Summer League Game Blog: Spurs vs. Nuggets - 7/14/09 9PM CT

[tmtcsc]

Man I don't care about the stats, getting this win is great.

That's funny. Most people care nothing about W's and L's and everything about stats in the summer league.

[siraulo23]

denver still has a chance

[iilluzioN]

kobe trying to be like Kobe......

interesting what newman does now

[Obstructed_View]

The one time he decides to play defense...

[loveforthegame]

Beck pulls a Manu.

The Hispanic connection :strirpot:

:lol

[ElNono]

There's Hill telling him: "Pinche Puto Foul"

[SPURS FO]

Beck fouled Carl on a fall away three that went in. Denver down two with 0.03 to go so they will be missing intentionally and looking for the tip in.

[Spursfan092120]

wtf was Beck thinking?

[4RINGS]

wtf kobeeeeeee


Another Coby/Kobe killing us. :lmao:lmao

[bishopospurs]

ugly ball tonight, but nice win. Hill and Hairston were good. It was good to see Ian running the floor and getting boards, the 10 fouls not so great. Romel Beck can shoot, but his d was weak. Lasme was okay tonight, but it is the same old same old, Hill, Ian, Blair look like they will make the team. hairston is trying, and has a shot. McClinton again MIA. Beck deserves a chance in preseason. Karl looked good too, didn't expect that to happen nice three at the end.

[Spursmania]

Good job by the young spurs at SL. They are now 2-0. Good leadership by Hill. :toast

[siraulo23]

great win, spurs 2-0@!!

[oligarchy]

O_V: What do you think of Beck?


What happened to Blair?

[Spursmania]

wtf was Beck thinking?

:bang

[iilluzioN]

Spurs win

nice try by Kobe

[Borosai]

!!victory!!

[ElNono]

We can definitely conclude that Blair didn't play today.

[coyotes_geek]

What the hell did Beck do?

Fouled Coby Karl on a 3 with his team up 5 and only 0.3 seconds left.

[timvp]

Nice win. That BS fullcourt trap made it more difficult but they got the job done.

Mahinmi gets the game ball. Hill and Hairston get a hat tip.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Jesus Christ we are a hardcore website.....this many posts and views on a fucking summer league game?

Wow.

[Obstructed_View]

Hairston may not have a relatively great shot like Mason or Finley, but he does things neither of them do, and I hope that's enough to get him some real minutes.

I'm still waiting to see anything wrong with his shot. I've been watching him for a year and haven't seen it yet.

[GooberNuts]

Why not a Spur player for player of the game?

[kbrury]

Serioulsy I would consider forfeiting the next game if that female ref is going to be there.

[bbarry]

I just realized that romel beck kid is the dude that plays for mexico's national basketball team, he's the onethat cross-over'd kobe and made a 4 pt play out of it. :lol:

I'm the only one who remembers this?

[angelbelow]

Good shit. Hopefully Blair plays next game.

[Libri]

George was giving Beck an ear full. lol

[Thompson]

I'm not going to criticize Beck for that one because they didn't show a replay and these are some of the most moronic refs I've ever seen. At least 3 (probably more) of the fouls on Ian were BS... and they ignored fouls against Ian. Freaking refs.

[iilluzioN]

omg Kobe getting all the media attention...

interviewing Kobe right now........

[HarlemHeat37]

I'd honestly be surprised if Malik isn't ahead of Finley in the rotation by the end of the year, barring injury..

I'm not necessarily looking at what Hairston does right now..I'm looking at his improvements..he's clearly improved significantly from last year's Summer League to this year..this guy clearly has a good work ethic, he isn't a liability IQ-wise, and he has solid physical tools..

He needs a lot of work when it comes to ball-handling and passing, but that is also the case for the majority of bench SFs in the NBA that are known for their defense/athleticism..

[SPURS FO]

Game over. Good guys win.

[Fdawg07]

Go spurs go!!!!

[ElNono]

Why does white chocolate gets the interview? They fucking lost

[AFBlue]

Not that I don't understand, but David Thorpe (ESPN) switched to tweet about the Clips. I'd love to hear his impression of Mahinmi's game from a technical perspective.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I'm just glad to see this offseason feel completely the opposite from the last.

:toast

[Obstructed_View]

O_V: What do you think of Beck?
Who?



What happened to Blair?
Who?

[siraulo23]

lol @ live boxscore R. Beck - DNP
A. Anderson got 14 points

[iilluzioN]

OMG they sucking Kobe's nuts......


typical

[loveforthegame]

Ian, Hill, Hairston with solid games.

I like Beck for some reason.

Still early but I better see Hairston get a roster spot before Gist at this point.

[manustarting2gd]

Karl, your in vegas lay out fool, get some sun brah. Maybe youll make a team if they cant see your organs, blood and veins thru your skin mane.

[Spurs_9_20_21]

good win! 2-0 baby! stupid foul on beck though! can someone post everybody's stats?

[Obstructed_View]

I'd honestly be surprised if Malik isn't ahead of Finley in the rotation by the end of the year, barring injury..

I'm honestly surprised that he wasn't ahead of Finley by the end of last year. He's a little less tentative than he was last year, but he's got all the same abilities.

[tmtcsc]

Damn. 2 assists for Hill in 34 mins ?

[GSH]

The best part, as far as I am concerned, is George Hill. He looks confident and comfortable. Yeah, he still has things to work on, but he looks like a different level of player compared to the other guys on the floor.

[kbrury]

Who?



Who?

What do you think of Ty Lawson? lol

[Libri]

Beck with a DNP.

Was he that bad? lol

[kbrury]

Damn. 2 assists for Hill in 34 mins ?
Shut Lawson's ass down. Plus full court pretty much the whole game.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Did McClinton play?

[LonestarLegend]

anybody got a game link?

[xellos88330]

Damn. 2 assists for Hill in 34 mins ?

Not all his fault. The team was missed at least 4 quality looks Hill got them.

[oligarchy]

Did McClinton play?

Depends on what you mean by "play"

[GSH]

I'm still waiting to see anything wrong with his shot. I've been watching him for a year and haven't seen it yet.


Well one thing that was wrong during the regular season was that it didn't go in. I know that's being picky, but...

[Obstructed_View]

Karl, your in vegas lay out fool, get some sun brah. Maybe youll make a team if they cant see your organs, blood and veins thru your skin mane.

WTF do you think being in the sun is going to do to him? I promise you it won't turn him brown.

[4RINGS]

Jesus Christ we are a hardcore website.....this many posts and views on a fucking summer league game?

Wow.


WE LOVE SUMMER LEAGUE!! :lmao:lmao Our wives are hating BB about now. :blah

[FireDavidStern]

Damn. 2 assists for Hill in 34 mins ?

Only trust points and fouls. This is summer league. If you spent the $15, you spent as much as the NBA did.

[siraulo23]

anybody got a game link?

:lol

[timvp]

Damn. 2 assists for Hill in 34 mins ?

The Nuggets were trapping him fullcourt, halfcourt and off pick-and-rolls. There was no real way to judge his point guard ability tonight.

[GooberNuts]

Damn. 2 assists for Hill in 34 mins ?

Yea his passing wasn't the best, but still reliable and assists depend on the receiving player to convert the basket, which won't happen as much in a summer league game.

[tmtcsc]

anybody got a game link?

http://www.nba.com/summerleague2009/games/boxscore.jsp?gameId=1520900023

[ElNono]

McClinton :td two in a row now...

[Obstructed_View]

Well one thing that was wrong during the regular season was that it didn't go in. I know that's being picky, but...

He shot 49 percent from the floor and was 0-1 with the first team last year. Again...

EDIT: Now I know what you meant when you said "it" didn't go in. :lol

[timvp]

Depends on what you mean by "play"

:lol

[manustarting2gd]

:lol
WTF do you think being in the sun is going to do to him? I promise you it won't turn him brown.

LOL... yeah your right, fool needs the spray on tan.
Sucks for him , his new nickname is POWDER.

[ElNono]

Coby Karl game high scorer with 19... :wow

[Obstructed_View]

McClinton :td two in a row now...

Pop's ability to evaluate talent is quickly going down the tubes.

[timvp]

Mahinmi made a massive jump from the first game to this game. Now if he can shake the rust off offensively and be a little less clumsy, the Spurs might have something here :hat

[ducks]

The Nuggets were trapping him fullcourt, halfcourt and off pick-and-rolls. There was no real way to judge his point guard ability tonight.

yes there was
how did he handle the full court press
better then beno?

[koriwhat]

sorry guys but i had my computer screen shutdown after a minute and i thought it'd keep recording... well it did but it is freeze framed with just the audio going from 2 minutes into the game. might try from the archive later. sorry.

[4RINGS]

Is AJ Abrams playing in summer league?

[tmtcsc]

Ian was the nicest surprise tonight. 16 boards is solid.

[montgod]

So after two games, here is how the race to make the roster looks:

Blair: Made team - no doubt.
Hairston: Good so far - will make it to camp and then see what happens.
Gist: Questionable/Borderline - Overseas or Toros probably.
Beck: Decent offense/no defense - summer camp fodder.
McClinton: He's a brickhouse - not good so far.
Williams: Make it to training camp at least.
Lasme: Summer league fodder, might be upgraded to camp fodder.

[timvp]

McClinton :td two in a row now...

He looked best running the point. Too bad Newman had him at point for like three minutes. Taylor over McClinton at point guard is mind-boggling.

Taylor straight up fell down while dribbling at least thrice.

[ElNono]

yes there was
how did he handle the full court press
better then beno?

Well.... ermm.... hmmm...

[oligarchy]

Pop's ability to evaluate talent is quickly going down the tubes.

Maybe someone can tweet Jack and ask him to film himself at practice making a bunch of shots..

Yes. We are talking about practice.

[Libri]

Pop's ability to evaluate talent is quickly going down the tubes.

Were the Spurs thinking of drafting McClinton at 37?

[urunobili]

Hairston most consistent Spur so far...

[johnnyblues]

So... why didn't Blair play tonight?

[ElNono]

He looked best running the point. Too bad Newman had him at point for like three minutes. Taylor over McClinton at point guard is mind-boggling.

Taylor straight up fell down while dribbling at least thrice.

Jack only played 10 minutes... I don't know... Maybe Newman doesn't have much faith in him?

[Thompson]

:lol Love the Seinfeld reference.

:lol I'm just glad someone got that.

[coyotes_geek]

Is AJ Abrams playing in summer league?

He is, but I forget where. I want to say New Jersey for some reason.

[poeticism707]

This is the best I've ever seen Ian play in terms of hustle, energy, knowing where to be and attention to detail. There's still rust offensively but he's been fabulous at doing the small things this game.

Like taking charges!!!

For a 6-11 big?!?!?!

Ian looked GREAT TONIGHT!!!

[GooberNuts]

We lucked out not only because we were able to get Blair at 37, but also because we didn't select McClinton there. Not that he still doesn't have a chance to prove himself, but so far he hasn't done too much to impress. I can imagine Spurstalk going up in flames with McClinton's performance had he been our 37th pick.

[timvp]

yes there was
how did he handle the full court press
better then beno?

He was a mixed bag. At first he tried to dribble through it. Eventually he tried to pass over it. After a while, the passing worked and led to layups.

It's kind of an unwritten rule not to throw fullcourt traps in freakin summer league so that true evaluations can be made. But I guess the Nuggets really wanted the win.

[oligarchy]

Taylor straight up fell down while dribbling at least thrice.

lol.. i thought i tuned into a failed ice skating exhibition, or it was 3rd grade recess with shoes untied.

[Obstructed_View]

It's kind of an unwritten rule not to throw fullcourt traps in freakin summer league so that true evaluations can be made. But I guess the Nuggets really wanted the win.

Isn't that a George Karl special?

[Russ]

Mahinmi made a massive jump from the first game to this game. Now if he can shake the rust off offensively and be a little less clumsy, the Spurs might have something here :hat

THe key will be seeing him in the preseason against bigs with NBA bodies. He struggles even against summer league size -- can he be effective against the big guys? Somebody definitely lit a fire under him, though.

[thekingrobert]

Coby Karl player of the game on a losing team wow...congrats...not

[ElNono]

He was a mixed bag. At first he tried to dribble through it. Eventually he tried to pass over it. After a while, the passing worked and led to layups.

It's kind of an unwritten rule not to throw fullcourt traps in freakin summer league so that true evaluations can be made. But I guess the Nuggets really wanted the win.

I actually didn't like how he handled it at all. But truth be told, the way to break full court traps like that has to do with spacing and help from your teammates. I didn't think they got much help or spacing worked out.

[manustarting2gd]

Isn't that a George Karl special?

Its called Daddy wanting his kid to win.

[poeticism707]

On a lighter note: These guys seem to have gotten the memo on FT shooting. After shooting 91% they are now 11-17
:lol

[coyotes_geek]

Taylor and Beck definitely need to have their dribbling privledges revoked.

[ducks]

He was a mixed bag. At first he tried to dribble through it. Eventually he tried to pass over it. After a while, the passing worked and led to layups.

It's kind of an unwritten rule not to throw fullcourt traps in freakin summer league so that true evaluations can be made. But I guess the Nuggets really wanted the win.

thanks I missed the game

[LonestarLegend]

I think Ian will be fine...its not like we need him to go out there and dominate in the reg season, if he can spell TD and Dice without having a huge dropoff in rebounding and defense then he'll be a welcome addition

[Obstructed_View]

We lucked out not only because we were able to get Blair at 37, but also because we didn't select McClinton there. Not that he still doesn't have a chance to prove himself, but so far he hasn't done too much to impress. I can imagine Spurstalk going up in flames with McClinton's performance had he been our 37th pick.

I agree. I can't stop thinking about how lucky the Spurs got. If Blair had been picked one spot earlier the Spurs would have gotten McClinton and left Sam Young on the frickin' board.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

ACCESS code??!???

[ElNono]

Taylor and Beck definitely need to have their dribbling privledges revoked.

True. But Beck to his credit has a very nice jumper.

[coyotes_geek]

I actually didn't like how he handled it at all. But truth be told, the way to break full court traps like that has to do with spacing and help from your teammates. I didn't think they got much help or spacing worked out.

I agree. Hill made a couple of bad decisions, but his teammates sure weren't anywhere to be found.

[ElNono]

access code??!???

lolz

[ducks]

THe key will be seeing him in the preseason against bigs with NBA bodies. He struggles even against summer league size -- can he be effective against the big guys? Somebody definitely lit a fire under him, though.

blairs rebounding did:hat

[Obstructed_View]

True. But Beck to his credit has a very nice jumper.

Too bad it takes about three seconds from start to release.

[poeticism707]

the refs have somthing against Ian

Yep: Ian MAY have only had 5 or 6 fouls if the refs weren't calling the wind blowing as a flagrant.

[oligarchy]

I think Beck's going to be a Hall of Famer

[buttsR4rebounding]

16 boards, 10 fouls and 12 points for Ian...a triple double...

[coyotes_geek]

True. But Beck to his credit has a very nice jumper.

That he does. And actually he's good at catching the ball and using ONE dribble to free himself up. Real nice jumper, but not nearly enough complimentary skills to justify consideration for an NBA roster spot.

[ElNono]

Too bad it takes about three seconds from start to release.

We had successful players with slow releases. SJax comes to mind.

[Obstructed_View]

Yep: Ian MAY have only had 5 or 6 fouls if the refs weren't calling the wind blowing as a flagrant.

Well he might as well get used to it. If he gets minutes this year he's gonna get rookie calls, even though he's technically not a rookie.

[oligarchy]

posminfgm-a3pm-aftm-aoffdeftotastpfsttobsptsS.Weems (http://www.nba.com/summerleague2009/players/index.jsp?player=sonny_weems)F31:192-160-41-2369160605R.Hendrix (http://www.nba.com/summerleague2009/players/index.jsp?player=richard_hendrix)F25:003-70-05-92240600011C.Simmons (http://www.nba.com/summerleague2009/players/index.jsp?player=cedric_simmons)C14:272-60-02-3246040116K.Rush (http://www.nba.com/summerleague2009/players/index.jsp?player=kareem_rush)G18:341-50-20-0000100002T.Lawson (http://www.nba.com/summerleague2009/players/index.jsp?player=ty_lawson)G29:000-70-18-8011321408R.Dupree (http://www.nba.com/summerleague2009/players/index.jsp?player=ronald_dupree)23:205-110-03-33141400013C.Karl (http://www.nba.com/summerleague2009/players/index.jsp?player=sl_coby_karl)25:296-73-44-51231313019C.Giles (http://www.nba.com/summerleague2009/players/index.jsp?player=sl_cj_giles)13:092-30-00-2336021104D.Draper (http://www.nba.com/summerleague2009/players/index.jsp?player=tmp_dontaye_draper)11:002-30-00-2000223104D.Byars (http://www.nba.com/summerleague2009/players/index.jsp?player=derrick_byars)08:411-50-22-4101110004http://www.nba.com/images/blank.gifTotal 20024-703-1325-381519341030616176 34.3%23.1%65.8%Team Rebs: 17Total TO: 17Spurs (2-0) (http://www.nba.com/summerleague2009/team/index.jsp?team=spurs) Field GoalsRebounds posminfgm-a3pm-aftm-aoffdeftotastpfsttobsptsM.Hairston (http://www.nba.com/summerleague2009/players/index.jsp?player=malik_hairston)F30:487-111-22-20221402117J.Gist (http://www.nba.com/summerleague2009/players/index.jsp?player=james_gist)F18:372-40-01-2134030305I.Mahinmi (http://www.nba.com/summerleague2009/players/index.jsp?player=ian_mahinmi)C28:104-90-04-65111601003212J.McClinton (http://www.nba.com/summerleague2009/players/index.jsp?player=jack_mcclinton)G10:570-20-10-0011420100G.Hill (http://www.nba.com/summerleague2009/players/index.jsp?player=george_hill)G34:035-120-26-71122522016M.Vinicius (http://www.nba.com/summerleague2009/players/index.jsp?player=marcus_vinicius)00:550-00-00-0000010000A. Gee (http://www.nba.com/summerleague2009/players/index.jsp?player=sl_alonzo__gee)04:280-10-01-2101000101R.Beck (http://www.nba.com/summerleague2009/players/index.jsp?player=romel_beck)26:196-111-31-21120202114S.Lasme (http://www.nba.com/summerleague2009/players/index.jsp?player=stephane_lasme)21:013-70-11-2358330227D. Taylor (http://www.nba.com/summerleague2009/players/index.jsp?player=sl_donnell__taylor)21:013-80-00-0358301316C.Johnson (http://www.nba.com/summerleague2009/players/index.jsp?player=carldell_johnson)03:410-00-00-0000000200D.Blair (http://www.nba.com/summerleague2009/players/index.jsp?player=dejuan_blair)http://www.nba.com/images/dnp.gif ---E.Dawson (http://www.nba.com/summerleague2009/players/index.jsp?player=eric_dawson)http://www.nba.com/images/dnp.gif ---N.De Colo (http://www.nba.com/summerleague2009/players/index.jsp?player=nando_de_colo)http://www.nba.com/images/dnp.gif ---http://www.nba.com/images/blank.gifTotal 20030-652-916-231529441330321778 46.2%22.2%69.6%Team Rebs: 6Total TO: 23 Technical Fouls --
Scoring Lead Changes : 4 Times Tied : 7

the code brackets help keep alignment

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Too bad it takes about three seconds from start to release.

:lol

[LonestarLegend]

I think Beck's going to be a Hall of Famer

Dude didn't you know he's a direct descendant of James Naismith? He invented basketball...

[Obstructed_View]

We had successful players with slow releases. SJax comes to mind.

The reason they were successful is because they had something else in addition to the slow release. Beck has that gimmick crossover, and that's about it.

[LonestarLegend]

Sjax was a master of the spin pass

[skinsfan1]

thanks for the updates

[GSH]

He looked best running the point. Too bad Newman had him at point for like three minutes. Taylor over McClinton at point guard is mind-boggling.

Taylor straight up fell down while dribbling at least thrice.


Taylor would make a great 6'5" PG... if he, you know, had PG skills.

[buttsR4rebounding]

what do you mean Code brackets?

[poeticism707]

I love how Hill and Hairston are being frozen out by the scrubs with them..

I also love how Denver is getting every call in a Summer League game LOL..

A portent of things to come, perhaps?

Don't forget that Billups was a key player for the Pistons in the 2005 Finals.

That series would have been over in 4 or 5 games if the refs hadn't let Detroit's defensive bigs foul Duncan in the post with absolute impunity.

My point: I guess the Spurs can expect that against Denver in the Playoffs.

[siraulo23]

game day!!! nothing better then playing basketball against people that are just as competitive as me.about 4 hours ago (http://twitter.com/DeJuan45/status/2641764083) from mobile web (http://twitterhelp.blogspot.com/2008/05/twitter-via-mobile-web-mtwittercom.html)

so i guess RC's response is more accurate?
nothing to do with contract stuff?

[oligarchy]

The reason they were successful is because they had something else in addition to the slow release. Beck has that gimmick crossover, and that's about it.

DuDe. WtF? ItZ a MAd CroSSOVer. Check da YouTUbe, Y0! KOBe#!$

[4RINGS]

He is, but I forget where. I want to say New Jersey for some reason.

I noticed AJ is on the Nets SL rooster, but he did not play in any of the games. Does not look too promising for him.

[spursbird]

Who can tell me how much does Ian really weigh? Why does it say that he is only 230 lbs on http://www.nba.com/summerleague2009/players/index.jsp?player=ian_mahinmi? But I remembered that he is about 250 lbs.

[beachwood]

Mahinmi is redeeming himself. Definite improvement from game 1.

[ElNono]

The reason they were successful is because they had something else in addition to the slow release. Beck has that gimmick crossover, and that's about it.

Oh I agree. But your description could perfectly describe Bonner also. :lol

[ElNono]

Sjax was a master of the spin pass

I can sip and entire cup of coffee between SJAX squaring up and releasing.

[GSH]

16 boards, 10 fouls and 12 points for Ian...a triple double...


They could have easily called another seven or eight fouls on Ian. He just kept brushing up against people. Damned Frenchman.

[kbrury]

lol Maximum Sports "Getting help from Antonio Andersen who had 16 points" lol

[Ocotillo]

Imagine tonight's Ian teamed with Blair against the Summer League foes. :wow

[ElNono]

Anybody wrote down the name of the female ref? I'm officially canceling my subscription to NBA League Pass once she goes pro.

[timvp]

I can sip and entire cup of coffee between SJAX squaring up and releasing.

SJax is 6-foot-8 with long arms and he releases at the highest possible point.

Beck ... not so much.

[coyotes_geek]

game day!!! nothing better then playing basketball against people that are just as competitive as me.about 4 hours ago (http://twitter.com/DeJuan45/status/2641764083) from mobile web (http://twitterhelp.blogspot.com/2008/05/twitter-via-mobile-web-mtwittercom.html)

so i guess RC's response is more accurate?
nothing to do with contract stuff?

There's no telling. If it were contract related, RC wouldn't tell us. The Spurs keep that stuff in house.

[oligarchy]

a few points..

-Hill didn't handle the press well IMO, can't deny that..obviously his teammates had a part in that..I don't think it's a big deal TBH, he'll improve..the thing is, Hill is NEVER going to be a passing PG, it just isn't his style..I highly doubt Pop would care too..Pop wants him to be aggressive and have penetration ability, and he clearly does..that's the key with Hill..he's going to be a scoring PG that focuses on D, while doing other little things..he isn't going to be a good passer any time soon, and it really won't make a difference in our system IMO..

-I don't think the fouls with Ian will be as much of a concern as tonight..the majority of his fouls tonight were against the perimeter players, not the big men, and obviously the majority of the calls were phantom fouls or very ticky-tack..they don't make those calls in the NBA, unless you're a superstar going against a role player..

like I said before..the thing I'm gonna look for in Ian is improvement..I don't care how his numbers look at the end, I just wanna see game-to-game improvement as he shakes the rust off..

from game 1 to game 2, I saw a massive improvement..now next game, let's see if he continues to improve, even if it's just in minor aspects..

You have to take it into context as well. It's summer league. I don't think George was really thinking, or worrying about full-court pressure. You can also obviously tell no one else on the team were worrying either as they didn't come to ball or keep anyone in the backcourt for what, two more plays? As you said, Pop likes scoring PGs. Hill's work out there is learn the plays and be a shooting guard who can run the pick and roll -- even if it high as hell.

Actually, as a rookie, he's going to get dumb calls until he establishes himself. Agree though, those were some ridiculous calls. The woman ref has no clue.

[timvp]

A portent of things to come, perhaps?

Don't forget that Billups was a key player for the Pistons in the 2005 Finals.

That series would have been over in 4 or 5 games if the refs hadn't let Detroit's defensive bigs foul Duncan in the post with absolute impunity.

My point: I guess the Spurs can expect that against Denver in the Playoffs.

Wow.

[D-ROB 50]

Ian will have a strong game tonight. Book it. 15 pts. 10 rebs. 2 blks.

Well I was close. He ended the night....
12 pts. 16 rebs. 2 blks. 1 out of three aint bad.

[AFBlue]

Pounding the Rock blog has a postgame interview with Ian...

http://www.poundingtherock.com/

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Wow.

He's doing a bit.

[coyotes_geek]

I noticed AJ is on the Nets SL rooster, but he did not play in any of the games. Does not look too promising for him.

Nope. There's plenty of 6-6 guys who can shoot who can't get NBA jobs, so a 5-11 guy is really going to have a tough time at it.

[ElNono]

A portent of things to come, perhaps?

Don't forget that Billups was a key player for the Pistons in the 2005 Finals.

That series would have been over in 4 or 5 games if the refs hadn't let Detroit's defensive bigs foul Duncan in the post with absolute impunity.

My point: I guess the Spurs can expect that against Denver in the Playoffs.

http://wa4.images.onesite.com/community.allhiphop.com/user/bigb86/thefuck.jpg

[poeticism707]

The refs just conferred, and agreed that they didn't want any flow developing in the game. Worthwhile stoppage.
:rollin:rollin:rollin

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Wow.


http://wa4.images.onesite.com/community.allhiphop.com/user/bigb86/thefuck.jpg

:lmao

[timvp]

Pouding the Rock blog has a postgame interview with Ian...

http://www.poundingtherock.com/

Props to PoundingTheRock for the interview and quickly getting it online. Impressive :tu

Mahinmi is difficult to root against. Great attitude and you can tell he really wants to live up to the potential everyone knows he has. (Well, almost everyone.)

Again, very impressive game by Mahinmi and a definite stepping stone in his recovery.

[oligarchy]

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pos min fgm-a 3pm-a ftm-a off def tot ast pf st to bs pts
M.Hairston F 30:48 7-11 1-2 2-2 0 2 2 1 4 0 2 1 17
J.Gist F 18:37 2-4 0-0 1-2 1 3 4 0 3 0 3 0 5
I.Mahinmi C 28:10 4-9 0-0 4-6 5 11 16 0 10 0 3 2 12
J.McClinton G 10:57 0-2 0-1 0-0 0 1 1 4 2 0 1 0 0
G.Hill G 34:03 5-12 0-2 6-7 1 1 2 2 5 2 2 0 16
M.Vinicius 00:55 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0
A. Gee 04:28 0-1 0-0 1-2 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 1
R.Beck 26:19 6-11 1-3 1-2 1 1 2 0 2 0 2 1 14
S.Lasme 21:01 3-7 0-1 1-2 3 5 8 3 3 0 2 2 7
D. Taylor 21:01 3-8 0-0 0-0 3 5 8 3 0 1 3 1 6
C.Johnson 03:41 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0

[Interrohater]

http://wa4.images.onesite.com/community.allhiphop.com/user/bigb86/thefuck.jpg

:lol:lmao

[poeticism707]

Beck pulls a Manu.

The Hispanic connection :stirpot:
:king

[4RINGS]

There's no telling. If it were contract related, RC wouldn't tell us. The Spurs keep that stuff in house.

If he does not play in any more SL games, then we can suspect contract neg. issues.

[FireDavidStern]

The fouls were divided 30-30 with lots of bad calls on both ends. I think Denver got the better of them but it probably was close. The problem is that these refs called 1.5 fouls/minute. That makes the game entirely unwatchable. Dear God do we need Simmons ref academy because if any of these refs are the future;

:hang

[ploshyjoshy]

ian has already showed a great improvement just from game 1 to game 2, if he can keep his fouling down he has the potential to be a great player

Also, first post. Gotta love australian schools allowing me on forums

[ducks]

can this thread go for 50 pages

[coyotes_geek]

If he does not play in any more SL games, then we can suspect contract neg. issues.

Agreed. We'll probably know one way or the other on thursday.

[xellos88330]

Mahinmi's reaction in his interview when asked "Was this your first career triple double?" was priceless!

[kbrury]

So I couldn't really tell did Hill guard Lawson most of the night or did he guard the 2's also?

[Interrohater]

can this thread go for 50 pages
I'll add a post just to help it along.
Ahem,
Ian Mahinmi looked great out there. George Hill also looked great. Also, the refs were horrible.

[ElNono]

can this thread go for 50 pages

Dunno. Wanna talk about Booner?

[timvp]

Just heard that Blair sitting is definitely contract related. Perhaps not 100% but it factored into him sitting.

[ducks]

Dunno. Wanna talk about Booner?

booner for that boozer fellow:blah

[celldweller]

http://wa4.images.onesite.com/community.allhiphop.com/user/bigb86/thefuck.jpg

Classic! :lol

[Interrohater]

Dunno. Wanna talk about Booner?
Sure. That guy will be great for us coming off the bench. As in, I hope someone takes him off of the end of our bench.:lmao

[ElNono]

Just heard that Blair sitting is definitely contract related. Perhaps not 100% but it factored into him sitting.

Have you heard if it's Spurs sitting him or his agent?

[oligarchy]

Just heard that Blair sitting is definitely contract related. Perhaps not 100% but it factored into him sitting.

Damn. HW might be right for once? I guess I'll have to eat

http://mashit.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/crow-summer.jpg

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Just heard that Blair sitting is definitely contract related. Perhaps not 100% but it factored into him sitting.

I don't like this kobesque I'm a spoiled rookie I do what I want shit.

Blair just lost faith points and he hasn't even suited up for a real game yet. What kind of pussy are you making yourself out to be if you're worried about getting your pay day as a second rounder during summer league?

[Oink Oink]

Lasme is better than Gist

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

The reason they were successful is because they had something else in addition to the slow release. Beck has that gimmick crossover, and that's about it.

Well, that was enough to get by against Kobe once upon a time...

[4RINGS]

Just heard that Blair sitting is definitely contract related. Perhaps not 100% but it factored into him sitting.


That is what most people suspected. Prob. on the agents end.:blah

[coyotes_geek]

Just heard that Blair sitting is definitely contract related. Perhaps not 100% but it factored into him sitting.

Most unfortunate.

[Russ]

Pounding the Rock blog has a postgame interview with Ian...

http://www.poundingtherock.com/

His voice even sounds deeper after this effort.

A bit of a Mutombo cackle at the mention of his "triple double."

[Russ]

Just heard that Blair sitting is definitely contract related. Perhaps not 100% but it factored into him sitting.

Blair would be crazy to play another minute without a contract. He made his point (and his money) last game.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Mahinmi sounds like a blacker, taller, younger version of tony parker....why is that?

[timvp]

I don't like this kobesque I'm a spoiled rookie I do what I want shit.

Blair just lost faith points and he hasn't even suited up for a real game yet. What kind of pussy are you making yourself out to be if you're worried about getting your pay day as a second rounder during summer league?

Having him sit out was an agreement between the Spurs and his agent. Supposedly prior to the game, Blair wasn't even told the reason why he wasn't going to play. As of right after the game, Blair was still out of the loopn

I'm guessing he'll learn about it now. And it sounds like both sides are confident Blair will suit up again before summer league is over. Perhaps as soon as next game.

[loveforthegame]

I was one of the people down on Ian last game. Not one of the ones wanting him waived or traded but was disappointed.

Not tonight though. He really showed what he is capable of and hopefully he can continue that with the SL play.

For me so far, Beck is ahead of McClinton and Hairston is way ahead of Gist in terms of who I'd like to see make the roster.

I like what I see in Lasme but I just don't see any space for him.

[4RINGS]

Having him sit out was an agreement between the Spurs and his agent. Supposedly prior to the game, Blair wasn't even told the reason why he wasn't going to play. As of right after the game, Blair was still out of the loopn

I'm guessing he'll learn about it now. And it sounds like both sides are confident Blair will suit up again before summer league is over. Perhaps as soon as next game.


That sounds like a good plan, let's get him signed and move forward. :spin

[timvp]

For me so far, Beck is ahead of McClinton and Hairston is way ahead of Gist in terms of who I'd like to see make the roster.

Hairston is a much better player than Beck. Not really even close. The only thing Beck might do better is shoot ... and even that isn't guaranteed.

[SonOfAGun]

I hope Blair makes the 7/19 game

[loveforthegame]

Hairston is a much better player than Beck. Not really even close. The only thing Beck might do better is shoot ... and even that isn't guaranteed.

My wording wasn't that good.

I meant Beck > McClinton

Hairston > Gist

It's still early though but that's who I'd say was ahead of the game for a roster spot imo.

[timvp]

My wording wasn't that good.

I meant Beck > McClinton

Hairston > Gist

Oops. My bad. :drunk

[coyotes_geek]

One thing is for sure, Hairston is the only guy doing himself any favors right now.

Hill, Ian and Blair are all locks to make the team. But everyone else is playing for a job. Malik is the only guy stepping up.

[FireDavidStern]

I've always liked what i've seen from Hairston and am very excited it looks like he'll make the team. I am also glad all of the Gist hype has died. Seriously the guy has one good summer league and he's made out as the next big thing. One name: marco belinelli

[montgod]

I don't like this kobesque I'm a spoiled rookie I do what I want shit.

Blair just lost faith points and he hasn't even suited up for a real game yet. What kind of pussy are you making yourself out to be if you're worried about getting your pay day as a second rounder during summer league?

A smart one.

If he gets seriously injured, the Spurs aren't liable to pay him a dime. He actually put himself at risk in playing the first game, but helped himself out in terms of contract talks with his performance. Unfortunately, we have to remember this is a business and no one else is going to take care of you no matter what they say (i.e. Celtics Powe). I don't think we should pin anything against his character for sitting out. Besides, his contract should get done by the next game.

[montgod]

One thing is for sure, Hairston is the only guy doing himself any favors right now.

Hill, Ian and Blair are all locks to make the team. But everyone else is playing for a job. Malik is the only guy stepping up.

I agree. I have feeling he will be the only one out of the bunch to be left standing.

Gist will probably go back overseas or be assigned to the Toros if he actually shows up the rest of the summer.

X-factor will be what Williams will do in camp.

[montgod]

blair would be crazy to play another minute without a contract. He made his point (and his money) last game.

+1

[Spurs16212]

Mahimni 16 Boards in 28 minutes...... 5 of them offensive..... wow......

Blair is making a mistake..... He needs to play his game and the pay will take care of itself.... He didn't get paid at Pitt so he shouldn't worry about it here..... If players take the same intensity that they took into college you would be surprised what you come out with....

McClinton is not himself.... His stats shooting wise is similar to G. Hill's last year..... Not entirely sold on waiving him just yet.... Maybe a year in Europe would do him some good.

I like the numbers Lasme is putting up as well as Beck.... Not sold on Gist.... However I am curious to see what we can get with a Bonner and Finley package before making a decision on someone.

Overall, Blair will get his contract..... If Mahimni can stay healthy, he will be a factor..... Hopefully the front office can make a solid decision on the 13th-15th men on the bench in the event they are needed.

[duncan228]

Spurs' Antonio Anderson scores 14 against Nuggets (http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/spursworld/)
By Joe Alexander

Antonio Anderson scored 14 points in his first summer league appearance for the Spurs in Tuesday night's 78-76 victory over the Denver Nuggets. Anderson was 6 of 11 from the field and 1 of 3 on 3-pointers.

In case you haven't heard much about Anderson, the 6-foot-6 guard was part of a 2009 senior class at Memphis that won 137 games in its four seasons. Anderson averaged 10.2 points, 4.8 rebounds and 4.5 assists as a senior and the Tigers won the Conference USA title.

For the second straight game, George Hill had more made field goals than he had in the entirety of last year's summer league. Hill was 4 of 8 from the field in the first half and finished with 16 points.

Malik Hairston had 17 points and Ian Mahinmi had 12 points and 16 rebounds.

[coyotes_geek]

Joe Alexander didn't watch the game.

[loveforthegame]

Joe Alexander didn't watch the game.

It was Beck.

I would like to know what happened to Anderson though.

[siraulo23]

Spurs' Antonio Anderson scores 14 against Nuggets (http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/spursworld/)
By Joe Alexander

Antonio Anderson scored 14 points in his first summer league appearance for the Spurs in Tuesday night's 78-76 victory over the Denver Nuggets. Anderson was 6 of 11 from the field and 1 of 3 on 3-pointers.

In case you haven't heard much about Anderson, the 6-foot-6 guard was part of a 2009 senior class at Memphis that won 137 games in its four seasons. Anderson averaged 10.2 points, 4.8 rebounds and 4.5 assists as a senior and the Tigers won the Conference USA title.

For the second straight game, George Hill had more made field goals than he had in the entirety of last year's summer league. Hill was 4 of 8 from the field in the first half and finished with 16 points.

Malik Hairston had 17 points and Ian Mahinmi had 12 points and 16 rebounds.

what? i thought it was romel beck who scored 14 points? anderson who?

[coyotes_geek]

Didn't he get Anderson confused with Beck??

It's fixed now, but for a while the boxscore at NBA.com was showing Anderson with 14 and Beck with a DNP. Looks like Joe wrote his piece from looking at the bad boxscore.

[FireDavidStern]

what? i thought it was romel beck who scored 14 points? anderson who?


Up until a while after the game, Beck was listed as a DNP and Anderson had his stats on the box score on NBA.com. Which really shows how much effort they put into this product they wanted me to pay $15 for.

[Spurs16212]

Ian has a triple double if you count his fouls... hahaha

Good Point..... :lol

Fouls is not something you want double figures though.... He has to work on that..... I think he had 7 or 8 in the first game.

He is showing tendencies of being very foul prone which is concerning. This is just summer league. I would hate to see when he faces the top talent of the NBA..... He may foul out in five minutes......

[kbrury]

Good Point..... :lol

Fouls is not something you want double figures though.... He has to work on that..... I think he had 7 or 8 in the first game.

He is showing tendencies of being very foul prone which is concerning. This is just summer league. I would hate to see when he faces the top talent of the NBA..... He may foul out in five minutes......
Realistically he probably had 4 or 5 fouls in this game, the refs were calling tickytack fouls especially on Mahinmi, his last so called foul had nothing to do with him but I guess the refs wanted to reach a quota or something.

[anjlbitz]

Report from the Cox Pavillion - Spurs vs. Nuggets

Finally got to sit behind the Spurs bench!!! Spurs fans were well represented tonight. I sat again with quite a few of them, all wearing Spurs merchandise. Peter Holt should be happy. Also a guy wearing a Spurs shirt won the dance off by default. Most fans in the arena were Spurs fans so we all cheered for him. lol

I thought the referees at the Spurs-Hornets game were bad, I didn't think it could get any worse. But the referees tonight proved me wrong. I understand they're also trying to get a job in the NBA, well it appears like they are failing miserably. Just putrid refereeing tonight. There was no flow to the game for either team because of the constant stoppages.

George Hill had a subpar game tonight. I had some Beno flashbacks when he kept turning the ball over while the Nuggets pressured him in the backcourt. Of course it didn't help that his teammates weren't helping at all while he was getting pressured.

Ian Mahinmi had such a great game. He was constantly moving his feet, hustling etc. I wish the guards would feed him the ball more so we can see more of his post moves. Most of the fouls called on him were totally bogus. But he does need to learn how to time his block attempts. During the 2nd half, it seemed like he was losing his concentration. The coaching staff and GHill kept yelling at him to tell him where to go. But overall, can't deny that he has talent and he'll only get better. I forsee a monster game from him on Thursday.

James Gist continues to get rim blocked and rejected on his dunk attempts over and over this SL. I don't know what's up with him but I would love to see "The Gist" from last SL. If he continues this play, he might go back to Europe for another year.

Jack McClinton continues to disappoint. I still have high hopes for him though. Also seems like he hurt his hand or something. I saw it wrapped during the game and while on the bench. Might be a reason why he's playing that way.

Malik Hairston had another great game. I still think he needs to improve his shooting a bit more but he's lighting up this game. Also he was hustling his butt off so props to him!

I guess everyone is on Rommel Beck's bandwagon again, but I'm not latching on anytime soon. He still can't dribble and caused costly turnovers because of it. And how could I forget that idiotic foul on Coby Karl. I think he will get a training camp invite because of his shooting but he'll get cut because he can't do much else.

Spurs fans kept calling for DeJuan Blair to play and was shot down. I came to the gym expecting to see him play especially since he was warming up with the team. I hope whatever is holding him up will get fixed soon.

Some pics: http://picasaweb.google.com/anjlbitz/SLSpursNuggets

[Bruno]

In 07 and 08, Spurs second round picks (Williams and Hairston) were quite bad during SL. As a result, Spurs didn't offer them a single guaranteed $. They both came into the training camp with an one-year fully non-guaranteed contract and were waived at the end of the camp.

I guess that McClinton will need to show significantly more things in the 3 remaining SL games if he wants to get some guaranteed money from Spurs. If he doesn't play better, Spurs talk should be "we encourage you going in Europe to improve your game. If you don't want it, we will only offer you a fully non-guaranteed contract with a good chance of being waived at the end of the camp.".

[mystargtr34]

I love Ian's reaction to the triple double question :lol.

[barbacoataco]

Is it right that if McClinton goes to Europe, the Spurs retain his rights in the NBA?

[mystargtr34]

I think there is maybe a little over reaction to Mclinton's game. I havent watched the game, but he must of been pretty bad in only 10 minutes for people to be writing him off even after it. I know the opinions are coupled with the first game he had, but its still way too early.

I said this about him before, i dont think SL is suited for his style of game. Hes a shooter more than anything. He will make his living of all-stars like Manu, TP and Duncan getting him open looks - i dont think he can find those looks in the SL.

Having said that, he still should be showing a little more given the competition, but im still confident in his ability to make the team. Im pretty much scrapping this second game since he only played 10 minutes, most at the PG (judging by reading the thread) - you cant expect a shooter to find a rythm in spot minutes. And ill also look at the positives and say he got 4 assists in only 10 minutes.

[mystargtr34]

Still too early to write him off.

[Buddy Holly]

Spurs' Antonio Anderson scores 14 against Nuggets (http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/spursworld/)
By Joe Alexander

Antonio Anderson scored 14 points in his first summer league appearance for the Spurs in Tuesday night's 78-76 victory over the Denver Nuggets. Anderson was 6 of 11 from the field and 1 of 3 on 3-pointers.

In case you haven't heard much about Anderson, the 6-foot-6 guard was part of a 2009 senior class at Memphis that won 137 games in its four seasons. Anderson averaged 10.2 points, 4.8 rebounds and 4.5 assists as a senior and the Tigers won the Conference USA title.

For the second straight game, George Hill had more made field goals than he had in the entirety of last year's summer league. Hill was 4 of 8 from the field in the first half and finished with 16 points.

Malik Hairston had 17 points and Ian Mahinmi had 12 points and 16 rebounds.

Wow, that's just straight up terrible.

[duncan228]

Wow, that's just straight up terrible.

It's unreal. I figured they'd catch it and update but it's been two hours and it's still there.

There are two comments about it. :lol

[Obstructed_View]

That's terrible with a capital TURRR.

[MI21]

Surprised to read that Hill struggled with a press.

I remember him having no problems against Lindsey Hunter when he applied one man full court pressure on George last season so you would assume he would have no problems against a zone full court press.

[Buddy Holly]

Surprised to read that Hill struggled with a press.

I remember him having no problems against Lindsey Hunter when he applied one man full court pressure on George last season so you would assume he would have no problems against a zone full court press.

It honestly had more to do with his teammates doing nothing to help him. Instead of trying to get open, they just stood where they were with their arms open waiting for a pass with a man on them.

[mountainballer]

SL 2008:

Malik Hairston continues to disappoint.

SL 2009:

Malik Hairston had another great game.


Jack McClinton continues to disappoint.

SL 2010 prediction:

Jack McClinton had another great game.

despite Malik's poor showings in the 2008 SL (he improved significantly at the end of the SL), it was recognizable that there is something, that could be turned into NBA quality.
IMO the same with McClinton.

[timvp]

Nice takes, anjlbitz. Cool pics :tu

They showed a throng of Spurs fans behind the Spurs bench a few times.

[DBMethos]

I think there is maybe a little over reaction to Mclinton's game. I havent watched the game, but he must of been pretty bad in only 10 minutes for people to be writing him off even after it. I know the opinions are coupled with the first game he had, but its still way too early.

I said this about him before, i dont think SL is suited for his style of game. Hes a shooter more than anything. He will make his living of all-stars like Manu, TP and Duncan getting him open looks - i dont think he can find those looks in the SL.

Having said that, he still should be showing a little more given the competition, but im still confident in his ability to make the team. Im pretty much scrapping this second game since he only played 10 minutes, most at the PG (judging by reading the thread) - you cant expect a shooter to find a rythm in spot minutes. And ill also look at the positives and say he got 4 assists in only 10 minutes.

Agreed, I don't think SL is a good showcase for his abilities. That said, I'd still like to see them run some plays for him off screens, curls, etc.

[Obstructed_View]

Perhaps it's selective memory for me, but I don't recall Malik Hairston "disappointing" during summer league last year. He was a non-factor much of the time, and he didn't put up numbers, but he had enough bright spots to convince me that he could be an NBA player. When Jack McClinton dunks on Yao Ming or stuffs Tayshaun Prince in the low post, my opinion of him might start to change.

If McClinton can't contribute to a summer league team against summer league talent, then he's not going to be an NBA player.

[duncan228]

Spurs' Antonio Anderson scores 14 against Nuggets (http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/spursworld/)

They finally corrected it.

Summer game 2: Spurs 78, Nuggets 76 (http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/spursworld/)
By Joe Alexander

Updated July 16 at 4:08 p.m.: The statistics originally published for Antonio Anderson actually belonged to Romel Beck.

Romel Beck scored 14 points for the Spurs in Tuesday night's 78-76 summer league victory over the Denver Nuggets. Beck was 6 of 11 from the field and 1 of 3 on 3-pointers.

For the second straight game, George Hill had more made field goals than he had in the entirety of last year's summer league. Hill was 4 of 8 from the field in the first half and finished with 16 points.

Malik Hairston had 17 points and Ian Mahinmi had 12 points and 16 rebounds.

[jimo2305]

http://www.justin.tv/ghostdude23

that link works

lol hey guys.. that's my channel

i passworded it so that it doesn't get put on blast around the internet then i get it shut down..

i took the pw off but incase it's back on.. the pw is jimo

;) see you on there today spurs nation!!!

make an accoutn there tho so we can chat ;)

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

lol hey guys.. that's my channel

i passworded it so that it doesn't get put on blast around the internet then i get it shut down..

i took the pw off but incase it's back on.. the pw is jimo

;) see you on there today spurs nation!!!

make an accoutn there tho so we can chat ;)

:tu