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M-1 Global: "Breakthrough" no longer in California according to Josh Gross on "Gross Point Blank":
"Muhammed "King Mo" Lawal and Don Frye were announced as the evening's headliners."
"Bill Douglas of the [CSAC] said that they hadn't heard a thing regarding the show," Gross said. "The original party involved informed them that the event was not happening, and they could take it off the schedule. There had been some meetings and some deadlines set, but those deadlines passed."
"Gross' report indicates that M-1 initially sought to relocate the show to Nevada."
... "I've never talked to anyone at M-1," Keith Kizer said. "'They need to get licensed."
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good luck Fedor
Vadim is awesome. lol
dbreiden83080
08-06-2009, 12:14 AM
. "I've never talked to anyone at M-1," Keith Kizer said. "'They need to get licensed."
LMFAO :lol
Oh man M1 is a joke. A total and complete Joke. Does Fedor's manager have some incriminating pics of him or something?? What the hell is he still doing with this clown??
it simply makes no sense to me.
When its all said and done I guarantee it will come out that Fedor never saw something like 30% of his money.
dbreiden83080
08-06-2009, 12:18 AM
Fedor is throwing his career away. Nobody cares about this deal with Strikeforce. His fights there, will go largely unnoticed by anyone who is not a die-hard MMA fan. He's almost 33, the clock is ticking on his legacy..
he will end up a legend only worshiped by the die hards who got financially raped like boxers working under Don King.
It would appear even Aleks agree's.
dbreiden83080
08-06-2009, 12:31 AM
he will end up a legend only worshiped by the die hards who got financially raped like boxers working under Don King.
It would appear even Aleks agree's.
UFC 101 is a good example of the machine of marketing and hype the UFC is. BJ Penn just lost the biggest fight of his career against GSP. Now thanks to the hype created by the UFC, the story is "Can he bounce back big and defend his LW title against Kenny Florian" In any other organization nobody cares about this fight but the UFC. Like almost all UFC events it's set to rake in a great PPV buy-rate. It makes stars and creates story-lines. Fedor is missing out..
Stringer_Bell
08-06-2009, 02:47 AM
It makes stars and creates story-lines. Fedor is missing out..
Any chance that might be a reason why Fedor appears to be avoiding the UFC? I love the storyline aspect of it, but there's always the concern of it going WWE style (a la Brock's UFC 100 speech) and mangling someone's character. It's been said before that Fedor cares about his legacy as a person, so I'm just thinking that maybe the monetary price of his "storyline" might be, to him and his management, worthy of co-promotion.
But yea, M1 is a joke and without the name recognition of Fedor's Affliction opponents, I can't see Strikeforce getting anything near the Afflication PPV buys or publicity.
djohn14
08-06-2009, 11:53 AM
I want King Mo in the UFC RIGHT NOW!
oligarchy
08-06-2009, 12:16 PM
Fedor is throwing his career away. Nobody cares about this deal with Strikeforce. His fights there, will go largely unnoticed by anyone who is not a die-hard MMA fan. He's almost 33, the clock is ticking on his legacy..
Exactly. As I've stated, outside of the Fedor fanatics, he's largely irrelevant despite being heralded as the #1 HW. If he was in the UFC and won the title, it would "cement" his legacy, he'd go into the UFC Hall, etc. He'd be known. As it stands, he'll go unnoticed and many won't know who he is in 5 years.
Even though Frank Shamrock is out of UFC, I know many noobs know who he is simply because they wanted to be "in the know" about UFC. What did they do? They went an got old UFC dvds, downloads, etc. They didn't go, "maybe we should get old Pride videos."
When UFC is becoming used as a verb, you know it's popularity is growning -- akin to Xerox becoming a verb. E.g., even in small shows, they are Ultimate Fighting.
Any chance that might be a reason why Fedor appears to be avoiding the UFC? I love the storyline aspect of it, but there's always the concern of it going WWE style (a la Brock's UFC 100 speech) and mangling someone's character. It's been said before that Fedor cares about his legacy as a person, so I'm just thinking that maybe the monetary price of his "storyline" might be, to him and his management, worthy of co-promotion.
But yea, M1 is a joke and without the name recognition of Fedor's Affliction opponents, I can't see Strikeforce getting anything near the Afflication PPV buys or publicity.
It's hard to say the reasoning. Maybe he doesn't want to deal with that competition (or maybe his management didn't want him to deal with that competition)? He was lied to by his Management? I don't think anyone will ever know.
I don't see it either, and if Fedor is being paid anywhere near top dollar, SF isn't going to last long unless their CBS shows go big and pull in tons of advertising dollars. I just don't see that happening. Even though Kimbo's show was the highest rated, it still was a financial flop. I see SF going the way of the buffalo.
I want King Mo in the UFC RIGHT NOW!
Him and Rampage can get it on, but Mo needs more fights first.
From Joe Silva:
I just touched base with Joe Silva and he explained this is basically what happened regarding Mousasi:
Mousasi called him Saturday because he suspected he had been lied to by his manager, Appy Echteld, regarding an offer of $40,000/$40,000 from the UFC and then encouraged to accept an offer from Strikeforce. According to what Mousasi shared, that amount was less than half of the purse agreement he had with Affliction but he trusted his manager and signed with Strikeforce. The UFC would have honored the Affliction deal of $125,000 purse plus win bonus had Mousasi signed with them.
Contrary to the claim made today by M-1 that Mousasi was on the phone during negotiations with Joe Silva for his services, Joe adamantly denies that is true. Had that been the case, there would have been no reason for Mousasi to call Joe to question Echteld’s claim of a $40,000/$40,000 offer from the UFC.
Appy called Joe yesterday to discuss the issue and Joe told him he knew he lied to Mousasi about the offer because Mousasi personally called him because he suspected that was the case. Appy then said there must have been some big misunderstanding because Mousasi wasn’t ready for the UFC because it’s the top of the food chain but thinks he will be one day (Mousasi’s record is 25-2-1, he’s on a 9 win streak with his last bout ending in rd. 1 VS Mark Hunt via armbar).
Joe approved the release of these details of our conversation.
Cindy
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/?go=forum_framed.frame&forum=1&thread=1502915&page=1&pc=22
oligarchy
08-06-2009, 08:45 PM
M-1 is awesome.
but but but but competition makes salaries SKY ROCKET!!!!!
polandprzem
08-07-2009, 01:40 AM
Ehhh we all need to stop crying
Ehhh we all need to stop crying
it might take Mousasi time to get over it.
oligarchy
08-07-2009, 11:33 AM
watch his numbers be 80/80 when the UFC was going to give him 125/125
watch his numbers be 80/80 when the UFC was going to give him 125/125
I think its 45/45 plus whatever bonus he can get that night.
"On Wednesday, word started to circulate that something wacky had happened regarding Gegard Mousasi’s negotiations with Strikeforce. The gist was that Gegard’s management hadn’t been honest about how much money the UFC had offered him. At first I thought this was another UFC attempt to drive a wedge between a fighter and their management, especially since Mousasi’s management was M-1 Global. But it turns out the UFC wasn’t involved in the situation at all.
Get this: After signing with Strikeforce, Gegard personally called the UFC to find out what they had offered his management … I guess all that “Fedor doesn’t know what’s really being offered” talk had him wondering if he was in a similar position. Now here’s where things get fucked up: Gegard was told by M-1 that the UFC had offered him 40k/40k. It turns out that the UFC never made ANY offer for Mousasi, but if negotiations had taken place then they would have offered to match his Affliction contract (worth around 125k).
M-1 claimed that the 40/40 number was given to them from ‘a source inside the UFC’, whatever the fuck that means. True or not, that’s not really how managers are supposed to handle business and at best it makes M-1 look incompetant (for the second time today) and at worst it makes them look like dishonest fuckers who lied to Mousasi to get him to sign the deal THEY wanted him to sign."
http://www.fightlinker.com/the-mousasi-plot-thickens.mma
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Imagine how bad Fedor is being screwed...
LEONARD
08-08-2009, 01:17 PM
They might've cost Mousasi tens of thousands...and Fedor millions?
If true it could be the best thing to happen to Fedor, assuming he's get away from Vadim and co...
BlackSwordsMan
08-08-2009, 01:39 PM
if only fedor wasn't born with retardism I wonder who he would be fighting right now in the UFC
BlackSwordsMan
08-08-2009, 01:39 PM
oh yeah lesnar
LEONARD
08-08-2009, 01:42 PM
*stays onsides*
BlackSwordsMan
08-08-2009, 01:46 PM
did fedor's management tell you to do that?
LEONARD
08-08-2009, 01:47 PM
Is that supposed to make sense??
BlackSwordsMan
08-08-2009, 01:55 PM
that's what fedor should be asking his management
BlackSwordsMan
08-08-2009, 01:55 PM
''I took less money and lost a lot of popularity to fight in an organization that can't even email nevada for a fighting license''
''does that mean sense?''
They might've cost Mousasi tens of thousands...and Fedor millions?
If true it could be the best thing to happen to Fedor, assuming he's get away from Vadim and co...
give him a few fights they might have cost Mousasi a hundred grand easy.
LEONARD
08-10-2009, 11:34 AM
“M-1 Breakthrough” Moved to Kansas City, Fedor to Spar Mousasi
Following the near-collapse of it’s first “Breakthrough” event, M-1 Global has moved it’s scheduled Aug. 28 show from the Los Angeles Convention Center to Kansas City, Kan.’s Memorial Hall. The show will feature a main event of Mohammed “King Mo” Lawal vs. Mark Kerr. Lawal was scheduled to face Don Frye, who according to M-1 Global, backed out of the fight after it was moved. The card will also feature the stateside debut of Karl “Psycho” Amoussou as he fights Nick “The Goat” Thompson.
In an unexpected twist, the show will host a sparring match between Fedor Emelianenko and Gegard Mousasi. Says Joost Raimond, M-1 Global Chief Operating Officer: “We were blown away by just how popular Fedor’s exhibition vs. Aoki in Japan was,” said Raimond. “Fedor and Gegard have sparred many times together and the sessions have always been intense. Now fight fans watching on television and those attending live in Kansas City will get a rare glimpse at two of the best fighters in the world sparring each other.”
WOOHOO!! Fedor sparring FTW
Go ahead and pile on like people did when he had his exhibition with Aoki in Japan...lol
polandprzem
08-10-2009, 01:46 PM
“M-1 Breakthrough” Moved to Kansas City, Fedor to Spar Mousasi
Following the near-collapse of it’s first “Breakthrough” event, M-1 Global has moved it’s scheduled Aug. 28 show from the Los Angeles Convention Center to Kansas City, Kan.’s Memorial Hall. The show will feature a main event of Mohammed “King Mo” Lawal vs. Mark Kerr. Lawal was scheduled to face Don Frye, who according to M-1 Global, backed out of the fight after it was moved. The card will also feature the stateside debut of Karl “Psycho” Amoussou as he fights Nick “The Goat” Thompson.
In an unexpected twist, the show will host a sparring match between Fedor Emelianenko and Gegard Mousasi. Says Joost Raimond, M-1 Global Chief Operating Officer: “We were blown away by just how popular Fedor’s exhibition vs. Aoki in Japan was,” said Raimond. “Fedor and Gegard have sparred many times together and the sessions have always been intense. Now fight fans watching on television and those attending live in Kansas City will get a rare glimpse at two of the best fighters in the world sparring each other.”
WOOHOO!! Fedor sparring FTW
Go ahead and pile on like people did when he had his exhibition with Aoki in Japan...lol
It's all good man. It seems that Fedor will do exhibitions now, not fighting.
Nice
LEONARD
08-10-2009, 02:08 PM
He's done exhibitions before...
Sambo in Korea...grappling with Aoki in Japan (I think?)...
It's nothing new and he'll be fighting this fall. Unless this sparring session has replaced his fight...maybe you know something I don't...
polandprzem
08-10-2009, 03:30 PM
He's done exhibitions before...
Sambo in Korea...grappling with Aoki in Japan (I think?)...
It's nothing new and he'll be fighting this fall. Unless this sparring session has replaced his fight...maybe you know something I don't...
well we all know that Fedor fights 1.5 fights a year.
What an easy job he has.
LEONARD
08-10-2009, 03:49 PM
Interesting...
31 fights in 9 yrs = 3.4 / yr
Just looking at 2005+ gives you 9 fights in 4.5 yrs = 2 / yr
Math fail...just posting the facts I'm supposed to post... :fro
and not his fault Barnett was roiding either...or that he broke his hand in '06...or that Pride failed...etc etc
BJ - 2005+ = 9 fights
Hughes - 2005+ = 9 fights
polandprzem
08-10-2009, 03:53 PM
I was looking 3 last years, I'm sorry I didn't look up into the history.
I wanted to speak about him present not past
LEONARD
08-10-2009, 04:12 PM
6 fights / 3 yr = 2 per yr
2.3 if Barnett wasn't roiding
LEONARD
08-10-2009, 04:22 PM
Wait wait...lemme save your the trouble...
Less HMC and Lindland...
4 in 3 = 1.3 / yr...you were right :toast
1.6 if Barnett wasn't roiding
polandprzem
08-10-2009, 04:26 PM
We've got twice 2006
twice 2007
once 2008
once 2009
You are overreacting like a kid, you can't get my point and you are getting pissed or something/ WTF?
LEONARD
08-10-2009, 04:34 PM
We've got twice 2006
twice 2007
once 2008
once 2009
You are overreacting like a kid, you can't get my point and you are getting pissed or something/ WTF?
Oct '06 to Aug '09 is just under 3 yrs...not 4 yrs.
Just correcting your exaggeration of the truth with facts...couldn't be further from pissed actually...
polandprzem
08-10-2009, 04:46 PM
What the heck?
You will be bitching about two months about 0.1 and other meaningless stuff?
I don't want to conversate on that. He just not fighting enough IMO and that's my point. He fought once in 2008 and once 2009 I mean come on.
But quit it.
I have always thought that in a fight vs Choi they did not allow knees.
Now I've read that only the knees on the ground were prohibited.
LEONARD
08-10-2009, 04:52 PM
Math fail...
'09 isn't over and Barnett/Affliction F'd him
LEONARD
08-10-2009, 04:52 PM
DK_rNzb0xsY
polandprzem
08-10-2009, 04:55 PM
Math fail...
'09 isn't over and Barnett/Affliction F'd him
So?
He is being fucked all the time and 2009 fight is a big if.
Christ :rolleyes
math fail jeeez :rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes
LEONARD
08-10-2009, 04:56 PM
Huge math fail...
Why is a SF fight this fall a big if??
polandprzem
08-10-2009, 05:00 PM
Huge math fail...
Why is a SF fight this fall a big if??
Are you giving youreself a trophy for being a mathematical genius?
math
once 2008 once 2009
1+1=2
hahaha
You know the future huh? You know that Fedor will fight in fall and for his credit you will be counting his fight with barnett, so what the plans would be different but you will coun that fight. That's your math - counting the fights that never happened or might not happen. Bravo
polandprzem
08-10-2009, 05:02 PM
dk_rnzb0xsy
:fight
LEONARD
08-10-2009, 05:05 PM
Are you giving youreself a trophy for being a mathematical genius?
math
once 2008 once 2009
1+1=2
hahaha
You know the future huh? You know that Fedor will fight in fall and for his credit you will be counting his fight with barnett, so what the plans would be different but you will coun that fight. That's your math - counting the fights that never happened or might not happen. Bravo
Yes, I'm having a trophy made right now actually...
I don't know the future but was curious why you're doubting that he'll fight for SF in the next 4 months? Maybe you had some inside info to share or something. I didn't count a fall fight in that 3 yr span, but I can work the math out if you'd like me to...lemme know.
I didn't count Josh in order to prove your math as being failed...it failed without Josh being included.
polandprzem
08-10-2009, 05:18 PM
Yes, I'm having a trophy made right now actually...
I don't know the future but was curious why you're doubting that he'll fight for SF in the next 4 months? Maybe you had some inside info to share or something. I didn't count a fall fight in that 3 yr span, but I can work the math out if you'd like me to...lemme know.
I didn't count Josh in order to prove your math as being failed...it failed without Josh being included.
Still you missing my point. YOu had logic lessons in school or just math?
I don't give a fuck if it's 1.5 or 1.7 or even 2.1
Takeing the whole 2007 and whole 2009 with your fall fight makes it 5 in 3 years.
Fuck the corect numbers it's just not much for the best HW in the world. RU agree on that one or you will still be fricking talking about math ?
Just say if it's enough for you?
LEONARD
08-10-2009, 05:31 PM
Mostly math...
You said the last 3 yrs, so that's what I used...you set the math rules for me but your logic might've been flawed in doing so?
You forgot Aoki anyway...
http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/20090503082623_200904290776.JPG
http://promma.info/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/fedor-submits-aoki.jpg
polandprzem
08-10-2009, 05:49 PM
I wonder when Lesnar will do exhibitions with Faber, Torres or Mike Brown?
btw. I asked a simple question, you failed to answer. You are not good in answering the questions.
polandprzem
08-10-2009, 05:50 PM
I set the math rules :lol
LEONARD
08-10-2009, 05:54 PM
I wonder when Lesnar will do exhibitions with Faber, Torres or Mike Brown?
btw. I asked a simple question, you failed to answer. You are not good in answering the questions.
No I said...do I love...maybe I didn't understand the question?
LEONARD
08-10-2009, 05:55 PM
i set the math rules :lol
i was looking 3 last years
true
polandprzem
08-10-2009, 06:07 PM
Next time when I will wish somebody happy birthday I would have to be more carefull not to get involved in mathematical task because of seting math rules :rolleyes
You feel you've defended Fedor good with you math? (not arguments)
LEONARD
08-10-2009, 06:18 PM
Next time when I will wish somebody happy birthday I would have to be more carefull not to get involved in mathematical task because of seting math rules :rolleyes
You feel you've defended Fedor good with you math? (not arguments)
I just stated facts because this...
well we all know that Fedor fights 1.5 fights a year.
What an easy job he has.
Was not factual...
Not sure what happy birthday's has to do with Fedor though?
polandprzem
08-10-2009, 06:25 PM
Not sure what happy birthday's has to do with Fedor though?
On a birthday there is specific amount of years that is ending so I was taking about this as setting the math rules you was talking about.
But maybe you are right I should use a blue color for irony.
LEONARD
08-10-2009, 06:27 PM
I'm so confused right now...
polandprzem
08-10-2009, 06:28 PM
I'm always confused ...
No worries
LEONARD
08-10-2009, 06:29 PM
:lmao:lmao
On a birthday there is specific amount of years that is ending so I was taking about this as setting the math rules you was talking about..
I believe you mean to use "Anniversary" instead of "birthday"
polandprzem
08-10-2009, 06:34 PM
I believe you mean to use "Anniversary" instead of "birthday"
Isn't birthday an anniversary?
You are going on a birthday party to celebrate an anniversary of somebodys birth.
Isn't birthday an anniversary?
You are going on a birthday party to celebrate an anniversary of somebodys birth.
In Americanized English the context is a little different.
Birthday is literally only used when talking about the day a PERSON was born. In other languages uses birthday is used more loosely as you know.
polandprzem
08-10-2009, 07:00 PM
In Americanized English the context is a little different.
Birthday is literally only used when talking about the day a PERSON was born. In other languages uses birthday is used more loosely as you know.
When I say happy birthday I have in mind his past YEARS on this planet
Simply I'm setting the math rules
polandprzem
08-10-2009, 07:02 PM
Btw. It's as pathetic as it gets.
Fedor not fighting much
End of this shit !
polandprzem
08-10-2009, 07:09 PM
ok now I am confused
I just wanted to show you how stupid logic does Leonard is using.
Me seting the math rules? Where did he got this from? What rules ?
Sheesh
I just used a 1.5 fight a year to measure Fedor fighting not much, and I put an irony in this.
Al of sudden Leo comes and says Fedor fights 1.6 or something and that I'm setting math rules.
So I wanted to show how stupid all his logic is.
dbreiden83080
08-10-2009, 07:22 PM
Fedor is irrelevant until he gets his butt in the UFC and fights in huge events. The last Strikeforce Dana said had like 245,000 people watching it, The Arlovski fight sold like 100,000 PPV's. That is pathetic..
LEONARD
08-11-2009, 08:17 AM
I just wanted to show you how stupid logic does Leonard is using.
Me seting the math rules? Where did he got this from? What rules ?
Sheesh
I just used a 1.5 fight a year to measure Fedor fighting not much, and I put an irony in this.
Al of sudden Leo comes and says Fedor fights 1.6 or something and that I'm setting math rules.
So I wanted to show how stupid all his logic is.
I did the math, you said you meant 3 yrs, so I went back 3 years from yesterday...not that difficult... :lol
But I was mostly just fucking with you for being Dana-like with your exaggeration in regards to Fedor and how much he fights...
Phillip
08-11-2009, 08:18 AM
lol
LEONARD
08-11-2009, 05:38 PM
DkB5wK54LM8
polandprzem
08-12-2009, 01:34 AM
I did the math, you said you meant 3 yrs, so I went back 3 years from yesterday...not that difficult... :lol
But I was mostly just fucking with you for being Dana-like with your exaggeration in regards to Fedor and how much he fights...
I don't know if I'm Dana-like
Mostly I'm polandprzems-like ...
To me it's simple
2006 -2
2007 -2
2008 -1
2009 -1
and that's not much, but who cares right, Leo?
The most important is that Fedor leads the ranks which IMO doesn't mean much. I'd rather watch him fight then checking the ranks.
But whatever.
eot
LEONARD
08-12-2009, 08:11 AM
Going back 3 yrs is simple math to me...whatever floats your boat...
polandprzem
08-12-2009, 08:14 AM
Going back 3 yrs is simple math to me...whatever floats your boat...
meaningless pal
dallaskd
08-20-2009, 11:23 PM
Muhammad Lawal (4-0) vs. Mark Kerr (15-10)
Nick Thompson (38-11-1) vs. Karl Amoussou (10-2-1)
Fedor Emelianenko vs. Gegard Mousasi -- Special sparring exhibition
Lucio Linhares (12-4) vs. Mikhail Zayats (8-3)
Jesse Gibbs (7-2) vs. Rob Broughton (10-4-1)
Lloyd "Kadillac" Marshbanks (17-8) vs. Michael Kita (5-3)
Daisuke Nakamura (19-10) vs. Ferrid Kheder (14-3)
dallaskd
08-20-2009, 11:23 PM
please update any card changes.
LEONARD
08-21-2009, 09:22 AM
Are we making official picks for this turd??
are we making official picks for this turd??
m-1 only puts on the best events!!! Thats why fedor is with them!!!
dallaskd
08-21-2009, 12:29 PM
I say no.
polandprzem
08-22-2009, 01:40 AM
Fedor Emelianenko vs. Gegard Mousasi
Blackjack
08-22-2009, 02:19 PM
On a birthday there is specific amount of years that is ending so I was taking about this as setting the math rules you was talking about.
But maybe you are right I should use a blue color for irony.
I'm so confused right now...
No worries
I believe you mean to use "Anniversary" instead of "birthday"
Isn't birthday an anniversary?
You are going on a birthday party to celebrate an anniversary of somebodys birth.
In Americanized English the context is a little different.
Birthday is literally only used when talking about the day a PERSON was born. In other languages uses birthday is used more loosely as you know.
When I say happy birthday I have in mind his past YEARS on this planet
Simply I'm setting the math rules
ok now I am confused
Now that's the type of exchange I like to see! :lmao
Never in my wildest dreams did I see polandprzem being capable of applying the rear naked gibberish, though..
Apparently, neither did LEONARD or Evan.:hat
The TroutBum
08-23-2009, 12:33 AM
Never in my wildest dreams did I see polandprzem being capable of applying the rear naked gibberish, though..
I lol'd.
polandprzem
08-24-2009, 02:04 AM
Never in my wildest dreams did I see polandprzem being capable of applying the rear naked gibberish, though..
I can understand how hard was it for you
LEONARD
08-24-2009, 10:14 AM
With what we know about Ken Pavia, I tend to believe Coker on the Ricco vs Fedor rumor being total BS...
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?go=news.detail&gid=182924
polandprzem
08-24-2009, 11:58 AM
2 weeks
Blackjack
08-25-2009, 11:58 PM
I can understand how hard was it for you
Appreciate the understanding.:toast
I hope to one day earn my black belt from the polandprzem camp.
Nogueira and Gracie belts are pretty useless on these here message boards.:hat
LEONARD
08-28-2009, 08:43 PM
Starts in 20 min's on HDNet...
undercard is streaming on sherdog now...
Starts in 20 min's on HDNet...
undercard is streaming on sherdog now...
Oy!
Thanks budday!
ok that was bizarre...HDNet broke into a pace shuttle launch...it was awesome but weird.
LEONARD
08-29-2009, 09:42 AM
Possibly the weirdest sequence of events ever on TV... :lol
Fedor vs Mousasi sparring session...pretty cool (Mousasi at 231 lbs!!??)
right into the space shuttle launch...
then King Mo vs Kerr (which was sad).
robbie380
08-29-2009, 09:56 AM
how did it turn out? no hdnet on time warner:depressed
how did it turn out? no hdnet on time warner:depressed
well...the ring looked good at least.
and it looked like maybe 2,000 people were in the audience. good to see Fedor's money get a good return.
/sarcasm
however...seeing a night space shuttle launch live in HD, at night, was stunningly beautiful.
such a random surprise tho...hahahah
polandprzem
08-29-2009, 10:45 AM
Can Fedor recover from this fight?
There is Rogers waiting around the corner
/you know what :)
LEONARD
08-29-2009, 11:07 AM
Probably not...I think his career is over...
polandprzem
08-29-2009, 11:49 AM
Probably not...I think his career is over...
You gave up
at last
:fight
LEONARD
08-29-2009, 11:56 AM
I don't really get why anybody sees a sparring exhibition (more like judo/grappling) in the US as a bad thing. Since it was announced I've seen people make comments about it as if it was replacing a fight or moving a fight back or whatever. If he'd been there signing autographs people wouldn't have said shit...but since he did an exhibition people throw out smart ass comments? Makes no sense to me. I thought the exhibition was pretty cool...
polandprzem
08-29-2009, 01:40 PM
I don't really get why anybody sees a sparring exhibition (more like judo/grappling) in the US as a bad thing. Since it was announced I've seen people make comments about it as if it was replacing a fight or moving a fight back or whatever. If he'd been there signing autographs people wouldn't have said shit...but since he did an exhibition people throw out smart ass comments? Makes no sense to me. I thought the exhibition was pretty cool...
Leonard I was kidding around (like I do mostly).
I would love to see that exhibtion, and I'm glad Fedor does such things, although I would prefer to see him doing it after he retire. But exhibition won't hurt him.
And I think I must clear one thing again. Fedor is my man :) Because of him I'm mma fan.
I love his style of fighting and I love the way he handle himself.
Some things I do not understand though that's why I'm sometimes on the other side of the fence and talking some shit. But I'm not that much serious about this.
SF and Brett fight - well that was the best they could come up with and still this is the guy with powerfull striking, and this is sport and this is fighting - everything can happen.
If they can throw werdum and Alistar next and then meybe M-1 will decide they have nowhere to go then UFC I will be more that happy. The other scenerio can be Japan for Fedor heading there with two loses ...
we will see. I just want to see Fedor fight.
His last, let's say 4 fights were not entertaining (please Leo - don't bring the math into it again :) )
All in all - let Fedor do his thing. let him make exhibitions and let him fight with whoever he wants. The history will judge his accomplishemnts and decisions.
LEONARD
08-29-2009, 02:27 PM
Yea yea...I knew you were kidding. I was more referring to comments I'm seeing all over the place...
oligarchy
08-30-2009, 04:40 PM
Maybe people without ME degrees would rather watch a real fight instead of watching two people who aren't really fighting. I know you dig it, you think Maynard "trains" MMA. LOL. HoLMES.
dbreiden83080
08-30-2009, 04:47 PM
Maybe people without ME degrees would rather watch a real fight instead of watching two people who aren't really fighting. I know you dig it, you think Maynard "trains" MMA. LOL. HoLMES.
Yea yea...I knew you were kidding. I was more referring to comments I'm seeing all over the place...
You boys need to get in there and settle this like men..
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polandprzem
08-31-2009, 07:32 AM
I just saw that exhibition Fedja vs Gegard
It was quite even - Fedor at 231 Gegard at 204
And way too short fight. They could go longer but Fedor decided to finish the armbar and that's it
LEONARD
08-31-2009, 09:01 AM
Maybe people without ME degrees would rather watch a real fight instead of watching two people who aren't really fighting. I know you dig it, you think Maynard "trains" MMA. LOL. HoLMES.
You're truly pathetic...and only making you're look more and more insane...
oligarchy
08-31-2009, 09:45 AM
You're truly pathetic...and only making you're look more and more insane...
Yes. I'm insane because you're an idiot and don't understand why people would complain about watching an exhibition over a real fight. CHECK HOLMES. Hi idiot.
LEONARD
08-31-2009, 10:38 AM
Yes. I'm insane because you're an idiot and don't understand why people would complain about watching an exhibition over a real fight. CHECK HOLMES. Hi idiot.
He has a real fight coming up...this exhibition had NOTHING to do with his fight schedule. If it had replaced a fight it would be different. It was just an appearance. I'd rather see him in an exhibition match than signing autographs. I just don't get why anybody would complain about it...
oligarchy
08-31-2009, 10:53 AM
Uhmm.. wtf? READ. It really does help. That "real fight" doesn't have to involve Fedor, but it would be better for someone who is only going to fight once this year.
LEONARD
08-31-2009, 11:03 AM
Confusing...
Fedor will fight twice this year...would've been 3 times (all against top 10 guys) if Barnett/Affliction hadn't fucked it up...
oligarchy
08-31-2009, 11:06 AM
Regardless. Doesn't change the point.
LEONARD
08-31-2009, 11:11 AM
The fact that he's fighting twice this year doesn't change your point that he'll only fight once this year? Interesting...
oligarchy
08-31-2009, 11:45 AM
The fact that he's fighting twice this year doesn't change your point that he'll only fight once this year? Interesting...
Are you really this fucking dumb? The whole discussion has been about WHY people DONT like the exhibition. So my mistake of 1 fight or 2 has no baring on the POINT of WHY people don't like the EXHIBITION. I know you can't follow conversations very well, but fuck, it was two posts back. Reading Comprehension.
LEONARD
08-31-2009, 11:50 AM
I've already given my opinion on WHY people shouldn't care about the exhibition...it was a non-event...an appearance...like signing autographs. It had no impact on his fighting career. What reason is there to bitch about it in any way???
oligarchy
08-31-2009, 12:02 PM
That a fight could have gone in it's place. Read.
LEONARD
08-31-2009, 12:20 PM
That a fight could have gone in it's place. Read.
I don't recall you saying that...
Who is going to take a fight with Fedor without a full training camp????
and why would they put Fedor on a small card in Kansas City that's on HDNet???
oligarchy
08-31-2009, 01:06 PM
Uhmm.. wtf? READ. It really does help. That "real fight" doesn't have to involve Fedor..
I do recall you have a reading comprehension problem. A fight. Did I say Fedor needs to fill that fight? Fucking Drew Fickett can show up and be a drunk idiot and lose for the 8th straight time, it's still a real fight and not two people playing around.
LEONARD
08-31-2009, 01:20 PM
Uhmm.. wtf? READ. It really does help. That "real fight" doesn't have to involve Fedor..
I do recall you have a reading comprehension problem. A fight. Did I say Fedor needs to fill that fight? Fucking Drew Fickett can show up and be a drunk idiot and lose for the 8th straight time, it's still a real fight and not two people playing around.
There was no reason for me to think you were referring to a fight not involving Fedor. You act like they yanked a fight from this POS card that nobody cared about to throw in the Fedor exhibition...and even if they had, who cares?? I just don't get why Fedor showing up and doing a 5 min exhibition before the main even really bothers you that much?? Crazy.
oligarchy
08-31-2009, 01:23 PM
Why does it both you that it bothers me? OR that it bothers many other people? Aside from the fact that I was pointing out the reasoning WHY people didn't like the exhibition. It doesn't matter that you got a hard-on watching Fedor.
LEONARD
08-31-2009, 01:26 PM
I'm just trying to understand why it bothered so many people...I've yet to see a good reason. I guess it's just trendy and cool to hate on the guy right now. That won't change until he's in the UFC...doesn't matter who he fights outside of there.
I thought it was pretty cool myself...as a Fedor and MMA fan. It didn't hurt a damn thing, and it was interesting to see Mousasi and himself throw each other around...
oligarchy
08-31-2009, 01:31 PM
That reason is as good as having the exhibition in the first place, or your reasoning why it was good. It's people tastes. People don't have to hate on Fedor to not want to watch two guys play around. I don't get how that's hating on Fedor. People don't like to watch pre-season basketball, does that make them not basketball fans? Maybe they want to watch the real product.
LEONARD
08-31-2009, 01:35 PM
People were ripping on Fedor from the moment this was announced...it had nothing to do with not wanting to watch an exhibition...had everything to do with people being overly critical of him about everything right now.
He's in a no-win situation until he's in the UFC...
dbreiden83080
08-31-2009, 01:56 PM
He's in a no-win situation until he's in the UFC...
And it's all his fault he is not in the UFC..
TheTruth
08-31-2009, 02:00 PM
I'm a pretty big MMA fan, but there is no way I'd rather see a sparring match (no matter who is involved) over a real fight. Just plain boring.
LEONARD
08-31-2009, 02:21 PM
I'm a pretty big MMA fan, but there is no way I'd rather see a sparring match (no matter who is involved) over a real fight. Just plain boring.
I don't think anybody here has said they would??
The exhibition didn't replace a real fight...jeez. :lol
It was for the hardcore MMA fans...
And it's all his fault he is not in the UFC..
^ correct
Fedor wants it all his way...he's just as greedy as "Teh Evil DANA." He's so greedy he has blood on his hands for every org that has gone bankrupt under his presence. Facts are facts.
However...its Fedor's career and he can screw it up all he wants. He owes us fans zero.
The exhibition didn't replace a real fight...jeez. :lol
you sure about that? I'm wondering if SF has an option to count that as a fight. However I saw no cross promotion so maybe not.
It was for the hardcore MMA fans...
righto! And I loved it.
It was interesting but the stands were so empty that on this business side, this event was full of fail.
dbreiden83080
08-31-2009, 10:25 PM
^ correct
Fedor wants it all his way...he's just as greedy as "Teh Evil DANA." He's so greedy he has blood on his hands for every org that has gone bankrupt under his presence. Facts are facts.
However...its Fedor's career and he can screw it up all he wants. He owes us fans zero.
Yeah it is puzzling. When you see stories like this it just makes you shake your head.. A lot of people now seem to think Fedor is afraid of the UFC and specifically Brock..
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oligarchy
09-01-2009, 12:07 AM
He's afraid to get CroCop'd in the UFC.
polandprzem
09-04-2009, 03:25 AM
http://www.fightline.com/news/mma/2009/0818/437590/fedor_emelianenko/index.shtml
Holly macarony :)
http://www.fightline.com/news/mma/2009/0818/437590/fedor_emelianenko/index.shtml
Holly macarony :)
I can vouch that site is full of shit :bang
LEONARD
09-04-2009, 08:43 AM
Is that the one Evan? I thought it was something else with fightline in it...
It's referencing Dave Meltzer who is legit of course...no link, but a lot of his stuff is in the pay section of his site. If true, it'll be on the other sites soon.
Is that the one Evan? I thought it was something else with fightline in it...
It was...but they moved over from so many blogs calling them out. They even use the same Fedor pic in the white jacket.
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