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Sdayi135
07-14-2009, 03:34 PM
Reaaly isn't much but I found this one rather interesting.

Amar'e Stoudemire Could Be Heading to the Denver Nuggets (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/216568-sources-amare-stoudemire-could-be-heading-to-the-denver-nuggets)

The Nuggets made a blockbuster about three games into the regular season last year. I sort of expected the same in the offseason. Currently they have not made any major moves to help their championship run.
A person close to the Nuggets have told me that there are currently some small whispers going around between the Phoenix Suns and Denver Nuggets. Those talks have been reportedly about bringing Amar'e Stoudemire to the Mile-High City.

Although it is still being talked about, this is the NBA, where, in Kevin Garnett's words, "Anything is Possible," and also where "Amazing Happens."
Amar'e has been shopped by the Suns since around the trade deadline, and he has also stressed his displeasure with Suns management. The Suns are currently in rebuilding mode, yet they go out and re-sign Grant Hill. The guy is 36 and will be 37 when the season starts.
The current proposed trade would be:

Nuggets Get
Amar'e Stoudemire

Suns Get
Kenyon Martin
Linas Kleiza
Future Draft Pick
Cash Considerations

Kenyon Martin might opt out of his contract 2010 giving the Suns $15 million in cap space. Linas Kleiza is also a young forward who would fit into the Suns rebuilding process.

However, it doesn't seem to make the Nuggets any better, but it would make them worse on the defensive end.
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Kenyon Martin is a better defender then Amar'e at the four spot. He is more physical and isn't afraid to make a statement. Ask Mark Cuban and Dirk Nowitzki. He shoved Dirk Down in game one of the second round.
Denver has already lost Dhantay Jones, a defensive specialist, and losing Martin, another great defender that doesn't take away from Carmelo's and Billups shots would hurt the team.

Sure Amar'e would be a force, but it's too good to be true. Every plan has it's flaws. Amar'e, Carmelo, JR Smith and Billups have that scoring mentality and at times take over games. Nene can come up with 20 on any given night as well.

Having the majority of your starting lineup being offensive threats and no defense isn't going to win you a championship. However, Billups would be able to level out Amar'e and control a starting line up of Billups, Smith, Melo, Amar'e and Nene.

JR has proved that he deserves to start, but I don't think it should be the case. The Nuggets gave up a key part in their bench, Linas Kleiza and the bench is already weak enough.
Ty Lawson, Chris Andersen and Renaldo Balkmen would be the first three to come off. Arron Afflalo is rumored to be heading to the Nuggets so he would take that Shooting Guard position.

Afflalo should start, and let JR continue to ignite the bench.

Overall this deal should no go down as it may look good on paper, but it won't work out during the regular season. Again talks are small but they can heat up quite fast.

sribb43
07-14-2009, 03:36 PM
thats a few days old and PHX would be idiots to do that deal

Muser
07-14-2009, 03:37 PM
thats a few days old and PHX would be idiots to do that deal

It's a done deal then.

Mr. Body
07-14-2009, 03:39 PM
I feel PHX can do better. I like trading Stoudamire but that's a crap deal.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
07-14-2009, 03:41 PM
Bullshit.

Double-Up
07-14-2009, 03:42 PM
For real what the fuck are they gonna do with Kenyon "Always hurt" Martin?

Mr.Bottomtooth
07-14-2009, 03:54 PM
It's a done deal then.

:lol

Spursmania
07-14-2009, 03:55 PM
It's a done deal then.

Yep.:lol

DUNCANownsKOBE2
07-14-2009, 03:57 PM
For real what the fuck are they gonna do with Kenyon "Always hurt" Martin?


1) Nothing, which is why this is just a rumor and not an official trade
2) The Carl Landry poo poo platter being offered for Amare isn't a whole lot better than this

Gino
07-14-2009, 04:08 PM
I love it when posters put up their ridiculous trade ideas and then post their even more ridiculous "reasoning".

For example: Kenyon Martin might opt out of his contract 2010 giving the Suns $15 million in cap space.

Yeah....and I might win the lottery tomorrow. I might get hit by a lightning bolt on the way home. Both are more likely to happen than Martin opting out of that deal.

Gino
07-14-2009, 04:08 PM
Edit: Double post.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
07-14-2009, 04:11 PM
I AGREE WITH GINO!!!!!!! :lol

Double-Up
07-14-2009, 04:15 PM
1) Nothing, which is why this is just a rumor and not an official trade
2) The Carl Landry poo poo platter being offered for Amare isn't a whole lot better than this


It's a hell of a lot better than Kenyon fucking Martin and garbage. Brooks, Landry, T-Mac, for Amare is somewhat fair deal. Two young prospects both which play positions that need youth and talent + a large expiring...decent.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
07-14-2009, 04:17 PM
Brooks, Landry, T-Mac, for Amare is somewhat fair deal. Two young prospects + a large expiring...decent.

I guess if that trade was legal under the salary cap it would be fair.

Phillip
07-14-2009, 04:20 PM
Interesting. It will help the Nuggets score more points. But their defense very likely gets worse. K-Mart is probably their best defensive player. Amare can't play a lick of defense.

Then again... something that people don't realize when they bag on offensive minded teams... its the teams that do nothing but run-and-gun that can't win crap, because they can't play half court basketball. What makes the Nuggets different is that they actually have the players to succeed in a half court set, so if they can play at least a LITTLE defense, and keep creating turnovers and scoring efficiently... this trade may be able to get them a title. They had every opportunity to beat the Lakers this year in the playoffs, but their lack of experience and maturity is what did them in. So it could be interesting. My main concern is Amare's ego. I wonder how well he would mesh with the rest of the team.

Double-Up
07-14-2009, 04:21 PM
I guess if that trade was legal under the salary cap it would be fair.

I'd pull the trigger on this one if it was still on the table.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=mvf3rf

45 bank shot
07-14-2009, 04:21 PM
with Stevey kerr as GM, impossible is nothing

DUNCANownsKOBE2
07-14-2009, 04:24 PM
I'd pull the trigger on this one if it was still on the table.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=mvf3rf


If I were a Rockets fan I would too considering it's highway robbery.

turiaf for president
07-14-2009, 04:26 PM
why the hell would martin opt out of 15 million dollars???

DUNCANownsKOBE2
07-14-2009, 04:29 PM
why the hell would martin opt out of 15 million dollars???


Because someone wanted to fabricate a rumor so they made something up.

The hilarious part of that is, Amare is A LOT more likely to opt out of $16 million than Wal-Mart is to opt out of $15 million.

rayray2k8
07-14-2009, 04:32 PM
Unless the Suns are rebuilding, this trade makes no sense.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
07-14-2009, 04:32 PM
Unless the Suns are rebuilding, this trade makes no sense.

How does it make sense if they are rebuilding?

Ariel
07-14-2009, 04:37 PM
No, canīt be. No matter how horrid a GM Kerr has been, he canīt be this stupid. Itīs just not humanly possible... Isiah aside, that is.

ffadicted
07-14-2009, 04:48 PM
In situations like this, Kerr just has to look at the mirror for a long second and say to himself...

"What would Memphis do?"

Stabbin' Cabin
07-14-2009, 06:54 PM
"Bhavik Darji

Im a 15 year old teenager. Currently live in BC Canada. I am currently enrolled in high school at grade 10. Been a Denver Nuggets fan since basketball was introduced to me."


Excellent source, this was definitely worth creating a thread over :lol

FireDavidStern
07-14-2009, 11:41 PM
Sounds like the Suns should have traded Amar'e to the Warriors and tried to get Curry or Randolph (preferably Randolph). That plus the parts to match contracts was the best the Suns will do. They have to trade him now or during the year or else they've lost him for nothing

VivaPopovich
07-15-2009, 12:05 AM
sick deal for the nuggets. kmart and nene are great utility players, but you cant dump it to either one and say "get me points" and expect them to make it more than 50% off the time off more than 15 attempts. amare gives them that

kmart and kleiza will eventually get waived for cash or draft picks if that deal actually happens

FireDavidStern
07-15-2009, 12:16 AM
sick deal for the nuggets. kmart and nene are great utility players, but you cant dump it to either one and say "get me points" and expect them to make it more than 50% off the time off more than 15 attempts. amare gives them that

kmart and kleiza will eventually get waived for cash or draft picks if that deal actually happens

Idk, what type of post game does Amar'e have. I honestly haven't seen him that often but i don't remember seeing a post move from him last year in the playoffs. Plus Amar'e probably has the skills to play defense and rebound but he has never shown the inclination.

If this trade goes through it makes the Nuggets a slightly to much better offensive team and slightly to amazing worse on defense and rebounding. It could work, but it would be the biggest gamble in the offseason. I question why the Nuggets needed this because if JR smith didn't completely disappear after being amazing in earlier rounds and they could make a damn inbounds pass, they had would have pushed the Lakers to 7 and possibly win.

mystargtr34
07-15-2009, 02:28 AM
Amare has had the reverse Ben Wallace effect. He went from being slightly over rated to completely and utterly under rated. You dont trade a talent like that simply for the purpose of shedding salary, and a role player, unless its to the Lakers.

I dont care how bad he is defensively.

Hornets1
07-15-2009, 01:31 PM
Only way it would be fair is if you switch K-mart w/ Nene.

Mark in Austin
07-15-2009, 02:39 PM
:lol... if ever a player and coach were cut from the same cloth, its Amare and George Karl.