McDyess to sign with Spurs

[TIMMYD!]

Yeah what is this about a sign and a trade. If the Spurs can haul in someone else that's solid this would have been the perfect offseason.

[fleggy2k2]

Yeah, I think I got it from Manu's FB page. Thought it was pretty random.

:lol

that's awesome. it's like they're seven year olds.

maybe this is manu's way of psychologically telling himself that if he does things young people do, his ankles will inevitably become younger in age.

if that's the case, more power to him.

[timvp]

Dice isn't involved in a sign-and-trade. The only free agent on the market that makes sense in a sign-and-trade to the Spurs is Josh Childress. But I highly doubt that since Childress wants to start.

Most likely BS but I guess we'll give the guy a chance to be proven right . . .

[Summers]

Yes, he does. But you didn't hear it from him, right.

Well, okay, if he's cool with it.

[mattyc]

:downspin:

Outstanding signing, outstanding offseason. Dice is the perfect fit and will be hungry for a ring. The additions of Dice, Blair, Jack, Jefferson are the perfect acquisitions to the squad. This upcoming season is shaping to be extremely exciting.

[AFBlue]

Yeah what is this about a sign and a trade. If the Spurs can haul in someone else that's solid this would have been the perfect offseason.

Some guy claiming to have access to David Robinson's twitter page says DRob dropped a nugget about an impending sign and trade, with no other details.

I wanna know exactly what the tweet said before I believe it.

Having said that, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Spurs worked a sign-and-trade using Fin and Bonner in a two-for-one swap.

[AFBlue]

Dice isn't involved in a sign-and-trade. The only free agent on the market that makes sense in a sign-and-trade to the Spurs is Josh Childress. But I highly doubt that since Childress wants to start.

Most likely BS but I guess we'll give the guy a chance to be proven right . . .

Pretty far-fetched but....Marvin Williams?

[jiggy_55]

Well it would be nice if spurs2007 could at least give us a link :).. or quote whatever "DRob" said..

[rayray2k8]

...
Sign an trade??? :huh
Bonner!!! :wow

:lol

[spursdotcom]

Spurs and McDyess Reach Verbal Agreement
http://www.nba.com/spurs/news/090708_mcdyess.html

:toast

[spurs2007]

Some guy claiming to have access to David Robinson's twitter page says DRob dropped a nugget about an impending sign and trade, with no other details.

I wanna know exactly what the tweet said before I believe it.

Having said that, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Spurs worked a sign-and-trade using Fin and Bonner in a two-for-one swap.

Apologies on the twitter reference, but I am uable to give that info out. DRob prefers to keep anonymous. Admiral Capital Group is where i work. Sorry, can't relinquish any more info at this point.

[ElNono]

Anyways, back to New Jersey... LOL :lol

[sonic21]

75 wins ecstasy!!!

[rascal]

Wow! It has been a great offseason. The Spurs needed to retool the roster and they did it. This is the first year that I have liked what the front office has done in the offseason.

They are targeting impact players who can make a big difference now not the typical role players like the past who were not going to be enough anymore.

[Knoxxx]

I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Spurs worked a sign-and-trade using Fin and Bonner in a two-for-one swap.

Now THAT would be a perfect offseason! Some teams might actually like to have Finley. Bonner contract $3.2 million and expiring not too bad either. We might just want to keep these guys, but would probably be able to upgrade the roster a bit this year without them.

If anyone told me that we would be able to trade away Oberto, Thomas, Bowen, Finley, and Bonner, I would never have believed it!

[rascal]

Maybe a sign and trade for a legitimate 7' player is in the works.

[AFBlue]

Apologies on the twitter reference, but I am uable to give that info out. DRob prefers to keep anonymous. Admiral Capital Group is where i work. Sorry, can't relinquish any more info at this point.

Didn't mean to sound rude...hope you understand the "wait and see" attitude.

[Brazil]

to sign with Spurs
By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports
9 minutes ago

Buzz up! PrintMore From Adrian WojnarowskiBulls land Pargo Jul 8, 2009 Pistons give Kuester three-year contract Jul 8, 2009
Coveted free agent Antonio McDyess(notes) has decided to sign with the San Antonio Spurs, a league source told Yahoo! Sports on Wednesday afternoon.

McDyess, 34, will sign a two-year deal at the mid-level exception for $11.7 million. It is believed there is a partial guarantee on a third season.

McDyess’ decision had come down to the Spurs, Detroit Pistons and Cleveland Cavaliers

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Av4y8IZ2nPKMilgFOh.ITRC8vLYF?slug=aw-mcdyess070809&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

I believed you was going to see a soccer game ? :king


Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssssssssssss ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss ssssssssssssss

I knew it, a good caipirinha to wait was the right thing to do!

[SenorSpur]

Some guy claiming to have access to David Robinson's twitter page says DRob dropped a nugget about an impending sign and trade, with no other details.

I wanna know exactly what the tweet said before I believe it.

Having said that, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Spurs worked a sign-and-trade using Fin and Bonner in a two-for-one swap.

Depending on who they may be targeted, if it's even true at all, that would absolutely be more icing on the cake. The cake tastes pretty good right now. :downspin:

[silk]

Wow, had to write up something


C-McDyess 10th-Matt
PF- Duncan 7th-Blair
SF- Jefferson 9th-Finley
SG-Mason 6th-Manu
PG-Parker 8th- George


sorry lake's fans, we have the better team

[Spursmania]

Some guy claiming to have access to David Robinson's twitter page says DRob dropped a nugget about an impending sign and trade, with no other details.

I wanna know exactly what the tweet said before I believe it.

Having said that, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Spurs worked a sign-and-trade using Fin and Bonner in a two-for-one swap.


One can't help but wish:toast

[AFBlue]

Maybe a sign and trade for a legitimate 7' player is in the works.

Probably more likely a sign-and-trade for a legitimate backup to RJ...if true.

[SenorSpur]

Just found out.

Great player, great person going to a great organization with great people.

Good luck, Dice. And, San Antonio, you're very lucky to have him. And, he's lucky to have a chance to play for a great team, franchise, and fan base.

Sincerely,

this Piston fan.

You're a classy poster, Jamstone.

Cheers to you! :toast

[DPG21920]

Dice isn't involved in a sign-and-trade. The only free agent on the market that makes sense in a sign-and-trade to the Spurs is Josh Childress. But I highly doubt that since Childress wants to start.

Most likely BS but I guess we'll give the guy a chance to be proven right . . .

Would you cry if this happens :lol

[lefty]

ESPN.com : still no news :lol

[spurs2007]

Didn't mean to sound rude...hope you understand the "wait and see" attitude.

No, it's understandable. It's just as bad as me wanted to get more info out of him and me waiting. I am a beloved Spurs fan and up to this point our FO has done a great job thus far.

[AFBlue]

Would you cry if this happens :lol

I would...and would not be ashamed. That's why I'm cautious...don't want to open the flood gates too soon.

Could end up being for Desmond Mason or something. :lol

[mattyc]

:elephant I'm still in a bit of shock. Dice is an unreal fit.

[manufan10]

ESPN.com : still no news :lol

Hidden away on the NBA page:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4314974

SAN ANTONIO -- Antonio McDyess is leaving the Detroit Pistons for the San Antonio Spurs.

The sought-after free agent reached a deal with the Spurs and is expected to sign later this week, team spokesman Cliff Puchalski said Wednesday. Terms of the deal were not disclosed, but the Spurs had their full midlevel exception, worth about $5.6 million this season, to offer McDyess.

The 34-year-old forward averaged 9.6 points and 9.8 rebounds in his 14th NBA season last year.

It is the second big offseason pickup for the Spurs, who acquired swingman Richard Jefferson from Milwaukee last month in a four-player deal.

[rascal]

Wow, had to write up something


C-McDyess 10th-Matt
PF- Duncan 7th-Blair
SF- Jefferson 9th-Finley
SG-Mason 6th-Manu
PG-Parker 8th- George


sorry lake's fans, we have the better team

Its too early to claim who has the better team. But the spurs at least now will have a chance against the Lakers.

[GooberNuts]

ESPN.com : still no news :lol

This is to be expected. Pretty sad...

[DPG21920]

No, it's understandable. It's just as bad as me wanted to get more info out of him and me waiting. I am a beloved Spurs fan and up to this point our FO has done a great job thus far.

Can you say when this happens? Or did I miss that?

[AFBlue]

No, it's understandable. It's just as bad as me wanted to get more info out of him and me waiting. I am a beloved Spurs fan and up to this point our FO has done a great job thus far.

Oh yeah. Hell, if they called it quits now I think the Spurs would have the top-rated offseason by a mile.

[Brazil]

Will be curious to hear if the spurs are now done or they will now explore trades.

the best thing now is that I really don't care, it will be only bonus if happens but right now w/o doing nothing more we are contender !

[spurs2007]

Would you cry if this happens :lol

Just for the record McDyess is staying!!! Not involved in sign-n-trade. Now it's just a trade I hear. Just a trade, not a sign-n-trade.

[scottspurs]

ESPN Ford is pretty much going to crown the Spurs champs I think.



1. San Antonio Spurs
Key additions: Richard Jefferson, DeJuan Blair, Antonio McDyess

Key subtractions: Bruce Bowen, Fabricio Oberto, Kurt Thomas

In limbo: Drew Gooden (U), Ime Udoka (U), Jacque Vaughn (U)

The Spurs always seem to find a way to turn a little into a lot. They turned three aging players past their primes into Richard Jefferson -- an athletic forward at the peak of his game. They added Antonio McDyess to play the 4. McDyess is getting older, but is still very productive and a model citizen on and off the court.

And even without a first-round pick in this year's draft, they were still able to come away with some terrific players in the second round. Specifically, Pittsburgh's DeJuan Blair, who was the best rebounder in college basketball and is a beast in the paint. If his knees stay sturdy, he'll go down as the steal of the draft. Overall, the Spurs have dramatically improved their team and are, once again, serious contenders for an NBA title.

[manufan10]

A comment from the ESPN report, from another Detroit fan:


cookie2711 (7/8/2009 at 6:24 PM)
As a Detroiter and die-hard Pistons fan, congrats Spurs.
He is the hardest working most class act player you could hope for who goes 100% off the bench for 10 and 10 25-30 min a night.
Do me a favor, get him the championship we couldn't because the whole city felt bad for him in 2005 when you bastards beat us.


Seems like Pistons fans were very fond of McDyess. Glad he's on our side now.

[Big P]

Wow, had to write up something


C-McDyess 10th-Matt
PF- Duncan 7th-Blair
SF- Jefferson 9th-Finley
SG-Mason 6th-Manu
PG-Parker 8th- George


sorry lake's fans, we have the better team

Where's Mahinmi?

[SenorSpur]

Hope Sheed doesn't take this ass-whupping personally.

[BlackBellamy]

Where's Mahinmi?

He's on the injured list even in hypothetical line-ups.

[DPG21920]

Just for the record McDyess is staying!!! Not involved in sign-n-trade. Now it's just a trade I hear. Just a trade, not a sign-n-trade.

LOL, I know. I never thought you meant Dice would be S&T'd. I thought you meant another FA would be signed then traded to the Spurs.

[angelbelow]

wow.. im at the library but had a hard time concentrating because of the mcdyess buzz... and now that i caved in to check the news im glad to see that hes going to sign with us. great offseason so far!!

[manufan10]

yaktown1 (7/8/2009 at 6:37 PM)
As a Pistons fan I am sad to see McDizzle go but he deserved better than last season. If only the other vets and "leaders" of the Pistons would have played as hard as Dyess.

The Spurs are getting a good vet... age is overrated. Dyess won't be asked to lead the Spurs to a championship just hit open jumpers rebound and play defense. Pretty basic. Good pick up Spurs.

[manufan10]

YSHIN15 (7/8/2009 at 6:47 PM) Report Violation
Congrats Dyess! I'm also a diehard Pistons fan, and out of everyone one on that horrible team last year, I felt worse for my boy Dyess. Go get that ring big man, and you'll always be a Piston in my eyes.

[Kent_in_Atlanta]

To bad this deal won't get you past the Dallas Mavericks! :smokin

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

[Flux451]

Everybody! Grab your jerrycurl and let your soul GLO!!!

[Pucho!!!]

DOes anyone know if Blair and McClinton have been signed to contracts already?

[ElNono]

Manu Ginobili
Welcome Antonio McDyess to the Spurs! Great acquisition, too! Great player, experienced and a really solid presence in the paint. He can really help. The Spurs are taking their final shape for the season. There we go! Can't wait!

LINK (http://fbpage.com/manuginobili)

[barbacoataco]

The way I see the C/PF situation -
Duncan, Bonner, Mahinmi, McDyess, Blair and Haislip-
one of those guys won't make it onto the active 12 man roster. Spurs usually have 5 bigs active. Question--- who is the odd man out?

[Death In June]

Awesome. Glad we have a few pieces left for the trading block too. Backup SF or C for Bonner/Finely/?.

[Ace9]

http://i26.tinypic.com/30uemgp.png

[anakha]

*Looks down*

Damn, that's a lot of guests viewing.

[ducks]

dice and duncan to teach ian

[AFBlue]

The way I see the C/PF situation -
Duncan, Bonner, Mahinmi, McDyess, Blair and Haislip-
one of those guys won't make it onto the active 12 man roster. Spurs usually have 5 bigs active. Question--- who is the odd man out?

Too early to say...that frontline could still change and as much as RC expects Blair to be a 20mpg guy right out of the gate, he'll have to prove he's ready to Pop.

All things equal, the odd man out is youngest one with the least experience. But we'll see if that stays as is.

[angelbelow]

pretty exciting news.

[Blackjack]

Nice.:tu

Not quite as nice as the Hairston signing, but nice.:smokin

[rayray2k8]

Bonner.. is the odd man out.. :|

[Dice]

I've followed McDyess his whole career and this may be the best thing that's ever happened to him.

Really looking forward to getting my NBA league pass and watching the Spurs this season now.

I've watched McDyess play in every game he's participated in for the last 4 seasons so I could go on and on about what type of player you guys are getting and how much he's going to bring to the court but I'll save it.

[bdictjames]

Amazing. I'm ready for the next season!

[Obstructed_View]

Since I've been playing WoW the last hour or so, all I have to say is W00t.

[timvp]

I've followed McDyess his whole career and this may be the best thing that's ever happened to him.

Really looking forward to getting my NBA league pass and watching the Spurs this season now.

I've watched McDyess play in every game he's participated in for the last 4 seasons so I could go on and on about what type of player you guys are getting and how much he's going to bring to the court but I'll save it.

:tu

Stick around. You will find a lot of fellow Pistons fans on the site.

[AFBlue]

I've followed McDyess his whole career and this may be the best thing that's ever happened to him.

Really looking forward to getting my NBA league pass and watching the Spurs this season now.

I've watched McDyess play in every game he's participated in for the last 4 seasons so I could go on and on about what type of player you guys are getting and how much he's going to bring to the court but I'll save it.

:tu

[ElNono]

I've followed McDyess his whole career and this may be the best thing that's ever happened to him.

Really looking forward to getting my NBA league pass and watching the Spurs this season now.

I've watched McDyess play in every game he's participated in for the last 4 seasons so I could go on and on about what type of player you guys are getting and how much he's going to bring to the court but I'll save it.

Welcome. If there's anything in common among the Pistons fans here is class.

[angelbelow]

i think haislip or bonner is the odd man out. whoever can make their 3s will probably stand. this is assuming that ian can provide us with pure hustle and energy. if he cant than hes out forsure.

[FilSpursFan]

..now... now... if Bruce would be here... (sniff...!)

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

i think haislip or bonner is the odd man out. whoever can make their 3s will probably stand. this is assuming that ian can provide us with pure hustle and energy. if he cant than hes out forsure.

We just signed Haislip to the LLE (1.9 million). He won't be the odd man out.

[mytespurs]

ESPN Ford is pretty much going to crown the Spurs champs I think.



1. San Antonio Spurs
Key additions: Richard Jefferson, DeJuan Blair, Antonio McDyess

Key subtractions: Bruce Bowen, Fabricio Oberto, Kurt Thomas

In limbo: Drew Gooden (U), Ime Udoka (U), Jacque Vaughn (U)

The Spurs always seem to find a way to turn a little into a lot. They turned three aging players past their primes into Richard Jefferson -- an athletic forward at the peak of his game. They added Antonio McDyess to play the 4. McDyess is getting older, but is still very productive and a model citizen on and off the court.

And even without a first-round pick in this year's draft, they were still able to come away with some terrific players in the second round. Specifically, Pittsburgh's DeJuan Blair, who was the best rebounder in college basketball and is a beast in the paint. If his knees stay sturdy, he'll go down as the steal of the draft. Overall, the Spurs have dramatically improved their team and are, once again, serious contenders for an NBA title.

Well, Chris Mannix on SI crowned the Spurs after they signed Jefferson...that is until the lakers signed artest then he flipped flopped.

This is a good signing for our team but i'm not ready to crown us champs....i'll just leave it as it is. :)

[weebo]

Great news! This offseason more than makes up for last year's shitty injury plagued season!

[angelbelow]

now i cant wait for the summer league. cant wait to see geogre, james, dejuan, ian, malik in action.

[urunobili]

Parker/Ginobili/Jefferson/McDyess/Duncan. :hungry:

:drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool:

[DAF86]

Is that trade everybody is talking about: Gadzuric for Bonner and Finley? 'cause my dad said he heard that. I hope it is not true we already have enough bigmen.

[crc21209]

now i cant wait for the summer league. cant wait to see geogre, james, dejuan, ian, malik in action.

Hell yeah. We have A LOT of young talented players here now who may be able to make an impact on the team this upcoming season.

Hill, Mahinmi, Blair, Gist, Haislip, Hairston, and McClinton. WOW. :wow

[Heath Ledger]

Wow great pick up fo you guys. If last season is any indication this guy still has a lot left in the tank and you know he has the heart of a champion. I desparately want to see him get a ring, the Spurs are looking like a potential threat in the west. I like it.

[completely deck]

..now... now... if Bruce would be here... (sniff...!)

get over it

[45 bank shot]

Hey, can someone please make a photo of the starting five lineup for the spurs including Timmy, tony, manu, RJ and Dice?

[Bruno]

I can definitively see Spurs doing another trade this summer.
Saying that, the current roster is really good and if Spurs call it an offseason, I'm damn fine with it.

[Kriz-Maxima]

A comment from the ESPN report, from another Detroit fan:




Seems like Pistons fans were very fond of McDyess. Glad he's on our side now.

I got nothing but love for Dice. He is a very smart player who works very hard every game. Even when everything seems lost he is still working. Even at his age he brings great hustle and often makes those little plays that make the difference when getting a win. This is the team he deserved, a classy organization with a real chance at a championship.

I'll be rooting for the Spurs to get the championship.

[SonOfAGun]

Welcome aboard sir.

[FvckMavs]

"Win it for Dice!"

[Blackjack]

I can definitively see Spurs doing another trade this summer.
Saying that, the current roster is really good and if Spurs call it an offseason, I'm damn fine with it.

Agree.:tu

But, I really feel they've got another move, it just might not be until the deadline. (Unless, Splitter?:smokin :downspin:)

[45 bank shot]

Agree.:tu

But, I really feel they've got another move, it just might not be until the deadline. (Unless, Splitter?:smokin :downspin:)

but with whom?

[Sii]

anyone heard from Ghost Writer? pretty much had a premature shower rod hanging a week or two ago :lol

[1Parker1]

Someone needs to thank the Dallas Mavericks. If they hadn't bounced the Spurs so badly in the first round this season, Spurs front office perhaps wouldn't have felt such a push to make something happen.

[ducks]

Someone needs to thank the Dallas Mavericks. If they hadn't bounced the Spurs so badly in the first round this season, Spurs front office perhaps wouldn't have felt such a push to make something happen.

I think tp had seen enough
he was wanting things done
2 years in a row one of their major pieces hurt in playoffs
atleast if one of them is hurt spurs now have jefferson who should be able to help

[cloudyhill]

a lot of Spurs fans from china !!!wow

[Slydragon]

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/funny-pictures-dancing-cat.jpg

[duncan228]

The national view.

Free agent McDyess chooses Spurs (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-spurs-mcdyess&prov=ap&type=lgns)
By Paul J. Weber

The San Antonio Spurs landed free agent Antonio McDyess on Wednesday in another big offseason pickup for the aging NBA power that apparently isn’t ready to fade away just yet.

McDyess, who despite being 34 was among the most sought players on the market this summer, reached a deal with the Spurs and is expected to sign later this week, team spokesman Cliff Puchalski said.

Terms of the deal were not disclosed, but the Spurs had their full midlevel exception, worth about $5.85 million this season, to offer the 6-foot-9 forward. McDyess spent the last five seasons with Detroit, which also officially lost Rasheed Wallace on Wednesday when the veteran signed with Boston.

The Spurs reportedly sought Wallace, too, but got what they were looking for in McDyess: a big and proven frontcourt presence alongside Tim Duncan. The Spurs have won four NBA championships in the Duncan era, but their star centerpiece will be 33 come next year’s playoffs.

With their window for a fifth title shrinking, the Spurs began a busy offseason in June by trading for Milwaukee swingman Richard Jefferson in a four-player deal that pushed San Antonio into the luxury tax.

Between Jefferson and McDyess, the Spurs have added two former Olympians to their lineup after being ousted in the first round of the playoffs last season for the first time since 2000. Following that series, the Spurs candidly admitted to not packing the same firepower as Dallas.

McDyess averaged 9.6 points and 9.8 rebounds in his 14th NBA season. His rebounding average last season was the third highest of his career.

The second overall pick in the 1995 draft, McDyess spent six seasons in Denver and also had stops in Phoenix and New York. He has never won an NBA title, going to Detroit the year after the Pistons won their last in 2004.

San Antonio also added a lesser-known big man Wednesday in Marcus Haislip, the former first-round pick who spent the past two years in Spain after fizzling in his first three NBA seasons. The 6-10 forward was picked 13th overall by Milwaukee in 2002 before going to Europe to work on his game.

The Spurs also brought back forward Malik Hairston, who played 15 games with the Spurs last season and spent much of the year in the NBA development league.

San Antonio needed size after dealing backups Fabricio Oberto and Kurt Thomas in the Jefferson trade. The deal amounted to a salary dump for the Bucks, who wanted to shed the $29.2 million owed Jefferson over the next two seasons.

[1Parker1]

It has to be official...even Ginobili welcomed Dice on Facebook. :lol


Welcome Antonio McDyess to the Spurs! Great acquisition, too! Great player, experienced and a really solid presence in the paint. He can really help. The Spurs are taking their final shape for the season. There we go! Can't wait!

[duncan228]

than has 34-year-old Spurs captain Tim Duncan.


The Spurs have won four NBA championships in the Duncan era, but their star centerpiece will be 33 come next year’s playoffs.

Mistake by both of them. Duncan is 33 now, he'll be 34 during the Playoffs next year (April 25).

[Borosai]

Well, the roster is shaping up at last.

[ManuTP9]

http://i26.tinypic.com/2zp1o43.jpg
:lobt2::lobt2:

[phxspurfan]

I don't know if I would put this up there with the imacculate conception or anything, but it's pretty sweet.

[angelbelow]

Hell yeah. We have A LOT of young talented players here now who may be able to make an impact on the team this upcoming season.

Hill, Mahinmi, Blair, Gist, Haislip, Hairston, and McClinton. WOW. :wow

oh dang i forgot mcclinton. i hope he pans out too, seems like a good kid and the FO loves him.

[DAF86]

Well, the roster is shaping up at last.

In your sig: change Bonner from C to PF, and WTF is Blair?

[Old School 44]

Great job front office! When I first entered the site and saw 900+ viewing, I knew they got it done. BELIEVE!:flag:

[Banzai]

Nice to see Spurs fans happy.

[lefty]

http://i26.tinypic.com/2zp1o43.jpg
:lobt2::lobt2:


Thank you :tu

[lefty]

According to ESPN.com, the Spurs have ceased to exist

But they will to talk about us come June 2010.............

[ManuTP9]

damn, i cant wait for the season to start!

[SKINNYPIMP210]

http://i26.tinypic.com/2zp1o43.jpg
:lobt2::lobt2:

My computer wont let me play this for some reason.....

[lefty]

My computer wont let me play this for some reason.....
Me too :depressed

[DynastyBuilder]

:lol

It's just an image there is no video.

:lmao

[SKINNYPIMP210]

:lol

It's just an image there is no video.

:lmao


Oh, HaHa good one! :toast

[Pistons < Spurs]

Awesome news!!! Congrats to the Spurs. Now get my boy a RING!





:flag::flag::flag:

[duncan228]

Now get my boy a RING!

That's the plan. :toast

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I think people will be very pleasantly surprised when Dice thrives in our system while Sheed shows everyone just how much he has declined... although I'm willing to accept that Sheed might be rejuvinated early in the season by his move to Boston, we'll see the truth of it in January and beyond.

Can I also say, I'm not in the least bit surprised, but I am very pleased nonetheless. :D

[Nick, the Nazi]

His new nickname should be "San Antonio".

[Spursmania]

I've followed McDyess his whole career and this may be the best thing that's ever happened to him.

Really looking forward to getting my NBA league pass and watching the Spurs this season now.

I've watched McDyess play in every game he's participated in for the last 4 seasons so I could go on and on about what type of player you guys are getting and how much he's going to bring to the court but I'll save it.

That's awesome. Welcome aboard. I think you Detroit fans are first class.:toast

[Cherry]

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[Spursmania]

I think people will be very pleasantly surprised when Dice thrives in our system while Sheed shows everyone just how much he has declined... although I'm willing to accept that Sheed might be rejuvinated early in the season by his move to Boston, we'll see the truth of it in January and beyond.

Can I also say, I'm not in the least bit surprised, but I am very pleased nonetheless. :D

Hey Ruff, I know you wanted Dice over Sheed since the beginning. I'm glad we ended up with Dice. :toast

[jdev82]

did anyone else watch that 20 20 game against new york and salivate?

[Silver&Black Warrior]

Originally Posted by DPG21920 http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/Style_Templates/Flashskin/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3344609#post3344609)

This is what I want to happen, but it depends on three things: Will the Spurs scrap the 2010 plan, open up their wallets and go into win now mode in order to maximize Tim's years here?

If they are willing to do all of those things here is what they need to do in my opinion:

1) Really Target Team Needs: What does this team need? A true center that can help Tim patrol the paint along with rebound at a high rate. More than ever it has become evident that Tim can no longer do it on his own. It will go along way to improving the Spurs defense along with giving Tim some rest on that end.

Go for athletic wings that can do this combonation: Defend with some size and speed, hit the 3 efficiently or score efficiently. I would say lean to the scoring. Not all the way, but do not think you can find the Bowen replacement today. If you can get someone who is a solid defender and a better scorer, than it will go a long way to improving the line up.

How do you do this?

1) Buy into the Buyers Market: If people are willing to part with elite talent in order to increase cap space and shed salary, then the Spurs need to buy now. Especially if it is a player that fits a situational and positional need.

This especially makes sense if the player is relatively young and would be just as good as who the Spurs could expect to get in 2010 with the anticipated cap space. The NBA has shown that this is a distinct possibility, and the Spurs need to be ready to pounce. Spurs have 3 guys in Oberto/Mason/Bowen whom they can trade (because they expire in 2010) that will allow for the Spurs to trade for someone who makes 15 million dollars. That can buy you a nice player.

This becomes double effective if you can do so without trading Ginobili. Obviously, out of the big 3, Manu is the most likely to be traded. If you can use some kind of combo of players like I mentioned to get talent, without giving up Gino it would be a major bonus.

3) Use all of the MLE if the Right Player Comes Along: The spurs need to look for forwards and centers. If the Spurs can fulfill one need by trading, they need to use the MLE to target the other needs.

Do not just waste money, but if you have an opportunity to sign someone for a bargain (meaning somewhat of a good player who cannot really command more than the full MLE a la Maggette) then they need to do it.

With the combination of trades and the MLE, the Spurs have some options if they are willing to open up the checkbook. Will they? Probably not to the degree that I outlined, but I hope they try and win now, and worry about the future down the road when we do not have Duncan to appreciate any more.


You called everything exactly!!!!!!!!!!!! Major, Major props for this post!!!!!!!!!!! You must feel on top of the world!!!!!!!!!!!

[tomtom]

hell yes this offseason has been better than the past 4 offseasons combined!

[Capt Bringdown]

According to Yahoo, it's a 3 year, 15 million dollar deal.

If so, I'm very disappointed. He's 35, FFS. I would have rather have had Big Baby, or some other younger player.

Spurs never seem to learn when it comes to signing old players.

[DBMethos]

According to Yahoo, it's a 3 year, 15 million dollar deal.

If so, I'm very disappointed. He's 35, FFS. I would have rather have had Big Baby, or some other younger player.

Spurs never seem to learn when it comes to signing old players.

You have a very appropriate username, you know that? :toast

[benefactor]

According to Yahoo, it's a 3 year, 15 million dollar deal.

If so, I'm very disappointed. He's 35, FFS. I would have rather have had Big Baby, or some other younger player.

Spurs never seem to learn when it comes to signing old players.
http://www.mubos-md.com/ice/gtfo.jpg

[duncan228]

Monroe updated.

Antonio McDyess accepts Spurs' offer (http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/McDyess_accepts_Spurs_offer.html)
Mike Monroe

For the first time since David Robinson retired in 2003, Tim Duncan has another All-Star beside him on the Spurs front line.

Antonio McDyess, a 34-year-old veteran of 14 seasons, agreed Wednesday to terms of a free agent contract that will pair him with Duncan on a Spurs team that has re-emerged after a first-round playoff ouster as the primary Western Conference challenger to the 2009 NBA champion Lakers.

It's been eight years since McDyess played in his one-and-only All-Star Game, but he is coming off a season with the Detroit Pistons in which he nearly averaged a double-double in points and rebounds, still regarded as one of the NBA's most reliable post players.

Spurs general manager R.C Buford confirmed Wednesday afternoon that the Spurs had reached agreement with McDyess. A club spokesperson said McDyess, whose off-season home is in Houston, is expected to sign a Spurs contract by week's end.

Sources close to McDyess said the contract is for three seasons, starting at the full, mid-level exception to the NBA's salary cap restrictions, $5.845 million. The third season is believed to be 50 percent guaranteed.

McDyess averaged 9.6 points and 9.8 rebounds as the starting center for the Pistons last season. Though he will turn 35 on Sept. 7, he has played in 109 fewer games, regular season and playoffs, than has 34-year-old Duncan.

McDyess chose the Spurs over the Pistons, who could not match the money the Spurs offered. The Orlando Magic, who played in the NBA Finals in June, also are believed to have offered him full mid-level money. The Cleveland Cavaliers, who had the NBA's best record last season, also were bidders.

The second pick in the 1995 draft, by the Clippers, McDyess went to the Denver Nuggets in a draft-night deal, and played six of his first seven seasons for them. He averaged 20.8 points and 12.1 rebounds for the Nuggets in 2000-01, representing them in the 2001 All-Star Game.

McDyess also played for the Suns and the Knicks, but he enjoyed his most successful run with the Pistons, an Eastern power that reached the conference finals four times in his five seasons there.

McDyesseHe has career averages of 13.2 points and 7.8 rebounds. He also has played in 84 playoff games, including the seven games of the 2005 NBA Finals, when the Spurs defeated the Pistons. Then, he was a key backup, behind Rasheed Wallace and Ben Wallace, showing his willingness to accept any role for the good of the team.

He was one of the Pistons' most productive playoff performers last season, averaging 13.0 points and 8.5 rebounds in a first-round series against Cleveland.

Fiercely loyal, the decision to join the Spurs was difficult for McDyess. He had returned to the Pistons after Detroit general manager Joe Dumars traded him to the Nuggets in November, part of the blockbuster trade involving Chauncey Billups and Allen Iverson. Since he was in the final season of his contract, the Nuggets negotiated a buyout of the $6.8 million he was owed, and then waived him.

The Spurs were one of many teams that tried to sign him then, but after waiting an NBA-mandated 30 days, he re-signed with the Pistons, mostly out of loyalty to Dumars. It was that loyalty that agonized McDyess on Wednesday.

Ultimately, the Spurs' position as a prime championship contender impacted Wednesday's decision. McDyess considers winning a gold medal at the 2000 Olympic Games in Sydney, Australia, the highlight of his basketball career. Ironically, he was named to the 2000 U.S. team as a replacement for Duncan, who withdrew from the team in mid-August, 2000, because of a knee injury.

Now, he hopes to team with Duncan to achieve the only goal he deems greater than winning Olympic gold: An NBA title.

Additional signings: The Spurs also reached agreement Wednesday with free agent power forward Marcus Haislip, the 13th selection, by Milwaukee, in the 2002 NBA draft, and Malik Hairston, a 6-6 swing man who played 15 games with the Spurs last season.

Haislip, 6-10 and 230 pounds, has played in Turkey and Spain since leaving the NBA in 2005. He spent the last two seasons with Unicaja Malaga in the Spanish ACB League, and in Euroleague competition. In 35 games in Spanish League play he averaged 15.8 points and 5.0 rebounds in an average of 28.0 minutes.

The Spurs acquired Hairston in a swap of second-round picks on draft night in 2008. In 15 games with the Spurs, he averaged 3.3 points and 1.9 rebounds in limited court time. He also appeared in 30 games with the Spurs' Austin Toros NBA D-League team, averaging 22.9 points, 5.5 rebounds and 3.7 assists.

[Capt Bringdown]

Spurs overpaid for old goods. This is not a good deal.

[jdev82]

lol got me there. but it was still impressive

[benefactor]

Spurs overpaid for old goods. This is not a good deal.
You should be pinked.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Hey Ruff, I know you wanted Dice over Sheed since the beginning. I'm glad we ended up with Dice. :toast

Cheers! :toast

Dice will be a perfect fit here. Good stuff. We are true contenders again.

[tlongII]

Nice. You got an arthritic old man to play power forward for you. Good job. :tu

[venitian navigator]

well, now :
1) Williams, Bonner, Mason for Maggette
2) sign Splitter or veterans minimum to a shot blocker (nesterovic/ratliff)
3) sign our 2° ch (Blair - Gist - Mc Clinton)

Parker - Meggette - Jefferson - Mc Dyess - Duncan
Hill - Ginobili - Finley - Blair - x (Splitter - Nesterovic - Ratliff)
Mc Clinton - Hairston - Gist - Haislip - Mahinmi

[Capt Bringdown]

You should be pinked.

How old are you, 12?
Just giving my opinion in a respectful way.
If you don't like it, I suggest putting me on your ignore list.
Thanks

[tp2021]

Nice. You got an arthritic old man to play power forward for you. Good job. :tu

And you have one to play center.

[angelbelow]

Spurs overpaid for old goods. This is not a good deal.

what do you mean? explain yourself.

[angelbelow]

Nice. You got an arthritic old man to play power forward for you. Good job. :tu

as closed minded as always.

[benefactor]

How old are you, 12?
Just giving my opinion in a respectful way.
If you don't like it, I suggest putting me on your ignore list.
Thanks
...and as usual, your opinion is baseless and worthless. But whatever makes you happy, Laker fan.

[beirmeistr]

You know how Shaq claims the his slogan is win a ring for the king?
Well, the Spurs slogan should be Win the prize for the Dice.

[Shastafarian]

And you have one to play center.

bwahahaha OWNAGE

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Spurs overpaid for old goods. This is not a good deal.

Who, exactly, was out there that was a better fit? Dice has been relatively injury-free the last few years, and has fewer miles on his legs than the average 34yo. He also averaged 10/10 last year. MLE for 2 years, and a half-guarunteed 3rd year as a sweetner, is a very reasonable deal.


You should be pinked.

One of the beauties of this place is that people aren't moderated for their opinions.


Nice. You got an arthritic old man to play power forward for you. Good job.

:rolleyes

Keeping up your rep as biggest tool on the board, I see.

Arthritic? But for the trade he would have played all 82 games last year. And he average 10/10. So yeah, I'll take him.

[Capt Bringdown]

what do you mean? explain yourself.

I think 3 years for a old player is too much. I like McDyess, but I don't think he's going to help our problems with faster, younger and more athletic teams.

I think we've had success with older players in spot roles (Kersey, Willis, Kerr), but when we count on them in more extended roles, it never seems to work out.

[tp2021]

If it's the case, it isn't even a full MLE contract. It's likely a contract with a flat structure. ($5.854M for each year)

Wait, so do the Spurs have some of the MLE left?

[Vic Petro]

When's the last time the Spurs signed three guys in one day?

Seriously McDyess is the best possible acquisition for this team. People can talk about Wallace being a better fit or Gortat being younger but there is such a thing as production on the court. If you stripped the last names off the jerseys and watched each FA big man play throughout last season, I can guarantee you that McDyess would be the overwhelming favorite on this board.

[SpursFan0728]

Great news!! I have always wanted Dice over any free agent bigs.

[crc21209]

Nice. You got an arthritic old man to play power forward for you. Good job. :tu

And our "arthritic old man" is still better than your 20 year old who looks like an old man and has already been hurt as much as McDyess almost. :lmao

[benefactor]

I think 3 years for a old player is too much. I like McDyess, but I don't think he's going to help our problems with faster, younger and more athletic teams.

I think we've had success with older players in spot roles (Kersey, Willis, Kerr), but when we count on them in more extended roles, it never seems to work out.
You are just talking out of your ass now. You obviously didn't even watch him last year. Your contract argument would have some validity if we weren't only looking at the next 2 or 3 seasons as our championship window.

[FvckMavs]

I think 3 years for a old player is too much. I like McDyess, but I don't think he's going to help our problems with faster, younger and more athletic teams.

I think we've had success with older players in spot roles (Kersey, Willis, Kerr), but when we count on them in more extended roles, it never seems to work out.

You can become a Thunders fan. They are faster, younger and very athletic.

[benefactor]

According to Yahoo, it's a 3 year, 15 million dollar deal.

If so, I'm very disappointed. He's 35, FFS. I would have rather have had Big Baby, or some other younger player.

Spurs never seem to learn when it comes to signing old players.
And Big Baby was going to help with more athletic teams? Lol...fail.

[lefty]

Nice. You got an arthritic old man to play power forward for you. Good job. :tu
We got Oden?

When ???!!!

[Vic Petro]

Wait, so do the Spurs have some of the MLE left?

If it's 3 years, $15 million flat it will be interesting to see how it is structured.

If I'm understanding what I'm reading, it seems they gave him the full MLE over the first two years then partially guaranteed the third at around 50%. That would necessitate the contract structure being the first two years at $11.69 million total and the third year at around $3.31 million with $1.65 million guaranteed.

[bdubya]

Good pickup, Spurs.

Now you fucking BETTER help Dice win his ring.

[Mavs<Spurs]

You can become a Thunders fan. They are faster, younger and very athletic.

:owned:lmao:lmao

[Admidave50]

that's fuckin' great news, can't wait now for SL and season to start!!

[Kent_in_Atlanta]

I think 3 years for a old player is too much. I like McDyess, but I don't think he's going to help our problems with faster, younger and more athletic teams.

I think we've had success with older players in spot roles (Kersey, Willis, Kerr), but when we count on them in more extended roles, it never seems to work out.

No, he doesn't help us get more athletic. Jefferson, Blair, and a healthy Ginobili WILL fix that problem. McDyess fixes a different problem.

[td_tp_manu]

I never knew Spurs could have an offseason this way! How beautiful is that

[Mavs<Spurs]

Originally Posted by Capt Bringdown View Post

According to Yahoo, it's a 3 year, 15 million dollar deal.

If so, I'm very disappointed. He's 35, FFS. I would have rather have had Big Baby, or some other younger player.

:idiot


And Big Baby was going to help with more athletic teams? Lol...fail.

+ 1

[Mavs<Spurs]

Did I mention that I have a secret anonymous source who told me through twitter that the Spurs were going to do a sign and trade. Wait, now I hear that it is only a trade ! but I can give no links at all or any confirmation. Just trust me.

I am also selling beachfront property in Kansas - it's beautiful, right beside the Pacific Ocean.

And I have about 25 total posts here on Spurstalk.

:lmao

[Agloco]

According to Yahoo, it's a 3 year, 15 million dollar deal.

If so, I'm very disappointed. He's 35, FFS. I would have rather have had Big Baby, or some other younger player.

Spurs never seem to learn when it comes to signing old players.

You're quite possibly the only person on this board who is.

[lefty]

You're quite possibly the only person on this board who is.
"captain Bringdown"

No need to luck further

[Parker2112]

Did I mention that I have a secret anonymous source who told me through twitter that the Spurs were going to do a sign and trade. Wait, now I hear that it is only a trade ! but I can give no links at all or any confirmation. Just trust me.

I am also selling beachfront property in Kansas - it's beautiful, right beside the Pacific Ocean.

And I have about 25 total posts here on Spurstalk.

:lmao

I'm buying this. We now have a solid PF, we've got Hairston signed, I think the Spurs immediately ship Bonner and Finley for a backup point or defensive minded SF. All this dealing for the Spurs has made both expendable, and I think the Spurs would also be looking for cap relief. :wow

I'm looking for something to go down soon. Very curious as to what might be in the works....

[Spursfan092120]

Good pickup, Spurs.

Now you fucking BETTER help Dice win his ring.
we're gonna do everything we can, man. Always liked the Pistons and respected them (partially because they're good guys..and they play a lot like SA) and if we can get McDyess a ring, I'd be proud as hell of him, and our Spurs.

[angelbelow]

lol capt bringdowns just doing his job. hes probably just as happy as the next spurs fan.

[Knoxxx]

I'm buying this. We now have a solid PF, we've got Hairston signed, I think the Spurs immediately ship Bonner and Finley for a backup point or defensive minded SF. All this dealing for the Spurs has made both expendable, and I think the Spurs would also be looking for cap relief. :wow

I'm looking for something to go down soon. Very curious as to what might be in the works....

Not buying. I don't see how we get any cap relief shipping Bonner and Finley, who make less than $6 million combined and expiring in 2010. I am as greedy as the next Spurs fan, but we may end up better off keeping them on the end of our bench or the IR this season.

[bishopospurs]

I heart the spurs off season

http://www.valentinejoys.com/funny_pictures/valentines_day_funny_03.jpg

[timtonymanu]

I knew as soon as Sheed picked Boston that Dice was going to the Spurs. Great signing! Now let's win one for Dice.

[manufan10]

Did I mention that I have a secret anonymous source who told me through twitter that the Spurs were going to do a sign and trade. Wait, now I hear that it is only a trade ! but I can give no links at all or any confirmation. Just trust me.

I am also selling beachfront property in Kansas - it's beautiful, right beside the Pacific Ocean.

And I have about 25 total posts here on Spurstalk.

:lmao

I'll buy! :lol

[Russ]

Not buying. I don't see how we get any cap relief shipping Bonner and Finley, who make less than $6 million combined and expiring in 2010. I am as greedy as the next Spurs fan, but we may end up better off keeping them on the end of our bench or the IR this season.

Bonner seems like one of the most down-to-earth, engaging, bright, centered and self-aware Spurs ever.

That said, Bonner needs to go (Jackie Butler style if neccessary).

[manufan10]

"captain Bringdown"

No need to luck further

:lol

[Solid D]

Younger and more athletic?

2008-09........2009-10.....Younger/+Athletic
Thomas 36.........McDyess 34.....Yes
Bowen 38.......... Jefferson 29....Yes
Oberto 34...........Blair 20...........Yes
Udoka 31............Hairston 22......Yes
Vaughn 34..........McClinton 24....Yes

[jdev82]

Younger and more athletic?

2008-09........2009-10.....Younger/+Athletic
Thomas 36.........McDyess 34.....Yes
Bowen 38.......... Jefferson 29....Yes
Oberto 34...........Blair 20...........Yes
Udoka 31............Hairston 22......Yes
Vaughn 34..........McClinton 24....Yes

lol pwned

[Parker2112]

Not buying. I don't see how we get any cap relief shipping Bonner and Finley, who make less than $6 million combined and expiring in 2010. I am as greedy as the next Spurs fan, but we may end up better off keeping them on the end of our bench or the IR this season.

The problem is that they will stand in the way for the development of guys like Hairston, Haislip, Gist and DeJuan. Pop will lean on Finley every chance he gets. Just look at how he buried Hill on the bench in the playoffs. Let the new starting five carry the load while the youngsters learn the same way TP did...we need some new blood to pan out.

As for cap relief, with tax, your talking 10 million. That's a hell of a lot for guys on the IR, which is part of the reason they need to go...they'll wind up putting someone else on the IR instead.

[Marcus Bryant]

Younger and more athletic?

2008-09........2009-10.....Younger/+Athletic
Thomas 36.........McDyess 34.....Yes
Bowen 38.......... Jefferson 29....Yes
Oberto 34...........Blair 20...........Yes
Udoka 31............Hairston 22......Yes
Vaughn 34..........McClinton 24....Yes

Gist
Haislip
Mahinmi

Spurs are going to have a group of young athletes coming off the bench and running with TP, not to mention Jefferson. Further, who is this experienced young athletic 5 who the Spurs could've signed instead in free agency?

[Parker2112]

Younger and more athletic?

2008-09........2009-10.....Younger/+Athletic
Thomas 36.........McDyess 34.....Yes
Bowen 38.......... Jefferson 29....Yes
Oberto 34...........Blair 20...........Yes
Udoka 31............Hairston 22......Yes
Vaughn 34..........McClinton 24....Yes

The potential is there... NOW PLAY 'EM POP! Get these guys some pt. Confidence only comes with experience.

[spurtech09]

yes!!!!!!!!!!!!duncan,dice,and blair....SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Spurtacus]

I'm glad I didn't get too excited about Dice coming to SA. Now that he's gonna be a Spur I'm EXCITED.

[SouthTexasRancher]

Spurs overpaid for old goods. This is not a good deal.


You really should just stick to critiquing High School Ping Pong. You are at least fairly good at that.

[SouthTexasRancher]

yes!!!!!!!!!!!!duncan,dice,and blair....SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That'll force the Lakers marshmellow's, Gasol & Bynum, out beyond the arc to shoot 3's.

[Solid D]

Younger and more athletic?

2008-09........2009-10.....Younger/+Athletic
Thomas 36.........McDyess 34.....Yes
Bowen 38.......... Jefferson 29....Yes
Oberto 34...........Blair 20...........Yes
Udoka 31............Hairston 22......Yes
Vaughn 34..........McClinton 24....Yes


Gist
Haislip
Mahinmi

Spurs are going to have a group of young athletes coming off the bench and running with TP, not to mention Jefferson. Further, who is this experienced young athletic 5 who the Spurs could've signed instead in free agency?

........................Haislip 28.........Yes
........................Gist 22............Yes
Mahinmi DNP........Mahinmi 22.......Yes

[Mavs<Spurs]

I'll buy! :lol

ya'll remember that I'm parodying that new poster earlier in this thread, right ?

I'm a skeptic with that new person and his claims, but I am more than willing to be proven wrong.

I'd be thrilled to be rid of Bonner and Finely if possible. And if we can get Bowen back and a decent role player, it would be gravy.

But I'm beyond happy with what the FO did already. And I'm not holding my breath for this new person's claims to come true !

[Mavs<Spurs]

........................Haislip 28.........Yes
........................Gist 22............Yes
Mahinmi DNP........Mahinmi 22.......Yes



Ain't got no damn experience. Too young, unproven. Going to choke under pressure.

or something.

Now that you shot down Capt Bringdown's argument, I was just trying to imagine his next futile attack !

:lmao

[Avitus1]

Hell yes. I shouted "YES!" when I got a text about this on my phone. My G/F thought I was loosing my mind.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa123/Blorno/celebrate.gif

[50 cent]

I just read this entire thread.

It is long.

I'm stoked.

[ambchang]

HAHAHAHAHAHA! I am just ecstatic! Spurs with McDyess! Yeah!

[gm5k]

anyone else updating NBA 2K9 by sending RJ and McDyess to the Spurs tonight? :toast

or wait, does Xbox live do this for you? hmmm don't have my Live account anymore :depressed

at any rate, I'm thrilled about McDyess. hello to everyone I'm gm5k :flag:

[Mavs<Spurs]

anyone else updating NBA 2K9 by sending RJ and McDyess to the Spurs tonight? :toast

or wait, does Xbox live do this for you? hmmm don't have my Live account anymore :depressed

at any rate, I'm thrilled about McDyess. hello to everyone I'm gm5k :flag:

welcome aboard Spurstalk, gm5k !

A very promising offseason, no ?

:blah:flag:

[z0sa]

This is good news. Personally, I prefered Sheed. McDyess is the better option personality wise, though.

Dice is coming from a situation where there would be no winning. You would be quite the understater if you called what Detroit left on the court in the 09 playoffs "forgettable." Yet in actuality, what McDyess left on the floor made most, if not all, of the other Pistons look silly. Intensely focused, no one doubted Dice came to play against Cleveland despite horrible odds and chemistry. Indeed, its hard to rank Sheed above Dyess if their contributions in their last playoff series together were any indicator of their current ability.

The Spurs have made significant moves this offseason, which all were fearing would not occur. While I believe there was more 'upside' to a Sheed signing, Dyess if healthy is the better bet to deliver consistently, and without worry of character issues. These are perhaps the most important factors of all.

[poeticism707]

I just read this entire thread.

It is long.

I'm stoked.
:king

[poeticism707]

The potential is there... NOW PLAY 'EM POP! Get these guys some pt. Confidence only comes with experience.

Agreed. Pop has to play the youngsters now, so that they'll be ready come playoffs.

[poeticism707]

Good pickup, Spurs.

Now you fucking BETTER help Dice win his ring.
:flag::flag:

:lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2:

[completely deck]

:hungry:

[poeticism707]

I knew as soon as Sheed picked Boston that Dice was going to the Spurs. Great signing! Now let's win one for Dice.
:hat

[poeticism707]

Younger and more athletic?

2008-09........2009-10.....Younger/+Athletic
Thomas 36.........McDyess 34.....Yes
Bowen 38.......... Jefferson 29....Yes
Oberto 34...........Blair 20...........Yes
Udoka 31............Hairston 22......Yes
Vaughn 34..........McClinton 24....Yes
:flag:+:ihit=:lobt2:

[poeticism707]

hell yes this offseason has been better than the past 4 offseasons combined!

Easily.

[poeticism707]

Nice. You got an arthritic old man to play power forward for you. Good job. :tu
:whine

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

I'll go ahead and say that my death threat against Mr. McDyess if he signed with the Rockets was the tipping point. You're all welcome.

And I'm glad that there will not be any need for anything, shall we say, unfortunate to happen, Antonio. You made the right call.

[poeticism707]

You know how Shaq claims the his slogan is win a ring for the king?
Well, the Spurs slogan should be Win the prize for the Dice.

How about,

"Pay the Price for Dice!!!"

[poeticism707]

Mistake by both of them. Duncan is 33 now, he'll be 34 during the Playoffs next year (April 25).
:nope

[poeticism707]

Nice to see Spurs fans happy.
:toast

Very classy, Laker fan!

[crc21209]

anyone else updating NBA 2K9 by sending RJ and McDyess to the Spurs tonight? :toast

or wait, does Xbox live do this for you? hmmm don't have my Live account anymore :depressed

at any rate, I'm thrilled about McDyess. hello to everyone I'm gm5k :flag:

Already did it! :toast

[poeticism707]

According to ESPN.com, the Spurs have ceased to exist

But they will to talk about us come June 2010.............

:lol:lol:lol

Ah yes, welcome back to Business as usual!

When the Spurs are great, they're completely ignored: mentioned only when absolutely necessary, as an embarrassment, as though the commentators are ashamed to even present such a mundane topic.

When the Spurs are terrible (not often), the media CAN'T WAIT TO REMIND YOU OF JUST HOW OVER THE HILL DUNCAN AND HIS SPURS REALLY ARE.

Typical.:wakeup

[poeticism707]

Awesome news!!! Congrats to the Spurs. Now get my boy a RING!





:flag::flag::flag:
:king

[poeticism707]

His new nickname should be "San Antonio".
:wow

I like it!!!

I like it a lot!!!

[poeticism707]

Is that trade everybody is talking about: Gadzuric for Bonner and Finley? 'cause my dad said he heard that. I hope it is not true we already have enough bigmen.

You can never have enough big men:

especially for Bonner and Finley.

I'd do that deal without thinking twice for those two players for Gadzuric.

[poeticism707]

I think tp had seen enough
he was wanting things done
2 years in a row one of their major pieces hurt in playoffs
atleast if one of them is hurt spurs now have jefferson who should be able to help
:toast

[poeticism707]

Hope Sheed doesn't take this ass-whupping personally.
:lol

[poeticism707]

Nice.:tu

Not quite as nice as the Hairston signing, but nice.:smokin
:lol

[Blackjack]

Don't be bashful, poeticism707...

Feel free to post a reply every once in a while.:hat

[FvckMavs]

Looks like Sheed is getting 3 years MLE, with third year player option.

[poeticism707]

why the fuck do all the major sports networks never tell good spurs news during the show why is it always at the fucking end?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:rollin:rollin:rollin

The Sports Networks would RATHER REPORT ABOUT THE DECOMPOSITION OF HORSE MANURE THAN SPEAK POSITIVELY ABOUT THE SPURS!

[poeticism707]

Just found out.

Great player, great person going to a great organization with great people.

Good luck, Dice. And, San Antonio, you're very lucky to have him. And, he's lucky to have a chance to play for a great team, franchise, and fan base.

Sincerely,

this Piston fan.

You're as classy as they come.

This :lobt2:is for you, Jamstone!!!

:flag::flag::flag::flag::flag:

[poeticism707]

Don't be bashful, poeticism707...

Feel free to post a reply every once in a while.:hat
:rollin

Always a pleasure, BlackJack21!!!

Now, if the Spurs turn Finley and Bonner, into, say, Dan Gadzuric, then this offseason will turn into Mardi Gras!!!

[Summers]

I'll go ahead and say that my death threat against Mr. McDyess if he signed with the Rockets was the tipping point. You're all welcome.

And I'm glad that there will not be any need for anything, shall we say, unfortunate to happen, Antonio. You made the right call.

Whew, that was close. Can I get my shovel and ski mask back now?

[poeticism707]

Whew, that was close. Can I get my shovel and ski mask back now?
:bang

[Summers]

Don't be bashful, poeticism707...

Feel free to post a reply every once in a while.:hat

Or use the multi-quote funciton. :)

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

Whew, that was close. Can I get my shovel and ski mask back now?

Of course. The sooner another set of fresh prints gets on them the better.

[Pistons < Spurs]

http://imgburst.com/up/dicespurnj7W.jpg

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

P < S with quality stuff, as usual. Very nice.

[Brazil]

http://imgburst.com/up/dicespurnj7W.jpg

:toast

[polandprzem]

Nice to start a work with that info !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Anybody text timvp the message !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[poeticism707]

Nice to start a work with that info !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Anybody text timvp the message !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:king

[DrHouse]

At this stage in his career McDyess = Kurt Thomas in '08. This is not a game changing move by any means. Definitely not a move that will get the Spurs up to the Laker's level.

[Summers]

At this stage in his career McDyess = Kurt Thomas in '08. This is not a game changing move by any means. Definitely not a move that will get the Spurs up to the Laker's level.

Someone's jealous of our mental stability.

[DrHouse]

Someone's jealous of our mental stability.

LOL. You realize your only hope of beating LA is praying that somehow Ron Artest self destructs and brings down the entire franchise right?

Pretty pathetic.

[Mr. Body]

At this stage in his career McDyess = Kurt Thomas in '08. This is not a game changing move by any means. Definitely not a move that will get the Spurs up to the Laker's level.

This is like Karl Rove giving Democrats advice during the 2008 election.

[superbigtime]

What a relief. The frontcourt will be so solid. No more tapouts and reaches for rebounds. I was so sick of seeing the Spurs repeatedly outrebounded. No more. Dice is a class act and fits the Spurs mold. Great great signing.

[Blackjack]

http://imgburst.com/up/dicespurnj7W.jpg

:tu

I'm thinkin' he's going to go with 24, though..

Why screw up what's finally been working?

[DrHouse]

What a relief. The frontcourt will be so solid. No more tapouts and reaches for rebounds. I was so sick of seeing the Spurs repeatedly outrebounded. No more. Dice is a class act and fits the Spurs mold. Great great signing.

Newsflash, McDyess is going to get outrebounded by bigger PF's and C's. Have any of you morons actually watched him play recently?

[MaNu4Tres]

:tu

I'm thinkin' he's going to go with 24, though..

Why screw up what's finally been working?

Richard Jefferson

[Warlord23]

Newsflash, McDyess is going to get outrebounded by bigger PF's and C's. Have any of you morons actually watched him play recently?

And which C do you have in mind? 6 PPG / 4 RPG Andrew "the next Hakeem/Kareem/Wilt hybrid" Bynum by any chance?

[Summers]

LOL. You realize your only hope of beating LA is praying that somehow Ron Artest self destructs and brings down the entire franchise right?

Pretty pathetic.

I give it even odds. Really.

[MaNu4Tres]

Newsflash, McDyess is going to get outrebounded by bigger PF's and C's. Have any of you morons actually watched him play recently?

I wouldn't exactly call anyone morons.


People treat Duncan and Ginobili like they are the same players they were in '05/'07. The reality is they aren't, and it's because of this that the Spurs have not made it back to the Finals since.

They need their Big 3 to be dominant to go all the way. What the Spurs have now is good enough to make it to the WCF maybe, but not good enough to truly compete with the big boys. For that they would need some help from Father Time.


You posted this about 2 hours ago and were completely wrong. (Read above) And shows you might not watch the NBA outside of your beloved Lakers whenever they are winning.

Then you totally ignored this rebuttal ( Read below) to your inaccurate synopsis on Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili.


:lol

Actually Ginobili had his best year in 2008. Then he got hurt in the playoffs against the Suns.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/stats?playerId=272


Tim Duncan has been the same player since 2005. As a matter of fact he was having his best year since 2003 before he got a severe case of knee tendonosis.

To prove my point after his injury, he only avg. 16.5 points a game in March on .46 percent shooting, the whole year before that he was putting up his best numbers in years.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/gamelog?playerId=215



Spurs haven't won since 2007 because of injuries at bad times. It happens. It's not because the Big Three suck now.

I will admit even with our big 3 healthy this past year, we wouldn't have gotten by the lakers.

With the additions the Spurs have made and if Spurs as fortunate as the Lakers were last year in regard of injuries. Spurs will be the biggest threat.

[AFBlue]

At this stage in his career McDyess = Kurt Thomas in '08. This is not a game changing move by any means. Definitely not a move that will get the Spurs up to the Laker's level.

Don't think anyone is saying this particular move was the "game changer", but the Spurs lost frontcourt depth when they traded for Richard Jefferson, which was probably the single most significant move of the Spurs' offseason.

They got alot of that depth back in McDyess, who despite what you say is actually a more complete player and better compliment to Tim Duncan than KT.

Start with the Jefferson deal, add a lottery talent rookie and finish it off with a solid big....all that plus a healthy Manu DEFINITELY changes the game. Obviously the games have yet to be played, but on paper I see the Spurs got MUCH younger, athletic and more talented....while the Lakers swapped one starting SF for another, and may still lose Lamar Odom to another team.

Seems alot closer to me than you give it credit.

[poeticism707]

I wouldn't exactly call anyone morons.




You posted this about 2 hours ago and were completely wrong. And shows you might not watch the NBA outside of your beloved Lakers whenever they are winning.

Then you totally ignored this rebuttal to your inaccurate synopsis on Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili.

:lol

Why bother getting on the merry go round with this person?

Clearly, it never stops!!!

[Warlord23]

Yeah I'm bummed that the Spurs FO is coughing up MLE money for a guy who'll likely produce 8/8 in about 28 minutes.

They should have been like LA and spent double that money for a bust who produces 6/4 and fouls out in 20 minutes

[ElNono]

I see Mr Insecurity showed up. That didn't take long.

[Blackjack]

Richard Jefferson


:lmao

I think I'm having sensory overload.

I can't keep track of all these additions..:downspin:

[GSH]

At this stage in his career McDyess = Kurt Thomas in '08. This is not a game changing move by any means. Definitely not a move that will get the Spurs up to the Laker's level.

http://ugliesttattoos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/ut-troll.jpg

[mytespurs]

I see Mr Insecurity showed up. That didn't take long.

Of course. The rest will be along soon.

[Brazil]

Newsflash, McDyess is going to get outrebounded by bigger PF's and C's. Have any of you morons actually watched him play recently?

So how old are you??

[bdubya]

At this stage in his career McDyess = Kurt Thomas in '08. This is not a game changing move by any means. Definitely not a move that will get the Spurs up to the Laker's level.

I always whistle past the graveyard too.

[whottt]

Hopefully he'll keep producing like he has in the past but I'm going to temper my enthusiasm due to his age. Good signing considering what was available and that Matt Bonner was starting last season, but I'm still not sure that big rotation is solid as it stands.

[rayray2k8]

So how old are you??

Doesn't matter, I'm gonna enjoy watching his team go down.
You'll see a lot of bitching and blaming the refs for their losses, when in reality, their team will get out played.
Nice run while it lasted, house. :toast
A season full of injuries and the Lakers took full advantage.
Looks like there's another team with an asterisk on 1 of their championships.

[whottt]

Newsflash, McDyess is going to get outrebounded by bigger PF's and C's. Have any of you morons actually watched him play recently?

That's all well and good, but did you see who was starting alongside Duncan last season? If you don't think there's a huge improvement there you are teh moron.

It's not just him...they added Blair too. And Ian has athleticism.

[polandprzem]

:elephant

[Russ]

At this stage in his career McDyess = Kurt Thomas in '08. This is not a game changing move by any means. Definitely not a move that will get the Spurs up to the Laker's level.

Although the messenger is obnoxious, the message may have some truth.

The Thomas-McDyess analogy is one that has to worry Spurs fans a bit. (It certainly occurred to me.)

That said, Thomas had been playing on drastically reconstructed knees for 10 years by the time the Spurs got him.

McDyess will likely fare better. In fact, from a physical or athletic perspective, I would have been much more worried had the Spurs aquired Wallace.

[DrHouse]

Although the messenger is obnoxious, the message may have some truth.

The Thomas-McDyess analogy is one that has to worry Spurs fans a bit. (It certainly occurred to me.)

That said, Thomas had been playing on drastically reconstructed knees for 10 years by the time the Spurs got him.

McDyess will likely fare better. In fact, from a physical or athletic perspective, I would have been much more worried had the Spurs aquired Wallace.

McDyess has been playing on drastically reconstructed knees for even longer than 10 years so I don't see your point.

His skillset is NO different than Kurt Thomas. Your basically getting a replacement for what you lost in the RJ trade. What you needed was an upgrade, you didn't get it.

[EricB]

Hmm, so Kurt Thomas and Antonio McDyess have the same athleticism?

Goodnight Stephen A.

[Russ]

McDyess has been playing on drastically reconstructed knees for even longer than 10 years so I don't see your point.

McDyess never had the severity of knee problems that Thomas had. Thomas basically retired for a year or two and worked as an assistant coach for the Knicks while they tried to figure out if he'd ever play again -- and that was 10 years ago.

[EricB]

Thomas also had foot problems...

No jumping ability.

McDyess is 180 degrees different...

[MaNu4Tres]

McDyess has been playing on drastically reconstructed knees for even longer than 10 years so I don't see your point.

His skillset is NO different than Kurt Thomas. Your basically getting a replacement for what you lost in the RJ trade. What you needed was an upgrade, you didn't get it.

There skillset is different. Antonio McDyess is a lot more mobile than Kurt Thomas. Therefore he can defend the pick and role extremely better than Kurt could.

And on offense McDyess can actually pump fake and create off the dribble if the defender over commits running out to contest the mid-range.

Kurt is the better one on one post defender on the block. But with everything else McDyess is more mobile and versatile than Kurt. Offensively and defensively.

McDyess is an upgrade.

[DrHouse]

There skillset is different. Antonio McDyess is a lot more mobile than Kurt Thomas. Therefore he can defend the pick and role extremely better than Kurt could.

And on offense McDyess can actually pump fake and create off the dribble if the defender over commits running out to contest the mid-range.

Kurt is the better one on one post defender on the block. But with everything else McDyess is more mobile and versatile than Kurt. Offensively and defensively.

McDyess is an upgrade.

You have clearly NOT watched him play at all last season. The only offense you get from McDyess are his wide open midrange jumpers. That's it.

McDyess = Kurt Thomas. I don't denigrate the Spur's FO, this was the best they could realistically do.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

His skillset is NO different than Kurt Thomas.

Lol and you give people shit about not watching him play. McDyess has an inside game in the post and pulls down twice as many offensive boards to go along with a decent jumpshot. Thomas had a baseline jumper and thatsz about it.

On the defensive side you have a point but it was very clear that Thomas ahd lost quite a bit of lateral agility as evidenced by his defense on pic and rolls.

But seriously dude your coming off as if youre in full panic mode. Its obvious to anyone with a brain that the person you are trying to convince here is yourself. You should go and worry about your team retaining Odom and Artest's declining agility and shot selection going into his 11th season.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You have clearly NOT watched him play at all last season. The only offense you get from McDyess are his wide open midrange jumpers. That's it.

McDyess = Kurt Thomas. I don't denigrate the Spur's FO, this was the best they could realistically do.

LMAO he shoots only jumpers and hits 50% of his shots? Uh huh you keep going, pumpkin.

[MaNu4Tres]

You have clearly NOT watched him play at all last season. The only offense you get from McDyess are his wide open midrange jumpers. That's it.

McDyess = Kurt Thomas. I don't denigrate the Spur's FO, this was the best they could realistically do.

All the Spurs need from him is to hit the wide open midrange offensively as well as finish strong around the basket whenever Duncan/ Parker/ Manu/ RJ are passing him dimes.

McDyess is more mobile and capable of running the floor better in transition/ defend mobile 4's better/ defend the pick and roll better/ rotate to shooters quicker and contest shots more effectively/ recover better/


I can go on and on about how much more a mobile big man can bring to the table.

McDyess is more mobile and versatile than Kurt Thomas and just as good as a rebounder.

McDyess does not = Kurt Thomas.

[EricB]

You have clearly NOT watched him play at all last season. The only offense you get from McDyess are his wide open midrange jumpers. That's it.

McDyess = Kurt Thomas. I don't denigrate the Spur's FO, this was the best they could realistically do.


Keep reaching.

He still has a drive to the basket game and in the Spurs offense will be looked to for jumpers.

Keep reaching.

[polandprzem]

Anybody ate grapes that were not sweet?

[Kamnik]

Holy shit!

What an offseason! Unfuckingbelivable! :O

[angelbelow]

lol dr house you piece of shit.

[poeticism707]

Keep reaching.

He still has a drive to the basket game and in the Spurs offense will be looked to for jumpers.

Keep reaching.

I'm beginning to think the good Dr forged his doctorate degree...