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rapliketp
08-04-2009, 11:10 PM
http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/sierra/2009/08/04/pargo-owed-money/

August 4, 2009 @ 4:05 pm by Jorge Sierra · Filed under Greece, Jannero Pargo, Uncategorized

Sources tell HoopsHype.com that European powerhouse Olympiakos will soon be facing a grievance filed through FIBA’s Arbitral Tribunal related to outstanding payments from the 2008-09 season due to Bulls guard Jannero Pargo.

Pargo signed with Olympiakos in January after securing a buyout with financially struggling Dynamo Moscow. They parted ways two months later.

Olympiakos, who has consistently been one of the top teams in Europe for the last two decades, has been mentioned this summer as a possible destination for free agents like Allen Iverson, Nate Robinson and Linas Kleiza.

Brazil
08-04-2009, 11:23 PM
Lies !

ploto
08-04-2009, 11:35 PM
KBP in 5...4...3...2...1

Summers
08-04-2009, 11:35 PM
Lies !

Ah, damnit, I wanted to do it. :lol

BadOdor
08-05-2009, 01:05 AM
IS jew lies indeed.

spursfan1000
08-05-2009, 01:15 AM
pargo has more than enough money for the rest of his life...

Cry Havoc
08-05-2009, 01:22 AM
I thought the owners of Olympiakos were billionaires? Surely this shouldn't be a problem for them. :lol

fo'shizzle
08-05-2009, 02:13 AM
I thought the owners of Olympiakos were billionaires? Surely this shouldn't be a problem for them. :lol

3 owners, all billionaires son!

This is a proof of NBA lies!!! :lol

hater
08-05-2009, 08:53 AM
greek cheats

dave
08-05-2009, 11:47 AM
as much of a moron as KBP is, according to wikipedia he's not completely wrong

Under the ownership of the billionaire Greek brothers Panagiotis Angelopoulos and Giorgos Angelopoulos, Olympiacos made a record-transfer in 2008, by signing NBAer Josh Childress, whose $20 million net income contract for three years made him the highest-paid basketball player in the world outside the NBA,[2] while the club recurred to play in their fifth Euroleague final four after ten years of absence.


Panagiotis Angelopoulos is a Greek businessman and billionaire. Angelopoulos is a shipping magnate and a steel magnate. He is also the co-owner of the professional Greek League and Euroleague basketball team Olympiacos, along with his brother Giorgos. Panagiotis Angelopoulos has an estimated wealth of US$1.7 billion. His brother Giorgos Angelopoulos has an estimated wealth of US$1.4 billion.

Giorgos Angelopoulos AKA George Angelopoulos is a Greek businessman and billionaire. Angelopoulos is a shipping magnate and a steel magnate. He is also the co-owner of the professional Greek League and Euroleague basketball team Olympiacos, along with his brother Panagiotis. Giorgios Angelopoulos has an estimated wealth of US$1.4 billion. His brother Panagiotis Angelopoulos has an estimated wealth of US$1.7 billion.

fo'shizzle
08-05-2009, 11:51 AM
Son, how are we sure that it's not KBP who wrote that wikipedia article?

ambchang
08-05-2009, 12:09 PM
I don't know, I just trust Forbes more than I trust wikipedia.
For all it's worth, I can write a wiki article saying that I am worth $6.3 B trading fertilizers and grass seeds.

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2009/10/billionaires-2009-richest-people_The-Worlds-Billionaires_CountryOfPrmRes_6.html

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2009/10/billionaires-2009-richest-people_The-Worlds-Billionaires_CountryOfCitizen_7.html

The only Greek billionaire is this guy:
http://www.forbes.com/lists/2009/10/billionaires-2009-richest-people_Spiro-Latsis-family_QX6W.html, and his last name is not Angelopoulos.

Kill_Bill_Pana
08-05-2009, 12:57 PM
http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/sierra/2009/08/04/pargo-owed-money/

August 4, 2009 @ 4:05 pm by Jorge Sierra · Filed under Greece, Jannero Pargo, Uncategorized

Sources tell HoopsHype.com that European powerhouse Olympiakos will soon be facing a grievance filed through FIBA’s Arbitral Tribunal related to outstanding payments from the 2008-09 season due to Bulls guard Jannero Pargo.

Pargo signed with Olympiakos in January after securing a buyout with financially struggling Dynamo Moscow. They parted ways two months later.

Olympiakos, who has consistently been one of the top teams in Europe for the last two decades, has been mentioned this summer as a possible destination for free agents like Allen Iverson, Nate Robinson and Linas Kleiza.

Pargo will be sued by Olympiacos for those lies. The Greek player association confirmed he got all his money.

Kill_Bill_Pana
08-05-2009, 12:59 PM
I don't know, I just trust Forbes more than I trust wikipedia.
For all it's worth, I can write a wiki article saying that I am worth $6.3 B trading fertilizers and grass seeds.

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2009/10/billionaires-2009-richest-people_The-Worlds-Billionaires_CountryOfPrmRes_6.html

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2009/10/billionaires-2009-richest-people_The-Worlds-Billionaires_CountryOfCitizen_7.html

The only Greek billionaire is this guy:
http://www.forbes.com/lists/2009/10/billionaires-2009-richest-people_Spiro-Latsis-family_QX6W.html, and his last name is not Angelopoulos.

You fucking idiot. Forbes only lists money held in US assets. All their money is held in Swiss assets.

Kill_Bill_Pana
08-05-2009, 01:01 PM
Also Angelopoulos brothers only own 49 percent of the club. Kokallis owns 51 percent. he is also a billionaire.

Kill_Bill_Pana
08-05-2009, 01:05 PM
All you fucking assholes that call me a liar and say I should be banned read this and GTFO. You damn morons. Everyone knows Pargo is a fucking liar. Greek player association already looked at the records and said he made it up.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3644739

ATHENS, Greece

Panayiotis Angelopoulos, a billionaire who owns Olympiacos with his brother George, said he wants to make his team the best in the world outside the NBA, according to The New York Times.

"Next season I will open up a small office for free agents in New York, and I will take petitions," Angelopoulos said.

Childress stunned many NBA observers when he signed a guaranteed three-year deal worth $20 million after taxes with Olympiacos, rather than re-sign with the Hawks. Olympiacos is paying Childress' Greek taxes, the 10 percent agent's fee and his housing and expenses, increasing the team's cost to $30 million, according to the report.

Olympiacos, with a $70 million operating budget and the backing of the Angelopoulos brothers' billions, could be a serious player in the free-agent market. The family owns shipping and steel companies and Angelopoulos said he has done multimillion-dollar business deals, according to the report.



Also this PROVES all of you mofos lie hundreds and hundreds of times on this site about the European clubs paying in net money. All you LIARS are the ones that Kori should ban because your lies have been going on for hundreds of posts and are absurd.

Kill_Bill_Pana
08-05-2009, 01:09 PM
http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/hawks/stories/2008/07/23/childress_hawks_greece.html

Childress leaving Hawks to join Greek franchise
Restricted free agent signs $32.5 million deal with Olympiakos of Greece

By SEKOU SMITH
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 07/23/08

Who knew the NBA's path to true globalization would one day travel through Atlanta?

Former Hawks swingman Josh Childress had no idea he'd be the pioneer he appears to be today, the morning after signing a three-year, $32.5- million contract with Greek powerhouse Olympiakos, rather than accepting a deal from the Hawks.

Childress, 25, is the first player at this stage of his NBA career to spurn the world's most high-profile basketball stage for one of its international alternatives.

Atlanta had offered him a five-year, $33 million contract. But the Hawks' slow-paced negotiating tactics and the limits of restricted free agency, combined with what Childress called Wednesday the "opportunity of a lifetime," resulted in his decision.

Whether others follow remains to be seen, but Pandora's Box has clearly been opened.

"I've talked with a few guys and it could become a trend," said Childress, whose net pay from Olympiakos will be $20 million.





Once again just STFU all you damn liars it is a never ending insult that you do and Kori should ban you for hundreds of endless lies you post in these forums and ALWAYS knowing I am the one telling the truth and not you.

lil_penny
08-05-2009, 01:20 PM
Son, how are we sure that it's not KBP who wrote that wikipedia article?

Lol

ginobili's bald spot
08-05-2009, 01:27 PM
All you fucking assholes that call me a liar and say I should be banned read this and GTFO. You damn morons. Everyone knows Pargo is a fucking liar. Greek player association already looked at the records and said he made it up.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3644739

ATHENS, Greece

Panayiotis Angelopoulos, a billionaire who owns Olympiacos with his brother George, said he wants to make his team the best in the world outside the NBA, according to The New York Times.

"Next season I will open up a small office for free agents in New York, and I will take petitions," Angelopoulos said.

Childress stunned many NBA observers when he signed a guaranteed three-year deal worth $20 million after taxes with Olympiacos, rather than re-sign with the Hawks. Olympiacos is paying Childress' Greek taxes, the 10 percent agent's fee and his housing and expenses, increasing the team's cost to $30 million, according to the report.

Olympiacos, with a $70 million operating budget and the backing of the Angelopoulos brothers' billions, could be a serious player in the free-agent market. The family owns shipping and steel companies and Angelopoulos said he has done multimillion-dollar business deals, according to the report.



Also this PROVES all of you mofos lie hundreds and hundreds of times on this site about the European clubs paying in net money. All you LIARS are the ones that Kori should ban because your lies have been going on for hundreds of posts and are absurd.

I thought American media is Jew lies? And now you are referencing them? At least be consistent.

Bob Lanier
08-05-2009, 01:46 PM
Greek billionaires are probably cheap Jews.

And where's your link to the Greek Players' Association?

Kill_Bill_Pana
08-05-2009, 04:00 PM
Greek billionaires are probably cheap Jews.

And where's your link to the Greek Players' Association?

http://www.psak.gr/index.php?id=16,270,0,0,1,0

Once again I am proven right and once again Pargo is a liar.

Bob Lanier
08-05-2009, 04:07 PM
So the "investigation" was on the 1st of July and the complaint by Pargo is on the 4th of August. Doesn't sound like a response to me.

But thank you for voluntarily admitting that 57% of your top league doesn't pay its players. :lmao

Summers
08-05-2009, 04:11 PM
Got damn, KBP, settle the fuck down. Stop going into roid rage every time there's a post about Greeks.

ginobili's bald spot
08-05-2009, 04:12 PM
http://www.psak.gr/index.php?id=16,270,0,0,1,0

Here's a summary for those of you who don't speak the language.

- Greeks take it up the ass

- Spanoulis was a bench warmer in the NBA. Once again proving Greek league sucks and KBP is jew lies

- Greek teams can't pay their players

- Play in half empty barns

- Jauque Vaughn >>>> Spanoulis

Bob Lanier
08-05-2009, 04:13 PM
Got damn, KBP, settle the fuck down. Stop going into roid rage every time there's a post about Greeks.

Well, like many Greeks (even millionaire professional athletes), KBP is limited by a dishonest and irregular financial system, which inhibits the development of higher human functions. In other words, he's "Safety"-deficient.

http://www.greekmovement.com/images/maslow/MaslowsGreeksPyramid.jpg

SonOfAGun
08-05-2009, 04:14 PM
Lies! They pay him in goat milk.

Bob Lanier
08-05-2009, 04:19 PM
http://gnuhaus.com/jordan/images/goatmilk.jpg
Panagiotis Angelopoulos teaches his daughter Antigone to handle the family's books at their financial offices in Peace and Friendship Stadium (front facade seen below)
http://z.about.com/d/studenttravel/1/0/b/H/nebraska_barn.jpg

Bob Lanier
08-05-2009, 04:21 PM
http://www.dansk-okoged.dk/pix/spring1a.jpg

Summers
08-05-2009, 04:21 PM
:lol Y'all are mean.

Kill_Bill_Pana
08-05-2009, 05:41 PM
So the "investigation" was on the 1st of July and the complaint by Pargo is on the 4th of August. Doesn't sound like a response to me.

But thank you for voluntarily admitting that 57% of your top league doesn't pay its players. :lmao

You stupid fool. Pargo was already off the team before this. He was cut from the team before the season even ended for poor playing.

Bob Lanier
08-05-2009, 05:51 PM
You stupid fool. Pargo was already off the team before this. He was cut from the team before the season even ended for poor playing.
Yes, I know - and the complaint was after this.

But enough about Pargo. What about the 57% of other Greek A teams who don't pay their players?

Kill_Bill_Pana
08-05-2009, 06:08 PM
Yes, I know - and the complaint was after this.

But enough about Pargo. What about the 57% of other Greek A teams who don't pay their players?

WTF? You can't read Greek. And you also fail at math.

sabar
08-05-2009, 06:14 PM
WTF? You can't read Greek. And you also fail at math.

So are you american or greek-american?

Rogue
08-05-2009, 06:18 PM
So are you american or greek-american?
KBP doesn't have crap to do with american IMHO.

Bob Lanier
08-05-2009, 06:20 PM
According to the link you provided Panathinaikos, Olympiacos, Maroussi, Panellinios, Kolossos Rodou, and Aris have no debt.

Trikala and AEL have 2 months unpaid; Kavala and Panionios have 3; AEK 5; PAOK and Egaleo 6; and Olympia Larissa 7 and a half.

If I'm not mistaken that's 8 out of 14 which have liabilities.

Kill_Bill_Pana
08-05-2009, 06:48 PM
According to the link you provided Panathinaikos, Olympiacos, Maroussi, Panellinios, Kolossos Rodou, and Aris have no debt.

Trikala and AEL have 2 months unpaid; Kavala and Panionios have 3; AEK 5; PAOK and Egaleo 6; and Olympia Larissa 7 and a half.

If I'm not mistaken that's 8 out of 14 which have liabilities.

Those are not Greek League teams.

Also Trikala, Kavala, Panionios, AEK, PAOK have no debts. You are BANNED from the league if you do. Those clubs are all registered in the league, meaning they have paid all debts.

Bob Lanier
08-05-2009, 07:29 PM
Yes, they were A1 Ethniki teams for the 2008-09 season.

Did you even read the link you provided?

Can you read Greek?

Kill_Bill_Pana
08-05-2009, 07:44 PM
Yes, they were A1 Ethniki teams for the 2008-09 season.

Did you even read the link you provided?

Can you read Greek?

Stop being a jerk.

There is no fucking way in hell you would have ever found that without being able to read Greek. How fucking stupid are you?

Bob Lanier
08-05-2009, 08:00 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/82/Ottoman_flag_alternative.svg/800px-Ottoman_flag_alternative.svg.png

ambchang
08-05-2009, 08:28 PM
You fucking idiot. Forbes only lists money held in US assets. All their money is held in Swiss assets.

:lol

http://www.forbes.com/2009/03/16/billionaires-methodology-numbers-2009-billionaires-methodology.html

I couldn't find a fake Greek version for you, but no, it includes all assets, not just money held in US.

And by Swiss assets, do you mean, like illegal $? Stuff like Nazi money? How would you know they are billionaires if they actually take the step to put it in a Swiss account to ensure secrecy? How would any one know? Why would they call themselves billionaire if the whole point of storing money in Swiss bank is to cut the audit trail?

manufan10
08-05-2009, 08:39 PM
http://www.google.com/mapdata?CxXlOCMCHeyqgvog____________AQwt5TgjAjXsqo L6QI4CSLkBUgJVU5ABB8oBAmVu

manufan10
08-05-2009, 08:40 PM
http://pics2.city-data.com/city/maps4/frs224.png

ambchang
08-05-2009, 08:40 PM
For those who are interested, some information on the 51% owner of Olympiakos:
http://cryptome.org/kokkalis-rfi.htm


SOCRATES KOKKALIS: Greece, $1.6 billion, Age: 60. The business: Heads publicly traded Intracom, an electronics- and telecommunications-equipment company big in Greece and the Balkans. An affiliate, Intralot, runs the lottery in Romania and Bulgaria. What's new: Signed a $100 million deal with Lexington, Mass.-based Raytheon to build components for Patriot missiles. Time off: Funds the Socrates Kokkalis Program at Harvard's John F. Kennedy School of Government to study the transition to democracy in the Balkans.

Seemed like he really WAS a billionaire, in 1999. Too bad the tech industry collapsed.

Also, check this:

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/1999/0705/6401176a_print.html

A Forbes article from 1999, maybe they included non-US assets back then?

Kill_Bill_Pana
08-05-2009, 09:55 PM
:lol

http://www.forbes.com/2009/03/16/billionaires-methodology-numbers-2009-billionaires-methodology.html

I couldn't find a fake Greek version for you, but no, it includes all assets, not just money held in US.

And by Swiss assets, do you mean, like illegal $? Stuff like Nazi money? How would you know they are billionaires if they actually take the step to put it in a Swiss account to ensure secrecy? How would any one know? Why would they call themselves billionaire if the whole point of storing money in Swiss bank is to cut the audit trail?

So the New York Times lied?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/12/sports/basketball/12owner.html

Panayiotis and George Angelopoulos are billionaire brothers



Also again, the third owner Kokkalis is also a billionaire. So STFU.

Kill_Bill_Pana
08-05-2009, 09:57 PM
For those who are interested, some information on the 51% owner of Olympiakos:
http://cryptome.org/kokkalis-rfi.htm



Seemed like he really WAS a billionaire, in 1999. Too bad the tech industry collapsed.

Also, check this:

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/1999/0705/6401176a_print.html

A Forbes article from 1999, maybe they included non-US assets back then?

Who the fuck are you? FUCK YOU. You know nothing about this issue and act like you are an authority.

For your information Angelopouloi brothers own one of the biggest steel companies in Europe. They also own one of the biggest shipping companies in Greece.

anakha
08-05-2009, 09:58 PM
Do they own Comcast as well?

Kill_Bill_Pana
08-05-2009, 10:10 PM
For those who are interested, some information on the 51% owner of Olympiakos:
http://cryptome.org/kokkalis-rfi.htm



Seemed like he really WAS a billionaire, in 1999. Too bad the tech industry collapsed.

Also, check this:

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/1999/0705/6401176a_print.html

A Forbes article from 1999, maybe they included non-US assets back then?

Hey moron, on the internet it says Kokkalis had 535 million REVENUES in 2005 from his company. And he owns 49% of that income. What the hell is wrogn with you?


AEK owners = billionaires
Maroussi owners = billionaires
Panathinaikos owners = Giannakouloi family = billionaires

Panionios owner is not a billionaire but he is in something like 250 million dollars himself. You are obviously a xenophobic, ethnocentric, bigot and a hater of the good Hellas.

manufan10
08-05-2009, 10:22 PM
a hater of the good Hellas.

http://blahblogs.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/good-fellas-film-score-3700502.jpg

cnyc3
08-05-2009, 10:37 PM
lol @ kbp getting worked up

FireDavidStern
08-06-2009, 05:49 AM
Hey moron, on the internet it says Kokkalis had 535 million REVENUES in 2005 from his company. And he owns 49% of that income. What the hell is wrogn with you?


AEK owners = billionaires
Maroussi owners = billionaires
Panathinaikos owners = Giannakouloi family = billionaires

Panionios owner is not a billionaire but he is in something like 250 million dollars himself. You are obviously a xenophobic, ethnocentric, bigot and a hater of the good Hellas.

Do you understand basic accounting? Revenues mean shit. Try giving us the COSTS with it or just skip to the end and give us the NET. Also, he would own 49% of the company, not 49% of the NET. The money is still the company's. If the company is doing well and making lots of money (which is what I think you are trying to say) all that indicates is that his share of the company has a higher value and he might get higher dividends. I am not saying your wrong about him being a billionaire, I'm saying for someone claiming to be an authority you get alot of things like this wrong.

Also for someone who is constantly complaining against bigots (your word), you sure seem bigoted against Americans and the NBA. You also breakout into unnecessary and demeaning (FOR YOU) rants involving needless posts and bad usage of vulgar language. If you want to be respected, stop calling everyone else a liar just because they disagree with you, it makes you look 3 years old. Don't needlessly lash out and attack respected members of the board and demand that they get pinked. All you are doing is acting immature and you will be rightfully mocked for it.

However, if you are, as some people claim, just an American troll pretending to be Greek, keep on as you have been. If you really are what you claim to be and are willing to share and debate about that in a reasonable manner, I would welcome you as a potentially valuable member of this board. However that type of respect has to be earned, and your actions have stopped that.

fo'shizzle
08-06-2009, 06:55 AM
You fucking idiot. Forbes only lists money held in US assets. All their money is held in Swiss assets.

Greek Lies

ambchang
08-06-2009, 08:33 AM
So the New York Times lied?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/12/sports/basketball/12owner.html
Panayiotis and George Angelopoulos are billionaire brothers
Also again, the third owner Kokkalis is also a billionaire. So STFU.
You mean the NY Times sports section? This is hilarious, it’s like Forbes magazine ranking the best sports managers, and Kevin McHale was one of them! Would you believe that? I mean, why would anyone go to sports magazines and sections to confirm business facts is just way beyond me.

Who the fuck are you? FUCK YOU. You know nothing about this issue and act like you are an authority.
For your information Angelopouloi brothers own one of the biggest steel companies in Europe. They also own one of the biggest shipping companies in Greece.
It’s great that they are billionaires, fantastic, so? Your research skills are so ridiculously poor. FYI, I already KNEW they were billionaires, I already found sources, reliable ones, that have their estimated worth. By throwing out their net worth from Fortune, I was able to show that you have no sources about anything and anyone related to Greek basketball other than sports news. I am just surprised that someone as “Greek” as you can’t find it.
BTW, you just lost your Greek accent.

Hey moron, on the internet it says Kokkalis had 535 million REVENUES in 2005 from his company. And he owns 49% of that income. What the hell is wrogn with you?
AEK owners = billionaires
Maroussi owners = billionaires
Panathinaikos owners = Giannakouloi family = billionaires
Panionios owner is not a billionaire but he is in something like 250 million dollars himself. You are obviously a xenophobic, ethnocentric, bigot and a hater of the good Hellas.
You do know the difference between revenues, profits and net worth, right? Do you want to look up how much revenue GM had last year? They had a $150 BILLION revenue in 2008, but a loss of $31 billion (I love rounding to the nearest billion). GM was worth nothing shortly thereafter.
And how do you figure I am a xenophobic, ethnocentric, bigot and hater of the good Hellas? I would actually love to go to Greece, it’s a beautiful country from what I heard, people there are nice to the tourists, they have lovely food and beautiful beaches, rich history, and full of culture.

Kill_Bill_Pana
08-06-2009, 01:10 PM
Do you understand basic accounting? Revenues mean shit. Try giving us the COSTS with it or just skip to the end and give us the NET. Also, he would own 49% of the company, not 49% of the NET. The money is still the company's. If the company is doing well and making lots of money (which is what I think you are trying to say) all that indicates is that his share of the company has a higher value and he might get higher dividends. I am not saying your wrong about him being a billionaire, I'm saying for someone claiming to be an authority you get alot of things like this wrong.

Also for someone who is constantly complaining against bigots (your word), you sure seem bigoted against Americans and the NBA. You also breakout into unnecessary and demeaning (FOR YOU) rants involving needless posts and bad usage of vulgar language. If you want to be respected, stop calling everyone else a liar just because they disagree with you, it makes you look 3 years old. Don't needlessly lash out and attack respected members of the board and demand that they get pinked. All you are doing is acting immature and you will be rightfully mocked for it.

However, if you are, as some people claim, just an American troll pretending to be Greek, keep on as you have been. If you really are what you claim to be and are willing to share and debate about that in a reasonable manner, I would welcome you as a potentially valuable member of this board. However that type of respect has to be earned, and your actions have stopped that.

You are an idiot.

Kill_Bill_Pana
08-06-2009, 01:12 PM
You mean the NY Times sports section? This is hilarious, it’s like Forbes magazine ranking the best sports managers, and Kevin McHale was one of them! Would you believe that? I mean, why would anyone go to sports magazines and sections to confirm business facts is just way beyond me.

It’s great that they are billionaires, fantastic, so? Your research skills are so ridiculously poor. FYI, I already KNEW they were billionaires, I already found sources, reliable ones, that have their estimated worth. By throwing out their net worth from Fortune, I was able to show that you have no sources about anything and anyone related to Greek basketball other than sports news. I am just surprised that someone as “Greek” as you can’t find it.
BTW, you just lost your Greek accent.

You do know the difference between revenues, profits and net worth, right? Do you want to look up how much revenue GM had last year? They had a $150 BILLION revenue in 2008, but a loss of $31 billion (I love rounding to the nearest billion). GM was worth nothing shortly thereafter.
And how do you figure I am a xenophobic, ethnocentric, bigot and hater of the good Hellas? I would actually love to go to Greece, it’s a beautiful country from what I heard, people there are nice to the tourists, they have lovely food and beautiful beaches, rich history, and full of culture.

Keep up your racist flame wars and taunts and I will report it. You even admit you are simple trying to flame me and making up lies.

anakha
08-06-2009, 02:12 PM
Let Us Stop Insults Please

ChumpDumper
08-06-2009, 02:12 PM
Why do over half of the Greek teams still owe money to players?

ambchang
08-06-2009, 02:15 PM
Since when is trying to flame you = racist?
Even if an American acting as a Greek is actually a race, flaming you = discrimination? How so?
BTW, please report me, I am just wondering what I said could be pinkable. Perhaps you are an expert on getting pinked, but I am pretty confident that I am not even close to your acts.

Please go on and find more stuff about the billionaire owners.

Kill_Bill_Pana
08-06-2009, 06:21 PM
The person in charge of seeing if players get paid said Pargo is liying and he had got all his money. Olympiacos said they will take him to court.

http://www.sport-fm.gr/article/188679

ChumpDumper
08-06-2009, 06:43 PM
So why have eight Greek teams not paid all their debts?

Kill_Bill_Pana
08-06-2009, 06:57 PM
So why have eight Greek teams not paid all their debts?

So why can you not learn to read?

ChumpDumper
08-06-2009, 07:01 PM
It was right there in the link you provided.

timvp
08-06-2009, 07:54 PM
Hey moron, on the internet it says Kokkalis had 535 million REVENUES in 2005 from his company. And he owns 49% of that income. What the hell is wrogn with you?


AEK owners = billionaires
Maroussi owners = billionaires
Panathinaikos owners = Giannakouloi family = billionaires

Panionios owner is not a billionaire but he is in something like 250 million dollars himself. You are obviously a xenophobic, ethnocentric, bigot and a hater of the good Hellas.

You know everything is not an anecdote. You have to discriminate. You choose things that are funny or mildly amusing or interesting. You're a miracle! Your stories have NONE of that. They're not even amusing ACCIDENTALLY! "Honey, I'd like you to meet KBP, he's got some amusing anecdotes for you. Oh and here's a gun so you can blow your brains out. You'll thank me for it." I could tolerate any insurance seminar. For days I could sit there and listen to them go on and on with a big smile on my face. They'd say, "How can you stand it?" I'd say, "'Cause I've been with KBP. I can take ANYTHING." You know what they'd say? They'd say, "I know what you mean. The Mountain Home greek guy. Woah." It's like going on a date with a Chatty Cathy doll. I expect you have a little string on your chest, you know, that I pull out and have to snap back. Except I wouldn't pull it out and snap it back - you would. Agh! Agh! Agh! Agh! And by the way, you know, when you're telling these little stories? Here's a good idea - have a POINT. It makes it SO much more interesting for the listener!

Kill_Bill_Pana
08-06-2009, 07:58 PM
It was right there in the link you provided.

3 of those teams are not in the league. The other teams have no debts at this day. Because to register for the league by June 1 you must pay all debts and pay the 250,000 euros register fee. The other teams are already registered. So in fact ZERO teams have any debts. LEARN TO READ.

Bob Lanier
08-06-2009, 10:42 PM
3 of those teams are not in the league. The other teams have no debts at this day. Because to register for the league by June 1 you must pay all debts and pay the 250,000 euros register fee. The other teams are already registered. So in fact ZERO teams have any debts. LEARN TO READ.
So why did you link to that lying Jew article?

Kill_Bill_Pana
08-06-2009, 10:45 PM
So why did you link to that lying Jew article?

To show that in the previous time (the time Pargo claimed he did not get paid) the Greek player association ahd already verified all contracts and all Olympiacos were paid.

Also as pointed out already in the other Greek link I give here, his season was already ended and he had got all his money before this even happened.

All around Pargo is a liar, just like it came out Jennings and Delfino were lying about not getting paid. Olympiacos also said they are totally sick of this nonsense from US players, agents, and media making up these lies and they are taking Pargo and any other players making the false claims to court from now on.

Bob Lanier
08-06-2009, 11:53 PM
To show that in the previous time (the time Pargo claimed he did not get paid) the Greek player association ahd already verified all contracts and all Olympiacos were paid.
So the part of the article that supports your position is valid and the part that shows that most 2008-09 A1 league teams are cheating bastards isn't?


All around Pargo is a liar, just like it came out Jennings and Delfino were lying about not getting paid. Olympiacos also said they are totally sick of this nonsense from US players
Delfino is a US player?

they are taking Pargo and any other players making the false claims to court from now on.
Do you have a citation for this?

Bob Lanier
08-06-2009, 11:56 PM
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/4444/turktroll.jpg

Kill_Bill_Pana
08-07-2009, 12:00 AM
So the part of the article that supports your position is valid and the part that shows that most 2008-09 A1 league teams are cheating bastards isn't?


Delfino is a US player?

Do you have a citation for this?

FUCK OFF you go on ignore list too. I am sick of this non stop harassment here by others. I give links over and over proving what i say and I am still called a liar a fake Greek and everything else. Fuck it.

Greg Oden
08-07-2009, 12:58 AM
fuck you, pay me.

MB20
08-13-2009, 11:59 AM
All around Pargo is a liar, just like it came out Jennings and Delfino were lying about not getting paid.

There´s an article on a local newspaper in Buenos Aires stating that Delfino rescinded his contract with Khimki and the Bucks are talking to him.

spursfaninla
08-13-2009, 12:11 PM
eventually, if KBP ignores everybody, and everybody ignores kbp...

would he then cease to exist, or would we?

Lets experiment, and find out.

Spursfan092120
08-13-2009, 12:23 PM
Here's a summary for those of you who don't speak the language.

- Greeks take it up the ass

- Spanoulis was a bench warmer in the NBA. Once again proving Greek league sucks and KBP is jew lies

- Greek teams can't pay their players

- Play in half empty barns

- Jauque Vaughn >>>> Spanoulis
:lmao:lmao
Actually, Panathinaikos just paid for a brand new court...it's pretty impressive...

http://s3.amazonaws.com/wootsaleimages/USB_Arcade_Basketball_Game86yDetail.jpg

DUNCANownsKOBE2
08-13-2009, 12:35 PM
It's funny that whenever KBP gets mad he forgets to type in his crappy English.

ata
08-13-2009, 12:39 PM
Do you understand basic accounting? Revenues mean shit. ...

KBP and his brother went down the street. KBP's brother stops and said: "Look KBP, a pile of sheet."
KBP: "It is not sheet, all lies."
Brother: "It is sheet."
KBP: "All lies."
Brother: "I give you 100 EUR if you eat a piece."
KBP ate, brother gave him money.
KBP: "You right, is sheet - now I give you 100 EUR if you eat piece."
Brother ate piece and got money.

After a while KBP's brother said: "Hm, we've just eaten sheet and earned nothing."
KBP answers: "You are right, however we had 200 EUR revenue, each!"

Spursfan092120
08-13-2009, 03:06 PM
FUCK OFF you go on ignore list too. I am sick of this non stop harassment here by others. I give links over and over proving what i say and I am still called a liar a fake Greek and everything else. Fuck it.
liar....fake Greek

The Franchise
08-13-2009, 03:11 PM
So having a contract doesn't guarantee you get paid? :(

Kill_Bill_Pana
08-13-2009, 08:28 PM
So having a contract doesn't guarantee you get paid? :(

Don't believe these stupid fucking liars. Of course the players get paid. Only the dumbest people around would believe these players don't get paid and yet the NBA players and agents keep coming back and signing with the same teams.

Some people are so stupid it is disturbing.

ChumpDumper
08-13-2009, 08:36 PM
They always get paid except when they don't.

KBP proved that.

Kill_Bill_Pana
08-13-2009, 08:38 PM
They always get paid except when they don't.

KBP proved that.

Hey dumb ass. Today Greek league passed a new rule that any player that misses a payment on time will automatically get paid immediately from the TV revenues of the clubs.

So you can STFU. Any time you make such a claim about a player not being paid in Greece by ANY TEAM from now on it will be A LIE.

ChumpDumper
08-13-2009, 08:39 PM
So that means players haven't been paid.

Thanks for proving that again!

mavs>spurs2
08-13-2009, 08:47 PM
Hey dumb ass. Today Greek league passed a new rule that any player that misses a payment on time will automatically get paid immediately from the TV revenues of the clubs.

So you can STFU. Any time you make such a claim about a player not being paid in Greece by ANY TEAM from now on it will be A LIE.

don't you ever sleep? isn't it like night time in greece?

Rogue
08-13-2009, 09:07 PM
So that means players haven't been paid.

Thanks for proving that again!
Players don't get paid for playing games in the country where KBP lives.

mogrovejo
08-14-2009, 11:25 AM
KBP and his brother went down the street. KBP's brother stops and said: "Look KBP, a pile of sheet."
KBP: "It is not sheet, all lies."
Brother: "It is sheet."
KBP: "All lies."
Brother: "I give you 100 EUR if you eat a piece."
KBP ate, brother gave him money.
KBP: "You right, is sheet - now I give you 100 EUR if you eat piece."
Brother ate piece and got money.

After a while KBP's brother said: "Hm, we've just eaten sheet and earned nothing."
KBP answers: "You are right, however we had 200 EUR revenue, each!"

Oh the irony...

ambchang
08-14-2009, 11:35 AM
Hey dumb ass. Today Greek league passed a new rule that any player that misses a payment on time will automatically get paid immediately from the TV revenues of the clubs.

So you can STFU. Any time you make such a claim about a player not being paid in Greece by ANY TEAM from now on it will be A LIE.

Why would they pass a rule like that if players were getting paid in the past?

Kill_Bill_Pana
08-14-2009, 04:15 PM
Why would they pass a rule like that if players were getting paid in the past?

For ALL teams idiot. Olympiacos is not ALL teams.

redzero
08-14-2009, 04:25 PM
Is it me, or is KBP the only one who cares about this crap?

Bob Lanier
08-14-2009, 05:00 PM
For ALL teams idiot. Olympiacos is not ALL teams.
No, according to you they're NOT one of the majority of teams who even high Greek League sweep-it-under-the-rug muckety-mucks can't plausibly deny cheat their players.

Bob Lanier
08-14-2009, 05:01 PM
Is it me, or is KBP the only one who cares about this crap?
The only one who isn't actually in Greece, probably.

Bob Lanier
08-14-2009, 05:02 PM
Which is a shame, really. Greece is a much nicer place than anywhere in the U.S. that isn't New York City or Chicago. I pity KBP, fighting so hard for something he'll never personally experience.

redzero
08-14-2009, 05:09 PM
The only one who isn't actually in Greece, probably.

Then, why does he act like he's a foreigner?

exstatic
08-14-2009, 09:04 PM
KBP and his brother went down the street. KBP's brother stops and said: "Look KBP, a pile of sheet."
KBP: "It is not sheet, all lies."
Brother: "It is sheet."
KBP: "All lies."
Brother: "I give you 100 EUR if you eat a piece."
KBP ate, brother gave him money.
KBP: "You right, is sheet - now I give you 100 EUR if you eat piece."
Brother ate piece and got money.

After a while KBP's brother said: "Hm, we've just eaten sheet and earned nothing."
KBP answers: "You are right, however we had 200 EUR revenue, each!"
That's just SO much win.....
:lmao