Rockets sign Ariza without using the MLE [Archive]

djohn2oo8

07-08-2009, 03:06 PM

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/sports/nba/090708_rockets_ariza_yao

HOUSTON - The Houston Rockets used the NBA Disabled Player Exception to sign free agent forward Trevor Ariza (http://spurstalk.com/forums/#), according to general manager Daryl Morey.

The NBA granted the Disabled Player Exception based on the fact that Yao Ming (http://spurstalk.com/forums/#) is not expected to play next season because of his broken left foot.
"As a course of business to give us maximum flexibility, we applied for an injury exception for Yao and it was granted by the league," Morey said in an interview with FOX 26 Sports on Wednesday.

"That will allow us to use the Mid-Level Exception to improve the Rockets roster going forward."By granting the Disabled Player Exception, the NBA is agreeing with the Rockets that it is unlikely that Yao will play during the 2009-2010 season. However, it does not rule out Yao's return. Also, in the unlikely event that Yao does play next season, the Rockets would not be penalized.

The value of the NBA Disabled Player Exception is identical to the Mid-Level Exception. They both begin at approximately $5.8 million per year.
The Rockets chose to use the Disabled Player Exception on Ariza because the NBA only allows it to be used on one player. The Mid-Level Exception can be broken up and used on one or more players.
While Yao is not expected to play next season, he has yet to determine how he will treat his injury going forward.

"I am still considering what course of action is best," Yao said in a statement to FOX 26 Sports issued through his agent John Huizinga.
"Once a decision has been made, I will let people know and I will proceed with the same high level of optimism and dedication that I have had in the past. I look forward to returning to play as soon as my recovery allows."

BlackBellamy

07-08-2009, 03:07 PM

The smart, smart little smarties.

ginobili's bald spot

07-08-2009, 03:11 PM

Wow. I didn't even know about that. Well played rockets.

The Franchise

07-08-2009, 03:15 PM

Heres to you Morey. :toast

frequency

07-08-2009, 03:16 PM

gg rox

DPG21920

07-08-2009, 03:16 PM

Nice move and now that is the reason they did not help out the Lakers with a S&T. So maybe the Lakers are not confident about Lamar being back, they just had no choice.

rayray2k8

07-08-2009, 03:17 PM

Very nice job.

Obstructed_View

07-08-2009, 03:19 PM

I thought they couldn't apply for the exception until the year after he was out.

The Franchise

07-08-2009, 03:21 PM

Nice move and now that is the reason they did not help out the Lakers with a S&T. So maybe the Lakers are not confident about Lamar being back, they just had no choice.

Didn't even think about that. Nice observation :lol.

ginobili's bald spot

07-08-2009, 03:22 PM

Nice move and now that is the reason they did not help out the Lakers with a S&T. So maybe the Lakers are not confident about Lamar being back, they just had no choice.

Son Odom isn't going anywhere.

sribb43

07-08-2009, 03:22 PM

Can they get another disabled exception for T-mac?

Thunder Dan

07-08-2009, 03:22 PM

if everything goes well for the Rockets, they will still hover around the 7-5 seed and be ousted by the 2nd round....thats Rockets basketball in a nutshell

The Franchise

07-08-2009, 03:23 PM

Can they get another disabled exception for T-mac?

If only.

noob cake

07-08-2009, 03:23 PM

I thought they couldn't apply for the exception until the year after he was out.

Stern loves his ca$h cows (note the s) in the league. It is the least he could do for Yao.

CubanMustGo

07-08-2009, 03:24 PM

So what happens if Yao comes back and plays this year?

robbie380

07-08-2009, 03:24 PM

if everything goes well for the Rockets, they will still hover around the 7-5 seed and be ousted by the 2nd round....thats Rockets basketball in a nutshell

how many days till facial leaves town?

The Franchise

07-08-2009, 03:25 PM

So what happens if Yao comes back and plays this year?

Nothing incredibly.

Allanon

07-08-2009, 03:25 PM

Cool move by the Rockets. Still having the MLE, they can still pick up a decent big man. That would be interesting if they picked up Allen Iverson :lol

As for the Lakers, without getting back the MLE in a Sign&Trade, the most they can hope for is a vet minimum player (if they let Odom walk). Seems to me the Lakers will re-sign Lamar at any cost now.

Bob Lanier

07-08-2009, 03:26 PM

I thought they couldn't apply for the exception until the year after he was out.
It seems that you are not, in fact, in control of the meaning or interpretation of the NBA's operational rules.

2Cleva

07-08-2009, 03:27 PM

Houston tried the S&T first. LA is the ones who wouldn't agree. No doubt they'd rather S&T Ariza and still have the MLE and Injury Exception to play with/

oligarchy

07-08-2009, 03:28 PM

I thought they couldn't apply for the exception until the year after he was out.

Thought the same, but I guess it's true.

4) Disabled Player Exception. A team may replace a player who suffers a season-ending injury with one player making up to 50% of the injured player’s current salary, up to a maximum of the average player salary. The Disabled Player Exception is available in the following circumstances:

(a) If the player is injured between July 1 and November 30 and is determined to be out for that season, the team has 45 days to use the Exception; or

(b) If the player is injured between December 1 and June 30 and is determined to be out for the subsequent season, the team has until the following October 1 to use the Exception.

lefty

07-08-2009, 03:29 PM

Damn :tu

Can we trade RC Buford for the Rocket's GM ?

Kai

07-08-2009, 03:31 PM

Wow, we got Ariza for free!

tomtom

07-08-2009, 03:31 PM

Wow well played rox, now go another step forward and take odom :lol

hater

07-08-2009, 03:31 PM

can we get a Disabled Exception for Jacque Vaughn?

sribb43

07-08-2009, 03:32 PM

Amare was "not expected to play" the season with micro facture surgery and i dont remember PHX getting anything then.

hater

07-08-2009, 03:33 PM

Amare was "not expected to play" the season with micro facture surgery and i dont remember PHX getting anything then.

LOL Suns

The Franchise

07-08-2009, 03:38 PM

I wonder if we can get back into the Gortat talks? ;)

Mr Bones

07-08-2009, 03:41 PM

The prognosis for Yao must be pretty bad if the NBA is willing to grant this.

djohn2oo8

07-08-2009, 03:42 PM

Gortat said he didn't want to come to Houston because their is too much pressure trying to replace Yao

Kai

07-08-2009, 03:43 PM

If anything, we can now re-sign Wafer if we want.

ginobili's bald spot

07-08-2009, 03:43 PM

Who are you gonna get for that MLE Houston fans? Who is left? Who do you want?

djohn2oo8

07-08-2009, 03:44 PM

A core of Lowry, Brooks, Landry, Ariza, Scola, Wafer?

Shank

07-08-2009, 03:44 PM

Make a play for McDyess.

djohn2oo8

07-08-2009, 03:45 PM

Who are you gonna get for that MLE Houston fans? Who is left? Who do you want?

Moves are gonna be made through trade, probably

Thunder Dan

07-08-2009, 03:47 PM

A core of Lowry, Brooks, Landry, Ariza, Scola, Wafer?

:lmao thats intimidating

djohn2oo8

07-08-2009, 03:47 PM

Hmm, since Jordan is the GM of the Bobcats, Morey should find a way to get Okafor for Cook.....If he did that, then Morey has to be proclaimed the best GM ever

djohn2oo8

07-08-2009, 03:48 PM

:lmao thats intimidating

Plus a Bosh, and/or possibly Wade in 2010

Cavs core = Lebron

ginobili's bald spot

07-08-2009, 03:48 PM

Make a play for McDyess.

:lol co-sign.

Brazil

07-08-2009, 03:49 PM

Make a play for McDyess.

:nope

The worst is that Houston is capable to screw the spurs just for pleasure :bang

I hope they'll go after Odom

DPG21920

07-08-2009, 03:49 PM

You did not get Ariza for free :lol.

You still had to pay for him, just did not have to use the MLE. He cost the same and goes on the books the same way.

Why would the Lakers not want to do a S&T 2cleva?

Double-Up

07-08-2009, 03:50 PM

:lol co-sign.

I don't think we're gonna cockblock the Spurs like that.

ginobili's bald spot

07-08-2009, 03:50 PM

:nope

The worst is that Houston is capable to screw the spurs just for pleasure :bang

I hope they'll go after Odom

You think the Lakers are gonna let Odom walk for a MLE offer? :lmao

djohn2oo8

07-08-2009, 03:52 PM

Haha no we have no reason to cockblock the spurs for Mcdyess.....Still can't believe Toronto of all places cockblocked Portland

anjlbitz

07-08-2009, 03:58 PM

I don't think we're gonna cockblock the Spurs like that.

History says otherwise....

ginobili's bald spot

07-08-2009, 04:00 PM

Bass?
McDyess?
Big Baby?

DUNCANownsKOBE2

07-08-2009, 04:01 PM

Can the Suns get one of these injury exceptions if Nash gets run over by a car?

I'll go start the engine.

djohn2oo8

07-08-2009, 04:01 PM

Wouldn't mind getting Bass at all

Brazil

07-08-2009, 04:04 PM

You think the Lakers are gonna let Odom walk for a MLE offer? :lmao

be kind with a nervous spurs fan

DUNCANownsKOBE2

07-08-2009, 04:07 PM

Amare was "not expected to play" the season with micro facture surgery and i dont remember PHX getting anything then.

He had the surgery in October it wouldn't have done any good. Also keep in mind owners with no NBA knowledge like Sarver don't try to capitalize on stuff like this.

ginobili's bald spot

07-08-2009, 04:08 PM

be kind with a nervous spurs fan

Hey look on the bright side, maybe the Rockets will do you guys a favor and sign Big Baby.

Thunder Dan

07-08-2009, 04:12 PM

Plus a Bosh, and/or possibly Wade in 2010

Cavs core = Lebron

:lol Wade or Bosh coming to play with Aaron Brooks and Trevor Ariza. Thats great

Obstructed_View

07-08-2009, 04:13 PM

It seems that you are not, in fact, in control of the meaning or interpretation of the NBA's operational rules.

Since there are several other posters whose basketball knowledge I respect that are also taken aback by this sequence of events, what's your point?

IOW, what are you butt-hurt about? :lol

Ditty

07-08-2009, 04:14 PM

bass or big baby wont worry me

david lee or paul milsap will

but them two are defintly getting more than the MLE

i prefer bass to houston :)

ginobili's bald spot

07-08-2009, 04:16 PM

When you have the chance to give up millions of dollars to play with a Aaron Brooks or a Trevor Ariza you gotta pull the trigger.

nil.ball

07-08-2009, 04:16 PM

if rockets were to get a bass, it better be a damn fish!

Double-Up

07-08-2009, 04:17 PM

:lol Wade or Bosh coming to play with Aaron Brooks and Trevor Ariza. Thats great

Get a life. :wgaf:

Brazil

07-08-2009, 04:17 PM

Hey look on the bright side, maybe the Rockets will do you guys a favor and sign Big Baby.

at this rythm maybe big bab is not so bad, sheed gone, zaza gone and dice playing with our nerves... yeah I know I'm quite desperate right now

The Franchise

07-08-2009, 04:26 PM

:lol Wade or Bosh coming to play with Aaron Brooks and Trevor Ariza. Thats great

Better than going to play with a 39 year old Shaq and Delonte west. :lol

TheMACHINE

07-08-2009, 06:12 PM

Wow, we got Ariza for free!

Based on the NBA Disabled Player Exception, you got Ariza for Yao Ming. :king

djohn2oo8

07-08-2009, 06:19 PM

Morey said he is pursuing another free agent, and hoped to announce another signing "in the next week or two." But he said the Rockets mostly likely would acquire a center to replace Yao through a trade this summer.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4314726

interesting, but there is no one good left

Kai

07-08-2009, 06:42 PM

Based on the NBA Disabled Player Exception, you got Ariza for Yao Ming. :king

:jack

Lars

07-08-2009, 06:46 PM

djohn2oo8

07-08-2009, 06:50 PM

Well if we were going to be a running team, we could get away with an athletic PF as center.

Stoudamire!!! Go get him Morey!!!

IronMexican

07-08-2009, 06:53 PM

You guys are talking about Ron being a team killer, but want Stout? Neither one is a team killer, but I find it funny you say that. Stout is a pussy and complains a lot.

Lars

07-08-2009, 06:54 PM

Stoudamire!!! Go get him Morey!!!

I'd offer up McGrady, Battier and Landry for Stoudamire + Jrich or Barbosa.

If that went through we could potentially not be a lottery team in 2009 with a nice starting line up for a run and gun team.

Culburn369

07-08-2009, 06:59 PM

...Sure, but please leave Battier's hand back in Houston. Kobe uses it to sight with.

bdictjames

07-08-2009, 07:07 PM

I advise the Rockets to go all out on Odom!

Lars

07-08-2009, 07:32 PM

...Sure, but please leave Battier's hand back in Houston. Kobe uses it to sight with.

Battier did an excellent job on Kobe. Probably as good as anyone in the league 1v1.

DPG21920

07-08-2009, 07:33 PM

Any news on Odom?

IronMexican

07-08-2009, 07:34 PM

I advise the Rockets to go all out on Odom!

The 6 million they have to offer is sure to get him.

ginobili's bald spot

07-08-2009, 07:34 PM

I advise the Rockets to go all out on Odom!

I advise you to learn what bird rights and mid level exception mean.

robbie380

07-08-2009, 07:35 PM

robbie380

07-08-2009, 07:37 PM

Kai

07-08-2009, 07:50 PM

djohn2oo8

07-08-2009, 07:50 PM

also guys....there is about a 100% chance that morey will NOT use the MLE on a free agent but instead use it on our 2nd rounders to sign them to longer deals. morey isn't going to repeat the landry mistake again.

Morey said he is pursuing another free agent, and hoped to announce another signing "in the next week or two." But he said the Rockets mostly likely would acquire a center to replace Yao through a trade this summer.

Rogue

07-08-2009, 08:44 PM

I'd offer up McGrady, Battier and Landry for Stoudamire + Jrich or Barbosa.

If that went through we could potentially not be a lottery team in 2009 with a nice starting line up for a run and gun team.
Surely J-Rich will be agglutinated with Amare, so Barbosa isn't gonna come to Houston anyways. With the 7'6 huge piece of **** out for next season, Rockets will have no big guy to work as the axis in their lento half-court offense. Run-gun seems to be the only way for Rockets to keep themselves looking like a contender next season.

R4R

07-08-2009, 08:54 PM

The one good thing about the 2009-2010 season is that the Rockets are very used to playing without Yao. There will be little to no chemistry problem...Trevor Ariza seems like a player who will fit in with Adelman's offense.

baseline bum

07-08-2009, 09:24 PM

I figured they would have changed that rule by now. I remember the NBA wasn't too happy about Sean Elliott returning mid-season after they granted that exception to the Spurs when he got a kidney transplant in 99-00.

carrao45

07-08-2009, 09:46 PM

Can they get another disabled exception for T-mac?

Nope. They were trying to decide whether to apply for it using T-Mac or Yao. But they decided since Yao is more likely to miss all of next season, they would use it on him instead of McGrady

carrao45

07-08-2009, 09:53 PM

Battier did an excellent job on Kobe. Probably as good as anyone in the league 1v1.

This is true...But that shows how amazing Kobe is because he still played great

Kill_Bill_Pana

07-08-2009, 09:59 PM

A core of Lowry, Brooks, Landry, Ariza, Scola, Wafer?

Lowry and Wafer are not even average level players.

carrao45

07-08-2009, 10:03 PM

I wish Ariza the best

djohn2oo8

07-08-2009, 10:38 PM

Lowry and Wafer are not even average level players.

They are 23 and 24, they are still young

RuffnReadyOzStyle

07-09-2009, 02:44 AM

One thing I don't understand about Ariza's move... why did he leave the Lakers??? I may be wrong, but weren't they willing to offer him the MLE? Didn't he leave because he wanted a contract above the MLE?

IronMexican

07-09-2009, 03:02 AM

RuffnReadyOzStyle

07-09-2009, 03:42 AM

The Lakers let him go, not the other way around.

So, the Lakers didn't want him back because they preferred Artest? Interesting.

ChickHearnMic

07-09-2009, 03:58 AM

Trevor's agent David Lee is the Josh Weinstein of Sport Agents
http://n2.cdn.spikedhumor.com/1/586000/135839_ari_1.jpg

mystargtr34

07-09-2009, 05:08 AM

What if they bite the bullet and go after Gortat for the entire MLE now :lol. He hasnt put pen to paper yet has he?

Chieflion

07-09-2009, 06:03 AM

What if they bite the bullet and go after Gortat for the entire MLE now :lol. He hasnt put pen to paper yet has he?
Not yet. I think Gortat wants to see the market more and would prefer to see how much he could get before he signs an offer sheet.

montgod

07-09-2009, 06:24 AM

Gortat said he didn't want to come to Houston because their is too much pressure trying to replace Yao

I don't know how I would take this if I were a Dallas fan. Too much pressure?? Are you joking? I thought that is what the NBA was about... to go and showcase your skills. Hmmm... sounds like he is a :loser

Rogue

07-09-2009, 06:31 AM

They are 23 and 24, they are still young
You are only 19 but time can never help you quit being an idiot, oppositely it keeps aggravating your stupidity day in and day out. It will be pretty interesting to calibrate what kind of idiot you may become when reaching LJ's age, provided you can live that long without committing suicide midway by eating some lizard shit.

djohn2oo8

07-09-2009, 07:48 AM

You are only 19 but time can never help you quit being an idiot, oppositely it keeps aggravating your stupidity day in and day out. It will be pretty interesting to calibrate what kind of idiot you may become when reaching LJ's age, provided you can live that long without committing suicide midway by eating some lizard shit.

Have you ever seen that episode of family guy where peter was classified as "beyond retarded"? Seems to describe you quite well

RuffnReadyOzStyle

07-09-2009, 09:05 AM

BTW, there is some really funny shit in this thread, very droll.

Kudos to all! :toast

Silky Johnson

07-09-2009, 09:15 AM

Lord have mercy! What can I say about the Rockets that hasn't already been said about Afghanistan? They look bombed out and depleted.

djohn2oo8

07-09-2009, 11:08 AM

Lord have mercy! What can I say about the Rockets that hasn't already been said about Afghanistan? They look bombed out and depleted.

Knicks fans have absolutely NO room to talk about anybody

Reeko_Htown

07-09-2009, 12:17 PM

Lord have mercy! What can I say about the Rockets that hasn't already been said about Afghanistan? They look bombed out and depleted.

How many Bombed seasons you guys up to now...3, 4

Indazone

07-09-2009, 12:56 PM

Lowry and Wafer are not even average level players.

That is a particularly brilliant hue of pink KillBill :tu

TheMACHINE

07-09-2009, 01:04 PM

So, the Lakers didn't want him back because they preferred Artest? Interesting.

According to Mitch, David Lee was playing hardball and wanted too much...and had to move in for Artest fast when negotiations for Ariza were going nowhere.

Would you prefer an 8.9 ppg and 4.6 rebound over Artest for the same price?

mystargtr34

07-09-2009, 05:18 PM

You cant judge by statistics when two players had different roles on different teams. if you think Artest will average 15 PPG, then for a 40% career FG guy, that will take him about 14 shots when you count in FT and maybe a made 3PTer or two. Who does he take those shots from? Pau Gasol? Kobe Bryant? Odom?

Its all about filling a role, and im not sure whether Artest can do that.

Dex

07-09-2009, 05:23 PM

Nice move by Houston. They sure do pull some aces out of their sleeve sometimes.

[email protected]

07-09-2009, 10:14 PM

now i scared about the nba season.The rockets need to get ther head in the game now.rockets need to stop worry about the other fan team.
ROCKETS,PUT ON YOUR GAME FACE ON COMING OCT/NOV.
:cheer GO ROCKETS :cheer

lil_penny

07-09-2009, 10:20 PM

Great move by the rockets

Roxsfan

07-10-2009, 09:29 PM

Nice move by Houston. They sure do pull some aces out of their sleeve sometimes.

morey:downspin:

Vinnie_Johnson

07-10-2009, 11:38 PM

Can they get another disabled exception for T-mac?

:lmao

The Third Man

07-11-2009, 09:41 PM

The Rockets have played often and well enough without Yao to be able make the transition to a faster paced team. They could pull out an eighth seed, or so, I would imagine. They have some young talent and cap flexibility coming up and Morey and Alexander are smart and committed to building a championship team. As disappointed as I am as a Rockets fan to see the Yao-McGrady duo not pan out, I am almost relieved that the team is forced to look beyond this era. Waiting for the other shoe (cast) to drop on the injury front is horrible for a fan base.