Spurstalk Fantasy Draft Rosters

[sa_kid20]

I think I got all the info right but if I made a mistake just let me know.

Oh and Phila, I hope it's cool that I put this together. Enjoy.


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LeBron James
Rashard Lewis
Kevin Martin
Greg Oden
Tayshaun Prince
Shane Battier
Mo Williams
Kevin Love
Tyreke Evans
Ronnie Brewer
Mike Conley
Brendan Haywood


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Chris Paul
David West
Hedo Turkoglu
Brook Lopez
Jason Terry
Richard Hamilton
Chris Kaman
Andres Nocioni
Jeff Foster
Tony Allen
Marvin Williams
Nick Young

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Kobe Bryant
Vince Carter
Steve Nash
Emeka Okafor
Lamar Odom
John Salmons
Nate Robinson
Boris Diaw
Samuel Dalembert
Chris Anderson
Bruce Bowen
Dahntay Jones

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Dwight Howard
Josh Smith
Monta Ellis
Zach Randolph
Ray Allen
J.R. Smith
Jeff Green
T.J. Ford
Thadeus Young
Joakim Noah
D.J. Augustin
DeJuan Blair

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Kevin Durant
Rajon Rondo
O.J. Mayo
Andrew Bynum
Charlie Villenueva
Luis Scola
Aaron Brooks
Randy Foye
Marc Gasol
Brandon Bass
Vladimir Radmanovic
Daequan Cook

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Dwyane Wade
Tony Parker
Shaquille O'Neal
Nene
Antawn Jamison
Andre Miller
Shawn Marion
Zydrunas Ilgauskas
Kenyon Martin
Wilson Chandler
Larry Hughes
Jamario Moon

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Al Jefferson
Paul Pierce
Manu Ginobili
LaMarcus Aldridge
Jameer Nelson
Jamal Crawford
Trevor Ariza
Brad Miller
Antonio McDyess
Mario Chalmers
Rudy Fernandez
Roy Hibbert

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Dirk Nowitzki
Joe Johnson
Rudy Gay
Blake Griffin
Jason Kidd
Jason Richardson
Jose Calderon
Corey Maggette
Al Thorton
Andrea Bargnani
Hasheem Thabeet
Kwame Brown

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Tim Duncan
Devin Harris
Carlos Boozer
Tracy McGrady
Gerald Wallace
Mehmet Okur
Luel Deng
Kirk Hinrich
Raymond Felton
Marcin Gortat
Jason Maxiel
Roger Mason Jr.

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Deron Williams
Elton Brand
Gilbert Arenas
Tyson Chandler
Marcus Camby
Allen Iverson
Rasheed Wallace
Peja Stojakovic
Nicolas Batum
Anderson Varejao
Matt Bonner
Nick Collison

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Chris Bosh
Andre Iguodola
Chauncy Billups
Andrew Bogut
Paul Milsap
Eric Gordon
Leandro Barbosa
Michael Beasley
Marreese Speights
Ramon Sessions
Mickael Pietrus
James Harden

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Carmelo Anthony
Danny Granger
Baron Davis
David Lee
Stephen Jackson
Al Harrington
Troy murphy
Mike Bibby
Spencer Hawes
Jonny Flynn
Nenad Krstic
Kelene Azubuike

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Yao Ming
Amare Stoudemire
Ron Artest
Ben Gordon
Stephen Curry
Andris Biedrins
Rodney Stuckey
Courtney Lee
Tyrus Thomas
James Posey
Carl Landry
C.J. Miles

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Derrick Rose
Pau Gasol
Caron Butler
Michael Redd
Jermaine O'Neal
Josh Howard
Raja Bell
Marquis Daniels
Jason Thompson
Mike Dunleavy
Joe Smith
Wally Szczerbiak

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Kevin Garnett
Brandon Roy
Al Horford
Russel Westbrook
Richard Jefferson
Anthony Randolph
Kendrick Perkins
Thabo Sefolosha
Andrei Kirilenko
Delonte West
Mike Miller
JaVale McGee

[Chieflion]

Damn, urunobili drafted extremely well.

[Rynospursfan]

Damn, urunobili drafted extremely well.

Yes for the future but his team needs some experience to go along with all that youth. Also Rondo and Mayo is an interesting combo. I guess he could have OJ play the 2.

[holcs50]

Thanks for putting that together bro-and phila thanks for doing all this. IDK what to think of the rosters yet-think after wednesday will be easier to judge rosters-last day will be just filler mostly besides maybe first two rounds.

I already know a mistake i made though-should've taken Lamarcus over Lee in 4th round, oh well, Lee i guess gives me more on the boards

[Chieflion]

I got no problems with our Cavs. I mean, Bosh was like 8-10 on my list. Iguodala's presence will not need me to look for a defensive stopper. Billups was a suprising pick and Bogut just sweetens this thing up.

[sa_kid20]

Thanks for putting that together bro-and phila thanks for doing all this. IDK what to think of the rosters yet-think after wednesday will be easier to judge rosters-last day will be just filler mostly besides maybe first two rounds.

Yeah we can't really judge to much as of right now. Things will look a lot clearer after Wednesday. I mean i don't even have a point guard yet ha. And if it's cool with Phila i guess we can just edit this thread as the rosters fill out.

[Chieflion]

Anyone wants Chauncey Billups? He is up for grabs. Is Viva willing to give up Kobe or Vince?

[mudyez]

I like chauncey

[Chieflion]

The Kings are destined to be the suck for ages.

[Rodriguez]

I like chauncey
7 consecutive appearances in conference finals, I think that's enough to explicate Chauncey's value.

[Brazil]

Thanks for putting that together bro-and phila thanks for doing all this. IDK what to think of the rosters yet-think after wednesday will be easier to judge rosters-last day will be just filler mostly besides maybe first two rounds.

I already know a mistake i made though-should've taken Lamarcus over Lee in 4th round, oh well, Lee i guess gives me more on the boards

:bang Lee was mine ! :)

[Chieflion]

:bang Lee was mine ! :)
With Bogut, we probably have no need for Lee. Wanna get some value for Billups?

[Rodriguez]

With Bogut, we probably have no need for Lee. Wanna get some value for Billups?
Bogut is just an overrated cretin. Apparently the Bucks made a terrible decision in drafting him in 05 while Paul and D-Will were both available.

[Chieflion]

Bogut is just an overrated cretin. Apparently the Bucks made a terrible decision in drafting him in 05 while Paul and D-Will were both available.
Apparently, a double double consistent performer is gaining no respect. He is no Paul or Williams, he is still an above average center in the league.

[urunobili]

I need a PF now:drunk:smokin

[Rodriguez]

Apparently, a double double consistent performer is gaining no respect. He is no Paul or Williams, he is still an above average center in the league.
congratulations, a No.1 draft turned out to be an above average center instead of a mediocre like Kwame Brown. :toast

[Rogue]

I need a PF now:drunk:smokin
Blake Griffin, Joe Johnson and my 5th rounder for Durant, OJ Mayo and Bynum, deal? Your team is unarguably more than talented but the lack of experience can easily be noticed as a big flaw with your young guys, Joe Johnson can bring some precious experience your team urgently needs. I think that's a trade that can benefit both teams, I hope you will accept my offer, thanks.

[Muser]

I auto drafted Butler and Redd to go with Rose and Pau? I like :)

[Chieflion]

Blake Griffin, Joe Johnson and my 5th rounder for Durant, OJ Mayo and Bynum, deal? Your team is unarguably more than talented but the lack of experience can easily be noticed as a big flaw with your young guys, Joe Johnson can bring some precious experience your team urgently needs. I think that's a trade that can benefit both teams, I hope you will accept my offer, thanks.
Suck on that. I could offer Bosh + something for Durant and Mayo if I wanted to.

[urunobili]

guys... KD is untradable... :wakeup

[Rogue]

Suck on that. I could offer Bosh + something for Durant and Mayo if I wanted to.
haha son you are so dumb as to think Johnson+Griffin and picks are not as valuable as Bosh+something (probably nothing but picks). Bosh is actually just a soft ass that can't do shit when meeting with the real traditional big guys, his stats look nice only because the Raptors haven't got any other guy capable of sharing some shots off his hand or grabbing some rebounds off his head.

[Rogue]

guys... KD is untradable... :wakeup
Then how about my 7th round pick + Joe Johnson for Rondo and OJ Mayo and your 8th round pick?

[urunobili]

Blake Griffin, Joe Johnson and my 5th rounder for Durant, OJ Mayo and Bynum, deal? Your team is unarguably more than talented but the lack of experience can easily be noticed as a big flaw with your young guys, Joe Johnson can bring some precious experience your team urgently needs. I think that's a trade that can benefit both teams, I hope you will accept my offer, thanks.

I like our guys... thanks, but no thanks... Griffin is unproven... and while i do love Joe Smooth.. again... we like our team the way it is :king

[Chieflion]

haha son you are so dumb as to think Johnson+Griffin and picks are not as valuable as Bosh+something (probably nothing but picks). Bosh is actually just a soft ass that can't do shit when meeting with the real traditional big guys, his stats look nice only because the Raptors haven't got any other guy capable of sharing some shots off his hand or grabbing some rebounds off his head.
Lol, Johnson, lol Griffin. At least Bosh is better than Durant and Mayo.

[urunobili]

Then how about my 7th round pick + Joe Johnson for Rondo and OJ Mayo and your 8th round pick?

that would ruin my starting backcourt... can't do it :greedy

[sonic21]

who's Rouge?

All you need is Yao, and you're good to go.

:stirpot:

[holcs50]

I like where this is going...let the shit talking begin. Granger will rape faces even more next year, bow down to him.

[urunobili]

I like where this is going...let the shit talking begin. Granger will rape faces even more next year, bow down to him.

:lol I think last year was a fluke but we shall see...

[Texas_Ranger]

Why did someone draft Yao if he will not even play?

[Chieflion]

Why did someone draft Yao if he will not even play?
NBA 2k9, where unhealthy guys have good legs, good hands, and Yao Ming can score 130 points a game.

[Chieflion]

I like where this is going...let the shit talking begin. Granger will rape faces even more next year, bow down to him.
Fail. Bosh is going to be in the playoffs at least, Granger will sit home or do some fishing April 14.

[Texas_Ranger]

NBA 2k9, where unhealthy guys have good legs, good hands, and Yao Ming can score 130 points a game.

:lol

[Rogue]

who's Rouge?

All you need is Yao, and you're good to go.

:stirpot:
I wouldn't lose anything for yao unless he could be got for the equal size of a piece ****.

[Rogue]

Why did someone draft Yao if he will not even play?
homo and stupidity, enough said.

[holcs50]

Fail. Bosh is going to be in the playoffs at least, Granger will sit home or do some fishing April 14.

i could care less if granger makes the playoffs-all i know is he was an all around beast last year, is young, and will continue to be the number one option on the shit pacers :p:

[sonic21]

I wouldn't lose anything for yao unless he could be got for the equal size of a piece ****.

But in nba 2k9, he's really good (and healthy)

[Chingo Bling]

I wanted to be in it but Phila didn't let me make up my own team name. I wanted to be the Chanclas of Tamalipas.

[mudyez]

i could care less if granger makes the playoffs-all i know is he was an all around beast last year, is young, and will continue to be the number one option on the shit pacers :p:

sounds like you think, its a stat based fantasy league! it isnt! it doesnt matter if someone is the first or 20ths option!

[Brazil]

Bogut is just an overrated cretin. Apparently the Bucks made a terrible decision in drafting him in 05 while Paul and D-Will were both available.

he is 7-0 a double double guy while shooting 58% it is all good for me. On D he is more than decent. Paired with Bosh we have a pretty powerful front court.

[mudyez]

Suck on that. I could offer Bosh + something for Durant and Mayo if I wanted to.

would have to be a big something, as he drafted KD 6 picks before you in the first round...its not like he couldnt have him

anyone on my team is tradable...but dont get me bored with Wade trades without real compension...other than LeBron and Kobe and maybe TD there is no one I will trade him without a lot...I mean A LOT to be thrown in!!!

parker, shaq and nene can be had for fair offers though!

[Pucho!!!]

Damn, shaq and nene...thats a huge front line, haha. Well, my Spurs were built very similarly to the actual Spurs. Yes I could have taken Duncan with my 1st pick, but just as the Spurs have done, I wanted the foundation of my dynasty to begin with a big on the way up who is almost a carbon copy of duncan (minus the bank shot) and avg 23-11 last season ( :wow )and only 24. From there I wanted sum vet wings: Pierce and Manu r prolly 2 of the best wings at playin the pick n roll. Both can slash, shoot and get to the line. The final piece to my puzzle came in the form as a slight steal with former longhorn Lamarcus Aldridge rounding out my 1st 4 picks. With his smooth shooting stroke, length, and mobility for a big, paired with Big Al (both r 24 yrs old) make them the new twin towers for many years to come. With Pop coaching these Spurs, team defense will be essential as they do not have a clear cut perimeter defender. The paint is well guarded with length and size. When teams play the Spurs, be ready for a long, grinded out, half-court game with lots of pick n roll action. :flag:

[Pucho!!!]

BTW, the ratings for my 4 picks on a nba2k9 roster I downloaded so I could have the draft picks:
SG Manu-90
SF Pierce-92
PF Aldridge-87
C Jefferson-92

not bad if I do say so myself :toast

[mudyez]

BTW, the ratings for my 4 picks on a nba2k9 roster I downloaded so I could have the draft picks:
SG Manu-90
SF Pierce-92
PF Aldridge-87
C Jefferson-92

not bad if I do say so myself :toast

yeah, but everyone should have about an average of 90 or a little higher

...but those numbers dont tell the whole story anyway!

[mudyez]

Damn, shaq and nene...thats a huge front line, haha. Well, my Spurs were built very similarly to the actual Spurs. Yes I could have taken Duncan with my 1st pick, but just as the Spurs have done, I wanted the foundation of my dynasty to begin with a big on the way up who is almost a carbon copy of duncan (minus the bank shot) and avg 23-11 last season ( :wow )and only 25. From there I wanted sum vet wings: Pierce and Manu r prolly 2 of the best wings at playin the pick n roll. Both can slash, shoot and get to the line. The final piece to my puzzle came in the form as a slight steal with former longhorn Lamarcus Aldridge rounding out my 1st 4 picks. With his smooth shooting stroke, length, and mobility for a big, paired with Big Al (AL-25 yrs & Lamarcus-23 yrs) make them the new twin towers for many years to come. With Pop coaching these Spurs, team defense will be essential as they do not have a clear cut perimeter defender. The paint is well guarded with length and size. When teams play the Spurs, be ready for a long, grinded out, half-court game with lots of pick n roll action.

you will get a lot of hate on this board for saying the carbon copy stuff!

Coach Pop? I didnt see you draft him!

[Pucho!!!]

...but those numbers dont tell the whole story anyway!

True, just sayin. I wrote my story right above that post.

[MB20]

I´m on the Pucho bandwagon !!!
Now go get a nice PG...

[urunobili]

I´m on the Pucho bandwagon !!!
Now go get a nice PG...

I'd trade Rondo for Al Jefferson...

[Pucho!!!]

you will get a lot of hate on this board for saying the carbon copy stuff!

Coach Pop? I didnt see you draft him!

That may be, but with great players, there will be imitators. Ok, maybe I went too far by sayin he's a carbon copy, but he's the closest thing out of al the young bigmen.

We're not draftin coaches, so I just chose him right now :toast. I figure its only right

[Pucho!!!]

I'd trade Rondo for Al Jefferson...

Nah no thanx, I got just the pg in mind for my next pick. Hopefully no one says it here. Let's not say anything about players that have not been drafted yet and stick to the ones that have been.

[mudyez]

Nah no thanx, I got just the pg in mind for my next pick. Hopefully no one says it here. Let's not say anything about players that have not been drafted yet and stick to the ones that have been.

lol, there are still 3 nice PG's in the running...see only two beeing taken before Pucho...so you should be fine with either of them (thinking about picking the 3rd in order to force a trade ;))

[Pucho!!!]

How is any team gonna get a rebound on Phila's team-D Howard, Z-Bo, and Josh Smith :wow

[mabrignani]

hawks drafted the best 4. i think i would have a better team if i didnt get the auto select of stephen jackson. but thats my nigga so ill keep him

[mabrignani]

How is any team gonna get a rebound on Phila's team-D Howard, Z-Bo, and Josh Smith :wow

i feel you on the dwight and smith thing but zach randolph isnt really thaaaaat good. hes got a squad tho, aint gonna lie.

[mabrignani]

btw im lookin at possible trades for gilbert arenas

[Pucho!!!]

i feel you on the dwight and smith thing but zach randolph isnt really thaaaaat good. hes got a squad tho, aint gonna lie.

howard-15 reb
smith-7.5 reb
randolph-10 reb

thats sum rebounding. Howard grabs the offensive boards, Randolph the defensive boards and smith helpin on both sides...wooo, thats pretty good

[mabrignani]

Last season Zach Randolph averaged 22 and 11. Sure he didn't play that much, but he puts up those numbers.

but it was the knicks, i doubt his nba2k9 rating is that good. its actually a 83 cuz i just looked it up. hes got a c- in like every catergory too

[Chieflion]

but it was the knicks, i doubt his nba2k9 rating is that good. its actually a 83 cuz i just looked it up. hes got a c- in like every catergory too
It was Knicks early part of the season, Clippers in the later parts. Now he is a Grizzly, shows how much a cancer he is.

My Cavs have underrated players on 2k9 because of idiotic ratings crap. Someone tell me Bogut's ratings and stats. Tell me if he is underrated on that shittng ratings. Iggy and Bosh are also not that good on 2k9 but they beasting on the real courts out there.

[mabrignani]

It was Knicks early part of the season, Clippers in the later parts. Now he is a Grizzly, shows how much a cancer he is.

My Cavs have underrated players on 2k9 because of idiotic ratings crap. Someone tell me Bogut's ratings and stats. Tell me if he is underrated on that shittng ratings. Iggy and Bosh are also not that good on 2k9 but they beasting on the real courts out there.

not true at all about iggy and bosh. you can dunk from like anywhere with andre and bosh is a real good post player, offense and defense. on youtube they have the 2k9 rosters just look em up. point is tho, the knicks clippers and grizz are all shitty teams with no one on them so of course he avg those pts and boards

[Chieflion]

not true at all about iggy and bosh. you can dunk from like anywhere with andre and bosh is a real good post player, offense and defense. on youtube they have the 2k9 rosters just look em up. point is tho, the knicks clippers and grizz are all shitty teams with no one on them so of course he avg those pts and boards
I am talking about simulation. How good can you get with a defensive player like Iggy. You can't defend on 2k9.

[mabrignani]

I am talking about simulation. How good can you get with a defensive player like Iggy. You can't defend on 2k9.

well you got a good squad man, only question with your team is bogut. billups can beast any pg. what i need is a true center, i got brand who is like a 92 on 2k9 but having another big body would be nice

[Chieflion]

Can we do this the normal way, by doing writeups for our argument instead of nba 2k9 for the fail?

[holcs50]

Its funny were using 2k9 to do this draft-i dont even have the damn game, nor do i know the ratings...should've just done a fantasy draft-but no sites like yahoo have their bball fantasy stuff up yet, so oh well. I am just drafting how I would if I were a GM starting a team-no idea bout this 2k9 stuff.

[VivaPopovich]

Whether it's by judgement, simulation or fantasy draft I'm comfortable with my team every which way.

Showtime!

[Chieflion]

Just do me one favor everyone, keep to yourselvs about who is on the board. If it is late in the 10th round and it turns out no one drafted an all star let the others figure it out on their own.
I know who you want now. Trade me Dwight. You said you got Oden.

[mudyez]

Can we do this the normal way, by doing writeups for our argument instead of nba 2k9 for the fail?

usually I'm all for it, but it would be a major skrewup if we would change it after the first 4 rounds...in 2k9 I really like my lineup...in real life I wouldnt go with 2 bigs, that cant space the floor + a pointguard who cant either to surround Wade!

[Chieflion]

usually I'm all for it, but it would be a major skrewup if we would change it after the first 4 rounds...in 2k9 I really like my lineup...in real life I wouldnt go with 2 bigs, that cant space the floor + a pointguard who cant either to surround Wade!
You got great value with your players. Trade one of them or something.

[mudyez]

You got great value with your players. Trade one of them or something.

I'm in trade talks anyway...but why should I ruin this great nba2k lineup?

[Chieflion]

I'm in trade talks anyway...but why should I ruin this great nba2k lineup?
Iggy + Billups + 6th rounder for Dwyane Wade + 5th rounder + 6th rounder?

[hsxvvd]

We're doing this on 2k9? I thought it was a hypothetical draft for discussion.

Screw this 2k9 stuff, that's possibly the most stupid way of deciding the best team.

Let the 'experts' discuss it and maybe a playoff against each other. Maybe Kori, Timvp or others could vote and seed them 1-15, with 1 getting a 1st round bye. Then playoff against each other.

If it keeps people happy, you could ALSO do the 2k9 thing.

[Chieflion]

howard-15 reb
smith-7.5 reb
randolph-10 reb

thats sum rebounding. Howard grabs the offensive boards, Randolph the defensive boards and smith helpin on both sides...wooo, thats pretty good
Ya, but you look at the offense, it is bullshit.
Randolph has proven he cannot play with another low post presence even though he sucks. (Come touch me, Dave.)
Josh Smith cannot shoot a jumper to save his life.

[mudyez]

Iggy + Billups + 6th rounder for Dwyane Wade + 5th rounder + 6th rounder?

thanks...Im just not that high on Iggy...Think more of him as a 4th rounder in such type of a draft...I like Billups but the whole trade just doesnt do it for me even though I'm also loosing in the picks department...Sorry!

[mudyez]

We're doing this on 2k9? I thought it was a hypothetical draft for discussion.

Screw this 2k9 stuff, that's possibly the most stupid way of deciding the best team.

Let the 'experts' discuss it and maybe a playoff against each other. Maybe Kori, Timvp or others could vote and seed them 1-15, with 1 getting a 1st round bye. Then playoff against each other.

If it keeps people happy, you could ALSO do the 2k9 thing.

said i before: I want to know how the judging works BEFORE we are drafting! now I built my team for 2k9...if we decide to go another way after 4 rounds, I will drop out.

(originaly I was for writeups and so on too! we just should stick with what was said!)...maybe we can do another draft with like all players from 1990 until today available and do it with writeups there.

[Pucho!!!]

I'm happy with my team either way

[mudyez]

should be an interesting session today....the first few rounds are far to easy...everyone knows who is going when (ok, some GM's really hadsome surprise picks that time)...te last round basically doesnt matter in such drafts (only in drafts where you keep the team and so on)...so today we have to show what we have got and it should still matter!

really looking forward to it!

[DPG21920]

Thunder, Spurs, Warriors, Cavs and Hawks all did well under this premise (2K9/Semi-Real life).

[mudyez]

Thunder, Spurs, Warriors, Cavs and Hawks all did well under this premise (2K9/Semi-Real life).

thanks, but I favour the term "Zombi Sonics" or "The team that schall not be named"! :)

[DPG21920]

You have an excellent backcourt. Not only are Wade/Parker both ridiculous offensive players, they are both above average defenders. Same with your front court (except Shaq and Nene are not great offensive players, but very solid).

I see something you are lacking, but can easily be addressed.

[mudyez]

You have an excellent backcourt. Not only are Wade/Parker both ridiculous offensive players, they are both above average defenders. Same with your front court (except Shaq and Nene are not great offensive players, but very solid).

I see something you are lacking, but can easily be addressed.

shooting?

[DPG21920]

shooting?

Sent you a PM.

[Pucho!!!]

Thunder, Spurs, Warriors, Cavs and Hawks all did well under this premise (2K9/Semi-Real life).

Thank u my good man, we still got 9 mo rds to go so hopefully I'm able to keep it up...

[DPG21920]

So who has the first pick of next round?

[Brazil]

So who has the first pick of next round?

I don't know.

Phila, it will be the same order than the first round ?

[VivaPopovich]

drafting 5-9 in 4 hours right?

[mudyez]

drafting 5-9 in 4 hours right?

yeah, monday showed that we need about 1hour for one round!

do we still have the 13th round?

[Horry For 3!]

I am liking the Chicago Bulls team.

As long as Baron Davis stays healthy which is an if. But Carmelo, Lee and Granger are sick.

[hsxvvd]

I've tried to find when this draft turned into a 2k9 competition, but had no luck.

From the beginning of Phila's post, he talks of it being about creating a team, drafting the best team for now and the future. I'm sticking with this mentality.


One of the things we will likely do with these teams is use NBA 2k9 to simulate a playoff tree in which case injuries will be turned off.

[sa_kid20]

I am liking the Chicago Bulls team.

As long as Baron Davis stays healthy which is an if. But Carmelo, Lee and Granger are sick.

Some i'm guessing Carmelo wil be the 2 and Granger the 3? Unless one of them comes of the bench which could work i suppose. I just thought it was interesting to take two SF's back to back like that.

[Brazil]

drafting 5-9 in 4 hours right?

Actually we finished it in 3h30 - 45 but with some auto-drafts

I hope the chat will be free of mav troll

[Pucho!!!]

Some i'm guessing Carmelo wil be the 2 and Granger the 3? Unless one of them comes of the bench which could work i suppose. I just thought it was interesting to take two SF's back to back like that.

U could always put granger at the 3, melo the 4 and lee the 5 with Baron Davis u could have a run n gun team

[sa_kid20]

U could always put granger at the 3, melo the 4 and lee the 5 with Baron Davis u could have a run n gun team

I guess but that would be really weak interior defense. I mean I have Yao and Amare so i would just punish them inside easily all day.

[mabrignani]

nobody is giving me props on my team :(

[Brazil]

nobody is giving me props on my team :(

Your team sucks ! :rollin

[mabrignani]

Your team sucks ! :rollin

deron williams and arenas are better than all ur players. brand is better than bosh, stephen jackson is a 85 compared to ai's 87. and bogut...well bogut is like an 80 rating on 2k9

[mabrignani]

In 2k9 Brand is at 84 I believe. Iggy is about 90, 91. Jax is probably at around 88 and Bogut is at 81. Not sure exactly how everything will turn out.

brand is a 92

[VivaPopovich]

nobody is giving me props on my team :(

who gives a crap about props. pop doesn't, neither does duncan. which is why i'm in favor of the 2k simulation (which phila did make clear from the beginning) cause it's not about who gets the most props it's about who actually wins

if the nba was a props-contest lebron would be a 4x champion. but it's not so he's not

[mabrignani]

We are going off the most recent updates from the end of the season. The ones from the beginning of the year A) do not have complete rosters and B) are less accurate to how much a player has improved over a season. Roger Mason started at a 74 and ended at an 82 I think.

regardless, deron williams and gilbert arenas are better than anyone that fool has on his team. i was only using the 2k9 beginning rosters. do you know where to find the latest 2k9 rosters online?

[mabrignani]

who gives a crap about props. pop doesn't, neither does duncan. which is why i'm in favor of the 2k simulation (which phila did make clear from the beginning) cause it's not about who gets the most props it's about who actually wins

if the nba was a props-contest lebron would be a 4x champion. but it's not so he's not

haha it was a joke man. i realize its a 2k simulation btw

[VivaPopovich]

nobody is giving me props on my team :(

i'll give you props on drafting elton brand. solid pick, vastly underrated

if your shopping him i'm definitely interested

[DPG21920]

So then whomever had the last pick of the 4th has the first today, which would be The Bobcats.

[Brazil]

regardless, deron williams and gilbert arenas are better than anyone that fool has on his team. i was only using the 2k9 beginning rosters. do you know where to find the latest 2k9 rosters online?

dude it was a joke ! this is why I put a :rollin

ur team is fine.

I'm not looking at all 2k9 I haven't this game, I never played sports game anyway. We are building a consistent team who can be a contender not a team to have highest ranking players on a simulation game oh and lol at arenas better than Iggy or bosh.

[Rynospursfan]

So then whomever had the last pick of the 4th has the first today, which would be The Bobcats.

Nope. Wizards will have the first pick, just as they do in all odd rounds.

1. Wizards-GooberNuts and hsxvvd
2. Clippers-slick'81
3. Pacers- VivaPopovich
4. 76ers- Phila_Chamberlain
5. Magic-urunobili
6. Thunder-mudyez
7. Spurs- Pucho!!
8. Lakers- Rouge
9. Warriors-yourtehclay and Rynospursfan
10. rockets-mabrignani
11. Cavs- Brazil, Chieflion and I. Hustle
12. Bulls-holcs50
13. Hawks- sa_kid20
14. Kings- Muser
15. Bobcats- SpursWench21

[DPG21920]

Yes that is right. I had the order mixed up.

[VivaPopovich]

i'll see you all in chat in an hour

[mabrignani]

dude it was a joke ! this is why I put a :rollin

ur team is fine.

I'm not looking at all 2k9 I haven't this game, I never played sports game anyway. We are building a consistent team who can be a contender not a team to have highest ranking players on a simulation game oh and lol at arenas better than Iggy or bosh.

its true, arenas has a better rating then both of those guys.

[Brazil]

its true, arenas has a better rating then both of those guys.

conclusion : this game is fucking stupid

[mabrignani]

conclusion : this game is fucking stupid

haha i agree, having a fantasy draft for nba2k9 is only good if you yourself can play against the other teams. but i mean im super pumped for the start of the nba season and this kinda makes the time without seeing nba games not so bad

[VivaPopovich]

conclusion : this game is fucking stupid

? when healthy gilbert arenas is better than those guys. deron doesn't have gilbert's jump shot. the ratings are reflective of skill and don't factor in a player's health, there may be a separate rating for that which wouldn't matter anyways since this is for 1 playoffs

[Chieflion]

Someone update this thread? Millsap and Beasley available for a PG or Center.

[Chieflion]

? when healthy gilbert arenas is better than those guys. deron doesn't have gilbert's jump shot. the ratings are reflective of skill and don't factor in a player's health, there may be a separate rating for that which wouldn't matter anyways since this is for 1 playoffs
Arenas is a playoff loser. Any team with Gilbert Arenas as starting PG won't win the playoffs.

[sa_kid20]

Everything is updated

[DPG21920]

I think the Warriors have the best team right now:

Starters:
Devin Harris
Tracy McGrady
Gerald Wallace
Boozer
Duncan

Bench
Mehmet Okur
Luol Deng
Kirk Hinrich

[Rynospursfan]

Thanks bro, I am loving our team.

[mudyez]

shaq is up for grabs!

[DPG21920]

Wizards started out poorly, but depending on a few things, they could have a very solid team:

Starters:
Mo Williams
Kevin Martin
Lebron James
Rashard Lewis
Greg Oden

Bench
Tayshaun Prince
Shane Battier

By the way, are they missing someone, or are they picking twice in a row Friday?

[DPG21920]

Then these 3 teams are close:

Thunder Starters:
Tony Parker
Dwyane Wade
Shawn Marion
Nene
Shaquille O'Neal

Thunder Bench
Antawn Jamison
Andre Miller
Zydrunas Ilgauskas

Spurs Starters
Jameer Nelson
Manu Ginobili
Paul Pierce
LaMarcus Aldridge
Al Jefferson

Spurs Bench
Jamal Crawford
Trevor ariza
Brad Miller

Lakers Starters
Jason Kidd
Joe Johnson
Rudy Gay
Blake Griffin
Dirk Nowitzki

Lakers Bench
Jason Richardson
Jose Calderon
Corey Maggette

The Lakers have the most interesting team in this group. Very nice mix of scorers. Defense would be a problem, but man, tons of scoring.

[mabrignani]

Not to be a dick but i honestly think i have one of the best squads right now.

PG Deron Williams
SG Allen Iverson
SF Stephen Jackson
PF Elton Brand
C Marcus Camby

PF Rasheed Wallace
SF Peja Stojakovic
PG/SG Gilbert Arenas

[hsxvvd]

Wizards started out poorly, but depending on a few things, they could have a very solid team:

Starters:
Mo Williams
Kevin Martin
Lebron James
Rashard Lewis
Greg Oden

Bench
Tayshaun Prince
Shane Battier

By the way, are they missing someone, or are they picking twice in a row Friday?

Cheers, falling into place right now... a few opportunities came up I didn't expect, which have thrown my team off balance, but I've got the night to sleep on it.

[DPG21920]

Cheers, falling into place right now... a few opportunities came up I didn't expect, which have thrown my team off balance, but I've got the night to sleep on it.

Kevin Martin and Rashard were absolutely perfect to pair with Lebron.

[mabrignani]

The Rockets swap Stephen Jackson for the Bull's Tyson Chandler.

even better now, i didnt need the scoring of stephen jackson anyways. I got arguably the nba's best pg in deron williams who can score and ast. i got some big men that can block, score, rebound and stretch the defense with rasheed wallace. my shooting guards can do just that and shoot, allen iverson and gilbert arenas. and my small forward is a pure 3pt shooter with height. My next pick is just gonna solidify my defense at sf

[mudyez]

need to check if holc isnt a setup...that trade is stupid for him

[Rogue]

shaq is up for grabs!
Calderon and J-Rich for Shaq and your 9th rounder, deal?

[mudyez]

dont bother me with caldi....I dontlike him...I like Gay (did I say that?)

[DPG21920]

Let me clarify. With how this is set up (everyone is healthy, want to win now and/or build for later, use 2K9 rankings and make it semi real life), this is why I did my rankings:

I think that the Warriors have the best "win now" team, but they do not have the best future. That is what I meant when I said "best right now".

The Wizards are close to having the best right now if not the best and it seems like they also have a pretty bright future with Lebron/Kevin Martin/Oden. Very good job.

Then the other 3 are a good mixture of win now and future, but not as good as the other 3 in both areas.

Thunder have a good win now team, pretty close to the other two, and a decent future team because of Parker/Wade. But they are a more win now team, and they would be damn good.

Spurs are just a slight notch below on the win now level, but they have a very strong future with Jameer/Aldridge/Al Jefferson/Ariza/Crawford. But they would be a pretty solid win now team as well.

Lakers have a really good win now team that is like the Suns on roids. They have a few very solid pieces for the future with Blake Griffin/Rudy Gay/Joe Johnson.

[Rogue]

dont bother me with caldi....I dontlike him...I like Gay (did I say that?)
Gay himself for Shaq? we need some fillers to match the salary I think.

[mabrignani]

need to check if holc isnt a setup...that trade is stupid for him

a setup? stfu, we both got those players auto selected and we both want the opp player

[DPG21920]

need to check if holc isnt a setup...that trade is stupid for him

Jax is better and even though he might not fit the team very well, he can be traded.

[mudyez]

Jax is better and even though he might not fit the team very well, he can be traded.

yeah, everything is ok...just wanted to say, that it doesnt make sense if you trade your lonely center (I dont bye the murphy at center stuff) for an backup to your 2 best players. he will get owned even though nba2k loves Melo!

btw.: holc...any way to get Granger for Parker now that you have your wings packed?...I mean, you want to run an gun...put barron at the 2 and run with the quickest guy in the game!

[mabrignani]

Jax is better and even though he might not fit the team very well, he can be traded.

?

[mudyez]

Gay himself for Shaq? we need some fillers to match the salary I think.

make a proposal!

[mudyez]

a setup? stfu, we both got those players auto selected and we both want the opp player

yeah, I will stop telling him, that he gets owned! sorry!

[DPG21920]

?

Jax is a better player than Chandler. Jax does not fit his team, because he already has SF's packed. But he is the better player and he could move him again.

[mudyez]

I'm a little surprised no one is commenting on how good my team will be in 3 years.

tell nb2k9 that it has to take the teams 3 years from now!!!

it doesnt matter how young a team is...after all it even kills you coz they are inexperienced!

[mudyez]

Jax is a better player than Chandler. Jax does not fit his team, because he already has SF's packed. But he is the better player and he could move him again.

with zero trades happening before and nothing like salaries which could intice GM's to make deals, it doesnt seem like the chances are high, that he will be moved again

The trade is ok if he decides to take only centers with his remaining picks from now on, but even then he wont get far!

btw.: nba2k9 loves chandler as it does love melo (and for that matter nene, dirk and for whatever reason nate robinson)...you see these guys making it to the championship a lot of times even with scrubs surrounding them...its really funny as I'm always simming until I have a must win game or the shot to win the finals...and these are the players I always meat in the finals, beeing surprised how weak the teams basically are

I guess players like that always are in the games....in NBA 9something' it was Finlay and Shareef....average stats but major success while simulating!

[holcs50]

trades fine with me-Im planning on playing small ball-or just using Murphy/lee as my center.

Probably go
Baron
SJax
Granger
Melo
Lee/murphy

Lee/murphy
bibby
harrington

I realize its small but granger/melo/jax are all big boys who can board. If anyone is looking for a sf in harrington??? dont know his 2k9 rating but hes 20 and 6 guy

[Rogue]

make a proposal!
seriously, Gay + my 10th round pick for Shaq and Marion?

[mudyez]

trades fine with me-Im planning on playing small ball-or just using Murphy/lee as my center.

Probably go
Baron
SJax
Granger
Melo
Lee/murphy

Lee/murphy
bibby
harrington

I realize its small but granger/melo/jax are all big boys who can board. If anyone is looking for a sf in harrington??? dont know his 2k9 rating but hes 20 and 6 guy


I might be interested in Harrington...make me a proposal!

[mudyez]

seriously, Gay + my 10th round pick for Shaq and Marion?

f you make it a 9th, I might think about it

[Rogue]

f you make it a 9th, I might think about it
seriously?

[mudyez]

seriously?

I'm not saying I'll do it...but if you put the 9th into the bucket, I will cosider it and tray to weigh my options with that lineup.

[holcs50]

mudyez-yea ill try to think of something.

Does anyone know where I can find the nba 2k9 updated player ratings? Would be nice to see what the hell ive drafted, lmaoo. I almost was tempted to go rent it but was over it. thanks to anyone who has some info

[Rogue]

My mail box is wide open to any offer for Calderon or J-Rich.

[mudyez]

dont overvalue the ratings...ok, its nice to have something to put them in order but finally we ae doing a 15 team draft...no team....I mean NO TEAM (not even a team builfor defense only)! will have problems scoring the ball...we all will have problems with sharing the rock...look for PPG to drop for every single players...so its about efficiency and defense

o.g.: if you have a guy like AI on your team its worth nothing, coz there should be at least 3 other stars beeing more efficient scoring points. It helps having efficient first, second and third options but after that you shouldnt look at a guy and say: hey, AI has a 87 while Shne Battier might help you more even while he hs a 80 or 81 (I dont know).

The game isnt the smartest when it comes to simulating games (you actually dont need a position defender + a shotblocker down low and the game doesnt care about spacing if you have a low post freak like Howard or guys like Parker) but the mechanics still are, that there is only one ball with games beeing in the 80s a lot more often than we might thing with all the offense power!

btw.: I'd like to add little story, which happened with something like NBA live 95 or a little later (but pre duncan)...
I wanted to see how much points I could get out of the Admiral, therefore putting him on the court with (11)PG's which had high Assist ratings, while scoring only a few points (I figured out, that the Admiral would have to do the job himself)...guys like AJ fit that bill and I found others too...even at PF
the result: these guys put on ok Assist numbers while David did well but not like scoring 40 points (I think around 30)....the team sucked to no surprise but now here comes the really interesting thing:

The Team had more Assists than Fieldgoals made in the season!!!

LOL

I think after about 15 years and another game(2k instead of live), it might be better, but its not like the game was made for simulating....it was made for playing! So dont expect too much out of it. As I said: while simulating seasons, there where often really weak teams, making it to the finals:

without fantasie draft I had these 3 teams making it to the finals in 3 out of 3 seasons (starting new...playing myself with MIA or SA): OKC, CHA, MEM...no kidding! ok, Spurs, CLE and Lakers are doing fine(BOS and ORL not), and getting top seeds, but in the playoffs it often seems like its a lotterie...#1s get upset like 1 out of 3 and so on! you very rarely see the best teams winnign it all!

Wouldnt even surprise my to see the magic winning it all (no offense to them, but they are the weakes while youngest team....they get my vote for young gunz!).

As much as I like building the teams, id doesnt make much sense celebrating, that yo might have gotten the spacing PF you needed to complement you lowpost Center...the game doesnt care!!!

You get Lewis and Martin to complement LeBron?...great idea....LeBron will score less coz they will without compensation on defense. It sux, but its the way it is. the game cares about efficiency!

So if you see a 88Rating watch out where its coming from! after all it makes a lot of sense to go listen to your stomache!

Do I use the ratings? Yeah, I do! but finaly I'm asking myself the question: Does the game like that player in a 15 team league with every team having 2 allstars? I'd go for Bell instead if AI, I'd go for Battier instead of whoever has a good overall rating which comes from shooting.

BTW.: the games really likes awareness stats...which is usualy better for older players...so if there is no "young gunz" voting, its deproductive to go young.

[mudyez]

Well Ray Allen dwight and JR Smith have all been deep into the playoffs. Josh Smith's team made it to the second round. And Monta Ellis was on the Warriors who knocked off the Mavericks.

so tell nba2k that! :)

I'm sure the game will care about monta beeing a nice sidekick to that upset 2,5 years ago! ;)

[hsxvvd]

You get Lewis and Martin to complement LeBron?...great idea....LeBron will score less coz they will without compensation on defense. It sux, but its the way it is. the game cares about efficiency!

I don't play 2k9, and I ain't drafting for it. I'm sticking with the original concept, that is drafting the best team for now and tomorrow, as GM's would do today if they had to.

If it turns out on 2k9 I suck so be it. Hopefully though, we'll have some discussion on which teams would be the best on a basketball court, not a computer game.... hypothetically anyway...lol...

[Chieflion]

Looking for a Small Forward or Center for Paul Millsap or Michael Beasley.

[Chieflion]

I don't play 2k9, and I ain't drafting for it. I'm sticking with the original concept, that is drafting the best team for now and tomorrow, as GM's would do today if they had to.

If it turns out on 2k9 I suck so be it. Hopefully though, we'll have some discussion on which teams would be the best on a basketball court, not a computer game.... hypothetically anyway...lol...
Yep I agree with this post. Video game rosters are a bitch anyway. By the way, looking at my lineup, I should trade for players whose last names are Bs so that we would have a Bs squad.

[mudyez]

Hi guys! First off I wanted to announce, that any player except Wade can be had for a fair price! Just pm me! I'll listen to you!

here are my thoughts and maybe proposes:

Wizards:
Basically you cant fail with building around LeBron, even if every pick is autopicked and every single time the others try to skrew you. overall I think they need. a little bit to much offense with martin, lewis and mo in the starting lineup. I'm not interested in any of hi players (at least not the ones that should be available)

Clippers:
Run and Gun with CP3. always thought that I would get CP3 with the 6th pick so it might have been a reach. Didnt want him as its boring to build around a great PG. He just did what he had to do (actually we did it) and surounded him with athletic players. Why propose a deal to a GM that never shows up?

Pacers:
its a little to much scoring and not enought rebounding and so on...Carter and Kobe need the ball in their hands, so where does it leave Nash...ould be fun to watch the team though! I'd like to do a deal for Diaw...aybe involving Shaq (but not straight up). So let me know!

76ers:
I kind of dont understand the team. Building around D12 should be fun, but doesnt look like a team with an identity. PG's that run and are not great shooters, old players on key positions. young players on others. It may work in NBA2k but for me there is no real idea behind that team as of right now. Its like someone went BPA every single time. Philly knows that I like Allen and Josh, but I dont think, we can work something out. Might be interested in Monta too, if I would include Parker. But if so, something more would have to go my way.

Magic:
OK, not a win now team, but great for the future (whatever its worth for). Dont like that he took Scola over some nice young players (e.g. Green). He just doesnt fit in with the others. After all its agood start if you think future, I just dont thing, that that will mean much! Interest in players from me isntworth much, as my younger players are to old for him anyway. Not that interested anyway (aside from Rondo and KD) anyway.

Spurs:
I really like that squad. Good players, that fit each other pretty well. Overall the team is caught a little bit in between defense/offense identity but should be fine. My bet to win it! Interest in Manu, Ariza and BigAl. BigAl wont be available I guess. Wouldnt give up Parker for Manu but if you have something else in mind let me know. Ariza might be interesting for me.

Lakers:
They need a Center!!! Dirk isnt a real one, as Griffin isnt (maybe for some minutes but not a whole game). The other positions are nice but nothing special. I'd like to listen to deals für J-Rich, Maggette and Gay. Even might add a Parker for Kidd part if its vor the right guys. Call me!

Warriors:
My second bet to win it all (the West is hard damit). Well build team overall. You have TD + 2 defense guys and 2 kind of star guys which had difficultseasons. Solid bench. Interest in: Okur, Hinrich and Harris! Let me know if you have someone in mind for any of them!

Rockets:
I dont like the PG's as starters...Arenas is a shoot first PG but not a SG. The froncourt is nice. Overall a nice team, but needs to get rid of Arenas or DWill (which wont happen). Arenas als is the guy, I'd like to talk bout, but I dont see us working something out, that makes real sense. Listeneing to anything incuding Brand and Peja too.

Cavs:
Solid team. In terms of stars it looks really weak, as Bosh is the only guy, that really pops out (and I think of him as a secoundrounder). I like the whole mix, but in terms ofoverall talent its not looking that great as Bogut, EGordon and Iggy where reaches. I'd like to talk about Bogut or Bosh (guess Bosh wont go anywhere)!

Bulls:
Major skrewup! No offense but after round 8 this team has no center and only one banger as PF. Smallball is nice and all(not in 2k) but this team doesnt make sense at all. I like Melo and Granger (had them together in such a thing too once) but B-Diddy isnt the PG to go with them (I had Nash) and the frontcourt is a mess. I'm willing to talk about Granger or Harrington. Maybe you could even get Shaq, which would rescue the lineup.

Hawks:
Until the Curry pick I really liked them. A lot of weapons(might need a second ball) even though I dont like the defense. Have to like the frontcourt. Artest was a reach even without character issues. overall the guards look nice but dont suit the frontcourt. just too young...at least one experienced PG would have been better. Not that interested in any of his players aside from Biedrins. would like to talk about him!

Kings:
Wow: no over the top star (Gasol was his first pick, Butler his second), no identity (youngs and olds, defense and offense), average defense. 2k likes JO a little but overall they could be worse than the Magic!
Interest in Butler and Pau, but it will be hard to work something out as I didnt see them that high. Shaq+filler for Pau might be interesting and could give him kind of an identity.

Bobcats:
I just dont see the idea! KG+Roy was grea to start with. But the whole linup kind of makes my head ache...dont even know why as its not that bad and I like a lot of these guys (Horford and Westbrook are some of my favs in the whole league). Just cant say anything about them. They are an ok team. I'd like to speak about something involving Parker for Roy (would have to throw in a little) or something involving Parker for KG (would throw in a lot for that to happen). Would like to speak about that!

[Chieflion]

Of course my team has little star power, but everyone on the team knows their roles and have the ability to maximize their potential by doing so.

[mudyez]

I'm not questioning thate they like each other and my play nicely (aside from Barbosa they are nice guys I believe)...But last time I checked it was about winning games.

[Chieflion]

I'm not questioning thate they like each other and my play nicely (aside from Barbosa they are nice guys I believe)...But last time I checked it was about winning games.
Having a fice fit helps you win more games then having Allen Iverson or Zach Randolph on your team.

[mudyez]

agree as for the iverson and randolph part...but its not like there where no better options here and there...but I like seeing at least one team beeing build with an idea in mind...most if the teams are lookig like drafted by the PS3 or via a rating list

[Chieflion]

agree as for the iverson and randolph part...but its not like there where no better options here and there...but I like seeing at least one team beeing build with an idea in mind...most if the teams are lookig like drafted by the PS3 or via a rating list
I agree. Dwight Howard surrounded by no shooters sucked.

[VivaPopovich]

Pacers:
its a little to much scoring and not enought rebounding and so on...Carter and Kobe need the ball in their hands, so where does it leave Nash...ould be fun to watch the team though! I'd like to do a deal for Diaw...aybe involving Shaq (but not straight up). So let me know!

Believe me, this isn't going to be a soft team by the end of the draft.

And Nash will be leading the fast break with Kobe and Carter on the wings. :king

[Chieflion]

Believe me, this isn't going to be a soft team by the end of the draft.

And Nash will be leading the fast break with Kobe and Carter on the wings. :king
How are Kobe and Carter going to play together? Both of them are SGs.

[mudyez]

How are Kobe and Carter going to play together? Both of them are SGs.

no problem with that...SG? SF?who cares...both are athletic!


Believe me, this isn't going to be a soft team by the end of the draft.

And Nash will be leading the fast break with Kobe and Carter on the wings. :king

what is it orth if your benchplayer are hard nosed while playing like 25 minutes alltogether?

[VivaPopovich]

How are Kobe and Carter going to play together? Both of them are SGs.

Carter at SF

If this becomes a big issue I will restructure the team after the simulation. For now it's fine. I definitely have the firepower to make some trades happen

[Chieflion]

no problem with that...SG? SF?who cares...both are athletic!



what is it orth if your benchplayer are hard nosed while playing like 25 minutes alltogether?
Average age of Kobe, Carter and Nash is 33. According to the original rules to draft for now and the future, this team's big three would not last long together.

[VivaPopovich]

Average age of Kobe, Carter and Nash is 33. According to the original rules to draft for now and the future, this team's big three would not last long together.

Like in the NBA, young players have become totally overrated in this draft, especially young players that haven't even produced yet. This team is a contender to win 3 titles in a row, I'll take it. As far as the future goes, I'm not capable of seeing past the 3rd title. Don't think I'd want to either

And every other player will be around for awhile

Like I said, if this becomes too problematic I will make some trades happen after the simulation. If I'm stuck at least I'm stuck in a good situation :lobt2:

[hsxvvd]

Basically you cant fail with building around LeBron, even if every pick is autopicked and every single time the others try to skrew you. overall I think they need. a little bit to much offense with martin, lewis and mo in the starting lineup. I'm not interested in any of hi players (at least not the ones that should be available)

Agree, your never going to suck with LeBron, but it isn't easy to build a winner around him.

Obviously, drafting Lewis & Martin, was to surround LeBron with shooters, imagine the looks these guys would get with LeBron. I love the LeBron/Lewis match up nightmare it would cause opponents, add Martin to the mix and the offence is unstopable. With Mo Williams, Prince, Battier it's raining 3's all night. Probably need some inside presence at the offensive end but plenty of penetration & shooting. Neither Oden or K.Love (My 8th Pick) really provide the threat I need, but I'd envision using LeBron in the post.

On the defensive end, I was getting a little worried early on, but with Battier & Prince the team is capable of really shutting opponents down. If Oden realises his potential, and with Kevin Love on the boards, this team could be very scary on the defensive end. It lacks a little speed, to keep up with Harris' and Parker's of the league, but plenty of length and defensive savy.

Intangibles: No doubt, LeBron is the star. The remainder of the team are built to maximise his skill-set. It's a good team today, but the future is even brighter, all players share the same window, and guys like Battier & Prince (the eldest players on the team) are the type of veteren glue guys who would fit the bill perfect when the remainder of the team hits it's peak. I also think I've left needs that can be addressed in the last 4 rounds of the draft.

[Chieflion]

Like in the NBA, young players have become totally overrated in this draft, especially young players that haven't even produced yet. This team is a contender to win 3 titles in a row, I'll take it

And every other player will be around for awhile

Like I said, if this becomes too problematic I will make some trades happen after the simulation. If I'm stuck at least I'm stuck in a good situation :lobt2:
I love my young players who have produced though. Thanks a lot. But I would appreciate it if I could get Carter or Kobe.

[VivaPopovich]

I love my young players who have produced though. Thanks a lot. But I would appreciate it if I could get Carter or Kobe.

Everyone is on the table after the simulation. A total overhaul afterwards is likely (especially if we're going to have a popularity contest), unless we're also committing these teams to a fantasy roster.

On your team I'm interested in most of those guys: Chauncey, Millsap, Gordon, Beasley. I especially like the Millsap/Beasley combo but chose to stay away from it for now.

[Chieflion]

I am also particularly interested in Joe Johnson and Dwyane Wade. But mudyez would not give up his superstar as he is the only SG he has on his team.

Some Barbosa stats for people who think he sucks.

He is my super sixth man. Averaging 24.4 minutes in Pheonix last season, he averaged 14.2 points in 24.4 minutes which is a lot. He also averages 1.2 steals and has a 48.2% field goal percentage which is really efficient. His playmaking may suck, but that is not what he is in the team for.

Beasley is also my 6th man deluxe type of guy. When he gets his deserved minutes, he produces. Getting his 13.9 points in 24.8 minutes with Wade having a high usage rate, Beasley stepped up for the Heat and played off the bench partly due to his poor defense which Erik Spoelstra has been working with him for. He got his increased minutes towards the end of the season and played well towards the end. Getting more minutes (30 and above) lead to Beasley having a higher FG% at 50.7% instead of 47.2% and to average about 17 points when he plays more than 30 minutes. As a tweener, the Heat will look to play Beasley more at SF. If I am unable to move either Millsap or Beasley, he would be playing backup SF minutes and some at 3rd string PF.

Paul Millsap is a power forward who is extremely good rebounder and scorer when he needs to. Getting 19 straight doubles doubles and being a Carlos Boozer replacement when Boozer was "out", he gained recognition throughout the league for being a capable starting PF and has the Jazz looking for trade proposals for Boozer in this off-season.

Eric Gordon is my young stud who has the ability to be the next Ben Gordon, somehow they have the same surname. However, Eric Gordon has higher potential than Ben because of his body at a 6 foot 9 wingspan. I just looked that up. Freaking gay. His no step vertical is 32 inches but his max vertical is 40 inches. His athletic ability is outstanding. An explosive combo guard who scores 16.1 PPG if Baron Davis, Zach Randolph and ballhog Al Thornton on your team is indeed impressive while getting 11.6 FGAs per game. This was with a poor start to the season which he quickly adjusted to while playing beside selfish teammates while being the only bright light on the team.

[mudyez]

I am also particularly interested in Joe Johnson and Dwyane Wade. But mudyez would not give up his superstar as he is the only SG he has on his team.

the SG issue is no problem s I could draft some...but its hard to get Wade if you only package 3rd and 4th rounders!

[VivaPopovich]

the SG issue is no problem s I could draft some...but its hard to get Wade if you only package 3rd and 4th rounders!

Maybe we can work something out for Nene after the sim. I have tons of SGs to spare.

[mudyez]

Everyone is on the table after the simulation. A total overhaul afterwards is likely (especially if we're going to have a popularity contest), unless we're also committing these teams to a fantasy roster.

On your team I'm interested in most of those guys: Chauncey, Millsap, Gordon, Beasley. I especially like the Millsap/Beasley combo but chose to stay away from it for now.

what do you want for diaw?

[mudyez]

On the defensive end, I was getting a little worried early on, but with Battier & Prince the team is capable of really shutting opponents down. If Oden realises his potential, and with Kevin Love on the boards, this team could be very scary on the defensive end. It lacks a little speed, to keep up with Harris' and Parker's of the league, but plenty of length and defensive savy.


prince and battier are the backups to lebron and marti, arent they? so your playing these two about 20 minutes in order to make prince and battier having an impact on defense?

[VivaPopovich]

what do you want for diaw?

I would be thrilled to have either Millsap or Beasley on my team (or both!) whether we do this by vote/sim/fantasy or all of the above!

[VivaPopovich]

I'm surprised someone took an interest in Boris Diaw, I thought he was one of the most underrated players in the league last season. Even in Phoenix I always saw the potential in him. He won't win me the popularity contest but I'm just glad to have him. Poor man's Odom for sure.

[mudyez]

Maybe we can work something out for Nene after the sim. I have tons of SGs to spare.

tons?

Carter
Kobe
(to some degree Salmons)

[VivaPopovich]

tons?

Carter
Kobe
(to some degree Salmons)

That can work. We'll talk about this after the sim. If he's simming 12 minute quarters I need instant firepower off the bench which was why I drafted Salmons.

When it gets down to vote I will opt to trade him. I already have enough offense.

[Chieflion]

the SG issue is no problem s I could draft some...but its hard to get Wade if you only package 3rd and 4th rounders!
Sorry about that. Hard to give up my big guns.

[Chieflion]

Everyone is on the table after the simulation. A total overhaul afterwards is likely (especially if we're going to have a popularity contest), unless we're also committing these teams to a fantasy roster.

On your team I'm interested in most of those guys: Chauncey, Millsap, Gordon, Beasley. I especially like the Millsap/Beasley combo but chose to stay away from it for now.
You were like PAUL MILLSAP in the chat room but I went like "too bad he is mine". Can't give up my veteran Billups now, I don't even have another PG that can shoot the rock. Eric Gordon can fill in the minutes but he is not a pure PG.

[mudyez]

That can work. We'll talk about this after the sim. If he's simming 12 minute quarters I need instant firepower off the bench which was why I drafted Salmons.

When it gets down to vote I will opt to trade him. I already have enough offense.

dont see me trading nene for salmons....could have gotten him for more than once now!

[Chieflion]

When Rogue got Bargnani, I was like damn. I wanted the guy. But I just realised the Bargnani-Bosh epic fail frontcourt combo and was like, forget it.

[mudyez]

Sorry about that. Hard to give up my big guns.

so you will understand, that I wont trade Wade until some other star is involved! He usually is a top4 pick in this draft...while thinking about it...if it doesnt involve kobe, lebron, cp3, howard, TD, Ming or Dirk there will be no Wade trade!

[VivaPopovich]

You were like PAUL MILLSAP in the chat room but I went like "too bad he is mine". Can't give up my veteran Billups now, I don't even have another PG that can shoot the rock. Eric Gordon can fill in the minutes but he is not a pure PG.

Yeah I could have sworn he was available. That was a total cock tease :lol

[mudyez]

When Rogue got Bargnani, I was like damn. I wanted the guy. But I just realised the Bargnani-Bosh epic fail frontcourt combo and was like, forget it.

bargs is still on the board!!!:rollin

nobody wants him for a reason!

[Chieflion]

Yeah I could have sworn he was available. That was a total cock tease :lol

No way under three people's eyes he slips past the 5th round. I said Beasley was gonna be THE STEAL of this fantasy draft, and he slips to the 8th round. Fucking unbelievable. Luckily, I was there to stop the autopick.

[Chieflion]

bargs is still on the board!!!:rollin

nobody wants him for a reason!
Really, oh ya, he took Maggette. Rogue and his 2007 Warriors duplication.

[mudyez]

No way under three people's eyes he slips past the 5th round. I said Beasley was gonna be THE STEAL of this fantasy draft, and he slips to the 8th round. Fucking unbelievable. Luckily, I was there to stop the autopick.

I'm not sure, what his rating was, but I'm sure, that there are still like 10 big guys out there right now, that have better ratings....as I said, ratings are not evrything, but it shows, that he isnt a steal (actually was surprised he was picked that early)

[Chieflion]

I'm not sure, what his rating was, but I'm sure, that there are still like 10 big guys out there right now, that have better ratings....as I said, ratings are not evrything, but it shows, that he isnt a steal (actually was surprised he was picked that early)
Ratings don't show everything. His potential and production does. That's why nba 2k9 is rigged. Anthony Randolph was picked too early.

[mudyez]

Ratings don't show everything. His potential and production does. That's why nba 2k9 is rigged. Anthony Randolph was picked too early.

yeah, basically it skrewes the whole idea...its nothing more than just doing the fantasie draft in 2k9...not the fun you have with those type of drafts usualy

but its the way we are going and so be it...as for that: you have to drat players that help you win....not lineups that make much sense

[VivaPopovich]

yeah, basically it skrewes the whole idea...its nothing more than just doing the fantasie draft in 2k9...not the fun you have with those type of drafts usualy

but its the way we are going and so be it...as for that: you have to drat players that help you win....not lineups that make much sense

Why compromise? After the sim we can re-shape our teams for the vote. But if there was a possibility of also converting these teams to fantasy lineups I don't see myself doing anything too drastic. But I'd still want Beasley and Millsap in that event lol

[Chieflion]

yeah, basically it skrewes the whole idea...its nothing more than just doing the fantasie draft in 2k9...not the fun you have with those type of drafts usualy

but its the way we are going and so be it...as for that: you have to drat players that help you win....not lineups that make much sense
I did better in that 30 team fantasy draft. I managed to steal Al Jefferson, Danny Dranger and Devin Harris and we went on win the championship.

[mudyez]

Why compromise? After the sim we can re-shape our teams for the vote. But if there was a possibility of also converting these teams to fantasy lineups I don't see myself doing anything too drastic. But I'd still want Beasley and Millsap in that event lol

I dont see anything like that happen...guess it will be nba2k and thats it...we might try to start something like a keeper league but I dont see it beeing created from this draft! (you need more teams for that and some of our teams allready pulled out (see clippers))

[Chieflion]

I dont see anything like that happen...guess it will be nba2k and thats it...we might try to start something like a keeper league but I dont see it beeing created from this draft! (you need more teams for that and some of our teams allready pulled out (see clippers))
After this, I was thinking of setting up a twist draft.

[mudyez]

I did better in that 30 team fantasy draft. I managed to steal Al Jefferson, Danny Dranger and Devin Harris and we went on win the championship.

I like those more too (only have been part of one)....teams just are more realistic...you get a better feeling of what a player is worth

[mudyez]

After this, I was thinking of setting up a twist draft.

what is that?

[Chieflion]

what that?
Its a draft where you draft your franchise player and start drafting from 1998-2009 for your 12 man squad, starting from the 1998 draft class or before. Then 1999, 2000, 2001 all the way to 2009.

[VivaPopovich]

Its a draft where you draft your franchise player and start drafting from 1998-2009 for your 12 man squad, starting from the 1998 draft class or before. Then 1999, 2000, 2001 all the way to 2009.

Sounds like fun. But please, do the draft via chat with a 2 minute time limit. And if the rounds are broken up in days keep the drafting going offline.

[mudyez]

sounds great...I would be in!

[hsxvvd]

prince and battier are the backups to lebron and marti, arent they? so your playing these two about 20 minutes in order to make prince and battier having an impact on defense?

I'd see LeBron, Lewis, Prince & Battier on the floor together depending on the match ups. They are all versitile enough to do so, LeBron does provide the freedom for creative line-ups. Given the players drafted since Martin, I'd probably see him being more of a 6th Man.

[mudyez]

I'd see LeBron, Lewis, Prince & Battier on the floor together depending on the match ups. They are all versitile enough to do so, LeBron does provide the freedom for creative line-ups. Given the players drafted since Martin, I'd probably see him being more of a 6th Man.

ok, aftr all the game wouldnt even care if you put shaq, oden, yao, Z and D12 on the court together....hm, I might trade Wade for some of those guys, doing it that way, showing that 2k9 isnt worth anything, when it comes to simming games

[hsxvvd]

Draft twist sounds great! Count me in.

[hsxvvd]

ok, aftr all the game wouldnt even care if you put shaq, oden, yao, Z and D12 on the court together....hm, I might trade Wade for some of those guys, doing it that way, showing that 2k9 isnt worth anything, when it comes to simming games

I'm not even talking 2k9, I think these guys would work well in a real game, unconvential I know, but they are all versitile guys who could share the ball handling and you'd run the offence though LeBron anyway, no matter who is on the court with him. The have the skills and length to cause havoc on defence too, but would be exposed by speedy point guards or dominant big men. Which is where you'd need to play Oden or Williams (best I can do)depending on the match-up.

[mudyez]

btw.: the wizards have to do at least one more pick (the 8th)....I'm all for just telling us both!

[hsxvvd]

It's Kevin Love. I've already PM'd Phila.

[mudyez]

ok...also have a second pick (round 9, the first)?

[hsxvvd]

No decisions there yet.

[Muser]

Sorry I wasn't there last night people & thanks for drafting for me anyway, i'll be here on friday.

[Rogue]

Sorry I wasn't there last night people & thanks for drafting for me anyway, i'll be here on friday.
Has Phila auto drafted someones you don't like? let me know if there are some, and I'll be very glad to have honest negotiations with you about roster moves.

[holcs50]

Bulls:
Major skrewup! No offense but after round 8 this team has no center and only one banger as PF. Smallball is nice and all(not in 2k) but this team doesnt make sense at all. I like Melo and Granger (had them together in such a thing too once) but B-Diddy isnt the PG to go with them (I had Nash) and the frontcourt is a mess. I'm willing to talk about Granger or Harrington. Maybe you could even get Shaq, which would rescue the lineup


:rollin:rollin:rollin

Lineups sick! ha. Im willing to maybe trade for the diesel tho...harrington and someone else, pick. Again, don't know the game at all-last time i played a 2k was 07 on my ps3. Fantasy is my thing, but yea im just putting big guards/forwards out there, spreading the court-plus i had to get BD and jax-personal preference. This will be fun for a little while, but fantasy is where its at, that way everyone is on the same page-has the same information available to them and can use their bball knowledge as well as stats to pick a team. This draft would be so different if it was fantasy haha.

When was the last update they did for 2k9-after the season was over?

[urunobili]

Trade Proposal:

Luis Scola for Trevor Ariza

Pucho!!! what do you think?

[Rogue]

Trade Proposal:

Luis Scola for Trevor Ariza

Pucho!!! what do you think?
Ariza is overrated so it's a bad deal for you to purchase him at the expense of Scola. If you want a decent SF then I think Maggette is a nice option, Maggette looks ugly though. :lol

[Chieflion]

It's Kevin Love. I've already PM'd Phila.
Nice pick. Kevin Love is an extremely good rebounder with a good outlet pass to start that freak fast break you have.

[Chieflion]

Ariza is overrated so it's a bad deal for you to purchase him at the expense of Scola. If you want a decent SF then I think Maggette is a nice option, Maggette looks ugly though. :lol
You just want Scola....

[Chieflion]

Come on guys, Millsap is available. Beasley is available. Any PG, SF, C up for grabs?

[Chieflion]

Trade Proposal:

Luis Scola for Trevor Ariza

Pucho!!! what do you think?
Is Bynum available?

[Rogue]

You just want Scola....
Don't you think it would be a bargain for me if Scola could be had for Maggette?

[Chieflion]

Don't you think it would be a bargain for me if Scola could be had for Maggette?
Scola's defense is the pits. Your defense is already really lousy. Look for a center first. Scola would not get any burn on your team anyway. You got your boy in blue, Dirk and Blake Griffin.

[Brazil]

agree as for the iverson and randolph part...but its not like there where no better options here and there...but I like seeing at least one team beeing build with an idea in mind...most if the teams are lookig like drafted by the PS3 or via a rating list

This is exactly our philosophy, we are building a team trying to mix quality players to get a good chemistry not thinking about 2k9 stuff. If it's true in 2k9 arenas has a better ranking than Bosh or even Iggy then this game is useless to properly evaluate a team.

The team is young with only 2 guys over 25 and he is leaded by a great player Billups. All we need now is to fix some weaknesses by trade or draft and we will have a contender for now AND for the future. On top of that we have a pretty good frontcourt as a foundation with Bosh / Bogut (this guy is underated he is a double double while shooting 58%, Bosh will have a lot space to play) / Millsap almost double double guy / Beasley.

[Brazil]

oh and props to the spurs team ! I like this team.

[Chieflion]

The one weakness with Pucho!!!'s team is that he has no proper center. Al Jefferson sucks at defending centers and Brad Miller does not do anything much except shooting that 16 foot jumper of his. Otherwise, it is all good.

[mudyez]

:rollin:rollin:rollin

Lineups sick! ha. Im willing to maybe trade for the diesel tho...harrington and someone else, pick. Again, don't know the game at all-last time i played a 2k was 07 on my ps3. Fantasy is my thing, but yea im just putting big guards/forwards out there, spreading the court-plus i had to get BD and jax-personal preference. This will be fun for a little while, but fantasy is where its at, that way everyone is on the same page-has the same information available to them and can use their bball knowledge as well as stats to pick a team. This draft would be so different if it was fantasy haha.

When was the last update they did for 2k9-after the season was over?

yeah, you will winn the FT, 3Pt, Steals and Assist cats...wait! ITS NOT FANTASY AS YOU KNOW IT!!!

how about Nene instead of shaq for Al, someone else + pick?

[Chieflion]

I can't wait for the next 5 rounds, gonna be sweet.

[mudyez]

I can't wait for the next 5 rounds, gonna be sweet.

yeah, but not that important...there are a lot of good players available but with al of our stars, we would be stupid to let player 9to12 play more than 10 minutes the whole game

[Chieflion]

yeah, but not that important...there are a lot of good players available but with al of our stars, we would be stupid to let player 9to12 play more than 10 minutes the whole game
Still some more guys who can have huge roles. I have faith in them.

[mudyez]

Still some more guys who can have huge roles. I have faith in them.

I wouldnt say, that I'm not looking forward to it, but I think the race wont change coz of these rounds (with the exception of the centerless team).

I think, Kobe and Carter should share about 80 minutes....Salmons gets the other 16...so why be excited about other wings drafted late?...its not even, that you have to fear injury!

[Chieflion]

I wouldnt say, that I'm not looking forward to it, but I think the race wont change coz of these rounds (with the exception of the centerless team).

I think, Kobe and Carter should share about 80 minutes....Salmons gets the other 16...so why be excited about other wings drafted late?...its not even, that you have to fear injury!
Are you confusing me with Vivapopovich? I run the freaking Cavs.

[mudyez]

not saying that you are him ...just wanted to say, that its not that important anymore for everyone else

with your team its basically the same...who cares whos your 5th big man?

I wont break a sweat when someone is picking before me!

[Brazil]

not saying that you are him ...just wanted to say, that its not that important anymore for everyone else

with your team its basically the same...who cares whos your 5th big man?

I wont break a sweat when someone is picking before me!

Having good role players is key, for me the last round is maybe the tougher one to manage, you need to fill your team need and think about trade opportunities. I wouldn't say you can ruin the potential of your team with those players but you can put your team on the good side of the contention if you are border.

[mudyez]

real teams shorten their playoff rosters for a reason...and they are living in a league where the talent is spread over 30 teams.
I think it can be fun to take kind of roleplayers, but I dont see these 4 picks playing a double digit number of minutes alltogether for me as I want Wade, Parker and Co as long on the field as possible to torch opposing 12th men.

[mudyez]

just to make it clear: I#m ll for roleplayers and so on...in real life those rounds are important....just not for the nba2k stuff


and yeah, even while focusing on that, I might get sweped out of the first round.

[Pucho!!!]

Trade Proposal:

Luis Scola for Trevor Ariza

Pucho!!! what do you think?

Sorry man, but no thanx. I have no need for scola. true I need sum bigmen on the bench, but I'm confident that I can get sum vet bigs in these last rounds. And for the person that underrates Ariza, u may not think he's so great, but for the way my team's built, he's perfect. He will be my perimeter defensive stopper. With the make up of my team, players can be mixed and matched to the coach Pops desires :smokin

[Pucho!!!]

The one weakness with Pucho!!!'s team is that he has no proper center. Al Jefferson sucks at defending centers and Brad Miller does not do anything much except shooting that 16 foot jumper of his. Otherwise, it is all good.

Although, 2k9 has Big Al has a PF, in reality, he is the Wolves C. He may not be that effective at guarding opposing Cs at the moment, but he's only 24, so he's got plenty of time to learn. In sayin that, he is my C and a true one if u watch his game and examine his skillset. I suggest we put up our startin 5, with positions marked, after we finish everything or we could now. I got brad miller becuz of his passing and shooting ability, allowing him with my other 2 bigs to be mixed and matched. True, his D is pretty weak, but like I said b4 my teams D is not predicated on any one player (much like the actual spurs) and instead on team defensive concept. Now, do I think Big Al is as good defensively as Duncan-HELL NO! but do I think he could be one day esp if he played on a defensive minded team like the Spurs, maybe.

I drafted nelson cuz I wanted a speedy guard with excellent shooting ability and can easily penetrate any defense and I drafted Crawford as my 6th man, combo guard. We all still have 5 rds to go to c who's team is really the best, so once again good luck to all.

[mudyez]

same with me...

...my team is not that great coz of good players but you you have to know this: I'm running a great offensive system (think triangle offense but better...I call it "pentagon") and on the other end I'm also running something like the defensive concept of the spurs or 04pistons (also better coz there is that new trick wich makes rotations go way faster...also hard to explain...we call it "year 3000 defense" coz its something that we got from aliens, which told us, that the wold will be ready for it in about 991 years)....its pretty hard to understand, but the players know it to perfection, therefore stopping whoever wants to score...its made to stop Kobe, as it does LeBron and Howard.

after all I have PJ which build the Spurs systems!!!


give me the title!


NOW!


















;)

[VivaPopovich]

I don't agree with the idea that the remaining picks are totally insignificant, especially if you really do want a team for "now and the future" the bench is pivotal. Bench players eventually transition to becoming star players, or at least that's how Red did it. Big Nate and Salmons are spark plugs off the bench for me and would take on more dominant roles as my big 3 become older.

Two other keys for having a bench is limiting playing time during the regular season (crucial if you have older players, not like you want to play young players to death anyways) and being able to play with different lineups. With Odom and Diaw I can run and gun or stick them at the 3 and play half court sets. Another advantage is being able to make trades knowing you still have firepower on the bench. A good bench is also insurance against injuries.

Anyone that thinks the next picks don't matter I'm more than willing to autopick for you. Hope you like Cobe Karl ;)

[mudyez]

future? after the sim I will have forgotten quickly!

regular season? there is no regular season!

lineups? the game isnt like: uh, Z cant guard D12 and Turk is bigger than West! its about overall and not matchups as much as I hate that! Some with styles.

making trades? I agree on that one! all the players I will pick the next 4 rounds are up for grabs...you have to know, that they are very important!

I will appreaciate picking guys that suit my team, maybe even doing trades. Its not that I'm not looking forward to it. But if all is said and done, it wont make much of a difference, if I get Cobe Karl or say Jordan Farmer, as none of them will get a minute of on court time.

BTW.: Puch!!! Will be some work to set up the rosters, rotations and the style of the team/coach...can we pm them to you after the last round? Can we change rototons and so on depending on the opponent?

sorry, for beeing the asshole here. I'm happy you appreciate it and I like doing it. I actually like ou all! It just feels weird beeing caught between nba2k and real life, seeing teams building for the future, while there isnt a future involved, seeing teams telling their coach will make the difference, while it doesnt matter as long as you are not inteterested in seeing the animation of Phill or Pop, seeing teams building teams that make sense, when the in game simulation doesnt make that much sense at all.

I think nba2k is a way to do it, but not the best way, coz of the mentioned reasons. Maybe I will hold another draft later which does it a different way (or maybe we are doing that twist thing!!!).

final conclusion: I think most if not all of our teams are that good that the offense-, defense-, overall- meter will be extremely high...its natural if you only take the better half of all the available players! Bostons real team has 9/9/9, so nearly every of our teams should have something in the range of 8/8/8! for that reason the difference will be very slightly...BTW.: I THINK THE WHOLE SIMULATION IS ONLY BASED ON THESE RATINGS!!!therefore its more like a lottery and no one will see his work really beeing mirrored by the game.

I know its more than the game, but that is exactely where I have the problem with...I just dont get sucked into getting certain players....if marion isnt there, I'll take Green, if Green isnt there, I'll go for Salmons and so on. I just doesnt really matter.

[Chieflion]

Although, 2k9 has Big Al has a PF, in reality, he is the Wolves C. He may not be that effective at guarding opposing Cs at the moment, but he's only 24, so he's got plenty of time to learn. In sayin that, he is my C and a true one if u watch his game and examine his skillset. I suggest we put up our startin 5, with positions marked, after we finish everything or we could now. I got brad miller becuz of his passing and shooting ability, allowing him with my other 2 bigs to be mixed and matched. True, his D is pretty weak, but like I said b4 my teams D is not predicated on any one player (much like the actual spurs) and instead on team defensive concept. Now, do I think Big Al is as good defensively as Duncan-HELL NO! but do I think he could be one day esp if he played on a defensive minded team like the Spurs, maybe.

I drafted nelson cuz I wanted a speedy guard with excellent shooting ability and can easily penetrate any defense and I drafted Crawford as my 6th man, combo guard. We all still have 5 rds to go to c who's team is really the best, so once again good luck to all.
In reality, Al Jefferson is still a PF because of the sucky Wolves centers and that Kevin Love is also a PF.

[mudyez]

In reality, Al Jefferson is still a PF because of the sucky Wolves centers and that Kevin Love is also a PF.

I like l as a center, but you have to admit that he had problems offensively as defensively against bigger players...guys like haywood get him eve though the are way less talented than him.

hopefully he matures into a true center though.

[Pucho!!!]

In reality, Al Jefferson is still a PF because of the sucky Wolves centers and that Kevin Love is also a PF.

ok, that doesn't make much sense, but here's sumthing that does. Go to the team website and u can c that he's listed as C/F, not the other way around. From what I've seen of his game, he plays pretty close to the basket much like a C. He's still 24, and u guys underrate him. He had 34 pts 22 reb and 4 stls vs the rockets this past season. That's against the rockets startin and backup bigmen (and yes Yao played-he played 36 min, about as many min as Big Al (38 min)) . He avg 23pts and 11 reb as a C. I think the wolves havin sucky Cs is more a testament to their confidence in Jefferson doin a good job. I still think there's plenty of room for him to improve and at only 24, he's got tons of upside.

[mudyez]

way to much importance to positions: lets say there are insideplayers, wings and pointguards...and you always try to get different types (it doesnt make sinse if you only have guys like muphy inside or elonte wests on the wings)...after all every player that falls out of position just means, there will be a mismatch for both teams (at least most of the times).

as long as the on court balance is ok, it doesnt matter if its a C or a PF...and the optimal balance has switched to more mobile PF's and even Centers anyway in the last 10 years.

[Chieflion]

way to much importance to positions: lets say there are insideplayers, wings and pointguards...and you always try to get different types (it doesnt make sinse if you only have guys like muphy inside or elonte wests on the wings)...after all every player that falls out of position just means, there will be a mismatch for both teams (at least most of the times).

as long as the on court balance is ok, it doesnt matter if its a C or a PF...and the optimal balance has switched to more mobile PF's and even Centers anyway in the last 10 years.
You can't do that. First, guys like Murphy don't really play the inside. My backup PFs are more or less undersized, albeit way faster than most PFs. The last thing I need is another one of those guys. Everyone needs a good enforcer for a back up center.

[mudyez]

You can't do that. First, guys like Murphy don't really play the inside. My backup PFs are more or less undersized, albeit way faster than most PFs. The last thing I need is another one of those guys. Everyone needs a good enforcer for a back up center.

as I said: you try to have differnt types...murphy alone wont do it, but for like 10 minutes per games as smallball to pull e.g. shaq to the outside, its a nice idea, two real C's on the court together will work to for several minutes as you can cloak the lane and get every rebound...I'm just against all this "he is a SF and not a SG stuff...to a certain degree it doesnt matter at all (me as a coach isnt caring a lot about this type of stuff....I want do get rebounds, handle the ball, score and defend...if I have lockdown defenders on the berimeter, I dont need the shotblocker as much and if I have shooters, I might add some rebounding...if the SG or the C gets the rebound doesnt matter at all)

[sa_kid20]

I updated our rosters to this point in NBA 2K9 and ran a few simulations. Pretty interesting stuff.

[mudyez]

I updated our rosters to this point in NBA 2K9 and ran a few simulations. Pretty interesting stuff.

thought about that too...only created my team (couldnt find andre miller...not on FA's, 76er nor POR) but he has to be in(I know he is)...so I know my ratings and my weakness...but I dont know if it matters at all (as I said, I cant see really good team inning it always or weak teams having a good chance making ist)

just one question: was there one team (dont need to tell which) that really stood out and won often?

[sa_kid20]

thought about that too...only created my team (couldnt find andrea miller...not on FA's, 76er no POR)...so I know my ratings and my weakness...but I dont know if it matters at all (as I said, I cant see really good team inning it always or weak teams having a good chance making ist)

just one question: was there one team (dont need to tell which) that really stood out and won often?

Actually there were 2 teams that were clearly better than the rest. One team that was good but not as good as those two and about 4 teams that really didn't do much. Everyone else was about average.

[mudyez]

that surprises me...maybe our teams matter actually :)

[VivaPopovich]

Actually there were 2 teams that were clearly better than the rest. One team that was good but not as good as those two and about 4 teams that really didn't do much. Everyone else was about average.

Which ones protector of secrets

[sa_kid20]

that surprises me...maybe our teams matter actually :)

Well we still need 5 more rounds which could really change things a lot IMO but yeah i was kinda surprised that there were a few times that really stood out over the others.

[mudyez]

Which ones protector of secrets

if he tells us, there might be teams pulling out/losing interest, coz they know they suck!

[Chieflion]

Actually there were 2 teams that were clearly better than the rest. One team that was good but not as good as those two and about 4 teams that really didn't do much. Everyone else was about average.
I know my team is a piece of shit on nba 2k9. Mine should be one of the four teams.

[mudyez]

my bet:

2 tops are pacers and spurs

not sure about the third team...maybe Warriors or Wizards...lets say wizz

and the bottom 4 are (not offense! its just a guess): Magic, Bulls, Kings and (not so sure on that one) maybe really the Cavs

maybe its even me, who sucks big time...but I would guess I'm in the middle of the pack.

[Chieflion]

Any team with LeBron would finish first. Bah. Real life is better than video fail games.

[Chieflion]

If we are doing the twist draft, I need 5 judges. Since I am unable to show up on weekdays in the morning, (America's night), I will need another person who will be able to co-organise it and 5 people to judge. (Organisers can be judges too.)

[Chieflion]

11 hours and 58 minutes to Wizards pick round 9.

[mudyez]

just went through all the names I like and now I'm kind of excited in the end!

still looking to do trades....Especially Shaq, Parker and Jamison are on the block. Marion for a fair price too!

[Chieflion]

just went through all the names I like and now I'm kind of excited in the end!

still looking to do trades....Especially Shaq, Parker and Jamison are on the block. Marion for a fair price too!
Won't let you have your way. Name me Shaq's price.

[Brazil]

I know my team is a piece of shit on nba 2k9. Mine should be one of the four teams.

dpg after the first round said cavs did well on 2k9 with spurs hawks and warriors something like that.

whatever 2k9 sucks, arenas>bosh and iggy:lmao

[Chieflion]

dpg after the first round said cavs did well on 2k9 with spurs hawks and warriors something like that.

whatever 2k9 sucks, arenas>bosh and iggy:lmao
Really? Woohoo. Guess fit works well on 2k9 after all. Until Arenas proves he is back at 2006 form, he can jolly well go eat shit.