How did Steve Kerr manage to screw up so badly? [Archive]

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Kamnik

07-16-2009, 09:06 AM

He is approaching legendary level if he keeps it up imo.

Since he took over as a GM he managed to go from a contending team with a lot of All-star level players with great individual talent to a team that probably will not see playoffs for years to come.

I almost feel bad for all the good Phoenix fans. (I am sure they are somewhere out there; not many on this board)

If he does not make some trades quickly his starting five next year will look like this:

PG: Steve Nash - One of the most overrated players of all times. Possibly the worst defensive PG in the league who is rapidly regresing and loosing any trade value left.

SG: Barbosa - A nice energy player but he really is not created to be a starting player. As Phoenix depth is really bad he will probably be forced to start.

SF: Jason Richardson - He can put up some nice stats but he is not a type of player that can lead a team to a victory. Can't expect much consistency or defence by him.

PF: Amare - Once regarded as one of the best and most talented players in the league has injury problems; he has a low basketball IQ and mainly uses his athleticism to get anything done.

C: Robin Lope - Still very very raw player who can be a good role player one day if he keeps working hard. And that time is probably a couple of years away. But a starting center in the NBA next season? Hardly...

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Bottom line... I feel Kerr is cementing his place as the worst GM in the NBA right now. :toast

DUNCANownsKOBE2

07-16-2009, 09:20 AM

He took over a team that was doomed. I certainly won't be mad if Kerr is fired, but once the Suns lost in 2007, that team needed a Pau Gasol type trade or they were done. I don't blame Kerr for not being able to make a Pau Gasol type trade. Any GM hired would have sucked because they would have had to listen to Sarver who is too egotistical and stubborn to accept the fact he knows nothing about basketball.

spurs opsman

07-16-2009, 09:33 AM

:downspin:Yeah as a General Manager he's a great three point specialist!

Culburn369

07-16-2009, 09:35 AM

He got "Nashed."

DUNCANownsKOBE2

07-16-2009, 09:36 AM

He got "Nashed."

:lmao

Dex

07-16-2009, 10:00 AM

Kerr is still secretly working as a covert agent for the Spurs. Once he has completely obliterated the Suns franchise and his collusion is complete, he will resign and find a comfy assistant position in San Antonio. :lol

Spursmania

07-16-2009, 10:29 AM

Gervin44Silas13

07-16-2009, 10:30 AM

Cause he sucks as a GM!

Why So Serious

07-16-2009, 10:31 AM

he is working for the spurs llol

Muser

07-16-2009, 10:43 AM

Steve Kerr is one of the greatest people to ever live. :toast

sandman

07-16-2009, 10:54 AM

Euro fan mad at NBA team because they don't treat Euro player at best asset.

There are like three or four of you guys on this site that I have to look at the team being referenced to tell your posts apart.

JamStone

07-16-2009, 10:59 AM

Narcissism.

Great segue.

iggypop123

07-16-2009, 11:58 AM

he didnt do anything wrong. the suns were never a championship team. he just started rebuilding earlier than fans wanted

Malice

07-16-2009, 12:06 PM

I agree with Iggy. This team never had a commitment to anything, BUT running and gunning. The biggest collection of shot first, ask questions later players on one team. This is the result you get. I cant blame Kerr for trying to change the defensive attitude of that team, but its a lost cause.

coyotes_geek

07-16-2009, 12:12 PM

Kerr got caught between an owner more worried about the bottom line than winning and his own flawed belief that he could transform the Suns from the DAntoni culture to the Popovich culture overnight.

DUNCANownsKOBE2

07-16-2009, 12:21 PM

he didnt do anything wrong. The suns were never a championship team. He just started rebuilding earlier than fans wanted

+24789214790412

SonOfAGun

07-16-2009, 01:22 PM

Mission Accomplished Kerr.

It is now time to move onto replacing Phil Jackson.

Proceed.

ElNono

07-16-2009, 01:26 PM

http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2009/7/16/951466/the-unofficially-official-phoenix

Mr. Body

07-16-2009, 01:34 PM

All the real mistakes were done before his watch.

The real turning point was letting Joe Johnson go - or trading him - instead of getting rid of Marion earlier. They had too many huge contracts and held tight-fisted to them too long, having to sell off their draft picks to keep a firmer financial line.

The Shaq trade didn't work but that was a semi-last gasp.

TDMVPDPOY

07-16-2009, 01:35 PM

is steve kerr, isiah thomas disciple? 2 of the worst gms in history...

rjv

07-16-2009, 01:56 PM

to be fair, amare has had injuries and a portion of that team is also overrated. add to that,d'antoni's inability to get a team to play defense and you have a bad environment to work in.

but kerr has made his fair share of mistakes, including bringing in shaq and getting rid of terry porter.

vicphoenix13

07-16-2009, 04:58 PM

He is approaching legendary level if he keeps it up imo.

PG: Steve Nash - One of the most overrated players of all times. Possibly the worst defensive PG in the league who is rapidly regresing and loosing any trade value left.

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Bottom line... I feel Kerr is cementing his place as the worst GM in the NBA right now. :toast

Yeah, Nash is just a terrible point guard. How can any team live with a guy who shot over 50 percent from the field, 40 percent from three and 90 percent from the line last season. His 16 ppg and 10 apg aren't even top 10 in the league are they?

cobbler

07-16-2009, 05:21 PM

The let Joe go. They traded draft picks for cash and Sarver took control before Kerr took the reigns. Limiting his capabilities were the combined penny pinching of sarver along with Nash's undermining tactics. He was trying to put an emphasis on what it takes to win playoff basketball and chose a coach to implement it. Those are mindsets and game plans that take a season or two to accomplish. It just was't fun enough for the Nashtites. They staged a mutiny and Kerr was left with a lose-lose situation.

Certainly, Kerr must accept some of the responsibility, but Sarver and Nash hold the majority...IMO

cobbler

07-16-2009, 05:22 PM

Yeah, Nash is just a terrible point guard. How can any team live with a guy who shot over 50 percent from the field, 40 percent from three and 90 percent from the line last season. His 16 ppg and 10 apg aren't even top 10 in the league are they?

Those 16 don't mean squat if your giving up 32!:bang

DUNCANownsKOBE2

07-16-2009, 05:31 PM

Those 16 don't mean squat if your giving up 32!:bang

cobbler speaks da troof.

DUNCANownsKOBE2

07-16-2009, 05:33 PM

shot over 50 percent from the field, 40 percent from three and 90 percent

:lmao

You Steve Nash sissy cuckolds sure love to milk that overrated 50 40 90 stat for all it's worth and then some.

angelbelow

07-16-2009, 05:34 PM

I strongly believe that the Suns were fucked either way.

Chillen

07-16-2009, 05:39 PM

Kerr, he tried to get them to play defense with the Shaq trade and it flopped. He has made some moves that didn't help the team. They could never beat the Spurs in the playoffs because they were a more offensive minded ballclub. The Spurs had an answer for them, defense. They had a legit shot at winning it all in 2006 and lost to the Dallas Mavericks in the WCF, that was their year and they couldn't get the job done.

They might be a playoff team again, but I think they are no longer legit contenders. If they have a good season and make the playoffs they could still give teams trouble.

DUNCANownsKOBE2

07-16-2009, 05:45 PM

They had a legit shot at winning it all in 2006 and lost to the Dallas Mavericks in the WCF, that was their year and they couldn't get the job done.

If Amare was healthy the Suns win it all in 2006.

And their year was 2007. If they couldn't get it done in 2007 with the current group, they weren't going to get it done period.

mojorizen7

07-16-2009, 06:34 PM

Kerr got caught between an owner more worried about the bottom line than winning and his own flawed belief that he could transform the Suns from the DAntoni culture to the Popovich culture overnight.

That and he got "Nashed" like Culbern said.
The disgusting thing is that the majority of the SUNS fan base is buying this "We're going to be competitive" rhetoric from the FO.
Just mention the term's SSOL or Nash is back and these ignorant fans just get wet in the crotch.
Kerr's intentions were solid upon arrival,my guess is that he's going to want out after this season. Sarver selling would the best thing that could ever happen to Kerr....and the team obviously.

mojorizen7

07-16-2009, 06:42 PM

If Amare was healthy the Suns win it all in 2006.

And their year was 2007. If they couldn't get it done in 2007 with the current group, they weren't going to get it done period.

That 2006 team was probably the most physically exausted team to ever reach the WCF. Losing Amare was huge obviously but again, a flawed system of running your guys into the ground,short rotation and no depth.
Its no coincidence that many SSOL injuries to Bell,Hill,Nash slowing down etc...happened late in the season.
But you know all of this already DOK.

Personally i think the '07 team was the best team DA put out there....mentally crippled, but in terms of talent that was a very good team.

La Peace

07-16-2009, 06:45 PM

I liked the Joe Johnson team best.

DUNCANownsKOBE2

07-16-2009, 06:47 PM

I liked the Joe Johnson team best.

Joe Johnson was the last complete player on the Suns.

mojorizen7

07-16-2009, 07:01 PM

Joe Johnson was the last complete player on the Suns.

True.

Bob Lanier

07-16-2009, 07:38 PM

It's because he's Irish.

BlackSwordsMan

07-16-2009, 07:46 PM

time for danny ferry to work his magic

Danny.Zhu

07-16-2009, 10:42 PM

I think he's OK before this off-season.

The Suns was doomed when he took over. He took a gamble on Shaq's trade and unfortunately that didn't work out. So he went on to rebuild the team.

I just don't get why he would resign Nash and Hill, why he hasn't made the trade for Stoudemire to Warriors. These are 3 stupid move recently.

Jeremy

07-17-2009, 01:35 AM

The disgusting thing is that the majority of the SUNS fan base is buying this "We're going to be competitive" rhetoric from the FO.

IF Amare is healthy, I don't think that is too much of a stretch--if by "competitive" they mean a chance to be a playoff team.

mojorizen7

07-17-2009, 04:20 PM

IF Amare is healthy, I don't think that is too much of a stretch--if by "competitive" they mean a chance to be a playoff team.

If this current roster is what we're gonna roll out this fall then this will be one of the worst defensive teams ever to set forth on the hardwood.
Nash:wow
Dragic> Meh
JRich:wow
Barbosa:wow
Hill> solid
Dudley> good
Clark(rookie) ?
Amare:wow
Amundsen> meh
Frye:wow
Lopez:wow

The only guys that can play any "D" are Hill and Duds...and they play the same position. Also we're weakest at the two areas that IMO you've got to be strongest defensively....the point of attack(perimeter) and at the rim.

Austin_Toros

07-17-2009, 07:31 PM

Kerr has no idea how to make a playoff team.

I think he flips a coin do decide whether or not to make his next move.

pauls931

07-17-2009, 08:30 PM

he is working for the spurs llol

If he appears in LA and trades Gasol for Kwame Brown, I'll believe it.

peskypesky

07-17-2009, 08:38 PM