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BlackSwordsMan

08-03-2009, 12:10 PM

http://mmajunkie.com/news/15713/breaking-news-strikeforce-signs-fedor-emelianenko-to-multi-fight-deal-m-1-to-co-promote.mma

Evan

08-03-2009, 12:22 PM

World's No. 1 MMA Heavyweight To Fight

In STRIKEFORCE / M-1 Global Co-Promoted Events

First Fight To Air This Fall, Live on SHOWTIME®

NEW YORK (August 3, 2009)--After a week of intense negotiations and speculation, the hottest topic of discussion in the professional fight world has come to a head as the world's number one heavyweight and most sought after mixed martial arts (MMA) champion Fedor "The Last Emperor" Emelianenko has signed a historic, multi-fight agreement that will see him headline mega-events co-promoted by world championship promotions STRIKEFORCE and M-1 Global.

Emelianenko, known globally as Fedor, will make his premium television debut this Fall when his first fight under the new agreement airs live on SHOWTIME®. Up until now, Emelianenko's live fights have aired exclusively on pay-per-view in the United States.

"I am looking forward to going back to work and fighting at the highest level," said the 33-year-old Emelianenko. During his nine year professional fight career, which included a four and a half year stay with the world's former top MMA promotion, the now defunct PRIDE Fighting Championship, the Russian native has faced and defeated all comers.

In his last effort, the 6-foot, 235-pound Emelianenko decimated the number two ranked heavyweight at the time Andrei "The Pitbull" Arlovski with a single punch in the first round (3:14) of the main event of Affliction: "Day of Reckoning" at Anaheim, California's Honda Center on January 24.

"STRIKEFORCE is a top fight promotion that houses some of the greatest fighters in the world," continued Emelianenko. "I am prepared to fight any of them."

"We are extremely excited to have the opportunity to work with M-1 Global and Fedor," said STRIKEFORCE Founder and CEO Scott Coker, a martial arts fight promoter of over 25 years. "Fedor has been the reigning king of MMA's heavyweight division for quite some time now so being able to work with M-1 and Fedor will substantially increase the level of competition amongst the athletes in this weight class."

djohn14

08-03-2009, 12:25 PM

"STRIKEFORCE is a top fight promotion that houses some of the greatest fighters in the world," continued Emelianenko. "I am prepared to fight any of them."

So thats why hes not with the UFC.

Rip-Hamilton32

08-03-2009, 12:26 PM

what HWs does strikeforce have?

robbie380

08-03-2009, 12:27 PM

Certainly disappointing to see....can't wait to see dana's commentary on this lol

Evan

08-03-2009, 12:28 PM

what HWs does strikeforce have?

Under exclusive contract I think one and thats Brett Rogers.

BlackSwordsMan

08-03-2009, 12:30 PM

fedor is such a shit head
I hope he gets subbed in every fight

Rip-Hamilton32

08-03-2009, 12:31 PM

i believe Fedor is afraid of Brock

dbreiden83080

08-03-2009, 12:38 PM

So M1 is seriously gonna make more money with Strikeforce than with the UFC when Striekforce is bleeding money already and he has nobody to fight there..

dbreiden83080

08-03-2009, 12:38 PM

i believe Fedor is afraid of Brock

He might be, this makes no sense why he took this deal

fedor is such a shit head
I hope he gets subbed in every fight

Shithead for sure..

dbreiden83080

08-03-2009, 12:41 PM

"We are extremely excited to have the opportunity to work with M-1 Global and Fedor," said STRIKEFORCE Founder and CEO Scott Coker, a martial arts fight promoter of over 25 years. "Fedor has been the reigning king of MMA's heavyweight division for quite some time now so being able to work with M-1 and Fedor will substantially increase the level of competition amongst the athletes in this weight class."

Translation, M1 sucks 50% of the money dry made off the Fefor fights and since he has never made anyone money, they'll be out of business maybe in 2 years..

A look at Fedor's stellar competiton..

Emelianenko, a longtime PRIDE champion who's widely regarded as the sport's No. 1 ranked heavyweight, currently owns a 24-fight win streak. He becomes an immediate challenger in Strikeforce's heavyweight division, which currently boasts Alistair Overeem as its champion. However, Overeem hasn't fought since winning the title in November 2007 and was recently scratched from an Aug. 15 title with Fabricio Werdum because of a hand injury. :lol

BlackSwordsMan

08-03-2009, 12:48 PM

evan always changes my titles

dbreiden83080

08-03-2009, 02:02 PM

Good read here..

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=4374451&name=mma

Wait, wait -- what? Fedor signs with Strikeforce

Monday, August 3, 2009

Posted by Jake Rossen/Sherdog.com

According to a press release just detonated by Strikeforce public relations, consensus No. 1 heavyweight Fedor Emelianenko has signed a multi-fight deal with the San Jose-based company: his first fight is scheduled to air in the fall, live on Showtime.

"Strikeforce is a top fight promotion that houses some of the greatest fighters in the world," Emelianenko said in a statement. "I am prepared to fight any of them."

Of course he is. What else would he say?

The release takes care to point out that these "mega-events" will be "co-promoted" by both Strikeforce and M-1 Global, satisfying M-1 chief Vadim Finkelstein's need for taking a percentage stake in the event financials.

The first question: a percentage of what? Emelianenko's first bout will air on the cable network, and it's fairly obvious they have an eye on getting him network television exposure. (Showtime is owned by CBS.) Neither approach requires a NASA calculator to balance the books: Strikeforce has traditionally kept their spending manageable and their profits modest relative to the UFC monolith. Is the plan to "build" the 33-year-old athlete into a pay-per-view attraction, or hope they can manipulate his cult-status stateside profile into big ratings and ad dollars?

The second: does Emelianenko's reputation take a hit among casual fans who heard faint "Lesnar vs. Fedor" noise and now wonder why that's not happening? Strikeforce has a few talented heavyweights who could keep Emelianenko busy for the next two years -- but whether they're perceived as quality competition or consolations is another matter.

Brett Rogers, a Strikeforce regular, is a tough guy. Brock Lesnar, who weighs 50 pounds more than Emelianenko and helped invite at least 1.7 million pay-per-view customers in July, is probably a tougher guy; Alistair Overeem could potentially present more problems for Fedor than anyone -- but he has never beaten a ranked heavyweight fighter beyond a lone bout with Sergei Kharitonov in 2006; Fabricio Werdum is reminiscent of Antonio Nogueira, a fighter whose life span was probably shortened by Emelianenko bruising his brain on three separate occasions.

The UFC currently holds five of the nine ranked heavyweights outside of Emelianenko in the sport; Strikeforce holds two.

Finkelstein got what he wanted. Did fans?

Stringer_Bell

08-03-2009, 02:13 PM

So, basically, Strikeforce is going out of business in 2010?

M-1 won't be able to generate the hype they need, not from the MMA fan base after what happened with the UFC. Brock vs Fedor would have brought more people into the sport, this Strikeforce stuff is only about Fedor's management milking every last cent from him until they let him get whooped back to back in the UFC (in the best case scenario that Dana even lets him sign). M-1 is shit, feel sorry for the companies that got hooked in by Fedor (amazing abilities and crappy marketing).

dbreiden83080

08-03-2009, 03:13 PM

Dana

"Fedor is a f---ing joke," UFC President Dana White responded Monday after learning that Emelianenko had signed with Strikeforce. “He turns down a huge deal and the opportunity to face the best in the world to fight nobodies for no money!"

benefactor

08-03-2009, 03:18 PM

Werdum? Overeem? :lmao

Just come out and say you are scared Fedor.

djohn14

08-03-2009, 03:32 PM

I kind of feel bad for him. He had a chance to really cement his name as the best fighter in the history of the sport, and he blew that. Its his own fault though. So in my openion for the best fighter in the history of the sport...its Anderson Silvas title to lose.

dbreiden83080

08-03-2009, 03:41 PM

So in my openion for the best fighter in the history of the sport...its Anderson Silvas title to lose.

Anderson or GSP..

djohn14

08-03-2009, 03:51 PM

Anderson or GSP..
All in time my friend.

jason1301

08-03-2009, 04:10 PM

Werdum? Overeem? :lmao

Just come out and say you are scared Fedor.

You forgot Brett Rogers and Barnett.

jason1301

08-03-2009, 04:11 PM

jason1301

08-03-2009, 04:11 PM

dbreiden83080

08-03-2009, 04:24 PM

does anyone really care what Dana has to say?

Normally i don't but in this case he is dead on. Fedor has become irrelevant in the sport with this deal. He let his mgt wheel and deal their way right into obscurity..

BlackSwordsMan

08-03-2009, 04:29 PM

does anyone really care what Dana has to say?

no but when's right he's right

djohn14

08-03-2009, 04:31 PM

Not really, he is fighting top competition.

Meh...While Strikeforces competition is better then other promotions, are you telling me Brett Rogers, Wilson Gouveia, and Alistair Overeem are better than Cain Velasquez, Shane Carwin, Randy Couture, Frank Mir, Minotauro Nogueira, Brock Lesnar and a massive group of mid carders and developing talent?

BlackSwordsMan

08-03-2009, 05:33 PM

don't forget the inevitable re-match with cro cop

Viva Las Espuelas

08-03-2009, 05:51 PM

What an idiot. Maybe he can fight Gina. probably his only competition over there. Oh and cyborg.........

LEONARD

08-03-2009, 05:54 PM

Bummer, but not shocking...

I'm interested in Overeem, Rogers, and Werdum...and Barnett in Japan (I'm sure). I'm pissed that we don't get to see Fedor expose Lesnar, but the guys he'll be fighting are in the same group with most of the other guys the UFC has to offer (right now at least). The UFC has some nice up and coming fighters, but it's not like the stash of guys are much better than what SF can throw at him.

Lesnar - would love to see it due to the hype factor, but there is still a lot we don't know about Lesnar
Couture - give me a break...not at this point in his career
Mir - severely over-rated after beating a depleted Nog...Lesnar proved that
Carwin - love Carwin, but he's got some big holes in his game (Gonzaga almost exposed them). He could matchup well with Lesnar though based on having similar strengths and weaknesses.
Cain - great chin and wrestling, but not much else at this point. Kongo torched him standing.
Gonzaga - no heart
Dos Santos - we'll see
Nog - already beat him, no interest
CC - already beat him, no interest (Dos Santos is going to end this UFC run I'm afraid)

I'm sure Fedor will end up in the UFC at some point, if he doesn't retire first. For now, there are still some quality fights out there for him. If he ends up headlining on CBS, it'll be good for his career as far as the masses go anyway.

To say that Fedor is "scared" of Lesnar is insane. To think he's scared of anybody is just crazy. There are too many factors here to wrap it all up like that.

no but when's right he's right

Fedor is a pussy? Really?? :lol Come on now. For any keyboard warrior to talk shit about him like that is weak.

Dana proved exactly why they didn't want to work with him. He's been talking shit about Fedor for years, so the level of respect going in had to be low. The UFC just didn't quite give up enough for Fedor (and his team) to make that leap...

oligarchy

08-03-2009, 08:37 PM

That's B.S., if he didn't want to deal with UFC at all, he wouldn't have entered negotiations with them again. Co-promoting with SF and UFC are two different things, and it's fucking crazy to think they could even try to bargain that with them. He's nuts for having a stupid ass manager and even dumber for not hiring a new one.

If Fedor isn't scared of the competition, I don't know what to say. At this point, Fedor is a joke. Dana proved that his first assessment was right on -- Crazy Russians.

I'm disappointed Lesnar didn't get to expose Fedor. I guess fighting rejects in Werdum and Overeem are high points for the nuthuggers, or the ultra talented Brett Rogers.

BlackSwordsMan

08-03-2009, 08:44 PM

someone who doesn't want to fight top competition is a pussy

BlackSwordsMan

08-03-2009, 08:45 PM

maybe strikeforce can sign hong man choi or matt lindland or some other can to fight fedor to defend his wamma belt

jason1301

08-03-2009, 10:51 PM

Meh...While Strikeforces competition is better then other promotions, are you telling me Brett Rogers, Wilson Gouveia, and Alistair Overeem are better than Cain Velasquez, Shane Carwin, Randy Couture, Frank Mir, Minotauro Nogueira, Brock Lesnar and a massive group of mid carders and developing talent?

NO! Are you saying that Strikeforce doesn't have any top10 HWs?!! Because that's what's all about; fighting good competition. He can fight brock down the road you never know. Plus now he can fight Barnett in Japan, steroids or not, Josh is much better than Brock right now.... key word right now, don't jump on me about that. So I don't see how fedor is avoiding top competition?!

jason1301

08-03-2009, 10:56 PM

no but when's right he's right

I 'll give you that, this time Dana is wrong big time. Go and read his first interview as president of the UFC, all he talked was how he wanted to co-promote with other orgs, and how that's the only way MMA will grow and become the best sport in the world. True, when he is right, he is right!

Co-promotion is the way to go.

djohn14

08-03-2009, 10:56 PM

NO! Are you saying that Strikeforce doesn't have any top10 HWs?!! Because that's what's all about; fighting good competition. He can fight brock down the road you never know. Plus now he can fight Barnett in Japan, steroids or not, Josh is much better than Brock right now.... key word right now, don't jump on me about that. So I don't see how fedor is avoiding top competition?!

I didnt jump on you, I asked you a question which you answered and I dont agree with, but nobody ever agrees on forums so thats just part of it.

jason1301

08-03-2009, 11:00 PM

Normally i don't but in this case he is dead on. Fedor has become irrelevant in the sport with this deal. He let his mgt wheel and deal their way right into obscurity..

How is Fedor irrelevant? He can still fight Barnett in Japan, and Overeem and Brett Rogers, and even Ivanov; if that Bulgarian sambo fighter finds a way to beat Aleks --very unlikely to happen, I know but this MMA the impossible happens very often.

Tell me; who deserves to fight Fedor more than Barnett?

jason1301

08-03-2009, 11:01 PM

I didnt jump on you, I asked you a question which you answered and I dont agree with, but nobody ever agrees on forums so thats just part of it.

ok, but tell me this; Are there any top10 HWs in strikeforce? If yes, how many?

polandprzem

08-04-2009, 02:19 AM

polandprzem

08-04-2009, 06:16 AM

http://cyber-sport.us/zalaczniki/howscottcokersignsfedorbp_184.gif

djohn14

08-04-2009, 07:25 AM

ok, but tell me this; Are there any top10 HWs in strikeforce? If yes, how many?

Well, obviously Fedor...but after that....Maybe Overeem, but thats it IMO.

robbie380

08-04-2009, 07:39 AM

Well, obviously Fedor...but after that....Maybe Overeem, but thats it IMO.

you don't think mousasi could fight fedor? i think he is fedor's only competition in strikeforce even though he is small for him.

desflood

08-04-2009, 09:41 AM

fedor is such a shit head
http://i32.tinypic.com/qwxfub.jpg

IX_Equilibrium

08-04-2009, 11:16 AM

I'm interested in Overeem, Rogers, and Werdum...The UFC has some nice up and coming fighters, but it's not like the stash of guys are much better than what SF can throw at him.

Are you kidding??

Overeem? Yeah, look who he has beaten in the past 3 years: Gary Goodrich, Mark Hunt, Lee Tae-Hyun, and Paul Buentello. :wow

Werdum? An unknown (at the time) Dos Santos fighting in the UFC uppercutted Werdum's chin into his forehead.

Brett Rogers? - give me a break.

If you think these three will provide the level of competition in Strikeforce that the nine fighters you listed in the UFC would, you're crazy. You know this, and Fedor sure as hell knows this.

LEONARD

08-04-2009, 11:47 AM

If Fedor isn't scared of the competition, I don't know what to say. At this point, Fedor is a joke. Dana proved that his first assessment was right on -- Crazy Russians.

I'm disappointed Lesnar didn't get to expose Fedor. I guess fighting rejects in Werdum and Overeem are high points for the nuthuggers, or the ultra talented Brett Rogers.

People thought Tim's size would "expose" Fedor...and Arlovski's crisp boxing...now it's Lesnar's size/wrestling until that fight happens. It'll always be somebody until he finally loses someday...that's just the way it is.

Dana has also proven that he's a loud-mouth crybaby that rips on you one minute, then praises you (and throws a boat load of money at you), then goes back to ripping on you. I don't blame anybody for not wanting to work for him.

Well, obviously Fedor...but after that....Maybe Overeem, but thats it IMO.

4, although 3 of them are 8-10....and Werdum at 14. So 5/14...UFC has 7/14, but they're more weighted towards the top of the top 10 instead of the bottom.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/rankings/heavyweight/detail/730361

BE combines all the rankings of the top MMA sites...the best overall rankings out there IMO. Rankings are what they are...if you're going to talk "top 10" this and that, you have to pick a ranking system to use...

you don't think mousasi could fight fedor? i think he is fedor's only competition in strikeforce even though he is small for him.

Mousasi isn't really smaller than Fedor...a little taller and a little lighter. He trained with him for Affliction and said he felt bigger than Fedor. Fedor just isn't that big...

djohn14

08-04-2009, 11:51 AM

4, although 3 of them are 8-10....and Werdum at 14. So 5/14...UFC has 7/14, but they're more weighted towards the top of the top 10 instead of the bottom.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/rankings/heavyweight/detail/730361

BE combines all the rankings of the top MMA sites...the best overall rankings out there IMO. Rankings are what they are...if you're going to talk "top 10" this and that, you have to pick a ranking system to use...

Good find...but that has Arlovski (is he still under contract with Strikeforce?) who Fedor has already demolished and fails at most things, and Brett Rogers who I like but feel Shane Carwin would beat him right now.

djohn14

08-04-2009, 11:54 AM

you don't think mousasi could fight fedor? i think he is fedor's only competition in strikeforce even though he is small for him.

Eh wasnt really thinking about Mousasi. Hes one of my favorite fighters and Id like to see him in the UFC at 205...or anywhere really. Honestly I think he'd give Fedor a better run than Rogers.

LEONARD

08-04-2009, 11:54 AM

Are you kidding??

Overeem? Yeah, look who he has beaten in the past 3 years: Gary Goodrich, Mark Hunt, Lee Tae-Hyun, and Paul Buentello. :wow

Werdum? An unknown (at the time) Dos Santos fighting in the UFC uppercutted Werdum's chin into his forehead.

Brett Rogers? - give me a break.

If you think these three will provide the level of competition in Strikeforce that the nine fighters you listed in the UFC would, you're crazy. You know this, and Fedor sure as hell knows this.

I didn't say they would provide the same level as the 9 guys I listed. I said they're in the same league, especially since we don't know that much about some of the up and coming guys in the UFC that I listed. Just because Cain is getting hyped by everybody and Rogers isn't doesn't mean Rogers isn't in his same class at this point. This could be completely different a year from now one this class of young/new guys gets some more fights. Have to wait and see.

Overeem appears to have re-invented himself since he quit cutting insane amounts of weight to get to 205 (hence, his severe gassing issues at that weight). If you don't think he's a legit threat, then there is nothing I can say to change your mind. You're dismissing him like Dana did calling them "nobodies"...but Sylvia and Arlovski are "cans" so it would make sense I suppose.

Werdum losing to an unknown doesn't mean he sucks. Anybody can lose like he lost in that fight. Shit happens. He's still a solid HW and not an easy fight for anybody.

How do you know Brett Rogers isn't any good? We know about as much about him as Dos Santos, Carwin, or Cain at this point...

oligarchy

08-04-2009, 12:04 PM

LEONARD

08-04-2009, 12:21 PM

lol.. i love the changing arguments.

Fedor can go challenge the "best" in SF.

..and why does someone making an argument about a ranking system pull out an arbitrary number of "Top XX" to make a point? Either use the list and count the fighters or not.

The list has 24 fighters: UFC has 13 of them. SF has 6. That includes Mousasi, who shouldn't even be ranked on that list until he beats someone on that list. So, I'd say 5.

What argument changed? Who said he could fight the best in SF??

Because nobody cares about Fedor fighting anybody outside the top 15 do they?? Who cares what the UFC has from 15-25. We're talking about top guys...

LEONARD

08-04-2009, 12:21 PM

From Jake Rossen...

Of significantly less consequence is the report that Fedor Emelianenko has signed a three-fight deal with Strikeforce that’s likely to begin in the fall. The common reaction from both fans and UFC honchos has been the idea that Emelianenko simply isn’t interested in testing himself against top competition.

For the sake of argument: while the UFC holds a majority share of quality heavyweights, the idea that Emelianenko’s legacy will be tainted by never making eye contact with them is a stretch.

Consider:

Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira: A non-entity where Emelianenko is concerned. He loses a fourth fight only if he fractures both his hands against Nogueira’s skull.

Randy Couture: Legendary, but well into middle age.

Frank Mir: Smashed to pieces by Brock Lesnar, and traditionally weakest where Emelianenko is strongest: dropping nuclear bombs on grounded opponents.

Ben Rothwell, Junior dos Santos, Mirko “Cro Cop” Filipovic, Cheick Kongo: I could think of better ways to spend a Saturday.

Putting aside inter-divisional fights with Anderson Silva or Lyoto Machida -- which would be lots of fun for spectators -- the UFC really has three upper-tier heavyweights with skills that could potentially give Emelianenko a very hard time: Brock Lesnar, Shane Carwin and Cain Velasquez. Three.

Strikeforce can match the ante with Alistair Overeem, Brett Rogers and some kind of wild card entrant: Bobby Lashley, Blagoi Ivanov, perhaps even Josh Barnett.

The proposition that Strikeforce employs air conditioning repairmen and the UFC enlists only Olympic athletes is pushing the envelope; I’d almost sooner see Emelianenko go on a free-agent tear for a year or two before settling in with the UFC, considering that their asphyxiating contracts invite retirement at their conclusions.

Emelianenko will be just fine. So will his career. And so will his fans

oligarchy

08-04-2009, 12:42 PM

Sweet. More Fedor love.

Stupid ass article. Because that's all that UFC has for fighters, and it's not possible that they will get Lashley or Ivanov, etc.

and I could think of a better way to spend a saturday than watch him fight Overeem, or Rogers. They are just as irrelevant as Rothwell, dos Santos or Kongo.

Fedor nuthugger will always be nuthuggers and swing on them and sing his praises and spin the SF signing as something positive. Awesome!

Cyborg vs Fedor FTW!!!

LEONARD

08-04-2009, 12:49 PM

LOL...wow...

and Fedor haters will always hate unless he's in the UFC...and even then, they'd still continue to find something to complain about...

oligarchy

08-04-2009, 12:52 PM

dbreiden83080

08-04-2009, 01:12 PM

It's like comparing CBA to the NBA or International to the NBA. Sure there may be some talent there, but it's NOT the same. He's just making stupid demands so he doesn't look like "bad" because he doesn't want to sign.

:toast

LEONARD

08-04-2009, 01:14 PM

wow?

How does that article make sense? If you think it's simply hating, you are mentally retarded. If you believe SF has the same competition as UFC, you are again, mentally retarded. He doesn't have to be in the UFC, but until he is, he isn't relevant.

It's like comparing CBA to the NBA or International to the NBA. Sure there may be some talent there, but it's NOT the same. He's just making stupid demands so he doesn't look like "bad" because he doesn't want to sign. Then he takes less money to fight lesser competition.

Yes...Wow, as in you've mentioned Fedor vs Cyborg in 2 threads already. Talk about minimizing the SF HW division...you're out-doing Dana who just said they're "nobodies"...

I haven't said anywhere that SF has the "same competition" as the UFC. They clearly have less high level fighters, but they have enough guys for a 1 year contract and 3 fights. That's my point...

How do you know he took less money? How much will he make from the M-1 co-promotion? I don't think anybody knows do they? How much of that "$30M over 6 fights" was guaranteed? There is no way to know what he would've made in the UFC (depends how his fights went, PPV sales, etc) and there is no way to know how much he'll make from SF...

Fedor has never been relevant because he's never been in the UFC...thanks, good to know...

oligarchy

08-04-2009, 01:23 PM

Yes...Wow, as in you've mentioned Fedor vs Cyborg in 2 threads already. Talk about minimizing the SF HW division...you're out-doing Dana who just said they're "nobodies"...

I haven't said anywhere that SF has the "same competition" as the UFC. They clearly have less high level fighters, but they have enough guys for a 1 year contract and 3 fights. That's my point...

How do you know he took less money? How much will he make from the M-1 co-promotion? I don't think anybody knows do they? How much of that "$30M over 6 fights" was guaranteed? There is no way to know what he would've made in the UFC (depends how his fights went, PPV sales, etc) and there is no way to know how much he'll make from SF...

Fedor has never been relevant because he's never been in the UFC...thanks, good to know...

Yes. Fedor has always been relevant. As his pay-per-view sales and top-flight competition has pointed too. Excellent use of sarcasm to point to stupidity. You can't be the best when people don't know how you are and you aren't playing on the biggest stage. Whether you like it or not, it's how things work. Sorry.

LOL. Ok.. I believe that SF is going to make him more money with the co-promotion. They share profits and LOSSES. His first show on Showtime should pull in millions with all that.. oh, or the next to 2 of this three fight deal that will net 200,000 pay-per-view buys will also make him a rich man and not lose them money!

You should really go into business, and choose Fedor as the face of your company. You should do well.. LOL

LEONARD

08-04-2009, 01:27 PM

Done

oligarchy

08-04-2009, 01:29 PM

owned.

jason1301

08-04-2009, 02:14 PM

It is frickin simple

UFC would give Fedor the toughest test there was, and he said no. he would earn more money but he said no.

Fedor lives in a past where still UFC have weak HW division and Americans are Americans. In Strikeforce really Leonard come on.

And I woul like to see Fedor expose a 50 pound heavier Brock with wrestling skills in a cage.
Really he had some problems holding of Hunto on the ground and it was in the ring.

At this point Barnett is STILL the toughest test for Fedor, plus UFC's offered him LESS money than he was making with Affliction.

Strikeforce is willing to co-promote, he gets to keep the rights to his own footage and the international rights of the events he fights in.

oligarchy

08-04-2009, 02:41 PM

At this point Barnett is STILL the toughest test for Fedor, plus UFC's offered him LESS money than he was making with Affliction.

Strikeforce is willing to co-promote, he gets to keep the rights to his own footage and the international rights of the events he fights in.

STILL? Josh Barnett is as much of a test as Cro Cop is. Cro and Nog have owned Barnett.

UFC offered LESS money than he was making with Affliction? Where did this info come from?

polandprzem

08-04-2009, 02:53 PM

How much did Fedor earned in Affliction ? Last card?

Leonard said one worthy thing, 3 fights with the best in SF unless some injury will happen... it's still good. many guys says that he will beat them all and then back to UFC conversations as there will be no talent left outside UFC unless haha barnett vs Fedor on a Dream card? Who frickin knows?
It is not the same as Lesnar vs Fedor - that would broke the record and I assume UFC would so much promote this event it would go close to 2.5 mln ppv buys!

UFC and Fedor could not happen -in 2 years from now Fedor won't be that good and I don't know if UFC will need him and if UFC would like to spend so much money on him 2 years from now.
Fedor can then retire as he said he want to slow down a bit now that he is older.
For another reason UFC and Fedor could not happen - co-promotion bullshit. many people says it's all on vadim, what a bad guy. But Fedor got his shares in M-1 so it is really not that simple to quit on that and be his own menager. And that Garry Milen who is voce-president of M-1 or something ... there is just too many bad people around.

Fedor decided not to fight the greatest challange and many fans are blaming him for that. MMA world would be excited as hell. Unfortunately Emelianenko don't care about fans as much and he went for :greedy

As for Dana - that's his style, and I think many people do not understand it.

IX_Equilibrium

08-04-2009, 04:38 PM

From Jake Rossen...

Strikeforce can match the ante with Alistair Overeem, Brett Rogers and some kind of wild card entrant: Bobby Lashley, Blagoi Ivanov, perhaps even Josh Barnett.

:rollin

angelbelow

08-04-2009, 06:01 PM

sucks to hear.

jason1301

08-04-2009, 06:58 PM

STILL? Josh Barnett is as much of a test as Cro Cop is. Cro and Nog have owned Barnett.

UFC offered LESS money than he was making with Affliction? Where did this info come from?

Barnett BEAT Nog and Randy when it meant something, I don't think he was owned by either Nog or Crocop.

Brock to Mir, not to a prime Nog or Mirko.

Fedor's manager said that Fedor's base contract was less than what he was making with Affliction, and Dana never denied it.

djohn14

08-04-2009, 07:04 PM

LEONARD

08-04-2009, 07:16 PM

Cro and Nog have owned Barnett.

I have to take exception with this...

Barnett split 2 close wars with Nog...

and the Crocop fight ended on an eye poke, and it was the 2nd fight of the night for both of them...with Crocop having the easier draw with Wandy (5 min fight) while Barnett beat Nog in a tough decision before facing Crocop. That's a tough back to back when both were top 5 HW's.

Saying that Nog and Crocop "owned" Barnett is extremely flawed and unfair to Barnett IMO...

dbreiden83080

08-04-2009, 08:19 PM

Fedor's manager said that Fedor's base contract was less than what he was making with Affliction, and Dana never denied it.

The Guaranteed money might have been less and why should it be more? Fedor didn't make Affliction 3 cents when he fought for them. The Arlovski fight had a lousy 100,000 PPV buys.. His pay was going to be through the roof with the UFC marketing machine behind him, that's the point behind the UFC deal..

oligarchy

08-04-2009, 08:53 PM

Barnett BEAT Nog and Randy when it meant something, I don't think he was owned by either Nog or Crocop.

Brock to Mir, not to a prime Nog or Mirko.

Fedor's manager said that Fedor's base contract was less than what he was making with Affliction, and Dana never denied it.

He beat Randy and then tested positive for steroids.. sweet. What? Steroids? Nahh... it was that protein shake I drank.

He's lost 3 times to CroCop, that is definite ownage. So, he won a SPLIT decision against Nog, then lost three months later to him, maybe not ownage -- oh well.

Fedor, if you want to think about it, lost part of his money when he fought with Affliction. It was co-branded with M-1, meaning they split costs and loses. Because Fedor has a stake and each event he was in lost money, he lost money. So, he didn't even make as much as what was reported. The fact is, even if Affliction's base is higher, you damn well know his PPV percentages will be MUCH higher than it was with Affliction. If Couture, Liddell and Ortiz make between 250k to 500k base and clear more than a million (or 2/3 depending on which event we are talking about), and Fedor was offered even HIGHER percentages, it's a no brainer. He just wasn't comfortable with most of his money coming from PPV sales.. he knows he hasn't sold shit with three other companies, so I get his fear.

Evan

08-04-2009, 08:55 PM

vadim is worse than Dana ever dreamed of being.

end of story

dbreiden83080

08-04-2009, 08:55 PM

If Couture, Liddell and Ortiz make between 250k to 500k base and clear more than a million (or 2/3 depending on which event we are talking about), and Fedor was offered even HIGHER percentages, it's a no brainer. He just wasn't comfortable with most of his money coming from PPV sales.. he knows he hasn't sold shit with three other companies, so I get his fear.

Pretty much what i said only i was more polite about it.. :lol

oligarchy

08-04-2009, 08:56 PM

I have to take exception with this...

Barnett split 2 close wars with Nog...

and the Crocop fight ended on an eye poke, and it was the 2nd fight of the night for both of them...with Crocop having the easier draw with Wandy (5 min fight) while Barnett beat Nog in a tough decision before facing Crocop. That's a tough back to back when both were top 5 HW's.

Saying that Nog and Crocop "owned" Barnett is extremely flawed and unfair to Barnett IMO...

Why do you reply to anything.. go find a Fedor forum. Because Barnett was more tired and got KO'd, it isn't CroCop owning him -- gotcha. ..and SF has better fighters and he'll surely make more money in SF.

Check - Check - Check. Mr. Dio was sure right about you.

oligarchy

08-04-2009, 09:01 PM

Here's Barnett NOT getting owned.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x86bdi_mirko-cro-cop-flipovic-vs-josh-barn_sport

jason1301

08-04-2009, 11:16 PM

He beat Randy and then tested positive for steroids.. sweet. What? Steroids? Nahh... it was that protein shake I drank.

He's lost 3 times to CroCop, that is definite ownage. So, he won a SPLIT decision against Nog, then lost three months later to him, maybe not ownage -- oh well.

Fedor, if you want to think about it, lost part of his money when he fought with Affliction. It was co-branded with M-1, meaning they split costs and loses. Because Fedor has a stake and each event he was in lost money, he lost money. So, he didn't even make as much as what was reported. The fact is, even if Affliction's base is higher, you damn well know his PPV percentages will be MUCH higher than it was with Affliction. If Couture, Liddell and Ortiz make between 250k to 500k base and clear more than a million (or 2/3 depending on which event we are talking about), and Fedor was offered even HIGHER percentages, it's a no brainer. He just wasn't comfortable with most of his money coming from PPV sales.. he knows he hasn't sold shit with three other companies, so I get his fear.

Why you talk about the Nog and Mirko of 2005-2006, I never said Barnett is better than any these. He would KILL both of them today!!!

Fedor has invested in M-1, he is part owner. He sees M-1 as a security blanket, something that can make money from when his fighting career is over or if something happens to him like a freak injury. He also tries to promote MMA and he thinks that co-promoting like Boxing does is the future of the sport. Also he does like to fight in Japan on NYE, its tradition that can keep alive now that he joined strikeforce.

polandprzem

08-04-2009, 11:37 PM

Why you talk about the Nog and Mirko of 2005-2006, I never said Barnett is better than any these. He would KILL both of them today!!!

Fedor has invested in M-1, he is part owner. He sees M-1 as a security blanket, something that can make money from when his fighting career is over or if something happens to him like a freak injury. He also tries to promote MMA and he thinks that co-promoting like Boxing does is the future of the sport. Also he does like to fight in Japan on NYE, its tradition that can keep alive now that he joined strikeforce.
Was he fighting in japan on NYE last year?

jason1301

08-04-2009, 11:57 PM

Was he fighting in japan on NYE last year?

Can he fight this year???

Duuuuh!

Evan

08-05-2009, 07:07 AM

LEONARD

08-05-2009, 08:29 AM

He's lost 3 times to CroCop, that is definite ownage. So, he won a SPLIT decision against Nog, then lost three months later to him, maybe not ownage -- oh well.

lol...you're including the fight where his shoulder popped out a minute into the fight as part of CC's "ownage" of Barnett? Interesting...

Why do you reply to anything.. go find a Fedor forum. Because Barnett was more tired and got KO'd, it isn't CroCop owning him -- gotcha. ..and SF has better fighters and he'll surely make more money in SF.

Check - Check - Check. Mr. Dio was sure right about you.

I think my points above were valid...

The fact that it was a 2 fight night had an impact...and CC had the easier night. And the fight ended with an eye poke (yes, CC was winning the fight prior to that). But to dismiss it as "ownage" without looking at the circumstances is short-sighted...

I'm searching but can't find where I said that SF has better fighters and Fedor will make more money...can't you point me in that direction please?

You should probably go read up on some of Dio's comments around here before you side with him. What was he right about exactly??

oligarchy

08-05-2009, 08:44 AM

I think the fat is getting to your brain, or maybe the sun beating down on your bald head.

Do you read the shit you write? When you list the UFC heavyweight dvision, and say that none of them are relevant but Lesnar and the rest aren't even better than SF's, then what does that say to you?

And, when I say UFC offered a better contract, you cry like a little girl that we can't possibly know that. So, you didn't DIRECTLY that SF was more, but that would be called inference. Do you know what that means?

I'm not calling you stupid, but stupid people have Fedor for avatars. I'm not calling you fat, but fat people have an L in their name. See what I did there?

So don't come back and post and tell me I called you fat and stupid.. because I'm search but can't where I said that. Fucking idiot.

LEONARD

08-05-2009, 09:40 AM

I think the fat is getting to your brain, or maybe the sun beating down on your bald head.

Well I am a HUGE fatass and I shave my head, so it's hard to argue with your points...well done. :lol

Do you read the shit you write? When you list the UFC heavyweight dvision, and say that none of them are relevant but Lesnar and the rest aren't even better than SF's, then what does that say to you?

Maybe you're Dio because you're now inventing your own shit like he does. I stated that the 3 guys Fedor would fight in SF are in the same tier as the UFC guys, less Lesnar. All I'm saying is it's similar competition but we lose the Lesnar fight that we all want right now. And it's just for a year...then we'll see what happens after that. I certainly didn't say the UFC guys weren't "relevant"...

And, when I say UFC offered a better contract, you cry like a little girl that we can't possibly know that. So, you didn't DIRECTLY that SF was more, but that would be called inference. Do you know what that means?what I did there?

Cry like a girl? Wut??? All I'm saying is we don't know the TRUE details or either contract, or what would've happened and how much Fedor would've made in the UFC. We know what the UFC says the offer was and we know what M-1 says the offer was. The truth is probably somewhere in between. And we don't know the full details of the SF offer. So it's pointless to continue pointing to the money aspect...

I'm not calling you stupid, but stupid people have Fedor for avatars. I'm not calling you fat, but fat people have an L in their name. See what I did there? So don't come back and post and tell me I called you fat and stupid.. because I'm search but can't where I said that. Fucking idiot.

I'm going on a diet...pronto! I can't take it anymore...

PS...my name doesn't start with L, or have an L in it.

dbreiden83080

08-05-2009, 09:59 AM

This is good for the forum...everybody is all saying stuff and stuff not to mention other stuff. I really had a rational thought when I started this and I lost it after the word "forum". I could delete it, however I've came this far.

Awesome.. :toast

I'm not calling you stupid, but stupid people have Fedor for avatars. I'm not calling you fat, but fat people have an L in their name. See what I did there?

So don't come back and post and tell me I called you fat and stupid.. because I'm search but can't where I said that. Fucking idiot.

Remind me never to get on oligarchy's bad side.. :lol

LEONARD

08-05-2009, 10:05 AM

Remind me never to get on oligarchy's bad side.. :lol

No kidding...

I'm starting on a diet today (or possibly fasting for a week?)...growing my hair out...and starting therapy sessions due to his vicious lashing... :(

oligarchy

08-05-2009, 10:07 AM

You know what would be really funny? If we go into the NBA forum and bump all of SpursDynasty's post where he is wrong. That would be really really funny. Do it. Do it.

Ok LEONARD. You should go back and edit your posts to "clarify" what you really mean when you say "Beat him twice or he's too old, etc." Your list of fighters who wouldn't be good fights and how

Also, if you believe there's a possibility that StrikeForce threw down that much money to Fedor, you have to be stupid. Fedor will sell no fucking PPVs, and the shows will make little to no money. SF operates at a break even point. Now, if he were in the UFC, he'd basically make 3 million if the PPV were to do horrible. Think McFly Think.

And don't act like you aren't fat because you don't weigh 350. When you BMI is greater than 30, you're fucking overweight, stupid fuck.

Lesnar - would love to see it due to the hype factor, but there is still a lot we don't know about Lesnar
Couture - give me a break...not at this point in his career
Mir - severely over-rated after beating a depleted Nog...Lesnar proved that
Carwin - love Carwin, but he's got some big holes in his game (Gonzaga almost exposed them). He could matchup well with Lesnar though based on having similar strengths and weaknesses.
Cain - great chin and wrestling, but not much else at this point. Kongo torched him standing.
Gonzaga - no heart
Dos Santos - we'll see
Nog - already beat him, no interest
CC - already beat him, no interest (Dos Santos is going to end this UFC run I'm afraid)

See.. you are comparing 3 SF guys to those people that are on an "even" tier, and you are dismissing them all. I don't see you dismissing the SF guys.. so you are saying they are better. Do you understand this point? You may have "clarified" your point later, but anyone can see the point you were trying to make here. Lesnar is the only person of interest in the UFC, the rest aren't up to snuff, YET the fucking SF guys of Rogers who hasn't fought anyone, but beat AA, Werdum who was dropped after losing to AA, and Overeem who you think is a demi-god apparently, because he one tough mofo who's already lost to Werdum and a host of other lower ranked fighters. GTFO.

Done. You should finish up here. Go do some laps, some crunches.

LEONARD

08-05-2009, 10:35 AM

Ok LEONARD. You should go back and edit your posts to "clarify" what you really mean when you say "Beat him twice or he's too old, etc." Your list of fighters who wouldn't be good fights and how

I listed what I felt were their weaknesses. Fedor would beat all those guys just like I expect him to beat the SF guys.

Also, if you believe there's a possibility that StrikeForce threw down that much money to Fedor, you have to be stupid. Fedor will sell no fucking PPVs, and the shows will make little to no money. SF operates at a break even point. Now, if he were in the UFC, he'd basically make 3 million if the PPV were to do horrible. Think McFly Think.

McFly…really?

What happens when SF ends up on CBS? How does the money work out then? What if the Super Bowl is a lead-in to a card with Fedor as the main event?? How would that do? Would that be better for Fedor’s career even if the money was less?

And don't act like you aren't fat because you don't weigh 350. When you BMI is greater than 30, you're fucking overweight, stupid fuck.

Ah yes…BMI. The true measure of fitness and fatness. BMI does indicate overweight, but has nothing to do with being fat. Sean Sherk is an overweight (and fat?) fuck I guess.

BTW, mine is 28.5, not that I give a damn. 6’ 210 lbs. I don’t know my body fat % exactly but it’s probably around 13-15%. Odd that you think I’m a fatass for some reason…

Maybe you’re a fatass?? Hmmmmmmmmm….

See.. you are comparing 3 SF guys to those people that are on an "even" tier, and you are dismissing them all. I don't see you dismissing the SF guys.. so you are saying they are better. Do you understand this point? You may have "clarified" your point later, but anyone can see the point you were trying to make here. Lesnar is the only person of interest in the UFC, the rest aren't up to snuff, YET the fucking SF guys of Rogers who hasn't fought anyone, but beat AA, Werdum who was dropped after losing to AA, and Overeem who you think is a demi-god apparently, because he one tough mofo who's already lost to Werdum and a host of other lower ranked fighters. GTFO.

I do not expect Fedor to lose to the SF guys, just like I don’t expect him to lose to the UFC guys. Lesnar is the big threat there, and I’ve still got Fedor in that fight due to his combination of speed/power/accuracy standing and his armbars off his back.

You should finish up here. Go do some laps, some crunches.

Kinda sore today…did heavy abs yesterday. Thanks for the advice though.

oligarchy

08-05-2009, 10:54 AM

What happens when SF ends up on CBS? How does the money work out then? What if the Super Bowl is a lead-in to a card with Fedor as the main event?? How would that do? Would that be better for Fedor’s career even if the money was less?

I'm sure a card or two will be on CBS. Maybe not before Fedors contract expires.. but of course, with all that bank he's making above the UFC contract, he'll just resign anyway. You know.. he doesn't want to deal with Dana and all.

LOL. That's going to happen -- superbowl -- just like your boy Kyle Maynard isn't a joke. haha. You crack me up. Seriously.

LEONARD

08-05-2009, 11:05 AM

I'm sure a card or two will be on CBS. Maybe not before Fedors contract expires.. but of course, with all that bank he's making above the UFC contract, he'll just resign anyway. You know.. he doesn't want to deal with Dana and all.

LOL. That's going to happen -- superbowl -- just like your boy Kyle Maynard isn't a joke. haha. You crack me up. Seriously.

A total fatass...I knew it!!!

So uhh...there you go again with the money thing. Who has said SF will pay more? I know I haven't. I've stated multiple times that nobody knows for sure about the pay, so why continue bringing it up?

I'll make note that you laughed about the Super Bowl lead-in...I'm not saying it's going to happen, but it's being discussed.

and Kyle Maynard? WTF dude??? :lmao

polandprzem

08-05-2009, 11:13 AM

All you fatasses calm down !

:D

j/k

There is no question that UFC gave the best contract possible on the mma market. Everybody knows it. Also UFC has better competition then anybody else. Also this is the best timing Fedor to fight Brock.

We as a fans did not got what we wanted. Live is tough, it is highly probable that we don't get what we want in life...

And seems like Fedor will end up his career with an IF mark all over him.

oligarchy

08-05-2009, 11:18 AM

A total fatass...I knew it!!!

So uhh...there you go again with the money thing. Who has said SF will pay more? I know I haven't. I've stated multiple times that nobody knows for sure about the pay, so why continue bringing it up?

I'll make note that you laughed about the Super Bowl lead-in...I'm not saying it's going to happen, but it's being discussed.

and Kyle Maynard? WTF dude??? :lmao

My body fat is 10% and my BMI is 24. I'm 6'3, 195. Thanks for playing though!

Dude.. You defended him when everyone was bashing Maynard, the dumb amputee that tried MMA, just like you are defending Fedor signing with Strikforce. Let me guess, that's not what you meant with all those posts either and will clarify what you meant post haste. It's like someone buying a projector thinking they are going to get a good picture from it.

LEONARD

08-05-2009, 11:51 AM

My body fat is 10% and my BMI is 24. I'm 6'3, 195. Thanks for playing though!

Dude.. You defended him when everyone was bashing Maynard, the dumb amputee that tried MMA, just like you are defending Fedor signing with Strikforce. Let me guess, that's not what you meant with all those posts either and will clarify what you meant post haste. It's like someone buying a projector thinking they are going to get a good picture from it.

You're rollin' today...

Well I guess you showed me on the BMI thing. I think you're lying anyway. You're a fatass...

Bottom line: for some reason you made this personal and called me a fatass, which is far from true. My BMI is less than 30 (your magic #)...so, uh...thanks for playin!! Owned.

You're making it sound like I picked Maynard as the next big thing. My whole point with Maynard was let him fight if he wants to fight. He'd been training for it so why not. He has that right. You dismissed him as an "idiot," which he certainly isn't based on his accomplishments in life. He's an inspirational kid, IMO. He got his fight, he lost, now he can move on to other things.

You're right...an HD projector with an HD signal sucks. It's just terrible. It especially sucks at MMA parties and for watching sports in general, which is what I use it for. Everybody complains about it. What was I thinking when I added it to the room while keeping my other TV? I clearly should've consulted with you first.

What else you gonna rip on today?

Evan

08-05-2009, 12:31 PM

LEONARD

08-05-2009, 12:35 PM

What's up Evan?

dbreiden83080

08-05-2009, 12:36 PM

You're rollin' today...

Well I guess you showed me on the BMI thing. I think you're lying anyway. You're a fatass...

Bottom line: for some reason you made this personal and called me a fatass, which is far from true. My BMI is less than 30 (your magic #)...so, uh...thanks for playin!! Owned.

My body fat is 10% and my BMI is 24. I'm 6'3, 195. Thanks for playing though!

Dude.. You defended him when everyone was bashing Maynard, the dumb amputee that tried MMA, just like you are defending Fedor signing with Strikforce. Let me guess, that's not what you meant with all those posts either and will clarify what you meant post haste. It's like someone buying a projector thinking they are going to get a good picture from it.

I know how you guys can settle this. Maybe this clip will help..

XyhhFzE5O5U

Evan

08-05-2009, 12:38 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/TheDropper/DancingMokeycom.gif?t=1249079668

oligarchy

08-05-2009, 12:40 PM

Stupid Fatty.. What don't you get? Maynard is a fucking amputee and has no place in MMA. HE HAS NUBS FOR ARMS AND LEGS. Re-read that last sentence. Read it a few times. If you don't get why he shouldn't even think about MMA, I'm sorry. Yet, you think he isn't a dumbass. Great. You two share something.

You're right...an HD projector with an HD signal sucks. It's just terrible. It especially sucks at MMA parties and for watching sports in general, which is what I use it for. Everybody complains about it. What was I thinking when I added it to the room while keeping my other TV? I clearly should've consulted with you first.

Yes. Clearly HD Projectors have great image and color quality, especially those HD ones! The BenQ rivals the picture quality of my plasma :rolleyes
I mean of course you know that projectors only look good in light controlled rooms, so of course you know that in a normal room with light colored walls and windows that it looks like shit. Next time I feel like wasting a few thousand dollars on subpar image quality for the sheer 'cool' factor, I'll consult you.

LEONARD

08-05-2009, 01:22 PM

Stupid Fatty.. What don't you get? Maynard is a fucking amputee and has no place in MMA. HE HAS NUBS FOR ARMS AND LEGS. Re-read that last sentence. Read it a few times. If you don't get why he shouldn't even think about MMA, I'm sorry. Yet, you think he isn't a dumbass. Great. You two share something.

Yes. Clearly HD Projectors have great image and color quality, especially those HD ones! The BenQ rivals the picture quality of my plasma :rolleyes
I mean of course you know that projectors only look good in light controlled rooms, so of course you know that in a normal room with light colored walls and windows that it looks like shit. Next time I feel like wasting a few thousand dollars on subpar image quality for the sheer 'cool' factor, I'll consult you.

"Stupid fatty" he says...awesome...

Maynard is a smart guy. He's probably accomplished more in his life than most people on this forum...

Few thousand? I have $650 in my projector, screen, and ceiling mount. I assure you, the image quality is just fine in my living room (which does not have white walls) for watching sports and movies. I've had zero complaints. Did I say it's 42" plasma quality? Nope...sure as hell didn't. Once again, you’re saying it doesn’t have the quality of a smaller tv, which of course is true…but I never said it did…so???

oligarchy

08-05-2009, 01:39 PM

You love to change your arguments every second it's awesome. "It's HD rah rah."

"Did I say it's XXX"

Seriously.. good stuff. You make me giggle like a school girl.

Kyle Maynard is a genius:
..expects to graduate in 2008 with V.C in Broadcast News

Nothing like a degree in Broadcast News to show the folks how smart you are. Maybe he can wash my car... er.

LEONARD

08-05-2009, 02:10 PM

You love to change your arguments every second it's awesome. "It's HD rah rah."

"Did I say it's XXX"

Seriously.. good stuff. You make me giggle like a school girl.

You've officially lost me now...

You've taken this from Fedor, to me being fat, to Kyle Maynard, to me watching fights on a projector setup...all over the road...

oligarchy

08-05-2009, 03:21 PM

Just showing your failures.

polandprzem

08-05-2009, 03:32 PM

God tell me the world it's not like it is

robbie380

08-05-2009, 03:40 PM

http://www.humoursenseupgrade.com/uploads/posts/1170278823_sbjnnr.jpeghttp://nahright.com/news/wp-content/images/internet_arguments.jpg

oligarchy

08-05-2009, 04:03 PM

:lol

Rip-Hamilton32

08-05-2009, 04:09 PM

Fedor is afraid of Lesnar. thats all that needs to be said

djohn14

08-05-2009, 04:21 PM

Jesus Christ

robbie380

08-05-2009, 04:40 PM

Jesus Christ

not sure who joe silva would match him up with but he would probably have trouble with this...

http://www.grapplearts.com/Images/Grappling-Techniques/Matt-Kirtley/Crucifix-Traditional.JPG

oligarchy

08-05-2009, 04:43 PM

not sure who joe silva would match him up with but he would probably have trouble with this...

http://www.grapplearts.com/Images/Grappling-Techniques/Matt-Kirtley/Crucifix-Traditional.JPG

Silva would match him up with this guy:
http://www.uga.edu/gm/artman/uploads/maynardmain.jpg

You're not going to crucify him, nor he is going to crucify Jefus. Top notch MMA fighter right there. :hat

robbie380

08-05-2009, 04:50 PM

Silva would match him up with this guy:

You're not going to crucify him, nor he is going to crucify Jefus. Top notch MMA fighter right there. :hat

you weigh 195, right? do you think you could beat him if you cut weight (arms, legs, etc)?

didn't think so!

robbie ftw!

http://www.100megsfree4.com/wiawrestling/graphics/FTWTITLE.jpg
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/601/1226189908040hq6.jpg

LEONARD

08-05-2009, 05:01 PM

Top notch MMA fighter right there. :hat

Wow, that's a ridiculous opinion on your part...

you weigh 195, right?

and his BMI is 24...don't forget that.

I bet Maynard is a severe fat fuck based on BMI...poor guy.

LEONARD

08-05-2009, 05:03 PM

Evan

08-05-2009, 05:09 PM

I'm the star

oligarchy

08-05-2009, 05:19 PM

you weigh 195, right? do you think you could beat him if you cut weight (arms, legs, etc)?

didn't think so!

robbie ftw!

I wouldn't literally cut anything to lose weight. Sorry. I would crush him. :lol

Or he might RNC me.

I figured out why oligarchy is so angry these days...

I'm not angry, because I could care less about pick 'ems. The only 'picks' I care about is when I bet, and I win more often than or lose, or better I win more than I lose, at least.

You're just angry because Fedor doesn't want to face the top competition then I take it? Are you mad because he continues to duck UFC's heavyweights? First he didn't want to sign when Randy was champ, and now he definitely doesn't want to sign when Lesnar is champ. I mean those guys are no Matt Linland or Hong Man Choi, or UFC cast offs, but eh.

oligarchy

08-05-2009, 05:22 PM

I figured out why oligarchy is so angry these days...

W L

Evan --------------47-25 .652
dbreiden83080 -----46-25 .647
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Maybe your mad, because you seem to care so much about it. Maybe that madness has you thinking stupid things like Maynard is an MMA fighter, Fedor isn't ducking UFC, etc. So, now, you're trying to project your anger on me. I get it.

Evan

08-05-2009, 06:11 PM

Was Gegard Mousasi Actually Misled by M-1 Management?

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/8/5/978383/was-gegard-mousasi-actually-misled

Vadim is a 1000 x's worse than Dana.

BlackSwordsMan

08-05-2009, 07:56 PM

leonard likes defending retards
kyle maynard and fedor

oligarchy

08-05-2009, 08:06 PM

Was Gegard Mousasi Actually Misled by M-1 Management?

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/8/5/978383/was-gegard-mousasi-actually-misled

Vadim is a 1000 x's worse than Dana.

Maybe he led Fedor to believe that the SF gig was worth more, simply for the fact that Vadim would be "getting his."

Evan

08-05-2009, 11:15 PM

evan always changes my titles

sorry brother I just try to keep the titles clear for big threads. I want to make sure google picks us up in searches.

Evan

08-05-2009, 11:16 PM

Maybe he led Fedor to believe that the SF gig was worth more, simply for the fact that Vadim would be "getting his."

agree 100%.

I remember all the stories in the 90's about how Russian NHL players were run by the mafia. As of right now Dana can't hold a candle to Vadim.

dbreiden83080

08-05-2009, 11:26 PM

sorry brother I just try to keep the titles clear for big threads. I want to make sure google picks us up in searches.

Ah well done..

Evan

08-05-2009, 11:32 PM

Ah well done..

thanks man. I am amazed at how well this mma section has grown...from a freaking Spurs website....

and I will never get over the fact that I don't even really like basketball...lol...no offense to y'all. I appreciate it for what it is but it just doesn't grab me.

dbreiden83080

08-05-2009, 11:35 PM

thanks man. I am amazed at how well this mma section has grown...from a freaking Spurs website....

and I will never get over the fact that I don't even really like basketball...lol...no offense to y'all. I appreciate it for what it is but it just doesn't grab me.

It's definately been great. I never talk MMA anywhere else anymore. You and Leonard were the guys that started it, i joined in later along with some of the other regulars, but before we knew it, the fight threads were bigger than anything other sports was putting up. To this day that section is dead and has been dead since the MMA forum went up. Getting some more visitors here also, which is cool..

LEONARD

08-06-2009, 09:17 AM

leonard likes defending retards
kyle maynard and fedor

Solid point...both of those guys are clearly "retards"...

and I don't get why this Maynard shit is being drug up. All I said was let him fight if he wants to fight and don't judge him until you see him fight. Suddenly everybody has me proclaiming him as a legit threat in MMA. He got his fight, he got thru it (without getting his head knocked off), now he can move on...I'm pretty sure that was his goal in reality. Just to test himself, regardless of modified rules or whatever. If you want to shit all over that, fine...but you're a rick with an R if you do IMO.

Evan

08-06-2009, 12:02 PM

Just to test himself, regardless of modified rules or whatever..

Agree with this.

My biggest negative point in that issue was him being used by a promoter.

oligarchy

08-06-2009, 12:23 PM

I don't agree. It's a stupid take. He didn't fight in an MMA match. He's not an MMA fighter.

If we said, let's play a game of basketball, but we change the rules so that we don't shoot at the goal. Instead, we roll the ball into a net, does that make it basketball?

Just because you label it something, doesn't mean that's what it is. They should have called it a wrestling exhibition or some such, but to label it or him anything MMA, is a joke.

Evan

08-06-2009, 12:33 PM

I don't agree. It's a stupid take. He didn't fight in an MMA match. He's not an MMA fighter.

Agree it wasn't MMA.

It was a grappling match.

2centsworth

08-06-2009, 02:20 PM

Help me understand why all the analysis for someone who is obviously roided up? No amount of Leonard dilusional man love is going to change that

dbreiden83080

08-06-2009, 02:22 PM

Help me understand why all the analysis for someone who is obviously roided up?

They're not working..

http://www.mmapassport.com/files/2008/07/fedor-emelianenko.jpg

oligarchy

08-06-2009, 02:25 PM

They're not working..

http://www.mmapassport.com/files/2008/07/fedor-emelianenko.jpg

It's not always the physique..

http://www.fcfighter.com/PICTURES/UFC36/couture-barnett-hands-up.jpg

LEONARD

08-06-2009, 02:37 PM

Help me understand why all the analysis for someone who is obviously roided up? No amount of Leonard dilusional man love is going to change that

What about Fedor makes you think he's more likely to be roided up than any other fighter??

You do realize he's fought in the US several times and has passed drug tests, right?

LEONARD

08-06-2009, 02:52 PM

Lots of tidbits from MMAWeekly during SF / M-1 Press Conf...

Fedor on choosing promotional home: The offer that we got from the UFC was "really miserable."

Fedor says if the numbers rumored to have been offered him by the UFC were true, he would have signed with the UFC.

Fedor: I make the decisions and Vadim makes the public announcement. I feel very sorry that fans won't see fight with Brock Lesnar.

Coker declines to give details on Fedor's price tag...

Coker on Fedor PPV: We'll enter PPV business, but it will probably be 6-9 months away...

Vadim on UFC deal: In uniting with Strikeforce, M-1 gets to broadcast Strikeforce event in Korea, Japan, and Russia. UFC wouldn't do that.

Fedor: If Strikeforce was able to offer better offer than the UFC, why would I go to the UFC?

Coker on Dana White calling Strikeforce "Strikefarce": Of course he's going to say that, he's a promoter.

Echteld also confirms the UFC tried to put a stop to Strikeforce bout between Mousasi and Babalu Sobral on Aug. 15

Fedor on White's claim he doesn't care about fans: The last two fights I had really good opponents.

Vadim chimes in on White's comments: Rogers is a very good opponent for Fedor....

Fedor on his relationship with M-1: I have full control of all the contracts and my career as well. I get all the financial reports as well.

Conference call operator gives Scott Coker's cell phone out "on the air." :lol

Coker: M-1 not having a US promoter's license is "not a big issue."

oligarchy

08-06-2009, 03:32 PM

I don't believe any of that. The hold up was the co-promotion, not the numbers.

Of course he won't give Fedor's numbers. It's a farce. He knows Dana & Co. would simply show what they offered him was more.

oligarchy

08-06-2009, 03:33 PM

I'm sure there's a napkin somewhere out there with Fedor's numbers from Dana.

dbreiden83080

08-06-2009, 03:55 PM

Evan

08-06-2009, 05:18 PM

LEONARD

08-07-2009, 10:06 AM

It's not shocking that Fedor (and team) turned Dana down based on the things Dana has said about him over the years. It's really hard to believe much that Dana says IMO...he's almost always in promoter mode. This whole "$30 million" deal is based on what Dana and crew says, right? Has a copy of the contract been released??? Fedor says the numbers the UFC/Dana have put out there aren't accurate. The truth is probably somewhere between what the UFC says it was and what M-1 says it was. So basically, we don't know about the money...which is what I've been saying all along...

Now some fun with Dana quotes on Fedor...

Sept 26 2007: “I think that Fedor, right now, the word is he wants to fight in this Sambo event, but I won’t let him fight in it if he’s with us. I think he’s going to wait until he fights in this thing in October, November, and we’ll probably come to a deal with him at the end of this year or the beginning of next year. I’m very positive we’re going to end up with him. It would be crazy for him to fight anywhere else other than the UFC.” White and the UFC have big plans for Emelianenko if they can secure the deal. “What we’d want to do is, we’d want to know who is the best heavyweight in the world. So if we sign Fedor, Fedor comes right in and fights Randy Couture for the title,” Dana White comments on Fedor Emelianenko | Inside the Octagon

Oct 12th 2007: “Fedor has that mystique where people think he’s number one, which I don’t agree with. I think that Fedor is completely overrated – he’s fought Mark Coleman and Matt Lindland in the last year, with Mark Hunt being his only legitimate opponent - and I actually think that Randy Couture would have smashed Fedor.” New Dana White Interview On Couture, Entire Transcript - MMAFightLine.com

Oct 25th 2007 "Fedor sucks," said White. "He's not even a top 5 Heavyweight in the world." Dana White: "Fedor isn't even a top five heavyweight." - MMAFightLine.com

July 31st 2007: “We'll have him (Fedor) soon. We'll have him before the end of the year.” White not worried about the competition - MMA - ESPN

2/4/2008: “Randy Couture, right now is the best fighter in the world. Fedor is a farce. He [just fought] "Long Duck Dong"...we'll just call him that. It's a joke. This guy hasn't beat anybody since 2005 and you know who was the last guy he beat in 2005? Mirko Cro Cop who just lost to two guy's that nobody's...you know.” Dana White Dana calls Choi Hong-Man “long duck dong.” - MMAFightLine.com

Feb 5th, 2008: Fedor isn’t a real fighter, he’s a complete joke. He’s fighting middleweights and guys who have absolutely no business fighting — and he’s looking like s*** doing it. It's 2008 and he hasn’t had a real fight since 2005. I don’t care about what he did in PRIDE years ago — he can’t live with anyone in the top five in the UFC and that’s why he’s not here.
He’s not in the UFC because if he was he couldn’t avoid real competition like he’s been doing for years now. Dana answers your questions | The Sun |Sport|UFC

Feb. 9th 2008: In response to an interviewer commenting on Randy Couture wanting to fight Fedor: “A Russian who sucks. Okay this guy hasn’t fought anybody in two years.” YouTube - Dana White calls Randy Couture Gay & Prank Call

Oct. 15th, 2008: “I’m not out there chasing Fedor. If Fedor wants to prove that he is the best in the world…you know…he’ll end up in the UFC someday. YouTube - UFC Dana White Though on FEDOR Emelianenko,TiTo,KimBo,Shamrock,Couture

Oct 24th, 2008: "If you look at Fedor, Fedor's got power, and he can knock you out, but I wouldn't say he has great stand-up," Dana White: Fedor Emelianenko Doesn't Have Great Stand-Up, Anderson Silva Is the Best - MMA FanHouse

July 20th, 2008: When asked about Fedor’s win over Sylvia: “It does (change my opinion),” he conceded. “Tim Sylvia was a real opponent.” White stands by his man Silva - MMA - Yahoo! Sports

August 6th 2008: While doing a word association with different fighters names, Dana responded to Fedor’s name by saying “Overrated.” YouTube - Dana White on Mark Cuban, Tito, Couture, GSP, Fedor and Canada

August 15th, 2008: He’s not the best pound-for-pound fighter, not even close, but he’s one of the four or five best heavyweights. But we all have to thank him for getting rid of Tim Sylvia. He’d been stinking out the joint the last couple of years and Fedor did everyone a favor by beating him so easily and getting rid of him.” Dana White: ‘Fedor did everyone a favor by beating’ Tim Sylvia at UFC blog for UFC news, results, videos, rumors, fights, pics and tickets — MMAmania.com

Sept. 2nd 2008: Fedor is completely (expletive) irrelevant,” White said. “Completely.” Couture returns to UFC, faces Lesnar - MMA - Yahoo! Sports

Nov. 19th 2008: “I’ve been trying to get Fedor forever now. You know one of the crazy things when I tell people for the 9 years I’ve been promoting this business…that I’ve been trying to get Fedor, I’ve never even met Fedor…People talk about how great he is and everything else, you know, he hasn’t fought anbody since 2005…Fedor is a bunch of hype.” YouTube - Dana White talks GSP/Penn Fedor

Dec: 28th 2008: "God, I hope so," White said. "That's not up to me. I can only try so much. There's only so much I can do." Fight Instinct - MMA News: Dana White: Fedor vs. Lesnar "God, I hope so¦"

Dec 30th 2008: “(Laughs) That’s so crazy! How can you call him the number one heavyweight in the world? The guy doesn’t fight anybody!”
“After seeing what!? Tim Sylvia!? Everybody knocked Tim Sylvia down in the first round… Randy Couture knocked Tim Sylvia down in the first round too and took his back. Randy just couldn’t choke him out or he would have choked him out the same exact way Fedor did!”
“Could you imagine if I had stable full of guys that fought once every two and half to three years and said they were the best fighter in the world!? Give me a break. Listen, I’ve got no problem with Fedor. I’ve tried to bring him in many times (and) I’m still trying. If Fedor wants to get on the phone tonight I’ll try and cut a deal with him. But don’t call yourself the best heavyweight in the world unless you’re willing to come in and fight three times a year against the best. Annihilate all the best in here and I’ll call you the best.

“I want to make the fight. I don’t want to sit around and say, ‘No (Fedor) sucks, he’s not the best’ and not let him fight. I’ll bring him and let him fight everybody. I’ll even pay him — good money. More money than these other knuckleheads can pay him. You’re not the best to me unless you come in and prove it. Just because you knocked Tim Sylvia down and choked him out, you’re not the best. I mean everybody has done that. Andrei Arlovski did it; he heel hooked him in the first round. Randy Couture knocked him down and almost choked him out in the first round (too).” Dana White: Fedor Still Isn’t The Best Heavyweight, Nog Had Staph

Jan 3rd, 2009: Asked whether Fedor will ever fight in the UFC, White said, "Who knows? Every time you think you've got some traction with these guys and you're going to do something, they spin off and do something dumber than before. These guys keep making stupid moves. The problem is Fedor doesn't control his destiny, his manager does. These guys are from Russia. It's a whole nother world in Russia, man. Listen, in all the dealings we've had with Fedor, I've never even met Fedor. He doesn't control his destiny, his manager does." Dana White: Fedor Emelianenko Doesn't Control His Destiny, His Manager Does - MMA FanHouse

1/8/2009: I'd like to see Andrei win. He's my guy, so I obviously want to see him beat Fedor. MMA Submission: One On One with Dana White - ESPN The Magazine

1/8/2009: My only beef with Fedor is that he's not fighting consistently right now, against top competition. I can't call someone the best in the world unless he's fighting against the best, and he's fighting three times a year, minimum. I can't call somebody like Fedor the best in the world, because he hasn't been doing that. MMA Submission: One On One with Dana White - ESPN The Magazine

1/8/2009: I'd sign Fedor in a heartbeat, if we could work out his contract situation with Affliction after they go under. I've been trying to sign Fedor for a long, long time. The problem has always been his management. I've still never even met Fedor himself. MMA Submission: One On One with Dana White - ESPN The Magazine

1/8/2009: Yes, he's had a great career. He just hasn't done it lately. If he wants to fight the best in the world and prove how great he is, I am certainly willing to listen and maybe sign him. MMA Submission: One On One with Dana White - ESPN The Magazine

1/29/2009: “If Fedor doesn’t care than neither do I. If he wants to come over and fight the best in the world then that’s cool with me. At the end of the day, if Fedor wants to fight here I’m here, if he doesn’t I don’t care.” UFC FIGHT: UFC President Dana White Talks Affliction And Fedor Emelianenko

Feb 3rd 2009: “Yes, he’s top five [pound-for-pound]. I say he’s top five. He can punch. I’ll say that.” THEMMAFiend - Mixed Martial Arts & UFC News, Exclusive Interviews, Commentary, And More Blog Archive Dana White Admits Fedor Emelianenko Is Top 5

Feb 4th, 2009: People think I talk all this s**t about Fedor. I'd love to have Fedor in the UFC. If he cares to come in and fight the best in the world, then I care. If he doesn't care then why should I care? That's my philosophy on that. At the end of the day, the best guys in the world are the guys like GSP, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Lyoto Machida, these guys fight the best in the world three times a year and prove that they're the best. Rashad Evans -- look who Rashad has fought this year. Look who Forrest Griffin has fought this year. These guys continually fight the best in the world three times a year. They deserve your respect and praise. Dana White on UFC 94, GSP's Vaseline and Saturday's Fight Night on Spike - MMA FanHouse

Feb 7th on Bubba the Love Sponge
“You can just tell when you see this guy — I will tell you, he’s a bad mother[expletive]. You can just tell by looking at him,” White said in an interview on “The Bubba the Love Sponge Show” on Sirius Satellite Radio. “He’s been considered one of the best in the world for a long time,” White later added. “I’d put him in there against whoever’s the top guy at that time. I’d put him in against whoever the top guy is… There’s a lot of possibilities for Fedor.”

Feb 9th 2009: “I want Fedor too, contrary to popular belief. I have no idea what they want. Everything makes no sense to me. I think they thought, 'You know, we'll partner up with these guys and we'll own a piece of this thing.' It's all mixed signals. You never know what these guys want. When I first met with these guys, (Fedor's) manager is like, 'Here's what we want to do. My brother is the biggest rock concert promoter over there. So here's what we want. We want you to build an arena in Russia,'" recounted White. "And I'm like, '(Expletive) timeout.' I want to sign a guy. I'm not looking to build arenas or get into business with you or anything like that. We'll pay him what he wants to be paid. We'll promote and do this and that. But it's not about Fedor when you talk to these guys. I've never met Fedor! I've never said one (expletive) word to the guy. I've never even seen him face to face.

I don't know what they want... Fedor's one of these guys that, listen, everybody thinks that I won't give Fedor his props and everything. B.J. Penn and Georges St. Pierre and Anderson Silva and every other guy in this company fight the best of the best three times a year. Fedor's not doing that. If he wants to fight guys three times a year, prove he's the best, if he wants to do that, I'm willing to do it with him," says White.

I don't think he cares about a legacy or any of that kind of stuff," he continued. "I don't know. I'd like to see him fight in the UFC." - FEDOR AND THE UFC: WILL IT EVER HAPPEN? - MMA WEEKLY - Mixed Martial Arts & UFC News, Photos, Rankings & more

April 21, 2009 - "Fedor is not the pound-for-pound best fighter in the world," White said. "Fedor is at a buffet somewhere in Russia."

July 12, 2009 - "This whole Fedor thing has been going on and on and on," White said. "I keep saying this and that about him and he keeps waiting. Eventually, Fedor's going to be here. I want Fedor. I want him to come to the UFC and everything else." "This guy just became the heavyweight champion," White said, gesturing to Lesnar. "We'll end up getting that deal done. And then we'll do Brock vs. Fedor, and it'll be a huge fight."

Aug 4, 2009 - “I’m in Abu Dhabi right now and my reaction is Fedor is a [expletive] joke. [He] turns down a huge deal and the opportunity to face the best in the world to fight nobodies, for no money. Fedor is a [expletive]. “I feel sorry for the real fans! I wanted to make the deal but it takes two and it is VERY obvious Fedor doesn’t want to fight the best and doesn’t give a [expletive] about the fans.”

polandprzem

08-07-2009, 10:46 AM

Leo we all know how dana is, thee is nothing new. It does not change the situation. It's all about action not talking. Fedor just said no to the best contract available.

LEONARD

08-07-2009, 11:02 AM

Leo we all know how dana is, thee is nothing new. It does not change the situation. It's all about action not talking. Fedor just said no to the best contract available.

Based on what Dana said the contract was, right? You follow me?

polandprzem

08-07-2009, 11:05 AM

Based on what Dana said the contract was, right? You follow me?

No

:)

The media was talking about contract

LEONARD

08-07-2009, 11:06 AM

No

:)

The media was talking about contract

and where did the media get the contract info?

polandprzem

08-07-2009, 11:09 AM

Just because Dana says he wants to get Fedor all the time and gets frustreted sometimes calling him no good doesn't mean he lied about contract.
btw. we did not get the details

I do not know what's your point in all this?
That Fedor did a good thing?

He didn't

Did he? In your opinion?

LEONARD

08-07-2009, 11:16 AM

My point is all the talk about the contracts is based on what Dana put out to the media...I just have a hard time believing:

1. $30M, in any form or fashion
2. Dana, in general

My point is that all the discussion about money is pointless because we just don't know what was on the table. Dana says one thing...Fedor says another. IMO, Dana is more likely to spew BS in order to support his cause, but I don't trust Vadim either so maybe Fedor is spewing whatever he's being instructed to say. Result...we don't know about the money.

So complain about Fedor not being in the UFC if you'd like (I'd rather him be there too!), but just saying "he took less money to fight lesser competition" (like so many are) isn't really fair since we just don't know if that's true or not.

My other point is that it's not surprising that they're not chomping at the bit to work with Dana based on the things he's said in the past about them...

polandprzem

08-07-2009, 11:26 AM

UFC is much more pwerfull then Strikeforce, so we can assume that the contract was better from the get go. 30 probably could happen in the most optimistic speculations about ppv buys.
And you sound like I'm attacking you. I'm not doing that. Dana is doing this when things not going his way and that is singing Fedor so that's why he gets pissed at him. That's his character... F that btw.
I'm not atacking you :)

oligarchy

08-07-2009, 11:30 AM

Dana has talking head in the media -- they released the contract details.

Dana hasn't lied about what others have made, recall how the same people released the details of Randy's contract after Randy said he only making XX.

Dana talking shit about Fedor has nothing to do with his contract.

M-1 has proven time and again they are liars, and about contracts to even their OWN FIGHTERS! So, in no way would it surprise me that Fedor believes the UFC contract was lower because he was fucking lied to.

They are chomping at the bit, but they want co-promotion.. not happening. Anyone with sense or sensibility knows how much annually UFC pulls in. Ask the Fertitas, they are pulling in more than their casinos. You think they want to co-promote with some company that isn't known for one single fighter?

They can afford to pay him those numbers -- they'll promote the hell out of him and build up Lesnar / Fedor. The 30 million isn't guaranteed money, that's been stated. 30 million would be if he were to break most PPV buys so far, so he'd be making less than 30 most likely. I believe it was stated he would make 18 million minimum if all his fights were busts. There's no way Lesnar / Fedor wouldn't sell less than 1 million buys.

LEONARD

08-07-2009, 04:13 PM

Where was the $18M guaranteed reported??

We all know the UFC won't co-promote...I don’t think that’s been a discussion point really.

Wouldn’t shock me if Fedor has been lied to, after seeing the Mousasi BS.

Dana talking shit probably has a lot to do with Fedor not being gung-ho to jump in bed with him long-term.

When asked about the offer to Fedor, Dana just says it was a lot…mini-dodge on his part.
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polandprzem

08-08-2009, 08:29 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CTs0tnx4hQ&feature=related

LEONARD

08-08-2009, 09:09 AM

4CTs0tnx4hQ

Just put what's after the = sign and before the & symbol and it'll show up... :hat

polandprzem

08-08-2009, 09:25 AM

Just put what's after the = sign and before the & symbol and it'll show up... :hat

I know

Just forgot that it works like this on this site and I was in a hurry to put it in here.

polandprzem

08-08-2009, 10:42 AM

that one is worthy as well i think

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polandprzem

08-09-2009, 05:09 AM

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3650/fedorr.jpg

oligarchy

08-09-2009, 02:41 PM

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3650/fedorr.jpg

Must be shopping for fight gear for his fight with the winner of Gina/Cyborg

Evan

08-09-2009, 02:53 PM

Fedor has some of the most random pics....lol

LEONARD

09-17-2009, 05:19 PM

What happens when SF ends up on CBS? How does the money work out then?

I'm sure a card or two will be on CBS. Maybe not before Fedors contract expires..

This is good for Fedor...

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/9/17/1035276/strikeforce-fedor-emelianenko-vs

Makes his signing with SF make a little more sense...like I said, who knows how the money shakes out when you throw ratings on CBS in the mix.

BlackSwordsMan

09-17-2009, 05:21 PM

I hope he gets KO'd

LEONARD

09-17-2009, 05:26 PM

Weak...

IMO, real MMA fans should hope he does well and gets more popular in the US...with the long-term goal being to sign with the UFC in a year and come in with the casual fan already knowing who he is...

dallaskd

09-17-2009, 06:08 PM

CBS better advertise the shit out of fedor like they did with kimbo.