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DarrinS
07-30-2009, 03:10 PM
Probably an old video, but it's the first time I've seen it.

Good for him.



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RandomGuy
07-30-2009, 03:17 PM
Meh.

Could have been handled better. More feel-good jingoism.

DarrinS
07-30-2009, 03:21 PM
Meh.

Could have been handled better. More feel-good jingoism.



I guess it just means more to him that it does to you.

Bender
07-30-2009, 03:31 PM
yep, old news. Cool though.

rjv
07-30-2009, 03:42 PM
and stealing and carrying a large knife in public is not illegal ?

ChumpDumper
07-30-2009, 06:19 PM
Armed robbery is ok if you love the piece of cloth you are stealing.

Yonivore
07-30-2009, 06:27 PM
Armed robbery is ok if you love the piece of cloth you are stealing.
Armed Robbery? You're one of those idiots that think burglary is robberty too, right?

ChumpDumper
07-30-2009, 06:29 PM
Armed Robbery?You have already proven your ignorance of the law. The owners of the flag were right there. There was a weapon and intimidation involved. It's pretty clear.

clambake
07-30-2009, 06:29 PM
Armed Robbery? You're one of those idiots that think burglary is robberty too, right?

whats a robberty?

Yonivore
07-30-2009, 06:31 PM
whats a robberty?
A misspellling...didn't mean to confuse you.

Marcus Bryant
07-30-2009, 09:42 PM
That'll show the brown man.

Yonivore
07-30-2009, 09:43 PM
That'll show the brown man.
Racist.

Marcus Bryant
07-30-2009, 09:56 PM
Yes, you are.

Yonivore
07-30-2009, 10:00 PM
Yes, you are.
Not me, I don't speak in terms that ascribe actions to a persons race. "That'll show the brown man," is a racist statement. You made it, I didn't.

ChumpDumper
07-30-2009, 10:18 PM
I can probably look up the sentencing guidelines to armed robbery in Nevada pretty easily, but I haven't been able to find the penalty for flying another nation's flag over that of the US. I'm going to guess the latter is a bit less harsh than the former.

George Gervin's Afro
07-30-2009, 11:18 PM
Usa! Usa! Usa! Usa!

Spursmania
07-31-2009, 07:06 AM
Wtf?

Oh, Gee!!
07-31-2009, 11:31 AM
it's criminal mischief at least

Spurminator
07-31-2009, 11:40 AM
And I'm proud to be an American
Where our flag flies higher than yours
And if you don't abide that law
I'll record myself marching over to your shop to cut down the flag and send it to the local news without talking to you, you stupid fucking Mexican.

TheProfessor
07-31-2009, 11:48 AM
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b264/Ka-zu-ya/tookourjobs.jpg

Oh, Gee!!
07-31-2009, 11:53 AM
i love how he crumples up the american flag. that'll show those messicans

Oh, Gee!!
07-31-2009, 11:54 AM
and he did steal that 'merica flag

Viva Las Espuelas
07-31-2009, 12:31 PM
and stealing and carrying a large knife in public is not illegal ?

Nevada

Summary: Generally OK.
Max length: None apparent.
Specifically illegal: switchblades, belt-buckle knives
Relevant laws: NRS 202 (http://www.leg.state.nv.us/ns-search/nrs/NRS_202.TXT?NS-search-set=%5C33627%5Csc1.627d26&NS-doc-offset=0&)

Viva Las Espuelas
07-31-2009, 12:32 PM
yeah. this was a bit much. destruction of property. i don't see the intimidation. one of him and two of them. plus anybody who was in the store, but i see how this would upset a veteran. doesn't make it right though. i think this happened last year sometime.

DarrinS
07-31-2009, 12:50 PM
1976: Baseball player, Rick Monday, steals American flag from two peaceful demonstrators.


For the record, I can't tell the skin color of the "victims" of this particular flag theft, so I can't truly judge Monday's motivation for this heinous crime.


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ChumpDumper
07-31-2009, 12:53 PM
i don't see the intimidation.Are you fucking kidding me? He brandishes a knife and wants to fight anyone who wants to take the flag back.

ChumpDumper
07-31-2009, 12:55 PM
[Nothing to do with anything]

DarrinS
07-31-2009, 12:56 PM
Are you fucking kidding me? He brandishes a knife and wants to fight anyone who wants to take the flag back.


We're all lucky to still be alive.

ChumpDumper
07-31-2009, 12:58 PM
We're all lucky to still be alive.An actual felony was committed in this case.

Viva Las Espuelas
07-31-2009, 12:58 PM
Are you fucking kidding me? He brandishes a knife and wants to fight anyone who wants to take the flag back.

yeah. he sure told that camera. poor camera.

Viva Las Espuelas
07-31-2009, 01:00 PM
An actual felony was committed in this case.
now this i gotta hear

clambake
07-31-2009, 01:01 PM
why aren't you guys guarding the border? all this time and you haven't managed to bag an illegal.

DarrinS
07-31-2009, 01:03 PM
why aren't you guys guarding the border? all this time and you haven't managed to bag an illegal.

I see dumb people.

ElNono
07-31-2009, 01:03 PM
How is the Mexican flag illegal?

ChumpDumper
07-31-2009, 01:04 PM
now this i gotta hearIf those are indeed the owners of the flag -- the photographer's questions imply just that -- it's armed robbery. Armed robbery is a felony in Nevada.

clambake
07-31-2009, 01:06 PM
I see dumb people.

it's your reflection.

z0sa
07-31-2009, 01:17 PM
Are you fucking kidding me? He brandishes a knife and wants to fight anyone who wants to take the flag back.

are you fucking kidding me. This guy is an example of an everyday American hero, stepping up and making sure not only was his voice heard, but the right thing was done. The person(s) who put the Mexican flag above our flag are the exact opposite if you ask me. Sorry if I turn a blind eye to a "by the book" charge against some mexicans who obviously don't love this nation and should probably be deported anyway. I won't point an obvious issue you missed: that they (the mexicans) were looking for trouble.

DarrinS
07-31-2009, 01:18 PM
are you fucking kidding me. This guy is an example of an everyday American hero, stepping up and making sure not only was his voice heard, but the right thing was done. The person(s) who put the Mexican flag above our flag are the exact opposite if you ask me.


Chump's ilk are the type that spit on this man when he returned from Vietnam.

George Gervin's Afro
07-31-2009, 01:21 PM
are you fucking kidding me. This guy is an example of an everyday American hero, stepping up and making sure not only was his voice heard, but the right thing was done. The person(s) who put the Mexican flag above our flag are the exact opposite if you ask me. Sorry if I turn a blind eye to a "by the book" charge against some mexicans who obviously don't love this nation and should probably be deported anyway.

Maybe he should just shoot them in the back when they are running away! A true American hero!

clambake
07-31-2009, 01:25 PM
Chump's ilk are the type that spit on this man when he returned from Vietnam.

nobody said he was in vietnam, dumbass.

ChumpDumper
07-31-2009, 01:26 PM
are you fucking kidding me. This guy is an example of an everyday American hero, stepping up and making sure not only was his voice heard, but the right thing was done.Armed robbery is not the right thing to do.
The person(s) who put the Mexican flag above our flag are the exact opposite if you ask me. I know it's against the US code, but what is the actual penalty for flying the US flag under another flag?
Sorry if I turn a blind eye to a "by the book" charge against some mexicans who obviously don't love this nation and should probably be deported anyway.I'm fine with both parties respecting the law. You obviously are not. What evidence do you have that they are not legal citizens?


Chump's ilk are the type that spit on this man when he returned from Vietnam.What evidence do you have that he was spat upon? And no, I'm the type that is against armed robbery for the purpose of correcting the relative heights of pieces of cloth.

Shastafarian
07-31-2009, 01:26 PM
are you fucking kidding me. This guy is an example of an everyday American hero, stepping up and making sure not only was his voice heard, but the right thing was done. The person(s) who put the Mexican flag above our flag are the exact opposite if you ask me. Sorry if I turn a blind eye to a "by the book" charge against some mexicans who obviously don't love this nation and should probably be deported anyway. I won't point an obvious issue you missed: that they (the mexicans) were looking for trouble.

Fuckin messicans and their national pride! Everyone knows all other nations suck.

DarrinS
07-31-2009, 01:30 PM
Fuckin messicans and their national pride! Everyone knows all other nations suck.


I don't care if the flag was from fucking Sweden. It doesn't fly over ours. This is not an anti-Mexican thing, as much as you guys would like to make it about that.

ChumpDumper
07-31-2009, 01:31 PM
Since it's "illegal" to fly another flag over the US one, what's the penalty?

clambake
07-31-2009, 01:32 PM
I don't care if the flag was from fucking Sweden. It doesn't fly over ours. This is not an anti-Mexican thing, as much as you guys would like to make it about that.

i know. now you've turned it into "spitting on a guy that came back from vietnam even though nobody said he was in vietnam".

z0sa
07-31-2009, 01:32 PM
Armed robbery is not the right thing to do.

Rewatch the video. He doesn't run up with the knife out while foaming at the mouth. He calmly pulls the flag down before he brings his knife into view. The mexicans couldve stopped him before he did anything without fear of the knife since he didn't brandish it til later. They just chose not to.


I know it's against the US code, but what is the actual penalty for flying the US flag under another flag?

Death, or an obvious inferrence that you don't like America. I forget.


I'm fine with both parties respecting the law. You obviously are not.

He didn't break the law. If he did, its not for armed robbery.



What evidence do you have that they are not legal citizens?

What evidence do you have that they are? Besides, I never "assumed", I justified my take with the fact they knowingly and willingly broke the law in a way that is extremely hurtful to most American citizens. Therefore, I must presume he/they isn't one.


And no, I'm the type that is against armed robbery for the purpose of correcting the relative heights of pieces of cloth.

armed robbery :lmao the guy used his knife to take the flag off the pole. He never intimidated the actual men there. The whole purpose of the final bit he did was that the American flag is more than just cloth, its something worth dying for. So come and get it if you want it back - they obviously don't care for it, so they won't.

DarrinS
07-31-2009, 01:33 PM
i know. now you've turned it into "spitting on a guy that came back from vietnam even though nobody said he was in vietnam".


I'm telling you. The man that cut down that flag is a Vietnam vet.

ChumpDumper
07-31-2009, 01:33 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2157/2446645253_80cbd9c0b8.jpg

Quick! Call Vets with Knives!

clambake
07-31-2009, 01:34 PM
I'm telling you. The man that cut down that flag is a Vietnam vet.

says who?

Shastafarian
07-31-2009, 01:36 PM
(c) No other flag or pennant should be placed above or, if on the same level, to the right of the flag of the United States of America, except during church services conducted by naval chaplains at sea, when the church pennant may be flown above the flag during church services for the personnel of the Navy. No person shall display the flag of the United Nations or any other national or international flag equal, above, or in a position of superior prominence or honor to, or in place of, the flag of the United States at any place within the United States or any Territory or possession thereof: Provided, That nothing in this section shall make unlawful the continuance of the practice heretofore followed of displaying the flag of the United Nations in a position of superior prominence or honor, and other national flags in positions of equal prominence or honor, with that of the flag of the United States at the headquarters of the United Nations.

z0sa
07-31-2009, 01:36 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2157/2446645253_80cbd9c0b8.jpg

Quick! Call Vets with Knives!

apples and oranges

Viva Las Espuelas
07-31-2009, 01:36 PM
Chump's ilk are the type that spit on this man when he returned from Vietnam.
along with a couple of others here.

DarrinS
07-31-2009, 01:37 PM
^ This is actually against Texas Flag Code --> http://flagspot.net/flags/us-txcod.html

Viva Las Espuelas
07-31-2009, 01:37 PM
i actually think texas is the only state that can.

clambake
07-31-2009, 01:39 PM
along with a couple of others here.

where did he serve in vietnam?

Viva Las Espuelas
07-31-2009, 01:40 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2157/2446645253_80cbd9c0b8.jpg

Quick! Call Vets with Knives!


:lmao

and you think palin is stupid....what an idiot


:lmao


the country of texas

:lmao

clambake
07-31-2009, 01:41 PM
the vietnam vet that wasn't?

Bartleby
07-31-2009, 01:42 PM
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ChumpDumper
07-31-2009, 01:42 PM
Rewatch the video. He doesn't run up with the knife out while foaming at the mouth. He calmly pulls the flag down before he brings his knife into view. The mexicans couldve stopped him before he did anything without fear of the knife since he didn't brandish it til later. They just chose not to.One need not be excited to commit armed robbery.


Death, or an obvious inferrence that you don't like America. I forget.Please let me know once you figure it out.



He didn't break the law. If he did, its not for armed robbery.He absolutely broke the law, and if those are the flag's owners, it is armed robbery.


What evidence do you have that they are? Besides, I never "assumed", I justified my take with the fact they knowingly and willingly broke the law in a way that is extremely hurtful to most American citizens. Therefore, I must assume he/they isn't one.How do you know they knew that is part of the US Code? You don't. How is it "hurtful"? Does it hurt people's feelings? Is that a crime now?


armed robbery :lmao the guy used his knife to take the flag off the pole. He never intimidated the actual men there. The whole purpose of the final bit he did was that the American flag is more than just cloth, its something worth dying for. So come and get it if you want it back - they obviously don't care for it, so they won't.If those were the flag's owners it meets all the elements of armed robbery in Nevada. I know you just want to support it because you are apparently hurt by the sight of some flag flying over that of the US, but if you actually claim to respect the law you can't support it.

ChumpDumper
07-31-2009, 01:46 PM
:lmao

and you think palin is stupid....what an idiot


:lmao


the country of texas

:lmao
(c) No other flag or pennant should be placed above or, if on the same level, to the right of the flag of the United States of America, except during church services conducted by naval chaplains at sea, when the church pennant may be flown above the flag during church services for the personnel of the Navy.
You failed once again. You must be going for the record.

ChumpDumper
07-31-2009, 01:48 PM
i actually think texas is the only state that can.
when it is necessary for the state and United States flags to be flown from the same flagpole, the state flag should be displayed underneath the United States flag.More fail.

Viva Las Espuelas
07-31-2009, 01:58 PM
More fail.
ah. must be confusing that with the six flags code. that one the texas flag is the highest.

DarrinS
07-31-2009, 01:58 PM
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clambake
07-31-2009, 02:00 PM
give us a break darrins.

a 5 minute video?

i'll pass.

cool cat
07-31-2009, 02:01 PM
Great videos! Saving the flag from being disrespected is an incredible sign of patriotism.

"A thoughtful mind, when it sees a Nation's flag, sees not the flag only, but the Nation itself; and whatever may be its symbols, its insignia, he reads chiefly in the flag the Government, the principles, the truths, the history which belongs to the Nation that sets it forth." -Henry Ward Beecher

"We Identify the flag with almost everything we hold dear on earth, peace, security, liberty, our family, our friends, our home... But when we look at our flag and behold it emblazoned with all our rights we must remember that it is equally a symbol of our duties. Every glory that we associate with it is the result of duty done."

DarrinS
07-31-2009, 02:02 PM
give us a break darrins.

a 5 minute video?

i'll pass.


I just thought it would be easier for you than reading.


And it does present both sides.

ChumpDumper
07-31-2009, 02:08 PM
ah. must be confusing that with the six flags code. that one the texas flag is the highest.What six flags code?

ChumpDumper
07-31-2009, 02:11 PM
I just thought it would be easier for you than reading.


And it does present both sides.I think they missed one side -- has anyone ever been prosecuted for something like this?

Since burning the flag is protected free speech, I don't see how this could actually be an enforceable law -- just a protocol guideline.

clambake
07-31-2009, 02:12 PM
And it does present both sides.

both sides of what?

z0sa
07-31-2009, 02:13 PM
One need not be excited to commit armed robbery.

he was neither excited nor committing armed robbery. If you think 12 jurors would find this man guilty of that crime, you're a dumbass. I know for 100% you're not a patriot already, so your answer here will pretty much sum things up for me.


Please let me know once you figure it out.

its Death.



He absolutely broke the law, and if those are the flag's owners, it is armed robbery.

Nope.


How do you know they knew that is part of the US Code? You don't.

Ignorance of the law is no excuse, first off. Second, you're either being facetious or you're just dumb. They know flying it above the American is wrong. If I saw anyone do it anywhere I could get to, I'd respond in the same way (not with a knife and cutting it down maybe, but bringing the flag down and taking it off the pole).


How is it "hurtful"? Does it hurt people's feelings? Is that a crime now?

To fly any flag above the US is against the law. It also tends to enrage everyone but those who should be deported. Therefore, expect angry people, and lots of them, to show up. And chances are, calling the police would be foolish. They'd arrive and if the flag hadn't been taken down already, they'd do it. Then they'd clear everyone up and leave. No armed robbery.


If those were the flag's owners it meets all the elements of armed robbery in Nevada.

Disagree due to circumstances. Again, no jury would convict him of armed robbery. I don't believe that's really even debatable.


I know you just want to support it because you are apparently hurt by the sight of some flag flying over that of the US,

I'm just defending the flag, what any patriot does. You are not one of us and therefore, have no idea why we would be distraught over the situation.

clambake
07-31-2009, 02:15 PM
he was neither excited nor committing armed robbery. If you think 12 jurors would find this man guilty of that crime, you're a dumbass. I know for 100% you're not a patriot already, so your answer here will pretty much sum things up for me.



its Death.




Nope.



Ignorance of the law is no excuse, first off. Second, you're either being facetious or you're just dumb. They know flying it above the American is wrong. If I saw anyone do it anywhere I could get to, I'd respond in the same way (not with a knife and cutting it down maybe, but bringing the flag down and taking it off the pole).



To fly any flag above the US is against the law. It also tends to enrage everyone but those who should be deported. Therefore, expect angry people, and lots of them, to show up. And chances are, calling the police would be foolish. They'd arrive and if the flag hadn't been taken down already, they'd do it. Then they'd clear everyone up and leave. No armed robbery.



Disagree due to circumstances. Again, no jury would convict him of armed robbery. I don't believe that's really even debatable.



I'm just defending the flag, what any patriot does. You are not one of us and therefore, have no idea why we would be distraught over the situation.
:lmao

Viva Las Espuelas
07-31-2009, 02:19 PM
What six flags code?
not the amusement park, idiot

ChumpDumper
07-31-2009, 02:23 PM
he was neither excited nor committing armed robbery. If you think 12 jurors would find this man guilty of that crime, you're a dumbass. I know for 100% you're not a patriot already, so your answer here will pretty much sum things up for me.No, I don't think he would be convicted by a jury -- but neither was OJ.


its Death.Nope.


Nope.Yep.


Ignorance of the law is no excuse, first off. Second, you're either being facetious or you're just dumb. They know flying it above the American is wrong.Says who? You have no proof of this. They might just be stupid.
If I saw anyone do it anywhere I could get to, I'd respond in the same way (not with a knife and cutting it down maybe, but bringing the flag down and taking it off the pole).I'd probably talk to the guy first -- but hey, I believe in the First Amendment more than I do pieces of cloth.


To fly any flag above the US is against the law.So who has been successfully prosecuted for such a display?
It also tends to enrage everyone but those who should be deported. Therefore, expect angry people, and lots, to show up.I counted one guy.


Disagree due to circumstances. Again, no jury would convict him of armed robbery. I don't believe that's really even debatable.Circumstances? What, you're claiming the guy was temporarily insane? I completely agree that nobody would want to touch that case with a ten foot pole -- Americans can be pussies when it comes to things like that.


I'm just defending the flag, what any patriot does. You are not one of us and therefore, have no idea why we would be distraught over the situation.I'd rather defend a person's rights in this country than your feelings about a piece of cloth.

z0sa
07-31-2009, 02:23 PM
:clap

Thank you.

ChumpDumper
07-31-2009, 02:26 PM
not the amusement park, idiot
(m) When the state flag is displayed with the flags of other states of the United States, nations other than the United States, and international organizations, the state flag should be displayed on the state flag's right, that is, the observer's left, on a separate flagpole or staff. This subsection does not apply to the United States or any agency of the United States, including the armed services, when federal law, custom, or practice dictates otherwise. The state flag should not be displayed above the flags of other states of the United States, nations, and international organizations on the same flagpole, and the state flag should not be displayed from a higher flagpole or staff.Strike three.

You failed.

z0sa
07-31-2009, 02:28 PM
Circumstances? What, you're claiming the guy was temporarily insane? I completely agree that nobody would want to touch that case with a ten foot pole -- Americans can be pussies when it comes to things like that.

They were breaking the law AND provoking people is what you do not wish to understand. If that guy didn't show up, someone else would. He took the law into his own hands in a way, but I don't see how he broke said law except by taking someone else's flag - He didn't rob them, he asked if anyone wanted it they could take it. No one answered his request. If you really think he was going to murder someone with a smaller than butterknife sized army-issue blade on camera (thus, ultimately television), I may be giving you too much credit.

clambake
07-31-2009, 02:31 PM
yeah chump, there was a small army beginning to form on the other side of that grassy knoll.

this lone patriot prevented all-out war.

z0sa
07-31-2009, 02:33 PM
yeah chump, there was a small army beginning to form on the other side of that grassy knoll.

this lone patriot prevented all-out war.

good take. You add something to the discussion constantly. What would we do without clambake gaying up threads with his self-perceived hilarity?

Viva Las Espuelas
07-31-2009, 02:33 PM
Strike three.

You failed.


:lmao

you're such a tool. monkey see. monkey do.

clambake
07-31-2009, 02:34 PM
good take. You add something to the discussion constantly. What would we do without clambake gaying up threads with his self-perceived hilarity?

why do you religious whacknuts always champion the gay?

ChumpDumper
07-31-2009, 02:34 PM
:lmao

you're such a tool. monkey see. monkey do.It's not my fault you were so completely wrong about everything you posted in this thread.

z0sa
07-31-2009, 02:38 PM
why do you religious whacknuts always champion the gay?

religious whacknut >>>>> anti-religious simpleton who thinks he's funny.

clambake
07-31-2009, 02:38 PM
religious whacknut >>>>> anti-religious simpleton who thinks he's funny.

tell us more about the gays.

z0sa
07-31-2009, 02:40 PM
tell us more about the gays.

i have gay friends and family. What would you like to know about them? That they like dick or vagina over dick or vagina? That they aren't butthurt everytime I drop the gay word around them?

clambake
07-31-2009, 02:43 PM
thats pretty good, little jesus. you got gay, dick, vagina and butthurt.

keep going.

z0sa
07-31-2009, 02:46 PM
..

baseline bum
07-31-2009, 03:39 PM
Too bad this wasn't in Texas; the owner could have shot the vandal.

ChumpDumper
07-31-2009, 03:40 PM
:rollin

rjv
07-31-2009, 04:10 PM
George Bernard Shaw (http://www.wisdomquotes.com/000525.html):

Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all others because you were born in it.

TheProfessor
07-31-2009, 04:19 PM
George Bernard Shaw (http://www.wisdomquotes.com/000525.html):

Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all others because you were born in it.

I'd wager that's the last time I'll see Shaw quotes here...

ChumpDumper
07-31-2009, 04:21 PM
An asylum for the sane would be empty in America.

rjv
07-31-2009, 04:28 PM
“Heroism on command, senseless violence, and all the loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism -how passionately I hate them! (http://thinkexist.com/quotation/heroism_on_command-senseless_violence-and_all_the/15328.html)”

albert einstein

TheProfessor
07-31-2009, 04:42 PM
An asylum for the sane would be empty in America.
:lol This is why I don't bet.

jack sommerset
07-31-2009, 05:17 PM
I wonder if that Mexican knew he was breaking the law? I doubt he was legal. He ran inside that bar fast. If he was legal I GURANTEE he had some working there that were not.

ChumpDumper
07-31-2009, 05:21 PM
I wonder if that Mexican knew he was breaking the law?What's the penalty for breaking that law?

baseline bum
07-31-2009, 05:27 PM
I wonder if that Mexican knew he was breaking the law? I doubt he was legal. He ran inside that bar fast. If he was legal I GURANTEE he had some working there that were not.

I take it glorifying the state is more important to you than free speech.

cool cat
07-31-2009, 05:30 PM
What's the penalty for breaking that law?

You get a pissed off vet who comes with an army knife to cut down the flag. Didn't you see the video?

ChumpDumper
07-31-2009, 05:31 PM
You get a pissed off vet who comes with an army knife to cut down the flag. Didn't you see the video?So there is no legal penalty.

OK. Thanks for clearing that up.

DarrinS
07-31-2009, 05:34 PM
"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything."

-Alexander Hamilton

ChumpDumper
07-31-2009, 05:34 PM
"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything."

-Alexander HamiltonI don't stand for pieces of cloth.

cool cat
07-31-2009, 05:34 PM
So there is no legal penalty.

OK. Thanks for clearing that up.

Pretty sad you needed it cleared up, but i'm glad I could help.

ChumpDumper
07-31-2009, 05:35 PM
Pretty sad you needed it cleared up, but i'm glad I could help.I'm being condescending to you.

I already knew there was no legal penalty for flying another flag over the US flag.

DarrinS
07-31-2009, 05:41 PM
I don't stand for pieces of cloth.


You should wear a swastika t-shirt to Walmart. Just a piece of cloth.

jack sommerset
07-31-2009, 05:43 PM
What's the penalty for breaking that law?

Don't know....What is it?

cool cat
07-31-2009, 05:43 PM
I'm being condescending to you.

I already knew there was no legal penalty for flying another flag over the US flag.

hehe, you really don't have to explain yourself.

ChumpDumper
07-31-2009, 05:43 PM
You should wear a swastika t-shirt to Walmart. Just a piece of cloth.I don't stand for those either. If you do, fine.

ChumpDumper
07-31-2009, 05:45 PM
Don't know....What is it?There is none.

jack sommerset
07-31-2009, 06:03 PM
There is none.

Not being a smart ass...... Why did they say he was breaking the law?

ChumpDumper
07-31-2009, 06:07 PM
The placement of the flag indeed violates the US Code regarding the flag -- but it is not classified as an actual crime and is not prosecuted as such. Considering the Supreme court decisions regarding flat out desecration and destruction of the US flag, a constitutional amendment would be required to make what the restaurant owners did a punishable offense.

LnGrrrR
07-31-2009, 06:27 PM
Uhm.. is it really illegal to fly another nation's flag? Weird.

ChumpDumper
07-31-2009, 06:28 PM
Uhm.. is it really illegal to fly another nation's flag? Weird.Depends on the position relevant to that of the US flag and your definition of illegal.

LnGrrrR
07-31-2009, 06:29 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2157/2446645253_80cbd9c0b8.jpg

Quick! Call Vets with Knives!

I've seen a few houses in Mississippi that fly the Confederate flag as high if not higher than the US. I'd call the police, but why should I do that when I've got kitchen knives all over the place? :D lol

LnGrrrR
07-31-2009, 06:33 PM
They were breaking the law AND provoking people is what you do not wish to understand. If that guy didn't show up, someone else would. He took the law into his own hands in a way, but I don't see how he broke said law except by taking someone else's flag - He didn't rob them, he asked if anyone wanted it they could take it. No one answered his request. If you really think he was going to murder someone with a smaller than butterknife sized army-issue blade on camera (thus, ultimately television), I may be giving you too much credit.

Well, the law seems a bit hazy. As Chump said, I'd like to see anyone actually prosecuted for it, as I'm 99% positive that the First Amendment would protect them.

It's not illegal to provoke someone by putting something offensive on your property. The point of the First Amendment is to protect speech we do and DO NOT like.

Marcus Bryant
07-31-2009, 06:33 PM
We might as well fly the Chinese flag over the White House. That would be accurate.

In any event, some of you need to have a beer or five.

LnGrrrR
07-31-2009, 06:34 PM
Depends on the position relevant to that of the US flag and your definition of illegal.

Well yes, I know all about flag positioning. We have to study that in the military.

I assumed it was just proper protocol, guidance, etc etc. I can't imagine it being actually enforceable by law, anymore so than using the wrong dinner fork for salad.

ChumpDumper
07-31-2009, 06:36 PM
I've seen a few houses in Mississippi that fly the Confederate flag as high if not higher than the US. I'd call the police, but why should I do that when I've got kitchen knives all over the place? :D lolThank you for your service, Vet with Knives.

LnGrrrR
07-31-2009, 06:36 PM
You should wear a swastika t-shirt to Walmart. Just a piece of cloth.

Do you feel that people should have the right to demand you remove such a shirt? Even at knifepoint, if necessary?

LnGrrrR
07-31-2009, 06:36 PM
Thank you for your service, Vet with Knives.

Hey, it's not easy self-aggrandizing and using my military service to force others to respect my beliefs, but I do what I can. :)

ChumpDumper
07-31-2009, 06:38 PM
Hey, it's not easy self-aggrandizing and using my military service to force others to respect my beliefs'Cause if they don't...[brandishes knife]

Oh, Gee!!
08-01-2009, 12:40 AM
He didn't rob them, he asked if anyone wanted it they could take it. No one answered his request.

so it's okay to take someone's property without their consent while holding a weapon and if they don't respond to your dare to take it back all is forgiven? what kind of fucked up society do you want?



If you really think he was going to murder someone with a smaller than butterknife sized army-issue blade on camera (thus, ultimately television), I may be giving you too much credit.

murder is or even attempted murder is not needed to prove armed robbery.

Oh, Gee!!
08-01-2009, 12:42 AM
You should wear a swastika t-shirt to Walmart. Just a piece of cloth.

in some parts of the country wal-mart probably sells those t-shirts