Is Obama's MOM a US citizen? [Archive]

Rogue

07-24-2009, 07:07 PM

ChumpDumper

07-24-2009, 07:14 PM

Even Obama himself wasn't a US citizen in his first several years of life because at the moment he got born, Hawaii was still an independent country. It was several years later that happened the complete union of US, actually Barack Obama immigrated into US together with an entire state.Hawaii was annexed by the US in 1898.

Hawaii became a state in 1959.

Barack Obama was born in 1961.

Bender

07-24-2009, 07:33 PM

^ lol Rogue

30 seconds of googling before posting can really help!

mookie2001

07-24-2009, 07:42 PM

yeah but at THAT MOMENT, it was several years later that happened the complete union of the US

whats so hard to understand?

Jacob1983

07-24-2009, 11:28 PM

Obama's mom is dead but she was a U.S. citizen. She was born in Kansas.

Wild Cobra

07-25-2009, 12:43 PM

Even Obama himself wasn't a US citizen in his first several years of life because at the moment he got born, Hawaii was still an independent country. It was several years later that happened the complete union of US, actually Barack Obama immigrated into US together with an entire state.
How does that add up? Obama was born in 1961. Hawaii became a state in 1959.

The question is weather of not his birth certificate is legitimate. I'm not sure that was ever settled.

ChumpDumper

07-25-2009, 12:47 PM

Well he is, in fact, President of the United States -- so it looks like it's pretty much settled.

Yonivore

07-25-2009, 01:43 PM

Well he is, in fact, President of the United States -- so it looks like it's pretty much settled.
Well, without joining in with the truthers on this...Presidents can be disqualified from office and removed. Taking the oath of office isn't an automatic immunity from future events that could disqualify you from being in office or being removed from same.

It's in the constitution...read it.

ChumpDumper

07-25-2009, 01:45 PM

Well, without joining in with the truthers on this...Presidents can be disqualified from office and removed. Taking the oath of office isn't an automatic immunity from future events that could disqualify you from being in office or being removed from same.

It's in the constitution...read it.Tell us all Yoni, do you personally believe Obama met the qualifications for citizenship to be elected president?

Yonivore

07-25-2009, 01:48 PM

Tell us all Yoni, do you personally believe Obama met the qualifications for citizenship to be elected president?
I have no idea, I haven't been following the story.

What I was pointing out, to you, was that just because he's now the president, matters that could disqualify him are not moot.

ChumpDumper

07-25-2009, 01:53 PM

I have no idea, I haven't been following the story.

What I was pointing out, to you, was that just because he's now the president, matters that could disqualify him are not moot.What matters?

You have no idea what they are, although you are joining the thuthers by hoping something could be true.

Tell you what, why don't you go off and educate yourself about this issue about which you admit being completely ignorant, and then let us all know if you think Obama meets the citizenship qualification for the presidency. I personally think Palin would have made an issue of it if the stupid claims had any merit. There was ample time before the election for Republicans to actually make a case -- they didn't.

Yonivore

07-25-2009, 01:55 PM

What matters?

You have no idea what they are, although you are joining the thuthers by hoping something could be true.

Tell you what, why don't you go off and educate yourself about this issue about which you admit being completely ignorant, and then let us all know if you think Obama meets the citizenship qualification for the presidency.
I'm sorry, I'm not that interested.

Would I be disappointed if Obama were removed from office? No.

ChumpDumper

07-25-2009, 01:56 PM

I'm sorry, I'm not that interested.

Would I be disappointed if Obama were removed from office? No.So you join the birthers from a position of complete ignorance.

Sounds about right for you.

Yonivore

07-25-2009, 01:57 PM

So you join the birthers from a position of complete ignorance.

Sounds about right for you.
You know, you're a fucking gnat.

ChumpDumper

07-25-2009, 02:00 PM

You know, you're a fucking gnat.You know, you are ignorant and a liar and a plagiarist.

Here's an article that sums things up nicely -- even including interviews with McCain's general counsel regarding the Obama citizenship question.

http://washingtonindependent.com/52474/mccain-campaign-investigated-dismissed-obama-citizenship-rumors

Let me know if you read it or choose to remain ignorant on this issue.

Yonivore

07-25-2009, 02:05 PM

You know, you are ignorant and a liar and a plagiarist.

Here's an article that sums things up nicely -- even including interviews with McCain's general counsel regarding the Obama citizenship question.

http://washingtonindependent.com/52474/mccain-campaign-investigated-dismissed-obama-citizenship-rumors

Let me know if you read it or choose to remain ignorant on this issue.
Aren't there more important issues?

ChumpDumper

07-25-2009, 02:08 PM

Aren't there more important issues?I would think that you would be concerned and in this case elated that Obama might not be qualified to hold the office. You decided to post in this thread, and I don't see you posting about anything else right now.

What's the problem?

Too many words for you?

Can't pass it off as your own now?

If you want to just remain ignorantly hopeful about this, it's your choice.

Yonivore

07-25-2009, 02:12 PM

i would think that you would be concerned and in this case elated that Obama migth not be qualified to hold the office. You decided to post in this thread, and I don't see you posting about anything else right now.
I decided to post in this thread because I knew it would wind you up. You're like one of those toys with the key in its back.

I post, you start nattering about like a little tin toy.

What's the problem?

Too many words for you?

Can't pass it off as your own now?
I think it's a non-issue unless it becomes an issue. Not something in which I choose to involve myself.

ChumpDumper

07-25-2009, 02:16 PM

You know you could have read that entire article in the time it took you to respond.

You really love being ignorant.

Yonivore

07-25-2009, 02:20 PM

You know you could have read that entire article in the time it took you to respond.

You really love being ignorant.
You know, you could just move on to another topic and quit buzzing around me like a gnat.

You really love being the fool to my straight man routine. I appreciate it.

ChumpDumper

07-25-2009, 02:22 PM

You know, you could just read the article and relieve yourself of the total ignorance you continue to show in this thread.

You really love being the ignorant, lying plagiarist. I appreciate it.

ChumpDumper

07-25-2009, 02:22 PM

:wakeup

Stringer_Bell

07-25-2009, 02:25 PM

Here's something to marinate on...

One of the best jobs to have on your Presidential Candidate resume is holding the Office of Governor. It's supposed to be a good measure of management skills. The Governor of California (a Republican), a crucial office in the US, was born in a foreign country and a few years ago there was talk about changing the constitution to allow a foreign born to hold the office of Presidency. I'd like to know if anyone has information on what the people (who I assume were Republicans, and probably still are) behind that movement think of the Obama "birth issue."

It seems to me like people are REALLY scared about Obama being Manchurian Candidate, but our own purebred Cowboy-way loving GW (who really had no genuine experience of the Cowboy character he displayed to the world) did so much harm to his own country by simply being "the decider" and nothing else. Take away all the fake outrage and see that, even if Obama was proven beyond a doubt to be foreign born, he's done more as a positive symbol for this country than most homegrown Presidents.

PS: Are the people discussing Obama conspiracies the same people that claim 9/11 was a conspiracy? Just wondering, cuz they look more and more similar as time goes on.

Yonivore

07-25-2009, 02:26 PM

I appreciate it.
That's weird...but, whatever floats your boat.

You know, I can actually visualize the key, sticking out of your back, rotating counter-clockwise.

ChumpDumper

07-25-2009, 02:28 PM

PS: Are the people discussing Obama conspiracies the same people that claim 9/11 was a conspiracy? Just wondering, cuz they look more and more similar as time goes on.Actually, Jerome Corsi, one of the lawyers who attempted to bring a lawsuit against Obama about his citizenship indeed tried to sue Bush and several members of his administration for causing the 9/11 attacks.

ChumpDumper

07-25-2009, 02:29 PM

That's weird...but, whatever floats your boat.

You know, I can actually visualize the key, sticking out of your back, rotating counter-clockwise.That's weird...but, whatever floats your boat.

I can actually see you lying, plagiarizing and being ignorant by reading your posts.

Wild Cobra

07-25-2009, 02:48 PM

You know, you're a fucking gnat.
That he is. That's why I seldom engage him in conversation anymore.

clambake

07-25-2009, 02:53 PM

That he is. That's why I seldom engage him in conversation anymore.

and he appreciates it.

Wild Cobra

07-25-2009, 02:54 PM

I think it's a non-issue unless it becomes an issue. Not something in which I choose to involve myself.
Well, I'm not going to worry about it any longer. I never heard this aspect of it before:
There was a birth announcement in the Honolulu Advertiser

Yonivore

07-25-2009, 02:56 PM

and he appreciates it.
And, the gnat has a sycophant.

Yonivore

07-25-2009, 02:59 PM

That he is. That's why I seldom engage him in conversation anymore.
Eh, he's a time-killer when I'm laid up.

ChumpDumper

07-25-2009, 03:27 PM

You guys sure like talking about me to each other.

Yonivore

07-25-2009, 03:29 PM

You guys sure like talking about me to each other.
No. I was talking about Clambake who was, apparently, responding on your behalf.

ChumpDumper

07-25-2009, 03:31 PM

That he is. That's why I seldom engage him in conversation anymore.

Eh, he's a time-killer when I'm laid up.Nope, that was about me.

Why do have to lie about something as trivial as that?

Is it just a compulsion?

Yonivore

07-25-2009, 03:33 PM

Nope, that was about me.

Why do have to lie about something as trivial as that?

Is it just a compulsion?
No, it was about me and what I do to pass the time.

A little narcissistic, are we?

Wild Cobra

07-25-2009, 03:34 PM

You guys sure like talking about me to each other.
Did I hear a gnat? Where'd I put that fly swatter?

ChumpDumper

07-25-2009, 03:34 PM

No, it was about me and what I do to pass the time.

A little narcissistic, are we?Apparently you are.

You were talking about arguing with yourself when you are laid up to pass the time.

Your lies have reached the point of self delusion.

Yonivore

07-25-2009, 03:42 PM

Apparently you are.

You were talking about arguing with yourself when you are laid up to pass the time.

Your lies have reached the point of self delusion.
Saying I play chess to pass the time isn't talking about chess, it's talking about passing the time.

Your inability to parse the English language is causing you all sorts of trouble in here.

mookie2001

07-25-2009, 03:44 PM

^i'll give theressurectedone an ROFL

ChumpDumper

07-25-2009, 03:45 PM

Saying I play chess to pass the time isn't talking about chess, it's talking about passing the time.

Your inability to parse the English language is causing you all sorts of trouble in here.So you were talking about playing chess now?

I'm sorry you are having a mental breakdown, but you shouldn't have lied so much.

ChumpDumper

07-25-2009, 03:46 PM

^i'll give theressurectedone an ROFLNo shit. What will his next screen name be once he embarrasses himself off the board again?

Yonivore

07-25-2009, 03:53 PM

So you were talking about playing chess now?
No, I was trying to simplify the argument for you, Chumpy. Saying what someone does to pass the time doesn't make that something the subject.

I'm sorry you are having a mental breakdown, but you shouldn't have lied so much.
I've been mistaken in here but, I've never lied.

Yonivore

07-25-2009, 03:55 PM

No shit. What will his next screen name be once he embarrasses himself off the board again?
I was think of, "ChumpDumper is my bitch." How's that sound?

I mean, it would give a certain artistic flow to our incessant back and forths in here, don't you think?

ChumpDumper

07-25-2009, 04:03 PM

No, I was trying to simplify the argument for you, Chumpy. Saying what someone does to pass the time doesn't make that something the subject.Sure it does. You just can't stand being proven wrong over and over again.

I've been mistaken in here but, I've never lied.You lied about not being TRO. You lied about writing all those articles yourself. You lied when you said you weren't posting about me to Wild Cobra.

ChumpDumper

07-25-2009, 04:04 PM

I was think of, "ChumpDumper is my bitch." How's that sound?

I mean, it would give a certain artistic flow to our incessant back and forths in here, don't you think?I think "Butthurt Ignorant Lying Plagiarist" would do just fine.

clambake

07-25-2009, 05:13 PM

No. I was talking about Clambake who was, apparently, responding on your behalf.

i wasn't responding for anyone. my statement to wc was more of a veiled request.

Yonivore

07-25-2009, 05:18 PM

i wasn't responding for anyone. my statement to wc was more of a veiled request.
Okay, who am I to argue? Certainly not ChumpDumper who would probably spend the next twenty posts calling you a liar...

I mean, usually when someone states, "and he appreciates it," they're speaking for the he who appreciates. But, I guess you could be an idiot that way.

clambake

07-25-2009, 05:22 PM

you shouldn't provide so much material that proves you're a liar.

and you should stay away from all threads regarding race.

Yonivore

07-25-2009, 05:27 PM

you shouldn't provide so much material that proves you're a liar.

and you should stay away from all threads regarding race.
You should never post, it only confirms your idiocy.

clambake

07-25-2009, 05:34 PM

you're more entertaining when you're lying.

you shouldn't post as yourself.

Yonivore

07-25-2009, 05:55 PM

you're more entertaining when you're lying.

you shouldn't post as yourself.
I've never posted as myself. You think my name is Yonivore?

sabar

07-25-2009, 06:45 PM

You would all find Chump quite likable if you watched him bait trolls instead of being the one biting on the line. Over and over again.

word

07-25-2009, 08:58 PM

When he travelled as a youngster, I wonder what country issued his passport.

That would tell the tale.

Upstate

07-26-2009, 04:10 AM

The only people who are interested in this are racist loons. If you want to be taken seriously you should stop talking about this subject. Even debating it on the side of logic lowers yourself.

Wild Cobra

07-26-2009, 10:34 AM

The only people who are interested in this are racist loons. If you want to be taken seriously you should stop talking about this subject. Even debating it on the side of logic lowers yourself.
No, that's playing the race card to say you cannot talk about the subject.

It has nothing to do with the color of his skin. Some people honestly believe he was born in (was it) Kenya.

If you want to be taken serious, you shouldn't jump to stupid conclusions.