Blair Signs Contract

[buttsR4rebounding]

DuJuan Blair just said on ESPN that he has signed his contract. No details, but great news.

[GooberNuts]

Great! So is he going to play the rest of the summer league then?

[Wombatzu]

so what do i do with this Panic Button now?

[mookie2001]

duncan228 scooped again



she'll get the link though...

[DMX7]

DuJuan Blair just said on ESPN that he has signed his contract. No details, but great news.

He said on ESPN? ESPN radio or what?

[Brazil]

nice

[YoMamaIsCallin]

I saw it too, was just about to post. The ESPN guy said, "What is it like playing without a contract? Does that affect your play?" And Blair goes, "My contract is done." The ESPN guy says, quote, "Oh!" I laughed.

Blair said it "just got done". I think this was the first public statement, just now, on ESPN News (TV). No details at all, just "it's done". No discussion about him not playing in the 2nd game or why. No discussion about whether he'd play the rest of the summer league. Just lots of chat about his rebounding progress, and a quote from a website called "spursproject.com" (is this real?)

Apparently there are Chuck Norris type jokes going around about Blair and his rebounding ability. If by "chuck norris jokes" you mean "really lame jokes".

[buttsR4rebounding]

He said on ESPN? ESPN radio or what?

It was on ESPN News. He did an interview from the Belagio.

[Tully365]

Nice. What's the single game rebounding record for summer league?

[rascal]

Good, better to get this done early.

[anjlbitz]

Nice. What's the single game rebounding record for summer league?

20. Lonnie Jones (who?)

[ElNono]

Everybody, step AWAY from the ledge...

[iilluzioN]

great news, Now lets see him play with ian down low in the post and dominate.

[ulosturedge]

This is good news :toast

[ffadicted]

I wonder if they used the LLE for this

[siraulo23]

If this is true, GREAT!
Good chance he'll play next game then

[z0sa]

Just another obvious outcome (to me) of what has turned out to be a near perfectly scripted offseason thus far. Blair fills a role the Spurs desperately need, while Blair wants the chance to share some time in the spotlight and prove the doubters wrong during a Spurs title run.

Excited to see its actually done now, though. I wonder what they paid him and from where?

[Big Empty]

there's already a thread on this

http://www.spursreport.com/forums/spurs-nba-fan-feedback/72467-blair-signs-contract.html

:lol

[Spursmania]

I couldn't find any article yet. Maybe Duncan228 will find one later.

[bigdog]

Awesome. Hope to see him playing next game with Ian down low.

[ducks]

I wonder if they used the LLE for this

if so only 2 year deal
if the used some if not all the rest of the mle he could be more years

[Libri]

so what do i do with this Panic Button now?

Save it for later.

[bigdog]

I'm sure it was whatever was left of the MLE. He's obviously a 1st round talent, so I would use the rest of the MLE to sign him to a longer deal.

[Big Empty]

I sure hope he pans out theres a ton of hype!!

[poeticism707]

If Blair demanded a contract AFTER ONLY ONE SL GAME, then he put himself ahead of the team in demanding a contract, and make no mistake.

Of course, I'm still VERY GLAD that Blair has been signed with the Spurs.

[Libri]

I'm glad they got this thing done quickly. There is nothing holding him back. He can now concentrate on playing basketball.

[bigdog]

If Blair demanded a contract AFTER ONLY ONE SL GAME, then he put himself ahead of the team in demanding a contract, and make no mistake.

Of course, I'm still VERY GLAD that Blair has been signed with the Spurs.

I think the Spurs were planning on sitting him anyways for that game that he sat out. I'm thinking they pretty much had the deal done, just wanted to get insurance details on there in case something goes wrong with the knees. The Spurs supposedly didn't use the entire MLE on McDyess, so one would assume they would use the rest of it on Blair. It was something between the Spurs and Blair's agent.

[Libri]

Will it be Wojnarowski to break the news?

[Mr. Body]

If Blair demanded a contract AFTER ONLY ONE SL GAME, then he put himself ahead of the team in demanding a contract, and make no mistake.

Of course, I'm still VERY GLAD that Blair has been signed with the Spurs.

Gah, people who say shit like this are dumbasses.

[SenorSpur]

I think the Spurs were planning on sitting him anyways for that game that he sat out. I'm thinking they pretty much had the deal done, just wanted to get insurance details on there in case something goes wrong with the knees. The Spurs supposedly didn't use the entire MLE on McDyess, so one would assume they would use the rest of it on Blair. It was something between the Spurs and Blair's agent.

McDonald was on ESPN 1250, The Zone, and he confirmed the Spurs DID plan on sitting Blair anyways. His being inactive had little, if anything, to do with the contract situation. Now that he's signed, this still doesn't mean that he will play in every game. McDonald stated that the Spurs are trying to figure out how to use him and they're specifically taking a cautious approach with him.

[angelbelow]

I am glad its done, I know it may be selfish or above the team, but there's no doubt in my mind that this was the right move for him. And depending on the contract it might be a great move for us too.

[Russ]

Blue collar guy. About as likely to go to Europe as Rush Limbaugh.

Blair and the Spurs were made for each other.:flag:

[Ace9]

Yes. :flag:

[Marcus Bryant]

Good deal, even if for the full LLE, which would be roughly $1.9 mil. A two year deal starting with a salary at that amount would be the same as what the 9th pick in the recently concluded draft is eligible to receive (http://www.nbpa.org/cba_exhibits/exhibitB.php) (assuming they signed for the salary scale figure). Given that he's one of the best players in the draft, it's well worth it.

[4RINGS]

I sure hope he pans out theres a ton of hype!!

Naw... Really?? Spurs Report = Hype

[MaNu4Tres]

Good deal, even if for the full LLE, which would be roughly $1.9 mil. A two year deal starting with a salary at that amount would be the same as what the 9th pick in the recently concluded draft is eligible to receive (http://www.nbpa.org/cba_exhibits/exhibitB.php) (assuming they signed for the salary scale figure). Given that he's one of the best players in the draft, it's well worth it.

You think he got that much?

[peskypesky]

Just another obvious outcome (to me) of what has turned out to be a near perfectly scripted offseason thus far.

:toast

I actually think it might be a good thing we got McDyess instead of Sheed. He seems a better fit for the Spurs.

So with RJ, McDyess and Blair, the offseason has been amazingly kick-ass.

[exstatic]

Good deal, even if for the full LLE, which would be roughly $1.9 mil. A two year deal starting with a salary at that amount would be the same as what the 9th pick in the recently concluded draft is eligible to receive (http://www.nbpa.org/cba_exhibits/exhibitB.php) (assuming they signed for the salary scale figure). Given that he's one of the best players in the draft, it's well worth it.

I'm thinking he got the remainder of the MLE, like $1.3M so that they can lock him up for 3 years and full Bird rights.

[raspsa]

Is Happy happy?

[Go For Tree]

If Blair demanded a contract AFTER ONLY ONE SL GAME, then he put himself ahead of the team in demanding a contract, and make no mistake.

Of course, I'm still VERY GLAD that Blair has been signed with the Spurs.
blair wasnt demanding a contract or hed sit out the SL.... in fact just a couple hours before the game yesterday he was "tweeting" about how ready he was to play. he didnt even know that he wasnt gonna play. at any rate this dude is ready. SL isnt as beneficial to him as it will be to mcclinton and some other prospects.

[Marcus Bryant]

You think he got that much?

No. But even if he did it would be a good deal, especially for a young big with his upside. The Spurs obviously wanted to get it done quick. If I had to guess, he probably got something like a 3 year, $4.5 million guaranteed deal starting at $1.4 million and with a player option for the 3rd year, so he could presumably opt out and get paid with the Spurs holding his Early Bird Rights in the summer Jefferson's large contract will end. I think the Spurs will prefer to let him hit free agency earlier so he'd be a restricted free agent.

Hell, Jodie Meeks got 3 years and $2.3 mil.

[angelbelow]

I'm thinking he got the remainder of the MLE, like $1.3M so that they can lock him up for 3 years and full Bird rights.

That sounds pretty good.

[exstatic]

No. But even if he did it would be a good deal, especially for a young big with his upside. The Spurs obviously wanted to get it done quick. If I had to guess, he probably got something like a 3 year, $4.5 million guaranteed deal starting at $1.4 million and with a player option for the 3rd year, so he could presumably opt out and get paid with the Spurs holding his Early Bird Rights in the summer Jefferson's large contract will end. I think the Spurs will prefer to let him hit free agency earlier so he'd be a restricted free agent.

Hell, Jodie Meeks got 3 years and $2.3 mil.

I think if they wanted to let him hit the market after two years, they wouldn't have re-worked the McDyess deal to 3 even years to keep some of the MLE available. Even at three years, he's still restricted for his first FA period.

[Da Spurs]

McDonald was on ESPN 1250, The Zone, and he confirmed the Spurs DID plan on sitting Blair anyways. His being inactive had little, if anything, to do with the contract situation.


:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

If you believe that, I have some land in Florida I'd love to sell you!

[FromWayDowntown]

Gah, people who say shit like this are dumbasses.

Oh come on. If Blair really cared about the Spurs, he'd play for free.


Actually, if Blair was a team player, he'd take a day job and give the Spurs his wages to help offset some of the tax payments they're going to have to make.

[pawe]

Contract is done so it's time to work Blair. Prove your worth.

[timvp]

Hell, Jodie Meeks got 3 years and $2.3 mil.As of last night, the deal the Spurs had on the table for Blair was similar. The sticking points were who had the option on the final year, what clauses would be included (weight clause, offseason workout clause) and if the Spurs would have any protection if something happens to his knees.

Hopefully McDonald can get specifics. :hungry:

[poeticism707]

Oh come on. If Blair really cared about the Spurs, he'd play for free.


Actually, if Blair was a team player, he'd take a day job and give the Spurs his wages to help offset some of the tax payments they're going to have to make.

This is ridiculous, and an OVERSIMPLIFICATION.

Did anyone suggest that Blair should play for free?!?!?

Of course not. Why I suggested, is that thinking he's earned the right to sit out of Summer games until his contract is negotiated, is VERY FOCUSED ON SELF: ie selfish. He could have EASILY continued negotiations BEHIND THE SCENE, and NO ONE would have known about it. There would be no "swirling rumors" floating around the web.

I'd be the first to say I have NO IDEA if this is true, but IF IT IS, then Blair put himself above the team to do it.

Think about it: do you know how many NBA players have played out this very scenario through summer league? Some worse, some better, some All-Stars, and so on. If he was so determined to prove the other teams were foolish for not drafting him because of his knees, WHY DEMAND A CONTRACT WITHOUT PLAYING ANOTHER GAME BECAUSE OF THOSE VERY SAME KNEES?!?!? AND AFTER ONLY 1 GAME?!?!?

Again, I don't know if it's true, but if it is, then Blair put himself above the team in doing this.

As I earlier, I'm still VERY GLAD to have Blair.

[Russ]

Everybody talks about how unlucky Blair was on draft day. But if Blair got more than late 1st Round pick money, he actually got very lucky in the draft.

He makes more in salary than he would have if he was drafted earlier and goes to the perfect team -- where he can play for big stakes in the spotlight right off the bat.

[Marcus Bryant]

As of last night, the deal the Spurs had on the table for Blair was similar. The sticking points were who had the option on the final year, what clauses would be included (weight clause, offseason workout clause) and if the Spurs would have any protection if something happens to his knees.

Hopefully McDonald can get specifics. :hungry:

Damn. That would be a contract starting with a $700K salary in 2009-10. Spurs would then be able to offer another $700K salary to someone using their MLE and still have the full LLE at their disposal.

[Ice009]

As of last night, the deal the Spurs had on the table for Blair was similar. The sticking points were who had the option on the final year, what clauses would be included (weight clause, offseason workout clause) and if the Spurs would have any protection if something happens to his knees.

Hopefully McDonald can get specifics. :hungry:

Did they use the MLE to sign him or LLE?

[poeticism707]

Everybody talks about how unlucky Blair was on draft day. But if Blair got more than late 1st Round pick money, he actually got very lucky in the draft.

He makes more in salary than he would have if he was drafted earlier and goes to the perfect team -- where he can play for big stakes in the spotlight right off the bat.

I agree completely.

[DPG21920]

No one knows for sure yet what the specifics are.

[Da Spurs]

Of course not. Why I suggested, is that thinking he's earned the right to sit out of Summer games until his contract is negotiated, is VERY FOCUSED ON SELF: ie selfish. He could have EASILY continued negotiations BEHIND THE SCENE, and NO ONE would have known about it. There would be no "swirling rumors" floating around the web.


He played the first game and showed them what he can do. The guy is a horse with no ACLs. He had to get his insurance in order and finalize his contract. I have absolutely NO PROBLEM with that. He's already guaranteed a spot on the team. Playing a summer league game for him is totally meaningless.

[Kori Ellis]

Of course not. Why I suggested, is that thinking he's earned the right to sit out of Summer games until his contract is negotiated, is VERY FOCUSED ON SELF: ie selfish. He could have EASILY continued negotiations BEHIND THE SCENE, and NO ONE would have known about it. There would be no "swirling rumors" floating around the web.

I'd be the first to say I have NO IDEA if this is true, but IF IT IS, then Blair put himself above the team to do it.

Think about it: do you know how many NBA players have played out this very scenario through summer league? Some worse, some better, some All-Stars, and so on. If he was so determined to prove the other teams were foolish for not drafting him because of his knees, WHY DEMAND A CONTRACT WITHOUT PLAYING ANOTHER GAME BECAUSE OF THOSE VERY SAME KNEES?!?!? AND AFTER ONLY 1 GAME?!?!?

Again, I don't know if it's true, but if it is, then Blair put himself above the team in doing this.

As I earlier, I'm still VERY GLAD to have Blair.

You keep rambling on and on about this same dumb point. Blair didn't want to sit out the game. He was planning on playing. The Spurs and his agent wanted him to sit out.

You really need to post less and read more.

[timvp]

Again, Blair didn't play a role in sitting. He didn't even know he was going to sit until they told him right before the game. His agent and Buford were close a contract before the game and they just changed his rest date so that they could go ahead and finish dotting the i's.

Blaming Blair when he had no idea what was happening makes no sense.

[DPG21920]

Sense. Evidently it is not common.

[Marcus Bryant]

Everybody talks about how unlucky Blair was on draft day. But if Blair got more than late 1st Round pick money, he actually got very lucky in the draft.

He makes more in salary than he would have if he was drafted earlier and goes to the perfect team -- where he can play for big stakes in the spotlight right off the bat.

$700K is less than the 30th pick's 1st year salary scale. (http://www.nbpa.org/cba_exhibits/exhibitB.php)

[ElNono]

I'm sorry I have to pull this card again so quickly, but...


This is ridiculous, and an OVERSIMPLIFICATION.

Did anyone suggest that Blair should play for free?!?!?

Of course not. Why I suggested, is that thinking he's earned the right to sit out of Summer games until his contract is negotiated, is VERY FOCUSED ON SELF: ie selfish. He could have EASILY continued negotiations BEHIND THE SCENE, and NO ONE would have known about it. There would be no "swirling rumors" floating around the web.

I'd be the first to say I have NO IDEA if this is true, but IF IT IS, then Blair put himself above the team to do it.

Think about it: do you know how many NBA players have played out this very scenario through summer league? Some worse, some better, some All-Stars, and so on. If he was so determined to prove the other teams were foolish for not drafting him because of his knees, WHY DEMAND A CONTRACT WITHOUT PLAYING ANOTHER GAME BECAUSE OF THOSE VERY SAME KNEES?!?!? AND AFTER ONLY 1 GAME?!?!?

Again, I don't know if it's true, but if it is, then Blair put himself above the team in doing this.

As I earlier, I'm still VERY GLAD to have Blair.

http://wa4.images.onesite.com/community.allhiphop.com/user/bigb86/thefuck.jpg

[DPG21920]

I think he was thinking theoretically MB...

[angelbelow]

This is ridiculous, and an OVERSIMPLIFICATION.

Did anyone suggest that Blair should play for free?!?!?

Of course not. Why I suggested, is that thinking he's earned the right to sit out of Summer games until his contract is negotiated, is VERY FOCUSED ON SELF: ie selfish. He could have EASILY continued negotiations BEHIND THE SCENE, and NO ONE would have known about it. There would be no "swirling rumors" floating around the web.

I'd be the first to say I have NO IDEA if this is true, but IF IT IS, then Blair put himself above the team to do it.

Think about it: do you know how many NBA players have played out this very scenario through summer league? Some worse, some better, some All-Stars, and so on. If he was so determined to prove the other teams were foolish for not drafting him because of his knees, WHY DEMAND A CONTRACT WITHOUT PLAYING ANOTHER GAME BECAUSE OF THOSE VERY SAME KNEES?!?!? AND AFTER ONLY 1 GAME?!?!?

Again, I don't know if it's true, but if it is, then Blair put himself above the team in doing this.

As I earlier, I'm still VERY GLAD to have Blair.

:lol:lol:lol:lol

What a funny outburst. Tell me, what would you do if you were in his position?

[scottspurs]

I hope the Spurs got a team option for a 3rd year in the deal.

[Agloco]

This is ridiculous, and an OVERSIMPLIFICATION.

Did anyone suggest that Blair should play for free?!?!?

Of course not. Why I suggested, is that thinking he's earned the right to sit out of Summer games until his contract is negotiated, is VERY FOCUSED ON SELF: ie selfish. He could have EASILY continued negotiations BEHIND THE SCENE, and NO ONE would have known about it. There would be no "swirling rumors" floating around the web.

I'd be the first to say I have NO IDEA if this is true, but IF IT IS, then Blair put himself above the team to do it.

Think about it: do you know how many NBA players have played out this very scenario through summer league? Some worse, some better, some All-Stars, and so on. If he was so determined to prove the other teams were foolish for not drafting him because of his knees, WHY DEMAND A CONTRACT WITHOUT PLAYING ANOTHER GAME BECAUSE OF THOSE VERY SAME KNEES?!?!? AND AFTER ONLY 1 GAME?!?!?

Again, I don't know if it's true, but if it is, then Blair put himself above the team in doing this.

As I earlier, I'm still VERY GLAD to have Blair.

Tell me youd do any different if you were in his position. His family's future is in the balance. I seriously doubt he cares what public perception is.

[celldweller]

I'm sorry I have to pull this card again so quickly, but...



http://wa4.images.onesite.com/community.allhiphop.com/user/bigb86/thefuck.jpg

Man, that is so funny!

[poeticism707]

:lol:lol:lol:lol

What a funny outburst. Tell me, what would you do if you were in his position?

Firstly, that wasn't an outburst.

Secondly, as I said, it would have been RIGHT if he'd just continued to negotiate behind the scenes. That's class.

But again, he's only 20 years old, so I understand perfectly well.

Also, as I STATED EMPHATICALLY, I have no idea if this rumor is true: if he really sat out in order to force the Spurs hand after only 1 SL GAME.

But if he did, then it was selfish, and he put himself above the team.

For the record: didn't you clearly state in an earlier post that he'd put himself above the team?!?

At any rate, as I also emphatically stated, I am very glad to officially have Blair on board.

[poeticism707]

Tell me youd do any different if you were in his position. His family's future is in the balance. I seriously doubt he cares what public perception is.

Friend: just because someone is famous, or an athlete, doesn't mean you should justify their wrong behavior.

[superbigtime]

I hope he feels like he was treated fairly by the FO because a good experience will make a lasting impression on him and help form a loyalty to the organization in future contract negotiations. I'm glad it was done expeditiously. :tu

[4RINGS]

Firstly, that wasn't an outburst.

Secondly, as I said, it would have been RIGHT if he'd just continued to negotiate behind the scenes. That's class.

But again, he's only 20 years old, so I understand perfectly well.

Also, as I STATED EMPHATICALLY, I have no idea if this rumor is true: if he really sat out in order to force the Spurs hand after only 1 SL GAME.

But if he did, then it was selfish, and he put himself above the team.

For the record: didn't you clearly state in an earlier post that he'd put himself above the team?!?

At any rate, as I also emphatically stated, I am very glad to officially have Blair on board.


He MAY have put himself above the team, but I do not see a problem with that because all NBA players are independent contractors, which means no contact no money. I am glad we paid the man and now he can play. Good job RC!!

[Mel_13]

Friend: just because someone is famous, or an athlete, doesn't mean you should justify their wrong behavior.

Behavior that you believe to be wrong.

Unsigned second round picks take a risk in playing summer league. See Patty Mills' situation:

4-6 Months of Inaction for Patty Mills

The Aussie PG will have his work cut out for him this season if he’s to have any hopes of making an NBA roster: “Pritchard said doctors inserted a screw to repair the foot and Mills is expected to miss four to six months. That eliminates any chance at a training camp invitation for Mills, but Pritchard refused to address his future with the team. The Blazers selected Mills with their last pick of last month’s draft, No.55 overall. ‘Feel really bad for the kid,’ Pritchard said. ‘He’s a great kid and a high-energy guy who came in looking to really make an impression on us. It was just an unfortunate accident.’”

http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2009/07/4-6-months-of-inaction-for-patty-mills/

It is unlikely he will get a pro contract anywhere until he has recovered from his injury.

[FromWayDowntown]

But if he did, then it was selfish, and he put himself above the team.

Aside from being based on an incorrect assumption (as Kori and timvp point out), I think the basis of your complaint is also absurd. He sat out of a summer league game -- one that counts for absolutely nothing. You are aware, aren't you, that absolutely none of what occurs in Las Vegas this week has any real bearing on the San Antonio Spurs' business, either competitively or economically.

Thus, even if Dejuan Blair was the guy who decided not to play in that meaningless summer league game -- and he wasn't -- such a decision was both inherently practical from his standpoint and in absolutely no regard selfish, given that the game that he missed means nothing to the Spurs.

This notion that players should be entirely altruistic and that players who take practical steps to protect themselves (steps that have no adverse impact on the team) are somehow to be questioned has reached absurd proportions.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I'm confused - didn't Dice get the full MLE for two years, 3rd year 50% guaranteed?

[exstatic]

I hope he feels like he was treated fairly by the FO because a good experience will make a lasting impression on him and help form a loyalty to the organization in future contract negotiations. I'm glad it was done expeditiously. :tu

Most lucky second rounders get one year guaranteed minimum and maybe a partial guarantee on year two. If they are real longshots, they get no guaranteed money at all. For falling out of the first round, Blair did real well.

[timvp]

I'm confused - didn't Dice get the full MLE for two years, 3rd year 50% guaranteed?

According to some sources on the internets, McDyess got less than the full MLE.

[exstatic]

I'm confused - didn't Dice get the full MLE for two years, 3rd year 50% guaranteed?

The latest reports are three full years, starting at a lesser figure. They money works out about the same.

[poeticism707]

Again, Blair didn't play a role in sitting. He didn't even know he was going to sit until they told him right before the game. His agent and Buford were close a contract before the game and they just changed his rest date so that they could go ahead and finish dotting the i's.

Blaming Blair when he had no idea what was happening makes no sense.

As I've said many times, though a few who keep trying to taunt and attack me don't even bother to read it, that I HAVE NO IDEA IF THIS PARTICULAR RUMOR ABOUT BLAIR SITTING UNTIL THE CONTRACT IS DONE IS TRUE.

I hope it isn't. But is is very possible. I've already my stance IF HE DID (which again, I don't know for sure, no more than someone can say with assurance that he didn't sit out for those reasons, especially as silently as the Spurs do business).

Anyway, as I've also said, Blair will be a great rebounder for the Spurs

[poeticism707]

Aside from being based on an incorrect assumption (as Kori and timvp point out), I think the basis of your complaint is also absurd. He sat out of a summer league game -- one that counts for absolutely nothing. You are aware, aren't you, that absolutely none of what occurs in Las Vegas this week has any real bearing on the San Antonio Spurs' business, either competitively or economically.

Thus, even if Dejuan Blair was the guy who decided not to play in that meaningless summer league game -- and he wasn't -- such a decision was both inherently practical from his standpoint and in absolutely no regard selfish, given that the game that he missed means nothing to the Spurs.

This notion that players should be entirely altruistic and that players who take practical steps to protect themselves (steps that have no adverse impact on the team) are somehow to be questioned has reached absurd proportions.


O really? Then why have a SL at all?

Why shouldn't players sit home and send videos of themselves shooting free trows?

If the players in the SL, most notably those who are NBA bound, have NO DUTY TO PARTICIPATE, why go at all? Why not just stay home, not go to practice, and not bother to tell the FO? After all, if the players have NO DUTY to attend and contribute, then certainly the players have NO DUTY to tell the FO the skipped something completely NON SPURS RELATED.

If you follow your logic through it's ultimate, and erroneous conclusion, then you will have a SL full of Allen Iverson's, all talking about "practice." And since the SL games are just "practice," then they'll skip those as well.

Then this tool, on the verge of being a great one for the Spurs, the Toros, becomes beyond useless.

In other words, friend, you are clearly mistaken. Practice matters: the SL matters.

[FromWayDowntown]

If you follow your logic through it's ultimate, and erroneous conclusion, then you will have a SL full of Allen Iverson's, all talking about "practice." And since the SL games are just "practice," then they'll skip those as well.

So the summer league games are something other than exhibitions that amount to glorified scrimmages? I suppose that if the Spurs entry in Vegas does well, the Spurs will actually start the 2009-10 season with an extra win or two?

[poeticism707]

So the summer league games are something other than exhibitions that amount to glorified scrimmages? I suppose that if the Spurs entry in Vegas does well, the Spurs will actually start the 2009-10 season with an extra win or two?

What you can do is cancel ALL THE DEVELOPMENT of the following players if they don't bother showing up for "practice":

-Ian Mahinimi, whose only been "practicing" for 4 years!

- Hairston, who has only practiced for 2 years at least!

-Hill, who has grown a lot in "practice."

-Blair, who maybe never gets a contract, without "practice."

-And many others.

So, following your logic, these players would lose their development, which would result in a loss of championship for the Spurs, as it is THESE PLAYERS who the Spurs depending on to pull their respective weight.

Again, you are mistaken, friend. Practice matters.

[Tully365]

Blue collar guy. About as likely to go to Europe as Rush Limbaugh.

Blair and the Spurs were made for each other.:flag:

:lol

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

According to some sources on the internets, McDyess got less than the full MLE.


The latest reports are three full years, starting at a lesser figure. They money works out about the same.

Thanks.

[montgod]

What you can do is cancel ALL THE DEVELOPMENT of the following players if they don't bother showing up for "practice":

-Ian Mahinimi, whose only been "practicing" for 4 years!

- Hairston, who has only practiced for 2 years at least!

-Hill, who has grown a lot in "practice."

-Blair, who maybe never gets a contract, without "practice."

-And many others.

So, following your logic, these players would lose their development, which would result in a loss of championship for the Spurs, as it THESE PLAYERS who the Spurs depending on to pull their respective weight.

Again, you are mistaken, friend. Practice matters.

Ian and Hill couldn't really be used in this comparison because both were first round picks with guaranteed contracts. They could play as much as they wanted in the SL or DL and still be fine if they were to have ever gotten injured.

In looking at any second rounder, their opportunity is basically to show a FO that they can play and garner a guaranteed contract. Since you used Malik in this comparison, he hasn't shown enough to do this in two years until now.

Blair is in a different situation. He was slated to be a top 15 draft pick. He went ahead and showed what he had in his first SL game and most likely saw what happened to Pat Mills and smartly decided to wait it out until a contract came. I believe he still wanted to play, but he has to think about his long term future and who will be taking care of him first.

A good example is Leon Powe with the Celtics. His contract was up and he got hurt on the last year of that contract. Celtics didn't offer him anything which means he has no income until he is healthy again. Powe and Mills are both good examples as to what could have happened to Blair and he smartly shut it down until his contract was finalized.

Another factor to take into consideration is that this is the SL... meaning that the teams consist of other players who are new to the league and are trying to make a team. Because of their desire to make a team and there newness to the league, it's even more important to secure a deal before playing in the SL. You would be more likely to get injured in a SL game then you would during the regular season where seasoned vets play.

I see what your point is involving a team first attitude, but you have to remember in order for him to have that attitude, he has to be secure in himself before anything. Having home taken care of has to be the first step in being part of a team. That way, there are no qualms or issues or questions as to what could or might happen. Now that the contract is done, he can go full throttle and play with nothing in the back of his mind about having to play half speed or careful about getting hurt.

I would rather see that type of player then one who is just going through the motions.

[K-State Spur]

I HAVE NO IDEA IF THIS PARTICULAR RUMOR ABOUT BLAIR SITTING UNTIL THE CONTRACT IS DONE IS TRUE.

...but that will not shut me up one iota just the same!

[FromWayDowntown]

Assuming (falsely) that contract negotiations had anything to do with Blair's absence, I don't see the harm in a player missing a practice to take care of the business side of his job. It's not as if missing one practice (I'll note, too, that it's one against a whole lot of guys who aren't going to play a second in the NBA) is going to retard Blair's growth. And it's not as if the Spurs were going to use Summer League games to determine Dejuan Blair's worthiness to be given a guaranteed contract. They had already committed themselves to Blair by announcing immediately after he was picked that they expected him to play 20 minutes per night in the coming season.

Again, my ultimate point here is that some draw some pretty strong conclusions (or at least some pretty strong inferences) about a player's commitment to the concept of team from some pretty weak evidence.

[Solid D]

Blair suited up and was in all the huddles for Game 2 versus the Nuggz. Imagine the nerve of that guy...suiting up like he was going to be playing. How selfish!!!

[raspsa]

I just glad he's signed for the duration. I'm guessing the Spurs are now much more familiar with his body.. probably stick him into all sorts of CAT scans, MRI machines.. the works.:lol

[2pac]

What you can do is cancel ALL THE DEVELOPMENT of the following players if they don't bother showing up for "practice":

-Ian Mahinimi, whose only been "practicing" for 4 years!

- Hairston, who has only practiced for 2 years at least!

-Hill, who has grown a lot in "practice."

-Blair, who maybe never gets a contract, without "practice."

-And many others.

So, following your logic, these players would lose their development, which would result in a loss of championship for the Spurs, as it is THESE PLAYERS who the Spurs depending on to pull their respective weight.

Again, you are mistaken, friend. Practice matters.

"We're talking about practice, man. I mean, how silly is that? We're talking about practice. I know I'm supposed to be there. I know I'm supposed to lead by example . . . I know it's important . . . I honestly do. But we're talking about practice, man. What are we talking about? Practice?"

[ehz33satx]

What you can do is cancel ALL THE DEVELOPMENT of the following players if they don't bother showing up for "practice":

-Ian Mahinimi, whose only been "practicing" for 4 years!

- Hairston, who has only practiced for 2 years at least!

-Hill, who has grown a lot in "practice."

-Blair, who maybe never gets a contract, without "practice."

-And many others.

So, following your logic, these players would lose their development, which would result in a loss of championship for the Spurs, as it is THESE PLAYERS who the Spurs depending on to pull their respective weight.

Again, you are mistaken, friend. Practice matters.

Weren't you told by Mrs. Kori Ellis herself to read more and to post less? You talk too damn much.

[Dex]

Some people just don't know when to quit when they are behind.

[Spurtacus]

Grizzly Blair!

[poeticism707]

Assuming (falsely) that contract negotiations had anything to do with Blair's absence, I don't see the harm in a player missing a practice to take care of the business side of his job. It's not as if missing one practice (I'll note, too, that it's one against a whole lot of guys who aren't going to play a second in the NBA) is going to retard Blair's growth. And it's not as if the Spurs were going to use Summer League games to determine Dejuan Blair's worthiness to be given a guaranteed contract. They had already committed themselves to Blair by announcing immediately after he was picked that they expected him to play 20 minutes per night in the coming season.

Again, my ultimate point here is that some draw some pretty strong conclusions (or at least some pretty strong inferences) about a player's commitment to the concept of team from some pretty weak evidence.

Friend: if you (or anyone else) bothered to notice:

I made NO INFERENCES: what I said is IF BLAIR HAS DONE THIS, THEN IT WAS WRONG BECAUSE OF THESE REASONS.

That is as cut and dry as it gets.

Did I say Blair did this? Did I STATE ANYWHERE that Blair has done this? I state OVER AND OVER that I don't know, but IF he did, it was wrong.

Seriously: not that I'm speaking to you in particular FromWayDownTown, but the group think on Spurs Talk is beyond CHILDISH.

But of course, a good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor a bad tree good fruit.

Neither can an immature tree bear mature fruit.

[montgod]

Friend: if you (or anyone else) bothered to notice:

I made NO INFERENCES: what said is IF BLAIR HAS DONE THIS, THEN IT WAS WRONG BECAUSE OF THESE REASONS.

That is as cut and dry as it gets.

Did I say Blair did this? Did I STATE ANYWHERE that Blair has done this? I state OVER AND OVER that I don't know, but IF he did, it was wrong.

Seriously: not that I'm speaking to you in particular FromWayDownTown, but the group think on Spurs Talk is beyond CHILDISH.

But of course, a good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor a bad tree good fruit.

Neither can an immature tree bear mature fruit.

But the point was that even IF he did do it because of contract reasons, he was still justified.

[poeticism707]

But the point was that even IF he did do it because of contract reasons, he was still justified.

IF THAT HAPPENED, then no, he wasn't friend.

At least, however, you are not calling me childish names and posting pics of curse words.

But supposedly I am responsible for these things, when I have cursed no one, have spoken no negativity against anyone, and only spoken the truth.

Disagreement I can deal with, and easily. I am ever ready to discuss like adults.

Childish taunts and curse words, I will ignore and bear without retort, rather than dignify such behavior with a response.

[montgod]

Of course not. Why I suggested, is that thinking he's earned the right to sit out of Summer games until his contract is negotiated, is VERY FOCUSED ON SELF: ie selfish. He could have EASILY continued negotiations BEHIND THE SCENE, and NO ONE would have known about it. There would be no "swirling rumors" floating around the web.

I'd be the first to say I have NO IDEA if this is true, but IF IT IS, then Blair put himself above the team to do it.

Think about it: do you know how many NBA players have played out this very scenario through summer league? Some worse, some better, some All-Stars, and so on. If he was so determined to prove the other teams were foolish for not drafting him because of his knees, WHY DEMAND A CONTRACT WITHOUT PLAYING ANOTHER GAME BECAUSE OF THOSE VERY SAME KNEES?!?!? AND AFTER ONLY 1 GAME?!?!?

Again, I don't know if it's true, but if it is, then Blair put himself above the team in doing this.



Just to completely understand your view, I have quoted your descriptive post of your reasons. The main point you are making is that he is being selfish IF he stopped playing because he didn't have a contract and is putting himself above the team.

Would selfish also be another word for being responsible, prepared, or smart? Because if he was hurt seriously, make no mistake, the same word, selfish would be used by the Spurs FO in being responsible, prepared, and smart in not signing Blair to a contract.

Similar case is everyone's favorite retread that is consistenly brought up...Javtokas. He got hurt, Spurs helped him out with his injuries, was not signed to a contract.

He could have played and continued negotiations, but still risked a serious injury with no possibility of a contract if that happened.


IF THAT HAPPENED, then no, he wasn't friend.

At least, however, you are not calling me childish names and posting pics of curse words.

But supposedly I am responsible for these things, when I have cursed no one, have spoken no negativity against anyone, and only spoken the truth.

Disagreement I can deal with, and easily. I am ever ready to discuss like adults.

Childish taunts and curse words, I will ignore and bear without retort, rather than dignify such behavior with a response.

So exactly, how is that being selfish in a negative sense IF he sat out for contract reasons? Did you read my previous posts? And how is he not justified for the reasons described?

Again, I would rather him not be worried about getting hurt and playing full throttle with a completed contract then to play half speed which makes him more apt to get injured especially against a bunch of SL players. That's the life of a second round pick.

[Milo]

poeticism707, I think your reasoning fails because you start from a false assumption: Blair is NOT part of the spurs team until he's got a contract.
Until then, he cannot not put himself above the team, as you said, since there's no "team", yet.

[poeticism707]

Just to completely understand your view, I have quoted your descriptive post of your reasons. The main point you are making is that he is being selfish IF he stopped playing because he didn't have a contract and is putting himself above the team.

Would selfish also be another word for being responsible, prepared, or smart? Because if he was hurt seriously, make no mistake, the same word, selfish would be used by the Spurs FO in being responsible, prepared, and smart in not signing Blair to a contract.

Similar case is everyone's favorite retread that is consistenly brought up...Javtokas. He got hurt, Spurs helped him out with his injuries, was not signed to a contract.

He could have played and continued negotiations, but still risked a serious injury with no possibility of a contract if that happened.



So exactly, how is that being selfish in a negative sense IF he sat out for contract reasons? Did you read my previous posts? And how is he not justified for the reasons described?

Friend: I made it very clear that IF Blair sat out for contract reasons, and used the media to force the Spurs hand, it was wrong. I also stated very clearly that IF this is the case, he could have EASILY told the Spurs his concerns in private, then there would be no swirling internet rumours.

See. The solution is very simple. But here I am, being bashed, when Tim Duncan, the cornerstone of the Spurs franchise, has always been a class act, has never used the media for leverage, and even took less money than he deserved so that the Spurs could continue to be contenders. If Duncan, of all players can do this, then everyone else can fall in line.

As, I stated before, IF THIS IS THE CASE WITH BLAIR, meaning I have no idea one way or another. However, since I've made this statement VIRTUALLY everytime I've posted, and it's been completely ignored and my words twisted, I'm sure it will be ignored in this response as well (not necessarily by you, mont).

[Thompson]

Imagine the position he'd be in if he suffered a career-ending injury while playing for free. He passed on his senior year in college, and he'd be missing out on at least a million dollars, if not multiple millions. Even though he didn't choose to sit out because of contract issues, I think he would have been fully justified if he did. This is not an issue of selfishness, it's good business sense (this is his profession, after all).

[poeticism707]

poeticism707, I think your reasoning fails because you start from a false assumption: Blair is NOT part of the spurs team until he's got a contract.
Until then, he cannot not put himself above the team, as you said, since there's no "team", yet.

This reasoning is not sound friend: the moment the Spurs drafted Blair, he was a part of the team.

Or else, why can't another team sign him, then? Because the Spurs OWN HIS RIGHTS, CORRECT?

And why is that? Because he is now a part of the Spurs team. Just because his reaching the "inner circle" hadn't happened yet, was a mere formality because most drafted players are not signed until the late summer or fall.

Also: on a subjective note, why was Blair so thankful and appreciative of the Spurs drafting him, of taking a chance on him?

It's because he's now apart of the team.

[angelbelow]

Firstly, that wasn't an outburst.

Secondly, as I said, it would have been RIGHT if he'd just continued to negotiate behind the scenes. That's class.

But again, he's only 20 years old, so I understand perfectly well.

Also, as I STATED EMPHATICALLY, I have no idea if this rumor is true: if he really sat out in order to force the Spurs hand after only 1 SL GAME.

But if he did, then it was selfish, and he put himself above the team.

For the record: didn't you clearly state in an earlier post that he'd put himself above the team?!?

At any rate, as I also emphatically stated, I am very glad to officially have Blair on board.

Yes I did, and I am OKAY with that, why? because he's putting his family first.

Also, although many posters have said this, Blair himself did not want to sit out, the hold out came as a shock to him. It's not like he twittered "no money no game."

The media has eyes and ears everywhere. He in no way, used the media to try to leverage a contract.

Finally, the deal seemed to get done rather quickly, which likely signifies that this deal was already in the works before the media found out about it.

[poeticism707]

Imagine the position he'd be in if he suffered a career-ending injury while playing for free. He passed on his senior year in college, and he'd be missing out on at least a million dollars, if not multiple millions. Even though he didn't choose to sit out because of contract issues, I think he would have been fully justified if he did. This is not an issue of selfishness, it's good business sense (this is his profession, after all).

As I've said many times prior, friend: IF BLAIR DID THIS (I don't know, clearly), then the easiest thing for him to do would've been to just communicate his concerns to the FO in private, then there would be no rumors or guesswork. That is the simplest and classiest solution: the RIGHT SOLUTION.

Again, this is all hypothetical, as I have no idea if Blair did this or not.

[angelbelow]

Additionally, you keep saying that he sound keep his concerns private, I'm sure he tried, but his management team perhaps did not.

Rumors usually start because some journalist is trying to get payed.

[poeticism707]

Yes I did, and I am OKAY with that, why? because he's putting his family first.

Also, although many posters have said this, Blair himself did not want to sit out, the hold out came as a shock to him. It's not like he twittered "no money no game."

The media has eyes and ears everywhere. He in no way, used the media to try to leverage a contract.

Finally, the deal seemed to get done rather quickly, which likely signifies that this deal was already in the works before the media found out about it.

Friend: I was not accusing you. I was only stating that the obvious is just that, the obvious.

Also, I've stated many times that Blair could have told the FO his concerns, and done this all in private, which would've been best.

Lastly, I've said so many times that I ought to just copy and paste it, I HAVE NO IDEA IF BLAIR DID THIS. I don't work for the Spurs FO, and I'm not DeJaun Blair. So, I'm not saying he did it, but that IF he did, it was wrong, and much better ways to handle it (one on which I just listed).

By the way, thanks for responding without curse words and taunts. Seriously: that is going around a lot, it seems.

[poeticism707]

Additionally, you keep saying that he sound keep his concerns private, I'm sure he tried, but his management team perhaps did not.

Rumors usually start because some journalist is trying to get payed.

You're absolutely right. And it could have been his Agent for all any of us know.

Which is my point: whoever did it, it was WRONG.

Which is why I've been saying from the BEGINNING that IF Blair did it, it's wrong, meaning if someone else did it, it's still wrong (for whoever did it, if it wasn't Blair).

[angelbelow]

Friend: I was not accusing you. I was only stating that the obvious is just that, the obvious.

Also, I've stated many times that Blair could have told the FO his concerns, and done this all in private, which would've been best.

Lastly, I've said so many times that I ought to just copy and paste it, I HAVE NO IDEA IF BLAIR DID THIS. I don't work for the Spurs FO, and I'm not DeJaun Blair. So, I'm not saying he did it, but that IF he did, it was wrong, and much better ways to handle it (one on which I just listed).

By the way, thanks for responding without curse words and taunts. Seriously: that is going around a lot, it seems.

I know, you say this in every post, but my question is, if you don't know why are you still discussing this matter?

[montgod]

Additionally, you keep saying that he sound keep his concerns private, I'm sure he tried, but his management team perhaps did not.

Rumors usually start because some journalist is trying to get payed.

I agree. I don't think it was Blair's purpose or objective to use the press in order to help his contract negotiations. His actions have proven this in how he still suited up for the second SL game and even participated in the huddles during the game.

It's not like he was caught on tape or Youtube like Jennings mouthing off, but has genuinely been professional and pleasant in all his inteviews that I have heard or read.

[poeticism707]

I know, you say this in every post, but my question is, if you don't know why are you still discussing this matter?

As I said, IF Blair, his agent, a media person, or whoever, did this, it was wrong.

As to why I'm still discussing this still, please read all the other posts, and see how I've been wrongly treated by many posters, when I have spoken no evil against anyone, cursed no one, called no one out, but these things were done to me.

Quite simply, Spurs Talk is better than such terrible and wrong behavior. At least I hope it is.

[poeticism707]

I agree. I don't think it was Blair's purpose or objective to use the press in order to help his contract negotiations. His actions have proven this in how he still suited up for the second SL game and even participated in the huddles during the game.

It's not like he was caught on tape or Youtube like Jennings mouthing off, but has genuinely been professional and pleasant in all his inteviews that I have heard or read.

I agree completely. I have NEVER ONCE indicted Blair. I have only said that it is very possible that someone did something wrong, and could have handled it much better. I never once said it was Blair, only that is was possible.

Furthermore, I was elated when the Spurs drafted Blair, and wasn't surprised at the success in the SL. I am glad he's a Spur.

[whottt]

when I have spoken no evil against anyone, cursed no one, called on one out, but these things were done to me.

Quite simply, Spurs Talk is better than such terrible and wrong behavior. At least I hope it is.



:lmao

You're kidding right? :lol

[angelbelow]

As I said, IF Blair, his agent, a media person, or whoever, did this, it was wrong.

As to why I'm still discussing this still, please read all the other posts, and see how I've been wrongly treated by many posters, when I have spoken no evil against anyone, cursed no one, called on one out, but these things were done to me.

Quite simply, Spurs Talk is better than such terrible and wrong behavior. At least I hope it is.

Just ignore them, there are plenty of assholes here, often including myself.

[montgod]

:lmao

You're kidding right? :lol

The language and signatures on here have always been totally professional. :rolleyes

[Blackjack]

:peekingthroughfingers

Is it over yet?

[poeticism707]

Just ignore them, there are plenty of assholes here, often including myself.

I hope we may all treat every human being with the class and dignity we'd want our very selves treated with.

You posted most fairly, friend, and I will not forget it.

[Thompson]

Quite simply, Spurs Talk is better than such terrible and wrong behavior. At least I hope it is.

Some people were just defending Blair. Spurs Talk isn't better than such behavior; there are a lot of rude people around. One of the costs of allowing people free reign is that some of them may be impolite. You have to get used to it.

[poeticism707]

:peekingthroughfingers

Is it over yet?

BlackJack!!!

Always a pleasure friend! A classy fellow (or person) if ever there was one!

I'm sorry any of this took place at all, and I may very well be banned in the morning for arguments I did not start, and insults I did not use, and curses I did not write or in any way bring up against others. But it will not be the first time I have experienced such things, nor likely the last.

Anyway! How are you friend? What do you think about all of this? Whether you agree or disagree, is fine of course, but I know you will be fair and classy about the matter.

[poeticism707]

Some people were just defending Blair. Spurs Talk isn't better than such behavior; there are a lot of rude people around. One of the costs of allowing people free reign is that some of them may be impolite. You have to get used to it.

You are most correct: there are some quality arguments in this thread, and that I have no problem with. I am ever prepared to discuss these things.

But the childishness, the pettiness, I have a problem with, whether it was directed toward me, or anyone else.

[Thompson]

I'm sorry any of this took place at all, and I may very well be banned in the morning for arguments I did not start, and insults I did not use, and curses I did not write or in any way bring up against others. But it will not be the first time I have experienced such things, nor likely the last.


I doubt you'll get banned; as I said earlier they seem to give everyone pretty free reign in here. It has its positives and negatives, but one of the positives is you have to really try hard to get banned. I was banned from the 'other' Spurs fan website for daring to argue with a moderator (no profanity or anything). Here you don't really have to worry about it.

[jjktkk]

so what do i do with this Panic Button now?Return it to Staples? :toast

[poeticism707]

I doubt you'll get banned; as I said earlier they seem to give everyone pretty free reign in here. It has its positives and negatives, but one of the positives is you have to really try hard to get banned. I was banned from the 'other' Spurs fan website for daring to argue with a moderator (no profanity or anything). Here you don't really have to worry about it.

I was already banned for a day for something even more trivial than that from Spurs Talk.

But there is little need do discuss it. The fairness here is an illusion, as such, I don't expect fairness here.

[Blackjack]

BlackJack!!!

Always a pleasure friend! A classy fellow (or person) if ever there was one!

I'm sorry any of this took place at all, and I may very well be banned in the morning for arguments I did not start, and insults I did not use, and curses I did not write or in any way bring up against others. But it will not be the first time I have experienced such things, nor likely the last.

Anyway! How are you friend? What do you think about all of this? Whether you agree or disagree, is fine of course, but I know you will be fair and classy about the matter.

Blair's agent and team did what was right by him and I find no fault with DeJuan.

Rumors get out from time-to-time without a plant, and I'm pretty confident that's what took place.

DeJuan, as has been mentioned, fully intended to play but with the parties on the verge of a contractual agreement, the Spurs figured he might as well sit out while the final I's were dotted and T's were crossed.

Blair, not unlike other SL prospects, was going to sit out a game or two for SL in an effort to get a better look at some of the lesser knowns, so it's likely this scenario could have played out without a contractual dispute.

Bottom line, the kid's signed, the Spurs and Blair are better for it, and hopefully his health remains a non-issue for the remainder of his career.

Basically, no harm no foul..(And agreeing to disagree, at some point, is probably a good way to avoid being K_B_P-ed;))

[poeticism707]

Blair's agent and team did what was right by him and I find no fault with DeJuan.

Rumors get out from time-to-time without a plant, and I'm pretty confident that's what took place.

DeJuan, as has been mentioned, fully intended to play but with the parties on the verge of a contractual agreement, the Spurs figured he might as well sit out while the final I's were dotted and T's were crossed.

Blair, not unlike other SL prospects, was going to sit out a game or two for SL in an effort to get a better look at some of the lesser knowns, so it's likely this scenario could have played out without a contractual dispute.

Bottom line, the kid's signed, the Spurs and Blair are better for it, and hopefully his health remains a non-issue for the remainder of his career.

Basically, no harm no foul..(And agreeing to disagree, at some point, is probably a good way to avoid being K_B_P-ed;))

As you've probably already read the posts, then you know I never said that Blair did ANYTHING WRONG: only that someone did, and that it is possible that it was him, meaning it could have been a agent or media person for twisting something, etc.

Yes, I too am very glad Blair is now OFFICIALLY signed as a Spur! I think he will do just what everyone thought: mostly rebound LIKE A MANIAC!

His energy will be very welcome.

As for being KBPed, I think I will be treated worse, or banned altogether pretty soon.

Unfortunately, that is just the way of things.

[Thompson]

Was KBP banned, or are you just talking about the pinking thing? I'm curious, was it a straw-that-broke-the-camel's-back thing, or did he do something really out there?

[timvp]

I was already banned for a day for something even more trivial than that from Spurs Talk.

But there is little need do discuss it. The fairness here is an illusion, as such, I don't expect fairness here.

:violin

Posting a thread, seeing it get merged into another thread, posting the thread again, starting a call-out thread, posting the original thread again and then aiming a rant at Kori got you suspended for all of about 12 hours.

You need to either raise your game. Seriously. Take a step back. Stop the random caps lock. Take a deep breath, read more and elevate your posting skills.

Either that or go to SpursReport.

[timvp]

As for being KBPed, I think I will be treated worse, or banned altogether pretty soon.

Unfortunately, that is just the way of things.

Name one person who has been banned in the last year. Even trolls usually figure out how to post on SpursTalk without ruining threads ... like you did this one.

[poeticism707]

:violin

Posting a thread, seeing it get merged into another thread, posting the thread again, starting a call-out thread, posting the original thread again and then aiming a rant at Kori got you suspended for all of about 12 hours.

You need to either raise your game. Seriously. Take a step back. Stop the random caps lock. Take a deep breath, read more and elevate your posting skills.

Either that or go to SpursReport.

Friend: do you even know what I said to the person you mentioned?

That person responded rudely to someone else, and I quoted this person, and said that the other person was only offering constructive criticism, and that there was no need to be rude.

Then, I was banned. As for posting two threads, I did not even know what happened to it at first. I thought I wasn't specific enough with the wording, to make it clear that the thread was going in a completely different direction. As for the "call out thread," I simply posted that I wanted to know why my threads disappeared or merged, when their were far more pointless and silly threads on the 1st page.

Those are the facts, friend. But you may do with them as you will.

[Blackjack]

Was KBP banned, or are you just talking about the pinking thing? I'm curious, was it a straw-that-broke-the-camel's-back thing, or did he do something really out there?

Just pinked that I'm aware of but that's only part of being K_B_P-ed..

K_B_P actually has moments where he contributes to the board and discussion but because of his incessant babbling and persecution complex, he's widely dismissed.

It's not a good look, if you're hoping to be taken seriously.

[timvp]

Friend: do you even know what I said to the person you mentioned?

That person responded rudely to someone else, and I quoted this person, and said that the other person was only offering constructive criticism, and that there was no need to be rude.

Then, I was banned. As for posting two threads, I did not even know what happened to it at first. I thought I wasn't specific enough with the wording, to make it clear that the thread was going in a completely different direction.

Those are the facts, friend. But you may do with them as you will.

Friend:


You need to either raise your game. Seriously. Take a step back. Stop the random caps lock. Take a deep breath, read more and elevate your posting skills.

Either that or go to SpursReport.

[poeticism707]

Friend:

Friend: I assure you, I am who I am. If I am doing something wrong, then show me, and I'll correct it.

If I am doing nothing wrong, then I will not change my behavior, not for the world, not for all of the gold in Ft. Knox, and especially not for Spurs Talk.

[timvp]

If I am doing something wrong, then show me, and I'll correct it.

Friend:


You need to either raise your game. Seriously. Take a step back. Stop the random caps lock. Take a deep breath, read more and elevate your posting skills.

Either that or go to SpursReport.

[montgod]

Friend: I assure you, I am who I am. If I am doing something wrong, then show me, and I'll correct it.

If I am doing nothing wrong, then I will not change my behavior, not for the world, not for all of the gold in Ft. Knox, and especially not for Spurs Talk.

I will change for this amount of gold :rollin

[poeticism707]

Friend:

Friend: if I were of the world, and the things of the world, then Spurs Talk would love me. For as I am coming to see, Spurs Talk is mindful of worldly things.

But since I am not of this world, the world hates me, and so does Spurs talk, because I am not of the children of the world.

Those words are more real than you know, friend.

And I here I thought that I could come here and discuss Spurs basketball. It was not Spurs Talk that is foolish, but it is me: for thinking I could have ANY PLACE AT ALL HERE, even to do something as silly as talk about Spurs basketball.

In this you are most correct: I do not belong here.

[poeticism707]

I will change for this amount of gold :rollin
:king

[timvp]

Friend: if I were of the world, and the things of the world, then Spurs Talk would love me. For as I am coming to see, Spurs Talk is mindful of worldly things.

But since I am not of this world, the world hates me, and so does Spurs talk, because I am not of the children of the world.

Those words are more real than you know, friend.

And I here I thought that I could come here and discuss Spurs basketball. It was not Spurs Talk that is foolish, but it is me: for thinking I could have ANY PLACE AT ALL HERE, even to do something as silly as talk about Spurs basketball.

In this you are most correct: I do not belong here.

Wow. Mookie has competition for LVP.

[FireDavidStern]

As this thread was hijacked with an argument that demeaned all those who participated in it, which might have caused me to missed something, am i correct in assuming that no one has heard any specific details about the contract.

[timvp]

As this thread was hijacked with an argument that demeaned all those who participated in it, which might have caused me to missed something, am i correct in assuming that no one has heard any specific details about the contract.

Correct. I haven't seen anything that the contract has officially been signed.

[GSH]

If I am doing nothing wrong, then I will not change my behavior, not for the world, not for all of the gold in Ft. Knox.

Would you do it to keep people from thinking you're an asshole?

That's not an indictment. It's not like I'M saying "you're an asshole". I'm not even saying that other people necessarily think you're an asshole. It's just a rumor, and I don't know if it's true. I'm just saying that IF YOU DID SOMETHING TO MAKE PEOPLE THINK YOU'RE AN ASSHOLE, THAT WOULD BE BAD.

Don't get me wrong. I never said you were an asshole, or that you ever did anything to make people think "you're an asshole". I'm just saying IF. That would mean THERE MIGHT BE A BETTER WAY OF HANDLING THIS. I mean, isn't it SELFISH of YOU to put yourself above the TEAM of people who post here, by BEHAVING LIKE AN ASSHOLE? And by saying you won't "CHANGE your BEHAVIOR", aren't you being a lot like Blair and his agent? In the rumor, I mean. You should be FALLING INTO LINE, and BEING PART OF THE TEAM.

Friend: I'm not bashing you. I NEVER ONCE said that you are an asshole. I'm just saying that it's very possible that SOMEONE acted like one. It could have been "someone else". I can't really tell... I have this mote in my eye, so I don't want to cast the first stone.


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[koriwhat]

BLAIR IS A BEAST! :)

http://www.zshare.net/video/6272737236af9f03/
http://www.zshare.net/video/627310326c0f39f6/

[whottt]

Friend: if I were of the world, and the things of the world, then Spurs Talk would love me. For as I am coming to see, Spurs Talk is mindful of worldly things.

But since I am not of this world, the world hates me, and so does Spurs talk, because I am not of the children of the world.

Those words are more real than you know, friend.

And I here I thought that I could come here and discuss Spurs basketball. It was not Spurs Talk that is foolish, but it is me: for thinking I could have ANY PLACE AT ALL HERE, even to do something as silly as talk about Spurs basketball.

In this you are most correct: I do not belong here.


The reason it's so funny is because of every forum on the internet, in the entire world, Spurs Talk is just about the last place to go if you don't want to be told you suck when you suck.

How you arrived at the conclusion you did is beyond me, I can only conclude you haven't read the forum very much.

Seriously, it's every other forum on the internet that is above that sort of behavioir, except this one.

That is the entire point.

Be as polite as you want, others are, but you are in for a long, hard time if you expect everyone else to conform to that behavior. And if your basketball takes reveal you to be somewhat clueless people here are going to let you know.

It's for you own good really.

[koriwhat]

poeticJesus... haha!

it is not you who shames me: it is i. ah ha ha ha!!

[timvp]

I've been banned. Twice. Not that I'm complaining whatsoever, but I just find this sort of funny is all.

:lol You asked to be ban.

"Please ban me. I'll never be back!"

[coopdogg3]

Would you do it to keep people from thinking you're an asshole?

That's not an indictment. It's not like I'M saying "you're an asshole". I'm not even saying that other people necessarily think you're an asshole. It's just a rumor, and I don't know if it's true. I'm just saying that IF YOU DID SOMETHING TO MAKE PEOPLE THINK YOU'RE AN ASSHOLE, THAT WOULD BE BAD.

Don't get me wrong. I never said you were an asshole, or that you ever did anything to make people think "you're an asshole". I'm just saying IF. That would mean THERE MIGHT BE A BETTER WAY OF HANDLING THIS. I mean, isn't it SELFISH of YOU to put yourself above the TEAM of people who post here, by BEHAVING LIKE AN ASSHOLE? And by saying you won't "CHANGE your BEHAVIOR", aren't you being a lot like Blair and his agent? In the rumor, I mean. You should be FALLING INTO LINE, and BEING PART OF THE TEAM.

Friend: I'm not bashing you. I NEVER ONCE said that you are an asshole. I'm just saying that it's very possible that SOMEONE acted like one. It could have been "someone else". I can't really tell... I have this mote in my eye, so I don't want to cast the first stone.


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OK, as much as I'm disliking a valid threat turning into a mound of garbage - this made me laugh. Well done.

:rollin

[Buddy Holly]

Holy shit, did SpursReport ban somemore MODs or posters? Jesus that Poeticism dipshit is annoying.

[Muser]

He's not too bad, just gets freakin' annoying when you get this in nearly all his posts.

:wow:toast:lol:downspin::bang:hat:lmao:rollin:nope :blah

I mean damn I don't mind people doing it a few times, but when 90% of your posts are just one smilie it gets annoying


As for Blair is there any more news?

[benefactor]

Friend: if I were of the world, and the things of the world, then Spurs Talk would love me. For as I am coming to see, Spurs Talk is mindful of worldly things.

But since I am not of this world, the world hates me, and so does Spurs talk, because I am not of the children of the world.

Those words are more real than you know, friend.

And I here I thought that I could come here and discuss Spurs basketball. It was not Spurs Talk that is foolish, but it is me: for thinking I could have ANY PLACE AT ALL HERE, even to do something as silly as talk about Spurs basketball.

In this you are most correct: I do not belong here.
From one Christian to another...stop it...please...you are embarrassing us.

[mountainballer]

As for Blair is there any more news?

I lost track.
did he really sign in Greece for 3 years and 73 million?

[completely deck]

ahem. Well I'm sure we'll hear something by the end of the day :toast

[RobinsontoDuncan]

Friend: do you even know what I said to the person you mentioned?

That person responded rudely to someone else, and I quoted this person, and said that the other person was only offering constructive criticism, and that there was no need to be rude.

Then, I was banned. As for posting two threads, I did not even know what happened to it at first. I thought I wasn't specific enough with the wording, to make it clear that the thread was going in a completely different direction. As for the "call out thread," I simply posted that I wanted to know why my threads disappeared or merged, when their were far more pointless and silly threads on the 1st page.

Those are the facts, friend. But you may do with them as you will.

Dude you're retarded. TIMvp and Kori run spurstalk. Grow The Fuck Up

edit: What the fuck is up with all the annoying Laker trolls and the retarded newbies? I really miss the forum from 5 years ago when less people posted here and the collective board IQ was soooo much higher.

[coyotes_geek]

Awesome news! Glad Blair is officially on board.


I'm confused - didn't Dice get the full MLE for two years, 3rd year 50% guaranteed?

That was the speculation, but it looks like the Spurs got clever and got Dyess to sign a deal where his cap figure in the 1st year did not use all the MLE. Teams are allowed to take up to 20% of the contract value and pay it as a signing bonus in the first year without that bonus affecting the number that counts against the cap. The Spurs probably took the money Dyess wanted to be paid over 2 years, spread it out over a 3 year contract to drop the 1st year salary below the MLE and then gave him a signing bonus. Pretty slick cap maneuvering by RC if that's actually how it went down.

[SpursChampsIII]

there's already a thread on this

http://www.spursreport.com/forums/spurs-nba-fan-feedback/72467-blair-signs-contract.html

:lol

I see, so you post to say the post about Blair is already posted.

[timvp]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131393