kobe vs. jordan

[trajik dark]

if i had to pick i have to say kobe is better. far as all around skills not for what they acheive such as rings and mvp awards

[spursfaninla]

we don't care forum?

Or is it "no chance in hell" forum.

Maybe "laker self-fellatio" forum....

[honestfool84]

nope.

'nuff reason why jordan is better here. (http://kobevsjordan.bravehost.com/index.html)

[dbreiden83080]

Jordan is better than Kobe in basically every aspect of the game..

[SpurCharger]

Jordan Is the Best Basketball Player to Ever Step On A NBA Court...... Kobe Might not Even Be top 5 yet....

[Sparco41]

nope.

'nuff reason why jordan is better here. (http://kobevsjordan.bravehost.com/index.html)

Good link for Jordan's stats. I was a big Magic Johnson fan in the day and it was hard for me to admit that Jordan was a superior player. IMHO, Magic Johnson and Larry Bird were as good as Kobe Bryant. But, Jordan was a level above the three of them and everybody else.

[PGDynasty24]

whats with spurs fans and their obsession with kobe?

[timaios]

whats with spurs fans and their obsession with kobe?

1st : the OP is obviously a Lakers fan.
2nd : what about your obsession with the Spurs.

[eyeh8u]

Jordan Is the Best Basketball Player to Ever Step On A NBA Court...... Kobe Might not Even Be top 5 yet....

Russell is even, fuck all of you that dont agree with me

[angelbelow]

wrong choice wrong place for this thread wrong wrong wrong wrong

[honestfool84]

jordan as the number 1 option = 6 championships.
kobe as the number 1 option = 1 championship.

right.

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:D

[BOHOLANO#21]

jordan is in the level by himself.... sorry ass thread starter who's a kobenuthugger. suck his balls by your lonesome:lol

[Cry Havoc]

This thread is

http://phillips.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/10/16/1016_gay_twins.jpg

[KSeal]

This place is turning into Lakers Ground

MJ>>>>>>>>>>>>Kobe.

[exstatic]

Kobe's spent his whole career copying MJ. Even Kobe knows who the best is.

[CFH]

Please tell me you're joking. :lol

[Chieflion]

MJ owns Kobe even now. MJ uses the Bobcats as his pawns to kick Kobe's ass.

[honestfool84]

MJ owns Kobe even now. MJ uses the Bobcats as his pawns to kick Kobe's ass.

:lol

[Spursfan092120]

nope.

'nuff reason why jordan is better here. (http://kobevsjordan.bravehost.com/index.html)

wow..great website...

[Spursfan092120]

MJ owns Kobe even now. MJ uses the Bobcats as his pawns to kick Kobe's ass.
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[Spursfan092120]

This place is turning into Lakers Ground

MJ>>>>>>>>>>>>Kobe.
Thank you....good god..this isn't about Laker hate..this is about reality..

[Showtime24 LAKERS]

http://www.pickyourshoes.com/images/shoes/sp950705wht.jpg
and this is coming from a Lakers/Kobe's fan!!!

[Spursfan092120]

How is this thread still open?

[SpurCharger]

This thread is

http://phillips.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/10/16/1016_gay_twins.jpg

Lmao!!!

[narmerguy]

wow..great website...

Awesome website.

[honestfool84]

http://kobevsjordan.bravehost.com/part_3.html


Kobe could make 1500 shots in a row, and he'd barely pass Jordan in FG%.

Now let's assume that Kobe takes 2000 shots per season like the ballhog he has been shown to be.

At that rate he'd need to convert on 56.3% of his shot attempts for the next five years. We know this is impossible already, especially for a guard. Even MJ couldn't do it for a season!

Or perhaps Kobe plays for ten more years, averaging 1500 shots per season. He'd need to shoot over 54% to match Jordan, and once again, Jordan barely did this himself for one season.

If Kobe played until he was 50, another 21 years and every game of every season starting now, he would still have to average 32.6 ppg just to near Jordan's career ppg. HAHA!

If Kobe played another ten years (which he won't), and averaged 80 games each season (800 games total), he would have to average over 35.5 points per game to match Jordan's career scoring average. Kobe won't even have a season on that level.

If Kobe played another 8 years for 640 more games, 36.9 ppg.

If Kobe played another 5 years for 400 more games, 41 ppg.

If Kobe wanted to match Jordan's average by the time he has been playing as long as Jordan did, 45.1 ppg... yeah right.

[23LeBronJames23]

Kobe's spent his whole career copying MJ. Even Kobe knows who the best is.

[IronMexican]

MJ, obviously. You really are senile to think otherwise.

[The Franchise]

if i had to pick i have to say kobe is better. far as all around skills not for what they acheive such as rings and mvp awards

You were obviously to young to watch Jordan play. I'm so sick of these stupid fucking threads. :bang

[Culburn369]

Sittin' out that year for gambling degeneracy does give one pause.

Thank Christ, Jordan wasn't white like Rose, eh?

[Spursfan092120]

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[Spursfan092120]

you were obviously to young to watch jordan play. I'm so sick of these stupid fucking threads. :bang
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[JustBlaze]

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[eyeh8u]

Not that i am voting Kobe i can bedunk alot this all.

Kobe could make 1500 shots in a row, and he'd barely pass Jordan in FG%. ok

Now let's assume that Kobe takes 2000 shots per season like the ballhog he has been shown to be. Jordan was just as much a ballhog, just a beloved one

At that rate he'd need to convert on 56.3% of his shot attempts for the next five years. We know this is impossible already, especially for a guard. Even MJ couldn't do it for a season! ok

Or perhaps Kobe plays for ten more years, averaging 1500 shots per season. He'd need to shoot over 54% to match Jordan, and once again, Jordan barely did this himself for one season. same point stated in 3 different ways. Artis Gilmore's FG% was .599 that doesnt make him better than Jordan

If Kobe played until he was 50, another 21 years and every game of every season starting now, he would still have to average 32.6 ppg just to near Jordan's career ppg. HAHA! Kobe came into the league not even the third option and played more than half his career as a second option.

If Kobe played another ten years (which he won't), and averaged 80 games each season (800 games total), he would have to average over 35.5 points per game to match Jordan's career scoring average. Kobe won't even have a season on that level. Jordan was drafted third and was catapulted into being the star role on a unknown Chicago squad, The some best jordan years were the ones where he averaged his least ppg per season.

If Kobe played another 8 years for 640 more games, 36.9 ppg. Stating the same thing in a different way, you dont get bonus points for paraphrasing ability

If Kobe played another 5 years for 400 more games, 41 ppg. Stating the same thing in a different way, you dont get bonus points for paraphrasing ability
If Kobe wanted to match Jordan's average by the time he has been playing as long as Jordan did, 45.1 ppg... yeah right. Stating the same thing in a different way, you dont get bonus points for paraphrasing ability

[Allanon]

No, Kobe isn't better than Jordan, yet.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Russell is even, fuck all of you that dont agree with me

Russell is the most overrated player of all time.

[Muser]

No, Kobe isn't better than Jordan, yet.


If he's not better yet then he won't be better in the future.

[turiaf for president]

MJ owns Kobe even now. MJ uses the Bobcats as his pawns to kick Kobe's ass.

:rollin

so true lol

[narmerguy]

Not that i am voting Kobe i can bedunk alot this all.

Kobe could make 1500 shots in a row, and he'd barely pass Jordan in FG%. ok

Now let's assume that Kobe takes 2000 shots per season like the ballhog he has been shown to be. Jordan was just as much a ballhog, just a beloved one

At that rate he'd need to convert on 56.3% of his shot attempts for the next five years. We know this is impossible already, especially for a guard. Even MJ couldn't do it for a season! ok

Or perhaps Kobe plays for ten more years, averaging 1500 shots per season. He'd need to shoot over 54% to match Jordan, and once again, Jordan barely did this himself for one season. same point stated in 3 different ways. Artis Gilmore's FG% was .599 that doesnt make him better than Jordan

If Kobe played until he was 50, another 21 years and every game of every season starting now, he would still have to average 32.6 ppg just to near Jordan's career ppg. HAHA! Kobe came into the league not even the third option and played more than half his career as a second option.

If Kobe played another ten years (which he won't), and averaged 80 games each season (800 games total), he would have to average over 35.5 points per game to match Jordan's career scoring average. Kobe won't even have a season on that level. Jordan was drafted third and was catapulted into being the star role on a unknown Chicago squad, The some best jordan years were the ones where he averaged his least ppg per season.

If Kobe played another 8 years for 640 more games, 36.9 ppg. Stating the same thing in a different way, you dont get bonus points for paraphrasing ability

If Kobe played another 5 years for 400 more games, 41 ppg. Stating the same thing in a different way, you dont get bonus points for paraphrasing ability
If Kobe wanted to match Jordan's average by the time he has been playing as long as Jordan did, 45.1 ppg... yeah right. Stating the same thing in a different way, you dont get bonus points for paraphrasing ability

What have you debunked? When he makes a good point all you say is "ok". Ok, so if he paraphrases a good point 3 times, pretend he did it just once. Now address that point. You could just as well paraphrase your answer if you had one.

Kobe was third option and second option for a lot of his career...that's the point. He wasn't good enough even in his early years to be considered a top option. You haven't debunked a single thing.

[monosylab1k]

During the BUMP/mono regime, all Kobe vs. Jordan threads will be terminated on sight.

¡VIVA LA REVOLUCION!

[hater]

check my sig

[hater]

Kobe needs a top 10 bigman to win it all. Jordan didn't.

[Allanon]

Jordan needs a Hall of Fame sidekick to win it all. Kobe doesn't.

[hater]

LOL Hall of Fame. Gasol makes it in there easy

[Allanon]

Jordan needed one of the Top 50 Greatest Players ever to win it all. Kobe doesn't.

[hater]

you can keep spinning it but you know deep inside Jordan won 6 ships on his own. Kobe needs all the help he can get(even injuries to Celtics/Spurs) to win even 1.

[Allanon]

lol.

[BUMP]

LOL Hall of Fame. Gasol makes it in there easy

you're a dumbass

Gasol makes it in easy then what about Pippen. Pippen is a top 50 player of all time, Pau gets nowhere close to that. Jordan never won once without Pippen

you make about as much sense as a dog chasing his tail

[hater]

you're a dumbass

Gasol makes it in easy then what about Pippen. Pippen is a top 50 player of all time, Pau gets nowhere close to that. Jordan never won once without Pippen

you make about as much sense as a dog chasing his tail

so you are saying Kobe > Jordan?

[DAF86]

Jordan needed one of the Top 50 Greatest Players ever to win it all. Kobe doesn't.

Pippen isn't one of the top 50 greatest players of all time.

[LnGrrrR]

Russell is the most overrated player of all time.

Eh, it's tough to be overrated when you've got 11 rings. I think he's rated about right, in the top 10 to 20 players of all time.

[hater]

Pippen isn't one of the top 50 greatest players of all time.

of course he is not. these idiots are going by what NBA at 50 came up with years go...

[Allanon]

Pippen isn't one of the top 50 greatest players of all time.

He was named to the NBA's All Time 50 and is probably one of the best Small Forwards to ever play the game.

[LnGrrrR]

During the BUMP/mono regime, all Kobe vs. Jordan threads will be terminated on sight.

¡VIVA LA REVOLUCION!

I voted for you. :tu

[LnGrrrR]

He was named to the NBA's All Time 50 and is probably one of the best Small Forwards to ever play the game.

I'm pretty sure this board could come up with 50 better players...

[Allanon]

I'm pretty sure this board could come up with 50 better players...

Possibly. But even if the board could come up with 50 more, he was still on the list of 50 Greatest Players as published by the NBA.

I don't think anybody Kobe's playing with will ever sniff top 100.

[hater]

He was named to the NBA's All Time 50 and is probably one of the best Small Forwards to ever play the game.

you must not be familiar with the term "overrated"

[dirk4mvp]

you must not be familiar with the term "overrated"

You're not very bright if you think Pippen is overrated.

[Allanon]

you must not be familiar with the term "overrated"

Even if somebody Kobe plays with gets "overrated" they're never even going to overrate themselves into Top 100.

Even if you say he's overrated, Pippen's one of the greatest Small Forwards of all time, the guys Kobe plays with will never get that kind of distinction.

There's only a handful of Small Forwards that were better than Pippen, that's hard to say he was overrated.

[BUMP]

:rolleyes

oh yeah im sure when people have to choose who's more credible they're gonna side with a random poster named "hater" on spurstalk.com over numerous AP writers.

yeah its debatable but ur opinion doesn't count because you're a clueless dumbfuck

you're the same guy who thinks that fans of NBA championship teams are automatically more knowledgable about the game because they root for teams who are good

[hater]

Even if somebody Kobe plays with gets "overrated" they're never even going to overrate themselves into Top 100.

Even if you say he's overrated, Pippen's one of the greatest Small Forwards of all time, the guys Kobe plays with will never get that kind of distinction.

There's only a handful of Small Forwards that were better than Pippen, that's hard to say he was overrated.

keep spinning it. The point is Kobe is getting more help to win 1 ring that Jordan ever did to win 6. Just face reality.

[Allanon]

keep spinning it. The point is Kobe is getting more help to win 1 ring that Jordan ever did to win 6. Just face reality.

It's debateable...I'd say Kobe has less talent around him than Jordan did

Pau Gasol < Scottie Pippen
Lamar Odom < Dennis Rodman
Fisher < Kerr
Bynum (playoffs) < Luc Longley

[hater]

:lmao

wow. Kerr > Fish????

Longley > Bynum

:lol

pathetic that you go to such extremes.

[Allanon]

:lmao

wow. Kerr > Fish????

Longley > Bynum

:lol

I think Steve Kerr owns the highest 3pt shooting percentage of all time? Fisher is a good guard, that's about it. Look it up.

Bynum in the Playoffs was terrible, everybody knows it. He'd be lucky to have been half of Luc Longley. Bynum averaged 4 fouls in 20 minutes in the Finals.

[hater]

have you ever seen Kerr dribble a basketball?

[Allanon]

have you ever seen Kerr dribble a basketball?

What does this have to do with his #1 3pt shooting % of all time?

There isn't any positive stat that Fisher is even Top 10 in all time.

[Muser]

Somebody compare the 09 Magic team the Lakers played in the final to Pippens last ring (98 Utah Jazz), I cba.

[hater]

What does this have to do with his #1 3pt shooting % of all time?

There isn't any positive stat that Fisher is even Top 10 in all time.



you are dumb. Fish might be slowing down but he is >>>>> Kerr ever was. Ball-handling, Passing, Defense, Rebounding immensely superior to Kerr.

[Allanon]

you are dumb. Fish might be slowing down but he is >>>>> Kerr ever was. Ball-handling, Passing, Defense, Rebounding immensely superior to Kerr.

And you're a stupid mother fucker.

Kerr is the ALL-TIME NBA leader in 3pt shooting percent in a season AND for a career aka #1 of ALL NBA players ever and you're saying Fisher is > Kerr? :lol

[hater]

because 3pt shooting is the #1 skill when judging PGs :idiot

[DAF86]

W_WNTx3gG_s

The shooting % people.

[it's me]

This shit is getting old.... everybody knows the rapist can't be even mentioned with Mr Jordan in the same sentence. Lakers trolls are so obvious.

[Allanon]

because 3pt shooting is the #1 skill when judging PGs :idiot

Kerr was the BEST at what he does, dumbshit. Fisher is never best at anything, he's a decent point guard, never great.

Kerr was the #1 3 point percentage shooter .. both in a season and for his career.... of ALL TIME, it's not even close. He shot better percentages than the Greats like Larry Bird, Reggie Miller, etc. Fisher can't compare to any of the Greats in any category.

[Muser]

Who's more clutch, Robert Horry or Derek Fisher?

Just tryin' to change the mood.

[Allanon]

Who's more clutch, Robert Horry or Derek Fisher?

Just tryin' to change the mood.

Robert Horry.

[DAF86]

Allanon stop it, Fisher is better than Kerr in almost every way possible.

Fisher > Kerr as an all-around basketball player.

[Allanon]

Allanon stop it, Fisher is better than Kerr in almost every way possible.

Fisher > Kerr as an all-around basketball player.

Sorry, I very much disagree Daf. Kerr >>>> Fisher.

Give me prime Kerr over prime Fisher any day.

[hater]

Kerr was the BEST at what he does, dumbshit. Fisher is never best at anything, he's a decent point guard, never great.

Kerr was the #1 3 point percentage shooter .. both in a season and for his career.... of ALL TIME, it's not even close. He shot better percentages than the Greats like Larry Bird, Reggie Miller, etc. Fisher can't compare to any of the Greats in any category.

obviously you one stupid motherfucker so I'm gonna tell you one last time. When picking a PG you pick the "decent PG" over the shitty PG who shoots 100% from 3pt land.

good luck having Kerr handle the ball in the playoffs. Oh and good luck having Kerr guard the elite PGs like Parker.

FIsh is getting old but he is damn solid PG still.

in order to even attempt to make Kerr work in Lakers system, they would have to play like the old Bulls. Kobe would have to handle the rock 95% of the time. And we know that has not worked for the Lakers, thus they have to rely more on the traditional PG(fisher came back) and involve the likes of Gasol/Odom/Bynum.

so in conclusion, NO. Kerr is not > Fisher :lol

[Allanon]

obviously you one stupid motherfucker so I'm gonna tell you one last time. When picking a PG you pick the "decent PG" over the shitty PG who shoots 100% from 3pt land.

good luck having Kerr handle the ball in the playoffs. Oh and good luck having Kerr guard the elite PGs like Parker.

FIsh is getting old but he is damn solid PG still.

Listen up retarded hater. Maybe this is too big for your pea-sized brain but Kerr was the BEST 3 point shooter at that time. Fisher is an average point guard that has made a couple of clutch shots.

Fisher can't guard Parker, why should I care if Kerr guards him? Tony Parker lights Fisher up like a Christmas tree. Same way Allen Iverson did that's why Fisher was benched for Tyron Lue back in the early 2000's

Fisher wasn't even a starting point guard for the Jazz. Fisher is a starting guard for the Lakers because Smush Parker sucks, Jordan Farmar sucks. On any other team, Fisher would be a backup PG. All of a sudden fools like you think Fisher is a god or something :lol

[hater]

Listen up retarded hater. Maybe this is too big for your pea-sized brain but Kerr was the BEST 3 point shooter at that time. Fisher is an average point guard that has made a couple of clutch shots.

Fisher can't guard Parker, why should I care if Kerr guards him? Tony Parker lights Fisher up like a Christmas tree. Same way Allen Iverson did that's why Fisher was benched for Tyron Lue back in the early 2000's

Fisher wasn't even a starting point guard for the Jazz. Fisher is a starting guard for the Lakers because Smush Parker sucks, Jordan Farmar sucks. On any other team, Fisher would be a backup PG. All of a sudden fools like you think Fisher is a god or something :lol

allright motherfucker you did it this time. Time to break out a Fisher vs. Kerr Poll. u asked for it bitch :wow

[Allanon]

allright motherfucker you did it this time. Time to break out a Fisher vs. Kerr Poll. u asked for it bitch :wow

Whatever, penile implant. Just because Spurfan was killed by Fish's .4, that doesn't mean he was a great player.

[BRHornet45]

sons this needs to be changed to something like "Kobe vs Pippen" or "Kobe vs Pierce" .... Kobe has ABSOLUTELY NO BUSINESS even being in the same sentence with Michael Jordan. The fact that so many people buy into this guy's media hype is laughable and shows just how damn gullible some people can be. Kobe is a damn good player, but far from "great". god bless

[sonic21]

people are being harsh with kobe, he is a great player now and he was a good role player during the 3-peat.

Easily top 25 imo

[fo'shizzle]

sons this needs to be changed to something like "Kobe vs Pippen" or "Kobe vs Pierce" .... Kobe has ABSOLUTELY NO BUSINESS even being in the same sentence with Michael Jordan. The fact that so many people buy into this guy's media hype is laughable and shows just how damn gullible some people can be. Kobe is a damn good player, but far from "great". god bless

I muthafuckin' co-sign this son!

[ezau]

No, Kobe isn't better than Jordan, yet.

This is already the best Kobe that we'll see. In short, this is his peak so there is no way that he'll get any better.

[ezau]

Jordan needed one of the Top 50 Greatest Players ever to win it all. Kobe doesn't.

Shaq isn't top 50 overall? :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[ezau]

sons this needs to be changed to something like "Kobe vs Pippen" or "Kobe vs Pierce" .... Kobe has ABSOLUTELY NO BUSINESS even being in the same sentence with Michael Jordan. The fact that so many people buy into this guy's media hype is laughable and shows just how damn gullible some people can be. Kobe is a damn good player, but far from "great". god bless

Fucking well said sons!

[holcs50]

Whatever, penile implant. Just because Spurfan was killed by Fish's .4, that doesn't mean he was a great player.

ha, true. I must still say tho that shot is really BS, but we all know that by now. Good job spurs clock manager-I would like to snipe him.

Anyways as for kobe and mike-please mike is on another level, sometimes i feel like the only people who bring this up are teens who only have seen kobe the last few years and never got to watch mike. This is like ESPN bball boards-all these kobe kids claiming shit, NO he's not even close to MJ. He is definitely a great player, but lets please stop those comparisons, there's not one thing besides 3's that kobe is better than mj at. done.