my car has been rushed to the OR.....

[clambake]

.......please pray with me. :depressed

[SonOfAGun]

Quit imposing your religion on me.

[ORION]

.......please pray with me. :depressed

I told you that amp couldn't handle those subs

[clambake]

Quit imposing your religion on me.

you may choose any religion for prayer. thank you

[clambake]

I told you that amp couldn't handle those subs

i've never added or subtracted from this fine automobile.

everything is the same since the showroom floor.

[ORION]

i've never added or subtracted from this fine automobile.

everything is the same since the showroom floor.
Not even some street glow

[clambake]

Not even some street glow

that might be a nice send off to the afterlife.

[Dr. Gonzo]

I'm getting a sweet chain steering wheel for my ride.

[ORION]

I'm getting a sweet chain steering wheel for my ride.
So you can drive while wearing hand cuffs?

[clambake]

this is not about hand cuffs, it's about prayer.

focus, people.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Prayer won't help. Your car is gone, fucking dead. Say goodbye.

[clambake]

Prayer won't help. Your car is gone, fucking dead. Say goodbye.

don't say that. it cost $165.00 just to leave it with them.

[SonOfAGun]

I told you to ditch that Perodua
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Perodua_Kancil_%28first_generation%29_%28front%29% 2C_Kuala_Lumpur.jpg/250px-Perodua_Kancil_%28first_generation%29_%28front%29% 2C_Kuala_Lumpur.jpg

[clambake]

I told you to ditch that Perodua
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Perodua_Kancil_%28first_generation%29_%28front%29% 2C_Kuala_Lumpur.jpg/250px-Perodua_Kancil_%28first_generation%29_%28front%29% 2C_Kuala_Lumpur.jpg

this is not my car, and you should not be making fun of such a tragic time for my family.

you, sir, are evil.......some might say you're a demon......bent on confusing mankind.

[marini martini]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc45/vballchik8/praying_cowboy.jpg

[clambake]

ok.....she's going to live.

i just talked to the surgeon, and he said it was cylinder miss-fires because of spark plug cable arcs. they need to be replaced along with the plugs.

$1020.00

[marini martini]

ok.....she's going to live.

i just talked to the surgeon, and he said it was cylinder miss-fires because of spark plug cable arcs. they need to be replaced along with the plugs.

$1020.00

You're welcome!:toast

[clambake]

You're welcome!:toast

thank you so much for your prayers. you're a real car saviour!

[blizz]

woah woah....plugs and cables for 1020????? wtf? what kind of car is it?

[Nbadan]

...no shit...I hope they kiss you first..

[ORION]

ok.....she's going to live.

i just talked to the surgeon, and he said it was cylinder miss-fires because of spark plug cable arcs. they need to be replaced along with the plugs.

$1020.00

I hope they replaced your headlight fluid for that price.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

damn. what kind of lube did they use. i can replace them for half that and give you a reach around.

[ORION]

When did Arrow Upholstery start working on cars ?

[Wild Cobra]

ok.....she's going to live.

i just talked to the surgeon, and he said it was cylinder miss-fires because of spark plug cable arcs. they need to be replaced along with the plugs.

$1020.00
I had to see what was being said...

Anyway...

Set of Spark Plug Cables... Maybe $60

Set of plugs... Maybe $40

Looks like you are being taken. Diagnostics and labor: $920.


Anyone else smell a rip off here?

The mechanic must have decided to give you a special rate because of your special charm we all love.

[exstatic]

When did Arrow Upholstery start working on cars ?

That.

No way that should cost more than $150

[clambake]

this is not a car that you work on yourself, or one that you take to some guy named goober. there is a certain amount of maintenance to be expected, and everything being done comes with a manufacturers gaurantee.

all i requested was prayer. and thank you for your understanding and care.

money can't always be the end all........and this is a family member!



double thanks to marini martini!!!!

[Wild Cobra]

this is not a car that you work on yourself, or one that you take to some guy named goober. there is a certain amount of maintenance to be expected, and everything being done comes with a manufacturers gaurantee.

Still, plugs and wires, over $1000...

OK, what are they? Gold core wires?

I don't care how nice the car is. Tune ups are part of normal maintenance, and that should run you that much money. Sounds like you had Goober work on it!

[clambake]

you wouldn't understand, WC.

let's not pretend.

[TDMVPDPOY]

i say you invest into a horse and carriage, thats the way we be traveling in the future, fuck

[Wild Cobra]

you wouldn't understand, WC.

let's not pretend.
I think I do. To me, and any other mechanically inclined person, a car is a car. You're just snooty enough you think it takes more money to get it fixed.

Reminds me of the scene in Doc Hollywood where he didn't want the country mechanic to touch his classic Porsche.

Now I agree, I would never take it to the likes of "Jiffy Lube," for anything. I could see spending $300 to $500 for a tuneup on some cars. $1020 is simply out of line.

Oh wait...

Are you driving the Jay Leno Tank Car? That might cost a bit to replace the spark plugs and wires!

iQHRNeY9zUU

[Frenzy]

guess which one is your mechanic....






http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w38/shadowsnake666/324.jpg

[marini martini]

all i requested was prayer. and thank you for your understanding and care.

money can't always be the end all........and this is a family member!
double thanks to marini martini!!!!

No problemo Clammy!!! It's my specialty to pray over loved family members!:) :toast

[cherylsteele]

What kind of car is it?

[Wild Cobra]

What kind of car is it?
I'd like to know also. Is it so special that you have to overnight ship parts from the UK or something? I mean, if it's a something like a TVR (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TVR) Cerbera (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TVR_Cerbera), I apologize. I'd love to have one of them.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Tvr.cerbera.arp.jpg/250px-Tvr.cerbera.arp.jpg

Take one of them over a Ferrari, Lamborghini, etc. which are far too common here. I'd go for a Ford GT before the Ferrari or Lamborghini anyway. Tuneup at a Ford dealer won't set you back your firstborn.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cd/2005_Ford_GT.jpg/250px-2005_Ford_GT.jpg

[Strike]

What kind of car is it?

I'd love to know what kind of car it is. Over a grand for plugs and wired? That's mechanical rape unless it's a Lotus or a Maserati.

[blizz]

what kind of car is it? i think it's bullshit that you're trying to justify it by saying that we wouldn't understand. i know some cars aren't the easiest to work on and need specialists from that particular manufacturer to work on them, BUT you haven't told us what kind of car it is and you sound like a bitch talking about how it's a family member. i bet it's some piece of shit ricer.

[SpursStalker]

:lol @ the whole thread!

[SonOfAGun]

Perodua parts are hard to find guys. They require special spark plugs made out of Cambodian goat teeth.

Good luck Clambake!

[Viva Las Espuelas]

ha. clambake is getting ripped off and is ashamed to tell us what he drives. not ashamed of what he drives just doesn't want people to see how bad he's being prison pumped from behind in the free world. come on. it's just a car. it's not like youre Batman, clammy. he probably drives an eclipse.

[clambake]

calm down people, it's a v12.


that goat teeth thing is pretty funny.

[mrsmaalox]

Well that narrows it down to about 10 cars I can think of. Now, what color is it?

[mrsmaalox]

No really I can only think of about 5 cars

[clambake]

exterior or interior?

[mrsmaalox]

exterior or interior?

Exterior of course. As long as the interior isn't black, it's all good :toast

[clambake]

Exterior of course. As long as the interior isn't black, it's all good :toast

uh oh.

[blizz]

bunch of bullshit pussyfooting around

[blizz]

you deserve to get fucked over like that you douche

[marini martini]

bunch of bullshit pussyfooting around


you deserve to get fucked over like that you douche

Never too late to resolve those issues with your mother!:wow
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Clammy;
Okay black interior, so what color is the exterior??? Do you have an sunroof and tinted windows??? What are you listening to your music on??? Not that this really maters.:toast

[Wild Cobra]

calm down people, it's a v12.

OK, so parts and labor are costing 50% more than a V-8. Still doesn't say much. How does that come close to justifying $1020?

Special part... I can see maybe $10 per plug and $200 for a set of wires. That's still $800 in labor.

You know, in the Gen IV Firebirds and Cameros, you have to drop the engine to change the plugs. It still doesn't come close to that. All the V-12's I can think of, you have full access to the plugs. What's so special for $800 in labor?

Which is it?

* Aston Martin DB7 Vantage
* Aston Martin Vanquish
* Aston Martin V12 Vantage
* Aston Martin DB AR1
* Aston Martin DB9
* Aston Martin DBS
* Audi Q7
* B Engineering Edonis
* BMW 750i/750iL/760i/760Li
* BMW 850i/Ci/CSi
* Bugatti EB110
* Daimler Double Six
* Ferrari 166
* Ferrari 195
* Ferrari 212
* Ferrari 340/342
* Ferrari 375/375 America
* Ferrari 250
* Ferrari 410 Superamerica
* Ferrari 400 Superamerica
* Ferrari 275
* Ferrari 330
* Ferrari 500 Superfast
* Ferrari 365 California Spider
* Ferrari 365 GT 2+2
* Ferrari 365 GTC/GTS
* Ferrari 365 GTB/4 & 365 GTS/4 (Daytona)
* Ferrari 365 GTC/4
* Ferrari 365 GT4 2+2
* Ferrari 400i/412i
* Ferrari Testarossa
* Ferrari 456
* Ferrari F50
* Ferrari 550 Maranello/Barchetta Pininfarina
* Ferrari 575M Maranello/Superamerica
* Ferrari Enzo
* Ferrari 612 Scaglietti
* Ferrari FXX
* Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano
* Jaguar E-Type
* Jaguar XJ-S
* Jaguar XJ12 & XJ12C
* Jaguar XJ13
* Jaguar XJR15
* Lamborghini 350GT
* Lamborghini 400GT
* Lamborghini Islero
* Lamborghini Miura
* Lamborghini Espada
* Lamborghini Jarama
* Lamborghini Countach
* Lamborghini Diablo
* Lamborghini Murcielago
* Lamborghini Reventon
* Lincoln Continental
* Lincoln-Zephyr
* Lister Storm
* Lotec Sirius
* Maserati MC12
* Maybach 57 and 62
* Maybach Exelero
* McLaren F1
* Mega Track
* Mercedes-Benz CL600/CL63 AMG (W215)/CL65 AMG
* Mercedes-Benz S600/S63 AMG (W220)/S65 AMG
* Mercedes-Benz SL600/SL65 AMG/SL70 AMG/SL73 AMG (R129)
* Mercedes CLK DTM
* Mercedes-Benz CLK GTR
* Pagani Zonda
* Panther De Ville
* Panther J72
* Rolls-Royce Silver Seraph
* Rolls-Royce Park Ward
* Rolls-Royce Phantom
* Rolls-Royce Phantom Drophead Coupé
* Toyota Century
* Vector M12
* Audi Q7 (a turbodiesel engine)
* Lamborghini LM002 SUV

[cherylsteele]

calm down people, it's a v12.


that goat teeth thing is pretty funny.
I have a 4-cylinder Dodge Neon

what about you?

[clambake]

Never too late to resolve those issues with your mother!:wow
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Clammy;
Okay black interior, so what color is the exterior??? Do you have an sunroof and tinted windows??? What are you listening to your music on??? Not that this really maters.:toast

it's black on black (which is supposed to be rare, but how rare could it really be if it was on the showroom floor). sunroof, stereo that came standard (i'm actually drawing a blank on what kind, it was originally my wifes car but she wanted something smaller with better gas mileage).

we use it for travel all the time, up and down the west coast. mileage is already past the warranty.

it was me and the kid in it yesterday when some cylinders were not firing or mis-firing or whatever, and we thought it was going to blow. it was shaking so violently. i thought for sure the timing chain was going to break.

[clambake]

it's on that list but it's not anywhere close to being the more expensive ones, and we got a great deal on it because we have a 20 year relationship with the dealer.

however, they never cut me slack on repairs, but the service is fantastic.

[CosmicCowboy]

Even for a V12, platinum plugs, and high performance plug wires you got HOSED. I wouldn't call that fantastic service.

[Sportcamper]

I bet the V-12 is a Jaguar…They are always breaking down for no reason…Put at Chevy small block in it so you can at least drive it….

[angel_luv]

It is silly to me that you are being so mysterious about the kind of car you drive- especially since it is the internet and have to take your word for it.
I am grateful for the thread though since I am bored at work and it gave me something to read.

[Sportcamper]

Maybe he is embarrassed that the Jaguar dealership “stung” him for the V-12 that breaks down….

[CosmicCowboy]

You paid $1020 for plugs and wires for your V12?

Pfffffffft

I light my cigars with $100 bills.

[clambake]

i understand the new jags are supposed to be fairly reliable. i don't think i would be ready to buy one, however.

[clambake]

You paid $1020 for plugs and wires for your V12?

Pfffffffft

I light my cigars with $100 bills.

i would never try to work on my own vehicles.

hell, an oil change is anywhere from $110 to $150.

[CosmicCowboy]

you REALLY need to find another mechanic.

[clambake]

this is the same place that sold me a pacifica.

they felt kinda bad about that.

[clambake]

you REALLY need to find another mechanic.

what kind of work had to be done on your air conditioner?

how much for parts/labor?

[Sportcamper]

That cash for clunkers program is supposed to start on July 24th…Maybe you could get 4k on a trade in for a new Prius…In So Cal you can’t get the car pool lane sticker anymore but they come standard with the Obama Sticker…

[eyeh8u]

http://brandonshank.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/800px-wienermobile-bologna.jpg

[CosmicCowboy]

what kind of work had to be done on your air conditioner?

how much for parts/labor?

leak check, new compressor, dryer, refrigerant. $563 including tax. In and out in a half a day and 1 year parts and labor warranty.

[cherylsteele]

i would never try to work on my own vehicles.

hell, an oil change is anywhere from $110 to $150.
Until you say the kind of car, I am calling BS.

Even at a dealer it doesn't cost more than $100 for just an oil change.


this is the same place that sold me a pacifica.
they felt kinda bad about that.
Thye must not have felt too bad since they charged you that much for new plugs and wires, and an oil change is more than $100.

If you like throwing away money I han a old B&W Channel Master TV I'll sell you for $500. /sarcasm

[clambake]

you don't have to get so upset. this is socal and the price is not that unusual. it's also past it's warranty. oil changes/brake pads on MB still cost the customer whether it's under warranty or not.

[Wild Cobra]

I bet the V-12 is a Jaguar…They are always breaking down for no reason…Put at Chevy small block in it so you can at least drive it….
Bet it would run great with one of the new LS series engines...

Turbocharge an LS1 to 1200 HP...

[Wild Cobra]

i would never try to work on my own vehicles.

hell, an oil change is anywhere from $110 to $150.
Wow...

I can get an oil change from the dealer for $40 to $50. I do it myself though for much less.

Must be the fees for your oil recovery. Even at a dealer, it's only a few bux. Here, I take my waste oil to a local parts store and give it to them for free. Oil and filter... Wow, I forget, but I think it's about $25, and that's good oil. Castrol GTX. Not the best, but just fine for non race applications. I can see a filter and oil for a V-12 costing more like $35, maybe even up to $50 with top of the line oil. That's still too much in labor to pay.

[clambake]

Wow...

I can get an oil change from the dealer for $40 to $50. I do it myself though for much less.

Must be the fees for your oil recovery. Even at a dealer, it's only a few bux. Here, I take my waste oil to a local parts store and give it to them for free. Oil and filter... Wow, I forget, but I think it's about $25, and that's good oil. Castrol GTX. Not the best, but just fine for non race applications. I can see a filter and oil for a V-12 costing more like $35, maybe even up to $50 with top of the line oil. That's still too much in labor to pay.

don't forget about the fancy copper washers that need replacing with every oil change, and there's no way i'd do it myself.

and i think the R350 is a glorified pacifica.

[Wild Cobra]

Well, for the last several years, Mercedes has been a bad buy. Consider from a Consumer reports article:

Mercedes-Benz -- service reputation soon (http://blogs.consumerreports.org/cars/2006/11/mercedesbenz_se.html):
Cut to 2007: they're still expensive, but the premium brand's shine is being further tarnished as its vehicles' reliability continues to decline. In the latest Consumer Reports Annual Car Reliability Survey, five of the ten models with the most reported problems overall are made by Mercedes-Benz. Further, the carmaker also captured another three spots within the worst 20 performers.

[clambake]

i've been satisfied with their quality. i haven't had any of the issues that are listed in the article.

[Sportcamper]

Dude…You have a V-12 Mercedes? That is a niiiice car…

[Wild Cobra]

So which is it?

The CL:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/CL63_1.jpg/250px-CL63_1.jpg

The S:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/60/2007-Mercedes-Benz-S-550.jpg/250px-2007-Mercedes-Benz-S-550.jpg

Or the SL:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f1/Mercedes_SL_II.Facelift_front.jpg/250px-Mercedes_SL_II.Facelift_front.jpg

The way you scoffed at me calling a Z28 a sports car, I assume you have the SL, in the convertible version? One of these:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/64/IMG_4142.JPG/250px-IMG_4142.JPG

[clambake]

i don't exactly see it there.

mine is a 2006 S65 AMG. already have 70K miles.

[Strike]

i don't exactly see it there.

mine is a 2006 S65 AMG. already have 70K miles.

Richer.

[eyeh8u]

four door sports cars. haha oxymoron

[Wild Cobra]

four door sports cars. haha oxymoron
It's the type of car that has no [practical] place here in America. In Germany, you'll see those things going 155 MPH on the autobahns. It's a luxury crusier.

[eyeh8u]

It's the type of car that has no place here in America. In Germany, you'll see those things going 155 MPH on the autobahns. It's a luxury crusier.

yeah, four door sports cars really have no place in Germany either. Those MB torque monsters have ridiculous specs yet under perform. (comparing to its specs not other cars) i see no reason one would get a v-12 grocery getter. The only people that would race an AMG S are teenage boys that took out their dads car without permission, and thats not even real racing is street racing which is impractical also. Its useless having all that under the hood really, just more parts that can fuck up. It reminds me of when i first got my car, i put about 5 grand into a brand new car. And after all that i could have just gotten a faster sportier lighter coupe, thats when i had my epiphany, stop wasting start saving. Hp without performance is like have a big dick while being castrated, no matter how big it is you cant use it for half of what its meant for

PS my 25k japanese fwd 4door can get to cruise on 135 no problem no redlining, so 155 ain't a big deal for 100k more.

[Wild Cobra]

yeah, four door sports cars really have no place in Germany either. Those MB torque monsters have ridiculous specs yet under perform. (comparing to its specs not other cars) i see no reason one would get a v-12 grocery getter. The only people that would race an AMG S are teenage boys that took out their dads car without permission, and thats not even real racing is street racing which is impractical also. Its useless having all that under the hood really, just more parts that can fuck up. It reminds me of when i first got my car, i put about 5 grand into a brand new car. And after all that i could have just gotten a faster sportier lighter coupe, thats when i had my epiphany, stop wasting start saving. Hp without performance is like have a big dick while being castrated, no matter how big it is you cant use it for half of what its meant for

PS my 25k japanese fwd 4door can get to cruise on 135 no problem no redlining, so 155 ain't a big deal for 100k more.
Well, you need to wake up and smell the HP. It's rated at 612 PS, about 603 HP. They only top out at 155 MPH because of their electronic speed regulation that is factory set to 250 KPH. They are not harming the engine in any way like you do running at redline, it can do that everyday, for years. Remove the speed regulation, and they likely have the power to top 200 MPH.

It would be a great car to have commuting in Germany. When I lived there, I had a 1977 Firebird that could pass those cars. It topped out somewhere between 160 MPH and 170 MPH. My commute between cities was rather short, normally cruising at about 130 MPH. Wish I had that comfortable of a car when I took long cruises across Germany.

Myself, I would buy the BMW 7 or 8 series with their 6 liter V12 before the Mercedes.

[eyeh8u]

Well, you need to wake up and smell the HP. It's rated at 612 PS, about 603 HP. They only top out at 155 MPH because of their electronic speed regulation that is factory set to 250 KPH. They are not harming the engine in any way like you do running at redline, it can do that everyday, for years. Remove the speed regulation, and they likely have the power to top 200 MPH.

It would be a great car to have commuting in Germany. When I lived there, I had a 1977 Firebird that could pass those cars. It topped out somewhere between 160 MPH and 170 MPH. My commute between cities was rather short, normally cruising at about 130 MPH. Wish I had that comfortable of a car when I took long cruises across Germany.

Myself, I would buy the BMW 7 or 8 series with their 6 liter V12 before the Mercedes.


why do i feel like you are trying to teach me something i know, the fact is the car is a heavy ass, speed regulated car, most of the people who buy it drive it less that 6k a years, let alone have work done to it. i rather buy a 3 years old 120k msrp, 15k ODO, 911 turbo for 70k , At least specs and performance match.

Im saying the car has no real purpose to have AMG work done on it.

and btw my family sedan does 135 , steady no redline, so nothing go reread the post, and it wont harm the engine

[clambake]

ok....let's end this thread. we bought the car because my wife and kid spend time together, going from place to place. I wanted them to have a car that could get them out of trouble. it's fast, it's heavy.......it's practically bullet proof.


she no longer feels the need for this type of vehicle. that is why i'm driving it now. i still have my old car.......it is a 1999 C280 with 153K miles......that will be his first car when he turns 16........unless he turns into a dickhead.

[Sportcamper]

I drove a V-12 Benz…What a great car…I guess the V-12’s have built in counter balancing because opposing pistons are firing at the same time & make that huge engine vibration free…Smoothest engine ever made…Trade you a 454 Suburban for it straight up…Maybe I will throw in a gas card….PM me if sounds like a good trade...

[clambake]

I drove a V-12 Benz…What a great car…I guess the V-12’s have built in counter balancing because opposing pistons are firing at the same time & make that huge engine vibration free…Smoothest engine ever made…Trade you a 454 Suburban for it straight up…Maybe I will throw in a gas card….PM me if sounds like a good trade...

you know, the gas mileage sucks. i don't have any personal mechanical skills.......but i can tell you this. when those 2 cylinders were mis-firing.....we truely thought the car was going to explode. the only time i've ever seen a car shake like that was on a cartoon.