Need advice/ To pay or not?

[Spursmania]

I have a live-in helper/lady that has worked for us 6 years. When we lived in our old house and put it up for sale, I began missing a few very expensive jewelry items. (I'm talking about 4,000-6,000 worth). When I inquired about them, she said, I have no idea, so I thought maybe it was the realtors and their clients. Of course, I had no proof, so I hid my jewelry box. Remember she lives with us.

We moved into our new house in 2007. There were plenty of workers who worked in my home, but not in my bedroom. I lost my Breitling gold and diamond watch (4,500) worth and a few John Hardy and Yurman pieces. I noticed the watch right away since I would it wear everyday. I noticed the other items when I wanted to wear them, and they were not in my box. Some items matched like the earrings with the necklace, so I find it hard to believe that a worker would know there is a matching set and have the time to find it in my box. It is a very large box with several compartments.

Also, I've lost 2 dolce gabbana limited edition razr's a couple year ago. I thought I just misplaced them. I also lost my iphone a few months ago and had to buy a new one. Again, I have no proof. Well, she lives with us most of the time, and my Mom finally convinced me to check in her room. I used last weekend to search her room. I found my kids' earrings in her jewelry box. A lot of my costume jewlery in plastic box she had hidden. I found a few of my kids' wallets. My Kippy and BB Simon belts and other miscellaneous items. The items were nothing compared to the real jewelery I've lost but if she's taking small items, I don't think it's a stretch to believe she was the one who stole the jewelry.

I am giving her the boot now. Every Year in August, I give her a paid week of vacation. Now, I don't feel I owe her anything, especially since she won't be working for us the whole year.

Please tell me, When I fire her am I wrong to not give her her paid vacation week money? And, do you think it's reasonable for me to assume she's the one who stole the jewelry?

[angel_luv]

Do you have any sort of verbal or written agreement that she could hold you to- i.e. prosecute you over?
I would hate for you to set yourself up for a lawsuit, especially since you cannot prove she stlole your jewelry.

[CosmicCowboy]

I really can't believe you let it go on that long. I would demand she give the stuff back and throw her ass out and tell her if she filed for unemployment I was gonna file charges with the police.

[timvp]

Uh yeah you shouldn't pay the thief. And you should also confront her to get your stuff back. Tell her you'll call the police/INS.

[Spursmania]

Do you have any sort of verbal or written agreement that she could hold you to- i.e. prosecute you over?
I would hate for you to set yourself up for a lawsuit, especially since you cannot prove she stlole your jewelry.

No, agreement with her. We pay her weekly.

[Spursmania]

I really can't believe you let it go on that long. I would demand she give the stuff back and throw her ass out and tell her if she filed for unemployment I was gonna file charges with the police.

That's what my brother told me. She's just been with us so long. I feel like a complete idiot...:depressed

Should I check her bags and boxes before she leaves?

[timvp]

That's what my brother told me. She's just been with us so long. I feel like a complete idiot...:depressed

Should I check her bags and boxes before she leaves?

The more expensive things have likely already been pawned. File a police report and then you might get lucky and find your things in a pawn shop.

[angel_luv]

No, agreement with her. We pay her weekly.

I am sorry for all you have had to deal with and am glad she won't be able to take further advantage of you.

[I. Hustle]

/richer problems forum

[Spursmania]

I have already taken the valuables out of my house, so she won't take anything else before she leaves. You just can't trust people anymore...:depressed
I have to fire her tonight.

[Spursmania]

/richer problems forum

or taken advantage of forum:depressed

[BacktoBasics]

/richer problems forumBeat me to it.

[Spursmania]

The more expensive things have likely already been pawned. File a police report and then you might get lucky and find your things in a pawn shop.

I'm sure it has been pawned. I should have checked her room a long time ago.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

I don't understand the question.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

few things. first, is she legal?
i would confront her. i'd ask her about everything. ask her if she still has those other items. i'd give her an opportunity to come clean. i'd do that before i told her she's getting the boot.

[Spursmania]

I don't understand the question.

Since, I'm firing her for obvious reasons to me, do you think I am still obligated to pay her the paid vacation week she is due in August?

[I. Hustle]

I'm sure it has been pawned. I should have checked her room a long time ago.

/coulda shoulda woulda forum

[SpursStalker]

I really can't believe you let it go on that long. I would demand she give the stuff back and throw her ass out and tell her if she filed for unemployment I was gonna file charges with the police.

There should be no other answer but the one above!

[Spursmania]

few things. first, is she legal?
i would confront her. i'd ask her about everything. ask her if she still has those other items. i'd give her an opportunity to come clean. i'd do that before i told her she's getting the boot.

Yes, she has her papers. The thing is there is no way she will ever admit it. And, I still feel like shit for going through her room.

So, I don't know if it's worth telling her exactly why I'm firing her since I can't prove anything except for the items I mentioned above which have little value compared to the jewelery.

[pkbpkb81]

shot her

[Spursmania]

/coulda shoulda woulda forum


So tell me, do I pay her for the vacation week or not when I fire her?

[Spursmania]

So, does everyone think she did it?

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Uh, no to the vaca.

[pkbpkb81]

So tell me, do I pay her for the vacation week or not when I fire her?

hell no

[Spursmania]

shot her

I don't want to go to jail. I still want to watch the Spurs win another Championship.:lol

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Yes, she has her papers. The thing is there is no way she will ever admit it. And, I still feel like shit for going through her room.

So, I don't know if it's worth telling her exactly why I'm firing her since I can't prove anything except for the items I mentioned above which have little value compared to the jewelery.

eh. you shouldn't feel bad. you provided her with food and shelter for her and her family. she's ungrateful and obviously has no respect for you. i don't know all the facts, but she acted stupidly....this coming from a wise latino. toss her culo out!!!!!

[Viva Las Espuelas]

shot her
:lmao

are you foreshadowing?

:lmao

[JudynTX]

So, does everyone think she did it?

Yeah :lol

Sorry that happened to you. :(

[Spursmania]

Your answers help me because I don't want to be an asshole to someone who's worked for us for 6 years, but I am sure she did it. I do not feel she deserves the extra money, especially since the jewelery is worth so much more than the vacation week.

[I. Hustle]

hell no

Nigga she axed me!

[BacktoBasics]

Don't give her shit. Confront her. Its your home and you can go through her stuff as you wish. She doesn't pay rent and doesn't have a lease with you so there are no legal privacy issues with what you did. Plus you had probable cause. Deal with her face to face like a man and give her a chance to come clean.

Next time pay your help enough so they don't steal. Stingy richer.

[BacktoBasics]

eh. you shouldn't feel bad. you provided her with food and shelter for her and her family. she's ungrateful and obviously has no respect for you. i don't know all the facts, but she acted stupidly....this coming from a wise latino. toss her culo out!!!!!
Stupidly. :lmao

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Next time pay your help enough so they don't steal. Stingy richer.

Nice.

[SpursWoman]

Yes, she has her papers. The thing is there is no way she will ever admit it. And, I still feel like shit for going through her room.


You feel like shit because you busted a woman who has been stealing shit from your kids? And most likely, you? After you gave her a job and a roof over her head? :wtf

[Bender]

/richer problems forumlol, that's the first thing I thought too :lol

[Spursmania]

Don't give her shit. Confront her. Its your home and you can go through her stuff as you wish. She doesn't pay rent and doesn't have a lease with you so there are no legal privacy issues with what you did. Plus you had probable cause. Deal with her face to face like a man and give her a chance to come clean.

Next time pay your help enough so they don't steal. Stingy richer.

:lmao:lmao

[SpursStalker]

So tell me, do I pay her for the vacation week or not when I fire her?

If you pay her to go on vacation you're just as stupid, sorry!

Fire her ass and be done with it ...

[bigzak25]

why not pay for two weeks vacation!

[Spursmania]

Believe me she does get paid well. There are no issues there. She has her own room, plasma, A/c, kitchen, bathroom and it is on top of the garage and is seperate from the house. I work from home, and she helps keep the house and office clean. She buys whatever groceries she wants about (80.00 bucks a week).

She did ask me for a raise very recently. But, that's when my little girls told me they had seen some of their stuff in her room. So, that's when I checked her room.

I already have a few people lined up that I'm going to try. I just don't know if i can trust anyone after this. And, I need the help since both my spouse and I work.

[Spursmania]

You feel like shit because you busted a woman who has been stealing shit from your kids? And most likely, you? After you gave her a job and a roof over her head? :wtf

Just going through other people's personal items feels strange to me. :depressed

[CosmicCowboy]

Just going through other people's personal items feels strange to me. :depressed

She obviously didn't feel the same way.

Show no mercy.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Your answers help me because I don't want to be an asshole to someone who's worked for us for 6 years, but I am sure she did it. I do not feel she deserves the extra money, especially since the jewelery is worth so much more than the vacation week.tell her she's fired without that extra money you normally give her. if she complains about not getting it then tell her to pawn all the stuff she stole from you. case closed. that way if she did steal it, hopefully she has a conscience, she'll feel bad while pawning and spending it.

[bigzak25]

remember to sweep the leg when you fire her!

[Spursmania]

If you pay her to go on vacation you're just as stupid, sorry!

Fire her ass and be done with it ...

I didn't plan on paying her any vacation week. But today, I was speaking to a close friend of mine who asked me if she had done a good job, and I said "yeah, but she stole from me, although I can't prove it."

And, he sad, "hell just pay her." So that's when I decided to make this thread. I couldn't believe he thought that. Thanks for confirming what I think is the right thing to do.

[Spursmania]

remember to sweep the leg when you fire her!

That would be good...:lol

[BacktoBasics]

Are you in San Antonio?

[Spursmania]

tell her she's fired without that extra money you normally give her. if she complains about not getting it then tell her to pawn all the stuff she stole from you. case closed. that way if she did steal it, hopefully she has a conscience, she'll feel bad while pawning and spending it.

I like that. Thank you. If she complains, I will tell her that she's earned more than enough from pawning our belongings.

[Spursmania]

Are you in San Antonio?

Yes.

[I. Hustle]

http://discussions.texasbowhunter.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=103671&d=1245685948

[I. Hustle]

remember to sweep the leg when you fire her!

F YOU! I was looking for a good pic. Damnit!

[Spursmania]

http://discussions.texasbowhunter.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=103671&d=1245685948

:lmao

Thanks guys, I feel certain firing her without the extra pay is the morally rght thing to do now.

[Chingo Bling]

How jou know know it was her and not jour husband? Maybe he's got a drug problem.
Pinche rishers!

[Fillmoe]

dude you can hire me if ur gonna give me all that shit... and i promise ill only steal 1 thing per year

[timvp]

If you want to prove she's a thief, set up a hidden camera and brag about new jewelry.

[Shelly]

Fire her ass and clean your own damn house! :p:

[Spursmania]

If you want to prove she's a thief, set up a hidden camera and brag about new jewelry.

:toastNot a bad idea.

Anyone know where I can get a spycam to put in her room?
I'm giving her 1 weeks notice, so she'll be out by Friday the 7th. Seriously, I want to set one up, so if anyone know about how this stuff works let me know.

[Spursmania]

Fire her ass and clean your own damn house! :p:

:p:

[SpursWoman]

I would already have had all of her shit in the front yard by now. :lol

[BacktoBasics]

Catching her in the act might result in the return of your property if she gave some of your items to family members or a pawn shop.

[Spursmania]

dude you can hire me if ur gonna give me all that shit... and i promise ill only steal 1 thing per year

:lol Well one thing a year is better than all the stuff she's taken from us.
And, I don't even want to think about the items I don't even know about.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

:toastNot a bad idea.

Anyone know where I can get a spycam to put in her room?
I'm giving her 1 weeks notice, so she'll be out by Friday the 7th. Seriously, I want to set one up, so if anyone know about how this stuff works let me know.

you're giving her a week? and letting her stay in your house that week? i think that's a bad move, personally.

[BacktoBasics]

:lol Well one thing a year is better than all the stuff she's taken from us.
And, I don't even want to think about the items I don't even know about.I own a janitorial and maid company. I highly recommend that the next person you hire be bonded and insured. You could have recouped your losses had you hired someone legit.

[BacktoBasics]

you're giving her a week? and letting her stay in your house that week? i think that's a bad move, personally.Unless he's trying to catch her in the act otherwise letting her stay is a horrible idea. Unless he wants to hit it one more time.

[Shelly]

Unless he's trying to catch her in the act otherwise letting her stay is a horrible idea. Unless he wants to hit it one more time.

He is a She, I believe

[Slydragon]

Wtf your helper lady sure is helping herself to a lot of your shit. Kick her ass out.

[BacktoBasics]

He is a She, I believeWHATEVER!!!!!:rolleyes

[BacktoBasics]

Maybe she wants to hit it one more time.

[Spursmania]

I would already have had all of her shit in the front yard by now. :lol

You and my brother are strong as hell.:toast Even though I know she stole from me, I would feel bad putting her out without letting her get her shit together and making arrangements to go back home.



Catching her in the act might result in the return of your property if she gave some of your items to family members or a pawn shop.

Now, you guys are thinking! Maybe I can bust her in the act. I wonder if the SPY place is still open here in SA.


you're giving her a week? and letting her stay in your house that week? i think that's a bad move, personally.

She's from Mexico and has no other place to stay. Plus, she has a lot of stuff here. A closet full of clothes, purses, boxes of other shit. Seriously, I was shocked when I went into her room and saw all the stuff she has.

[Spursmania]

Wtf your helper lady sure is helping herself to a lot of your shit. Kick her ass out.

That's the plan. I'm going on the net to see if I can buy a spy cam. I'm seriously thinking about trying to catch her in the act.

[sabar]

/richer problems forum

That $4500 watch is worth more than everything I own that isn't a home/vehicle. :lol

You should invest your money better. Spend $4500 on large things that can't be pocketed. If I had thousands of dollars of jewelry/wallets/shoes or whatever, I wouldn't hire some illegal for $10 a week.

Just let her go. Catching her in the act isn't gonna get any of your stuff back. Its all pawned off by now and if she's a maid she can't afford to pay you back anyways.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

She's from Mexico and has no other place to stay. Plus, she has a lot of stuff here. A closet full of clothes, purses, boxes of other shit. Seriously, I was shocked when I went into her room and saw all the stuff she has.

bad move. she has to have friends. i'd have to be cold and kick her out right then and there. i'm not going to house someone for a week that i just fired. i'm just thinking of the worst. hopefully she isn't related to the other crazy that diced up her kid.

[Spursmania]

That $4500 watch is worth more than everything I own that isn't a home/vehicle. :lol

You should invest your money better. Spend $4500 on large things that can't be pocketed. If I had thousands of dollars of jewelry/wallets/shoes or whatever, I wouldn't hire some illegal for $10 a week.

Just let her go. Catching her in the act isn't gonna get any of your stuff back. Its all pawned off by now and if she's a maid she can't afford to pay you back anyways.

Well, she's not illegal and I pay her several thousands of dollars per year, so she doesn't get paid 10 dollars a week...:lol

You might be right about just letting her go and eating my losses. I was just thinking maybe she gave the jewelry to her family but then again, I doubt she would ever return it. So, maybe I won't do the spycam thing. :depressed

As far as investments, I work pretty hard as does my spouse, we can afford the items. Our investments are not dependent on extraneous items like jewelry, they are just gifts, but they meant a lot to me.:toast

[mrsmaalox]

:wow $10/week?? Where can I find one of these?

[Strike]

There's nothing to feel bad about. She dug her own grave by ripping you off. She doesn't have a place to stay? Too bad. She shouldn't have stolen from you.

As someone else stated, if she's living in your house with no lease/rental/boarding agreement, I'm pretty sure all bets are off. Your home is her place of employment. Where I work, loss prevention has the right to search my locker or my backpack if they have reason to suspect I'm stealing from the company.

Sounds to me like you have enough evidence to prove she ripped you off. You should feel free to fire her and pay her only for time she has worked but has yet to be paid for. If you had to let her go for financial reasons, I could see feeling bad. But, this bitch ripped off you and your family. As sensei Kreese says....NO MERCY!!!

Fire her, kick her out immediately, give her a day to get all her shit out. Done.

[Shelly]

Oh, and go in her room again and get all your stuff back that's left before she's given the heave ho!

[Viva Las Espuelas]

food for thought
http://findmeaninja.com/pages/Shoulda%20been%20a%20ninja/Images/Yolanda%20saldivar.jpg

[Spursmania]

Oh, and go in her room again and get all your stuff back that's left before she's given the heave ho!

Yes, I shall!

[Dro210]

You definatly shouldn't feel bad about firing her and not paying for a vacation. The vacation is a reward, and she certainly did not earn it. It's nice of you to let her have the week to get set up to return home, although I agree with the others that it could be a risk. Plus, does she really deserve the courtesy? Anyway, hopfully it all works out for you and ends smoothly.

and on another note... wanna be my sugarmama? lol :p

[duncan228]

If someone was stealing from me I couldn't let them stay, even if I didn't have real 'proof'. You know she stole from your kids, that would be enough for me to get her out of my house. I'd supervise her packing to be sure nothing else is mine and I'd show her the door. Be sure to change the locks if she had a key. All trust is gone, so no need to stand on courtesy.

She doesn't deserve any kindness, she stole from you. Violated your trust in your own house.

Paying for her vacation time is out of the question. She's no longer an employee and she's getting fired. There's no severance pay.

[Strike]

if someone was stealing from me i couldn't let them stay, even if i didn't have real 'proof'. You know she stole from your kids, that would be enough for me to get her out of my house. I'd supervise her packing to be sure nothing else is mine and i'd show her the door. Be sure to change the locks if she had a key. All trust is gone, so no need to stand on courtesy.

She doesn't deserve any kindness, she stole from you. Violated your trust in your own house.

+1

[sonic21]

If someone was stealing from me I couldn't let them stay, even if I didn't have real 'proof'. You know she stole from your kids, that would be enough for me to get her out of my house. I'd supervise her packing to be sure nothing else is mine and I'd show her the door. Be sure to change the locks if she had a key. All trust is gone, so no need to stand on courtesy.

She doesn't deserve any kindness, she stole from you. Violated your trust in your own house.

Paying for her vacation time is out of the question. She's no longer an employee and she's getting fired. There's no severance pay.

:tu

[Viva Las Espuelas]

if someone was stealing from me i couldn't let them stay, even if i didn't have real 'proof'. You know she stole from your kids, that would be enough for me to get her out of my house. I'd supervise her packing to be sure nothing else is mine and i'd show her the door. Be sure to change the locks if she had a key. All trust is gone, so no need to stand on courtesy.

She doesn't deserve any kindness, she stole from you. Violated your trust in your own house.

Paying for her vacation time is out of the question. She's no longer an employee and she's getting fired. There's no severance pay.
harummmmmph!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mark in Austin]

If you are going to be so unbelieveably nice (naive?) to let her stay a week, then at the very least:

Change the locks to the main house. She can stay in the garage apartment but no acess to anything else valuable.

To be honest, out of concern for my kids safety, I would insist on her being out right away. If she was willing to risk stealing BIG ticket items before, now that she knows she's out in a week what if she gets desperate and does something worse?

[Slydragon]

food for thought
http://findmeaninja.com/pages/Shoulda%20been%20a%20ninja/Images/Yolanda%20saldivar.jpg

:hitit:

[Spursmania]

Thanks everybody, I'll let you know how it panned out.:toast

[PM5K]

I didn't read this whole thread but I think putting a camera in her room is a horribly bad idea, why wouldn't you put it in your own room where the items being stolen are located?

I'd just get her out and cut my losses, and next time invest in a safe.

[Spursmania]

I didn't read this whole thread but I think putting a camera in her room is a horribly bad idea, why wouldn't you put it in your own room where the items being stolen are located?

I'd just get her out and cut my losses, and next time invest in a safe.


Yeah, you're right, the camera should be in my room not hers. But, it's not going to change anything now, so I'm just going to fire her.

[PM5K]

Yeah, you're right, the camera should be in my room not hers. But, it's not going to change anything now, so I'm just going to fire her.

Yeah I just get the feeling that if you put up with it for so long, it's not a big deal to just cut your losses.

LMK if you need a new maid.....

[PM5K]

Oh yeah and Texas is an "at will" employment state so just tell her to get the fuck out....














(J.K.)

[Spursmania]

Well it looks like you got plenty of money so I guess losing those expensive items aren't making you want to kill someone but geez.. FUCK THAT SHIT! Give her the boot, call the police.. make a big deal out of it. So far she's taken you for basicly a new car and not to mention going through ALL your private stuff at home looking for goods to gank.


Problem is, even if I were to call the police, I can't prove it. The items are gone. And, yes I've been real pissed about it, but what can you do? Aside from firing her, nothing. I mean, I'm not a Soprano or anything.:depressed

[Pistons < Spurs]

Others have said it, but I'll go ahead and repeat it, I think it's a terrible idea to allow her to stay for an additional week after you fire her. There's no telling what might happen. Keep emotions out of it. She's already betrayed any personal trust there was. Firing her is a simple business decision, no need for you to feel bad or guilty. She put herself in whatever predicament she finds herself in. Your sympathy for her is misplaced.

And I'd strongly suggest you change all the locks to the house. You have no idea if she's made copies over the years.

[ChumpDumper]

Don't pay.

And yeah, change the locks -- and monitor your credit and accounts for awhile if you don't already do so regularly. There's no telling what she had access to.

[exstatic]

So tell me, do I pay her for the vacation week or not when I fire her?
No

So, does everyone think she did it?
Yes

[exstatic]

Don't pay.

And yeah, change the locks -- and monitor your credit and accounts for awhile if you don't already do so regularly. There's no telling what she had access to.

I'd actually put a credit hold on for all 3 credit report bureaus to call and approve all applications for credit.

As for the vacation, my company made us all sign something that says that they won't even pay us vacation we've accrued if we are let go. If it's good enough for the corporate world, it's good enough for you.

[exstatic]

Problem is, even if I were to call the police, I can't prove it. The items are gone. And, yes I've been real pissed about it, but what can you do? Aside from firing her, nothing. I mean, I'm not a Soprano or anything.:depressed

You don't have to prove anything to fire her. Do it. Boot her immediately. Change the locks. Put holds on your credit reports.

[SAGambler]

You might want to consult an attorney before you follow all the "great" advice here.

You may find you have broken the law and infringed on her right to privacy, when you took it upon youself to "search" her quarters without proof of anything.

You also may be required to give her at least 30 days notice to vacate her quarters.

Don't go off half-cocked and leave yourself wide open to a lawsuit.

[JudynTX]

Problem is, even if I were to call the police, I can't prove it. The items are gone. And, yes I've been real pissed about it, but what can you do? Aside from firing her, nothing. I mean, I'm not a Soprano or anything.:depressed

Why don't you tell her that you've had a spy cam in your bedroom for years and see what her reaction is? :wakeup Maybe she'll fess up. Yea right, what the hell am I thinking? :lol

[Spursmania]

You might want to consult an attorney before you follow all the "great" advice here.

You may find you have broken the law and infringed on her right to privacy, when you took it upon youself to "search" her quarters without proof of anything.

You also may be required to give her at least 30 days notice to vacate her quarters.

Don't go off half-cocked and leave yourself wide open to a lawsuit.

Thanks for looking out, but I'm definitely okay on the legal side--I'm pretty well versed in it since I have a JD:lol

My question was really a moral one. I wanted to know if people thought it would be okay if I didn't give her money for a paid vacation that she usually takes in August and I'm sure she is expecting. Just a moral question. Many of my friends always thought I was too nice but she was like family. She lived with us for 6 years, and she helped us during a lot of crazy times. I'm more disappointed than anything else. There are no contractual agreements between us. So, I am not worried about any legal ramifications.

[tlongII]

Is she hot?

[CosmicCowboy]

Give her one of these and tell her to get the fuck out!
http://www.unarco.com/unarco/cart.png

[Das Texan]

Idiot richer forum.



But seriously, you have nobody to blame but yourself for letting this go on for so long. And then you contemplate paying her vacation after stealing from you.


I need to work for you.

[Spursmania]

Idiot richer forum.



But seriously, you have nobody to blame but yourself for letting this go on for so long. And then you contemplate paying her vacation after stealing from you.


I need to work for you.

Hey, if trusting someone too much is the biggest mistake I've ever made, I'm okay with it! God has blessed me in innumerable ways with a great family and friends. You can call me whatever you want, but the bottom line is professionally and personally I'm grateful to God for everything I have been blessed with it's more than I could have ever asked for.:toast

[Silver21_Black20]

Hey, if trusting someone too much is the biggest mistake I've ever made, I'm okay with it! God has blessed me in innumerable ways with a great family and friends. You can call me whatever you want, but the bottom line is professionally and personally I'm grateful to God for everything I have been blessed with it's more than I could have ever asked for.:toast

Nice attitude. I would have reacted a lot differently than you have so props to you. Whatever you decide to do is ultimately up to you. You're the one that has to live with the decision so do what's best for you and your family. :)

[Viva Las Espuelas]

so what did you end up doing, SM?

[Chingo Bling]

Tell my prima that I'm going to beat her ass for getting caught.

[760Spursfan]

Obviously, if she had some smalll items of yours in her room then there is proof in itself that she can't be trusted. Confront her about the small items and see what kind of reaction she gives to you when she realizes that you caught her in a lie.

As far as paying her for the vacation I would say no but then again you sound like better person than I am. good luck

[Spursmania]

so what did you end up doing, SM?

Well, I waited until she left for the weekend to go through her room again. OMG!!! We hit the motherload!

That bitch had stuff in between her mattresses!! She had a couple cameras, CD players, and jewelery in between the mattresses. She also had many of my high end clothes that still had tags on them rolled up in a sweatshirts. The best part was finding a whole black bag of valuable jewelry she had wrapped hidden in between a sweater. Yes, this was worth a lot, and it made me realize how much and for how long she had been stealing from us. I am telling you, this bitch was a professional. I literally felt sick to my stomach.:depressed

She even had our stuff in her shoes! I kid you not. I found rolled up belts in her boots, and I even found one of my cell phones in her shoes as well. She had downloaded all her shit and had pics in it. Needless to say I was fucking livid!!!! I was shaking I was so pissed off. I could go on, but it's been a very long day.

We packed all her shit in trash bags! I picked up her Mexico passport and her documents and made copies of it and her social security card. I called the security guards up front and told them to barr her from entering and to take her name off our list. Thankfully, she had left the gate control so she couldn't use it to open the gate to our home in the event she somehow got passed the guards. But she did still have our keys.

When we went to pick her up, we retrieved the keys from her and told her she was fired for stealing and to GTFO. We told her we packed her shit in trash bags and when she could pick it up. She was Shocked! She looked like a ton of bricks just hit her. She was about to bawl, so we split.

That's the end of this awful story.:(

[resistanze]

LMAO! That's all I can say.

She seriously kept all your shit in her room?? :lmao

[Pistons < Spurs]

Pretty dumb to hide it all in her room, in your house. She was just begging to get caught.

Sorry you had to go through all that, but at least you were able to recover some of your goods. It's disappointing when someone you've trusted for years turns out to be such a piece of crap.

Consider it a lesson learned, and just move on.

[baseline bum]

Well, I waited until she left for the weekend to go through her room again. OMG!!! We hit the motherload!

That bitch had stuff in between her mattresses!! She had a couple cameras, CD players, and jewelery in between the mattresses. She also had many of my high end clothes that still had tags on them rolled up in a sweatshirts. The best part was finding a whole black bag of valuable jewelry she had wrapped hidden in between a sweater. Yes, this was worth a lot, and it made me realize how much and for how long she had been stealing from us. I am telling you, this bitch was a professional. I literally felt sick to my stomach.:depressed

She even had our stuff in her shoes! I kid you not. I found rolled up belts in her boots, and I even found one of my cell phones in her shoes as well. She had downloaded all her shit and had pics in it. Needless to say I was fucking livid!!!! I was shaking I was so pissed off. I could go on, but it's been a very long day.

We packed all her shit in trash bags! I picked up her Mexico passport and her documents and made copies of it and her social security card. I called the security guards up front and told them to barr her from entering and to take her name off our list. Thankfully, she had left the gate control so she couldn't use it to open the gate to our home in the event she somehow got passed the guards. But she did still have our keys.

When we went to pick her up, we retrieved the keys from her and told her she was fired for stealing and to GTFO. We told her we packed her shit in trash bags and when she could pick it up. She was Shocked! She looked like a ton of bricks just hit her. She was about to bawl, so we split.

That's the end of this awful story.:(

How can that be the end? Should have had her arrested for that shit too.

[PM5K]

Yeah that's strange. I know she lived there so that's the only place she had to keep it, but you'd think she'd steal it to turn around and sell.

Strange.....

[Spursmania]

Yeah, I think she pawned many items and others she was probably waiting to take to Mexico with her for herself and her daughter. She was set to go back in August for her vacation. I am extremely disgusted and disappointed...

I'm glad this happened now as she would have taken us to the cleaners had we left on vacation and left her to house sit.:dizzy

[TDMVPDPOY]

do you have a gun brother?

i say do you have a gun brother....

go invest in one and keep on the lookout.....

[pawe]

do you have a gun brother?

i say do you have a gun brother....

go invest in one and keep on the lookout.....

Good advice! Keep in mind she's been with you for a long time and Im sure she's aware of your richer status.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Well, I waited until she left for the weekend to go through her room again. OMG!!! We hit the motherload!

That bitch had stuff in between her mattresses!! She had a couple cameras, CD players, and jewelery in between the mattresses. She also had many of my high end clothes that still had tags on them rolled up in a sweatshirts. The best part was finding a whole black bag of valuable jewelry she had wrapped hidden in between a sweater. Yes, this was worth a lot, and it made me realize how much and for how long she had been stealing from us. I am telling you, this bitch was a professional. I literally felt sick to my stomach.:depressed

She even had our stuff in her shoes! I kid you not. I found rolled up belts in her boots, and I even found one of my cell phones in her shoes as well. She had downloaded all her shit and had pics in it. Needless to say I was fucking livid!!!! I was shaking I was so pissed off. I could go on, but it's been a very long day.

We packed all her shit in trash bags! I picked up her Mexico passport and her documents and made copies of it and her social security card. I called the security guards up front and told them to barr her from entering and to take her name off our list. Thankfully, she had left the gate control so she couldn't use it to open the gate to our home in the event she somehow got passed the guards. But she did still have our keys.

When we went to pick her up, we retrieved the keys from her and told her she was fired for stealing and to GTFO. We told her we packed her shit in trash bags and when she could pick it up. She was Shocked! She looked like a ton of bricks just hit her. She was about to bawl, so we split.

That's the end of this awful story.:(

i like your style, SM. i know it was tough, but it was something you had to do.

[JudynTX]

Well, I waited until she left for the weekend to go through her room again. OMG!!! We hit the motherload!

That bitch had stuff in between her mattresses!! She had a couple cameras, CD players, and jewelery in between the mattresses. She also had many of my high end clothes that still had tags on them rolled up in a sweatshirts. The best part was finding a whole black bag of valuable jewelry she had wrapped hidden in between a sweater. Yes, this was worth a lot, and it made me realize how much and for how long she had been stealing from us. I am telling you, this bitch was a professional. I literally felt sick to my stomach.:depressed

She even had our stuff in her shoes! I kid you not. I found rolled up belts in her boots, and I even found one of my cell phones in her shoes as well. She had downloaded all her shit and had pics in it. Needless to say I was fucking livid!!!! I was shaking I was so pissed off. I could go on, but it's been a very long day.

We packed all her shit in trash bags! I picked up her Mexico passport and her documents and made copies of it and her social security card. I called the security guards up front and told them to barr her from entering and to take her name off our list. Thankfully, she had left the gate control so she couldn't use it to open the gate to our home in the event she somehow got passed the guards. But she did still have our keys.

When we went to pick her up, we retrieved the keys from her and told her she was fired for stealing and to GTFO. We told her we packed her shit in trash bags and when she could pick it up. She was Shocked! She looked like a ton of bricks just hit her. She was about to bawl, so we split.

That's the end of this awful story.:(

Well damn......press charges on her ass.

[Spursmania]

Well damn......press charges on her ass.

The lady has no money. I don't want to see her thrown in jail. I truly believe she will get her due. Most people get what they deserve. I also just want to close that bad chapter in our lives and start anew.

The one thing I'm going to do though is call that weather lady Shioban Anders (the red headed meteorologist) she recommended her to me 6 years ago. I need to let her know she's a thief before this lady gets another job with one of her friends. I just can't find her number it's been so long.

[PM5K]

The lady has no money. I don't want to see her thrown in jail. I truly believe she will get her due. Most people get what they deserve. I also just want to close that bad chapter in our lives and start anew.

The one thing I'm going to do though is call that weather lady Shioban Anders (the red headed meteorologist) she recommended her to me 6 years ago. I need to let her know she's a thief before this lady gets another job with one of her friends. I just can't find her number it's been so long.

Where does she live, because I see this lady at the HEB in Leon Springs and she looks sort of like her.

[ploto]

The one thing I'm going to do though is call that weather lady Shioban Anders (the red headed meteorologist) she recommended her to me 6 years ago. I need to let her know she's a thief before this lady gets another job with one of her friends. I just can't find her number it's been so long.

Siobhain works for WOAI now. You can find her here:

[email protected]

Or you can find Steven here:

http://www.alamomaxillofacial.com/oral_surgeon_san_antonio/steven_b_buckley.html


Where does she live, because I see this lady at the HEB in Leon Springs and she looks sort of like her.

That's her. They live in the Dominion.

[exstatic]

If you haven't done it yet: CHANGE YOUR LOCKS. Also, change any security alarm codes. I'd also put a credit lock on with all three bureaus. She doesn't have to steal the cards to get the numbers and she has your name and address. She could apply for credit if she got your card numbers.

All of this might seem like a hassle, but it's better safe than sorry. You had no idea what she was capable of. Are you sure you really know now?

[phyzik]

I would have called the fucking cops, had her ass arrested and burned her fucking clothes afterwards.

You dont let scum like that go back out on the street to do it to someone else. You have a responsibility to your fellow man and you failed at it.

[PM5K]

If you haven't done it yet: CHANGE YOUR LOCKS. Also, change any security alarm codes. I'd also put a credit lock on with all three bureaus. She doesn't have to steal the cards to get the numbers and she has your name and address. She could apply for credit if she got your card numbers.

All of this might seem like a hassle, but it's better safe than sorry. You had no idea what she was capable of. Are you sure you really know now?

Very good advice.

[PM5K]

I would have called the fucking cops, had her ass arrested and burned her fucking clothes afterwards.

You dont let scum like that go back out on the street to do it to someone else. You have a responsibility to your fellow man and you failed at it.

I agree as well.

Not to be a dick but the next person might not be able to handle the monetary aspects of a situation like this as well as you might have, or they may loose items that have more than monetary value, or God knows what else could happen, a thief typically winds up stealing bigger, more valuable items as time goes on.

[Spursmania]

Where does she live, because I see this lady at the HEB in Leon Springs and she looks sort of like her.

She lives at the Dominion and I just found her number in my old agenda. I'm going to call her tomorrow and let her know because she has always wanted my lady to come back and help with Shioban's Mom who is a widow. I definitely have to warn her.

[Spursmania]

If you haven't done it yet: CHANGE YOUR LOCKS. Also, change any security alarm codes. I'd also put a credit lock on with all three bureaus. She doesn't have to steal the cards to get the numbers and she has your name and address. She could apply for credit if she got your card numbers.

All of this might seem like a hassle, but it's better safe than sorry. You had no idea what she was capable of. Are you sure you really know now?

Thanks, I've been a member of lifelock for years already... Identity theft is the fastest growing crime in America.

[Spursmania]

Siobhain works for WOAI now. You can find her here:

[email protected]

Or you can find Steven here:

http://www.alamomaxillofacial.com/oral_surgeon_san_antonio/steven_b_buckley.html



That's her. They live in the Dominion.

Thanks I did find her number and my spouse knows her husband so we'll get on it...:toast

[PM5K]

All's well that ends well, let me know if you need new help.

[Das Texan]

Fucking bitch.


Good thing you caught her and recovered some stuff.

[chode_regulator]

I don't knwo whats harder to believe...this thread started at all or is still going on.

How the hell do you let something like this go on for years? If youre that rich that you dont notice/care about your shit then fuck it and keep her working for you and keep letting your shit dissapear.

[newacc]

Gread read. You sound like a nice person but very aloof. Remember this experience and take it with you. People will steal your stuff if they're in your home. It's just too tempting for them because of the wealth disparity. For you something is just another piece of jewelry in a box. For someone else, it might be the start to a better life.

I hope you've concluded this but if not, lock your stuff up somewhere else. If you've got a 5k piece of jewelry in a box and a house keeper that vacuums in the same room, just put it in a SDB.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I would have had her ass arrested too. I can't stand people that take advantage of the trust you put on them. Fuck that bitch!

[Spursmania]

I don't knwo whats harder to believe...this thread started at all or is still going on.

How the hell do you let something like this go on for years? If youre that rich that you dont notice/care about your shit then fuck it and keep her working for you and keep letting your shit dissapear.


Fuck You! You don't know shit about what you're talking abut, so GTFO. This thread isn't about what we have and don't have. If you're so pissed because we have things, don't post on this fucking thread. Why the fuck should I feel guilty for trusting someone? No matter how successful one is, I doubt they enjoy being ripped off fuckface. I don't need a punk ass guy like yourself thinking you have the right to shit on us for having the privilege of enjoying the fruits of our labors. Fuck you!

[Spursmania]

I would have had her ass arrested too. I can't stand people that take advantage of the trust you put on them. Fuck that bitch!

Thanks Manu. I called Shioban today and told her all the stuff this lady did, so this bitch shouldn't be getting a job with the weather lady's friends anytime soon.

[Spursmania]

Gread read. You sound like a nice person but very aloof. Remember this experience and take it with you. People will steal your stuff if they're in your home. It's just too tempting for them because of the wealth disparity. For you something is just another piece of jewelry in a box. For someone else, it might be the start to a better life.

I hope you've concluded this but if not, lock your stuff up somewhere else. If you've got a 5k piece of jewelry in a box and a house keeper that vacuums in the same room, just put it in a SDB.

Some of your anger should be directed at yourself for being so naive. You somehow picked up zero street smarts growing up.

Believe me, no more trusting anybody. The moment we are missing something, I am going on attack mode. I appreciate your understanding. I have interviewed several ladies, and I already hired someone to start in a couple weeks. I told her I reserve the right to check her purse and room whenever I wanted and she was okay with it. I am also thinking of getting a cam installed in my room and closet.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Thanks Manu. I called Shioban today and told her all the stuff this lady did, so this bitch shouldn't be getting a job with the weather lady's friends anytime soon.
had she called shioban or her friends looking for a job?

[Spursmania]

had she called shioban or her friends looking for a job?

Shioban sounded tired this morning, I probably shouldn't of called her so early. :lolAnyways, she says my lady has not contacted her or her friends that she knows of yet. But she told me about a mutual friend of ours who got all her silver ripped off by some other helper.

My lady was good friends with the lady who works for Shioban and has worked for her for 16 years. My lady helped Shioban a few times also when her help was out. My lady had originally worked for Shioban's friend in Alamo Heights for a year or two before Shioban referred her to me.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Shioban sounded tired this morning, I probably shouldn't of called her so early. :lolAnyways, she says my lady has not contacted her or her friends that she knows of yet. But she told me about a mutual friend of ours who got all her silver ripped off by some other helper.

My lady was good friends with the lady who works for Shioban and has worked for her for 16 years. My lady helped Shioban a few times also when her help was out. My lady had originally worked for Shioban's friend in Alamo Heights for a year or two before Shioban referred her to me.

those damn beaners.

[ploto]

I am curious as to why you do not hire someone through a bonded and insured service. Are you paying her under the table? Is it just cheaper to pay some individual and take your chances?