Pick the best right now's SEMIFINAL: Wade vs Tim

[DAF86]

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Who would you rather have to win the next season?

[kamikazi_player]

Timothy Duncan

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

How come the y comes first in Dwyane yet its pronounced like Dwayne?

[DAF86]

How come the y comes first in Dwyane yet its pronounced like Dwayne?

I also thought it was Dwayne before.

[Hornets1]

Wade.

Kobe vs. Lebron SHOULDN"T be a Semifinal matchup, it should be the final matchup.

[JamStone]

This poll might give a better indication of Spurs fan bias or impartiality.

It's Dwyane Wade, especially considering the title says "right now."

[BUMP]

Well if Tim manages to win this one, then the Final will be Spurfan vs BUMP's trolls

[DAF86]

Wade.

Kobe vs. Lebron SHOULDN"T be a Semifinal matchup, it should be the final matchup.

I actually had the the title written: "Lebron vs Tim" but then I changed it 'cause I think this way is more interesting and 'cause I wanted to make sure that there was a "Kobe vs Lebron" matchup.

[monosylab1k]

Well if Tim manages to win this one, then the Final will be Spurfan vs BUMP's trolls

You have the backing of the Mono Troll Army as well.

[dirk4mvp]

Wade, easily. Spur fan should slap themselves for picking Duncan in this poll.

[dirk4mvp]

Yeah, I get the feeling Tim will only win because this is a Spurs board. Wade had a much better season last year, but in all honest that is because Wade had to play his hardest every night for that heat team to win, and he did it to prove to the world how good he was.

If Duncan had to be the major player by far he might have been able to do what Wade did. But that is unproven until that situation comes up.

Wade > Chamberlain

[Pistons < Spurs]

Wade.

[cnyc3]

ill vote wade if OP stops making these threads

[LnGrrrR]

Wade.

Kobe vs. Lebron SHOULDN"T be a Semifinal matchup, it should be the final matchup.

Eh, what's the big difference? Whoever wins that matchup should win the whole enchilada.

[eisfeld]

As much as I hate to say it: Dwyane Wade...

[23LeBronJames23]

Dwyane Wade..
Nuff said!

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Wade.
Voted Duncan anyways.

[spursfan1000]

id choose Duncan anyday, there are so many guards you could replace wade, but there are not too many PF's like Duncan out there.

[ginobili's bald spot]

What this poll really tells us is that 35% of spur fans on this board are complete dumbass homers with no credibility whatsoever.

[Muser]

Wade

[PBEEZY]

Wade...ez call

[urunobili]

Manu > Wade :stirpot:

[manufor3]

wade, but voted for duncan.

[resistanze]

You asked two questions.

1) Who's better right now? Wade quite clearly.

2) Who would you rather have to win the next season? Not so sure.

Voted for Wade anyways. And Duncan is my favorite player of all-time.

[DAF86]

ill vote wade if OP stops making these threads

You don't have to vote if you don't want to.

[DJB]

In their prime? Duncan. Right now? Wade.

[Findog]

Wade

[23LeBronJames23]

Manu > Wade :stirpot:

mo williams>manu

[BUMP]

if Wade was a Maverick would he be winning this poll?

[djohn2oo8]

Wade

[anonoftheinternets]

Wade.
Voted Duncan anyways.

[anonoftheinternets]

if Wade was a Maverick would he be winning this poll?

lol u mad?

[JamStone]

In their prime? Duncan.

Wade is just beginning the prime of his career so that's yet to be determined. It will probably end up being Duncan because it would take multiple more titles and MVPs for Wade to catch up, but you can't say Duncan in his prime since Wade hasn't even come close to finishing his prime.



Right now? Wade.

And you didn't have to split up the question. The title of the thread says "right now." Why make the clarification when there wasn't anything vague about the poll?

[Cry Havoc]

Voted for Wade, though it's close. Duncan still impacts the game defensively moreso than Wade does, but Wade is just unstoppable when healthy.

And :lmao at the haters on this thread for Spurs fans voting for Duncan. If this were ANY other sports site for a particular team, it would be a hell of a lot more skewed than here at Spurstalk. If you posted "who's better, Wade or Kobe" to a Miami Heat forum (assuming there are any), you would see 10 times the homerism. If you posted, "Who's better, Kobe or Jordan" to Lakersground, homers would come out of the woodwork like an assembly line to fellate Kobe. At Spurstalk, possibly the most loved and respected player in Spurs HISTORY is being outvoted primarily by Spurs fans, and you continue to hate on the small majority that cannot vote against the best PF of all time.

So, congrats for saying there are homers on this forum. Your sleuthing skills are only unmatched by your ability to bitch and whine about an argument that's been around for as long as Spurstalk has. And yet you keep coming back here, and continuing to moan. It would be hilarious if it weren't so incredulously stupid.


if Wade was a Maverick would he be winning this poll?

Nah. Cause if Wade was a Maverick it would increase his estrogen level by about 400%, he would start whining about how little respect he gets, and he'd only score about 8 points per game.

[Greg Oden]

lol at Cry Havoc making an attempt at a funny, which was indeed unfunny.

[DJB]

Wade is just beginning the prime of his career so that's yet to be determined. It will probably end up being Duncan because it would take multiple more titles and MVPs for Wade to catch up, but you can't say Duncan in his prime since Wade hasn't even come close to finishing his prime.




And you didn't have to split up the question. The title of the thread says "right now." Why make the clarification when there wasn't anything vague about the poll?


Actually it is quite vague... If we're voting on the BEST right now then what do you mean by best? Accrobatic moves and finishes and highlight material that fills the seats with fans? Or are we talking about who's the BEST at giving their team the BEST chance at winning and doing just that? If it's the ladder, I take Duncan any day of the week. Dwyane Wade doesn't make his teammates better and he hasn't even come close to making his team a playoff threat since 2006. The only reason they even won it in 2006 is because the Dallas Mavericks are a fucking joke.

FYI, I didn't vote and usually don't.

[z0sa]

I'd still go with Tim Duncan, being as objective as I can. It's real close though.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I'd go with Wade, mostly cause basketball has gone from being big man oriented to needing a good SG.

[sonic21]

wade.
Duncan hasn't won a gold medal

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

wade.
Duncan hasn't won a gold medal


Sharif Abdur-Rahim > Tim Duncan

[Shastafarian]

lol Joe Johnson

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

lol Argentinian Spurs fan

[Shastafarian]

lol Argentinian Spurs fan

You think I'm Argentinian?


The better player right now is Wade. It's closer than most think simply because Tim has the ability to be a great defender still. He can also still take over games. Wade is just younger and more explosive.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

You think I'm Argentinian?


The better player right now is Wade. It's closer than most think simply because Tim has the ability to be a great defender still. He can also still take over games. Wade is just younger and more explosive.


Just a guess.


And yeah I agree it's still close. If I had to build a team around a certain player, Wade and Duncan would be the two behind Lebron and Kobe.

[Shastafarian]

I'm not Argentinian. But I do play one on the internet.

[DAF86]

lol thinking you have to be Argentinian to know that Manu is a better player than Joe Johnson.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

lol thinking you have to be Argentinian to know that Manu is a better player than Joe Johnson.


lol thinking most non-Spurs fans think Manu > JJ

[BUMP]

Manu>JJ

how the hell is JJ so special?

[DAF86]

lol thinking most non-Spurs fans think Manu > JJ

lol comparing a hall of famer to JJ.

[DAF86]

Manu>JJ

how the hell is JJ so special?

Ask DOK.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

lol comparing a hall of famer to JJ.


Funny you mention that, basketball reference gives Manu a 5% shot at making the HOF.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Manu>JJ

how the hell is JJ so special?


How the hell is someone who has career averages of 14.7 PPG on 45.4% shooting so special?

[DAF86]

Funny you mention that, basketball reference gives Manu a 5% shot at making the HOF.

lol basketball reference.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

lol basketball reference.


lol claiming you know more than basketball-reference.

[DAF86]

lol claiming you know more than basketball-reference.

I bet the dude that said that Manu has a 5 % of making the hall doesn't even know who Drazen Dalipagic is.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I bet the dude that said that Manu has a 5 % of making the hall doesn't even know who Drazen Dalipagic is.


It's not one person, it's a system that site created that has usually been accurate. I think Manu's chances are a lot higher than 5%, but I don't think he's this first ballot lock like you think he is.

[DPG21920]

Manu has a 99% chance of making the HOF.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Manu has a 99% chance of making the HOF.


So does Trajon Langdon.

[LnGrrrR]

To be fair, I think that equation just works off of NBA statistics... not sure.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

It's pretty sad you can play against a bunch of minor leaguers and make the HOF over NBA players way better than you.

[DAF86]

It's pretty sad you can play against a bunch of minor leaguers and make the HOF over NBA players way better than you.

It'd also be pretty sad that great players like Gallis, Oscar Schmidt and others that had the talent to be stars in the NBA but didn't make it for one reason or the other don't make it to the HoF just because they weren't born in the States.

[DPG21920]

It's pretty sad you can play against a bunch of minor leaguers and make the HOF over NBA players way better than you.

You clearly don't understand the HOF. Haven't we already explained this to you?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

It'd also be pretty sad that great players like Gallis, Oscar Schmidt and others that had the talent to be stars in the NBA but didn't make it for one reason or the other don't make it to the HoF just because they weren't born in the States.


So by that same logic, it's an injustice Ralph Sampson isn't in the HoF because he had the talent to be a star but didn't last for reasons out of his control, right?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

You clearly don't understand the HOF. Haven't we already explained this to you?


I understand it. I'm just saying it's stupid.

[DPG21920]

Funny you mention that, basketball reference gives Manu a 5% shot at making the HOF.

This shows you don't get it.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

This shows you don't get it.


Explain. I know, the 5% stat doesn't factor in all his minor league achievements which will be the reason he gets in the HoF.

[DAF86]

So by that same logic, it's an injustice Ralph Sampson isn't in the HoF because he had the talent to be a star but didn't last for reasons out of his control, right?

Your body and the ability to remain injury free is part of your talent as a basketball player too.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Your body and the ability to remain injury free is part of your talent as a basketball player too.


Why is it you didn't say this once in the Manu vs. JJ and Manu vs. Dirk thread?

[dirk4mvp]

Why is it you didn't say this once in the Manu vs. JJ and Manu vs. Dirk thread?

Cuz he didn't want to look like a bigger idiot that he already did.

[DPG21920]

Explain. I know, the 5% stat doesn't factor in all his minor league achievements which will be the reason he gets in the HoF.

Because either you were being intellectually dishonest in trying to help your argument by posting that as a credible source knowing the 5% does not take into consideration why Manu will make it or you really don't understand and you posted it trying to disprove that Manu will be a HOF'er.

[DAF86]

Besides is not like the HoF gives equal chances to NBA and FIBA players to make the hall.

To be a FIBA HoF basketball player besides beign a great basketball player you have to win a lot of things. If you're a great NBA player you can get in even if you don't win shit, which I think is a very reasonable thing to do.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Because either you were being intellectually dishonest in trying to help your argument by posting that as a credible source knowing the 5% does not take into consideration why Manu will make it or you really don't understand and you posted it trying to disprove that Manu will be a HOF'er.


Neither. I was posting it to show how far from the HoF Manu's NBA career was.

[DAF86]

Why is it you didn't say this once in the Manu vs. JJ and Manu vs. Dirk thread?

'Cause Manu has had only one serious injury in 15 years of playing profesional basketball.

[Dex]

I voted Duncan just because I felt like it.

Booyah.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Besides is not like the HoF gives equal chances to NBA and FIBA players to make the hall.

To be a FIBA HoF basketball player besides beign a great basketball player you have to win a lot of things. If you're a great NBA player you can get in even if you don't win shit, which I think is a very reasonable thing to do.

IMO they shouldn't try to make some FIBA - NBA exchange rate. They should have a FIBA HoF and an NBA HoF.

[DAF86]

Neither. I was posting it to show how far from the HoF Manu's NBA career was.

How JJ chances are?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

How JJ chances are?


If nothing besides your NBA accomplishments was a factor, he'd have a bigger chance than Manu.

[DAF86]

If nothing besides your NBA accomplishments was a factor, he'd have a bigger chance than Manu.

I'd like to see the basketball reference % please.

[DPG21920]

Neither. I was posting it to show how far from the HoF Manu's NBA career was.

So why did you just now say this after being called out?


It's not one person, it's a system that site created that has usually been accurate. I think Manu's chances are a lot higher than 5%, but I don't think he's this first ballot lock like you think he is.

Because if you do understand how the HOF works, even if you do not like it, you would not have said this first...

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

So why did you just now say this after being called out?



Because the if you do understand how the HOF works, even if you do not like it, you would not have said this first...


I have admitted to DAF before that Manu is probably a HoFer. It's not like I'm just now changing my stance.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I'd like to see the basketball reference % please.


Once I find the link again (I forgot where to go), I'll post it.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

He's actually not on the list, but we'll see about that once he's at the age Manu is at right now.

[DAF86]

Once I find the link again (I forgot where to go), I'll post it.

I just found it, it says: 0.020

I don't know if that's 20 % or 0.020 %

If it is the second: LOL! ;)

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I just found it, it says: 0.020

I don't know if that's 20 % or 0.020 %

If it is the second: LOL! ;)


It'd be 2%, 20% would be .2, I though the decimal-percent conversion was a staple in every 5th grade math class. I guess not.

[Brazil]

The ST homerism is overated

[BUMP]

lol San Antonio school system

[mavs>spurs2]

we once played a san antonio school deep in the playoffs or at a practice game right before playoffs i can't remember which. you guys suck at basketball just as bad as your school system sucks at education

[DAF86]

It'd be 2%, 20% would be .2, I though the decimal-percent conversion was a staple in every 5th grade math class. I guess not.


lol San Antonio school system

I'm not from San Antonio, I'm from Argentina and in Argentina the % is tought in hundreds not thousands, I know it's the same but we're more used to seeing and saying, for example, 100% instead of 1.000 %, that's why I didn't get the 0.020 right away.

Either way:

lol Manu > Joe Johnson for basketball reference also.

[BUMP]

we once played a san antonio school deep in the playoffs or at a practice game right before playoffs i can't remember which. you guys suck at basketball just as bad as your school system sucks at education

lol north texas winning all basketball championships

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

But based on the way it's calculated, if over the next 3 years, JJ makes 2 AS games (likely since he's made the last 3), raises his PPG to 20 (likely since his best years are ahead of him), his HoF % goes up to 16%

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I'm not from San Antonio, I'm from Argentina and in Argentina the % is tought in hundreds not thousands, I know it's the same but we're more used to seeing and saying, for example, 100% instead of 1.000 %


Same thing in America.

[DAF86]

Same thing in America.

Yeah but you with the Bassebeall stuff are more used to the 1.000% thing, in Argentina nobody uses it that way.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Yeah but you with the Bassebeall stuff are more used to the 1.000% thing, in Argentina nobody uses it that way.


I've never seen/used 1.000%.

[024]

the videos are biased. is "the superstar" the better player or "the world's greatest"? hmm...

[DAF86]

I've never seen/used 1.000%.

You never saw a basseball game?

[DAF86]

the videos are biased. is "the superstar" the better player or "the world's greatest"? hmm...

lol that should have been a Mavs fans/DOK comment.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

You never saw a basseball game?


No, baseball sucks. But I guess they do sometimes use that with batting average.

[ginobili's bald spot]

It'd be 2%, 20% would be .2, I though the decimal-percent conversion was a staple in every 5th grade math class. I guess not.

:lol

[z0sa]

Dont talk to DoK about the HoF. He knows absolutely nothing about it. In fact, he even thought there was an NBA HoF separately a few weeks ago. Probably explains why he now wishes there were 'separate' hall of fames.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

lol right triangles = music

[z0sa]

lol right triangles = music

Keep sayin' it, buddy. Anybody can go back to the thread and see what actually was said, after they are through laughing at your lack of basketball knowledge as you whine about Nash and the Suns' plummet into mediocrity or whatever it is you don't like about them.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Keep sayin' it, buddy. Anybody can go back to the thread and see what actually was said, after they are through laughing at your lack of basketball knowledge as you whine about Nash and the Suns' plummet into mediocrity or whatever it is you don't like about them.


Why can't you just post a link to the "Pythagorean System of Music" if you knew what you were talking about.

[z0sa]

Why can't you just post a link to the "Pythagorean System of Music" if you knew what you were talking about.

post a link to the NBA exclusive HoF :lol

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

post a link to the NBA exclusive HoF :lol


I admitted that doesn't exist.

[ginobili's bald spot]

What this poll really tells us is that 35% of spur fans on this board are complete dumbass homers with no credibility whatsoever.

Update: 42% of Spurfans are complete dumbass homers with no credibility whatsoever.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Update: 42% of Spurfans are complete dumbass homers with no credibility whatsoever.


You should visit the Manu vs. Dirk thread in the main section, and then give us a new update.

[z0sa]

I admitted that doesn't exist.

We know it wasn't a humbling experience for you, that's for sure. Nor the other thread where you called me on blocking shots and the posters overwhelmingly picked the option I professed. I am beginning to understand why you relentlessly attack me with your troll.

Look, I don't give a fuck. Put the shit talking to rest and I will do the same.

[JJ Hickson]

WTF is the Pythagorean System of Music?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

you relentlessly attack me with your troll.



My troll fucks with everyone. Not just you.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

We know it wasn't a humbling experience for you, that's for sure.


No, it wasn't. I made a mistake and I admitted it. Something you seem incapable of doing.

[z0sa]

No, it wasn't. I made a mistake and I admitted it. Something you seem incapable of doing.

I also admitted 'pythagorean system of music' is shorthand which my music instructor taught me concerning why our instruments (including voices) are the way they are, and that you'd discover its intricacies within 'music theory'. Indeed, if you correlate what i was saying with what pythagoras discovered concerning music, you might actually agree its a good term to use. If there is no wikipedia for it, my apologies.

[JJ Hickson]

I made up some shit to try to sound smart. Then I made up some other shit to cover my ass.

[Bob Lanier]

I voted for Duncan because his game is more pleasant to watch, but Wade's extra 15-20 whistles per game will make him more valuable in an actual contest.

[z0sa]

DoK:http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/sta/sta19.htm

[ElNono]

Wade, but I voted Tim because I'm a homer...

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

DoK:http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/sta/sta19.htm


A system and a theory are kinda two different things, but I just don't get why you didn't post this to begin with :lol

[Henry Louis Gates]

Wade because he's a darker African American and thats all that counts.

[z0sa]

A system and a theory are kinda two different things, but I just don't get why you didn't post this to begin with :lol

I honestly just didn't feel like looking. So, my bad about not backing my statement up good enough.

[Bob Lanier]

Wade because he's a darker African American and thats all that counts.
You're all descended from slaves, and that's all that matters.

Signed, an actual African

[Shastafarian]

But based on the way it's calculated, if over the next 3 years, JJ makes 2 AS games (likely since he's made the last 3), raises his PPG to 20 (likely since his best years are ahead of him), his HoF % goes up to 16%
If my uncle had a pussy he'd be my aunt...and a fuckin freak show. Plus didn't you ask in the other thread who was better now?

[DAF86]

FINALIST: Dwyane Wade - 56.86 % (58 votes)

http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv104/COCHIfz/wadeGQ1.jpg

TOP 4 PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE: Tim Duncan - 43.14 % (44 votes)

http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv104/COCHIfz/nba_g_duncan01_6001.jpg

[lefty]

Dwyane Duncan


Now that's a cool name

[BeeGee]

Is this thread a fuckin joke question? Timmy's damn near headed out to pasture and DWade is arguably the best, most complete player in the league.


Fuckin Spurs fans...

:blah "TimmyTimmyTimmyTimmyTimmyTimmyTimmyTimmyTimmyTimmy"

Time to wake up from that pipe dream. This is embarrassing.