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kwamay_brown54
07-16-2009, 06:15 PM
Twitter nba_rumors_news you know the drill.

johngateswhiteley
07-16-2009, 06:18 PM
matched by utah?

kwamay_brown54
07-16-2009, 06:19 PM
The mormons just matched yes.

Thompson
07-16-2009, 06:22 PM
Ok Portland, time to help yourself and weaken a division rival.

johngateswhiteley
07-16-2009, 06:22 PM
sweet. now offer 50 million to odom, portland...or 1 more dollar, whichever.

ginobili's bald spot
07-16-2009, 06:22 PM
This could be very very bad for the Lakers if Portland turns their attention to Odom. So far they have said that they don't want him though. Lets hope they stick to that.

La Peace
07-16-2009, 06:23 PM
shit just got real

carrao45
07-16-2009, 06:25 PM
Ok Portland, time to help yourself and weaken a division rival.

They are not in the Pacific Division anymore

Thompson
07-16-2009, 06:27 PM
Really? Huh. Oh well, weaken your Western Conference rival then.

Y'all have the Warriors, Clippers, Suns and Kings? Dang that's an easy division.

ffadicted
07-16-2009, 06:51 PM
Portland is filled with idiots, they'd offer 50 mil to AI before they even talked to Odom

bostonguy
07-16-2009, 06:55 PM
Other than doing this to make LA worse, why the fuck would Portland go after Odom? They have enough wing players and giving Odom a long term deal would fuck them over a few years from now. That means less money to keep alot of these young guys around. He doesnt even make them all that much better. Portland has much bigger needs: a pg and a low post scorer.

benefactor
07-16-2009, 06:56 PM
The media has been crucifying the Blazers for not taking a shot at Odom. Pritchard might just make the call to save some face.

ginobili's bald spot
07-16-2009, 06:58 PM
Other than doing this to make LA worse, why the fuck would Portland go after Odom? They have enough wing players and giving Odom a long term deal would fuck them over a few years from now. That means less money to keep alot of these young guys around. He doesnt even make them all that much better. Portland has much bigger needs: a pg and a low post scorer.

I agree 100% but never underestimate stupid GM's desperate to blow some cap space.

Girasuck
07-16-2009, 07:01 PM
Bye bye Boozer. Stupid fat ass.

duncan228
07-16-2009, 08:12 PM
Jazz to keep F Paul Millsap (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=txjazzmillsap&prov=st&type=lgns)

The Utah Jazz are going to hang on to forward Paul Millsap.

The Jazz posted on their Web site Thursday evening that they plan to match Portland’s offer to Millsap, a restricted free agent. A formal announcement was scheduled for Friday, the last day Utah can match the $32 million deal that includes $10.3 million up front.

Millsap averaged 13.5 points and 8.6 rebounds last season, playing mostly as a reserve. He stepped in when starter Carlos Boozer missed 41 games with a knee injury and had a string of 19 straight double-doubles.

DAF86
07-16-2009, 08:18 PM
Other than doing this to make LA worse, why the fuck would Portland go after Odom? They have enough wing players and giving Odom a long term deal would fuck them over a few years from now. That means less money to keep alot of these young guys around. He doesnt even make them all that much better. Portland has much bigger needs: a pg and a low post scorer.

So Why the fuck did they go for Turkoglu in the first place?

BlackSwordsMan
07-16-2009, 08:23 PM
32 million for millsap wow

DJB
07-16-2009, 08:25 PM
Portland needs to get Odom.

FireDavidStern
07-16-2009, 08:29 PM
Other than doing this to make LA worse, why the fuck would Portland go after Odom? They have enough wing players and giving Odom a long term deal would fuck them over a few years from now. That means less money to keep alot of these young guys around. He doesnt even make them all that much better. Portland has much bigger needs: a pg and a low post scorer.

Well they just went after Milsap whos only a PF so Odom who is a PF who can play some SF makes sense.

Shank
07-16-2009, 08:36 PM
What the fuck, Donnie? They matched?

bostonguy
07-16-2009, 08:38 PM
So Why the fuck did they go for Turkoglu in the first place?

I have no idea why the youngest team in the league wanted to get Hedo other than them being excited to have money to spend. That move makes as much sense as them getting Odom. Portland should just save their money and go after someone that fills a bigger need. Milisap was a good try tho.

bostonguy
07-16-2009, 08:41 PM
Well they just went after Milsap whos only a PF so Odom who is a PF who can play some SF makes sense.

Odom is going to be 30 in November. Portland has a young team. In a few years alot of the youngsters will be up for new contracts. Blowing all your cap money on a 30 year old Odom isnt a wise thing to do and it could really hurt them down the road. Like I said, other than wanting to fuck LA over, Odom doesnt make sense.

Lars
07-16-2009, 08:47 PM
LOL overpaid. The collapse of the Utah Jazz is entertaining. (helps drown out the pain of our own offseason =/ )

SpursDynasty
07-16-2009, 08:48 PM
Cool. Lamar Odom will fit in Portland. LA without re-signing Ariza and Odom = fail.

balli
07-16-2009, 08:56 PM
LOL overpaid. The collapse of the Utah Jazz is entertaining. (helps drown out the pain of our own offseason =/ )

You're an idiot. Do you think if Millsap hadn't taken the POR offer, we'd have kept him for significantly less? Keep dreaming. We have uber desirable trade chips, a top PG and a lot of talent around him. We're in an enviable position compared to the majority of NBA franchises.

You have Yao's broken foot, a creaky kneed malcontent with a 21 million dollar deal and memories of the time Ron Artest was enough to get you past the first round.

Fuck off.

AFBlue
07-16-2009, 09:26 PM
I never understood why the Jazz WOULDN'T match that offer. If they really think Millsap is the goods, then it's not like they have to get rid of Boozer tomorrow. All this "Boozer MUST be dealt NOW" talk was nonsense, because the lux tax doesn't get applied until after the all-star break.

Yes, I suspect Boozer will be dealt now, but I thought the media hype over possible deals was retarded.

FireDavidStern
07-16-2009, 09:33 PM
Odom is going to be 30 in November. Portland has a young team. In a few years alot of the youngsters will be up for new contracts. Blowing all your cap money on a 30 year old Odom isnt a wise thing to do and it could really hurt them down the road. Like I said, other than wanting to fuck LA over, Odom doesnt make sense.

Paul Allen ain't worried about money. And Portland only has cap space this summer assuming they get the Roy and Aldridge extensions done. So this is the summer to spend cap space and grabbing Odom does make them better. They could always swing a trade for a point using one of their wings.

iggypop123
07-16-2009, 09:34 PM
rumor is now its back to david lee

bostonguy
07-16-2009, 09:39 PM
rumor is now its back to david lee

Thats a guy I could see Portland getting. New York wont match because they want to save up for 2010.

duncan228
07-16-2009, 09:43 PM
rumor is now its back to david lee

Unsigned Lee won’t play in USA Basketball minicamp (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-usa-lee&prov=ap&type=lgns)

David Lee’s unresolved contract situation will keep him on the sideline next week when USA Basketball holds its minicamp in Las Vegas.

Mark Bartelstein, Lee’s agent, said Thursday the New York Knicks forward will travel to Las Vegas but won’t take part in competition. The Americans are scheduled to practice July 23-24 and play an intrasquad scrimmage on July 25.

Lee was one of 25 young players invited to participate. The minicamp is being used to identify potential candidates for available spots on the 2010 world championship team.

Lee is a restricted free agent and the Knicks can match any offer he receives. Bartelstein said there’s nothing really new to report on contract talks

angelbelow
07-16-2009, 09:58 PM
dayum!

Dunc n Dave
07-16-2009, 11:13 PM
Odom>>>>>Outlaw/Webster/Batum/Fernandez

If they get Odom, they could always trade some of their wings (Fernandez and Outlaw, perhaps) for a PG at the AS Break. Maybe a trade for Chris Duhon or eventually Andre Miller after he re-signs w/Philly due to no $$$ being available anywhere else. Raymond Felton might be available in Feb.

Brazil
07-16-2009, 11:37 PM
By David Aldridge, TNT Analyst
Posted Jul 16 2009 8:51PM
Venturing deep into the NBA's luxury tax, the Utah Jazz have decided to match the four-year, $32 million offer sheet given to forward Paul Millsap by the Portland Trail Blazers last week, a source close to the Jazz confirmed Thursday.







The decision, which will be made official on Friday, returns Milsap to the Jazz, where he will likely become the starting power forward next season, and all but ensures that the Jazz will trade the current starter, Carlos Boozer, in order to alleviate what could be millions in potential luxury tax payments after this season. Including Milsap's first-year salary and prorated portion of his signing bonus, he will count for $7.7 million next season against Utah's cap. That figure, combined with the Jazz's returning players and first-round pick Eric Maynor's first-year salary, will push Utah's salary commitments next season to more than $81 million.
If Utah doesn't reduce its salary by the end of next season, it would be on the hook for more than $11 million in luxury tax payments, based on next year's projected tax threshhold of $69.9 million.
But Utah is hoping to get at least some tax relief by trading Boozer, who is in the final year of his contract at $12.7 million, and taking back less salary and/or draft picks in return. Both the team and Boozer have mutually agreed that it would be best to part ways after this season, and several teams, including Miami and Chicago, have expressed interest. By taking on players whose contracts are not guaranteed, or getting a third team involved which would take on one or more contracts in exchange for cash or picks, Utah could shave a few million dollars off of its tax bill before the league comes collecting next year.
Under the terms of the deal negotiated by Portland, Utah has to pay Millsap $10.3 million (a combination of his $5.6 million signing bonus and $4.7 million in salary, which is 80 percent of his first-year salary of $6.3 million), within a week of the contract being finalized. Portland structured the contract that way in hopes of making it too difficult for Utah to match.
But the Jazz, in good financial shape going forward with little long-term debt, decided it could write the check. The Salt Lake Tribune had reported this week that the Jazz had already consulted with local banks on the terms of a short-term loan that would cover the amount.
The decision came after general manager Kevin O'Connor met with team ownership on Thursday. The Miller Family, whose patriarch, the late Larry Miller, owned the team until his death earlier this year, remains in control of the franchise. The family had already indicated that it was willing to pay tax this coming season, knowing that Boozer, center Mehmet Okur and guard Kyle Korver all decided not to opt out of their current deals and play the final season of their respective contracts in Utah. The Jazz reached agreement with Okur last week on a two-year, $21 million extension.
The Blazers will now, once again, have $7.7 million in cap room to spend. They originally thought they had a deal with Orlando free agent forward Hedo Turkoglu, but Turkoglu reneged at the 11th hour and agreed to a five-year, $53 million contract with Toronto. Portland then turned to Milsap, who had stepped into the starting lineup when Boozer was hurt for much of last season.
Now, the Blazers have to decide whether to turn their attention to the remaining pool of free agents, including Lakers forward Lamar Odom--whose contract talks with Los Angeles have ground to a halt after the team pulled its offers from the table Tuesday--or keep the money available in order to do an uneven trade later this summer or before next year's trade deadline. Given that the team will likely not have cap room for the foreseeable future, with emerging stars Brandon Roy and LaMarcus Aldridge both due for significant raises after the coming season, there is strong sentiment within the Portland organization to use the money now on another player that can help the Blazers get over the top in the Western Conference.
SI.com was first to report Utah's decision to match.

Lars
07-17-2009, 01:10 AM
You're an idiot. Do you think if Millsap hadn't taken the POR offer, we'd have kept him for significantly less? Keep dreaming. We have uber desirable trade chips, a top PG and a lot of talent around him. We're in an enviable position compared to the majority of NBA franchises. .

Your franchise is is having financial problems and just gave a stupid contract to an average player. Carl Landry, a similar player with comparable numbers is getting paid 1/3 of what Milsap is getting. Even people on your own fan board are calling this one of the "top five worse FO moves in Jazz history"

Enviable position? What a joke. Williams is a stud, but what talent do you have around him exactly? You have a trade chip in Boozer who no one wants because he can't be trusted to keep his word on a long term commitment. I hope you are high on Udonis Haslem or Hinrich, cause thats about the best you are going to get.

The Jazz were a mediocre team last year and just got worse, not only for next year but for the forseeable future with terrible FO decisions. You might have a shot with AKs terrible contract off the books and the NY pick, but locking up Milsap was a mistake.


You have Yao's broken foot, a creaky kneed malcontent with a 21 million dollar deal and memories of the time Ron Artest was enough to get you past the first round.

Fuck off.

LOL, we have a future though!

FkLA
07-17-2009, 03:33 AM
Your franchise is is having financial problems and just gave a stupid contract to an average player. Carl Landry, a similar player with comparable numbers is getting paid 1/3 of what Milsap is getting. Even people on your own fan board are calling this one of the "top five worse FO moves in Jazz history"

Enviable position? What a joke. Williams is a stud, but what talent do you have around him exactly? You have a trade chip in Boozer who no one wants because he can't be trusted to keep his word on a long term commitment. I hope you are high on Udonis Haslem or Hinrich, cause thats about the best you are going to get.

The Jazz were a mediocre team last year and just got worse, not only for next year but for the forseeable future with terrible FO decisions. You might have a shot with AKs terrible contract off the books and the NY pick, but locking up Milsap was a mistake.



LOL, we have a future though!

Have u ever seen Millsap play? He's a beast on the boards, and he average 14 and 9...he deserves the 8 mill/yr he will get. Sideshow Bob's contract up in Cleveland was way worse than this and Millsap is a better player.

IronMexican
07-17-2009, 03:40 AM
Wow, Lars just proving to be a rocketfan.

Lars
07-17-2009, 03:41 AM
Have u ever seen Millsap play? He's a beast on the boards, and he average 14 and 9...he deserves the 8 mill/yr he will get. Sideshow Bob's contract up in Cleveland was way worse than this and Millsap is a better player.

Milsap is better than Varejao, but both are overpaid.

024
07-17-2009, 04:12 AM
portland going after millsap was stupid and they only did it to drive up his price range. this was a shady move by the blazers because they knew the utah had to match. portland has aldridge so why would they pay millsap $10 million to back him up? portland is pissing off ever team in the league but the lakers.

duncan228
07-17-2009, 06:12 PM
It's official.

Jazz keep F Paul Millsap (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=txjazzmillsap&prov=st&type=lgns)

Paul Millsap is staying with the Utah Jazz.

The Jazz on Friday matched the Portland Trail Blazers’ $32 million offer for the restricted free agent, keeping Millsap in Utah with a new four-year deal.

Portland frontloaded the offer with a guarantee of $10.3 million up front and the Jazz were willing to pay up to keep Millsap, a second-round surprise in the 2006 draft.

Utah had seven days to match the offer and made the division rival Trail Blazers wait the full week before Friday’s announcement.

Chieflion
07-18-2009, 01:25 AM
portland going after millsap was stupid and they only did it to drive up his price range. this was a shady move by the blazers because they knew the utah had to match. portland has aldridge so why would they pay millsap $10 million to back him up? portland is pissing off ever team in the league but the lakers.
Drive up his price range? No. 32 million over 4 years is worth it for Paul Millsap. Now just trade Boozer for a good starting SG and the Jazz will be set.

Mhak
07-18-2009, 02:02 AM
Nobody wants to play in Portland.. Oregon is pretty racist

024
07-18-2009, 05:28 AM
Drive up his price range? No. 32 million over 4 years is worth it for Paul Millsap. Now just trade Boozer for a good starting SG and the Jazz will be set.
i still don't see why portland needs to pay millsap $10 million to back up aldridge. millsap doesn't fit becuase pryzbilla and maybe eventually oden is a perfect fit next to a jump shooting aldridge. portland doesn't need extra rebounding and pryzbilla + oden and even aldridge provides plenty of shotblocking. burning cap space to fill a already loaded bigman lineup is not sensible.

Chieflion
07-18-2009, 05:54 AM
i still don't see why portland needs to pay millsap $10 million to back up aldridge. millsap doesn't fit becuase pryzbilla and maybe eventually oden is a perfect fit next to a jump shooting aldridge. portland doesn't need extra rebounding and pryzbilla + oden and even aldridge provides plenty of shotblocking. burning cap space to fill a already loaded bigman lineup is not sensible.
I believe Pritchard said something along the lines of wanting the best player available.

Ron Ron Artest
07-18-2009, 01:27 PM
You have Yao's broken foot, a creaky kneed malcontent with a 21 million dollar deal and memories of the time Ron Artest was enough to get you past the first round.



Actually, it's 23 million, thank you very much....

Thompson
07-18-2009, 01:32 PM
Nobody wants to play in Portland.. Oregon is pretty racist

I did see a news special about the neo-nazi skinheads up in Portland. Is it actually proportionally much worse up there than elsewhere, or just a vocal (and violent) minority?

Girasuck
07-18-2009, 08:16 PM
Your franchise is is having financial problems and just gave a stupid contract to an average player. Carl Landry, a similar player with comparable numbers is getting paid 1/3 of what Milsap is getting. Even people on your own fan board are calling this one of the "top five worse FO moves in Jazz history"

Enviable position? What a joke. Williams is a stud, but what talent do you have around him exactly? You have a trade chip in Boozer who no one wants because he can't be trusted to keep his word on a long term commitment. I hope you are high on Udonis Haslem or Hinrich, cause thats about the best you are going to get.

The Jazz were a mediocre team last year and just got worse, not only for next year but for the forseeable future with terrible FO decisions. You might have a shot with AKs terrible contract off the books and the NY pick, but locking up Milsap was a mistake.


God, what a stupid fucking idiot you are. Financial trouble? Did you read the article right above you? Not only are we NOT in financial trouble, we finally have an owner who's willing to spend into the luxury tax. Sounds like we're in deep financial trouble, doesn't it.

Carl Landry is a similar player? Show me when Landry recorded 19 straight double-doubles? There was ONE fan that said it was one of the top 5 worst moves in franchise history. You failed to mention the hundreds of fans who posted that it was great to have Paul back.

Once again you prove why Rockets fans are without a doubt the most idiotic, homer based, fucked up pieces of shit. I'm almost pissed at myself that I wasted 3 minutes of my time replying to this garbage.

Lars
07-18-2009, 08:47 PM
lol defensive much?

Chieflion
07-18-2009, 08:56 PM
I agree with Girasuck. Millsap>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Landry hands down.

IronMexican
07-18-2009, 09:26 PM
Once again you prove why Rockets fans are without a doubt the most idiotic, homer based, fucked up pieces of shit.

:tu Laker fans get a bad rap here, but we have nothing on rocketfans. Those For every good rocketfan, about 4 or 5 idiot ones join.

Lars
07-19-2009, 12:44 AM
I agree with Girasuck. Millsap>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Landry hands down.

Landry 9 ppg, 5 rpg on 57% shooting in 21 minutes @ 3 million a year
Milsap 13 ppg, 9 rpg on 53% shooting in 30 minutes @ overpaid per year

Chieflion
07-19-2009, 02:58 AM
Landry 9 ppg, 5 rpg on 57% shooting in 21 minutes @ 3 million a year
Milsap 13 ppg, 9 rpg on 53% shooting in 30 minutes @ overpaid per year
I bet Carl Landry is not able to get half the playing time with Boozer in the rotation or even step up for the entire time Boozer was out, matching his production.

Ron Ron Artest
07-19-2009, 07:36 PM
I bet Carl Landry is not able to get half the playing time with Boozer in the rotation or even step up for the entire time Boozer was out, matching his production.

I bet he would be able to come pretty damn close... Not saying he is better than Milsap but Landry would be real good given a chance to play more minutes. If Landry wasn't playing behind Luis Scola and Yao Ming then I bet he would be able to produce very similar numbers to what Milsap did last season. Plus Landry comes waaayyyyy cheaper than Milsap.

But like I said, I don't think Landry is better than Milsap by any means. I just think he could produce similar numbers given the same chance Milsap had.

Girasuck
07-19-2009, 09:01 PM
Landry 9 ppg, 5 rpg on 57% shooting in 21 minutes @ 3 million a year
Milsap 13 ppg, 9 rpg on 53% shooting in 30 minutes @ overpaid per year

Millsap made less than $800,000 last year. Maybe you should wait to quote his stats after this season when he's averaging a double double as the starting PF.

balli
07-19-2009, 09:53 PM
I'd argue that Landry, if anything, is underpaid. Great for HOU. Doesn't have shit to do with Utah, Millsap or any other NBA player's market value.

So I'd also argue that this Lars fuck, is just being a butt-hurt little asshole; one who's too obtuse and simple to live and let live over the fact that Utah manhandled HOU in the first round 2+ years ago. So his course of action is to somehow try to spin Utah keeping Millsap as a bad thing. Laughably dumb.

iggypop123
07-19-2009, 10:18 PM
millsap>> landry. but value landry>>millsapp

Lars
07-20-2009, 12:23 AM
Millsap made less than $800,000 last year. Maybe you should wait to quote his stats after this season when he's averaging a double double as the starting PF.

So you think if a player is offered more money, he is going to become a better player?

Sorry, Milsap is a decent player, but this contract is more than he is worth.

Ron Ron Artest
07-20-2009, 01:09 AM
So I'd also argue that this Lars fuck, is just being a butt-hurt little asshole; one who's too obtuse and simple to live and let live over the fact that Utah manhandled HOU in the first round 2+ years ago. So his course of action is to somehow try to spin Utah keeping Millsap as a bad thing. Laughably dumb.

holding on to past here a little now, huh?

By the way, I wouldn't consider going to game 7 and game 6 in two seperate series being manhandled.... especially considering one year was without Yao. But good try anyway.