from saying it would be and I also followed that by I could be wrong.

You were saying?

[timvp]

BggdtvqKHyI

Well at least he's not scared to take big shots. Bonner would have hit the side of the backboard as he wet himself in that situation.

[Kori Ellis]

You posted it in reply to my post about confirmation, and I am simply pointing out that your post was not confirmation... it was "are said to be" which equals meaningless conjecture.

"are said to be" is about as good as it gets right now. No one is at Pop/RC's house knowing what they are doing (Oh Pop is probably on his way to France anyway).

I have no reason to believe the Boston reporters, but they have no reason to be making stuff up at this point either. The Spurs will probably look at Big Baby, just like they are looking at Bass. Hopefully they won't throw the whole MLE at either of them.

But hey, Spurs fans have been begging for the team to get young... so you all can't cry if they get Big Baby over Sheed/Dice. :lol

[Shastafarian]

Generic idiot forum. You could say this about everyone that post and idea or opinion (which is everyone).

Shhh.

Thanks for calling me an idiot though. Usually name calling is resorted to when arguments are weak.

[DesignatedT]

YOU MOTHER FUCKERS!!!!!!~!!!!

http://www.boston.com/community/photos/raw/davis_big_baby.jpg

[Shastafarian]

More than likely is far from saying it would be and I also followed that by I could be wrong.

You were saying?

Ever take statistics?

[galvatron3000]

You posted it in reply to my post about confirmation, and I am simply pointing out that your post was not confirmation... it was "are said to be" which equals meaningless conjecture.

I didn't say it was confirmation but I did think it was another source. The last part about going back to media 101 was a bit out of left field, perhaps I shouldn't have read it the way I did. Either way those are the rumblings and Big Baby could be on his way to SPurs town :pctoss

[MB20]

How can we go from Sheed, Dice, Zaza......to Big Baby??? Unbelievable...:depressed

[DPG21920]

Yeah problem is I was basing what I was saying on observations. Like Davis being a bench player in Boston. Him only getting so much playing time because of injuries. The cap number was a guess based on the projected number this year. You're basing everything on...well nothing since neither RJ or Davis have played in the Spurs system.

Bull shit. You just look dumb because you made a stupid, generic and un funny comment when you could not back up anything with logic or common basketball knowledge.

[Marcus Bryant]

Davis was not close to the top of my list for a starting big, but if they are interested, I can see the logic in their interest, especially as a reserve big.

The Spurs are in need of role players now. Again and again we look for the all-star lineup in this forum when what's needed is not stats but someone whose game fits the team. After seeing the impact of Bowen on this team and the championships it led to, you'd think we'd learned by now.

[DPG21920]

BggdtvqKHyI

Well at least he's not scared to take big shots. Bonner would have hit the side of the backboard as he wet himself in that situation.

Yes, but like I mentioned, that shot has everyone over rating him as a "good" shooter. He is ok. But he did hit a few big shots in the playoffs, so that sticks in people's minds.

Also, he gets too much credit for being a good low post defender. Not true at all.

[Gant]

I have to disagree with anyone saying Baby is slow or has poor lateral movement. The reason he can play with short arms and not much leap is because he is incredibly nimble for such a big man. He is exceptionally quick footed and even has successfully cut off opposing point guards on switches.

He has his shortcomings but his feet are gold.

[Shastafarian]

Bull shit. You just look dumb because you made a stupid, generic and un funny comment when you could not back up anything with logic or common basketball knowledge.

How can I use logic or common basketball knowledge when I have to counter your conjecture? Oh and I'm pretty sure I laid out a decent argument why you're wrong about Davis automatically getting the starting spot. Care to counter any of what I said in that post?

[poeticism707]

BggdtvqKHyI

Well at least he's not scared to take big shots. Bonner would have hit the side of the backboard as he wet himself in that situation.
:lol:lol:lol

True! Davis isn't intimated by the moment, the pressure as so many others are!

Poor Bonner!

[objective]

Overweight player + Big Contract = Bad News

Humorous that we drafted Marcus Williams in 2007 and may be set to offer the MLE to a guy who fell two spots behind him. Oh well.

:lol

it's true it's true

Marcus Williams for the loss

[DPG21920]

Thanks for calling me an idiot though. Usually name calling is resorted to when arguments are weak.

Like calling players gay?

[DPG21920]

Ever take statistics?

You are an idiot.

[Marcus Bryant]

Well at least he's not scared to take big shots. Bonner would have hit the side of the backboard as he wet himself in that situation.

True. He knows his role, knows how to compete, and has been a part of a championship run and damn near helped the Garnett-less Celtics drop the eventual Eastern Conference champs in the last postseason.

Him over Bonner anytime. If you needed confirmation that Bonner was on his way out, the Spurs targeting guys like Davis and Bass should be it.

[Shastafarian]

Like calling players gay?

Um...no. Actually, nothing like that.

[Marcus Bryant]

I have to disagree with anyone saying Baby is slow or has poor lateral movement. The reason he can play with short arms and not much leap is because he is incredibly nimble for such a big man. He is exceptionally quick footed and even has successfully cut off opposing point guards on switches.

He has his shortcomings but his feet are gold.

Stop. Making. Sense.

[Shastafarian]

You are an idiot.

I'll take that as a no.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Yes, but like I mentioned, that shot has everyone over rating him as a "good" shooter. He is ok. But he did hit a few big shots in the playoffs, so that sticks in people's minds.

Also, he gets too much credit for being a good low post defender. Not true at all.

He also hit some big shots in college too. Guy has no fear in crunch time.

[galvatron3000]

He's more than welcome to come if it means some guys will be used in a trade to get some real starter help. BB is a welcome bench addition but not a starter

[bdictjames]

How tall is the guy? We need some height basically inside.

And the Celts are pulling a Chapter off the old Spurs playbook, sign as many worn-out star players as you can. Forget the future. :lol

[DPG21920]

How can I use logic or common basketball knowledge when I have to counter your conjecture? Oh and I'm pretty sure I laid out a decent argument why you're wrong about Davis automatically getting the starting spot. Care to counter any of what I said in that post?

I already did. He would be the highest paid big with the most experience and a championship ring on the Spurs outside of Duncan.

I never claimed that I was speaking in facts, but you made an stupid generic comment about predicting the future when everyone that writes an opinion the Spurs does so.

[Shastafarian]

He's more than welcome to come if it means some guys will be used in a trade to get some real starter help. BB is a welcome bench addition but not a starter

Him being signed (still not confirmed) means he's automatically starting! Haven't you heard?

[Kori Ellis]

How tall is the guy? We need some height basically inside.

And the Celts are pulling a Chapter off the old Spurs playbook, sign as many worn-out star players as you can. Forget the future. :lol

6'8 or a little under.

[Kori Ellis]

DPG21920 vs Shastafarian - take your argument out of this thread, it's making it difficult to read.

Thanks.

[poeticism707]

True. He knows his role, knows how to compete, and has been a part of a championship run and damn near helped the Garnett-less Celtics drop the eventual Eastern Conference champs in the last postseason.

And THIS is the part that's being underrated by Spurs fans here: Davis contributed ALL GAME LONG INCLUDING CLUTCH TIME to a CHAMPIONSHIP CELTICS TEAM: not some lottery team. That doesn't diminish his accomplishments, it ENHANCES THEM. At 24, it's EASY to see why the FO would choose Davis over Sheed, ESPECIALLY FOR ONLY THE MLE!!!

[afireinside20]

This would be a major, major blunder. Please do not let this be true. Please. If this is true, like I said, I HATE the RJ trade overall. Spurs will be capped out and out of the 2010 race.

No way you pay the luxury tax for Big Baby. Tim would ask to be traded.

I don't think Tim would ever asked to be traded from here, he loves San Antonio, and I believe he has a lot of say in what the FO does. You know with him being the captain and all.


Big Baby Per 36 Minutes
6.6 rebounds
0.4 blocks

Big Bonner Per 36 Minutes
7.2 rebounds
0.5 blocks

And as for Big Baby Davis, sure his stats make him seem like even the sorry ass Bonner is better. However Glenn does stuff that doesn't show up on the stat cheat, like hustle, play defense whether it's just putting his hand up to guard and even deflecting balls, all those small things help. Plus this Spurs system is a whole different environment for him, give him a chance. He could be a monster for us with the tutelage of Tim Duncan and Pop, it beats the screaming and headbutting that KG gave him in Boston.

[galvatron3000]

6'8 or a little under.

I'd bet closer to a lil under

[Spursmania]

http://www.boston.com/ae/celebrity/more_names/blog/big%20baby.jpg

He's supposedly a really good guy...

[dbestpro]

Davis pretty much carried Boston in the playoffs after KG went down. He is coming as much into his own as Ariza and everyone thought he was a pretty good signing. davis and Blair may not be tall, but the two of them on the floor together would lay a hurt on ya. I think this is a great pick up if it happens. With a muscular Mahinmi and Haislip we would have a return to the days of the bruise brothers. Oh, I know everyone wanted the over the hill ex Pistons. I think the Spurs fron office know that they need youth to stay healthy. Davis may be the best bang for the buck in this regard.

[DPG21920]

He also hit some big shots in college too. Guy has no fear in crunch time.

That is a good thing. I am just saying overall he is not as good of a shooter as some make him out to be. But it does not hurt to have guys who can hit shots when they matter the most.

If the Spurs are interested in him for the bench and they will go out and trade for a bigman that is a legit starter, then great.

[timvp]

How tall is the guy?He actually measured 6-foot-9 in shoes at the combine. Everyone was expecting him to measure closer to 6-foot-6.

That said, he looks like he has short arms and isn't much of a leaper. He plays like he's undersized even though he's technically not.

[Ditty]

glen davis cant rebound and block shots worth crap

but IMO if were going to trade for maybe camby (if we can) than davis coming off the bench as our scorer can do as well or better than gooden

he's only 23 also

camby/blair/mihinmi(moving to power foward when he subs in for camby)
duncan/davis/hailsap

also davis>bass

not too bad compared to bonner and thomas

[galvatron3000]

He actually measured 6-foot-9 in shoes at the combine. Everyone was expecting him to measure closer to 6-foot-6.

That said, he looks like he has short arms and isn't much of a leaper. He plays like he's undersized even though he's technically not.

ah, makes sense cause I would have put money on him being under 6'8

[EricB]

Yeah I have to agree I don't like this move, if it indeed happens.

I think hestoo soft around the rim, his low post game is mediocre, while as its been said he got alot of points, he took alot of shots to get it.

I'd personally much rather have Antonio McDyess.

[mingus]

6'8 or a little under.

with a 3-inch wingspan. :depressed

[Shastafarian]

I already did. He would be the highest paid big with the most experience and a championship ring on the Spurs outside of Duncan. I don't see how any of that changes the fact he was a bench player in Boston. He has 15 minutes of Finals experience. Garbage minutes in game 6.


I never claimed that I was speaking in facts, but you made an stupid generic comment about predicting the future when everyone that writes an opinion the Spurs does so.
Not everyone. You started predicting things because they suited your argument about the RJ trade.

[scottspurs]

Taco Cabana employees all over San Antonio rejoice. Overtime.

With Blair and Big Baby Spurs will have a helluva flag footbal team.

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Good to know not everyone is freaking out. That is the funniest post I have ever seen on ST. I can't stop laughing.:lmao:rollin:lol The spurs will be fine. Get pumped it's going to be a great season. :lmao I just can't stop laughing.:lmao

[Marcus Bryant]

If true, Pop and TD are tired of having shrinking violets playing in the frontcourt.

Boston won a title with this guy getting significant minutes in the frontcourt, despite his Bonner-like rebounding and shotblocking stats....

[clubalien]

http://www.boston.com/ae/celebrity/more_names/blog/big%20baby.jpg


please tell me we aren't now saying he is a child predator :nope

[Death In June]

Don't rationalize it. This move would be retarded.

[DPG21920]

DPG21920 vs Shastafarian - take your argument out of this thread, it's making it difficult to read.

Thanks.

It is all Glen Davis related, but I will not respond to him anymore.

[Ditty]

p.s rather have mdyess though

[ffadicted]

Big Baby Per 36 Minutes
6.6 rebounds
0.4 blocks

Big Bonner Per 36 Minutes
7.2 rebounds
0.5 blocks

Oh fuck me
Timmy and Tony must be shitting their pants right now.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

"are said to be" is about as good as it gets right now. No one is at Pop/RC's house knowing what they are doing (Oh Pop is probably on his way to France anyway).

I have no reason to believe the Boston reporters, but they have no reason to be making stuff up at this point either. The Spurs will probably look at Big Baby, just like they are looking at Bass. Hopefully they won't throw the whole MLE at either of them.

But hey, Spurs fans have been begging for the team to get young... so you all can't cry if they get Big Baby over Sheed/Dice. :lol

"Are said to be" is as close as we get right now - my point is that it's meaningless. You are in the media game, you know this as well as I do.

Sure the Boston reporters have a reason to report heresay - hits on their website. The are currently getting 100s-1000s of unique hits from San Antonians who otherwise have no reason to go to the Globe website, and it costs them nothing to be proven wrong because all they've reported is "are said to be" (i.e. vague rumours).

The Spurs FO has made two fantastic moves this off-season in RJ and Blair, and I see no reason why they'd crap out with the MLE. They know what the team needs, and I won't believe they made this bad a decision until we get decent, reliable confirmation of it.

People are loving the :pctoss , woe is us stuff though, so at least it's boosting your hit count too! :D ;)


I didn't say it was confirmation but I did think it was another source. The last part about going back to media 101 was a bit out of left field, perhaps I shouldn't have read it the way I did. Either way those are the rumblings and Big Baby could be on his way to SPurs town :pctoss

My point is that it isn't another source, not a reliable one anyway. Someone in the Boston Globe's office read Tanq's Tweet and turned it into "are said to be", otherwise they'd be citing their source with far more certainty like "a member of the Celtics'/Spurs' organisation".

[DPG21920]

I don't see how any of that changes the fact he was a bench player in Boston. He has 15 minutes of Finals experience. Garbage minutes in game 6.


Not everyone. You started predicting things because they suited your argument about the RJ trade.


If true, Pop and TD are tired of having shrinking violets playing in the frontcourt.

Boston won a title with this guy getting significant minutes in the frontcourt, despite his Bonner-like rebounding and shotblocking stats....

[Marcus Bryant]

Spurs are looking for role players now. If they can't get the points they need from the Big Four then they are screwed from the start.

[timvp]

Big Baby hits about 37% of his jumpers ... so not too great.

If the Spurs are really going after Big Baby and Bass, the thinking must be to put a mobile four next to Duncan and let Duncan play more even more of a center role.

[Spursmania]

please tell me we aren't now saying he is a child predator :nope

Come on... Didn't you read the post?

[Kori Ellis]

You are an idiot.


It is all Glen Davis related, but I will not respond to him anymore.

No, it's not really :lol

[Marcus Bryant]

p.s rather have mdyess though

I concur, but I think this could be a crafty move, especially if they find a decent starting bigman via trade or via Spain.

[scottspurs]

Davis pretty much carried Boston in the playoffs after KG went down. He is coming as much into his own as Ariza and everyone thought he was a pretty good signing. davis and Blair may not be tall, but the two of them on the floor together would lay a hurt on ya. I think this is a great pick up if it happens. With a muscular Mahinmi and Haislip we would have a return to the days of the bruise brothers. Oh, I know everyone wanted the over the hill ex Pistons. I think the Spurs fron office know that they need youth to stay healthy. Davis may be the best bang for the buck in this regard.

Thats what I'm talking about. GO SPURS GO!!!!!:flag:

[mingus]

if Spurs sign Baby i hope he isn't "the big" signing of the off-season . i would prefer McDyess, Pachullia, or Bird Man over Big Baby. i don't think Baby is starting material, although he did play well in the playoffs .

if Spurs are able to get him and Rasho i think that's okay. Spurs do need a 7-footer though. guys lie Blair, Big Baby, Haislap, Bonner are too short.

[DPG21920]

Big Baby hits about 37% of his jumpers ... so not too great.

If the Spurs are really going after Big Baby and Bass, the thinking must be to put a mobile four next to Duncan and let Duncan play more even more of a center role.

Do you agree with this strategy if true?

[Shastafarian]

Boston won a title with this guy getting significant minutes in the frontcourt, despite his Bonner-like rebounding and shotblocking stats....

FYI he didn't play in the Finals until Game 6. The game Boston won by 39 points. I'll go back and check his minutes throughout the playoffs now. Might take a while.

[Spursmania]

I concur, but I think this could be a crafty move, especially if they find a decent starting bigman via trade or via Spain.


MB, Why do you think it could be a crafty move?

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Media Awareness classes should be compulsory for all children from grade 4-12. The media is so good at trotting out heresay, half-truths, and misleading garbage as "FACT!", and people really need to get better at seeing through it in order for democracy to fun ction properly.

/rant

[DPG21920]

No, it's not really :lol

Well most of it....:lol

Do you see what The Baby is doing to this family? It is tearing us apart.

At least I did not say "your an idiot."

[Kori Ellis]

My point is that it isn't another source, not a reliable one anyway. Someone in the Boston Globe's office read Tanq's Tweet and turned it into "are said to be", otherwise they'd be citing their source with far more certainty like "a member of the Celtics'/Spurs' organisation".

:lol I just don't get why you don't think Tanq could be a reliable source for anything but any other beat reporter or writer could be.

He obviously knows people in the Celtics organization or he wouldn't have broken the news about Rasheed signing.

Anyway, it doesn't matter and I don't care if the Spurs get Big Baby or not; I just think it's hilarious that you are so against him being possibly right.