Bucks released Bruce Bowen

[Bruno]

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/52214202.html

No surprise: Bowen released
By Charles F. Gardner of the Journal Sentinel
July 31, 2009 3:52 p.m.

As expected, the Bucks released veteran Bruce Bowen on Friday.

The veteran guard-forward was acquired in the June 23 trade that sent forward Richard Jefferson to the San Antonio Spurs.

Bowen was owed $4 million next season, but the contract was only partially guaranteed and the Bucks were able to realize a $2 million savings by releasing him prior to Saturday.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Let's hope he comes back home.

[anonoftheinternets]

Let's hope he comes back home.

no roster spot? who would you trade?

[DAF86]

So will we go for him? My heart says yes but my head is in doubt.

[xtremesteven33]

release Udoka....SIGN BOWEN!!

[rayray2k8]

release Udoka....SIGN BOWEN!!

Udoka is already a free-agent....

[Kermit]

Is Udoka still on the roster? I hope Bruce finds his way back.

[timvp]

Now the "Sign Bowen" talk can officially begin. Most signs point to him not coming back but I'm hoping the Spurs somehow dump Finley and then open up the room to bring back Bowen.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

no roster spot? who would you trade?

We can have more than 15 players under contract and will most likely cut Hairston or Williams after the camp.

[Marcus Bryant]

http://thestartingfive.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/bruce-bowen-up-to-his-old-tricks.jpg

Welcome back.

[hater]

No way they dump Finley for Bowen.

Spurs will take their sweet time to see how our youngns pan out. I see chances of Bowen coming back at 50%

[Dr. Gonzo]

Would he have to wait 30 days after being cut or is the 30 day no resigning with previous team thingy over?

[hater]

We can have more than 15 players under contract and will most likely cut Hairston or Williams after the camp.

wrong

[xtremesteven33]

Sign Bowen and call it a summer......Bowen is a Lakers killer!!!

[portnoy1]

I dont want him back as a player, but I'd love to have him as a coach. He can help the young guys stay on their feet and play defense and also know when and how to skywalking abilities.

[crc21209]

Well now everyone can stop with the BS about him possibly going to another contender like L.A or Boston. We all know that Bruce is either going to come back here somehow, or just retire. End of story...

[Spursfan092120]

Now the "Sign Bowen" talk can officially begin. Most signs point to him not coming back but I'm hoping the Spurs somehow dump Finley and then open up the room to bring back Bowen.
:tu or Bonner...there's got to be a reason we have so many bigs...let's get his future coach, defensive playing ass back here.

[ohmwrecker]

I guess if Bruce comes back, Williams is out. Non-guaranteed contract and all.

[Spursfan092120]

Would he have to wait 30 days after being cut or is the 30 day no resigning with previous team thingy over?
It's over...it starts the day he's traded, which was a lot more than 30 days ago..he could sign here tonight if we wanted him.

[Marcus Bryant]

http://www.bballcity.com/images/2006/bruce-bowen-med.jpg

[Bruno]

It's over...it starts the day he's traded, which was a lot more than 30 days ago..he could sign here tonight if we wanted him.

No, he has to clear waivers first. He can only sign with a new team in one week.

[Spursfan092120]

http://www.bballcity.com/images/2006/bruce-bowen-med.jpg

damn right..pissed me off when they cut his ass from the team.

[Marcus Bryant]

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[Marcus Bryant]

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[Bruno]

All the "Spurs aren't interested in bringing him back" infos could have been a CIA move to lower the interest another team could have in a Bowen trade.

[crc21209]

I have a feeling in my heart that Bruce has something left...he showed it toward the end of the Season and in the Playoffs when Pop finally played him in significant minutes. I would love a roster of:

PG- Parker/Hill
SG- Mason/Manu/Hairston
SF-Jefferson/Bowen/Finley
PF- Duncan/Blair/Haislip/Bonner (trade him please :lol)
C- Dice/Mahinmi/Ratliff

Of course 3 of those guys would end up on IR, but that's a good 15 man roster right there...:tu

[rayray2k8]

the only person i see being cut at this point is Marcus Williams and I'm not sure the spurs really want to do that.
Then comes Bonner. Would love to dump him, but getting something in return would be nice.

[hater]

Bring Back Bruce "Lee" Bowen!!!!!

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[024]

if popovich, who has known and trusted bowen throughout these years, decided to play him less and less last year, it is most likely bowen is done. there is no doubt that this bowen is not the 2007 or even 2008 bowen anymore. it's time to move on. if there is a roster spot open, signing him as the 15th man wouldn't be bad as a stabilizing force on the bench. otherwise, the spurs shouldn't go out of their way to sign him.

[Spursfan092120]

No, he has to clear waivers first. He can only sign with a new team in one week.
oh..my bad...guess I didn't get that part. lol...thanks for the info.

[in2deep]

:lol

[loveforthegame]

I guess we won't have to wait long to see if the Spurs want him back or not.

My gut says no and retires.

[G-Nob]

His name plate never left the Spurs' locker room. See ya in a couple of weeks, Bruce.

[Bruno]

Official news:
http://www.nba.com/bucks/news/mil_den_trade_090731.html

BUCKS REQUEST WAIVERS ON BOWEN

July 31, 2009 | 4:02pm

The Milwaukee Bucks have requested waivers on guard/forward Bruce Bowen, General Manager John Hammond announced today.

Bowen was acquired from San Antonio on June 23 as part of the three-team trade that also brought the Bucks Kurt Thomas from San Antonio and Amir Johnson from Detroit. Richard Jefferson was sent to San Antonio while Fabricio Oberto went to Detroit to complete the trade.

Bowen, 38, is a 13-year NBA veteran who spent the previous eight seasons with San Antonio.

[DMX7]

His name plate never left the Spurs' locker room. See ya in a couple of weeks, Bruce.

Maybe at McDonald's but not in a Spurs jersey.

[lurker23]

:tu

Would love to have Bruce back. Signing him for the veterans' minimum is a no-risk signing. Either he gets decent minutes and plays his usual defense, or he can't crack the rotation at all and is the de-facto defensive coach for the Spurs younger players. If the latter happens, he would still be a huge positive influence on the chemistry and camaraderie of the locker room.

[bigzak25]

Welcome home Bruce! Championship or bust!

[G-Nob]

Maybe at McDonald's but not in a Spurs jersey.

You think if Pop had a choice, finley would be on this team and not Bowen? Keep smokin.

[Strike]

:tu

Would love to have Bruce back. Signing him for the veterans' minimum is a no-risk signing. Either he gets decent minutes and plays his usual defense, or he can't crack the rotation at all and is the de-facto defensive coach for the Spurs younger players. If the latter happens, he would still be a huge positive influence on the chemistry and camaraderie of the locker room.

I agree. If he can no longer play well, I think he'd be a great assistant or defensive coach.

[venitian navigator]

Status quo

pm Parker - Hill - x (Williams ? )
g Mason - Ginobili - Hairston
f Jefferson - Finley - Haislip
p Duncan - Blair - Bonner
c Mc Dyess - Ratliff - Mahinmi

Toros with toros contract : Gist - Mc Clinton

So maybe we'll have to make at least a two for one deal for bringing back Bruce...

As always a Bonner + Finley (plus maybe Williams plus maybe draft choices) for one very good player (Nocioni anyone?) could be already in works...

[ohmwrecker]

Off topic, I miss Timmy's mini-fro. On topic, Williams is definitely the odd man out. Could this explain the Spurs FO hesitance to pick up his contract?

[PeterBurns]

Deal in the works.
Bowen to Spurs for league veteran minimum paid for by HEB, who lands $4mil deal to stock Hill Country Fare products at ATT Center.

Aramark rumored not to be amused, and has expressed interest in being moved.

[SonOfAGun]

Come back Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uce.

Damn i hate you finley.



:depressed:depressed:depressed:depressed:depressed :depressed:depressed

[rayray2k8]

Official news:
http://www.nba.com/bucks/news/mil_den_trade_090731.html

BUCKS REQUEST WAIVERS ON BOWEN

July 31, 2009 | 4:02pm

The Milwaukee Bucks have requested waivers on guard/forward Bruce Bowen, General Manager John Hammond announced today.

Bowen was acquired from San Antonio on June 23 as part of the three-team trade that also brought the Bucks Kurt Thomas from San Antonio and Amir Johnson from Detroit. Richard Jefferson was sent to San Antonio while Fabricio Oberto went to Detroit to complete the trade.

Bowen, 38, is a 13-year NBA veteran who spent the previous eight seasons with San Antonio.

So 1 week, huh?

[Dex]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_rVItnnrpuX0/RmotE1oIZPI/AAAAAAAAAKM/02LT-Oinsxk/s320/bowen+and+james.jpg
Doitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoitdo itdoitdoitdoit.

Never mind the X's and the O's. Bruce deserves one more year.

Pull the strings.

[ohmwrecker]

I am still not quite sold on Hill as a solid back-up PG. So, I would try to package Bonner & Finley for a decent 3rd option PG, sign Bruce and call it a day.

[Spursfan092120]

Deal in the works.
Bowen to Spurs for league veteran minimum paid for by HEB, who lands $4mil deal to stock Hill Country Fare products at ATT Center.

Aramark rumored not to be amused, and has expressed interest in being moved.
:lmao:lmao:lmao

r5G4_qkA0vg

"Thump my glasses again, and I'll make you into a point guard"...lol

[loveforthegame]

Come back Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uce.

Damn i hate you finley.



:depressed:depressed:depressed:depressed:depressed :depressed:depressed

Yep, all Finley's fault. :rolleyes

[Bruno]

So 1 week, huh?

Yes.

In theory, a team with a TE big enough or enough cap space can claim him from waivers but it's highly unlikely.

[DannyT]

damn right..pissed me off when they cut his ass from the team.

story of his life

[timvp]

If the Spurs wanted Bowen back, they had to be ultra CIA. If they outwardly said they wanted Bowen back, another team could have made a trade with the Bucks and forced Bowen to play with them or retire.

We'll see. It sounds like Bowen isn't coming back from everything I've heard but that could also be CIA in motion. I guess we'll find out relatively soon.

Bowen coming back would make this almost perfect summer even better.

[manustarting2gd]

bring back bruce! bring back bruce! bring back bruce!

[venitian navigator]

I tried this trade on espn trade machine with Wolves: Bonner + Finley + Williams for Brewer and Atkins...

[ohmwrecker]

I tried this trade on espn trade machine with Wolves: Bonner + Finley + Williams for Brewer and Atkins...

If we got Brewer we would not need or have a roster spot available for Bruce. Are we still talking about Bruce?

[Spursox]

New Thread: Release Bonner to sign Bowen!

I think we have enough PF.

[Spursfan092120]

story of his life
:(

[Dex]

:(

Now now.

Whether Bruce resigns or not, I'm pretty sure he'd be the first to tell you how much he appreciates all he's gotten, and that he is still calls San Antonio home. That jersey will be in the rafters one day.

Don't feel too bad for the 3-time Champion. If he does retire, he'll retire a proud and happy man.

[spursfan1000]

We should wait till a month after the season starts and who ever isnt good enough for the team, maybe Hariston or Haslip and then sign Bowen but who knows if Bowen wants to come back to the orginization that traded him?

[FvckMavs]

From Bruce's twitter:
"Just got off the plane, got word that I will not be in Milwaukee for Christmas!"

[kobyz]

i think we need to imrove more in order to pass over the Lakers and the other big teams, we improve alot and Holt spend very much this summer but maybe this will not enough for title because the Lakers improve from last year and also Boston, Cavs, Magic and Hornets improve alot.
Holt spend alot this summer and i thank him for that but if he can spend a little more and bring Stephen Jackson in a trade for Bonner and Mason it will be claver, it will improve our chances for the title big time and also it will make a roster spot to bring back Bruce!

[Dex]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/53/148852106_0b90cb040f.jpg?v=0

[scottspurs]

I saw Bruce Bowen at Dallas Cowboys training camp yesterday. I have a feeling he is going to play for the Spurs next season.

[DPG21920]

I just do not see room for him and he could not get PT last year with less depth and a roster spot.

[G-Nob]

I saw Bruce Bowen at Dallas Cowboys training camp yesterday. I have a feeling he is going to play for the Spurs next season.

thanks for the update

[z0sa]

The plan continues unabated.

[z0sa]

Now that Bruce Bowen has been released, the final stages of the Spurs roster overhaul may begin. Bonner (:depressed) and Finley are on their way out. Bowen is on his way back in. The FO is convinced Haislip can do what Bonner did. Finley is washed up and done, and even worse a huge temptation; whereas Bowen brings solid defense and intangibles to the table.

Make it so. I will hate, hate, hate to see Bonner go, yet it all really makes sense. He would have to accept a much reduced role. With last season's minutes/starting as well as his amount of touches, he could have difficulties like before. He could be useful defensively, at least early on, because he knows the system; but why have an altogether similar player in Haislip, and when we have one big too many?

[lurker23]

As far as the roster spot is concerned, it's pretty simple:

1. A 2-for-1 or 3-for-1 trade could easily open up a roster spot.

or, even more simply:

2. Sign Bowen, then choose between Hairston and Williams.


Assuming Hairston wins out, you have the roster crc21209 posted earlier in this thread.

PG- Parker/Hill
SG- Mason/Manu/Hairston
SF- Jefferson/Finley/Bowen
PF- Duncan/Blair/Bonner/Haislip
C- McDyess/Mahinmi/Ratliff

[HarlemHeat37]

I don't like having both Bowen and Finley backing up Jefferson..I'd rather Hairston get it(he will anyways if Pop lets them play for it IMO), and only one of Bowen or Finley on the team..Bruce compliments the perimeter guys much better than Finley, since we already have shooters/scorers..

If we can unload Finley, I'd take Bowen back in an instant..he wouldn't even have to play significant minutes..just be a mentor, and play some minutes when needed..

[clubalien]

Community Relations Director. Iceman used to have this position after he retired and Bruce is pretty big in the San Antonio community.

bruce was studying PR at UTSA.
I think sean eliott would be a better community relations person,not sure if sean would be a director though.

[lurker23]

Now that Bruce Bowen has been released, the final stages of the Spurs roster overhaul may begin. Bonner (:depressed) and Finley are on their way out. Bowen is on his way back in. The FO is convinced Haislip can do what Bonner did. Finley is washed up and done, and even worse a huge temptation; whereas Bowen brings solid defense and intangibles to the table.

Make it so. I will hate, hate, hate to see Bonner go, yet it all really makes sense.

We'll see. Just as they gave Bonner a chance to beat Tolliver, I suspect they'll give Bonner a chance to beat Haislip, unless they're able to land something they can't pass up with a Bonner/Finley/Williams package.

I'm not convinced yet that Haislip can shoot 38%+ from the NBA 3-point line, which Bonner has done 4 of his 5 NBA seasons, though it's possible Haislip can make up for this with a more versatile offensive game for half the price. In the end, however, if either of them get significant playing time, the underlying cause will likely be defense and rebounding, which isn't necessarily either's forte.

[wildbill2u]

i'd rather have Bowen than Ratliff and I bet he'd play more. We've already got three or four guys who can play center with TD, McDyess, bonner and Ian

[lurker23]

A two/three for 1 player trade is likely going to happen by the end of Aug or not at all. I get the feeling a Jeff Foster trade could happen within the next few weeks. That is just an opinion though, nothing I've heard.

It depends whether the Spurs view the theoretical 2/3 for 1 player trade as a plan, or as an option. If it's a plan to fill out the roster, you're correct, it will likely occur within the next month or so. If they simply view it as an option, however, I would expect them to wait until they get into training camp and evaluate what their bigman and swingman situation is.

[angelbelow]

A two/three for 1 player trade is likely going to happen by the end of Aug or not at all. I get the feeling a Jeff Foster trade could happen within the next few weeks. That is just an opinion though, nothing I've heard.

Wow, I always thought you at 10k + post. But if Jeff Foster is coming that means Ian or Blair is gone huh?

[benefactor]

One more time Bruce...c'mon home.
http://nbcsportsmedia1.msnbc.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/060509/060509_bowen_vmed_11a.widec.jpg
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/ian_thomsen/06/13/spurs.bowen/p1_bowen-getty.jpg
http://www.nike.com/nikebasketball/us/en_US/images/family/nba/players/profile/bruce_bowen.jpg

[galvatron3000]

Now the "Sign Bowen" talk can officially begin. Most signs point to him not coming back but I'm hoping the Spurs somehow dump Finley and then open up the room to bring back Bowen.

:toast

[peskypesky]

I'd love for Bruce to come back, either as a player or assistant coach. I know he probably doesn't have much left in the tank, but with a roster as stacked as ours, all he'd need to do is play a bit here and there and save himself for that last run at another ring. As an assistant coach, I'm sure he'd be an asset teaching defense.

:lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt2:

:flag::flag::flag::flag::flag:

[sprrs]

I agree. If he can no longer play well, I think he'd be a great assistant or defensive coach.

Bruce has explicitly said he doesn't want to coach after her retires.

[Taking it to the Hole]

I am willing to venture to say that Williams is the most expendable player under contract for the Spurs right now and if there is a chance for Bruce to come back, he will be the one to be let go before Hairston.

[z0sa]

I am willing to venture to say that Williams is the most expendable player under contract for the Spurs right now and if there is a chance for Bruce to come back, he will be the one to be let go before Hairston.

That'd be great. But why do we have 7 bigs?

[Spurminator]

Not getting my hopes up. Wherever he goes, I hope he gets to contribute.

And I hope it's not in our division.

[peskypesky]

Bruce has explicitly said he doesn't want to coach after her retires.

wow. didn't know that. wonder why not? i'd give a kidney to be an basketball coach.

[Sigz]

Retire Bruce. You're too damn old.

[Taking it to the Hole]

That'd be great. But why do we have 7 bigs?


I guess Pop and RC feel you can never have too many bigs? I think we may have gotten carried away but I understand where they see a need to keep Tim fresh and add another presence next to him in Dice, but I really am more concerned at the SF position. Evidently, RC has said that Haislip would play some SF so maybe that is the reason why they don't see a need to justify bringing back Bruce if they have a much taller player guarding the Dirks, Gasols, and Kevin Durants.

I think Bruce will be back eventually, but I don't see the FO in a rush to go get him until someone on the current roster doesn't pan out as they planned. I guess we will have to see how Williams and Hairston pan out?

[baseline bum]

The Spurs better fucking bring Bruce back. You don't find people you can effectively stick on Kobe every day.

[sprrs]

wow. didn't know that. wonder why not? i'd give a kidney to be an basketball coach.

I don't remember exactly, something about the amount of time the job consumes and how he'd rather be spending the time with his family.

[nbaman99]

there is no its and butts, we need bowen back. even if he play few minutes, he needs to be in the roster 4 experience. also the big 3 loves him.

[EricB]

The Spurs better fucking bring Bruce back. You don't find people you can effectively stick on Kobe every day.


I don't see room for him.

Theres only so many minutes to go around.

[baseline bum]

I don't see room for him.

Theres only so many minutes to go around.

Then you take minutes from Finley and Mason and don't ride Jefferson to death.

[spurs opsman]

<p>A friend of mine was at Yardley's when the family got the call minutes ago!</p>

[Dex]

Umm......http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=132469

A few hours late, but thanks. :)

[benefactor]

Reading...it's fundamental.

[all_heart]

Then you take minutes from Finley and Mason and don't ride Jefferson to death.

I'd support that.. just put him in "when required" but don't let go of any of the young guys, unless it's obvious it's not working out. ( ala Tolliver)

[ehz33satx]

<p>A friend of mine was at Yardley's when the family got the call minutes ago!</p>

I have a friend named Carmen who works there. Same friend?

[Mr Bones]

Bruce lost his status as a starter last year to a 36 year old Michael Finley for a reason... he had gotten older, had lost a step or two, and was just too much of a liability to have on the court. This is not a criticism of Bowen. He did a great job as a Spur, but everyone ages and must eventually move on. It happened to Russell, Jordan, Bird, Hakeem... and now it has happened to Bruce. Given the go-ahead to spend money by Peter Holt, RC made the right decision-- he went out and got a younger, more athletic small forward.

[ehz33satx]

http://www.bballcity.com/images/2006/bruce-bowen-med.jpg

Look at the length of those arms! No wonder he is such a pest!

[completely deck]

Wouldn't mind him coming back. Never thought he'd play in another uniform either, though.

[baseline bum]

Bruce lost his status as a starter last year to a 36 year old Michael Finley for a reason... he had gotten older, had lost a step or two, and was just too much of a liability to have on the court. This is not a criticism of Bowen. He did a great job as a Spur, but everyone ages and must eventually move on. It happened to Russell, Jordan, Bird, Hakeem... and now it has happened to Bruce. Given the go-ahead to spend money by Peter Holt, RC made the right decision-- he went out and got a younger, more athletic small forward.

If Bowen's the liability of the two why did his playoff performance trash Finley's?

[benefactor]

Bowen at 38 is still better than 90% of the perimeter defenders in the league.

You noobs need to recognize....

[Mr Bones]

If Bowen's the liability of the two why did his playoff performance trash Finley's?

:lol You mean in the series where the Spurs lost 4 out of 5?

[AmericanPsycho]

That being said he isn't coming back to the Spurs.

[Russ]

The Spurs better fucking bring Bruce back. You don't find people you can effectively stick on Kobe every day.

Tatoos don't even stick to that guy.

We need Bowen!

[Mr Bones]

Bowen at 38 is still better than 90% of the perimeter defenders in the league.

You noobs need to recognize....

:lol This is the mantra of all the old-timers on spurstalk. If Bill Russell logged on to spurstalk and offered an opinion, he be bombarded with replies that he's a noob and doesn't know anything about basketball!

It's sweet that people have a nostalgic soft spot for a Bowen... I do too. I just don't think he has a place on the team anymore, just as David Robinson, George Gervin, and Artis Gilmore don't.

[baseline bum]

:lol You mean in the series where the Spurs lost 4 out of 5?

Yeah, the one Finley was bent over with no vaseline by Josh Howard and Brandon Bass.

[Rogue]

Retire Bruce. You're too damn old.
dude is only 3 years older than Becky Hammon so he isn't that damn old, as male players generally have longer careers than females and Becky Hammon still has so many fans obsessed with her. Bruce will be signed back to Spurs as a defensive addition to the bench.

[Mr Bones]

Yeah, the one Finley was bent over with no vaseline by Josh Howard and Brandon Bass.

:lol Finley's old too. I'm not defending keeping Finley, just pointing out that losing your starting role to an aged Finely is a pretty good indication of deteriorated skills.

[Dex]

http://nbcsportsmedia1.msnbc.com/j/apmegasports/saa11005090255.widec.jpg

[mattyc]

Make it happen, R.C.

[crc21209]

I only started posting a couple years ago. But most likely Foster would be for Finley+Bonner. Ian and Blair are wild cards. We can't/won't trade Blair, but if it gets us a good big and Ian must be involved then I can see us giving him up.

If the Spurs could somehow package Fin + Bonner for Foster, and then sign Bowen...hell yeah! :tu

[loveforthegame]

This is going to be a loooong August waiting to see if the Spurs make another trade or not.

Why would they wait until then if they have some options right now? Especially if Foster is one of them.

Not sure why they'd want Finley. Granger, Dunleavy, Jones, and Rush would all get minutes ahead of him.

Just checked the Pacers roster and can't figure out why they'd want Bonner either. Murphy, Hansbrough, Hibbert, McRoberts, and Jones would all get minutes before Bonner imo too.

Sure, I get the vet leadership and expiring contracts but doesn't make much sense with the logjam.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Rookies should have to have at least 100 posts before they can post a new thread.

Oh, and read the front page of thread titles before doing so.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I don't see room for him.

Theres only so many minutes to go around.

If you'd quit licking Finley's nuts long enough for the Spurs to dump his ass, that'd open up minutes for Bowen easily enough.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Bruce lost his status as a starter last year to a 36 year old Michael Finley for a reason... he had gotten older, had lost a step or two, and was just too much of a liability to have on the court. This is not a criticism of Bowen. He did a great job as a Spur, but everyone ages and must eventually move on. It happened to Russell, Jordan, Bird, Hakeem... and now it has happened to Bruce. Given the go-ahead to spend money by Peter Holt, RC made the right decision-- he went out and got a younger, more athletic small forward.

Bowen got benched because Pop *thought* that Finley provided more offense, which we were hurting for with Manu out.

Of course, Pop also thought Hill couldn't hang in the Mavs series and he turned out to be one of the better players.

Pop makes mistakes, I'm sure that's shocking to some of you.

[Danny.Zhu]

I have a feeling in my heart that Bruce has something left...he showed it toward the end of the Season and in the Playoffs when Pop finally played him in significant minutes. I would love a roster of:

PG- Parker/Hill
SG- Mason/Manu/Hairston
SF-Jefferson/Bowen/Finley
PF- Duncan/Blair/Haislip/Bonner (trade him please :lol)
C- Dice/Mahinmi/Ratliff

Of course 3 of those guys would end up on IR, but that's a good 15 man roster right there...:tu

Totally agreed.

[Mr Bones]

Bowen got benched because Pop *thought* that Finley provided more offense, which we were hurting for with Manu out.

Of course, Pop also thought Hill couldn't hang in the Mavs series and he turned out to be one of the better players.

Pop makes mistakes, I'm sure that's shocking to some of you.

:lol I'm surprised RC and Peter Holt haven't made you coach, considering what
a persuasive people-person you seem to be.

[raspsa]

RJ is supposed to be the premier perimeter defender. Once he goes to the bench for a rest or is in foul trouble, who is the next defender in line. I think Bowen can still be effective defensively for limited minutes and as they say jumpshooting never grows old.. could be cheap insurance.

[my2sons]

:lol I'm surprised RC and Peter Holt haven't made you coach, considering what
a persuasive people-person you seem to be.

u have 128 posts so u qualify....five pages of conversation...lock this thread:rollin:rollin

[Mr Bones]

Bowen got benched because Pop *thought* that Finley provided more offense, which we were hurting for with Manu out.


Finley did in fact provide more offense, O wise foaming at the mouth internet tough guy with impressive quantities of posts... both last year and in every other year since they've been in the League. The problem was, simply, that neither Bowen or Finley were going to cut it as starters at SF on a championship team. It's not like Pop made a bad decision, and that cost the Spurs the series... there just wasn't enough talent and health to get the job done.

[SonOfAGun]

Do the Spurs care about DEFENSE these days or do they want spotty shooting with a revolving fence????

[angelbelow]

hopefully there is an efficient way we can bring bruce back. Bruno mentioned Jeff for Bonner+Finley but i think it would take more, maybe Ian. But I think we would be much better with Foster and Bruce over Bonner, Finley and Ian.

[diego]

i think bowen has value, even if he was just injury insurance. he knows the playbook and the people, can hit the 3 and play hard and smart. its not like he'd be expensive or more than a year commitment. and i think if the spurs went back to him, bowen would do his best in appreciation. for a top 4 wing role thats a stretch, but as the 5-6 guys, I'd take him over finley, and maybe hairston too.

[barbacoataco]

I agree with those that want Bowen back in favor of Finley. Only playing 10-15 mpg benefits Bowen, because his legs will be fresher. But playing limited minutes makes Finley even less effective, as his shooting gets streaky. For this reason I see Bowen as the better option as the veteran SF. But Finley is under contract so they would have to get rid of him. I don't see them needing Finley and Bowen, if there really is a youth movement.

[benefactor]

:lol This is the mantra of all the old-timers on spurstalk. If Bill Russell logged on to spurstalk and offered an opinion, he be bombarded with replies that he's a noob and doesn't know anything about basketball!

It's sweet that people have a nostolgic soft spot for a Bowen... I do too. I just don't think he has a place on the team anymore, just as David Robinson, George Gervin, and Artis Gilmore don't.
It has nothing to do with nostalgia. It has to do with him still locking down players late in the season last year when he started to get some burn. Try watching the games.

[Mr Bones]

It has nothing to do with nostalgia. It has to do with him still locking down players late in the season last year when he started to get some burn. Try watching the games.

I have the NBA package and watch hundreds of games. So I guess if the Spurs don't bring Bowen back that will be proof that you actually are more knowledgeable about basketball than either RC Buford or Pop, right?

[Ditty]

i bought a jefferson jersey at academy today :)

[DMX7]

Bruce is done. He got killed by Kobe, Melo, LeBron, etc. last year. He can't guard stars at a high level anymore. GET OVER IT.

[benefactor]

I have the NBA package and watch hundreds of games. So I guess if the Spurs don't bring Bowen back that will be proof that you actually are more knowledgeable about basketball than either RC Buford or Pop, right?
You keep playing this card and every time you do it you sound more like a dumbass. Just stop.

If they don't bring Bowen back then that means they are fully committed to what they have or they are planning to go another direction in acquiring a defensive wing. I am fine with that. I am of the opinion though, that based on what we saw from him last year in spot duty he can come in and minimalize the impact of one of the opposing teams scorers during the playoffs. If he does it for the minimum most of his salary is paid for by the league, so it's a no-brainer.

[z0sa]

I have the NBA package and watch hundreds of games.

BFD. You think you're the only person here with LP? Maybe the only person on this site that watches other teams? There literally thousands of people here who do the exact same shit as you do. Get off your high horse and come on down to the discussion.

[Spursfan092120]

you keep playing this card and every time you do it you sound more like a dumbass. Just stop.

If they don't bring bowen back then that means they are fully committed to what they have or they are planning to go another direction in acquiring a defensive wing. I am fine with that. I am of the opinion though, that based on what we saw from him last year in spot duty he can come in and minimalize the impact of one of the opposing teams scorers during the playoffs. If he does it for the minimum most of his salary is paid for by the league, so it's a no-brainer.
+1000000000

[Mr Bones]

You keep playing this card and every time you do it you sound more like a dumbass. Just stop.



:lol Thanks for the advice, but I don't take directions from anonymous internet know-it-alls. I'm sorry that when someone disagrees with you it gets you angry, but saying I hadn't watched the games because my opinions weren't the same as yours only makes you look like a dumbass, and a sentimental fool to boot. Obviously I watched the same games that Buford did.
At some point you'll have to realize that your opinions, while precious to you, are not especially relevant in the future of the Spurs. I know it must hurt in your fantasy world where RC calls you to get the OK on roster moves, but those are the breaks, kid.

[Spursfan092120]

:lol Thanks for the advice, but I don't take directions from anonymous internet know-it-alls. I'm sorry that when someone disagrees with you it gets you angry, but saying I hadn't watched the games because my opinions weren't the same as yours only makes you look like a dumbass, and a sentimental fool to boot. Obviously I watched the same games that Buford did.
At some point you'll have to realize that your opinions, while precious to you, are not especially relevant in the future of the Spurs. I know it must hurt in your fantasy world where RC calls you to get the OK on roster moves, but those are the breaks, kid.
But at the same time, you think your cocky, "I'm better than everybody" bullshit attitude is relevant in any way, shape, or form? Seriously...why don't you, for just once, get your head out of your ass, stop smelling your own farts, and pay the fuck attention to a normal conversation.

[Mr Bones]

...why don't you, for just once, get your head out of your ass, stop smelling your own farts, and pay the fuck....

:lmao
This sounds very familiar... is it a quote from somewhere? Maybe Churchill?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

:lol Thanks for the advice, but I don't take directions from anonymous internet know-it-alls. I'm sorry that when someone disagrees with you it gets you angry, but saying I hadn't watched the games because my opinions weren't the same as yours only makes you look like a dumbass, and a sentimental fool to boot. Obviously I watched the same games that Buford did.
At some point you'll have to realize that your opinions, while precious to you, are not especially relevant in the future of the Spurs. I know it must hurt in your fantasy world where RC calls you to get the OK on roster moves, but those are the breaks, kid.

It must hurt to think you're the only one on this forum with League Pass who watches someone other than the Spurs, when in reality you're a dumbass.

[benefactor]

:lol Thanks for the advice, but I don't take directions from anonymous internet know-it-alls. I'm sorry that when someone disagrees with you it gets you angry, but saying I hadn't watched the games because my opinions weren't the same as yours only makes you look like a dumbass, and a sentimental fool to boot. Obviously I watched the same games that Buford did.
At some point you'll have to realize that your opinions, while precious to you, are not especially relevant in the future of the Spurs. I know it must hurt in your fantasy world where RC calls you to get the OK on roster moves, but those are the breaks, kid.
Ok...how about some real examples of what Bowen did last year Mr. I Agree With RC.

Jan. 2nd vs. Memphis


Bruce Bowen
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/images/basketball/nba/players/3167.jpg
17 minutes, six points
2-for-2 from the field, 2-for-2 on three-pointers

Bruce Bowen spent time on both Mayo and Gay and did fine work on both. He crowded Gay to try to take his dribble and used his length wisely against Mayo. On offense, Bowen connected on both of his shots from the field – both of which were three-pointers. He has now hit six of his previous seven three-point attempts and he’s shooting a career-high 47.7% from beyond the arc.

Jan. 5th vs. Miami


Bruce Bowen
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/images/basketball/nba/players/3167.jpg
23 minutes, three points, two rebounds
1-for-2 from the field, 1-for-1 on three-pointers

Bruce Bowen historically has had a tough time defending Wade but he played some quality D against him on Monday night. Despite getting called for a few iffy fouls, Bowen kept pestering and helped force Wade into five turnovers and 10-for-26 shooting. He also went around and through screens better than he has in recent weeks. On offense, Bowen continues to make the most out of his limited shot attempts.

Jan 17th vs. Chicago


Bruce Bowen
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/images/basketball/nba/players/3167.jpg
19 minutes, two assists, one steal
0-for-2 from the field, 0-for-2 on three-pointers

After not playing at all in the first 28 minutes of the game, Bruce Bowen was on the court for all but 40 seconds the rest of the way. Bowen’s main task was to defend Gordon. While Gordon was able to score a few baskets on him early on, Bowen was able to hold him scoreless in the final nine minutes of the game. On offense, Bowen is in the midst of his first prolonged slump of the season. He’s connected on just one of his last seven shots over the last five games.

Jan. 20th vs. Indiana


Bruce Bowen
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/images/basketball/nba/players/3167.jpg
26 minutes, four points, five rebounds
2-for-3 from the field

Outside of Finley, Bruce Bowen deserves the most credit for helping to limit Granger to only 17 points. He played pestering defense and was extra physical when in the painted area. His five rebounds were as many as he’s had in the last five games combined. On the offensive end, he had the highlight of the night when he gave Granger a killer crossover and a jumper. Somewhere, Tim Hardaway had to be blushing – in the most heterosexual way possible, of course.

Jan. 25th vs. LA


Bruce Bowen
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/images/basketball/nba/players/3167.jpg
26 minutes, two points, three steals
1-for-3 from the field

Bruce Bowen played good defense against Bryant in the first half, holding him to 4-for-11 shooting from the field. In the second half, Bowen didn’t have an opportunity to guard Bryant as Pop instead opted for offensively powered lineups. On offense, Bowen was 0-for-2 from the floor when it mattered. It will be interesting to see if Bowen will get more minutes as the playoffs near or if he’ll be relegated to spot action.

Jan. 27th vs. Utah


Bruce Bowen
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/images/basketball/nba/players/3167.jpg
Nine minutes, four points
2-for-3 from the field

In the first three quarters, Bruce Bowen didn’t get off the bench. To start the fourth quarter, Pop put Bowen into the game. Good call. Bowen responded with a great defensive stretch that saw him single-handedly throw Mehmet Okur out of rhythm. Okur entered the fourth with 19 points but Bowen helped hold him scoreless in the final period before Duncan fouled him with less than 30 seconds to go in the ballgame. Bowen also chipped in on the offensive end, scoring the first four points for the Spurs in the fourth. Although he only ended up playing nine minutes, Bowen was a very big part of the win against the Jazz.

Jan. 29th vs. Phoenix


Bruce Bowen
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/images/basketball/nba/players/3167.jpg
19 minutes, nine points
1-for-3 from the field, 1-for-3 on three-pointers, 6-for-8 at the line

Bruce Bowen added another chapter to his Suns slaying legacy. With the game tied at 79 late in the third quarter, Suns coach Terry Porter opted to employ Hack-a-Bowen. After missing his first free throw, he subsequently connected on five straight to doom the strategy. Prior to this game, Bowen was 2-for-8 on the season at the line, so he ended up doubling his attempts and tripling his makes in this one contest. While Bowen’s destruction of Porter’s strategy was a humorous side note, it was Bowen’s defense that really stood out. The defense for the Spurs looked much better with Bowen in the game and the numbers back it. The Suns scored 90.8 points per 48 minutes when Bowen was on the court. When he was on the bench, the Suns scored 112.3 points per 48 minutes.

Feb. 2nd vs. GS


Bruce Bowen
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/images/basketball/nba/players/3167.jpg
16 minutes, four points, three rebounds
2-for-3 from the field, 0-for-1 on three-pointers

Bruce Bowen had a non-descript performance outside of one play. With the game tied and less than nine seconds remaining in regulation, Bowen bodied up Jackson and forced him into a miss as time expired. On the night, Bowen played the most consistent defense against Jackson, however Pop only opted to play him 16 minutes. Offensively, Bowen knocked down two of his three shots, including a rare offensive rebound tip in plus the foul.

Feb. 10th vs. New Jersey


Bruce Bowen
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/images/basketball/nba/players/3167.jpg
19 minutes, two points
1-for-1 from the field

Bruce Bowen’s defense against Carter in this game was some of the best defense we’ve seen from a Spur this season. In the nine and half minutes before Bowen stepped on the court, Carter scored 19 points. In Carter’s final 17 and a half minutes of action, all with Bowen defending him, he only managed four more points. Though some of the credit should go to the team defense also improving against Carter in the second half, Bowen definitely deserves most of the acclaim. On the other end, Bowen hit another one of his newly patented left-handed scooping runners.

Feb. 25th vs. Portland


Bruce Bowen
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/images/basketball/nba/players/3167.jpg
24 minutes, six points, two rebounds
2-for-3 from the field, 2-for-3 on three-pointers

Along with Mason, Bruce Bowen helped shut down Roy. Although Bowen isn’t as unbelievably quick as he was a few years ago, he’s making up for most of it by mastering veteran maneuvers. Off the ball, he’s being more physical and even more annoying. Like most players on the team, Bowen’s attention to detail on defense has elevated since the All-Star break. Versus Portland, Bowen nailed a pair of first quarter three-pointers that helped the Spurs get off on the right foot.

I speak in reality son...and don't come back at me with that same weak ass "RC is not calling you" garbage. Bring some real fucking arguments or GTFO.

[Mr Bones]

Bowen isn’t as unbelievably quick as he was a few years ago

That pretty much sums it up, Mr I agree timvp.

[benefactor]

That pretty much sums it up, Mr I agree timvp.
That's the best you can do?



























:lmao

[Mr Bones]

It must hurt to think you're the only one on this forum with League Pass who watches someone other than the Spurs, when in reality you're a dumbass.

I never said anything remotely like that. Maybe you should take a reading comprehension class. Benefactor said I should "watch the games" and I calmly replied that I have LP and in fact do watch the games. Nothing more.

[Mr Bones]

That's the best you can do?

That's all I need. You do realize he was traded, right? :lol

[jag]

I never said anything remotely like that. Maybe you should take a reading comprehension class. Benefactor said I should "watch the games" and I calmly replied that I have LP and in fact do watch the games. Nothing more.

Your act is played out.

[Thomas82]

Let's hope he comes back home.

That would be nice, but I won't get my hopes up.

[HarlemHeat37]

Bruce is done. He got killed by Kobe, Melo, LeBron, etc. last year. He can't guard stars at a high level anymore. GET OVER IT.

He's clearly lost a step, but none of those guys actually killed him at all last year..

Pop didn't let him cover Lebron, and he only covered Kobe for a few stretches, and he did a fine job..

He actually completely shut down Anthony in one of the games, and it was one of his best games of the season..

I'm against Bowen on the current team too, but your statement is false..

[Spursfan 87]

Finley and Bonner for Posey and D. Brown

Sign Bowen and waive williams and we are set

[SA210]

It's all in my sig!

[spurspokesman]

Bruce lost his status as a starter last year to a 36 year old Michael Finley for a reason... he had gotten older, had lost a step or two, and was just too much of a liability to have on the court. This is not a criticism of Bowen. He did a great job as a Spur, but everyone ages and must eventually move on. It happened to Russell, Jordan, Bird, Hakeem... and now it has happened to Bruce. Given the go-ahead to spend money by Peter Holt, RC made the right decision-- he went out and got a younger, more athletic small forward.
Agreed. Bbbuuuttt at the end of the day you need a good perimeter defender. And even at his advanced age he still will be our best perimeter defender if we bring him back. I'm sure he has a few minutes a game left in him to keep a star player under control. Rj is the man but his defense can be subpar. We need somebody to irritate the other teams best player.

[Bruno]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Aj0VzGxUzVcY0kW7n60nxyO8vLYF?slug=ys-freeagentbuzz072509&prov=yhoo&type=lgns


Bowen is contemplating retirement but could also have interest from Orlando, a source told Yahoo! Sports.

[benefactor]

That's all I need. You do realize he was traded, right? :lol
You do realize he was a partially guaranteed expiring contract, right? At least make an attempt at a decent argument.

[Spurs Brazil]

Bucks waive defensive stalwart BowenComment Email Print Share By Marc Stein
ESPN.com
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Defensive stalwart Bruce Bowen has been released by the Milwaukee Bucks and will be an unrestricted free agent next week if he clears waivers.

The Bucks announced the move Friday night after their monthlong attempts to trade him -- including talks this week with the Denver Nuggets -- did not result in a deal.

Bowen's full $4 million salary for next season would have been guaranteed if he was not released by Aug. 1. The Bucks will save half that amount by waiving Bowen and paying him the required $2 million buyout stipulated in Bowen's contract.

Bowen, 38, joined the Spurs in the summer of 2001 and was part of three championship teams (2003, '05 and '07) in his eight seasons in San Antonio. It's believed that a return to the Spurs in free agency is highly unlikely but contenders such as Orlando, Cleveland and Boston have been mentioned as potential suitors for Bowen.

The Bucks have tried all month to trade the veteran stopper since acquiring him from San Antonio on June 23 as part of a three-team trade that sent Richard Jefferson to the Spurs and also netted Kurt Thomas from San Antonio and Amir Johnson from Detroit. Fabricio Oberto went from the Spurs to the Pistons to complete the trade. It was understood from the start that Milwaukee would waive Bowen if it could not utilize him in a trade in July.

Via his Twitter account Friday night, Bowen wrote: "Just got off the plane [and] got word that I will not be in Milwaukee for Christmas!"

Bowen was one of five NBA players waived Friday, joining Boston guard Gabe Pruitt, Los Angeles Clippers guard Mike Taylor, Los Angeles Lakers swingman Sun Yue and fellow Buck Salim Stoudamire. All five players will be unrestricted free agents if they are not claimed by another team before 6 p.m. ET next Friday.

Marc Stein is a senior NBA writer for ESPN.com.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4370109

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I never said anything remotely like that. Maybe you should take a reading comprehension class. Benefactor said I should "watch the games" and I calmly replied that I have LP and in fact do watch the games. Nothing more.

My reading comprehension is fine. Bowen is a better perimeter defender than anyone on our squad. Even if he sat the pine and just mentored Hairston, that would still return value to the team.

And in a pinch, you can throw him on someone who is torching everyone else and see if he can cool them off.

The sad part is you are too stupid to understand why Finley played instead of Bowen down the stretch and in the playoffs last year. It was all about trying to find enough offense to outscore people, not because Bowen's D had slipped.

He was arguably our best perimeter player in the Dallas series, regardless of the outcome.

[Spursfan092120]

:lmao
This sounds very familiar... is it a quote from somewhere? Maybe Churchill?
lol..seriously? you are such a dumbass.

[elbamba]

I might be one of the few Spurs fans who does not mind if Bruce does not come back as a player. He was my favorite, but I would like to see us try and develope new talent. If it doesn't work, maybe he will be around after January to sign for the last half.

[SpurCharger]

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/60918/20090801/return_to_spurs_unlikely_for_bowen/

He Will not be Back.... He will End Up In Boston or Maybe even Orlando.... Just like I said earlier in this thread....

[Danny.Zhu]

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/60918/20090801/return_to_spurs_unlikely_for_bowen/

He Will not be Back.... He will End Up In Boston or Maybe even Orlando.... Just like I said earlier in this thread....

Damn....

[benefactor]

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/60918/20090801/return_to_spurs_unlikely_for_bowen/

He Will not be Back.... He will End Up In Boston or Maybe even Orlando.... Just like I said earlier in this thread....
Meh. That story is just speculation. Until Bowen makes his intentions known there is nothing definite.

[Spursfan092120]

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/60918/20090801/return_to_spurs_unlikely_for_bowen/

He Will not be Back.... He will End Up In Boston or Maybe even Orlando.... Just like I said earlier in this thread....
ReAl Gm DoESn'T KnoW sHiT. What's it going to take for you to realize that it's Bowen's choice where he goes? He has stated before times that if it was up to him, it'd be two choices, San Antonio, or retirement. My uncle's season Spurs tickets are right next to Yardley's seats. They love San Antonio, and are settled in. Bruce is a family man, and his family wants to stay here. Bruce will not leave his family. They have their own shop, and run a small strip mall too, if I'm not mistaken. They don't need money, and Bruce has also said he will not play basketball just to play basketball, which means he doesn't feel the NEED to play. He would play here, but if SA won't bring him back, he's retiring..I'd almost put money on it.

[Riverwalkman]

He has stated before times that if it was up to him, it'd be two choices, San Antonio, or retirement. My uncle's season Spurs tickets are right next to Yardley's seats. They love San Antonio, and are settled in. Bruce is a family man, and his family wants to stay here.
Totally agreed. Bowen said San Atonio is his home and his heart is there.:toast

[bigdog]

I think it's either going to be Boston or retire and come back to San Antonio. I honestly don't think he has a chance of returning to the Spurs.

[BlackBellamy]

AP- San Antonio, TX 10/30/09- Bowen, Horry slated for elderly ex-Spur Walmart tour 2010. article coming soon...














;)

[rayray2k8]

CIA Pop in full effect.

[crc21209]

ReAl Gm DoESn'T KnoW sHiT. What's it going to take for you to realize that it's Bowen's choice where he goes? He has stated before times that if it was up to him, it'd be two choices, San Antonio, or retirement. My uncle's season Spurs tickets are right next to Yardley's seats. They love San Antonio, and are settled in. Bruce is a family man, and his family wants to stay here. Bruce will not leave his family. They have their own shop, and run a small strip mall too, if I'm not mistaken. They don't need money, and Bruce has also said he will not play basketball just to play basketball, which means he doesn't feel the NEED to play. He would play here, but if SA won't bring him back, he's retiring..I'd almost put money on it.

+1000000000. I've tried to tell "SpurCharger" this a million times but he/she just doesnt get it. Bruce and his family's home and life is in San Antonio. If it's not playing with the Spurs...it's nowhere, and just retirement.

[Spursfan092120]

CIA Pop in full effect.
I hope so..that's be great.


+1000000000. I've tried to tell "SpurCharger" this a million times but he/she just doesnt get it. Bruce and his family's home and life is in San Antonio. If it's not playing with the Spurs...it's nowhere, and just retirement.
Yeah...I don't see Bruce picking up and moving away from his family for a year or two, and I know his family won't leave. Bruce loves his family...a LOT more than basketball..I just don't see it.

[bigfan]

Dont see it happening myself, I really am a Bruce fan and want to see his number retired but have to say we cant afford him now.

[cleannfresh4life]

:aceWhos going to get Kobe?, LeBron?, Wade? is it ginobili? Who if so going to be worn out by seasons end. What about jefferson? Has he even been considered a good defender?I wont even go there with Finley! Or what about Raja Bell! if you thought yeah why not, how about counting how many playoff series he has won and compare that with bowen. They need some way to get bowen back on this team, then we would have depth on the bench just as much as any team. WHOS WITH ME:ace

Tim Bowen Hill
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Richard Bonner Hailsip
manu Finley Ratlift
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[1usamotorsports.com]

hard to read that font

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Your font sucks.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I think we should have a mandatory one day temporary ban for anyone who links to RealGM or Hoopsworld.

[spursfaninla]

Yeah, your font choice was a bad idea.

I understand wishing that Bowen could stay with the team forever, but come to terms with the truth: Bowen is just ancient.

FACE FACTS: He slowed down such that his defense no longer overcame his liability on offense.

He is an all-time favorite, and I wish he could have held off father time longer.

Spursfans need to deal with it.

Also, your player list is kind of silly and random, because it is not based on any logical arrangement.

[BackHome]

I would love to see Bruce and Sean being the PA annoucers for the Spurs home games.

[Pistons < Spurs]

Charlie Villenueva on Twitter:


CV31 Hey I just heard Milwaukee Bucks have requested waivers on Bruce Bowen & Salim Stoudamire. Man I was trying to get Bruce to rent my house :(

:lol

[ploto]

A source told Yahoo! that Bowen will contemplate retirement.

paging Johnny Ludden

[Slippy]

Bowen's competitive nature should mean he wants consistent mins so i don't think he comes back. The Spurs will do the right thing by him by not promising anything more than spot mins when the situation arises. Similar to how he was used last season. Can't see Bowen wanting to accept that type of role.

Good luck to him in finding the right fit.

[SA210]

Bring Bruce back and we have the best chance at another ring. Without him, not so much.

[xtremesteven33]

Reasons why Bowen should come back:

1. Kobe (his toughest defender PER Kobe)
2. Carmelo (Ive seen Bowen shut him down a couple times)
3. Terry (I love seeing Bowen own this douche)
4. CP3 (These guys always play physical and Bowen always gets in his head)
5. Allen (If Spurs play the Celtics in the Finals, Allen vs Bowen would be worth the price of admission)

[Pucho!!!]

What about bruce coming back as a defensive assistant coach? Makes lots of sense :flag:

[ajballer4]

I would love to see Bruce and Sean being the PA annoucers for the Spurs home games.

For sure. They already are great friends so it would be a perfect fit

[td4mvp21]

I just want Bruce to leave the Spurs for good with something way better than a first round exit. A ring would be preferred but I would at least want him to go out with a good solid playoff run. He deserves that with all he's done for us.

[longtimelurker]

If Marcus Williams doesn't pan out by the all star break/trade deadline he can be traded/waived and Bruce can be signed for the end of the year and playoffs.

[Hoy]

Bring Bruce back and we have the best chance at another ring. Without him, not so much.


You are stupid.

[EricB]

Bring Bruce back and we have the best chance at another ring. Without him, not so much.

You got a little bit of Bowen jizz in the corner of your mouth still there skippy.

[SA210]

You got a little bit of Bowen jizz in the corner of your mouth still there skippy.

Dude, honestly.. Is this really how you talk to people all the time, I mean really, always? How can anyone respect you with the trash you spew everyday?

[SA210]

You are stupid.

Nah, I'm realistic.

It's better to have Bruce at the end of the bench not logging any minutes, and being able to call on him in the playoffs cuz Kobe or someone is torching us and then he goes in and saves us, than to not be able to use that card at all cuz he's not on the team.

Mark my words come playoff time. Don't talk trash thru the whole season, wait till the playofs and see what I'm talking about.

[Nathan Explosion]

What about bruce coming back as a defensive assistant coach? Makes lots of sense :flag:

Bruce has come out and said that he doesn't want to coach period.

[narmerguy]

Bruce has come out and said that he doesn't want to coach period.

Proof?

[SA210]

ericb needs to get off finley's nuts and realize

bowen > finley

[Duncanonu]

I don't see Bruce coming back, however if you asked me which I'd rather have among Finley and Bruce, I would take Bruce. The reality is that Finley is still under contract and Bowen is not. Trading Finley would prove very difficult, as would dealing Bonner. I see package trade proposals on here all the time involving Finley and Bonner. The only thing that we could get for a package of those two is a contract that someone wants to be rid of. Both of those players would be at the end of any true contenders bench not seeing playing time.

Bowen has certainly lost a step or two, but he is still a good perimeter defender, something we do need. If he would agree to a role as a bench warmer at the vet minimum, I'm all for it. Even last year, with his age showing, he still bothered star players better than any other Spur perimeter players.

That being said, to say our title chances hinge on Bowen is silly, and simply not true. This is not the Bowen of old, but I'd still take him for the year over Finley or Bonner. I just think a defensive minded wing like Bruce would be a better fit eating some SF minutes in relief of the offensive minded RJ. The two spots off the bench that scare me most are PG and SF. I'm willing to take my chances on Hill or a later veteran pickup if Hill does not get the job done as backup PG. I'm not so sold at the prospects of our backup SF position right now. Finley is aging fast and is an awful defender and Bonner is even worse defensively (especially at SF). Our best option at this point is Malik Hairston in my point of view, and Bowen would provide some insurance on the court. He knows the system, the players love him, and he could be valuable as a mentor as well.

I don't think Bruce is crucial in any way, but I would prefer to have him back here. If it costs the vet minimum and he understands he won't get consistent minutes, then what would it hurt?

A trade of Bonner and Finley would be ideal to me, but I don't think anyone wants them. So here is what we have if we were to sign Bruce...

Parker - Hill - Williams
Manu - Mason - Finley
Jefferson - Bowen - Hairston
McDyess - Blair - Haislip - Bonner
Duncan - Ratliff - Ian

Obviously, we would need to trim the roster by one spot. To me it seems that Bonner should actually be the most likely man out, but then again Williams, Haislip, and Ian still have much to prove. If you put a gun to my head, however, I'd say Williams would be the man to go if Bruce were brought back.

[Rapper]

No offense to Bruce

But the spurs don't need the veteran Bruce Bowen anymore

It's hurt but true

[PaulGreco]

I'm feelin the same way. Bruce is a great guy for the community, but I think we saw down the stretch how much Pop believed him. He wouldn't be a bad roll player, maybe if Pop cut his minutes to 10-12 a game, but not sure how Bruce would handle.

This was a guy who went from not playing defense well to be one of the best in the league. He turned his game around while in Miami and the Spurs reaped the benefits.

[Pistons < Spurs]

HoopsWorld: Will Bowen Pick Celtics Or Cavs?


Two years ago during a playoff series against the San Antonio Spurs, Amar'e Stoudemire of the Phoenix Suns referred to then Spurs swing-guard Bruce Bowen as a "dirty player".

As of last Friday, a brand new moniker was slapped on Bowen: "waived".

Now at the age of 38-years-old, the three-time world champion and one of the leagues better known defenders the past several seasons is looking for a clean start to a career that's spanned 13-years in the NBA.

Could his next stop have a ring to it?

When the Milwaukee Bucks requested waivers on Bowen – whom they acquired from San Antonio in mid-June as part of a three-team trade along with Detroit – they possibly assumed he'd return to the franchise where'd he'd spent the last eight seasons. Yet in the coming week, either the Boston Celtics or the Cleveland Cavaliers will be sending Bucks General Manager John Hammond a big thank you for gift wrapping Bowen, leaving the best in the East to get even better towards championship aspirations.

The Orlando Magic also had their name mentioned on the shortlist for Bowen's services, but those initial suitors have basically come down to Boston and Cleveland at this point.

According to published reports, a return to the Spurs appears "unlikely", while the Celtics are said to be holding off on signing free agent Marquis Daniels of the Indiana Pacers until management can decide if adding Bowen to their roster is more feasible.

On the same day Milwaukee waived Bowen, Boston declined to pick up the option on reserve point guard Gabe Pruitt, creating an open roster spot if they now choose to add a defensive presence that has been lacking since swingman James Posey exited town after the Celtics seized an NBA title in 2008.

Currently, Boston has a bi-annual exception estimated at $1.9 to apply to either Bowen or Daniels. But what is the deeper immediate need? Some believe that money should go towards a back-up point guard to Rajon Rondo, particularly now since the front office is hesitant to re-sign Stephon Marbury.

Others say the addition of Bowen would only help solidify Boston's team chemistry.

Much like Boston though, Cleveland also made room on their roster last week and have a little money to spend.

Last Wednesday, the Cavs – who have their bi-annual exception – waived guard Tarence Kinsey. It was simply one move in a long list of offseason activity in Cleveland this summer. First it was Shaquille O'Neal, and most recently Anthony Parker and Jamario Moon joined the mix. But that's not all. Now the front office is chasing a reserve power forward.

After Hakim Warrick signed with Milwaukee the day Bowen was waived, attention has shifted to Celtics free agent Leon Powe. Reports out of Cleveland suggest the Cavs have offered Powe a contract described as a "short-term limited offer".

But that doesn't mean there isn't room for discussions with Bowen in Cleveland. If anything, they are just beginning.

The two sides will likely have talks in the coming days simply based on the relationships forged between Bowen, Cavs General Manager Danny Ferry and head coach Mike Brown from their days (2000-03) in San Antonio. Ferry and Bowen were teammates at that time, with Brown serving as an assistant coach under Gregg Popovich. In 2003, Bowen, Ferry, Brown and the Spurs captured an NBA championship.

Six years later, Bowen – who has been called everything from "dirty" to a defensive stopper – is a gun for hire, but for how long?

While time will tell, Bowen's free agent decision won't be about money.

It's about where he can go win another championship.http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=13494

[Nathan Explosion]

Proof?

The Morning Drive podcast. Peter Burns asked him if he wanted to coach and Bruce said that coaching is much more work than being a player and he wasn't down for doing more work.

He said he'd retire instead of coaching.

[xtremesteven33]

Dude, honestly.. Is this really how you talk to people all the time, I mean really, always? How can anyone respect you with the trash you spew everyday?



EricB is a fat turd.