sons who would you rather have on your team RIGHT NOW?

[BRHornet45]

sons out of the top 5 players in the NBA right now, who would you want on your team going into this season?

[23LeBronJames23]

the MVP

[UrAphag]

Son, you better just name this poll "Who is your favorite player?"


I vote kobe

[redzero]

Gina Carano got knocked the fuck out by that transvestite tonight.

[BRHornet45]

Gina Carano got knocked the fuck out by that transvestite tonight.

sons yes I saw ... I couldn't believe how hard that dude was hitting her :(

rumor has it that she lost a couple of teeth tonight

[redzero]

sons yes I saw ... I couldn't believe how hard that dude was hitting her :(

rumor has it that she lost a couple of teeth tonight

That may be. She's still hotter than that "thing" will ever be.

Damn Brazilian freaks.

[Findog]

sons out of the top 5 players in the NBA right now, who would you want on your team going into this season?

Chris Paul is Top Ten, not Top Five.

[redzero]

Chris Paul is Top Ten, not Top Five.

No, he is not. The dude's put up stats never before seen by a point guard, and he's just top ten? Who's better? Dwight?

[Amaso]

Chris Paul is Top Ten, not Top Five.

He's top 5 lol. The only way your argument is even plausible to a person with an average IQ is if you tried to make the case Chris Paul is the 6th best player in the league. Dropping him below 5 is hard to argue.

[BRHornet45]

He's top 5 lol. The only way your argument is even plausible to a person with an average IQ is if you tried to make the case Chris Paul is the 6th best player in the league. Dropping him below 5 is hard to argue.

son he is a Mavericks fan ... no point in even trying to make any sense of it.

[Rodriguez]

It's still not time to usher someone drafted in 05 into the top 5 range in this league, while ignoring some diplomatic veterans like Dirk, Tim, KG... If you only measure a play by his stats then I'll argue Kevin Durant is also a top 5, or at least top 10 player even though his team sucks. With a top 5 player on your team, you should never lose a game by a big margin as wide as 121-63.

[redzero]

It's still not time to usher someone drafted in 05 into the top 5 range in this league, while ignoring some diplomatic veterans like Dirk, Tim, KG... If you only measure a play by his stats then I'll argue Kevin Durant is also a top 5, or at least top 10 player even though his team sucks. With a top 5 player on your team, you should never lose a game by a big margin as wide as 121-63.


sons who would you rather have on your team RIGHT NOW?Paul is a better player than Timmy, Dirk and KG RIGHT NOW.

And let's not use one game to define a player's career, because almost everybody in the league is susceptible to that.

[BRHornet45]

It's still not time to usher someone drafted in 05 into the top 5 range in this league, while ignoring some diplomatic veterans like Dirk, Tim, KG... If you only measure a play by his stats then I'll argue Kevin Durant is also a top 5, or at least top 10 player even though his team sucks. With a top 5 player on your team, you should never lose a game by a big margin as wide as 121-63.

you son ... are a FUCKING moron.

sons please tell me that not ALL Mavs fans are like this? I have yet to meet one decent person from the city of Dallas.

[Rodriguez]

son he is a Mavericks fan ... no point in even trying to make any sense of it.
You are a Hornets fan, so there is no wonder you are so negligent to the 121-63 and still trying to convince us Chris Paul is a top 5 player, and the reputation of Hornets fans shouldn't have been so unmentionable but for your infamous stupidity and the offensive way you appellate others, son.

[BRHornet45]

You are a Hornets fan, so there is no wonder you are so negligent to the 121-63 and still trying to convince us Chris Paul is a top 5 player, and the reputation of Hornets fans shouldn't have been so unmentionable but for your infamous stupidity and the offensive way you appellate others, son.

son I don't have to convince you of shit ... his stats backup everything. you are just the typical clueless and bitter Mavs fan.

[redzero]

Is it a requirement that Mavs and Spurs fans must hate Chris Paul? Jesus Christ, what did he do to you people?

[Rodriguez]

Paul is a better player than Timmy, Dirk and KG RIGHT NOW.

And let's not use one game to define a player's career, because almost everybody in the league is susceptible to that.
Paul is young and will potentially become a better player than KG in prime, or Tim in prime, so it's reasonable Paul is a better option for the long run. But the veterans like Duncan, Dirk and KG are undoubtedly superior to Paul in terms of the effects made on court. Paul just has a bigger worth, which is mixed with his youth.

[redzero]

Paul is young and will potentially become a better player than KG in prime, or Tim in prime, so it's reasonable Paul is a better option for the long run. But the veterans like Duncan, Dirk and KG are undoubtedly superior to Paul in terms of the effects made on court. Paul just has a bigger worth, which is mixed with his youth.

Oh, please. Chris Paul can make shitty players look somewhat passable. I would only put LeBron over him in regards to team success. The impact Paul has on games is immeasurable.

[BRHornet45]

Paul is young and will potentially become a better player than KG in prime, or Tim in prime, so it's reasonable Paul is a better option for the long run. But the veterans like Duncan, Dirk and KG are undoubtedly superior to Paul in terms of the effects made on court. Paul just has a bigger worth, which is mixed with his youth.

son this post isn't just about Paul ... kinda funny how Maverick fans are always so damn bitter about Paul for some reason?

Paul is hands down more valuable than Dirk in EVERY way. you know the truth, you won't admit it ... but you KNOW the truth son ;)

[redzero]

son this post isn't just about Paul ... kinda funny how Maverick fans are always so damn bitter about Paul for some reason?

Paul is hands down more valuable than Dirk in EVERY way. you know the truth, you won't admit it ... but you KNOW the truth son ;)

Well, Dirk is a better shooter. Dirk is pretty much a better jump shooter than 99.9% of the NBA. And he gets more rebounds, but he is seven feet tall.

[Lars]

You should have made some sort of asterisk saying LeBron James is not available for picking. Because only a moron would pick anyone else.

Not true

For our team, CP would probably be the best fit because we have solid players at all the other poisitions.

[redzero]

Not true

For our team, CP would probably be the best fit because we have solid players at all the other poisitions.

With or without Knee Mac and Ow Ming?

[Greg Oden]

I know Paul made the Hornets relevant, for the first time in like forever, but you should try looking at things without your turquoise colored glasses on.

[Greg Oden]

No, he is not. The dude's put up stats never before seen by a point guard, and he's just top ten? Who's better? Dwight?

Paul > magic, Stockton, Thomas, etc . . .

[Riverwalkman]

Lakers:Paul
Spurs:Kobe
Cavaliers:another LBJ
Dallas: Dwight Howard
Magics: Dwyane Wade
...

[redzero]

Paul > magic, Stockton, Thomas, etc . . .

I did not claim that he was better than Magic, but Stockton and Thomas? Debatable for the latter.

[Chris]

Dwight Howard would be a great compliment to Timmy D!

[BRHornet45]

Well, Dirk is a better shooter. Dirk is pretty much a better jump shooter than 99.9% of the NBA.

LMAO WTF??? ... now of course Dirk is a GOOD shooter, but better than 99.9%??? are you serious son? Dirk is a career .472% shooter from the field. how is THAT better than 99% of the NBA? LOL .... Paul has shot way better from the field than Dirk has over the last two seasons anyways.

[redzero]

LMAO WTF??? ... now of course Dirk is a GOOD shooter, but better than 99.9%??? are you serious son? Dirk is a career .472% shooter from the field. how is THAT better than 99% of the NBA? LOL .... Paul has shot way better from the field than Dirk has over the last two seasons anyways.

He's a better jump shooter, not a better shooter in general. Dirk is an ungodly mid-range shooter.

[BRHornet45]

I know Paul made the Hornets relevant, for the first time in like forever, but you should try looking at things without your turquoise colored glasses on.

oh son I'm sorry ... if that's the case, then you should also tell about 80% of this message board to take off their black and gray glasses.

[Rodriguez]

Oh, please. Chris Paul can make shitty players look somewhat passable. I would only put LeBron over him in regards to team success. The impact Paul has on games is immeasurable.
121-63 is also part of your team's success? :lol

[redzero]

121-63 is also part of your team's success? :lol

Do you want me to bring up the Mavs losing to one man 4 times straight? Or losing in 6 to the 8th seed? Come on, I know you can get more material than that.

[BRHornet45]

121-63 is also part of your team's success? :lol

son yes it is ... also apart of our team's success is getting knocked out by a #8 seed Golden State team as well as choking it up in the NBA finals to the Heat .... oh wait, my bad ... that's YOUR team's plan. sorry

[Rodriguez]

son this post isn't just about Paul ... kinda funny how Maverick fans are always so damn bitter about Paul for some reason?

Paul is hands down more valuable than Dirk in EVERY way. you know the truth, you won't admit it ... but you KNOW the truth son ;)
Players' ages are always counted when they are evaluated, and Paul is much younger than Dirk. It's true that Paul is more valuable for a team because he can serve his team many more years than Dirk does, but it doesn't mean Paul is better than Dirk in terms of the game only. The management of a team is a different thing than the games, when you're running a team then Paul is absolutely more valuable but you know whom you should choose if you only need to win a game rather than lose it by 121-63.

[BRHornet45]

Players' ages are always counted when they are evaluated, and Paul is much younger than Dirk. It's true that Paul is more valuable for a team because he can serve his team many more years than Dirk does, but it doesn't mean Paul is better than Dirk in terms of the game only. The management of a team is a different thing than the games, when you're running a team then Paul is absolutely more valuable but you know whom you should choose if you only need to win a game rather than lose it by 121-63.

son read the above ....

my God you fail in so many ways.

[redzero]

Players' ages are always counted when they are evaluated, and Paul is much younger than Dirk. It's true that Paul is more valuable for a team because he can serve his team many more years than Dirk does, but it doesn't mean Paul is better than Dirk in terms of the game only. The management of a team is a different thing than the games, when you're running a team then Paul is absolutely more valuable but you know whom you should choose if you only need to win a game rather than lose it by 121-63.

Really? I could have sworn that the Mavs and the Hornets both won the same amount of games against the Nuggets.

[BRHornet45]

Wait... please elaborate on this impact he has that's immeasurable. Which, I'm assuming, you mean ONLY on the offensive end. Which is laughable to start with, considering LeBron plays both ends. How does he make David West better? How has Peja Stojakovic never really regained his form from the Sacramento days if he's such a point guard prodigy? The only person I see him making better is Chandler. And an alley oop thrown anywhere near the rim isn't a hard pass to throw... at all.

son you are a clueless fucker. Paul MADE David West an all star ... anyone who understands the game of basketball will tell you that.

[Chieflion]

I voted Dwight. With Duncan and Dwight patrolling the paint, everyone on the opposing teams would be taking only 3 pointers.

[Rodriguez]

son yes it is ... also apart of our team's success is getting knocked out by a #8 seed Golden State team as well as choking it up in the NBA finals to the Heat .... oh wait, my bad ... that's YOUR team's plan. sorry
06 finals and 07 first round were both muthafukin rigged. The video files of those games are still available for us to check, so you can easily find the proof to convince yourself that the Mavs were the best team in that season and deserving of the championship. However, I don't think a 121-63 came from the only affact of biased officiating work, even if that game was slightly manipulated.

[BRHornet45]

06 finals and 07 first round were both muthafukin rigged.


LMAO son I stopped reading after that .... you son are a fucking moron. cry me a river you piece of shit

[redzero]

Wait... please elaborate on this impact he has that's immeasurable. Which, I'm assuming, you mean ONLY on the offensive end. Which is laughable to start with, considering LeBron plays both ends. How does he make David West better? How has Peja Stojakovic never really regained his form from the Sacramento days if he's such a point guard prodigy? The only person I see him making better is Chandler. And an alley oop thrown anywhere near the rim isn't a hard pass to throw... at all.

David West was a nobody before Paul came along.

No, Peja hasn't gotten back to Sacramento form, and he's been injured a shitload of times.

You fail to take into account Sean Marks, Hilton Armstrong, Melvin Ely, Sean Marks, and the other bench scrubs.

Paul carried a depthless Hornets team to 49 wins in the Western Conference, playing without a true center half the regular season.

[Rodriguez]

LMAO son I stopped reading after that .... you son are a fucking moron. cry me a river you piece of shit
You're the idiot you just mentioned, only idiots like you are cowardice enough to tolerate your wife being fornicated by other men, especially those who look like tyson chandler. You are a big pussy, you sissy cuckold.

[spursfan1000]

I would have to go with Dwight Howard, not too many young good centers out there like Dwight Howard, in fact there isnt any.

[BRHornet45]

sons the truth is that MOST of you want Paul bad ... you hate on him all the time, but secretly you damn near ejaculate at just the thought of him being on YOUR team. you all know the truth ... he is hands down the BEST point guard in the WORLD and easily in the top 4 best players in the NBA today. the "hate" for Chris Paul on this message board is downright childish. "but but but mommy I want him on MY team! if he's not on my team then he sucks!!" - typical bitter Spurs/Mavs fan on this board.

I have to admit that what I love most is the pathetic, ignorant ass arguments that some of you douche bags attempt to use against Paul. you all fail miserably and many of your quotes about Paul are used as comedy on other basketball message boards. "but but his team lost in the playoffs 121-63!!! ummm yea that's all I got is this ONE game because there is nothing else I can think of to hate on Paul about!!! also I am leaving out the fact that he along with 4 others Hornets were playing injured that game! Paul sucks!!! Tony Longoria is the best!!!"

[Rodriguez]

son you are a clueless fucker. Paul MADE David West an all star ... anyone who understands the game of basketball will tell you that.
Then why doesn't Chris Paul make everyone around him an all-star? You're fucking stupid to think Paul is someone that can make his teammates better, on the contrary what has often happened in their hive is talented guys being overlooked and buried, like Brandon Bass. David West would have probably been a legendary player like Dirk had he been playing on some decent team like the Mavs. Peja used to be a star of all-star weekend but we all have seen how much he has changed since joining Hornets, and how much the Hornets will pay him for next 2 seasons. :lol

[BRHornet45]

West didn't get any playing time before he came along, so that's a terrible example. West was also named the top player in college basketball by a few publications, so it isn't like he came up out of thin air.

So why not? Paul's IMMEASURABLE impact should make it 300x easier, shouldn't it?

Bench players aren't supposed to be all-stars.

I don't question him being a good-to-great player, but you can't even compare Paul to James. 49 wins is nothing, especially considering Paul probably has more talent at his disposal.

son do you even bother to look up facts before you make this idiotic post?

[BRHornet45]

David West would have probably been a legendary player like Dirk had he been playing on some decent team like the Mavs.

wow

[iggypop123]

i think gina deserves a moment of silence

[Rodriguez]

sons the truth is that MOST of you want Paul bad ... you hate on him all the time, but secretly you damn near ejaculate at just the thought of him being on YOUR team. you all know the truth ... he is hands down the BEST point guard in the WORLD and easily in the top 4 best players in the NBA today. the "hate" for Chris Paul on this message board is downright childish. "but but but mommy I want him on MY team! if he's not on my team then he sucks!!" - typical bitter Spurs/Mavs fan on this board.

I have to admit that what I love most is the pathetic, ignorant ass arguments that some of you douche bags attempt to use against Paul. you all fail miserably and many of your quotes about Paul are used as comedy on other basketball message boards. "but but his team lost in the playoffs 121-63!!! ummm yea that's all I got is this ONE game because there is nothing else I can think of to hate on Paul about!!! also I am leaving out the fact that he along with 4 others Hornets were playing injured that game! Paul sucks!!! Tony Longoria is the best!!!"
No one wants the backup PG of the God-blessed team US bad, but sincerely, you are listing a player with only 4 years experience in NBA parallel to 4 proven legends, who are all guaranteed future Hall of Famers. Paul is a nice youngster and will probably be a great player like his predecessors, but naming him top 5 at such an early time pretty much shows your naked fact that you are a homer.

[BRHornet45]

i think gina deserves a moment of silence

son that dude whipped her ass tonight

[BRHornet45]

No one wants the backup PG of the God-blessed team US bad, but sincerely, you are listing a player with only 4 years experience in NBA parallel to 4 proven legends, who are all guaranteed future Hall of Famers. Paul is a nice youngster and will probably be a great player like his predecessors, but naming him top 5 at such an early time pretty much shows your naked fact that you are a homer.

son admit the truth now ... or admit your ignorance later.

[Rodriguez]

son admit the truth now ... or admit your ignorance later.
It wasn't me that ignored some great players while nominating an immature guy as a top 5 player in the league, together with Kobe muthafuking Bryant, Lebron James, Dwright and D-Whistle. At least I mean, Paul should wait one more year to join this club.

[BRHornet45]

It wasn't me that ignored some great players while nominating an immature guy as a top 5 player in the league, together with Kobe muthafuking Bryant, Lebron James, Dwright and D-Whistle. At least I mean, Paul should wait one more year to join this club.

sure thing buddy

[redzero]

Okay, let's first dispel this misconception that all Paul does is get steals, courtesy of basketball-reference.com.

Defensive Rating
19. Chris Paul (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/paulch01.html)-NOH103.1

That's second among point guards.

Defensive Win Shares
8. Chris Paul (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/paulch01.html)-NOH4.7

Second among point guard again.

On top of that, he gets by far the most steals, and the Blazers scored 40 points on the Hornets in one quarter when Paul was down.


West didn't get any playing time before he came along, so that's a terrible example. West was also named the top player in college basketball by a few publications, so it isn't like he came up out of thin air.

College =/= NBA

Although West is no scrub. I do find it interesting that you're actually defending him, because most of the people here call him overrated.


So why not? Paul's IMMEASURABLE impact should make it 300x easier, shouldn't it?

It DOES make it 300x easier, but in the end, only Peja Stojakovic can put the ball through the hoop when he's shooting, not anybody else. If Peja airballs a wide open 3-pointer, that's his fault not Paul's.



Bench players aren't supposed to be all-stars.

They also aren't supposed to be so incompotent that they blow a lead or dig the Hornets into a whole EVERY FUCKING TIME PAUL GOES OUT. You should probably watch a Hornets game some time.


I don't question him being a good-to-great player, but you can't even compare Paul to James.

I'm not trying to say that Paul is better, but comparisons to LeBron are extremely valid.


Win Shares
1.LeBron James (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html)-CLE19.6
2.Chris Paul (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/paulch01.html)-NOH17.5

That's pretty Goddamn impressive, if you ask me.


49 wins is nothing, especially considering Paul probably has more talent at his disposal.

Who? David West?

Peja Stojakovic - 13.9 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 0.378 3p%, in 61 games.
Tyson Chandler - 8.8 ppg, 8.7 rpg, 1.2 bpg, in 45 games.

Those two missed a combined total of 58 games, with players like Hilton Armstrong and Sean fucking Marks starting for the Hornets. Chris Paul made them look almost passable.

I would like to see this talent that you speak of. If you think horrible fucking bench players who can't create their own shot worth a damn, are sufficient teammates, then that's you.

[redzero]

Paul's opponent PER is worse than Kyle Korver's. He's bad at defense.

Brilliant come back. I am defeated.

[jazzypimp]

If we talkin right now it has to be lebron... Kobe is like over 30..so lebron has his prime years in front of him.. now as good as chris paul and dwight howard are... I think this is a 2 man race. I am guessing the 2 votes for cp3 are BR and redzero?? Am I right?

[JamStone]

1. Kobe
2. LeBron
3. Wade
4. Dwight
5. CP3

In that order. I think LeBron is a better individual player than Kobe now. He surpassed him, but until he leads his team all the way, I'll take Kobe over him.

[Rodriguez]

If we talkin right now it has to be lebron... Kobe is like over 30..so lebron has his prime years in front of him.. now as good as chris paul and dwight howard are... I think this is a 2 man race. I am guessing the 2 votes for cp3 are BR and redzero?? Am I right?
I think Paul would be the favorite candidate if BR asked the question like "who is the choice of a team on rebuilding mode?" Where as, Paul is definitely NOT the guy to choose for a win-now team like Mavs, Lakers... unless the whole bunch of superior players are all unavailable, and it's quite an easy job to list 7-8 guys superior over-all to Chris Paul in this league.

[Hornets1]

1. Lebron
2. Kobe
3. Wade
4. Paul
5. Howard

Seeing as we already have Paul, I'd take LBJ. I'm a firm believer in a good PG. Which is why Dwill and TP are among my favorite non-hornets to watch.

[Hornets1]

I think Paul would be the favorite candidate if BR asked the question like "who is the choice of a team on rebuilding mode?" Where as, Paul is definitely NOT the guy to choose for a win-now team like Mavs, Lakers... unless the whole bunch of superior players are all unavailable, and it's quite an easy job to list 7-8 guys superior over-all to Chris Paul in this league.

WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG! This is a Ghazi troll correct? He's the most bitter against Paul which is odd seeing as how much Paul owns Dallas

If Chris Paul was on the Lakers for next season, they would go 82-0

[Culburn369]

If Chris Paul was on the Lakers for next season, they would go 82-0

Please. After the Gasol trade, Paul being on the Lakers would cause Spurs Fandom to call for a Senate investigasheown.

[Hornets1]

Please. After the Gasol trade, Paul being on the Lakers would cause Spurs Fandom to call for a Senate investigasheown.

:lolRight.. It's a hypothetical for rodriguez who says paul can't be the part of a win-now team. 80% of NBA players, if they had their choice, would pick Paul to be their PG. The other 20% would be lying to protect their own PG.

PAUL STATS VS. THE MAVS LAST YEAR:

1/14/09(W 104-97) - 33pts/10rebs/11ast/7stls/2TO
3/5/09(W 104-88) - 27pts/4rebs/15asts/1stl/2TO
4/10/09(L 92-100) - 42pts/9rebs/7ast/2stls/2TO
4/12/09(W 102-92) - 31pts/9rebs/17asts/2stls/1TO

Averages in those 4 games: 33.25ppg/8rpg/12.5apg/3spg/1.75TOpg

Looks alot like ownage

[Findog]

son yes it is ... also apart of our team's success is getting knocked out by a #8 seed Golden State team as well as choking it up in the NBA finals to the Heat .... oh wait, my bad ... that's YOUR team's plan. sorry

The Hornets plan is to never make it as far as the Finals, lose in the first or second round of the playoffs if you're lucky enough to get there, along with salary dumping good players.

[mavs>spurs2]

Yeah I really don't understand how people don't see that Paul is a game changer when he's on the court. He improves his team as much as anyone in the NBA. I guess it's because assists, controlling tempo, and lightning fast drives for the LAYUP or dumping it off for the assist aren't as flashy as a lebron or Kobe dunk.

[jazzypimp]

Yeah I really don't understand how people don't see that Paul is a game changer when he's on the court. He improves his team as much as anyone in the NBA. I guess it's because assists, controlling tempo, and lightning fast drives for the LAYUP or dumping it off for the assist aren't as flashy as a lebron or Kobe dunk.

He is a lot better to watch when he plays the mavs... when he plays the jazz he's not that great!

[Hornets1]

He is a lot better to watch when he plays the mavs... when he plays the jazz he's not that great!

Sad, but very true. And it's not just b/c of Dwill, the Jazz's D just knows how to minimalize Paul's impact.

[Boston Pancake]

Fuck all them. KG every day of the week!

[jazzypimp]

Sad, but very true. And it's not just b/c of Dwill, the Jazz's D just knows how to minimalize Paul's impact.

there were a lot of games where he got in foul trouble and yea i noticed they always had 1 guy right behind deron in the lane so either paul had to shoot over d-will or beat 2 or 3 guys to the hole.. tough task for a guy that small with no help on the wings..if those guys would make thier shots that kind of D wouldnt work.

[redzero]

The Hornets plan is to never make it as far as the Finals, lose in the first or second round of the playoffs if you're lucky enough to get there, along with salary dumping good players.

Rasual Butler? The Hornets did just fine without him.

[23LeBronJames23]

Fuck all them. KG every day of the week!

KG is a punk

[jacobdrj]

Assuming this year, and no future year? It am teetering between Wade and Howard. Howard always gives you a chance by himself as a bigg, and Wade can carry a team. Kobe on a new team would probably just implode and LeBron is the choice for the long run, as Wade is probably frail and Howard may never develop an offensive game.

[DJB]

Dwight Howard shouldn't be in the top 5 IMO

[Findog]

Dwight Howard shouldn't be in the top 5 IMO

Neither should CP3.

[Findog]

He's top 5 lol. The only way your argument is even plausible to a person with an average IQ is if you tried to make the case Chris Paul is the 6th best player in the league. Dropping him below 5 is hard to argue.

It's quite easy to argue:

Bron
Kobe
Wade
Duncan

Take your pick of Howard or Dirk to round out the top 5. Maybe CP3 vaults into the top 5 this year, but based off the season that just concluded, it's very easy to make a case for top 10 status for him. Hell, that still makes him a franchise player. But top 5? He'll get there, but not yet.

[Findog]

No, he is not. The dude's put up stats never before seen by a point guard

CP3's career high in assists: 12 per game
Oscar Robertson's career high in assists: 12
Magic Johnson's career high in assists: 13
Isiah Thomas's career high in assists: 14
John Stockton's career high in assists: 15

CP3's career high in points: 23 per game
Oscar Robertson's career high in points: 31
Magic Johnson's career high in points: 24
Isiah Thomas's career high in points: 23

What were you saying again?

[Ghazi]

Statistically, CP3 is definitely top 5.

But you know, I like to look at the intangibles, especially in the playoffs recently.


2-0 lead, blows it v Spurs. how? Lets Jannero fucking Pargo take 13 4th quarter shots in a crucial game 7.

v Nuggets? Horrible stats, was clearly outclassed by Billups. QUIT in Game 4, losing by 58.

Factor in that he consistently gets outclassed by Williams, it's disputable that CP3 is the best PG in the game. With that, then you can dispute whether he's a top 5 player. I consider him top 10.

This simply isn't the stuff of a top 5 player in the NBA.

[Culburn369]

Paul hasn't made re-adjustments as the league has adjusted to him. He's holding on too tight, afraid to move, to change for fear he'll degrade, hoping "they'll just go away" and he can re-commence his initial career rampage. It ain't gonna work...it'll only get worse.

[Findog]

I think Paul is a great player, but slightly overrated. It's hardly an insult to call him top 10 worthy of franchise player designation.

[redzero]

CP3's career high in assists: 12 per game
Oscar Robertson's career high in assists: 12
Magic Johnson's career high in assists: 13
Isiah Thomas's career high in assists: 14
John Stockton's career high in assists: 15

CP3's career high in points: 23 per game
Oscar Robertson's career high in points: 31
Magic Johnson's career high in points: 24
Isiah Thomas's career high in points: 23

What were you saying again?

I'm talking about combined totals of win shares, assists, points, PER, steals, and so on--not just points and assists.

Who would you put in front of Paul RIGHT NOW? You people are taking reputation over actual talent.

[Hornets1]

I think Paul is a great player, but slightly overrated. It's hardly an insult to call him top 10 worthy of franchise player designation.

If Paul was on the Mavs, he would be the face of your franchise. To Put Dirk and Duncan over Paul AS OF RIGHT NOW is just wrong.

[bostonguy]

sons out of the top 5 players in the NBA right now, who would you want on your team going into this season?

Son, how is Paul Pierce not on this list. I mean he is the best player in the world. He said it himself. :blah

[BananaHammock]

As for my Wizards, here would be my preference:

1.LBJ
2.CP3
3.DWade
4.Kobe
5.D12

[tlongII]

Definitely LeBron. I'd rather have Brandon Roy than those other guys.

[Findog]

If Paul was on the Mavs, he would be the face of your franchise. To Put Dirk and Duncan over Paul AS OF RIGHT NOW is just wrong.

He would share top billing with Dirk.

[Rogue]

Son, how is Paul Pierce not on this list. I mean he is the best player in the world. He said it himself. :blah
Chris fucking Paul has a bigger shit absorber, which makes louder sounds than Paul does with his mouth. Since Chris Paul's words were heard by more people then they were also transmitted farther and wider, then more believable.

[Chieflion]

As for my Wizards, here would be my preference:

1.LBJ
2.CP3
3.DWade
4.Kobe
5.D12
You have Dwight as 5th for your Wizards when that is the position they are weakest in.

[FkLA]

Dwight Howard is not a m'fken TOP 5 player at this moment in time...his team went to the Finals but people are acting like he carried them or some shit. Hedo was arguably their best player in the playoffs and Rashard was solid as well, Howard is still way too raw on offense.

Give me Tim over Dwight right now, Dwight cannot take over a game on the offensive end at this point in time...he needs to develope some post moves. Its retarded how people completely ignore his lack of offense and automatically consider him a TOP 5 player just cause his team reached the Finals. I would place Carmelo up there instead of Howard.

As for the poll, I voted Lebron.