The 2009 French NT thread

[ploto]

Andrea has sucked all summer. I do not think he even wants to be there. He will be happy to lose and be done.:depressed

[kace]

So now France just needs to beat Finland twice and beat Italy at home (or narrowly lose) to advance? Is Parker still scheduled to play against Finland?

yes, TP is expected to play for the next game.

[Bruno]

et :tu à Monclar pour la "Giggi l'Amoroso" blague.

[kace]

there was a polemic in France about TP's presence making his teamates shy and hesitant because of the big difference of level and status between him and the others.

that was especially during the last campaign, without Diaw, Batum who were the ones who showed guts tonight. i really hope that all those players will show the same intensity and will take their share of responsabilties, even with Tony back.

[kace]

et :tu à Monclar pour la "Giggi l'Amoroso" blague.


"le moniteur" pour De Colo, fallait l'oser aussi :lol

[Brazil]

et :tu à Monclar pour la "Giggi l'Amoroso" blague.

Jacques était en forme !

Good and important win for France especially in the context of the TP drama.

Very disapointing game for Nando 2 lay ups and that's it.

The FTs % is at least decent for France for once 19/28

[timaios]

So now France just needs to beat Finland twice and beat Italy at home (or narrowly lose) to advance? Is Parker still scheduled to play against Finland?

There is 2 groups

Group A
Belgium
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Portugal

Group B
Finland
France
Italy

The winner of the Group A play against the winner of the Group B in 2 games (Home/Away).

The winner go to the Euro 2009.

[biziofromdowntown]

STFU

The only reason they won was because of Mancinelli leaving.


This is first time i'm agree with KBP....

We were really unlucky with Mancinelli injury...fuck! His low post was killing ur defense

[Freeze]

STFU

The only reason they won was because of Mancinelli leaving.

France was up by 1 when he left in the 3rd quarter.

You're wrong, again.

[sonic21]

STFU

The only reason they won was because of Mancinelli leaving.

is he better than tony and deron?

[biziofromdowntown]

France was up by 1 when he left in the 3rd quarter.

You're wrong, again.


Not so wrong mon ami

[Brazil]

there was a polemic in France about TP's presence making his teamates shy and hesitant because of the big difference of level and status between him and the others.

that was especially during the last campaign, without Diaw, Batum who were the ones who showed guts tonight. i really hope that all those players will show the same intensity and will take their share of responsabilties, even with Tony back.

I agree, one of the big problem of the team is a "give the ball to Tony, he will do something good with it" attitude.
Nevertheless a Batum / Diaw / Parker / Pietrus / Turiaff is a good core to play good BB.

[kace]

This is first time i'm agree with KBP....

We were really unlucky with Mancinelli injury...fuck! His low post was killing ur defense

Mancinelli injured for half a game or TP injured for the whole game ? what could be the biggest lost for his team ?

[biziofromdowntown]

France NT is better than actually Italian NT...but today we'd a great change to defeate u...and we lost it...FUCK!!!

[sonic21]

tony, Diaw and Flo are the leader. Last year only tony was there.

[biziofromdowntown]

Mancinelli injured for half a game or TP injured for the whole game ? what could be the biggest lost for his respective team ?



I'm talking abot today...We knew Parker wasn't going to play, so, during this match u cannot count him..IMHO...and read before, i told a complete France Team is reall better than Italy

[kace]

I'm talking abot today...We knew Parker wasn't going to play, so, during this match u cannot count him..IMHO...and read before, i told a complete France Team is reall better than Italy

the game was very close, so yes, both teams could have won it. and even with TP, the next one could be a very close one as well.

i can't remember the last time the french NT won a game easily, keeping a large advantage till the end of the game.

[kace]

tony, Diaw and Flo are the leader. Last year only tony was there.

yep. and you can add Batum maybe.

[timaios]

Could M. Pietrus & J.Noah play the Euro 2009, if France qualifies ?

[kace]

Could M. Pietrus & J.Noah play the Euro 2009, if France qualifies ?

Pietrus could if his health is OK. (well, if his team says so indeed).

[Bruno]

Mancinelli could maybe have made a difference in the 4th quarter or in the OT but the true reason why Italy lost is that they couldn't hit a 3. 3/22 on 3 pointers is damn ugly.

[Brazil]

Mancinelli could maybe have made a difference in the 4th quarter or in the OT but the true reason why Italy lost is that they couldn't hit a 3. 3/22 on 3 pointers is damn ugly.

and France shooting near 70% of FTs which was quite unlikely :lol

[Limguogolo]

Again, good start and.... "ok men who play cards?"

I hope the addition of Parker won't kill the present chermistry. The ball movement was fine tonight. And we know Tony can jeopardize the tempo.

[Solid D]

I watched most of the 2nd half of the Fr v. It game..thanks to Bruno. Nando seemed to defer to the older players a lot. He nailed a big three when they really needed it. Other than that, he either passed up shots finding open players instead, or stayed out on the perimeter to keep spacing the floor for isos. I would have like to see Nando put into situations where he could move without the ball and feel like he had the green light to score when he had the ball.

Batum had the green light and he hit a big shot or two, but the airball at the end of reg was quite sad.

I thought the Belinelli FTs to tie the game in reg were a gift. The defender seemed to be set enough to at least draw a non-call but Marco sold it.

Boris Diaw should be more dominant than he showed today. He could have easily scored a dozen more if he had been more aggressive.

[Brazil]

For #3000 posts, nothing better than a French NT thread and a Win over Italy !

:toast to me:huddle::cheer:danceclub:cheer:huddle:

[Spurs Brazil]

Props to France

Do you think TP will play next game after this win?

[Brazil]

Props to France

Do you think TP will play next game after this win?

see one of my posts page 8. http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131672&page=8

V Collet confirmed that TP will play against Finland saturday because TP wants to play and nobody can prevent him from doing that.

[Freeze]

Not so wrong mon ami

I guess we'll never know, but IMO French NT showed great heart and that's the reason of this win.
For the past few years, this team missed team chemistry, I've seen that tonight. Add the natural talent of Batum and Pietrus, the experience of Jeanneau at the point, and the ice in the veins of the 20 yo Diot for his 1st game with NT and you got this win.
Hopefully, they'll play again as a team next games.

[mystargtr34]

Didnt know the younger Pietrus could play.

[timaios]

Didnt know the younger Pietrus could play.

Florent is older.

Florent Piétrus is 28.
Mickaël Piétrus is 27.

[mystargtr34]

My bad. Thanks.

[angelbelow]

Very interested to see how Ian does.

[JPB]

Didnt know the younger Pietrus could play.

With F. Pietrus last year, France would already be qualified for the Euro champs.

[Bambililos]

IMO Flo Pietrus is the most consistent yet underrated player in the NT. This guy is very athletic, scores loads of dunks and grabs a bunch of rebounds. And he's solid every game, win or lose.

[kace]

well, apparently, from the last articles on the net, TP should not play too much tonight.

The french staff should use him depending on the score (which could mean that if French NT does well, TP could not even play maybe, or just begin the two halves if he's starter, don't know)

[Muser]

Does Pietrus' brother play in Europe?

[JPB]

Valencia, Spain.

[Bambililos]

Does Pietrus' brother play in Europe?

He plays in Spain. I don't follow European basketball much, but I heard he's far from a star in his team too... Yet he is excellent with Les Bleus.

[Mel_13]

Less than one hour until gametime.

Any word on if/how much Tony will play?

[Mel_13]

Parker listed among the 12 for France. No Mahinmi.

http://live.fibaeurope.com/netcasting/default.asp?game_number=6375-B-1&microsite_scope=undefined

The link brings up the France-Italy game. Just click "Games" in the upper right and then choose the France-Finland game from the next window.

[Thompson]

Is this link going to show video, or is it just a boxscore?

[Bruno]

Parker will play but only short stints and limited minutes. French NT staff will be careful.

Stream but only for the first half:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/tvkeeper

[timaios]

http://fr.justin.tv/eddy63

[Mel_13]

Thanks for the links. Tony played the first 5:15. Nice round of applause as he came out of the game.

[timaios]

Finland 6/9 3pts in 12 min :bang

[kace]

Finland 6/9 at 3 :bang. offensive game till now with. 30-28 for France.

edit: didn't see timaios post :lol

[Bambililos]

Nice series for France :)
Good to see we're able to lead this game without Tony.

[timaios]

End of the game : France 82 Finland 72

[Bambililos]

Very impressive shhoting by Finland, but France had a good game overall.

Nice win, especially with Tony with very limited minutes. Everybody should be happy :)

[timaios]

Very impressive shooting by Finland, but France had a good game overall.

Nice win, especially with Tony with very limited minutes. Everybody should be happy :)

Finland 12/22 3pts + 16/20 FT

S.Haanpaa 6/6 FG (5/5 3pts) 21 pts in 23 min. Who is that guy ???

[ForeignFan]

So Diot is not only a sausage (to be eaten with white wine) but also a promising young bb player. good news

[Brazil]

Didn't see the game. Is there a box score somewhere ?

[mathbzh]

Didn't see the game. Is there a box score somewhere ?

France-Finland (www.eurobasket2009.org/en/cid_toT,ovGDH2EaLKL67XnPo2.compID_qMRZdYCZI6EoANOr Uf9le2.season_2009.gameID_6375-B-2-2.html#{5E70D78D-E480-4F66-9B60-839D032EE21A})

[duncan228]

Parker returns to help France beat Finland (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-france-finland&prov=ap&type=lgns)

Tony Parker returned from injury to help France beat Finland 82-72 in a European Championship qualifying match Saturday.

The San Antonio Spurs point guard, who missed Wednesday’s 80-77 overtime win over Italy due to a right ankle sprain, was used sparingly by coach Vincent Collet.

He only played the first five minutes as France consolidated its position at the top of qualifying Group B in the Euro playoffs.

The team finishing first in Group B takes on the winner of Group A—Bosnia, Belgium or Portugal. The European Championships are next month in Poland.

Parker had wanted to play Wednesday, but the Spurs brought him back to San Antonio for tests after he was injured in a collision with an Austrian player last month. Parker has said tests showed no signs of ligament tears or serious complications.

[colargol]

So Diot is not only a sausage (to be eaten with white wine) but also a promising young bb player. good news

As a young player Diot was full of promise....we are all waiting something special from him. He was really dominant as a junior

[ForeignFan]

As a young player Diot was full of promise....we are all waiting something special from him. He was really dominant as a junior

I know (to a certain extent) - I just wanted to share some French gastronomy knowledge with our US friends...

[Brazil]

France-Finland (http://www.eurobasket2009.org/en/cid_toT,ovGDH2EaLKL67XnPo2.compID_qMRZdYCZI6EoANOr Uf9le2.season_2009.gameID_6375-B-2-2.html#{5E70D78D-E480-4F66-9B60-839D032EE21A})

thanks math ! BTW bzh ? breton?

[NicolasBatum]

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/antoine-diot

next Spurs draft pick

[Solid D]

Looks like Nando had a pretty decent game except for the 3 TOs. He led the team with 5 Assists, had 3 steals and 8 points. 4th most minutes.

Was Nando showing any leadership this game or was he still deferring to the others?

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

End of the game : France 82 Finland 72

This is sad. France should win them by 30.

[duncan228]

Parker plays in French victory (http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/Parker_plays_in_French_victory.html)
Express-News

Tony Parker returned from a right ankle sprain to help France beat Finland 82-72 in a European Championship qualifying match Saturday. The Spurs point guard was used sparingly by coach Vincent Collet.

Parker played the first five minutes, scoring three points, as France solidified its spot atop Group B in the Euro playoffs. Spurs draft pick Nando De Colo had eight points and five assists in 25 minutes.

[Riverwalkman]

Parker returns to help France beat Finland (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-france-finland&prov=ap&type=lgns)


5 mins 3 pts 1 ast. :blah

[Brazil]

Feu vert pour Mahinmi


L’intérieur des Spurs peut désormais s’entraîner avec l’équipe de France.




En l’attente de l’autorisation des dirigeants des Spurs pour pouvoir s’entraîner avec les Bleus, Ian Mahinmi a vu ses problèmes d’assurance réglés. Le pivot, qui n’a pas participé à la victoire tricolore contre la Finlande samedi (82-72) pourra donc prendre part aux séances de Vincent Collet et son staff dès lundi.

Ian is clear for participating to the trainings (insurance issues solved) but he still has to wait the authorization of Spurs organization to play.

[mathbzh]

thanks math ! BTW bzh ? breton?

Yes, from Quimper (I live near Paris now)

[mathbzh]

Looks like Nando had a pretty decent game except for the 3 TOs. He led the team with 5 Assists, had 3 steals and 8 points. 4th most minutes.

Was Nando showing any leadership this game or was he still deferring to the others?
To be honest I don't like much what I saw from him. There is not doubt he is very talented, but sometime he looks a bit out of control. I hope it is just that he has to adjust to a different role (with Cholet he was the clear-cut leader) when he is playing for the NT.

[Bruno]

It's a good news that Ian's insurance troubles are solved. :tu

Finland scored 50% of its point behind the arc. FIBA pushing back the 3 point line is definitely a good thing for the game. French speaking posters can see the press conference and heard some interviews here: http://www.pau-orthez.com/news.php?newsid=934 .
Diot doesn't only plays like a 30 years old vet, he also speaks likes one. His level of maturity for a player that young is quite unreal. I also like what Collet says and what he does as a coach.

Next game for French NT is Friday against Italy but before that there will have a Finland-Italy game Tuesday. Italy has the better team on the paper but with Mancinelli done and if Finland continue to shoot well, an upset is possible.

[Brazil]

It's a good news that Ian's insurance troubles are solved. :tu

Finland scored 50% of its point behind the arc. FIBA pushing back the 3 point line is definitely a good thing for the game. French speaking posters can see the press conference and heard some interviews here: http://www.pau-orthez.com/news.php?newsid=934 .
Diot doesn't only plays like a 30 years old vet, he also speaks likes one. His level of maturity for a player that young is quite unreal. I also like what Collet says and what he does as a coach.

Next game for French NT is Friday against Italy but before that there will have a Finland-Italy game Tuesday. Italy has the better team on the paper but with Mancinelli done and if Finland continue to shoot well, an upset is possible.

Collet seems to be the man of the situation, it was about time to have a decent coach for this team.

[angelbelow]

Parker plays in French victory (http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/Parker_plays_in_French_victory.html)
Express-News

Tony Parker returned from a right ankle sprain to help France beat Finland 82-72 in a European Championship qualifying match Saturday. The Spurs point guard was used sparingly by coach Vincent Collet.

Parker played the first five minutes, scoring three points, as France solidified its spot atop Group B in the Euro playoffs. Spurs draft pick Nando De Colo had eight points and five assists in 25 minutes.

Thanks good that they limited his minutes.

[timaios]

Larry Brown likes Florent Piétrus.

http://www.basketusa.com/news/rumeurs/18383/rumeur-du-jour-florent-pietrus-aux-bobcats/


Rumeur du jour : Florent Piétrus aux Bobcats ?

Depuis toujours, on est persuadé que Florent Piétrus (2m01, 28 ans) a sa place en NBA. Malik Rose du pauvre, il peut défendre sur les postes 3 et 4, et au fil des années, il s’est doté d’un bon petit shoot à 5-6 mètres.

Même s’il est toujours lié au club de Valence, l’aîné de Piétrus pourrait réaliser son rêve cet été et rejoindre son frangin en NBA.

C’est L’Equipe qui lâche cette bombe : Larry Brown aurait craqué pour Flo’ et il envisagerait de lui donner sa chance aux Bobcats. Preuve de cet intérêt, il aurait demandé au staff tricolore la cassette du match face à l’Italie.

Clairement, Flo’ a sa place aux Bobcats, une franchise de milieu de tableau. Sean May parti, il pourrait être le troisième ou quatrième intérieur derrière Tyson Chandler et… Boris Diaw.

On peut d’ailleurs compter sur Bobo pour faire du lobby auprès de Coach Brown.

[JP le Requin]

good news for french basket...another legionnaire :-)

please can someone help me to get my french flag under my profile like others???

[sonic21]

Larry Brown likes Florent Piétrus.

http://www.basketusa.com/news/rumeurs/18383/rumeur-du-jour-florent-pietrus-aux-bobcats/

Rumor of the day : Florent Piétrus to the Bobcats?

We always thought Florent Piétrus (2m01, 28 ans) could become an NBA player. Poor man Malik Rose, He can defend the 3 and 4 spots, and through the years, he improved his midrange jumper.

Even if he's still under contract with Valencia, the older of the Piétrus brothers could realize his dream this summer and could join his brother in the nba.

According to lequipe: Larry Brown has a man-crush for Flo’ and he may give him a chance with the bobcats. Proof of his interest, he has asked to the french staff the tape of the game against Italy.

Clearly, Flo’ could have a spot with the bobcats. Sean May gone, he could become the 3rd or 4th bigman behind Chandler and Diaw.

[sonic21]

very good defender but imo too undersized for the nba

[Solid D]

Ian has an opportunity to fill a huge need for the NT. Diaw is currently their best post player.Ian can score inside and he can draw fouls PLUS hit his FTs. Yes, he fouls and yes he can get moved around defending bigger pivots, but French NT needs him badly. Petro has been a non-factor.

[duncan228]

10 August 2009
Collet Looks For Better Defense (http://www.eurobasket2009.org/en/coid_E-nq1O6PIJYP3zcAz86tM0.articleMode_on.html)

France are in first place in Group A of the EuroBasket Additional Qualifying Round after winning for the second consecutive time on Saturday but coach Vincent Collet won't allow his troops to relax.

Saturday's triumph over Finland followed an overtime win at Italy - a team Les Bleus will go up against again on Friday.

"We must apply ourselves to develop our defense in more detail in a game that will be full of tension," Collet said.

France are in great shape, especially when considering that Tony Parker has not been a factor because of the ankle injury he suffered in the build-up to the qualifying games.

He missed the first game against Italy while receiving treatment on the problem back in San Antonio and then played just over five minutes against the Finns.

On Saturday, Antoine Diot made up for Parker's absence in the backcourt by pouring in a team-high 16 points.

"The ankle is okay, it is still not 100% but it's getting there," Parker said.

"I must go slowly ... My hope is to go further. It's still a long way."

"It was planned like that," Collet said of Parker's limited minutes.

"We will give him additional days to return. He will play more against Italy."

[Mel_13]

A few article about the games and teams in the Additional Qualifying Round:


Recap of Saturday's games:
http://www.euroleague.net/news/i/57668/180/item

From Finland's POV:
http://www.eurobasket2009.org/en/coid_kX,sZ,dNI7ctozZwqQMT83.articleMode_on.html

About the leader in Group B, Bosnia:
http://www.eurobasket2009.org/en/coid_DNbVEcYqJ367kstTkbzFl1.articleMode_on.html

[Bruno]

Italy won in Finland 77-75. Finland shoot only 5/25 from 3 point land.

So, next game against Italy on Friday is damn important:
- If France NT win they are qualified.
- If they lost by more than 3, they are basically eliminated.

The bad news of the day is that Batum has an injured shoulder. If he can't play against Italy, it will be a huge loss.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

France and Italy teams so far this summer have been awful. If they did qualify and played like that in Poland at the Eurobasket they will not even advance past the group stage.

[JPB]

Italy won in Finland 77-75. Finland shoot only 5/25 from 3 point land.

So, next game against Italy on Friday is damn important:
- If France NT win they are qualified.
- If they lost by more than 3, they are basically eliminated.

The bad news of the day is that Batum has an injured shoulder. If he can't play against Italy, it will be a huge loss.

Yeah, 5/25... I guess italians watched France-Finland...
Too bad Finland couldn't win. Even with a defeat vs Italy friday, A less than a 10 points loss in Finland would had been enough for France to be qualified for the finale...

Expect Tony to have a great game vs Italy if he's physically ok. He always has against them. They're what New York was to Jordan to him.

[JPB]

Latest news says Batum should be cleared for training by wenesday.

[Alain]

France and Italy teams so far this summer have been awful. If they did qualify and played like that in Poland at the Eurobasket they will not even advance past the group stage.

Against Latvia, Russia (without Kirilenko) and Germany (without Nowitzki?) anyone stands a chance. At least, it's not the group C in lieu of England (poor guys...).

[JPB]

[QUOTE=Bruno;3622306]I also like what Collet says and what he does as a coach.
QUOTE]

Me too. He was really calm and realistic during the Parkergate, understanding spurs position (it was also a bit diplomatic).

His tactical choices during games are also rather effective, specially after time-outs.
And he wants the ball to live and to be shared. It will be interesting to see what TP's return will do.

[Bruno]

Latest news says Batum should be cleared for training by wenesday.

We will see but I think that Batum will have a shoulder surgery and be out for the rest of the summer.
He started to have troubles with his right shoulder last year. Rest obviously wasn't enough to solve them so I can see Blazers deciding to do a surgery to fix his shoulder.

[sonic21]

question for french posters not living in France:
is tv5 broadcasting the french NT games?

I'll be in India friday and i don't want to miss the game.

[Brazil]

question for french posters not living in France:
is tv5 broadcasting the french NT games?

I'll be in India friday and i don't want to miss the game.

No way in hell ! tv5 broadcasting basketball ? :lol eventually a final of the olympics but event that I'm not sure

[Bruno]

AFAIK, tv5 broadcast "France television" programs. These games are shown on "France television" channel so I doubt they will be on tv5.

BTW, some interviews made Wednesday (in French):
http://www.pau-orthez.com/news.php?newsid=936

[sonic21]

No way in hell ! tv5 broadcasting basketball ? :lol eventually a final of the olympics but event that I'm not sure

:(

[kace]

from l'Equipe, today.


Batum revient en scène

L’arrière de Portland a repris l’entraînement hier et jouera demain face à l’Italie, à moins que son club n’en décide autrement.



LE STAFF N’EN FRÉMIT même plus. En pareilles circonstances, il y a quelque temps, on aurait eu un grand vent, un branle-bas de combat. Là, l’épaule de Batum coince, on déroule la procédure, sereinement,paisiblement. Aujourd’hui, ce type de nuage n’enfante plus une tempête.Il y a eu tant de cas à dénouer ces trois dernières années, jusqu’à la cheville droite de Parker, nécessitant un aller-retour express à San Antonio la semaine passée. Le staff
sait que la vie en sélection d’un joueur NBA est ainsi faite, et il s’acquitte. Avant-hier soir, Portland avait en main le dossier médical complet du joueur, son avenir en bleu cet été aussi, un peu. Car, si Batum assure qu’il va bien, qu’il jouera demain face à l’Italie, le staff de l’équipe de France est en attente
d’une position concrète de la franchise de l’Oregon, employeur du joueur et donc grand décideur. BON POUR LE SERVICE. – Après deux jours d’arrêt, Nicolas Batum a pris part sans souci à l’unique séance d’entraînement de la journée hier après-midi. Dans la matinée, il avait eu conjointement le feu vert
médical du « doc » des Bleus et un avis positif de l’expert chargé d’analyser
l’arthroscanner de son épaule droite passé lundi. « L’arrêt était
plus de la prévention. J’ai eu mal parce que j’ai pris un coup sur mon
épaule, mais, aujourd’hui, tout va bien, je cours, je saute partout, je
n’ai plus mal », confiait-il d’un ton tranquille. Pour Vincent Collet,
l’aspect physique du dossier ne nourrissait pas plus d’inquiétudes
que cela. « Nicolas a ce problème d’épaule depuis cinq mois, qui, de
façon occasionnelle, lui provoque des douleurs. Là, il n’a pas mal. Pour
moi, il jouera vendredi, comme il a pu jouer les deux premiers
matches », expliquait le coach français.

DEVRA-T-IL SE REPOSER ? –

L’instabilité de l’épaule dont souffre Batum remonte à cinqmois, et Nicolas
a effectué toute la fin de saison avec cette fragilité. « Il y a cinq mois,
j’avais vraiment mal, je ne pouvais pas plier le bras, je courais avec le
bras tendu ! Là, ce n’est rien du tout », confessait l’ancien Manceau,
qui n’a suivi aucun traitement durant la fin de saison régulière
NBA. « À l’époque, on n’a rien fait, à part des soins. Il fallait enchaîner les
matches et je n’en ai pas raté un à cause de mon épaule ! », poursuivait-
il. Ce genre de blessure n’appelle pas d’intervention spécifique a priori, si ce n’est du repos et un travail de remusculation, entamé
un peu cet été par Batum à Portland. Dans l’optique d’une qualification
acquise vendredi soir, peut-on envisager dès lors que Nicolas Batum
soit mis à l’arrêt jusqu’à la finale des repêchages, voire le début de
l’Euro ? Pour Vincent Collet, cette hypothèse n’est pas envisagée :« Je
ne suis pas sûr. Ce n’est pas ce que le spécialiste de l’épaule a dit, même
si, à un moment donné, Nicolas devra renforcer cette épaule. Mais je
ne vois pas pourquoi ce serait plus maintenant que dans trois semaines
ou plus tard », convenait le technicien français.

PORTLAND A LES CARTES EN MAIN.

– L’employeur est le décideur. Et l’équipe de France, nonobstant
les garanties données, devra se plier, encore une fois, au bon vouloir
de la franchise NBA. Hier soir, le directeur de l’équipe de France,
Patrick Beesley, était encore en attente d’un positionnement ferme
de Portland sur ce dossier. « Par souci de transparence, on leur a
envoyé tous les clichés. Le dossier est entre leurs mains. On est vacciné
et on ne peut pas dire qu’il n’y a pas de soucis tant que l’on n’a pas de
retour concret », expliquait le directeur des Bleus, qui espérait une
réponse des Trail Blazers hier, tard dans la soirée. Comme dans le cas
de Parker, Batum peut-il être rappelé dans l’Oregon ? Le joueur, qui a eu
Kevin Pritchard, le manager général de Portland, au téléphone mercredi
soir, était prudent. « Contrairement à Tony, il n’y a pas d’antécédents.
Pritchard ne m’a pas parlé d’un retour encore, mais ça peut être une
option », confiait-il. Si Batum est à nouveau sur le terrain, la balle,
aujourd’hui, est dans le camp de Portland...

DAVID LORIOT

apparently, Batum should be OK, no surgery. He has this injury for 5 months and has played through it, with more pain, for Portland. right now, he's fine, with no pain, but will have to do something about that (rest and musculation for this shoulder). Portland has received all the informations about Batum's health and has not answer anything right now.

[Bruno]

Today's interview:
http://www.pau-orthez.com/news.php?newsid=937

Ian will be inactive for tomorrow game. He hasn't shown during practice that he was better than the other bigmen and he could leave the NT soon.

It doesn't look good at all for his future with Spurs. French NT bigmen (Petro, Traoré and Koffi) are far from great and Ian wasn't able to be better than them. Spurs bigmen are significantly better than that. If Ian comes in training camp at that level, he will end up on the inactive list or will be dumped in a trade.

[urunobili]

^^^ :depressed

[kace]

Today's interview:
http://www.pau-orthez.com/news.php?newsid=937

Ian will be inactive for tomorrow game. He hasn't shown during practice that he was better than the other bigmen and he could leave the NT soon.

It doesn't look good at all for his future with Spurs. French NT bigmen (Petro, Traoré and Koffi) are far from great and Ian wasn't able to be better than them. Spurs bigmen are significantly better than that. If Ian comes in training camp at that level, he will end up on the inactive list or will be dumped in a trade.

pretty rare to hear a coach being so frank, straight about a player

journalist : "will you put the same players ?"
coach: "yes"
j: "no mahinmi ?"
c: "no"
j: "why ?"
c: "he didn't show us he could bring us something more"
j " he will leave ?"
c: "we will have to discuss about it today"

pretty harsh and unexpected. our bigs are rather bad as you said.

[DPG21920]

Ehh...the FNT has made some questionable personnel decisions seemingly before. I would not read too much into it. Not to mention Ian is still recovering and getting back into shape.

Some players play much better against better competition as well, and I have a feeling that Ian is one of those guys from watching him play a few times.

[bobbybob0]

Anybody knows which channel is broadcasting the game tonight?
Still Sport+ or luckily one of France Télévision channels?

[raspsa]

Maybe for some reason Ian isn't that motivated to play for the NT? But then, why even join in the first place. I'd have thought he would welcome the playing time. Well, he'd better come prepared for training camp.

[mountainballer]

It doesn't look good at all for his future with Spurs. French NT bigmen (Petro, Traoré and Koffi) are far from great and Ian wasn't able to be better than them. Spurs bigmen are significantly better than that. If Ian comes in training camp at that level, he will end up on the inactive list or will be dumped in a trade.

as I tried to point out some weeks ago, Ian will become a pretty expensive "project" in a few weeks, when the Spurs need to decide if they pick the option for the 2010-11 season. assuming the Spurs will also be tax payers in 2010-11, Ian will cost them about 3.6 million for that season. and if they don't pick the option, it means they have given up on him.
best case for Spurs (and for Ian) could be a dump trade this summer, to a young and non tax payer team. with the Spurs he will neither get the chance, nor the minutes.
(if Tiago in fact comes in 2010, this will make it even worse for Ian in the 2010-11 season)
currently Rockets could be a better place. or Kings. or Warriors. (Rockets and Warriors hold TEs that work. the TE plus a 2nd rounder?). it would also clear a roster spot and in the current situation I would prefer Hairston and Williams with the Spurs.

[robot89]

is there going to be a link for the game today?

[Bruno]

best case for Spurs (and for Ian) could be a dump trade this summer, to a young and non tax payer team.

I disagree.
Ian right now has no trade value at all. the best to do with him is to give him a chance during the training camp.
If he is good, Spurs pick his option for 10-11 and they keep him.
If he is bad, Spurs don't pick his option and they trade him (like they did with Udrih) before the trade deadline to save some luxury tax money.

[Bruno]

is there going to be a link for the game today?

There will likely have link(s) that will be posted just before the game.
Game start at 1pm CST (8pm CET).

[angelbelow]

Sucks to hear about Ian, but it could just be that the NT wants to stay with the bigs that have been there since the beginning. Hopefully theres some sort of positive spin on this.

[spursfaninla]

seems to be negative news for Ian. Well, he still has a chance...but his prospects do seem to be dimming.

Although Ian being a serviceable big would have considerably helped us for the future, he was not necessary in the short term. However, it does put more pressure on the franchise to either land splitter or to get another good, young big in the next 2 years.

Blair is part of that puzzle, but not the solution, even if he becomes one of the future top 3 rotation bigs, we need another young big for when duncan retires.

[ForeignFan]

Anybody knows which channel is broadcasting the game tonight?
Still Sport+ or luckily one of France Télévision channels?

only Sport+

[Bruno]

stats: http://live.fibaeurope.com/netcasting/default.asp?game_number=6375-B-4&microsite_scope=undefined
stream: http://www.freedocast.com/keeper

[ForeignFan]

8-2 good start. Pietrus is agressive gain

TPdrive for 2 10-2

[ForeignFan]

Tp drives again

+ 1 !

[ForeignFan]

good D so far

TP 7pts in 5min
and now pass behind the bak to Diaw for a dunk !

[timaios]

Great start !!!

[ForeignFan]

15-2 time out Italy

Am I the only one watching ? I cannot do that during the whole game...

[ploto]

Blow out!

[ForeignFan]

Pietrus Off Reb, Batum drives along the base line and dunks !

17-5

[ForeignFan]

good ball movement, another dunk from Pietrus 19-5

[ForeignFan]

0/4 on 3pts though ...

[ForeignFan]

TP out, Diot in for last 2mn of Q1

[ForeignFan]

sorri I meant Jeanneau

[ForeignFan]

a couple of missed outside shots (zone Def by Italy) and FTs, 19-7 end of Q1

[ForeignFan]

steal + dunk Batum 21_7

[ForeignFan]

de colo for 3

+15

[angelbelow]

Nice de colo

[ForeignFan]

28-13

[ForeignFan]

Mordente for 3

batum Off Reb and 2pts

[ForeignFan]

FTs by TP +15 again

[ForeignFan]

time out/ this Q is more balanced; France is still off on outside shots

[Pauleta14]

time out/ this Q is more balanced; France is still off on outside shots

... And the ref are AGAIN fucking with us against Italy....

[ForeignFan]

Belinelli 2+1

32-21

[rjv]

as I tried to point out some weeks ago, Ian will become a pretty expensive "project" in a few weeks, when the Spurs need to decide if they pick the option for the 2010-11 season. assuming the Spurs will also be tax payers in 2010-11, Ian will cost them about 3.6 million for that season. and if they don't pick the option, it means they have given up on him.
best case for Spurs (and for Ian) could be a dump trade this summer, to a young and non tax payer team. with the Spurs he will neither get the chance, nor the minutes.
(if Tiago in fact comes in 2010, this will make it even worse for Ian in the 2010-11 season)
currently Rockets could be a better place. or Kings. or Warriors. (Rockets and Warriors hold TEs that work. the TE plus a 2nd rounder?). it would also clear a roster spot and in the current situation I would prefer Hairston and Williams with the Spurs.

correct-ian is expendable but the question is tiago. will he go ricky rubio on us or will he finally decide to be a spur next season when he can get paid the mid level ?

[ForeignFan]

Fpietrus missed dunk...

[ForeignFan]

3 PF for Belinelli

[NicolasBatum]

Nice too see the real TP

[ForeignFan]

Tp for 2 11pts 38-25
1 min left

[ForeignFan]

Batum drives for 2 and draws the foul

[NicolasBatum]

Houston & Portland je vous maudit !
Nico sera un Spur un jour...

J'espère...

[ForeignFan]

and he makes it

[ForeignFan]

missed 3 for italy but Jeanneau turns it over and fouls (with 4 sec left...)

[Pauleta14]

I wish we had Batum (with the spurs!) ...

[ForeignFan]

I wish we had Batum (with the spurs!) ...

+1 !
He has 12pts, 6 rbs and 4 steals
Pietrus has 8pts and 7 rbs

halftime 41-27 - keep the pressure !

[ForeignFan]

TP for 2

[ForeignFan]

turiaf with 3 fouls mauvaise limonade

Diaw's great assist for Turiaf, 2 + the foul - he makes it

+19 !

[ForeignFan]

alley hoop missed (was there a foul)

then steal, TP throws a long pass to Turiaf, who dunks

48-27

[ForeignFan]

Belinelli for 3

[ForeignFan]

Belinelli for 3 again, 10 meters away... he is hot
48-33

and another two by the same ! 48-35

[ForeignFan]

Batum drives for 2

[ForeignFan]

Petro in for Turiaf who has three fouls

off foul, great D by Pietrus

[ForeignFan]

Diaw for 2
+17

[ForeignFan]

another 3 for Italy (5/10) +15

[ForeignFan]

sorry 52-38

batum misses a 3 (1/10 !)

[ForeignFan]

TO's Italy 13, France 7

[ForeignFan]

TP for 3 !!!!!

[ForeignFan]

Belinelli along the baseline and dunk

[ForeignFan]

back to back 3 by TP !!!

[ForeignFan]

+18
Tony with 19pts in 23'

[Pauleta14]

TP Time!!!!!!!!!!
Two 3s bck to bck

[silverblackfan]

Diaw is looking a bit heavy. Tony is heating up.

[ForeignFan]

Belinelli has scored 12 of italy's 15 pts in this Quarter

[silverblackfan]

TP heat check. missed 3

[ForeignFan]

great assist TP to Traore

[silverblackfan]

Nice pass.

[ForeignFan]

TP for another 3 at the buzzer !

62-46

[silverblackfan]

Tony drains another one from the corner.

[ForeignFan]

+16, 10 minutes left

Don't screw it up !

[Pauleta14]

TP Big 3 at the Buzzer!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tony has his killer instinct "ON"

[silverblackfan]

It is going to be tough on Italy if they start honoring TP's 3. He is going to be having a layup drill, if they do.

[velik_m]

Isn't it a bit ironic that Kinder is the sponsor of French team?

[ForeignFan]

great D

[urunobili]

TP going apeshit against Italy... it doesn't get any better than that :tu

[ForeignFan]

Isn't it a bit ironic that Kinder is the sponsor of French team?

:lol

[silverblackfan]

Nice steal on the inbounds.

[ForeignFan]

Great TO by Italy, 2 pts for les bleus +18

clock violation by Italy - good D again

[silverblackfan]

Shot clock expires. Good defense by France. It looks like Italy is starting to get rattled.

[ForeignFan]

Diaw with 4 PF

[ForeignFan]

turiaf WTF ?

[ForeignFan]

Bargnani for 2 (his 2nd)

Batum for 2 - dime from Bokolo

[silverblackfan]

Batum cuts to back door and scores.

[ForeignFan]

6:30 left

Italy miss their 3 now

[ForeignFan]

+19

[ForeignFan]

Bargnani sends a sausage - Italian players seem to have lost their heart

[ForeignFan]

we need to prepare to play Bosnia - anyone knows this team?

[ForeignFan]

Mordiente is a dirty player - Off foul

[ForeignFan]

Turiaf with the tip in +19, 4min left

[silverblackfan]

Turiaf for a put back of De Colo miss.

[ForeignFan]

Turiaf drives and makes a thunderous dunk !

[ForeignFan]

the whole crowd sings

Batum drives on the baseline and dunks again

+20

[ForeignFan]

TP for 2, 23 pts

The game has long been over but France still plays agressive

[silverblackfan]

TP is really becoming a killer. That last 2 was vicious.

[silverblackfan]

And 1 for Turiaf.

[ForeignFan]

nice pass, Turiaf for 2 under the basket

I do not know why Tp is still in, Pop is going to be upset :lol

[silverblackfan]

Turiaf would have been a solid addition for the Spurs, if it could have been done.

[ForeignFan]

Diot for 3 ! icing on the cake

end of game 81-61

[silverblackfan]

Damn the fans there are good! I would love to see a Spurs game with that kind of energy.

[velik_m]

Great job France. That being said I'm rooting for Bosnia - less competition for us :P

[ForeignFan]

Turiaf would have been a solid addition for the Spurs, if it could have been done.

Yes, I even opened a thread on this topic (my only thread...).

[ForeignFan]

Batum 18 pts, 8 rbds, 4 steals
Parker (23 pts, 5 assists -MVP of the game),
Turiaf (14 pts, 5 rbds)
were great,

Pietrus was good as well esp in the first half, great D

For Italy, Belinelli was good in the 3rd quarter, Bargnani was a non factor

[timaios]

I want to see Ian Mahinmi against Finland.
He can't be worse than Traore or Koffi !!!
At least Ian is making his FT.

[Bruno]

Damn good game by the French NT.
The defense was great and aside some struggles against the zone the offense too.

For Italy, Bellineli is very talented and could be a good surprise with Raptors next year. Bargnani was awful. I can't believe he got $50M/5 years. :lmao

Next for French NT is a game against Finland on Monday. This game is almost meaningless. The first game of the qualification finale (against Bosnia or Belgium) is on June 27th, the second one is on June 30th. So the NT has 13 days without a big game. I wonder if some new players will be added...

And :tu to the crowd.

[ForeignFan]

Damn good game by the French NT.
The defense was great and aside some struggles against the zone the offense too.

For Italy, Bellineli is very talented and could be a good surprise with Raptors next year. Bargnani was awful. I can't believe he got $50M/5 years. :lmao

Next for French NT is a game against Finland on Monday. This game is almost meaningless. The first game of the qualification finale (against Bosnia or Belgium) is on June 27th, the second one is on June 30th. So the NT has 13 days without a big game. I wonder if some new players will be added...

And :tu to the crowd.


I wonder whether TP is going to fly back to SA during this break :lol

[Brazil]

Nice game ! the crowd was just perfect.
TP has been great and Batum god... If Ian is not better than Traore or Kofi there is nothing to expect next year from him for the spurs

[biziofromdowntown]

Congrats for France! U deserve this win, u r simple a better team than us.

[Bruno]

http://www.lnb.fr/index.php?pid=50&id_article=17181&cursor_start=0

Batum goes back to Portland. :depressed
Let's hope he will be back for the 27th.

[lefty]

Putain de bordel de merde

[ForeignFan]

:depressed:depressed:depressed

[rjv]

thanks foreign fan for all the updates-sounds like it was a solid game for tony.

[Brazil]

http://www.lnb.fr/index.php?pid=50&id_article=17181&cursor_start=0

Batum goes back to Portland. :depressed
Let's hope he will be back for the 27th.

fais chier a la fin

[ForeignFan]

Parker : «J'avais dit hier (jeudi) en conférence de presse que je ne jouerais pas beaucoup mais c'est parce qu'il y avait un journaliste italien dans la salle ! Alors j'ai dit des trucs un peu faux, je ne voulais pas donner trop d'infos. Ça c'est bien passé. On avait beaucoup d'envie. Avec Boris (Diaw) et Ronny (Turiaf), on se rappelait de 2003 (lorsque l'Italie avait barré la route des JO 2004 à la France, NDLR). On a toujours ça en travers de la gorge, on était très remonté, on avait envie de faire un gros match. Moi, j'avais des fourmis dans les jambes après tout ce qui s'était passé. L'équipe de France me tient à coeur. Je joue toujours avec beaucoup d'émotion. Nicolas (Batum) a été énorme ce soir, il fait 6 interceptions, marque 18 points. J'espère qu'il va revenir, moi je suis bien revenu. Il est impressionnant.»

Florent Pietrus : «C'est une très belle victoire, on a réussi un match complet. Offensivement et défensivement, on est rentré tout de suite dedans. Si on défend comme ça, on a beaucoup de chances de gagner contre n'importe qui. C'est vraiment une victoire collective.»

Vincent Collet : «Je suis satisfait de l'état d'esprit et de l'intensité défensive de mon équipe. On a encore parfois connu des trous d'air mais on a réussi à se créer des solutions offensives. On a réussi un départ remarquable. On les a mis K.-O. Il faut maintenant répéter ces performances, continuer à progresser. On a des objectifs plus poussés que cette qualification. Il faut garder cette concentration. Quand on a appris la nouvelle tard hier soir (le départ de Batum à Portland, NDLR), on a été un peu assommé. Quand il est sorti à deux minutes de la fin, je lui ai dit : "reviens vite !" On a bon espoir. On voit qu'il est tout à fait capable de jouer. On va leur donner le DVD de la rencontre de ce soir pour les inciter à le renvoyer.» (AFP)

[Bruno]

^ CIA Parker. :lol

About Batum:
First, Portland has been quite nice to let him play the game against Italy. Props to them.
The diagnostic was that Batum needed to strengthen his shoulder to fix this injury. I wonder if he can do that while continuing to practice and play games. We will see.

[Spurs Brazil]

Props to France and it's great to see TP playing well

[stéphane]

Batum has his high ceiling on full display. He's damn impressive on both ends of the court.

[duncan228]

Parker gives Italy Les Bleus (http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/Parker_gives_ItalyiLes_Bleusi.html)
Express-News

Tony Parker appears to be back up to full speed, and France is two games from qualifying for EuroBasket.

Les Bleus clinched the top spot in Group B of the additional qualifying round with an 81-61 home demolition of Italy, led by Parker's 23 points, in Pau, France.

Parker, who was held out of France's 80-77 overtime win at Italy on Aug. 5, added five assists in his 31 minutes. He played just five minutes of France's previous game, last Saturday against Finland.

Les Bleus pounced early, and Italy never made it a contest. Florent Pietrus scored all eight of his points in the first quarter, with two coming on a dunk with 2:39 to go in the period for a 19-5 lead.

The lead ballooned to 28-11 when Alain Koffi made two free throws. By halftime, Nicolas Batum had 12 points and Parker 11; the lead was 41-27. After the break, Italy never reduced the gap to single digits.

Batum finished with 18 points and eight rebounds, and Ronny Turiaf scored 14 points with five boards.

Marco Belinelli scored 19 points to lead theAzzurri while Andrea Bargnani was held to just five points and five rebounds.

The French improved to 3-0 with the victory and will meet the top team of the other group in a home-and-away two-game playoff for the last spot at EuroBasket.

Bosnia and Herzegovina improved to 3-0 in Group A with a 73-61 win over Portugal on Friday, but could still be overtaken by Belgium.

[bobbybob0]

http://www.lnb.fr/index.php?pid=50&id_article=17181&cursor_start=0

Batum goes back to Portland. :depressed
Let's hope he will be back for the 27th.

Fuck, I want to see this team at full strength just one single time !

Hopefully we qualify for the Eurobasket and the team can be complete for September in Poland (incl. Noah and Mike Pietrus).

Anyway, good game against italy :toast

[Mel_13]

France Edge Closer To EuroBasket After Italian Job

France clinched top spot in Group B of the Additional Qualifying Round for the EuroBasket with a 81-61 home demolition of Italy.

Tony Parker, who missed France's 80-77 overtime win over Italy in the first game between the sides back on August 5, played in front of the home fans on Friday and led Les Bleus with 23 points.

The French improved to a perfect 3-0 with the success, rendering their game against Finland on Monday meaningless since neither the Finns (0-2) nor Italy (1-2) can overtake them.

They will now meet the top team of the other group in a home-and-away leg to determine the last team to play at the EuroBasket.

http://www.eurobasket2009.org/en/coid_0Vnxv,MnJRENUI,PvcS881.articleMode_on.html

[ForeignFan]

Great news, Batum is back ! Info from lequipe.fr:

Tout ça pour rien. Rappelé par Portland et reparti samedi aux Etats-Unis pour des examens complémentaires de son épaule droite, Nicolas Batum sera finalement de retour dès lundi. «Il remonte dans l'avion aujourd'hui (dimanche) à midi, heure de Portland, et sera de retour à Paris demain. Il nous rejoindra à Pau samedi», a expliqué Patrick Beesley, dimanche

Batum takes a flight back to Paris today (not very environment friendly, those return trips to the US...)

[Bruno]

Yep, great news. Batum has been awesome this summer.

Things are looking good for the NT. They should be able to beat Bosnia or Belgium to reach the Euro and they will have a good draw at this Euro. Reaching the quarter-final round doesn't look too difficult and after that, it's an one game elimination tournament.

[ForeignFan]

Yep, great news. Batum has been awesome this summer.

Things are looking good for the NT. They should be able to beat Bosnia or Belgium to reach the Euro and they will have a good draw at this Euro. Reaching the quarter-final round doesn't look too difficult and after that, it's an one game elimination tournament.

For those who have not clicked on the FIBA link, if France qualifies, they will be in the Preliminary Round with Russia (without Kirilenko), Germany (without Dirk) and Latvia.

[Brazil]

Great news for Batum. It sounds crazy but Batum is already key for France. Do we know if for the euro guys like Noah will come back?

[Freeze]

For french posters :

TP will be in TV show Stade 2 in one hour.

[Brazil]

^Stade 2 !!!! this show still exists ? god...

[Lady M]

^Stade 2 !!!! this show still exists ? god...

yes :bang
and when they talk about basketball or NBA they are awfull
worst in the world :ihit

[Brazil]

yes :bang
and when they talk about basketball or NBA they are awfull
worst in the world :ihit

Nope ! there is worst actually : ESPN Brazil

[velik_m]

Wow, i just found out: Italy will miss their first European championship since 1961.

[DPG21920]

LMAO at people judging Bargs vs Marco Belinelli because of these games. NBA Bargs>>>>>>>>>Marco Belinelli.

Easier?

[Brazil]

LMAO at people judging Bargs vs MB because of these games. NBA Bargs>>>>>>>>>MB.

Am I the only one to not understand this ^

[DPG21920]

Am I the only one to not understand this ^


For Italy, Bellineli is very talented and could be a good surprise with Raptors next year. Bargnani was awful. I can't believe he got $50M/5 years.

[Brazil]

^thanks for the clarification

[Mel_13]

Am I the only one to not understand this ^

You're not alone.

[ForeignFan]

LMAO at people judging Bargs vs Marco Belinelli because of these games. NBA Bargs>>>>>>>>>Marco Belinelli.

Easier?

it may be so, but in the two games vs France, Bargnani sucked while Belinelli was the best Italian player.

[DPG21920]

it may be so, but in the two games vs France, Bargnani sucked while Belinelli was the best Italian player.

Exactly. That would be like watching Tim Duncan struggle in the Olympics and saying someone who played better for a small amount of games will have a very nice impact over him.

I like both players, and in a niche, I think Belinelli will fill a nice role that the Raptors like to have (Kapono...), but we have seen what Bargnani can do in flashes and he averages 15 ppg, and we have seen Belinelli and what he has to offer.

He did suck though...plenty of players suck from time to time.

[DPG21920]

So how many games in how many days for France is possible?

[Mel_13]

So how many games in how many days for France is possible?

All 8 teams that make it to the quarterfinals will play 9 games in 14 days from 7-20 September.

[DPG21920]

All 8 teams that make it to the quarterfinals will play 9 games in 14 days from 7-20 September.

Those are guaranteed games, then it goes to single elimination?

[Mel_13]

Those are guaranteed games, then it goes to single elimination?

No, that's the whole tourney. Three games in first round and second round. Then three more games once the quarters begin. All eight quarterfinal teams play three more games since there is a loser's bracket and all spots from 1st thru 8th are determined on the court.

http://www.eurobasket2009.org/en/cid_toT,ovGDH2EaLKL67XnPo2.pageID_znH-9TRlHsQ89rbQiy3N,3.compID_qMRZdYCZI6EoANOrUf9le2.s eason_2009.html

[lefty]

^Stade 2 !!!! this show still exists ? god...
Damn, I forgot about it :lmao:rollin

[Brazil]

Damn, I forgot about it :lmao:rollin

I know !!! Pierre salviac, Chamoulot et son gros poireau...

[Bruno]

LMAO at people judging Bargs vs Marco Belinelli because of these games. NBA Bargs>>>>>>>>>Marco Belinelli.


I'm not judging one vs the other. I'm just looking at what they have done in their both game against France.

Bellineli has failed so far in the NBA but he showed in these games that he has a lot of talent. I think that he has the talent level to be a good NBA player. Given that he will play this year with a new team, he has a good opportunity to show what he can really do.

Like it or not, Bargnani was damn bad in these games. When you are a NBA player paid $10M per year and even if you aren't in the best situation, you had to play way better than what Bargnani did. If I where Raptors, I would be a little worried to see a player, in which I've invested $50M, laying a that big egg with his NT. What is even more worrisome for Raptors is that he get a that big contract, not because he played well for years but because he plays well during 3 and a half months.

[Bruno]

Tonight at 6pm CET (11am CST), Finland-France.
FNT has locked the first place of its group but is now looking at having a better record than the first team of the other group. The first with the best record will have the edge of playing at home the second game of the final.

FNT coach said that he could put Mahinmi on the active roster for this game and gives him a try. We will see if he does it.

[robot89]

Hey B do you think tony will play???

[Bruno]

Hey B do you think tony will play???

I think he will.
I've seen nothing saying or even hinting that he won't play today.

[lurker23]

Tonight at 6pm CET (11am CET), Finland-France.




Sorry Bruno, could you clarify what time the game is?

[Bruno]

Sorry Bruno, could you clarify what time the game is?

My bad.
11am in SA and 6pm in France.

[spursballer21]

where can i see the game i wanna watch this game!!

[spursballer21]

its today as in right now? cuz its 10:54 im confused :huh

[Mel_13]

live stats:
http://live.fibaeurope.com/netcasting/default.asp?game_number=6375-B-5&microsite_scope=undefined

Parker starting
Mahinmi dressed
Batum out

[Bruno]

stream: http://fr.justin.tv/keeperlive1

[spursballer21]

stream: http://fr.justin.tv/keeperlive1
thanks bruno u rock im go watch it

[urunobili]

Ian appears on the roster on the boxscore webcast

[spursballer21]

ian manhimi sigting

[spursballer21]

hes playing wooh!!

[spursballer21]

hes rebounding good theyre giving him minutes he already has 2 or 3 if not mistaken

[urunobili]

slow start for France... :wakeup

[Bruno]

36-33 for France at the half. :sleep

Ian and Tony have been bad. Nando has had a good first half.

[DPG21920]

I'm not judging one vs the other. I'm just looking at what they have done in their both game against France.

Bellineli has failed so far in the NBA but he showed in these games that he has a lot of talent. I think that he has the talent level to be a good NBA player. Given that he will play this year with a new team, he has a good opportunity to show what he can really do.

Like it or not, Bargnani was damn bad in these games. When you are a NBA player paid $10M per year and even if you aren't in the best situation, you had to play way better than what Bargnani did. If I where Raptors, I would be a little worried to see a player, in which I've invested $50M, laying a that big egg with his NT. What is even more worrisome for Raptors is that he get a that big contract, not because he played well for years but because he plays well during 3 and a half months.

It is not great that he played poorly, but I would not worry too much. I disagree with the bold statement, because no one seems to remember how good of a rookie season he had as well. Not to mention he played extremely well in his first playoff run.

That is just forgotten because he took such a huge step back in his second season. But he also played very well this entire year, not just 3.5 months. He really only had one month where he struggled, but he played well from the beginning. It just so happens his last 3 or 4 months were excellent.


Also, do you think that Ian is a player who plays much better against higher levels of competition? I said earlier from watching him play, that he seems to get bored easily (or at least he is now) because he wants to so badly to play with the Spurs. Sometimes in sports, you get players like that. What do you think?

[spursballer21]

5 consecutive points by ian manhimi but finland is hot from the shooting and not makign any turnovers !!

[DPG21920]

France's ball movement and player movement on offense is very rigid. But they seem to be coasting somewhat.

[spursballer21]

de colo is good i like his game his fast and can shoot from the outside too

[DPG21920]

Nando for 3 and the lead 70-67