Does Boston or LA currently have the best 3-man front court? [Archive]

LnGrrrR

07-30-2009, 07:23 PM

I'm going Boston for defensive purposes. Perkins did a good job against Dwight Howard, and I think he'll step it up. Gasol and Bynum seem to be good scorers with ok defense, and Odom a good scorer with better defense.

Culburn369

07-30-2009, 07:23 PM

Geez, the youngster hit on a grand threadage. Good for you, DUNCAN.

DUNCANownsKOBE2

07-30-2009, 07:41 PM

Geez, the youngster hit on a grand threadage. Good for you, DUNCAN.

Way to jinx the thread :lol

picc84

07-30-2009, 07:41 PM

Edge to Boston. They have 3 defensive monsters, and probably the perfect anti-shaq frontcourt. Bynum is still unproven and Garnett/Sheed are probably better than Gasol/Odom.

Boston essentially has 5 all-stars on their team. And an improving bench.

Leetonidas

07-30-2009, 07:43 PM

It's hard to say. The Celtics definitely have the edge on the defensive end while the Lakeshow have the advantage on the offensive end.

I'm gonna go with the Celtics overall because KG and Sheed can ball and Perkins is underrated.

DUNCANownsKOBE2

07-30-2009, 07:43 PM

picc84

07-30-2009, 07:48 PM

Also, I want people to think about how much the league has improved. 4 years ago a team with Sheed, Garnett, Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, and todays Rajon Rondo would be hands down favorite to win multiple consecutive championships and be a dynasty. Even at their current ages.

This upcoming year they arent even the hands down favorite to win their conference.

I dont like what the league has turned into. Anything less than a stacked team and your not going anywhere. The 67 win Mavs from 2007 would barely crack 50 today. *sigh* Not supposed to be like this.

DUNCANownsKOBE2

07-30-2009, 07:59 PM

I dont like what the league has turned into. Anything less than a stacked team and your not going anywhere. The 67 win Mavs from 2007 would barely crack 50 today. *sigh* Not supposed to be like this.

Bottom line: the NBA needs a hard salary cap.

bostonguy

07-30-2009, 08:00 PM

^Sheed and RayRay are no longer all star level players.

I think Perkins is a large factor here. He's arguably become the best one on one post defender in the NBA, KG relies on him a lot more than most think.

They both need each other DOK. The Celts D suffered when KG went down for the year. At the same time if you replace Perkins, the D will suffer just as well especially against teams with strong frontcourts.

z0sa

07-30-2009, 08:02 PM

its c's unquestionably. IMO, this poll sucks at least for right now. Bynum hasn't proven shit other than he can play good for small stretches. That alone makes Boston's frontcourt much more enticing on paper. Bynum could step it up and play a big role this season, but you can bet on Artest taking his shots. They're going to have to come from somewhere.

DUNCANownsKOBE2

07-30-2009, 08:03 PM

But yeah, the top 3 teams in 2007 (Suns, Mavs, and Spurs), would arguably all not even be top 5 teams in today's NBA.

IMO, the current day Magic, Spurs, Lakers, Celtics and Cavs would beat all three of those teams. It's pretty remarkable how much the top of the league has improved. I would go on a broken record rant about how Suns fans don't understand this but I don't feel like it.

ginobili's bald spot

07-30-2009, 08:07 PM

Perkins is one of the best big man defenders in the league. But Rasheed is a shell of his former self and Garnett although good, is on a steep decline. Personally I'd rather have the Lakers front court. Especially if Bynum returns to his pre injury form (both times) and can actually stay healthy for once.

DUNCANownsKOBE2

07-30-2009, 08:07 PM

They both need each other DOK.

I agree, and that's my point. A lot of people think Perkins would be nothing without KG and KG makes him good, but KG wouldn't be able to focus on help defense and S/R defense if not for Perkins being able to guard the other team's low post threat so well.

DUNCANownsKOBE2

07-30-2009, 08:10 PM

And yeah, of course 'drew is the x-factor in this question. If he plays like he did right before his injury, LA's front court by a long shot. If he turns out to be a useless injury prone bust, Boston's front court wins.

KSeal

07-30-2009, 08:21 PM

Boston. Assuming Bynum sucks, if he doesn't then I think you have to give it to the Lakers.

If I was a fan of the Celtics I would have major concerns about KG though, the guy is 33 coming off a serious knee injury and has logged the most minutes of any player in the NBA right now.

tlongII

07-30-2009, 08:46 PM

LMAO at people saying the C's. Do you realize how much Sheed has deteriorated?

tlongII

07-30-2009, 08:46 PM

And Perkins basically sucks.

picc84

07-30-2009, 08:55 PM

Perkins is better than post-injury Bynum and worse than pre-injury Bynum. If the Lakers can avoid smashing into his knee this season I think we can see more of the latter.

iilluzioN

07-30-2009, 09:06 PM

DUNCANownsKOBE2

07-30-2009, 09:43 PM

And Perkins basically sucks.

Perkins > Oden

DUNCANownsKOBE2

07-30-2009, 09:50 PM

its c's unquestionably. IMO, this poll sucks at least for right now.

Um, I agree with you that the C's front court is better, but if it's a shitty poll, it sure as hell isn't because the C's front court is better judging by the results.

Amaso

07-30-2009, 10:33 PM

LA clearly has a better front court, and that's not even including Artest

Brazil

07-30-2009, 10:41 PM

Lakers. KG is declining fast and Sheed is no more than a very solid vet

Spurs_210

07-30-2009, 10:42 PM

Btw I went with Boston cause of its defensive intensity and versatility.
+1
If Bynum stays healthy and returns to his former self it could be the Lakers.

ElNono

07-30-2009, 10:44 PM

"Moving screen" Perkins and Bynum are head to head on suckage level IMO...

j-money24

07-30-2009, 11:21 PM

I would go with Boston because of its defense.

JamStone

07-30-2009, 11:47 PM

Lakers. Younger, more athletic overall, more versatile, better offensively, all still in the prime of their careers. Also, they have a slight edge in overall size.

Boston is still very, very good up front. But two of those three at the power positions are past their prime, and none are prolific scorers, not even KG anymore. The Celtics bigs are better defensively and probably are tougher. But, the Lakers overall are more talented, especially considering the stages of the careers of each respective player.

KSeal

07-31-2009, 12:15 AM

"Moving screen" Perkins and Bynum are head to head on suckage level IMO...

I'd take Perkins over Bynum right now. Perkins is a great defender and can actually make it through all 82 games. Bynum probably has more, what for it, potential but dude has to prove he can play more then 30 games each year.

kcplayboi_26

07-31-2009, 12:17 AM

Went with Boston

blink

07-31-2009, 12:56 AM

went with the C's because odom/gasol/bynum are some mixture of inconsistency/soft/unproven junk. though, when clicking on all cylinders would be retardedly sick. The C's are douchebags but bring it every night, minus the whiner sheed.

Allanon

07-31-2009, 11:13 AM

3 years ago, Boston.

Sheed's 35 years old
KG's 33 years old

Now it's easily Bynum,Gasol, Odom. Pau & Odom are in their prime.

Phillip

07-31-2009, 11:36 AM

Boston.

DUNCANownsKOBE2

07-31-2009, 11:42 AM

Regardless of age, IMO KG is still > Gasol.

Gino

07-31-2009, 11:46 AM

Talk about EPIC FAIL.

So Odom (who comes off the bench) is in the Lakers option but Paul Pierce (who starts at the 3) isnt in the Boston option?

Muser

07-31-2009, 11:48 AM

Lakers

DUNCANownsKOBE2

07-31-2009, 11:48 AM

Gino, I was talking about the PF and C position. Sorry if I didn't make that clear. Sheed is Boston's primary backup PF/C, and Odom is LA's backup PF/C.

Allanon

07-31-2009, 11:49 AM

Talk about EPIC FAIL.

So Odom (who comes off the bench) is in the Lakers option but Paul Pierce (who starts at the 3) isnt in the Boston option?

I think this is about matching Center/PF positions.

Bynum/Perkins
Pau/KG
Odom/Sheed

Gino

07-31-2009, 11:51 AM

Gino, I was talking about the PF and C position. Sorry if I didn't make that clear. Sheed is Boston's primary backup PF/C, and Odom is LA's backup PF/C.

Fair enough. Id still take the Celtics three over Gasol, Odom and Mr. "12 minutes/5 fouls" Bynum.

DUNCANownsKOBE2

07-31-2009, 11:56 AM

Fair enough. Id still take the Celtics three over Gasol, Odom and Mr. "12 minutes/5 fouls" Bynum.

As would I. I also think Sheed is being underrated here. He's obviously not the offensive weapon he used to be but he's still a great defensive rebounder. The best defensive rebounder on LA's three (Odom), might actually be a worse defensive rebounder than all three of Boston's players.

TJastal

07-31-2009, 01:06 PM

Boston, Perkins can hold hes ground and did well vs D Howard

I can see him giving a hard time to Bynum, but both plays will cancel each other out.

KG is the man, he will score on anyone, Sheed will do hes thing and nothing the lakers can do about it...

paul pierce (the greatest player in the world) will stop kobe

All the C's major players beside Rondo are rapidly approaching the end of their respective careers and their statistics are showing that decline.

Garnett has logged almost 40,000 minutes in the NBA. :wow

Pierce 30,000 minutes. Allen 35,000 minutes. Rasheed Wallace 34,000 minutes.

Wallace's "thing" is to sit out on the 3pt line and jack up 3's. This is going to help, how?

I think age is going to start being a problem with this team, and Wallace is going to be demanding a trade and getting T's by the dozen once things start to fall apart.

himat

07-31-2009, 01:10 PM

LA

But if you listed Bostons frontcourt correctly (PIERCE, Garnett, and Wallace) than I would go with Boston.

Pierce may not be a big man but he is still a forward.