View Full Version : kobe vs. jordan
trajik dark
08-01-2009, 08:19 PM
if i had to pick i have to say kobe is better. far as all around skills not for what they acheive such as rings and mvp awards
spursfaninla
08-01-2009, 08:23 PM
we don't care forum?
Or is it "no chance in hell" forum.
Maybe "laker self-fellatio" forum....
honestfool84
08-01-2009, 08:24 PM
nope.
'nuff reason why jordan is better here. (http://kobevsjordan.bravehost.com/index.html)
dbreiden83080
08-01-2009, 08:34 PM
Jordan is better than Kobe in basically every aspect of the game..
SpurCharger
08-01-2009, 08:41 PM
Jordan Is the Best Basketball Player to Ever Step On A NBA Court...... Kobe Might not Even Be top 5 yet....
Sparco41
08-01-2009, 08:44 PM
nope.
'nuff reason why jordan is better here. (http://kobevsjordan.bravehost.com/index.html)
Good link for Jordan's stats. I was a big Magic Johnson fan in the day and it was hard for me to admit that Jordan was a superior player. IMHO, Magic Johnson and Larry Bird were as good as Kobe Bryant. But, Jordan was a level above the three of them and everybody else.
PGDynasty24
08-01-2009, 08:46 PM
whats with spurs fans and their obsession with kobe?
timaios
08-01-2009, 08:53 PM
whats with spurs fans and their obsession with kobe?
1st : the OP is obviously a Lakers fan.
2nd : what about your obsession with the Spurs.
eyeh8u
08-01-2009, 08:53 PM
Jordan Is the Best Basketball Player to Ever Step On A NBA Court...... Kobe Might not Even Be top 5 yet....
Russell is even, fuck all of you that dont agree with me
angelbelow
08-01-2009, 08:54 PM
wrong choice wrong place for this thread wrong wrong wrong wrong
honestfool84
08-01-2009, 09:02 PM
jordan as the number 1 option = 6 championships.
kobe as the number 1 option = 1 championship.
right.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3357/3561933218_9aea23e4f3.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2028/2426587671_28209a6149.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2458/3713703703_d888290588.jpg
:D
BOHOLANO#21
08-01-2009, 09:11 PM
jordan is in the level by himself.... sorry ass thread starter who's a kobenuthugger. suck his balls by your lonesome:lol
Cry Havoc
08-01-2009, 09:12 PM
This thread is
http://phillips.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/10/16/1016_gay_twins.jpg
KSeal
08-01-2009, 09:46 PM
This place is turning into Lakers Ground
MJ>>>>>>>>>>>>Kobe.
exstatic
08-01-2009, 11:14 PM
Kobe's spent his whole career copying MJ. Even Kobe knows who the best is.
Please tell me you're joking. :lol
Chieflion
08-02-2009, 12:36 AM
MJ owns Kobe even now. MJ uses the Bobcats as his pawns to kick Kobe's ass.
honestfool84
08-02-2009, 12:37 AM
MJ owns Kobe even now. MJ uses the Bobcats as his pawns to kick Kobe's ass.
:lol
Spursfan092120
08-02-2009, 01:05 AM
nope.
'nuff reason why jordan is better here. (http://kobevsjordan.bravehost.com/index.html)
wow..great website...
Spursfan092120
08-02-2009, 01:06 AM
MJ owns Kobe even now. MJ uses the Bobcats as his pawns to kick Kobe's ass.
http://www.21stcenturyabe.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/lincoln_awesome.jpg
Spursfan092120
08-02-2009, 01:07 AM
This place is turning into Lakers Ground
MJ>>>>>>>>>>>>Kobe.
Thank you....good god..this isn't about Laker hate..this is about reality..
Showtime24 LAKERS
08-02-2009, 01:11 AM
http://www.pickyourshoes.com/images/shoes/sp950705wht.jpg
and this is coming from a Lakers/Kobe's fan!!!
Spursfan092120
08-02-2009, 01:11 AM
How is this thread still open?
SpurCharger
08-02-2009, 01:16 AM
This thread is
http://phillips.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/10/16/1016_gay_twins.jpg
Lmao!!!
narmerguy
08-02-2009, 01:45 AM
wow..great website...
Awesome website.
honestfool84
08-02-2009, 01:55 AM
http://kobevsjordan.bravehost.com/part_3.html
Kobe could make 1500 shots in a row, and he'd barely pass Jordan in FG%.
Now let's assume that Kobe takes 2000 shots per season like the ballhog he has been shown to be.
At that rate he'd need to convert on 56.3% of his shot attempts for the next five years. We know this is impossible already, especially for a guard. Even MJ couldn't do it for a season!
Or perhaps Kobe plays for ten more years, averaging 1500 shots per season. He'd need to shoot over 54% to match Jordan, and once again, Jordan barely did this himself for one season.
If Kobe played until he was 50, another 21 years and every game of every season starting now, he would still have to average 32.6 ppg just to near Jordan's career ppg. HAHA!
If Kobe played another ten years (which he won't), and averaged 80 games each season (800 games total), he would have to average over 35.5 points per game to match Jordan's career scoring average. Kobe won't even have a season on that level.
If Kobe played another 8 years for 640 more games, 36.9 ppg.
If Kobe played another 5 years for 400 more games, 41 ppg.
If Kobe wanted to match Jordan's average by the time he has been playing as long as Jordan did, 45.1 ppg... yeah right.
23LeBronJames23
08-02-2009, 01:56 AM
Kobe's spent his whole career copying MJ. Even Kobe knows who the best is.
IronMexican
08-02-2009, 02:56 AM
MJ, obviously. You really are senile to think otherwise.
The Franchise
08-02-2009, 05:21 AM
if i had to pick i have to say kobe is better. far as all around skills not for what they acheive such as rings and mvp awards
You were obviously to young to watch Jordan play. I'm so sick of these stupid fucking threads. :bang
Culburn369
08-02-2009, 07:39 AM
Sittin' out that year for gambling degeneracy does give one pause.
Thank Christ, Jordan wasn't white like Rose, eh?
Spursfan092120
08-02-2009, 12:16 PM
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Spursfan092120
08-02-2009, 12:17 PM
you were obviously to young to watch jordan play. I'm so sick of these stupid fucking threads. :bang
+10000000000000000
JustBlaze
08-02-2009, 12:39 PM
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eyeh8u
08-03-2009, 12:27 AM
Not that i am voting Kobe i can bedunk alot this all.
Kobe could make 1500 shots in a row, and he'd barely pass Jordan in FG%. ok
Now let's assume that Kobe takes 2000 shots per season like the ballhog he has been shown to be. Jordan was just as much a ballhog, just a beloved one
At that rate he'd need to convert on 56.3% of his shot attempts for the next five years. We know this is impossible already, especially for a guard. Even MJ couldn't do it for a season! ok
Or perhaps Kobe plays for ten more years, averaging 1500 shots per season. He'd need to shoot over 54% to match Jordan, and once again, Jordan barely did this himself for one season. same point stated in 3 different ways. Artis Gilmore's FG% was .599 that doesnt make him better than Jordan
If Kobe played until he was 50, another 21 years and every game of every season starting now, he would still have to average 32.6 ppg just to near Jordan's career ppg. HAHA! Kobe came into the league not even the third option and played more than half his career as a second option.
If Kobe played another ten years (which he won't), and averaged 80 games each season (800 games total), he would have to average over 35.5 points per game to match Jordan's career scoring average. Kobe won't even have a season on that level. Jordan was drafted third and was catapulted into being the star role on a unknown Chicago squad, The some best jordan years were the ones where he averaged his least ppg per season.
If Kobe played another 8 years for 640 more games, 36.9 ppg. Stating the same thing in a different way, you dont get bonus points for paraphrasing ability
If Kobe played another 5 years for 400 more games, 41 ppg. Stating the same thing in a different way, you dont get bonus points for paraphrasing ability
If Kobe wanted to match Jordan's average by the time he has been playing as long as Jordan did, 45.1 ppg... yeah right. Stating the same thing in a different way, you dont get bonus points for paraphrasing ability
Allanon
08-03-2009, 10:10 AM
No, Kobe isn't better than Jordan, yet.
DUNCANownsKOBE2
08-03-2009, 10:15 AM
Russell is even, fuck all of you that dont agree with me
Russell is the most overrated player of all time.
Muser
08-03-2009, 10:15 AM
No, Kobe isn't better than Jordan, yet.
If he's not better yet then he won't be better in the future.
turiaf for president
08-03-2009, 10:15 AM
MJ owns Kobe even now. MJ uses the Bobcats as his pawns to kick Kobe's ass.
:rollin
so true lol
narmerguy
08-03-2009, 11:45 AM
Not that i am voting Kobe i can bedunk alot this all.
Kobe could make 1500 shots in a row, and he'd barely pass Jordan in FG%. ok
Now let's assume that Kobe takes 2000 shots per season like the ballhog he has been shown to be. Jordan was just as much a ballhog, just a beloved one
At that rate he'd need to convert on 56.3% of his shot attempts for the next five years. We know this is impossible already, especially for a guard. Even MJ couldn't do it for a season! ok
Or perhaps Kobe plays for ten more years, averaging 1500 shots per season. He'd need to shoot over 54% to match Jordan, and once again, Jordan barely did this himself for one season. same point stated in 3 different ways. Artis Gilmore's FG% was .599 that doesnt make him better than Jordan
If Kobe played until he was 50, another 21 years and every game of every season starting now, he would still have to average 32.6 ppg just to near Jordan's career ppg. HAHA! Kobe came into the league not even the third option and played more than half his career as a second option.
If Kobe played another ten years (which he won't), and averaged 80 games each season (800 games total), he would have to average over 35.5 points per game to match Jordan's career scoring average. Kobe won't even have a season on that level. Jordan was drafted third and was catapulted into being the star role on a unknown Chicago squad, The some best jordan years were the ones where he averaged his least ppg per season.
If Kobe played another 8 years for 640 more games, 36.9 ppg. Stating the same thing in a different way, you dont get bonus points for paraphrasing ability
If Kobe played another 5 years for 400 more games, 41 ppg. Stating the same thing in a different way, you dont get bonus points for paraphrasing ability
If Kobe wanted to match Jordan's average by the time he has been playing as long as Jordan did, 45.1 ppg... yeah right. Stating the same thing in a different way, you dont get bonus points for paraphrasing ability
What have you debunked? When he makes a good point all you say is "ok". Ok, so if he paraphrases a good point 3 times, pretend he did it just once. Now address that point. You could just as well paraphrase your answer if you had one.
Kobe was third option and second option for a lot of his career...that's the point. He wasn't good enough even in his early years to be considered a top option. You haven't debunked a single thing.
monosylab1k
08-03-2009, 11:47 AM
During the BUMP/mono regime, all Kobe vs. Jordan threads will be terminated on sight.
¡VIVA LA REVOLUCION!
hater
08-03-2009, 11:48 AM
check my sig
hater
08-03-2009, 11:54 AM
Kobe needs a top 10 bigman to win it all. Jordan didn't.
Allanon
08-03-2009, 12:52 PM
Jordan needs a Hall of Fame sidekick to win it all. Kobe doesn't.
hater
08-03-2009, 01:04 PM
LOL Hall of Fame. Gasol makes it in there easy
Allanon
08-03-2009, 01:07 PM
Jordan needed one of the Top 50 Greatest Players ever to win it all. Kobe doesn't.
hater
08-03-2009, 01:09 PM
you can keep spinning it but you know deep inside Jordan won 6 ships on his own. Kobe needs all the help he can get(even injuries to Celtics/Spurs) to win even 1.
Allanon
08-03-2009, 01:12 PM
lol.
LOL Hall of Fame. Gasol makes it in there easy
you're a dumbass
Gasol makes it in easy then what about Pippen. Pippen is a top 50 player of all time, Pau gets nowhere close to that. Jordan never won once without Pippen
you make about as much sense as a dog chasing his tail
hater
08-03-2009, 01:19 PM
you're a dumbass
Gasol makes it in easy then what about Pippen. Pippen is a top 50 player of all time, Pau gets nowhere close to that. Jordan never won once without Pippen
you make about as much sense as a dog chasing his tail
so you are saying Kobe > Jordan?
DAF86
08-03-2009, 01:20 PM
Jordan needed one of the Top 50 Greatest Players ever to win it all. Kobe doesn't.
Pippen isn't one of the top 50 greatest players of all time.
LnGrrrR
08-03-2009, 01:25 PM
Russell is the most overrated player of all time.
Eh, it's tough to be overrated when you've got 11 rings. I think he's rated about right, in the top 10 to 20 players of all time.
hater
08-03-2009, 01:26 PM
Pippen isn't one of the top 50 greatest players of all time.
of course he is not. these idiots are going by what NBA at 50 came up with years go...
Allanon
08-03-2009, 01:26 PM
Pippen isn't one of the top 50 greatest players of all time.
He was named to the NBA's All Time 50 and is probably one of the best Small Forwards to ever play the game.
LnGrrrR
08-03-2009, 01:26 PM
During the BUMP/mono regime, all Kobe vs. Jordan threads will be terminated on sight.
¡VIVA LA REVOLUCION!
I voted for you. :tu
LnGrrrR
08-03-2009, 01:27 PM
He was named to the NBA's All Time 50 and is probably one of the best Small Forwards to ever play the game.
I'm pretty sure this board could come up with 50 better players...
Allanon
08-03-2009, 01:28 PM
I'm pretty sure this board could come up with 50 better players...
Possibly. But even if the board could come up with 50 more, he was still on the list of 50 Greatest Players as published by the NBA.
I don't think anybody Kobe's playing with will ever sniff top 100.
hater
08-03-2009, 01:28 PM
He was named to the NBA's All Time 50 and is probably one of the best Small Forwards to ever play the game.
you must not be familiar with the term "overrated"
dirk4mvp
08-03-2009, 01:29 PM
you must not be familiar with the term "overrated"
You're not very bright if you think Pippen is overrated.
Allanon
08-03-2009, 01:31 PM
you must not be familiar with the term "overrated"
Even if somebody Kobe plays with gets "overrated" they're never even going to overrate themselves into Top 100.
Even if you say he's overrated, Pippen's one of the greatest Small Forwards of all time, the guys Kobe plays with will never get that kind of distinction.
There's only a handful of Small Forwards that were better than Pippen, that's hard to say he was overrated.
:rolleyes
oh yeah im sure when people have to choose who's more credible they're gonna side with a random poster named "hater" on spurstalk.com over numerous AP writers.
yeah its debatable but ur opinion doesn't count because you're a clueless dumbfuck
you're the same guy who thinks that fans of NBA championship teams are automatically more knowledgable about the game because they root for teams who are good
hater
08-03-2009, 01:45 PM
Even if somebody Kobe plays with gets "overrated" they're never even going to overrate themselves into Top 100.
Even if you say he's overrated, Pippen's one of the greatest Small Forwards of all time, the guys Kobe plays with will never get that kind of distinction.
There's only a handful of Small Forwards that were better than Pippen, that's hard to say he was overrated.
keep spinning it. The point is Kobe is getting more help to win 1 ring that Jordan ever did to win 6. Just face reality.
Allanon
08-03-2009, 01:49 PM
keep spinning it. The point is Kobe is getting more help to win 1 ring that Jordan ever did to win 6. Just face reality.
It's debateable...I'd say Kobe has less talent around him than Jordan did
Pau Gasol < Scottie Pippen
Lamar Odom < Dennis Rodman
Fisher < Kerr
Bynum (playoffs) < Luc Longley
hater
08-03-2009, 01:50 PM
:lmao
wow. Kerr > Fish????
Longley > Bynum
:lol
pathetic that you go to such extremes.
Allanon
08-03-2009, 01:54 PM
:lmao
wow. Kerr > Fish????
Longley > Bynum
:lol
I think Steve Kerr owns the highest 3pt shooting percentage of all time? Fisher is a good guard, that's about it. Look it up.
Bynum in the Playoffs was terrible, everybody knows it. He'd be lucky to have been half of Luc Longley. Bynum averaged 4 fouls in 20 minutes in the Finals.
hater
08-03-2009, 01:54 PM
have you ever seen Kerr dribble a basketball?
Allanon
08-03-2009, 01:55 PM
have you ever seen Kerr dribble a basketball?
What does this have to do with his #1 3pt shooting % of all time?
There isn't any positive stat that Fisher is even Top 10 in all time.
Muser
08-03-2009, 01:56 PM
Somebody compare the 09 Magic team the Lakers played in the final to Pippens last ring (98 Utah Jazz), I cba.
hater
08-03-2009, 01:57 PM
What does this have to do with his #1 3pt shooting % of all time?
There isn't any positive stat that Fisher is even Top 10 in all time.
you are dumb. Fish might be slowing down but he is >>>>> Kerr ever was. Ball-handling, Passing, Defense, Rebounding immensely superior to Kerr.
Allanon
08-03-2009, 01:59 PM
you are dumb. Fish might be slowing down but he is >>>>> Kerr ever was. Ball-handling, Passing, Defense, Rebounding immensely superior to Kerr.
And you're a stupid mother fucker.
Kerr is the ALL-TIME NBA leader in 3pt shooting percent in a season AND for a career aka #1 of ALL NBA players ever and you're saying Fisher is > Kerr? :lol
hater
08-03-2009, 02:00 PM
because 3pt shooting is the #1 skill when judging PGs :idiot
DAF86
08-03-2009, 02:03 PM
W_WNTx3gG_s
The shooting % people.
it's me
08-03-2009, 02:04 PM
This shit is getting old.... everybody knows the rapist can't be even mentioned with Mr Jordan in the same sentence. Lakers trolls are so obvious.
Allanon
08-03-2009, 02:04 PM
because 3pt shooting is the #1 skill when judging PGs :idiot
Kerr was the BEST at what he does, dumbshit. Fisher is never best at anything, he's a decent point guard, never great.
Kerr was the #1 3 point percentage shooter .. both in a season and for his career.... of ALL TIME, it's not even close. He shot better percentages than the Greats like Larry Bird, Reggie Miller, etc. Fisher can't compare to any of the Greats in any category.
Muser
08-03-2009, 02:05 PM
Who's more clutch, Robert Horry or Derek Fisher?
Just tryin' to change the mood.
Allanon
08-03-2009, 02:05 PM
Who's more clutch, Robert Horry or Derek Fisher?
Just tryin' to change the mood.
Robert Horry.
DAF86
08-03-2009, 02:06 PM
Allanon stop it, Fisher is better than Kerr in almost every way possible.
Fisher > Kerr as an all-around basketball player.
Allanon
08-03-2009, 02:07 PM
Allanon stop it, Fisher is better than Kerr in almost every way possible.
Fisher > Kerr as an all-around basketball player.
Sorry, I very much disagree Daf. Kerr >>>> Fisher.
Give me prime Kerr over prime Fisher any day.
hater
08-03-2009, 02:07 PM
Kerr was the BEST at what he does, dumbshit. Fisher is never best at anything, he's a decent point guard, never great.
Kerr was the #1 3 point percentage shooter .. both in a season and for his career.... of ALL TIME, it's not even close. He shot better percentages than the Greats like Larry Bird, Reggie Miller, etc. Fisher can't compare to any of the Greats in any category.
obviously you one stupid motherfucker so I'm gonna tell you one last time. When picking a PG you pick the "decent PG" over the shitty PG who shoots 100% from 3pt land.
good luck having Kerr handle the ball in the playoffs. Oh and good luck having Kerr guard the elite PGs like Parker.
FIsh is getting old but he is damn solid PG still.
in order to even attempt to make Kerr work in Lakers system, they would have to play like the old Bulls. Kobe would have to handle the rock 95% of the time. And we know that has not worked for the Lakers, thus they have to rely more on the traditional PG(fisher came back) and involve the likes of Gasol/Odom/Bynum.
so in conclusion, NO. Kerr is not > Fisher :lol
Allanon
08-03-2009, 02:12 PM
obviously you one stupid motherfucker so I'm gonna tell you one last time. When picking a PG you pick the "decent PG" over the shitty PG who shoots 100% from 3pt land.
good luck having Kerr handle the ball in the playoffs. Oh and good luck having Kerr guard the elite PGs like Parker.
FIsh is getting old but he is damn solid PG still.
Listen up retarded hater. Maybe this is too big for your pea-sized brain but Kerr was the BEST 3 point shooter at that time. Fisher is an average point guard that has made a couple of clutch shots.
Fisher can't guard Parker, why should I care if Kerr guards him? Tony Parker lights Fisher up like a Christmas tree. Same way Allen Iverson did that's why Fisher was benched for Tyron Lue back in the early 2000's
Fisher wasn't even a starting point guard for the Jazz. Fisher is a starting guard for the Lakers because Smush Parker sucks, Jordan Farmar sucks. On any other team, Fisher would be a backup PG. All of a sudden fools like you think Fisher is a god or something :lol
hater
08-03-2009, 02:14 PM
Listen up retarded hater. Maybe this is too big for your pea-sized brain but Kerr was the BEST 3 point shooter at that time. Fisher is an average point guard that has made a couple of clutch shots.
Fisher can't guard Parker, why should I care if Kerr guards him? Tony Parker lights Fisher up like a Christmas tree. Same way Allen Iverson did that's why Fisher was benched for Tyron Lue back in the early 2000's
Fisher wasn't even a starting point guard for the Jazz. Fisher is a starting guard for the Lakers because Smush Parker sucks, Jordan Farmar sucks. On any other team, Fisher would be a backup PG. All of a sudden fools like you think Fisher is a god or something :lol
allright motherfucker you did it this time. Time to break out a Fisher vs. Kerr Poll. u asked for it bitch :wow
Allanon
08-03-2009, 02:15 PM
allright motherfucker you did it this time. Time to break out a Fisher vs. Kerr Poll. u asked for it bitch :wow
Whatever, penile implant. Just because Spurfan was killed by Fish's .4, that doesn't mean he was a great player.
BRHornet45
08-04-2009, 02:33 AM
sons this needs to be changed to something like "Kobe vs Pippen" or "Kobe vs Pierce" .... Kobe has ABSOLUTELY NO BUSINESS even being in the same sentence with Michael Jordan. The fact that so many people buy into this guy's media hype is laughable and shows just how damn gullible some people can be. Kobe is a damn good player, but far from "great". god bless
sonic21
08-04-2009, 04:35 AM
people are being harsh with kobe, he is a great player now and he was a good role player during the 3-peat.
Easily top 25 imo
fo'shizzle
08-04-2009, 04:37 AM
sons this needs to be changed to something like "Kobe vs Pippen" or "Kobe vs Pierce" .... Kobe has ABSOLUTELY NO BUSINESS even being in the same sentence with Michael Jordan. The fact that so many people buy into this guy's media hype is laughable and shows just how damn gullible some people can be. Kobe is a damn good player, but far from "great". god bless
I muthafuckin' co-sign this son!
No, Kobe isn't better than Jordan, yet.
This is already the best Kobe that we'll see. In short, this is his peak so there is no way that he'll get any better.
Jordan needed one of the Top 50 Greatest Players ever to win it all. Kobe doesn't.
Shaq isn't top 50 overall? :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao
sons this needs to be changed to something like "Kobe vs Pippen" or "Kobe vs Pierce" .... Kobe has ABSOLUTELY NO BUSINESS even being in the same sentence with Michael Jordan. The fact that so many people buy into this guy's media hype is laughable and shows just how damn gullible some people can be. Kobe is a damn good player, but far from "great". god bless
Fucking well said sons!
holcs50
08-04-2009, 05:04 AM
Whatever, penile implant. Just because Spurfan was killed by Fish's .4, that doesn't mean he was a great player.
ha, true. I must still say tho that shot is really BS, but we all know that by now. Good job spurs clock manager-I would like to snipe him.
Anyways as for kobe and mike-please mike is on another level, sometimes i feel like the only people who bring this up are teens who only have seen kobe the last few years and never got to watch mike. This is like ESPN bball boards-all these kobe kids claiming shit, NO he's not even close to MJ. He is definitely a great player, but lets please stop those comparisons, there's not one thing besides 3's that kobe is better than mj at. done.
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