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tlongII
07-28-2009, 10:17 PM
WTF?! This ain't Texas!

IronMexican
07-28-2009, 10:18 PM
It was in the low 90's and high 80's last week. We're back to low 80's and high 70's this week. Glad to have this weather back.

Frenzy
07-28-2009, 10:18 PM
not texas! wha chu meeeeaan!?

TDMVPDPOY
07-28-2009, 10:28 PM
WTF?! This ain't Texas!

why u complaining man?

u got hot chinese wife....now shake that thing bikini girl

Strike
07-28-2009, 10:31 PM
74 degrees in my air conditioned apartment, 104 currently outside.

Damn.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
07-28-2009, 10:33 PM
Quit bitching.

Strike
07-28-2009, 10:35 PM
I haven't been outside since I got home from work this morning. I got beer, smokes, snacks, porn, tv, DVD and air conditioning?

What the fuck else do I need?

Buddy Holly
07-28-2009, 11:00 PM
Portland is hot, flat and dusty.

Rogue
07-28-2009, 11:16 PM
The weather of Texas is always pretty dry so the air in Texas doesn't contain so much water vapor, which is the main "green house" gas in our atmosphere. Once you hear a big rain is forecast in Texas, then you'd better get well prepared for a storm or hurricane.

Wild Cobra
07-28-2009, 11:28 PM
74 degrees in my air conditioned apartment, 104 currently outside.

Damn.
lol... similar to my place. I didn't look at today's high, back down to 86 now that the sun's down. Yesterday it was 102 outside. In the low 70's inside though.

pawe
07-28-2009, 11:56 PM
117 in Mesa, AZ

760Spursfan
07-29-2009, 01:14 AM
86 in San Diego,Ca.

phxspurfan
07-29-2009, 01:16 AM
its 102 at 11:15pm here in Tempe...

phyzik
07-29-2009, 01:56 AM
unless you have had 36 straight days of 100+ weather and hardly any rain, you need to seriously STFU Tlong. :lol

Wild Cobra
07-29-2009, 02:07 AM
unless you have had 36 straight days of 100+ weather and hardly any rain, you need to seriously STFU Tlong. :lol
We are set to brake records for most consecutive 100+ degree days in a row here in Portland. If I recall, the record was set in 1981.

Thank God Global Warming has returned.

I was missing the summer. At least it started, even though late.

PuttPutt
07-29-2009, 02:12 AM
It hit 100 up here in the Yakima, WA area too. I drove down to The Dalles today & it was 104 or something when I was there. Supposed to be 100 up here again tomorrow & possibly through the weekend.

SpursStalker
07-29-2009, 07:19 AM
74 degrees in my air conditioned apartment, 104 currently outside.

Damn.

:lol

Right on!!

Strike
07-29-2009, 08:10 AM
Portland is hot, flat and dusty.

Huh?

JudynTX
07-29-2009, 08:47 AM
unless you have had 36 straight days of 100+ weather and hardly any rain, you need to seriously STFU Tlong. :lol

Word!!! :tu :ihit

CubanMustGo
07-29-2009, 09:57 AM
The weather of Texas is always pretty dry so the air in Texas doesn't contain so much water vapor, which is the main "green house" gas in our atmosphere. Once you hear a big rain is forecast in Texas, then you'd better get well prepared for a storm or hurricane.

Maybe if you live in the panhandle or west texas. The air over the eastern part of the state is plenty humid.

Wild Cobra
07-29-2009, 10:41 AM
It hit 100 up here in the Yakima, WA area too. I drove down to The Dalles today & it was 104 or something when I was there. Supposed to be 100 up here again tomorrow & possibly through the weekend.That desert area east of the mountains used to regularly get past 110. When I lived in The Dalles, one summer, I has 122 in my back yard, shaded.

The official temperature is at the Dallesport Airport, with the Columbia River shaping "U" around it. Get a few miles away, and it gets hotter than the official temperature!

And today, this will be the third day in a row the official temperature in Portland breaks 100. It will be the fifth day it breaks 100 where I live, deep SE, almost NW Gresham.

I live closer to the Gresham city center than the Portland city center, but have a Portland address.

101A
07-29-2009, 11:16 AM
Live in Western PA - high for the ENTIRE summer?

84!

Still getting into the '50's at night.

Haven't even had to turn on the AC.

CosmicCowboy
07-29-2009, 11:30 AM
The weather of Texas is always pretty dry so the air in Texas doesn't contain so much water vapor, which is the main "green house" gas in our atmosphere. Once you hear a big rain is forecast in Texas, then you'd better get well prepared for a storm or hurricane.

Huh? So where do YOU live? Here in SA we probably average 65-70% humidity in the summertime and that number goes up the closer you get to the coast.

Wild Cobra
07-29-2009, 12:18 PM
Huh? So where do YOU live? Here in SA we probably average 65-70% humidity in the summertime and that number goes up the closer you get to the coast.
I think the concept of humidity baffles some people. That would be horrible to have that high of humidity and that much heat. I don't think my area gets that much humidity. I think it's normally 30% to 40% in the summer, but I could be wrong. It was in the 20's I think in The Dalles. Rarely ever rained. The hot summers were bearable because of the low humidity. Never paid much attention to it for the Portland area. It's seldom feels muggy.

Strike
07-29-2009, 01:00 PM
Humidity in the Portland area usually isn't too bad. About 40 to 50% range, I think. Out in central Oregon it's much drier. 100 degrees there feels like about 85 in Portland. Much more bearable.

Jimcs50
07-29-2009, 02:10 PM
Huh?


Inside joke.

tlong has been calling San Antonio hot, flat and dusty for the last 9 years in here.:)

CosmicCowboy
07-29-2009, 02:14 PM
Inside joke.

tlong has been calling San Antonio hot, flat and dusty for the last 9 years in here.:)

Also claimed that Portland had the greatest team in the universe.

Wild Cobra
07-29-2009, 02:16 PM
Also claimed that Portland had the greatest team in the universe.Had, as in past tense.

They are now known as the Jail Blazers.

Jimcs50
07-29-2009, 02:19 PM
Had, as in past tense.

They are now known as the Jail Blazers.


not anymore, no player has been trying to smuggle marijuana on board an airplane in aluminum foil lately.:)

remingtonbo2001
07-29-2009, 02:30 PM
I wouldn't say San Antonio is dry. It's pretty humid here, despite the lack of rain.

Strike
07-29-2009, 04:08 PM
not anymore, no player has been trying to smuggle marijuana on board an airplane in aluminum foil lately.:)

Or been busted in his luxury car smoking the ganj out of a freaking soda can.

Strike
07-29-2009, 04:08 PM
Inside joke.

tlong has been calling San Antonio hot, flat and dusty for the last 9 years in here.:)

Got it. I was thinking WTF?

Buddy Holly
07-29-2009, 09:07 PM
Huh? So where do YOU live? Here in SA we probably average 65-70% humidity in the summertime and that number goes up the closer you get to the coast.

Dude, no. It's never a 65-70% average. It's that high early in the morning but the temps are low.

When it's hot, in the mid 90's, the humdity is mid 40's and lower. When it's near 100 or over the humidity is much lower, between 20-28% or even lower.

Buddy Holly
07-29-2009, 09:11 PM
Got it. I was thinking WTF?

Yeah, just an inside joke.

Though, just so you know. SA isn't flat.

http://stonewallestatestx.com/images/amenities/5.jpg

http://stonewallestatestx.com/images/location/downtown.jpg

mojorizen7
07-30-2009, 06:10 AM
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d170/Sayahiei/weather-forecast.jpg

tlongII
07-30-2009, 09:33 AM
San Antonio IS hot, flat, and dusty and Portlad DOES have the greatest basketball team in the universe.

tlongII
07-30-2009, 09:39 AM
http://www.dwellingsuites.com/Downtown_San_Antonio.jpg

Hot. Flat. Dusty.

exstatic
07-30-2009, 10:09 AM
Not even the greatest team in their conference...
http://files.hoopsworld.com/img/Buzzer_Lakers_Portland.jpg

lefty
07-30-2009, 10:11 AM
45 degrees Celsius today..................

Shelly
07-30-2009, 11:49 AM
Doesn't matter what the humidity is here in SA. If the dew point is over 60 degrees, it's muggy out.

CuckingFunt
07-30-2009, 12:08 PM
Though, just so you know. SA isn't flat.

http://stonewallestatestx.com/images/amenities/5.jpg

http://stonewallestatestx.com/images/location/downtown.jpg

I have no horse in this race, but that looks pretty damn flat.

Jimcs50
07-30-2009, 02:10 PM
Depends on what side of town you are on.

The Balcones Fault line runs down I 35 just about, so East and south, you have the coastal plains and North and West, you have the Texas Hill country formed from earthquakes millions of years ago. So that part od SA is very hilly, not flat at all.

Buddy Holly
07-31-2009, 02:00 AM
I have no horse in this race, but that looks pretty damn flat.

So you've confirmed you're either blind or just retarded.

johnsmith
07-31-2009, 06:16 AM
So you've confirmed you're either blind or just retarded.

God you're such a fucking twat. You show a picture from the one part of San Antonio with "HILLS" and claim that this represents the city. You know as well as I do that the south, east, west, and north parts of that craphole are all hot, dusty, and flat. You don't get into any "HILLS" until you go FAR NORTH, and even then you're damn near in another town.

Buddy Holly
07-31-2009, 02:41 PM
I'm going against my better judgment of just ignoring your lame retarded troll ass but screw it.

Here's the "flat" southeast side.

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/2684/seside.png

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/1320/seside2.png

These two pictures are taken two miles from one another.

Hell, there are differentials of 100 feet in elevation on the south side all within a 3-4 mile radius.

But I digress.

CubanMustGo
07-31-2009, 02:55 PM
Here's the deal.

People who live in most parts of TX consider elevation changes of a couple hundred feet "hilly." People who live in states with mountain ranges consider that "flat."

I grew up on the SE side, there are some nice hills (for Texas) over there, but to someone from CO or CA they're not even on the radar.

CuckingFunt
07-31-2009, 03:36 PM
So you've confirmed you're either blind or just retarded.

And you've confirmed the stereotype that Texans have such a hard on for their state that they become blind to the rest of the country. Congratulations.

Here are a few pictures of where I grew up, just for the hell of it.

Altadena, CA:
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/394/altadenapalmtrees.jpg
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/9906/3674980867cc6a49fec0.jpg
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/8581/1169922596.jpg
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/2866/altvis.gif

San Francisco, CA:
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/2259/336249915369623e3132.jpg
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/3259/hills.jpg
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/9721/sanfranciscohelicoptert.jpg
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/65/sfhillsviews.jpg


I have no doubt that San Antonio is a lovely city and worthy of your appreciation, but to suggest that it's anything other than a pancake is blind homerism to the point of laughable ignorance.

ChumpDumper
07-31-2009, 03:39 PM
Well, I've lived in places that are flatter SA is pretty flat.

Buddy Holly
07-31-2009, 05:41 PM
So it's either pancake or mountains? There's no grey area in between?. I'm sorry if I use the word flat by its definition.

A plain is flat. Hills are not flat whether they're small or big. What's so hard to comprehend.

Biernutz
07-31-2009, 06:35 PM
Who cares about Portland ---

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb270/systime/1221452572033-500x400.jpg

tlongII
07-31-2009, 11:01 PM
Look. I'm going to confess. I have been to San Antonio and I love the city. Maybe not as much as my own city, but I still think it's great. :tu

tlongII
07-31-2009, 11:28 PM
and I love where CF grew up too...

tlongII
07-31-2009, 11:29 PM
I fucking hate cats though...

Buddy Holly
08-01-2009, 02:09 AM
Look. I'm going to confess. I have been to San Antonio and I love the city. Maybe not as much as my own city, but I still think it's great. :tu

Hey man, my flat. hot. dusty was just a perfect timing to reference the past. Nothing personal. Portland's a cool place. :toast

But fuck JohnSmith. That nerd is just pathetic.

CuckingFunt
08-01-2009, 02:30 AM
So it's either pancake or mountains? There's no grey area in between?. I'm sorry if I use the word flat by its definition.

A plain is flat. Hills are not flat whether they're small or big. What's so hard to comprehend.

Yes. There's a grey area. But there's also an issue of perspective.

Calling San Antonio flat may not be fair, or even accurate in the strictest/most literal sense, but the pictures you posted don't stand out as overwhelming evidence to the contrary. My comment was, of course, a generalization and an exaggeration, but hardly a sign of either blindness or retardation coming from a person who grew up at the base of a mountain.

PuttPutt
08-01-2009, 03:15 AM
Growing up & living in SA for 25 years then moving to WA State & living here for 7 years.....SA is fairly flat.

Wild Cobra
08-01-2009, 11:05 AM
I fucking hate cats though...Then you might like this:

http://www.myspaceantics.com/images/funny/free-cat.jpg

johnsmith
08-01-2009, 07:29 PM
Hey man, my flat. hot. dusty was just a perfect timing to reference the past. Nothing personal. Portland's a cool place. :toast

But fuck JohnSmith. That nerd is just pathetic.

i guess I'm pathetic for calling you out for being an SA homer bitch. Dude, get out to the rest of the country and then form an opinion. Narrow minded fucks like you are what make people hate Texans.

PotKettleBlack
08-01-2009, 09:44 PM
Narrow minded fucks like you

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Extra Stout
08-01-2009, 11:59 PM
I think the Portland temperature is an exaggeration. The whole city was not that hot. Maybe it was 107 around the airport and west of town around Beaverton, but I hiked a few miles through Washington Park that day and it was fine. Downtown was fine too. I didn't feel hot until two days later up on a hill in Dundee, but that was probably as much the wine as the weather.

Houston has five months of weather worse than that every year.

tlongII
08-02-2009, 12:17 AM
I think the Portland temperature is an exaggeration. The whole city was not that hot. Maybe it was 107 around the airport and west of town around Beaverton, but I hiked a few miles through Washington Park that day and it was fine. Downtown was fine too. I didn't feel hot until two days later up on a hill in Dundee, but that was probably as much the wine as the weather.

Houston has five months of weather worse than that every year.

Dude, I live in Beaverton. It was not an exaggeration. It was triple digits today too.

johnsmith
08-02-2009, 09:25 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Dude, if you're going to make a troll, make it funny, and then make sure you aren't just randomly picking posts to reply too.

Nothing about my posts are narrow minded, and your troll sucks cock and loves every minute of it.

Wild Cobra
08-02-2009, 10:18 AM
I think the Portland temperature is an exaggeration. The whole city was not that hot. Maybe it was 107 around the airport and west of town around Beaverton, but I hiked a few miles through Washington Park that day and it was fine. Downtown was fine too. I didn't feel hot until two days later up on a hill in Dundee, but that was probably as much the wine as the weather.
The temperature varies a great deal in the Portland Metro area. We did have one day at 106, at the Airport. It was hotter is some areas like mine, and cooler, especially in the West Hills, where Washington Park is. Much of it depends on the time of year, and which way the wind it traveling through the gorge. In the summer, with an east wind through the gorge, my area, and the low lying airport area get a heat blast from the desert. An east wind in the winter is the opposite. Severe cold.

Beaverton is on the other side of the West Hills, and is completely shielded from any gorge wind. Dundee, also has it's own climate, and is a hilly area. West of Parrett Mountain and south of Chehalem mountain.

Buddy Holly
08-02-2009, 12:42 PM
i guess I'm pathetic for calling you out for being an SA homer bitch. Dude, get out to the rest of the country and then form an opinion. Narrow minded fucks like you are what make people hate Texans.

:rollin:rollin

Internet tough guys posting in their parents home make me laugh to no end.

johnsmith
08-02-2009, 07:36 PM
:rollin:rollin

Internet tough guys posting in their parents home make me laugh to no end.

Really? Really? The best you can come up with is "you live with your parents" smack?:rolleyes

Hey, when does the next TGI Friday's open up?

lil_penny
08-02-2009, 10:04 PM
It hit 100 up here in the Yakima, WA area too. I drove down to The Dalles today & it was 104 or something when I was there. Supposed to be 100 up here again tomorrow & possibly through the weekend.

Hey I'm from that hot shithole the dalles lol... that was before I moved to beaverton though wich was hot as hell last week also

Buddy Holly
08-02-2009, 10:20 PM
Really? Really? The best you can come up with is "you live with your parents" smack?:rolleyes

Hey, when does the next TGI Friday's open up?

Says the lame troll who can't come up with any type of original put down. Changing Best Buy to TGI Fridays isn't clever. :sleep

JudynTX
08-03-2009, 01:36 PM
:wakeup Place your bets!!! So far we've had 32 days of 100 degree temps......will we reach 60?

Buddy Holly
08-03-2009, 05:57 PM
No. I think we'll settle at 40-43.

Extra Stout
08-04-2009, 11:15 PM
Dude, I live in Beaverton. It was not an exaggeration. It was triple digits today too.
Driving back into downtown on the Sunset Hwy, as soon as I hit that decline about a mile from the 405, the temperature went down 8 degrees in like a mile.

Still, even if it is that hot, it wasn't that bad. Only people in Portland who don't have air conditioning should be allowed to complain. Anyone who has A/C and is whining about the heat is simply a puss.

Extra Stout
08-04-2009, 11:19 PM
BTW, what is up with people in Portland who are all, "Oh, it's hot outside, I should be able to walk around naked in front of children!" Seriously? Is that just a "I'm a total puss in the heat" thing, or a "Oh, gee I'm such a rebel nonconformist" thing, or a "This looks like a good excuse to indulge my pedophilic fantasies" thing? Sickos.

spursfan1000
08-05-2009, 03:02 AM
Damn, San Antonio went through a bad week last week it was like 100+ everyday.

Wild Cobra
08-05-2009, 05:54 AM
BTW, what is up with people in Portland who are all, "Oh, it's hot outside, I should be able to walk around naked in front of children!" Seriously? Is that just a "I'm a total puss in the heat" thing, or a "Oh, gee I'm such a rebel nonconformist" thing, or a "This looks like a good excuse to indulge my pedophilic fantasies" thing? Sickos.It's the capitol of the North Left coast. There are some really sick people here.

JudynTX
08-05-2009, 08:08 AM
Damn, San Antonio went through a bad week last week it was like 100+ everyday.

Yesterday was the 39th day.

CubanMustGo
08-05-2009, 08:57 AM
Yesterday was the 39th day.

45th in Austin.

Extra Stout
08-06-2009, 01:13 PM
One other thing about Portland: its vaunted "smart growth." They claim that due to their enlightened liberal thinking, they have less sprawl than other American cities. It actually looked more spread out to me.

I checked the data -- not only does Portland have vastly lower population density than places like New York, Los Angeles, and Chicago, its density is barely half that of cities Oregonians like to look down their noses at, like Atlanta, Dallas, and Houston. Its density is three-fourths that of San Antonio. Its sprawl is worse than just about any other major city in America.

I also like their light rail, which nobody outside the downtown area rides, and their bike lanes on the freeways, which nobody outside downtown uses. Contrast with, for example, Denver, which is most frequently seen from the perch of a bike seat. Portlanders apparently are big on spending tax money to give the appearance that they believe in things they don't actually ever do.

I also like how they brag about their alleged diversity when their city is whiter than Sweden. Having sushi restaurants doesn't make you diverse, you idiots.

Portlanders overall are some of the unfriendliest, most sniveling, whiny hypocrites on the continent. They are the shittiest people I have ever met in America, hands down. The rest of Oregon is much better.

Screw you, Portland.

Extra Stout
08-06-2009, 01:18 PM
To any of you thinking of visiting the area -- they hate Texans and don't make any pretenses otherwise. If somebody in Portland is being polite to you, either you are paying them for a service, or they recently moved there from somewhere else. Otherwise, they are at best indifferent and at worst openly hostile.

I don't buy that it's just because of political differences. Seattle is not exactly a bastion of conservatism, but the people there are like an order of magnitude better human beings.

JudynTX
08-06-2009, 01:20 PM
To any of you thinking of visiting the area -- they hate Texans and don't make any pretenses otherwise. If somebody in Portland is being polite to you, either you are paying them for a service, or they recently moved there from somewhere else. Otherwise, they are at best indifferent and at worst openly hostile.

I don't buy that it's just because of political differences. Seattle is not exactly a bastion of conservatism, but the people there are like an order of magnitude better human beings.

Good to know, I won't ever travel to Portland. When I think of Portland, I think of it as the Meth capitol of the world. :wakeup

tlongII
08-06-2009, 01:38 PM
Extra Stout is on a roll! :lol

Wild Cobra
08-06-2009, 02:44 PM
One other thing about Portland: its vaunted "smart growth." They claim that due to their enlightened liberal thinking, they have less sprawl than other American cities. It actually looked more spread out to me.

I checked the data -- not only does Portland have vastly lower population density than places like New York, Los Angeles, and Chicago, its density is barely half that of cities Oregonians like to look down their noses at, like Atlanta, Dallas, and Houston. Its density is three-fourths that of San Antonio. Its sprawl is worse than just about any other major city in America.

Well, they started that mindset after the city grew to the current boundaries. Population density will grow over time. However, their plans are causing all kinds of havoc because of zoning.


I also like their light rail, which nobody outside the downtown area rides, and their bike lanes on the freeways, which nobody outside downtown uses. Contrast with, for example, Denver, which is most frequently seen from the perch of a bike seat. Portlanders apparently are big on spending tax money to give the appearance that they believe in things they don't actually ever do.

Yep, it's a fucked up city in that regard. Out city planners are always high or something, I think. The TriMet system is subsidized to a real high rate. Ever since the first rail was installed, voters never approve more construction, but we get it somehow anyway.


I also like how they brag about their alleged diversity when their city is whiter than Sweden. Having sushi restaurants doesn't make you diverse, you idiots.

"The City that Dreams." I think that was one entry for the new city motto.

We were real diversified in the 1800's. Portland was the port of entry for so many "Shanghai" orientals!

wiki: Shanghaiing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghaiing)
The role of crimps and the practice of shanghaiing resulted from a combination of laws, economic conditions, and practical considerations that existed on the American west coast in the mid-1800s. Crimps flourished in port cities like San Francisco in California, Portland and Astoria in Oregon, and Seattle and Port Townsend in Washington.There are all kinds of old tunnels under the city.


Portlanders overall are some of the unfriendliest, most sniveling, whiny hypocrites on the continent. They are the shittiest people I have ever met in America, hands down. The rest of Oregon is much better.

Yes, there are many who are just like that. Like I always point out, the Capitol of the North Left coat!

Avoid downtown. Go to an outlying town, or the outskirts of Portland.


To any of you thinking of visiting the area -- they hate Texans and don't make any pretenses otherwise. If somebody in Portland is being polite to you, either you are paying them for a service, or they recently moved there from somewhere else. Otherwise, they are at best indifferent and at worst openly hostile.

Wow, what part of town were you in. It's not quite that bad.

Good to know, I won't ever travel to Portland. When I think of Portland, I think of it as the Meth capitol of the world. :wakeup
It is that too. Gotta love the motto: "The City that Works." We have more strip clubs per capita in the USA and more breweries per capita in the world. At least we have some good things too.

CubanMustGo
08-06-2009, 02:50 PM
At least we have some good things too.

The weather is nice, it's scenic, there are plenty of things to do outdoors, and they pump your gas for you.

Extra Stout
08-06-2009, 04:54 PM
and they pump your gas for you.
You pay handsomely for the privilege -- probably 20 cents a gallon. You don't have the option of self-service; if you pump your own gas, it's a $1500 fine.

SAGambler
08-07-2009, 10:54 AM
Dude, no. It's never a 65-70% average. It's that high early in the morning but the temps are low.

When it's hot, in the mid 90's, the humdity is mid 40's and lower. When it's near 100 or over the humidity is much lower, between 20-28% or even lower.

I suspect he meant "dew point" which is entirely different than humidity.

Wild Cobra
08-07-2009, 04:50 PM
You pay handsomely for the privilege -- probably 20 cents a gallon. You don't have the option of self-service; if you pump your own gas, it's a $1500 fine.No, it probably adds 3 to 5 cents a gallon at the most. The primary difference I think is the state tax of fuel, then Portland has a city tax too. I get my gas in Gresham, and it's cheaper than Portland. Then I can walk to Gresham city center faster than into the Portland city center also. Since we have a price per gallon tax, and no sales tax, when gas was near $4.00 a gallon, we were cheaper than most places in the nation!