Patrick Crayton All Ready Given The #2 Spot

[PaulGreco]

LINK (http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/08/patrick-crayton-has-firm-grasp-of-no-2-w.html)

So the competition is over before it even starts.



There is no competition for the starting job opposite of Roy Williams, according to receivers coach Ray Sherman.
It's Patrick Crayton's job.

That's no knock on Miles Austin, the speed threat many thought would challenge Crayton for the role. Austin is off to a good start in camp, but Sherman believes that the more experienced, consistent Crayton has earned the right to start.

"Patrick is the guy right now," Sherman said. "Patrick is having a very good camp, and I think the guys are really in tune. They don't care about who starts. The only thing we want to do is be productive and help this team get to where we want to go, and that's basically where the focus is now."

Every where I look, San Antonio's own, Sam Herd isn't even in the conversation. Although Sam does a decent job with his SAM CAM on News 4, that seems to be the only thing he's good at.

--PG

[samikeyp]

"Patrick is the guy right now"

I think that is the key. He has the most experience of the WR's not named Roy. It makes sense at this stage of camp but if Austin or Hurd outplay him, they will get their shot. Hell, I hope Crayton can become consistent for a change.

[Whisky Dog]

Sam Hurd has performed the best out of all WR in camp so far according to most media people.

[PaulGreco]

Whisky -- do you have a source? I'm hearing mixed reviews.

--PG

[jack sommerset]

The Cowboys have some shitty WR's. Good news is they have two good TE and 3 good RB and a QB that can create. Should have never paid Williams all that cash and let T.O go. Stupid. Go get a vet.

[DBryant88]

The Cowboys have some shitty WR's. Good news is they have two good TE and 3 good RB and a QB that can create. Should have never paid Williams all that cash and let T.O go. Stupid. Go get a vet.

Williams is a proven reciever and T.O. was more headache than he was worth

[manufan10]

I've hear rumors that the Cowboys might be interested in Matt Jones if the other guys don't really step up. Should be interesting.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Williams is a proven reciever and T.O. was more headache than he was worth

He really proved himself last season.

[manufan10]

He really proved himself last season.

Supposedly he had plantar flascitis (sp?). Anyways, I agree that the Cowboys shouldn't have let go T.O. He wasn't their problem. If anything, everyone should have had a sit down talk, discuss the situation. Let the T.O./Williams thing work out for one full year and see what happens. See how it produces. Then, if you're still having "problems" with T.O., you can release him. It works out better, IMO.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Supposedly he had plantar flascitis (sp?). Anyways, I agree that the Cowboys shouldn't have let go T.O. He wasn't their problem. If anything, everyone should have had a sit down talk, discuss the situation. Let the T.O./Williams thing work out for one full year and see what happens. See how it produces. Then, if you're still having "problems" with T.O., you can release him. It works out better, IMO.

You are the first Cowboy fan I've heard admit that T.O. wasn't the problem. Finally someone that is almost not a ridiculous homer.

[PaulGreco]

If anything, everyone should have had a sit down talk, discuss the situation. Let the T.O./Williams thing work out for one full year and see what happens.

Let's hug it out BITCHES!!!

--PG

[samikeyp]

You are the first Cowboy fan I've heard admit that T.O. wasn't the problem. Finally someone that is almost not a ridiculous homer.

Lies.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Lies.

Well besides you Mikey. That goes without saying though.

[samikeyp]

Ok...that's better! :lol

[manufan10]

Let's hug it out BITCHES!!!

--PG

:tu

:lol

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

How's the new and improved RW looking? Let me guess: All world one practice and the worst WR on the field the next.

[Dr. Gonzo]

He is a Longhorn and a Cowboy. He is the greatest WR in the league.

[samikeyp]

Dude was hurt and had half a season last year. He is healthy now and will have a full training camp to prove to me he can be a real #1. So far, I am not convinced.

[manufan10]

He is a Longhorn and a Cowboy. He is the greatest WR in the league.

I hate the Longhorns, so that brings him down a couple of notches.. maybe 3 or 4.

:lol

We'll see what happens, I don't think Roy will even put up close to the same numbers as T.O. From what I've read, they're focusing on using all of their weapons now, and using more two tight end sets. I would still love to have T.O. on the team, but it's not going to happen, so we need to make do with what the Cowboys have. If those guys don't live up to expectations during Training Camp, I'm looking for the Cowboys to pick up a veteran through free agency.

[Whisky Dog]

Whisky -- do you have a source? I'm hearing mixed reviews.

--PG

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/news.cfm?id=E132DF0C-A361-B69C-B73950DA81313833
MICHAEL KASECAMP - FROSTBURG, MD: All I keep hearing when it comes to the Cowboys right now is how "shaky" their receiving corps is. What I see is an unselfish group of unproven players waiting to make their mark on this team. Do you guys see any truth to this or are you concerned about the position as well?

Rob: I've always thought the criticism was a little overblown -- as long as Miles Austin and Sam Hurd stay healthy. Hurd arguably has been the most impressive receiver in camp so far. Austin has made some plays as well. Can Roy Williams replace all of Terrell Owens' production? Maybe not, but they'll try to offset some of it with the run, two-tight end sets featuring what looks like a much-improved Martellus Bennett, and Felix Jones as a receiving threat. You're going to see a different offense this year. Will it be better? We'll see. A lot of it will depend on Tony Romo's protection.




That's one DC.com writers perspective and there are others if you dig through the camp archives. I also heard Irvin say the same thing on his radio show but obviously I don't have a link for that.

[jack sommerset]

Williams is a proven reciever and T.O. was more headache than he was worth

Not being a DICK but how has Williams proven he is a number one reciever in this league worth the amount of money they signed this guy for? Believe me....I like the Cowboys and I think they have just as good as chance as anyone in the NFC to win but not because of Roy Williams.

[Warlord23]

LOL Cowboys ... not to worry, Miles Austin is your savior this year. He will ensure you get at least an 8-8 record and finish no less than 3rd .....

.... in your division

[scottspurs]

I have gone to everyday of camp so far here in SA and I would rank the recievers in the following order:

1. Sam Hurd: He looks great out there. Best route runner on the team and he has excellent hands.

2. Patrick Crayton: He definetly shows that he know the offense better than everyone else.

3. Miles Austin: He is getting open with ease, but he is dropping to many balls.

4. Kevin Olgetree: This young receiver is looking great out there. He looks like the best route runner out there and he hasn't dropped a pass.

5. Roy Williams: He doesn't look as good as he should right now. He is dropping to many passes and I don't think he knows the entire offense yet.

6. Jesse Holley: On pure talent he looks just as good as any of the receivers out there, but he doesn't know any of the offense at all.

7. Willie Reed: He is the Fastest reciever out there and he could be a great kick returner.

I don't think any of the other recievers have a shot at making the team including Isaih Stanback who is hurt again of course. I also believe they will only take 5 or 6 of the WRs that I listed. I really hope Olgetree makes the team because he looks great out there. I think Reed and Holley may be the odd men out.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

5. Roy Williams: He doesn't look as good as he should right now. He is dropping to many passes and I don't think he knows the entire offense yet.



Yeah, that sounds like the WR I know.

Just one of those uber-talented guys who never seems to quite get it.

[mardigan]

I've hear rumors that the Cowboys might be interested in Matt Jones if the other guys don't really step up. Should be interesting.

I haven't heard anything about this, but I would love it to be true. Shit head Jerry needs to make this move.

[Spursfan092120]

How's the new and improved RW looking? Let me guess: All world one practice and the worst WR on the field the next.
Besides a few amazing catches here and there, Roy Williams has looked like shit this camp. I'm hoping this changes come regular season, though...as are all Cowboys fans.

[Spursfan092120]

Just one of those uber-talented guys who never seems to quite get it.
:depressed:depressed
Unfortunately, so far, you're dead on. On a different note, I drafted Pettigrew on my Fantasy team, so I hope he has a great season.

[Spursfan092120]

Hurd has been phenomenal from the few camps I've been to. The guy is catching everything...I mean, EVERYTHING. It's amazing. Unfortunately, everything I'm hearing has him fighting for the 3 spot with Austin...

[Dr. Gonzo]

I haven't heard anything about this, but I would love it to be true. Shit head Jerry needs to make this move.

Matt Jones is a terrible WR. Besides his blazing speed and size he doesn't really do anything else really well. Except for cutting up coke. He does that really well.

[Whisky Dog]

Matt Jones is the master of the back seat bump

[manufan10]

:lmao

I think Matt Jones is more proven than Hurd or Austin, I think that's why he's been mentioned or linked to the Cowboys. That and being from Arkansas, Jerry Jones alma mater.

[Obstructed_View]

Crayton's already threatening for the number one spot. Austin and Hurd will be competing with Roy for 2 before long.

[Spursfan092120]

A friend of mine went to camp Wednesday and said Roy had a GREAT day at camp. It's about time.

[manufan10]

I'll be heading to camp next week. Anyone have the details about the schedule and if there's any cost?

[Go For Tree]

Whisky -- do you have a source? I'm hearing mixed reviews.

--PG

ummm, how about you list some sources of these "mixied reviews". Sam Hurd (not Herd, maybe thats why u havent heard anything....) has received high praise from Sherman, Wade, Romo, and Terrence newman all in seperate interviews..... If anything, Sam Cam is the shittiest part of his camp....

[Go For Tree]

I'll be heading to camp next week. Anyone have the details about the schedule and if there's any cost?

www.dallascowboys.com
Scroll down and click on the training camp logo for practice times. Addmission is free but the parking at the dome will cost you a 10 spot and the beer there is 5.75 16oz bottle or 6.00 for 24oz draft. Do like my buddy and i did, and buy a couple tall boys before you go and drink them in the parking lot.

[Go For Tree]

I have gone to everyday of camp so far here in SA and I would rank the recievers in the following order:

1. Sam Hurd: He looks great out there. Best route runner on the team and he has excellent hands.

2. Patrick Crayton: He definetly shows that he know the offense better than everyone else.

3. Miles Austin: He is getting open with ease, but he is dropping to many balls.

4. Kevin Olgetree: This young receiver is looking great out there. He looks like the best route runner out there and he hasn't dropped a pass.

5. Roy Williams: He doesn't look as good as he should right now. He is dropping to many passes and I don't think he knows the entire offense yet.

6. Jesse Holley: On pure talent he looks just as good as any of the receivers out there, but he doesn't know any of the offense at all.

7. Willie Reed: He is the Fastest reciever out there and he could be a great kick returner.

I don't think any of the other recievers have a shot at making the team including Isaih Stanback who is hurt again of course. I also believe they will only take 5 or 6 of the WRs that I listed. I really hope Olgetree makes the team because he looks great out there. I think Reed and Holley may be the odd men out.

i confuse

[TheTruth]

This Tree fella isn't a nice guy!!!!

[manufan10]

www.dallascowboys.com
Scroll down and click on the training camp logo for practice times. Addmission is free but the parking at the dome will cost you a 10 spot and the beer there is 5.75 16oz bottle or 6.00 for 24oz draft. Do like my buddy and i did, and buy a couple tall boys before you go and drink them in the parking lot.

Thanks for the info. :tu

[Go For Tree]

This Tree fella isn't a nice guy!!!!

well i cant really argue when your name is TheTruth can i????

but hey, whats wrong with telling a guy how to save money by drinking a couple cold ones illeagally in the parking lot before practice starts??

and btw, the vegas fund has officially started.... we should convince elton to tie the knot while were up there. :married:

[Nathan Explosion]

We'll see what happens, I don't think Roy will even put up close to the same numbers as T.O. From what I've read, they're focusing on using all of their weapons now, and using more two tight end sets. I would still love to have T.O. on the team, but it's not going to happen, so we need to make do with what the Cowboys have. If those guys don't live up to expectations during Training Camp, I'm looking for the Cowboys to pick up a veteran through free agency.

With T.O. on the team, the offense wouldn't be able to utilize all the weapons. Once the guy came out crying that Witten and Romo were drawing up secret plays, that was the last straw for me.

He's a tremendous talent, and I think he got a bad rap for dropping balls (as some of the "drops" weren't catchable in the least. However, after a while, you could tell that Romo was forcing balls to T.O. Something had to give, and in the NFL, QBs are king.

T.O.'s personality was starting to wear on the offense by all accounts. The defense was siding with him (as they do on every team) but I suspect it's because the defense isn't in the same huddle as him and aren't on the sideline at the same time for most of the game. So they tend to miss most of his antics as well.

While some fans want to absolve T.O., the thing is, this is the third team that has complained about him tearing the locker room apart. How many times does it have to happen before people start to realize that it really is the player and not the media blowing things out of proportion every single time. He may be targeted unfairly, but the script in Dallas was the same as in Philly and SF.

As for Matt Jones, the Cowboys have come out and said an emphatic NO.

[manufan10]

I disagree. Sure there was disagreements, and times where Romo tried to force things to T.O. However, these are issues that can be resolved. You're just not going to get the same numbers from other receivers. The "experts" think that the Cowboys offense won't even come close to what it was with T.O. Again, as I said earlier, give the T.O./Williams tandem one full year to co-exist. If it doesn't work, then you can release T.O. The next year you will have a Roy who has more experience and would be more capable of being a number one guy. Right now, the Cowboys don't really have a receiving corp that scares anyone. It's talented, however, it's very untested. Even if they produce big numbers I will still be against the release of T.O. If Romo was forcing balls to T.O. then that's on Romo, not T.O. T.O. is just made to be the scapegoat. He's being blamed for this team underachieving last year. I'd take T.O. on my team any day. At least I know the production I'll get on the field. He may have issues, but come game day, he produces like almost no other.

[TheTruth]

well i cant really argue when your name is TheTruth can i????

but hey, whats wrong with telling a guy how to save money by drinking a couple cold ones illeagally in the parking lot before practice starts??

and btw, the vegas fund has officially started.... we should convince elton to tie the knot while were up there. :married:
Oh man dude, that would be classic. We really should.