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timvp
07-08-2009, 03:17 PM
Not quite McDyess but I guess it's something.

bigdog
07-08-2009, 03:18 PM
Goodbye Marcus Williams?

Marcus Bryant
07-08-2009, 03:18 PM
Well, good.

FvckMavs
07-08-2009, 03:18 PM
I like the signing.

Marcus Bryant
07-08-2009, 03:19 PM
Goodbye Marcus Williams?

Could be. Williams' contract is a great trade chip.

rayray2k8
07-08-2009, 03:19 PM
yes!
um.. Link?

DBMethos
07-08-2009, 03:19 PM
GODDAMMIT!!!!

Good signing, though.

timvp
07-08-2009, 03:20 PM
Hopefully this means that Hairston has impressed in the practices leading up to summer league.

Can't find a link yet . . .

easy7
07-08-2009, 03:20 PM
Good signing :toast

benefactor
07-08-2009, 03:20 PM
Nice. I think he is going to come in and give us good minutes at the SF/SG spot this year.

BacktoBasics
07-08-2009, 03:21 PM
I love this guy. I really really hope he can stick.

coyotes_geek
07-08-2009, 03:22 PM
One would think it's the generic 2 years, league minimum, with some small guarantee that the Spurs seem to give most of their summer league invites.

Muser
07-08-2009, 03:22 PM
Good, now get Dice.

kbrury
07-08-2009, 03:22 PM
I think he can give good minutes behind Jefferson.

rayray2k8
07-08-2009, 03:22 PM
Just read it on twitter, from the spurs.

GSH
07-08-2009, 03:23 PM
Another unsubstantiated signing rumor, huh? JK... glad to see that Hairston impressed them enough to give him a contract. Did he have to get a note from Chip Engellund?

GooberNuts
07-08-2009, 03:23 PM
He must have definitely impressed the Spurs if they are signing him before the SL, right? I think this hurt's Gist's chances even more. Is Hairston more of a SG or SF?

crc21209
07-08-2009, 03:23 PM
I really liked Hairston last year...he took it to the hole any chance he got. :tu

slick'81
07-08-2009, 03:23 PM
i wasnt too impressed with himlast year but i guess theres always room for improvement

coyotes_geek
07-08-2009, 03:23 PM
I think he can give good minutes behind Jefferson.

He needs to beat out Gist or McClinton first.

scottspurs
07-08-2009, 03:24 PM
I think they will hold onto Williams contract in case they can find a trade, but It looks like Williams will not be a Spur next year. I really like Hairston, I think he is alot tougher than Williams. Great news!

Bruno
07-08-2009, 03:25 PM
Nice signing. :tu

Hairston has no reason to sign a contract before SL if this contract hasn't a significant part guaranteed.
And if Hairston contract is significantly guaranteed, he has a very good chance to make the team after the training camp.

nkdlunch
07-08-2009, 03:25 PM
trading chips?

kbrury
07-08-2009, 03:25 PM
He needs to beat out Gist or McClinton first.
McClinton is more of a SG, and I think Hairston is the front runner because he gave some good minutes during the season.

bigdog
07-08-2009, 03:26 PM
i wasnt too impressed with himlast year but i guess theres always room for improvement

He played pretty damn good defense on LeBron. I was pretty impressed with him. He still needs to improve his perimeter game a bit, though.

completely deck
07-08-2009, 03:26 PM
Not quite the story we were looking for.....keep going..

timvp
07-08-2009, 03:27 PM
From what I've seen, Hairston looks like he lost another ten pounds from the end of last season. Hopefully that makes him even better on the defensive end.

Obstructed_View
07-08-2009, 03:28 PM
:elephant

dougp
07-08-2009, 03:30 PM
Good, now they need to dump Williams.

I'm just glad he didn't go to another team.

Brazil
07-08-2009, 03:31 PM
I wasn't very impressed too, his shoot was quite awful but we will see he has surely a good potential

Brazil
07-08-2009, 03:33 PM
I was thinking it's a spurs FO good move to announce this signing: fans have something to talk about other than Dice. lol

Obstructed_View
07-08-2009, 03:34 PM
I wasn't very impressed too, his shoot was quite awful but we will see he has surely a good potential

Why does this myth persist?

Darkwaters
07-08-2009, 03:35 PM
Hairston is the best wing they have in the in-again out-again Austin rotunda. He'll probably spend more time with the Toros again this year, but will hopefully get some time at the big club regardless.

xtremesteven33
07-08-2009, 03:35 PM
:tu

I like this guy. Hes a good long 3 that would be a good backup for Jefferson...

Goodbye Finley???

duncan228
07-08-2009, 03:35 PM
McDonald.


3:10 UPDATE: The Spurs just announced the signing via news release.

In an separate release, the Spurs also announced the signing of swingman Malik Hairston, who spent some time with the team last season in between trips to Austin. Hairston's deal is believed to be only partially guaranteed, an incentive to get him to commit to the Spurs for training camp in the fall.

http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/courtside/

coyotes_geek
07-08-2009, 03:35 PM
McClinton is more of a SG, and I think Hairston is the front runner because he gave some good minutes during the season.

It's not so much about position as it is about roster spots. Haslip, McDyess (fingers crossed) and Blair put the Spurs at 12. I don't see Gist, Hairston and McClinton all three making the team.

ChumpDumper
07-08-2009, 03:35 PM
Why would it necessarily be goodbye anyone?

EricB
07-08-2009, 03:36 PM
Hairston will make the team out of training camp. Book it.

Obstructed_View
07-08-2009, 03:37 PM
Why would it necessarily be goodbye anyone?

Exactly. They were going to have to sign him in order for him to play in the summer league.

bigdog
07-08-2009, 03:37 PM
Why would it necessarily be goodbye anyone?

Because Marcus Williams isn't even on the Summer League roster and Malik is. Not to mention, Malik signed a contract even before Summer League started, which is unusual, so things don't look good for Williams.

loveforthegame
07-08-2009, 03:37 PM
Nice move. :tu

angelbelow
07-08-2009, 03:37 PM
nice

Ditty
07-08-2009, 03:38 PM
i love hairston

if he works on his 3 point shot

he can be our ariza book it

timvp
07-08-2009, 03:38 PM
McDonald.



http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/courtside/

I wonder how much of that is guaranteed. My guess would be $200K to $300K.

duncan228
07-08-2009, 03:40 PM
Because Marcus Williams isn't even on the Summer League roster and Malik is. Not to mention, Malik signed a contract even before Summer League started, which is unusual, so things don't look good for Williams.

For what it's worth, Williams is injured.

Williams nursing wrist injury (http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/courtside/2009/07/williams-nursin.html)
By Jeff McDonald

There seemed to be a peculiar omission when the Spurs released their summer league roster earlier today.

No Marcus Williams.

Turns out, there is a good reason for Williams' absence. He is injured.

Williams, who finished the season with the Spurs and is expected to join them in training camp this fall, suffered a minor injury to his left wrist during offseason workouts. He should be fine by October.

ChumpDumper
07-08-2009, 03:41 PM
Because Marcus Williams isn't even on the Summer League roster and Malik is. Not to mention, Malik signed a contract even before Summer League started, which is unusual, so things don't look good for Williams.Williams is injured.

Obstructed_View
07-08-2009, 03:41 PM
He isn't 6'9" and long like Ariza though...

He's not 6'9" but he's pretty damn long and he's a sneaky jumper. Just ask Tayshaun Prince about it.

coyotes_geek
07-08-2009, 03:41 PM
I wonder how much of that is guaranteed. My guess would be $200K to $300K.

You really think that much? Didn't Salim Stoudamire get a $200k guarantee last year? He had a better NBA resume than Malik does right now.

slick'81
07-08-2009, 03:43 PM
the spurs choose d williams over hairiston to finish the year last season now williams is hurt and hairiston is back.

Im not gonna sit here and say the kid is a cant miss,he does have some skills lest c how he continues to develop before we call him trevor ariza

SpursFan8179
07-08-2009, 03:46 PM
So, let's go thru the most likely roster scenario before the first game of the season.

1. Duncan
2. Bonner
3. RJ
4. Manu
5. TP
6. Haislip
7. Mason Jr.
8. Hill
9. Finley
10. McDyess(Maybe-Not Official Yet)
11. Hairston
12. Blair

So I guess, McClinton and Willaims go back to the D league right?

Obstructed_View
07-08-2009, 03:46 PM
the spurs choose d williams over hairiston to finish the year last season now williams is hurt and hairiston is back.

Im not gonna sit here and say the kid is a cant miss,he does have some skills lest c how he continues to develop before we call him trevor ariza

The Spurs signed Williams to keep other teams from calling him up. The fact that the Spurs find themselves in summer league with both players is proof that it was the correct decision.

duncan228
07-08-2009, 03:47 PM
Release for both.

Spurs sign former first-rounder Haislip (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=txspursmoves&prov=st&type=lgns)

The San Antonio Spurs have signed former first-round pick Marcus Haislip.

The 6-10 forward spent the past two seasons in Spain after being drafted 13th overall by Milwaukee in 2002. The former Tennessee star also played for Indiana in 2004-05 before going overseas to improve his game.

Haislip could provide needed size and depth to the Spurs frontcourt after San Antonio lost Fabricio Oberto and Kurt Thomas last month in a trade for swingman Richard Jefferson.

Terms of the deal announced Wednesday were not disclosed.

The Spurs also brought back forward Malik Hairston, who played 15 games with the Spurs last season and spent much of the year in the NBA development league.

Ditty
07-08-2009, 03:47 PM
He isn't 6'9" and long like Ariza though...

well i meant like a smaller ariza

he is not comfortable shooting past 20 feet but that just takes a few months with chip england

but hairston might be a better athlete and jumper/rebounder

wow were getting younger and better :toast

lurker23
07-08-2009, 03:49 PM
Exactly. They were going to have to sign him in order for him to play in the summer league.

No contracts are needed for summer league. They would've had to sign him if they wanted him at training camp.

timvp
07-08-2009, 03:49 PM
You really think that much? Didn't Salim Stoudamire get a $200k guarantee last year? He had a better NBA resume than Malik does right now.

It's tough to tell. If Hairston's agent thought other teams are interested (or would be interested during summer league), I think he could have gotten $200K+. If there was no outside interest and Hairston's agent just wanted some sort of injury protection, it would be closer to $40K.

I guess we'll find out eventually.

Ditty
07-08-2009, 03:51 PM
So, let's go thru the most likely roster scenario before the first game of the season.

1. Duncan
2. Bonner
3. RJ
4. Manu
5. TP
6. Haislip
7. Mason Jr.
8. Hill
9. Finley
10. McDyess(Maybe-Not Official Yet)
11. Hairston
12. Blair

So I guess, McClinton and Willaims go back to the D league right?

well probably carry 14 players

you forgot mihinmi who i hope replace bonner and gist who is saying he will be on the spurs next year

finley get replaced by a defensive wing small foward via trade for finley and bonner or we just play small at the 3

then mclinton will be on the IR but will be playing in Austin alot

tomtom
07-08-2009, 03:54 PM
Nice. Expected but nice to see it's official

Obstructed_View
07-08-2009, 03:54 PM
No contracts are needed for summer league. They would've had to sign him if they wanted him at training camp.

Oh, my mistake. Same principle applies, as there seems to be little chance he wasn't going to be at camp.

Obstructed_View
07-08-2009, 03:55 PM
It's tough to tell. If Hairston's agent thought other teams are interested (or would be interested during summer league), I think he could have gotten $200K+. If there was no outside interest and Hairston's agent just wanted some sort of injury protection, it would be closer to $40K.

I guess we'll find out eventually.

You think there was a little extra there as a reward for not going somewhere else?

timvp
07-08-2009, 03:57 PM
You think there was a little extra there as a reward for not going somewhere else?

Maybe. Could have been part of a handshake agreement.

Too bad Ludden isn't around to get contract details. We probably won't figure out how much he got until either they release him or it comes time to guarantee the rest of his contract.

angelbelow
07-08-2009, 03:57 PM
excited to see him during the summer league.

SpursFan8179
07-08-2009, 03:58 PM
So which guys are the odd men out from making the active Spurs roster?

Gist?
Mahimi?
Haislip?
McClinton?
Williams?
Harriston?

Ditty
07-08-2009, 03:59 PM
So which guys are the odd men out from making the active Spurs roster?

Gist?
Mahimi?
Haislip?
McClinton?
Williams?
Harriston?

just williams might be traded if he still has some sort of contract with the spurs

everyone else wil make it just mclinton and gist might spend time in between san antonio and austin

poeticism707
07-08-2009, 04:03 PM
From what I've seen, Hairston looks like he lost another ten pounds from the end of last season. Hopefully that makes him even better on the defensive end.

Nice!:downspin:

He'll be in even better shape, but still bulky enough to guard bigger 3s, like Lerbron!

No doubt he'll continue to work with Chip, so that jumper will continue to improve!

Add that to his VERY AGGRESSIVE drive skills, and we have our new back up 3!

Das Texan
07-08-2009, 04:04 PM
the little bit of hairston i saw last year i liked.


needs to work on a few things, but the foundation seemed to be there. losing some more weight should help him drastically I'd think especially with lateral quickness.

024
07-08-2009, 04:05 PM
good signing. his roster spot isn't guaranteed though, hairston still has to fight for a spot. i like him at the SG position but he can play SF as well. the wing positions on the spurs are practically interchangeable. can be inserted as another solid defender to throw at players and isn't an offensive liability.

DBMethos
07-08-2009, 04:05 PM
So which guys are the odd men out from making the active Spurs roster?

Gist?
Mahimi?
Haislip?
McClinton?
Williams?
Harriston?

If McClinton shoots lights out in SL, I'm pretty sure he'll make the Spurs roster...worked for Tolliver last year...

Darkwaters
07-08-2009, 04:06 PM
So which guys are the odd men out from making the active Spurs roster?

Gist?
Mahimi?
Haislip?
McClinton?
Williams?
Harriston?

Haislip will almost surely be active except in cases of injury or if he re-busts.

I doubt Williams makes the team at all.

Gist, Hairston and McClinton are the most likely of those guys to be inactive. It depends on other roster moves and who comes to play and who needs more work on their game. Mahinmi cannot go to Austin so his chance of being inactive is considerably lower. But he hasn't earned anything on this team yet so who knows?

Parker2112
07-08-2009, 04:08 PM
So, let's go thru the most likely roster scenario before the first game of the season.

1. Duncan
2. Bonner
3. RJ
4. Manu
5. TP
6. Haislip
7. Mason Jr.
8. Hill
9. Finley
10. McDyess(Maybe-Not Official Yet)
11. Hairston
12. Blair

So I guess, McClinton and Willaims go back to the D league right?

I still don't believe that someone from the Bonner/Finley/Mason trio won't be traded.

As for Malik, a big :tu, some of this :downspin:, and a couple of these:rollin.

This guy's shot is not there yet, but he can take it to the whole and finish with authority, and he can alter/contest shots very well. I like his D all around.

But more than that, I like the FO keeping their eye on the ball here... ensuring we don't lose young prospects to other teams during/after summer league. Now please, trade Finley so this guy can see some PT!

coachmac87
07-08-2009, 04:11 PM
Gist, Mahimi, Haislip, McClinton, Williams, Hairston

Can all these guys like rotate or something between Austin and the Spurs??

It would give the team options incase of injuries or etc.

ChumpDumper
07-08-2009, 04:12 PM
I don't think the Spurs will go into the season with only one player with real point guard skills.

kbrury
07-08-2009, 04:15 PM
Haislip is not going to play in Austin he needs to earn his money. Only 2 players can be assigned to the Toros at a time and I Don't think Williams will make the team. I think Gist and McClinton go to Austin while Hairston will be the 12th man hopefully.

Parker2112
07-08-2009, 04:16 PM
I don't think the Spurs will go into the season with only one player with real point guard skills.

Bonner, Fin and Mason for Rondo :eyebrows

timvp
07-08-2009, 04:16 PM
Haislip is not going to play in Austin he needs to earn his money. Only 2 players can be assigned to the Toros at a time and I Don't think Williams will make the team. I think Gist and McClinton go to Austin while Hairston will be the 12th man hopefully.

Haislip and Williams can't go to Austin.

HarlemHeat37
07-08-2009, 04:17 PM
Completely expected..most of us assumed he would be back on the team before the Jefferson move, good to see that he's still on the Spurs radar..

I don't know what was unimpressive about Hairston..his J in the NBA wasn't great, but it wasn't bad either..he played good 1 on 1 defense, even against a couple of the better players in the NBA, including Lebron James..he was very aggressive against whoever was guarding him..he liked to mix it up inside, and he finished strong at the basket..

the best thing about Hairston is that he got better as the year went on..he seems to have a solid work ethic..

Obstructed_View
07-08-2009, 04:17 PM
I don't think the Spurs will go into the season with only one player with real point guard skills.

I agree. The Spurs have a great group of guys that can play multiple positions, but there's no overlap at point. Pop's not going to like that.

oligarchy
07-08-2009, 04:18 PM
Gist, Mahimi, Haislip, McClinton, Williams, Hairston

Can all these guys like rotate or something between Austin and the Spurs??

It would give the team options incase of injuries or etc.

Mahinmi, Williams and Haislip can't.. the others could, but there's not enough roster spots for all those folks. There'd be essentially three spots between Gist, McClinton, Hairston and Williams. Whichever didn't make the team would be free to sign/called up elsewhere if they were with the Toros.

coyotes_geek
07-08-2009, 04:19 PM
I agree. The Spurs have a great group of guys that can play multiple positions, but there's no overlap at point. Pop's not going to like that.

Exactly the reason why I won't be surprised if Jacque Vaughn ends up back here.

objective
07-08-2009, 04:20 PM
I've never thought much of Hairston and his future as an NBA player.

But I'd still rather have him on the team than Finley.

kbrury
07-08-2009, 04:20 PM
Haislip and Williams can't go to Austin.
Yeah I know, Haislip has been in the league already for a few years same with Williams. Just the money that Marcus is getting paid means hes going to have to earn it playing some decent minutes. Hopefully he doesn't re bust.

slick'81
07-08-2009, 04:20 PM
Exactly the reason why I won't be surprised if Jacque Vaughn ends up back here.


jacque vaughn jesus no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:wow atleast give me apg with a jumper

coyotes_geek
07-08-2009, 04:22 PM
jacque vaughn jesus no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:wow atleast give me apg with a jumper

I'm not saying I'm in favor of it, just that I won't be surprised if it happens.

Spurs Brazil
07-08-2009, 04:25 PM
Good sign.

I liked how he played last season

Borosai
07-08-2009, 04:26 PM
Lebron James just stopped licking his chops.

HarlemHeat37
07-08-2009, 04:29 PM
You probably won't find the footage of Hairston's 3 consecutive plays of shutting down Lebron, since word is that Nike stole the footage..

tav1
07-08-2009, 04:30 PM
Because Marcus Williams isn't even on the Summer League roster and Malik is. Not to mention, Malik signed a contract even before Summer League started, which is unusual, so things don't look good for Williams.

Bigdog,

Williams will be in training camp. The Spurs like him. He's just nursing a little offseason wrist injury. That's why he's not in summer league. Don't read so much into his omission from the SL roster.

poeticism707
07-08-2009, 04:30 PM
I still don't believe that someone from the Bonner/Finley/Mason trio won't be traded.

As for Malik, a big :tu, some of this :downspin:, and a couple of these:rollin.

This guy's shot is not there yet, but he can take it to the whole and finish with authority, and he can alter/contest shots very well. I like his D all around.

But more than that, I like the FO keeping their eye on the ball here... ensuring we don't lose young prospects to other teams during/after summer league. Now please, trade Finley so this guy can see some PT!
:rollin:rollin:rollin

Very poetic! And truthful! I agree!:toast

bigdog
07-08-2009, 04:31 PM
Bigdog,

Williams will be in training camp. The Spurs like him. He's just nursing a little offseason wrist injury. That's why he's not in summer league. Don't read so much into his omission from the SL roster.

Ah, ok. I had no idea about the injury. Thanks for the info.

poeticism707
07-08-2009, 04:32 PM
I agree. The Spurs have a great group of guys that can play multiple positions, but there's no overlap at point. Pop's not going to like that.

Got Mason?

coyotes_geek
07-08-2009, 04:33 PM
Got Mason?

Yep. Got memories of how Mason at the point worked out too.

Bartleby
07-08-2009, 04:34 PM
Got Mason?

I sure as hell hope not. The Mason at PG experiment was a total disaster.

slick'81
07-08-2009, 04:34 PM
please no more mention of roger mason jr aka pg

poeticism707
07-08-2009, 04:34 PM
jacque vaughn jesus no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:wow atleast give me apg with a jumper
:lol:lol:lol

I like Vaughn! But unfortunately, some back up point guards give the team a certain edge, either offensively or defensively (Carter of Denver, who gives both).

Vaughn, unfortunately, has neither.

poeticism707
07-08-2009, 04:35 PM
You probably won't find the footage of Hairston's 3 consecutive plays of shutting down Lebron, since word is that Nike stole the footage..
:lol

Obstructed_View
07-08-2009, 04:36 PM
Got Mason?

You mean the only point guard experiment that cost the Spurs two good players at the same time? That's what I'm afraid of. You should be, too.

HarlemHeat37
07-08-2009, 04:37 PM
Just have to hope Hill looks good as a PG in SL..

poeticism707
07-08-2009, 04:39 PM
I sure as hell hope not. The Mason at PG experiment was a total disaster.

The funny thing is, Mason played the point not just solidly, but above average in Washington as a scoring PG. He torched the Cavs in the playoffs from the PG position as well.

My point is he I think with more time he could do MUCH BETTER AT THE BACK UP POINT, especially as he is very good shooter of the dribble.

Not that I'm pining for it or anything, but I think on the whole he'd be a lot better than last season.

HarlemHeat37
07-08-2009, 04:41 PM
It wasn't just the fact that Mason was playing PG though..every play that we ran with him as PG was a pick and roll at the top, it got very predictable..

slick'81
07-08-2009, 04:44 PM
maosn cant handle the rock.hes a pick and pop player not a guy thats should be running an offense

Ed Helicopter Jones
07-08-2009, 04:44 PM
The Spurs are going to do a multi-player trade here soon.

Libri
07-08-2009, 04:44 PM
The more young players you have competing for roster spots, the better.

Ditty
07-08-2009, 04:44 PM
i have a strange feeling hill has gotten better at PG over the summer he was supposed to go that mike bibby camp or whatever

hell be a great back up this year

Parker2112
07-08-2009, 04:49 PM
I for one hope that the added depth (RJ, Dice?!?!) will ease Pop's nerves when it comes to playing irst and second year players. I hate seeing guys like Arron Brooks have breakout years on other teams and knowing that Pop would never give them a shot to play in front of guys like Finley and Vaughn.

JustinJDW
07-08-2009, 04:50 PM
Cool, I am happy with the sign. I am just wondering, who is getting the roster spot? Hairston or McClinton? Hairston can be our backup SF after Finely's last year, but I like McClinton as well.

And what about Haislip and Mahinmi? Are they getting roster spots as well? I can see Mahinmi getting a spot as the Back-up Center behind Bonner, but how will Haislip possibly fit in. With Blair and McDyess coming in, what will happen. I would hate to see Blair's development delayed.

coyotes_geek
07-08-2009, 04:52 PM
i have a strange feeling hill has gotten better at PG over the summer he was supposed to go that mike bibby camp or whatever

hell be a great back up this year

Hill stepping up as the backup PG would make this team immensely better. His defense demands that he get court time, it would make life so much easier if he could get that time at PG and free up minutes for guys like Mason and McClinton.

Obstructed_View
07-08-2009, 04:53 PM
The funny thing is, Mason played the point not just solidly, but above average in Washington as a scoring PG. He torched the Cavs in the playoffs from the PG position as well.
What Mason did against the Cavs was shoot off the dribble. We know he can do that. He played point guard better than the guy he was filling in for, but that guy was Gilbert Arenas. Is it hard to be a better passer than Arenas? It also helps when nobody has any film on you at all, and when you're playing a team with terrible guards.

MaNu4Tres
07-08-2009, 04:56 PM
George Hill will get the minutes at back up point. We don't need to waste a roster spot for a 3rd string point guard like Vaughn. Especially if Gist/ McClinton show promise in the SL.

About Hairston, for the Spurs to go out of their way to sign Hairston today makes you believe Spurs are higher on him than Gist/ McClinton or any other wings in FA that would be available on the cheap.

It will be very interesting to see where all of our prospects end up once Training Camp is over with. Whether it be on the inactive roster/ Austin/ Overseas/ or on the Spurs' active roster.

poeticism707
07-08-2009, 04:58 PM
What Mason did against the Cavs was shoot off the dribble. We know he can do that. He played point guard better than the guy he was filling in for, but that guy was Gilbert Arenas. Is it hard to be a better passer than Arenas? It also helps when nobody has any film on you at all, and when you're playing a team with terrible guards.

Very solid points. But that still doesn't change Mason's performance at the backup pg with Washington, which, if it happened for a full season, instead of just half of the season AND the playoffs, he would have been a borderline All-Star.

I actually think the main difference is that Mason will NEVER have the green light he had in Washington minus Arenas. As such, he's was much more selective about his shots with the Spurs, hence not as productive.

oligarchy
07-08-2009, 05:00 PM
Cool, I am happy with the sign. I am just wondering, who is getting the roster spot? Hairston or McClinton? Hairston can be our backup SF after Finely's last year, but I like McClinton as well.

And what about Haislip and Mahinmi? Are they getting roster spots as well? I can see Mahinmi getting a spot as the Back-up Center behind Bonner, but how will Haislip possibly fit in. With Blair and McDyess coming in, what will happen. I would hate to see Blair's development delayed.

Mahinmi is fully guaranteed and will be here, unless he is unexpectedly traded. Haislip most likely is fully guaranteed, so expect to see him.

Hairston on the other hand is most likely not fully guaranteed and will still be fighting for a roster spot along with McClinton, Williams and Gist (not for the same positions, obviously). Williams is already under contract, but it's completely unguaranteed for this season. He is trade fodder or can be cut for nothing. Hairston probably has a low guarantee that wouldn't be a problem to cut.

We'll see how it shakes out in the next few weeks for those guys.

Duncan, Mahinmi, Bonner, Haislip and MLE (whoever that maybe -- Dice please) are the only bigs. So, Blair and possibly Gist would round the normal 6 bigs the Spurs carry. Bonner could ride the bench, which most would hope for.

MaNu4Tres
07-08-2009, 05:15 PM
Can anyone answer me this?

Whats this obsession with the point guard label on a player?

A point guard is a player who creates for others with his ball-handling ability. Correct?

So what does that make Manu when he has the ball on all pick and roll opportunities when he comes off the bench?

What does that make LeBron in Cleveland when hes setting up Mo Williams and Delonte West in the corners for 3?

What does that make Kobe Bryant in Los Angelos?

My point being is it gets annoying hearing how "Spurs need a TRUE back up pg. Hill isn't the answer. "

Spurs have 3 players that can create off the dribble now Tony, Manu, RJ.

Spurs just need George Hill to play gritty defense and bring the ball up the court to set up the offense for Manu/ RJ/ Tim to create shots for others. And then when warranted, hit the open shot or create off the dribble after one of the big 4 creates initially.

Bruno
07-08-2009, 05:16 PM
McDonald said that Vaughn likely won't be back.

Kindergarten Cop
07-08-2009, 05:18 PM
McDonald said that Vaughn likely won't be back.

I'm thinking that he comes back - not as a player but as a coach in some capacity. I highly doubt he finds a spot on any team's roster as a player.

spursdotcom
07-08-2009, 05:23 PM
http://www.nba.com/spurs/news/090708_hairston.html

:toast

50 cent
07-08-2009, 05:48 PM
Tony/Hill
Mason/Manu/McClinton
Jefferson/Finley/Hairston
Duncan/Bonner/Haislip
Dice/Manhimi/Blair

Williams is gone in a trade or cut. Gist either doesn't make it or plays in Austin.

I also think their's a chance we trade Manhinmi. I'm not sold that he is ever going to pan out.

pad300
07-08-2009, 06:09 PM
Tony/Hill
Mason/Manu/McClinton
Jefferson/Finley/Hairston
Duncan/Bonner/Haislip
Dice/Manhimi/Blair

Williams is gone in a trade or cut. Gist either doesn't make it or plays in Austin.

I also think their's a chance we trade Manhinmi. I'm not sold that he is ever going to pan out.

I'd bet that Bonner and Finley are definitely on the trade bait list, and will be treated as 3ed options at their positions.

The Truth #6
07-08-2009, 06:14 PM
I like the Bonner/Finely trade combo, but what can we expect to get back? We don't really need players. I'm curious what people think.

SenorSpur
07-08-2009, 06:17 PM
McDonald said that Vaughn likely won't be back.

I assumed that was a given.

mattyc
07-08-2009, 06:19 PM
Happy with that. He is a good kid that has obviously been working hard on his game and deserves another shot.

Knoxxx
07-08-2009, 06:21 PM
The thing I don't see why anyone would want Finley and Bonner for anything we would want back. So essentially I am agreeing with the post a few above.

Yeah, Vaughn is way gone, no way there is room on the upgraded roster.

SenorSpur
07-08-2009, 06:32 PM
Tony/Hill
Mason/Manu/McClinton
Jefferson/Finley/Hairston
Duncan/Bonner/Haislip
Dice/Manhimi/Blair

Williams is gone in a trade or cut.

I wouldn't count on that. Spurs seem to like him. He can play the SF position. Hairston is probably more SG than SF - IMO.

Obstructed_View
07-08-2009, 08:18 PM
Very solid points. But that still doesn't change Mason's performance at the backup pg with Washington, which, if it happened for a full season, instead of just half of the season AND the playoffs, he would have been a borderline All-Star.

I actually think the main difference is that Mason will NEVER have the green light he had in Washington minus Arenas. As such, he's was much more selective about his shots with the Spurs, hence not as productive.

It's possible, but as I said, Mason did what he did in a playoff series because nobody was keying on him, and he's great in the two man game. Unfortunately, the Spurs are more than a two man team, and require more from the point guard position than Mason produced in Washington.

And I'd submit to you that Mason will never have a green light like he does with Popovich. He's too easy to trap if there's nobody else to bring up the ball, and he's no longer a weapon at that point.

timtonymanu
07-08-2009, 08:24 PM
Great news! Now he can play with a player from his favorite team.

Nathan Explosion
07-08-2009, 08:35 PM
If Hairston is to make this team, he needs to develop a consistent jumper. Hill the same, although Hill should see playing time as the backup to Parker. I think his defense and play early on in the season was all that we needed to see to know that Hill was a good pick for the Spurs and needs to see playing time.

If Hairston gets a consistent jumper, he'd make a good backup SF for the simple fact that he can get to the rim and finish as well as defend. The jumper will make people pay for playing off of him. As for Gist, without a trade I don't see him making the squad. And if he's to compete for the SF position, then it might come down to Gist v Hairston.

I don't see how there are enough roster spots for everyone to make the squad, especially on the active game day roster.

urunobili
07-08-2009, 09:00 PM
Hairston is basically taking Udoka's role with the team. I have always liked his game and I'm proud of the Spurs for rewarding his effort, fidelity and professionalism.

RuffnReadyOzStyle
07-08-2009, 09:01 PM
Good stuff. They are going to train him to be our stopper. I hope he learns quickly.

spurs opsman
07-08-2009, 09:05 PM
Seriously just rounding out roster folks ,does anyone really think he is a difference maker?

urunobili
07-08-2009, 09:11 PM
My dream Roster

1. Duncan
2. Bonner
3. RJ
4. Manu
5. TP
6. Haislip
7. Mason Jr.
8. Hill
9. Finley
10. McDyess
11. Hairston (D-League Eligible)
12. Blair (D-League Eligible)
13. Mahimni
14. Mc.Clinton (D-League Eligible)
15. Gist (D-League Eligible)

Obstructed_View
07-08-2009, 09:15 PM
Seriously just rounding out roster folks ,does anyone really think he is a difference maker?

Role players that contribute make a difference on championship teams. I think he can be a role player that contributes.

Gino2882
07-08-2009, 09:26 PM
Role players that contribute make a difference on championship teams. I think he can be a role player that contributes.

Eh, he is still eligible for Austin I believe. That is probably where he will spend most of his time. I like him as a player though. Decent size, energy, and appears willing to defense up.

Obstructed_View
07-08-2009, 09:28 PM
Eh, he is still eligible for Austin I believe. That is probably where he will spend most of his time. I like him as a player though. Decent size, energy, and appears willing to defense up.

Probably, but he's had a year around the system. He's got as good a chance this year as any other. The Spurs can only send two people to Austin.

FvckMavs
07-08-2009, 09:32 PM
My dream Roster

1. Duncan
2. Bonner
3. RJ
4. Manu
5. TP
6. Haislip
7. Mason Jr.
8. Hill
9. Finley
10. McDyess
11. Hairston (D-League Eligible)
12. Blair (D-League Eligible)
13. Mahimni
14. Mc.Clinton (D-League Eligible)
15. Gist (D-League Eligible)

I would be happier if we bring back Bruce and trade Finley and Bonner for another big, such as Collison or Foster.

urunobili
07-08-2009, 09:33 PM
Probably, but he's had a year around the system. He's got as good a chance this year as any other. The Spurs can only send two people to Austin.

Are you sure they can't have more than two players assigned? So if we have 3 rooks and a soph we can't have all 4 play there?

Obstructed_View
07-08-2009, 09:39 PM
Are you sure they can't have more than two players assigned? So if we have 3 rooks and a soph we can't have all 4 play there?

No I'm not sure, but I thought someone posted that just today and it sounded right.

urunobili
07-08-2009, 09:52 PM
No I'm not sure, but I thought someone posted that just today and it sounded right.

OK... ChumpDumper...

If the Spurs sign 3 rooks and a soph can they all play in Austin?

I believe they definitively can :)

Obstructed_View
07-08-2009, 09:59 PM
OK... ChumpDumper...

If the Spurs sign 3 rooks and a soph can they all play in Austin?

I believe they definitively can :)

Nope. Two is the max.

Ditty
07-08-2009, 10:48 PM
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raspsa
07-08-2009, 10:55 PM
I think there's a lot to like with Hairston. He is one of the few Spurs who would rather drive to the basket than shoot from the perimeter. He'll get his share of points from the FT line but needs to work on his percentage. He's athletic, long, a good leaper and he's agressive.. working with Chip, he should be able to improve his shot and eventually even extend this out to 3-point range.

Its on the defensive end that I look forward to his biggest contributions. He's shown flashes of what he can do to defensively and I think he'll come in useful backing up RJ in guarding the opponent's best perimeter scorer. I think if he can focus in filling in the niche Bruce Bowen used to occupy, then he'll have a long-term place on this team. I'd be happy if he focused 70% of his game on defense and doing the dirty blue-collar work that is so important to a team's success.

MI21
07-08-2009, 11:17 PM
I'm a fan of Hairston. If he makes the regular season team, it can only help training day in and day out against Manu/Jefferson and learning from the veterans the Spurs have.

His game kind of reminds me of Mario Elie... He's built like him a little too. Good news.

Obstructed_View
07-08-2009, 11:17 PM
Hairston shot 44 percent from three point range in the regular season, and 64% in the playoffs. Jack McClinton shot 45 percent from three point range in college from two feet closer to the basket. One is regarded as a terrible outside shooter and the other is regarded as a great shooter.

TimDunkem
07-08-2009, 11:21 PM
Hairston shot 44 percent from three point range in the regular season, and 64% in the playoffs. Jack McClinton shot 45 percent from three point range in college from two feet closer to the basket. One is regarded as a terrible outside shooter and the other is regarded as a great shooter.
That's pretty funny. When you play in the D-League your stats are meaningless apparently.

poeticism707
07-08-2009, 11:25 PM
I think there's a lot to like with Hairston. He is one of the few Spurs who would rather drive to the basket than shoot from the perimeter. He'll get his share of points from the FT line but needs to work on his percentage. He's athletic, long, a good leaper and he's agressive.. working with Chip, he should be able to improve his shot and eventually even extend this out to 3-point range.

Its on the defensive end that I look forward to his biggest contributions. He's shown flashes of what he can do to defensively and I think he'll come in useful backing up RJ in guarding the opponent's best perimeter scorer. I think if he can focus in filling in the niche Bruce Bowen used to occupy, then he'll have a long-term place on this team. I'd be happy if he focused 70% of his game on defense and doing the dirty blue-collar work that is so important to a team's success.

Great points!:toast

With his athleticism, physicality, and improving 3 ball, he has the potential to be a better two way player that Bruce ever was, instead of just a defensive specialist like Bruce.

Spurs Brazil
07-10-2009, 07:04 AM
Happy Hairston: The Spurs renewed their relationship with Malik Hairston on Wednesday, re-signing a player who appeared in 15 Spurs games last season before being waived in April.

The 6-6 swingman signed a make-good contract and will try to earn a roster spot.

“I'm just happy the kept me a part of the family and gave me an opportunity,” he said.



http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/Haislip_hungry_for_second_chance_in_NBA.html

timtonymanu
07-10-2009, 07:08 AM
Im happy Hairston didnt fall to another team. Hope he stays.

urunobili
07-10-2009, 07:33 AM
Hairston > Udoka > Williams

Darkwaters
07-10-2009, 07:45 AM
Malik looked like garbage in summer league last season but really turned it around in camp and subsequent play with the Toros. I really hope he doesn't reprise his old SL game by sucking it up. I'm really gunning for him to make the team and have always hoped he'd eventually have a full-time no-shit spot on the active team.