Mavs Not Expected To Match Offer For Hollins

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Mavs Not Expected To Match Offer For Hollins

The Timberwolves have signed restricted free-agent center Ryan Hollins to an offer sheet.

The terms of the deal aren't yet known. The Mavericks will have seven days to match Minnesota's offer, but they are not expected to do so.

Dallas owner Mark Cuban went as far as to congratulate Hollins using his Twitter page on Monday: "congrats to ryan hollins. wish him the best w twolves."

Via ESPN


http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/60966/20090804/mavs_not_expected_to_match_offer_for_hollins/#

[Stump]

So what bigs does that leave Dallas with again? Dirk, Dampier, Gooden, and during small ball, Marion. Who are the others?

[Ditty]

The season is over for the mavs now

they let go of the best defender on duncan

we will add our 17 division title

while mavs are still looking for there 3rd

[angelbelow]

Owned.

[dirk4mvp]

:lmao

spurfans think this guy not being on the Mavs will make any impact.

[Stringer_Bell]

:lmao

spurfans think this guy not being on the Mavs will make any impact.

and mavs fans think bloated contracts for shawn marion and jason kidd won't have a negative impact. :rollin

[hater]

thank God. Mavs are a non-issue now

[Amarelooms]

thank God. Mavs are a non-issue now

lol yeah Hollins is the big key. STFU dummy homer. :elephant

[dirk4mvp]

and mavs fans think bloated contracts for shawn marion and jason kidd won't have a negative impact. :rollin

Yeah because Kidd and Marion aren't good players.

[Muser]

lol yeah Hollins is the big key. STFU dummy homer. :elephant


Your sarcasm senses must be quite poor.

[Ditty]

mavs have never been a factor and there only sucess is beating the spurs while there injured

spurs will breeze but the mavs with the depth the spurs havent had ever and we still have the mavs number

12>11

ha

[dirk4mvp]

Poor trolling job.

[BUMP]

spurs will breeze but the mavs with the depth the spurs havent had ever and we still have the mavs number


what language is that?

[Ditty]

what language is that?

sorry your mom had me distracted :p:

[clambake]

i'm not happy about losing hollins.

we would be better with him than without.

[BUMP]

i thought he had a lot of potential. We have a serious predicament at the center position for next season. Dampier will be gone and Gooden is definitely not the answer.

it will be interesting what we do

[Bruno]

Right now, Mavs have only one player able to defend the rim with Dampier. I wonder if they will do a move for another true center. Buckner's contract is a quite nice trade asset. I would be surprised to see Cuban not using it.

[clambake]

it will be interesting what we do

how will it be interesting?

i think we'll just get another dose of "we like our team".

[La Peace]

To be honest I liked Hollins.

But not a lot. Its a non issue, but the Mavs could use an athletic big. But at the end of the day its not a big deal.

[monosylab1k]

We're gonna wait till day 7 then match, totally screwing Minnesota! That'll make up for that whole Gortat thing!

[monosylab1k]

and honestly I think this losing Hollins will have a bigger impact than most other Mavs fans. The guy wasn't great, but he played with a lot of energy and heart, neither of which exist in Dampier. There were times where you could see even guys like Dirk feeding off of Hollins' energy.

But then again, he's also not the third coming of Bill Russell Diop as Spurs fans might believe he is. Dallas backup centers just have a knack for owning Tim Duncan, that's all, they're really not that good.

[Obstructed_View]

The Mavs just got slightly less dirty.

[clambake]

and honestly I think this losing Hollins will have a bigger impact than most other Mavs fans. The guy wasn't great, but he played with a lot of energy and heart, neither of which exist in Dampier. There were times where you could see even guys like Dirk feeding off of Hollins' energy.

But then again, he's also not the third coming of Bill Russell Diop as Spurs fans might believe he is. Dallas backup centers just have a knack for owning Tim Duncan, that's all, they're really not that good.

match the offer and give him more minutes.

[clambake]

The Mavs just got slightly less dirty.

wtf?

[monosylab1k]

The Mavs just got slightly less dirty.

rofl

[Obstructed_View]

I never watch the Mavs play and don't know anything about Hollins.

There.

[monosylab1k]

but Bruce Bowen just plays hard, clean defense, right?

[Obstructed_View]

but Bruce Bowen just plays hard, clean defense, right?

No he steps under people's feet knowing where they're going to land, he intentionally tries to injure every person he plays, and is woefully unsuccessful at it, and he's constantly being suspended by the league for the blatant cheap-shots he throws. Not sure how it matters, but feel free to post the Szczerbiak video one more time in an effort to change the subject.

Maybe Hollins only threw cheap shots because he was a Mav. I guess we'll find out this season.

[clambake]

There.

you can't have bowen on your team and complain about dirt.

[Obstructed_View]

you can't have bowen on your team and complain about dirt.

Bowen's not on my team, dumbass. I also never complained, I simply pointed it out. The guy's not a Mav anymore, so it was kind of a compliment.

[monosylab1k]

No he steps under people's feet knowing where they're going to land, he intentionally tries to injure every person he plays, and is woefully unsuccessful at it, and he's constantly being suspended by the league for the blatant cheap-shots he throws. Not sure how it matters, but feel free to post the Szczerbiak video one more time in an effort to change the subject.

Maybe Hollins only threw cheap shots because he was a Mav. I guess we'll find out this season.

What cheap shots was Hollins throwing?

[clambake]

Bowen's not on my team, dumbass. I also never complained, I simply pointed it out. The guy's not a Mav anymore, so it was kind of a compliment.

menial.

[45 bank shot]

We're gonna wait till day 7 then match, totally screwing Minnesota! That'll make up for that whole Gortat thing!

lol, who do you think Hollins is? you are not going to screw anyone but yourself if you match. Aren't you guys deep enough in the quagmire of Lux. tax.?

:rollin:rollin

[monosylab1k]

I can understand Spurs fans not liking Hollins after he owned Duncan and yelled in his face, but I honestly don't remember him doing anything dirty. I certainly could be wrong, but I really would like to know of any times where he threw a cheap shot at someone.

[45 bank shot]

I can understand Spurs fans not liking Hollins after he owned Duncan and yelled in his face, but I honestly don't remember him doing anything dirty. I certainly could be wrong, but I really would like to know of any times where he threw a cheap shot at someone.


who cares about hollins? He's not gonna be a mav anyway

[Obstructed_View]

What cheap shots was Hollins throwing?

He never threw a cheap shot. Nor did Jason Terry or Josh Howard or Jerry Stackhouse or even Juwan Howard. It's just whining by Spurfan to cover up for the sins of Bruce Bowen and the inferiority of the Spurs to the mighty boys in blue.

[monosylab1k]

He never threw a cheap shot. Nor did Jason Terry or Josh Howard or Jerry Stackhouse or even Juwan Howard. It's just whining by Spurfan to cover up for the sins of Bruce Bowen and the inferiority of the Spurs to the mighty boys in blue.

In other words you can't remember either.

[clambake]

sometimes, women and children just cry for no reason.

[Obstructed_View]

I can understand Spurs fans not liking Hollins after he owned Duncan and yelled in his face, but I honestly don't remember him doing anything dirty. I certainly could be wrong, but I really would like to know of any times where he threw a cheap shot at someone.

To actually explain my comment, I don't recall his ever doing anything to Timmy. Not even sure he ever had any issue with any of the Spurs. My impression of watching him last year was that he had just as many altercations or hard fouls as he did good plays, which is too many for a guy getting his minutes. Seemed like a guy with some talent but couldn't keep his cool. Again, we'll see how his temperament evolves with someone else.

[bostonguy]

Mavs vs Spurs debate! :corn:

[Obstructed_View]

In other words you can't remember either.

No, in other words, I won't bother trying to explain to someone who doesn't even think Jason Terry is dirty. But then I did. We'll see where it goes from here.

[spursfan1000]

If I was cuban I would have kept Ryan Hollins, hes around 25 years old and is a 7 footer, he looked nice when I did watch him play last season.

[monosylab1k]

No, in other words, I won't bother trying to explain to someone who doesn't even think Jason Terry is dirty. But then I did. We'll see where it goes from here.

But I thought dirty players get suspended for cheap shots? JET is obviously dirty, he got suspended for it.

I can't recall Hollins getting suspended for a cheap shot, and apparently neither do you. Are you saying you're wrong for calling Hollins dirty?

[sribb43]

First it was...

Gana Diop aka Bill Russell
Devin Harris aka GOD/Jesus

and now its....

Ryan Hollins aka Dikembe Mutumbo

[BUMP]

you're forgetting about Jose Juan "Cousy" Barea

[dirk4mvp]

I'm surprised Brandon Bass Barkley hasn't started yet.

[monosylab1k]

I'm surprised Brandon Bass Barkley hasn't started yet.

lol it has. Lots of Spurs fans claiming that Drew Gooden is a big downgrade from Bass because "Bass has high basketball IQ".

[sribb43]

you're forgetting about Jose Juan "Cousy" Barea

Well he is still on the squad so the whinning/overrating cant start yet

[BUMP]

lol it has. Lots of Spurs fans claiming that Drew Gooden is a big downgrade from Bass because "Bass has high basketball IQ".

"Bass is as an elite post defender as you can find in this league"

[sribb43]

"Bass is as an elite post defender as you can find in this league"

"His court awareness is 2nd to none in the league. He just goes after the ball when the it hits the rim. He is what we like to call a ballhawk"

[MavDynasty]

Barrack Obama was born in Hawaii.

[dirk4mvp]

lol it has. Lots of Spurs fans claiming that Drew Gooden is a big downgrade from Bass because "Bass has high basketball IQ".

lol how could I forget that thread where the nsync guy was telling us that we got a huge downgrade.

[Ditty]

gortat>hollins and gooden

[Brazil]

Mavs vs Spurs debate! :corn:
I'll go with :whine

[Findog]

It's funny how OV is an otherwise decent poster...but somehow the blue and green/Mark Cuban/Jason Terry/Roy Tarpley's coke dealer activates the manic part of his psychological profile.

[Rogue]

Re-signing Hollins is definitely a good move for the Mavs, both in the long run and the short term. Of course, such a good move isn't expected to be made by the Mavs as long as Donnie is the GM of this team. It doesn't cost much to re-sign a latent asset who would probably become a beast defender like Briedrins, or even a dominant center like Al Jefferson if dude lifts up more weight.

[Biggems]

while the loss of Hollins is not huge, it still takes away front court depth from a team already lacking front court depth.

[JustBlaze]

Hollins sucks, btw why'd the Mavs let bASS walk? Damn, that nigga sure torched us in the playoffs.:depressed

O well, at least Nugz won't have to deal with him next year...hopefully.

[sribb43]

Re-signing Hollins is definitely a good move for the Mavs, both in the long run and the short term. Of course, such a good move isn't expected to be made by the Mavs as long as Donnie is the GM of this team. It doesn't cost much to re-sign a latent asset who would probably become a beast defender like Briedrins, or even a dominant center like Al Jefferson if dude lifts up more weight.

First it was...

Gana Diop aka Bill Russell
Devin Harris aka GOD/Jesus

and now its....

Ryan Hollins aka Dikembe Mutumbo

[Rogue]

First it was...

Gana Diop aka Bill Russell
Devin Harris aka GOD/Jesus

and now its....

Ryan Hollins aka Dikembe Mutumbo
sincerely I don't see Biedrins has anything overwhelming what Hollins is equipped with, except the likelihood of getting injured. At the very least, Hollins will be a nice choice as Damp's backup taking 15-20 minutes a night. Besides, it doesn't cost that much to keep him, which makes this case different than Bill Rusell Diop. And I have never thought Donnie had overpaid Devin Harris, who have already proven he is even more valuable than what his salary tells. It's a low-risk investment to give Hollins a contract worth 7mil/3yr and the profit may be pretty freaking big if dude lives up to our expectations.

[Dr Cox]

i think this will hurt the mavs if they are playing against bigger posts, if damp gets in foul trouble he is the only other big who can defend at the rim, we know gooden and thomas cant....

should be interesting, i see the mavs making another movie b4 its all said and done

[sribb43]

i think this will hurt the mavs if they are playing against bigger posts, if damp gets in foul trouble he is the only other big who can defend at the rim, we know gooden and thomas cant....

should be interesting, i see the mavs making another movie b4 its all said and done

I'm sorry but Ryan Hollins is a 3rd center at best. he is not a reliable back up in this league. I put him on the level of Johan Petro, Shelden Williams, Randolph Morris, Aaron Gray, Steven Hunter...those type centers are always available. The one thing you can count on Hollins doing is fouling out in 10-15min of play. Sure as a 3rd center he would have been nice but to pay 3yr/$7mil is ridiculous for a guy that might see the floor in 50 games @ 5min a night

[mystargtr34]

It's funny how OV is an otherwise decent poster...but somehow the blue and green/Mark Cuban/Jason Terry/Roy Tarpley's coke dealer activates the manic part of his psychological profile.

:lol i laughed hard at that. Are YOU seriousiously calling someone out for that?

[Spurz iN 09]

wow Spurs just let go of the guy between a contender and a bottom feeder in the West. Have fun missing the playoffs Mavs:lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt2:

[z0sa]

:lol i laughed hard at that. Are YOU seriousiously calling someone out for that?

Oh I think he's being dead seriousious.

[Obstructed_View]

It's funny how OV is an otherwise decent poster...but somehow the blue and green/Mark Cuban/Jason Terry/Roy Tarpley's coke dealer activates the manic part of his psychological profile.

OV doesn't have Mark Cuban's dick stuffed in his mouth 24/7, so you have a problem with that. You cry like a baby every time I have a Mav-related post, even though I never go into the "why the Mavs suck" threads.

Hollins is a talented player that lets his emotions get the better of him and lets people get into his head. It's a legitimate evaluation, and something the Mavericks of all teams do not need. It's probably a contributing factor in the club's decision not to match, if that's ultimately how it goes.

Roy Tarpley's coke dealer?

[Dr Cox]

dang were going deep today!!!!


all the mavs posters are out and postin' love it!!!


nuthing like some good clean argueing



http://http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/files/uploads/BruceBowenBlocksDirk.jpg o ya..no foul :p: