The word "gay" should become a universal term.

[BacktoBasics]

I know you gays live in a perpetual world of personal violation and theft of individuality. I don't typically agree with how you're treated. Except for that Perez dude getting whooped.

With that said I don't necessarily feel that you're entitled to fully own a word or its use. Many words have universal value. Coke can typically be used for just about any soft drink. Obviously the word "fuck" is pretty lateral across the board. Vagina, Jew, slave, dick, retarded, dunce, Metro, fat/phat, gangsta, redneck so on. Its not attacking your race. In your world is it not verbiage pertaining to preference? Whether born with or chosen.

Gay can mean stupid. It doesn't always have to be about you. Its not a sexual reference and it has no particular derogatory value directed at the homosexuals whatsoever. Its not your word to begin with, you can't get mad when someone steals the word you stole. Obviously you guys don't bitch when its used in its original form to mean "happy/joyous" but all of sudden its off limits when used to describe something in a negative tone.

Maybe if you guys/gals/dualgenitals let go of the term a bit it'll start to lose some of its luster in regard to discrimination.

Let it go already. Stop being gay about it. And stop those gay commercials already.

[J.T.]

+1

It's like when you play multiplayer or netplay videogames that have exploitable glitches that result in people not actually better than you beating you. I call that getting jewed. Some people call me an ignorant racist whenever I say that. I think they're full of shit. Kind of like the people in the other thread that said I have no intelligence because I like to get behind the wheel and go for a cruise after taking a few bongloads.

[RichardSimmons]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/clintsquint/gay_thread.jpg

[manufan10]

This thread is gay! :lol

[Trainwreck2100]

hell yeah, fuck hillary duff

[clambake]

so....in one instance, gay can mean stupid and fag and ultimately... stupid fag?

[BacktoBasics]

so....in one instance, gay can mean stupid and fag and ultimately... stupid fag?Lets not complicate this.

[z0sa]

Do eskimos get pissed if you call something cool?

[Trainwreck2100]

so....in one instance, gay can mean stupid and fag and ultimately... stupid fag?

When a member of the blue man group is sad, is he blue or blue?

[clambake]

When a member of the blue man group is sad, is he blue or blue?

this is about "gay".

did you mean "blew"?

[TDMVPDPOY]

http://tim3n.de/images/[email protected]

[BlueMen]

When a member of the blue man group is sad, is he blue or blue?

Just blue....like your balls.

[tonylongoriafan]

u'r face is gay

[mrsmaalox]

...... Stop being gay about it......

:lmao

It's like the word "pussy".

[JudynTX]

What are gay commercials?

[phxspurfan]

Do eskimos get pissed if you call something cool?

:rollin

[BacktoBasics]

What are gay commercials?The commercial (a black comedian) hears kids calling things gay. She gives them a hard time because apparently it makes gay people upset to hear their word used in place of "stupid or annoying".

[DarkReign]

Wanda Sykes Forum

[CuckingFunt]

The commercial (a black comedian) hears kids calling things gay. She gives them a hard time because apparently it makes gay people upset to hear their word used in place of "stupid or annoying".

It's not offensive because their word is being used as an insult. It's offensive because their identity is being used as an insult.

[manufan10]

That's gay.

[BacktoBasics]

It's not offensive because their word is being used as an insult. It's offensive because their identity is being used as an insult.Their identity is homosexual. They stole the word gay and changed the meaning to suite their slang. I could justify some hurt feelings from the word faggot because it was originated for them based in hate. You guys/gals can't have gay. I'm taking it back.

[BacktoBasics]

It's not offensive because their word is being used as an insult. It's offensive because their identity is being used as an insult....and its not even referring to their identity. Its used in completely different contexts with a completely different meaning.

[jack sommerset]

Gay does mean alot of things and some assholes want to highjack this word to make them feel better is bullshit. They pretty much accomplished that.What happen to the "happy" definition? Gays thought they were being cute calling themselves gay because it meant they were "happy". Everyone should stick their kawk in shit and that makes you "happy"? That was fucking stupid and that is why gay can means stupid now. Watch out, calling someone a socialist could mean you are really calling them a ###### now.

[Strike]

Gay does mean alot of things and some assholes want to highjack this word to make them feel better is bullshit. They pretty much accomplished that.What happen to the "happy" definition? Gays thought they were being cute calling themselves gay because it meant they were "happy". Everyone should stick their kawk in shit and that makes you "happy"? That was fucking stupid and that is why gay can means stupid now. Watch out, calling someone a socialist could mean you are really calling them a ###### now.

Does that mean the KKK, skinheads, etc. are going to start referring to blacks as socialists? More importantly, can they even spell socialist?

[JudynTX]

Wanda Sykes Forum

BTW, I don't find her funny.

[DarkReign]

BTW, I don't find her funny.

Me neither.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

So...B2B is straight??

[mrsmaalox]

So...B2B is straight??

:lmao :lmao

[ploto]

Gay meaning ‘homosexual’ became established in the 1960s as the term preferred by homosexual men to describe themselves. It is now the standard accepted term throughout the English-speaking world. As a result, the centuries-old other senses of gay meaning either ‘carefree’ or ‘bright and showy’ have more or less dropped out of natural use.

The Oxford Dictionary of English (2nd edition revised)

[Jacob1983]

I just think it's funny how gay people get so offended about saying "that's gay". They act like straight people stole their word. However, they are hypocrites when they say that because they stole the word "gay" from straight people. Gay use to mean happy.

And if Hillary Duff told me to stop saying "that's gay", I would tell her "well, I will make a deal with you. You stop being a shitty actress and finally star in a good movie that gets rave reviews and get nominated for an Oscar, Golden Globe, SAG, or something nice then I will stop saying that's gay. Until that happens, step off bitch".

[Mister Sinister]

Passive-aggressive gay-bashing, Chasing Amy, etc.

[holcs50]

ha, idc what others think really if im making fun of a friend for some reason and the word "gay" comes out of my mouth oh well. Ive called friends gay for being cocky, stupid, materialistic, etc. Its a word I use in good spirit just messing around. I also use "fag", in a similar way, it is what it is, im in no way homophobic or have anything against homosexuals--btw i also might use "homo" in the same context also. ;). As for the "jew" thing, yes I used to use that term online all the time when i played Vgames more----especially if someone took my kill, or was not being a team player, id laugh and use it. Words can be dangerous and hurtful-you have to make sure who your using them around, and what context your using them in. Im not going to be going to a football game and yelling at my friends "wow your a homo", people should be smart enough to use them in the proper places so others don't misinterpret what is being said....actually wtf am i rambling on about, im being gay.

[manufan10]

ha, idc what others think really if im making fun of a friend for some reason and the word "gay" comes out of my mouth oh well. Ive called friends gay for being cocky, stupid, materialistic, etc. Its a word I use in good spirit just messing around. I also use "fag", in a similar way, it is what it is, im in no way homophobic or have anything against homosexuals--btw i also might use "homo" in the same context also. ;). As for the "jew" thing, yes I used to use that term online all the time when i played Vgames more----especially if someone took my kill, or was not being a team player, id laugh and use it. Words can be dangerous and hurtful-you have to make sure who your using them around, and what context your using them in. Im not going to be going to a football game and yelling at my friends "wow your a homo", people should be smart enough to use them in the proper places so others don't misinterpret what is being said....actually wtf am i rambling on about, im being gay.

Wow, all of that was pretty gay.

[holcs50]

Wow, all of that was pretty gay.

Is there an echo, echo, echo in here, here, here??

[Trainwreck2100]

lmao teh gays hijacked teh word "gay" and then get mad when it's hijacked back

[Cant_Be_Faded]

We have been saying this since 2001. Words are what people use them as, not what liberal fucks want them to mean. And until another monosyllabic impact word replaces it, gay will continue to be one of the most versatile awesome words in everyday american language.

[CuckingFunt]

We have been saying this since 2001. Words are what people use them as, not what liberal fucks want them to mean. And until another monosyllabic impact word replaces it, gay will continue to be one of the most versatile awesome words in everyday american language.

You can't act as though the word "gay" just magically became used to describe things that are stupid or generally undesirable in the last few years, as if someone decided randomly that it was a fun word to say. Whether or not you specifically or intentionally use the word as a slight to the homosexual community or homosexuality in general, that connection and that insult is very much a part of why "that's so gay" has become such a popular phrase. Gay has become synonymous with stupid only because homosexuality has long been deemed worthy of ridicule.

Trying to suggest that this new use of "gay" as a universal/versatile insult is in no way connected to the condemnation of homosexuality is as silly as suggesting that the phrase "###### rich" has nothing to do with black people. ###### really means an ignorant person, after all. It's just the butthurt black community that won't let it go.

[Dark Gable]

You can't act as though the word "gay" just magically became used to describe things that are stupid or generally undesirable in the last few years, as if someone decided randomly that it was a fun word to say. Whether or not you specifically or intentionally use the word as a slight to the homosexual community or homosexuality in general, that connection and that insult is very much a part of why "that's so gay" has become such a popular phrase. Gay has become synonymous with stupid only because homosexuality has long been deemed worthy of ridicule.

Trying to suggest that this new use of "gay" as a universal/versatile insult is in no way connected to the condemnation of homosexuality is as silly as suggesting that the phrase "###### rich" has nothing to do with black people. ###### really means an ignorant person, after all. It's just the butthurt black community that won't let it go.

:clap :clap Great post.

[G.Q.]

The word "gay" cannot be stolen for it doesn't belong to any particular group.

[gay abc]

all you breeders are acting soooooo gay over this :lol

[CuckingFunt]

all you breeders are acting soooooo gay over this :lol

That, too.

[manufan10]

Is there an echo, echo, echo in here, here, here??

Is there an echo, echo, echo in here, here, here??

:lmao

[BacktoBasics]

You can't act as though the word "gay" just magically became used to describe things that are stupid or generally undesirable in the last few years, as if someone decided randomly that it was a fun word to say. Whether or not you specifically or intentionally use the word as a slight to the homosexual community or homosexuality in general, that connection and that insult is very much a part of why "that's so gay" has become such a popular phrase. Gay has become synonymous with stupid only because homosexuality has long been deemed worthy of ridicule.

Trying to suggest that this new use of "gay" as a universal/versatile insult is in no way connected to the condemnation of homosexuality is as silly as suggesting that the phrase "###### rich" has nothing to do with black people. ###### really means an ignorant person, after all. It's just the butthurt black community that won't let it go.Great points. However ###### never initially meant - Happy White Guy - and then robbed for the purpose of the black community to represent blacks as a whole. Then of course its race or ethnicity not preference.....Only to be slandered by the white man in regard to all things black. Not entirely a fair comparison. It was always a hateful term.

The more I think about it gay was likely adopted by the average joe to express things that are silly. Like your silly flamboyant gay people. Are they not silly? Therefore "silly" things became "gay". Which broadened to mean a lot of things over the years.

[CuckingFunt]

Great points. However ###### never initially meant - Happy White Guy - and then robbed for the purpose of the black community to represent blacks as a whole. Then of course its race or ethnicity not preference.....Only to be slandered by the white man in regard to all things black. Not entirely a fair comparison. It was always a hateful term.

The more I think about it gay was likely adopted by the average joe to express things that are silly. Like your silly flamboyant gay people. Are they not silly? Therefore "silly" things became "gay". Which broadened to mean a lot of things over the years.

That's just far too narrow a point of view. And more ignorant of our history than I think you are.

For one thing, language can't be stolen. It can be adopted, or appropriated, or altered, but there is no such thing as owning a word. Yes, the gay community may have made a conscious choice to adopt the term several decades ago, but in 2009 that adopted meaning is every bit as valid a definition of the word as its original definition. They can't be separated. And to suggest otherwise is denying the function of language and/or its fluidity.

The real issue is the cyclical acceptance of certain forms/contexts of discrimination. Within this country, there has always been at least one group of people who has been deemed okay to make fun of or ridicule -- Native Americans, Blacks, Irish, Italians, the Japanese, the disabled, and many more over time. Currently, it's the poor, the addicted, fat people and gays who are the socially acceptable targets of our "humor." As soon as that changes, saying that something is "gay" will become as unpopular or taboo as a minstrel show.

[BacktoBasics]

It can be adopted, or appropriated, or altered, but there is no such thing as owning a word.

You got my attention.

They can't be separated. And to suggest otherwise is denying the function of language and/or its fluidity.

....and there it went.



You shared my view for your benefit then separated yourself from it when you didn't want the same rule of thumb to apply.

[manufan10]

You shared my view for your benefit then separated yourself from it when you didn't want the same rule of thumb to apply.

+1

If homosexuals can adopt a word to express their way of life, why can't I adopt that same word and use it as a universal meaning? Why do homosexuals get to choose the definition of the word, but when I do I'm a homophobe or just making fun?

[manufan10]

Great points. However ###### never initially meant - Happy White Guy - and then robbed for the purpose of the black community to represent blacks as a whole. Then of course its race or ethnicity not preference.....Only to be slandered by the white man in regard to all things black. Not entirely a fair comparison. It was always a hateful term.

The more I think about it gay was likely adopted by the average joe to express things that are silly. Like your silly flamboyant gay people. Are they not silly? Therefore "silly" things became "gay". Which broadened to mean a lot of things over the years.

Wouldnt' the word "######" be the same as "faggot?" I could see where people's feelings would get hurt over the word faggot, especially when I've never seen gay people go around calling each other "my faggot." Faggot is more derragatory than the word gay, IMO.

[BacktoBasics]

Wouldnt' the word "######" be the same as "faggot?" I could see where people's feelings would get hurt over the word faggot, especially when I've never seen gay people go around calling each other "my faggot." Faggot is more derragatory than the word gay, IMO.Yeah and I rarely use the word faggot. I admit I have a strange set of principles. Fag is born and breed from hate. It, like ######, was always used and based in hate and discrimination. Gay on the other hand I feel can be used more universally because it wasn't born out of or used predominantly from hate.

[Trainwreck2100]

actually faggot was originally "a bundle of sticks" Lord know what happened to that word

[manufan10]

actually faggot was originally "a bundle of sticks" Lord know what happened to that word


Yeah. I told the kids that where I work, and so they started calling each other a bundle of sticks so they wouldn't get into trouble for saying "faggot." Whoops. :lol

[gatoloco]

fancy a fag, mate?

[manufan10]

fancy a fag, mate?

Doesn't that mean cigarette in Europe?

[CuckingFunt]

If homosexuals can adopt a word to express their way of life, why can't I adopt that same word and use it as a universal meaning? Why do homosexuals get to choose the definition of the word, but when I do I'm a homophobe or just making fun?

Because the other meaning(s) never goes away.

As I said here previously, you specifically may not use the "that's so gay" phrase as a slight or insult towards homosexuality, but that doesn't change the fact that the phrase was created as such an insult. You, specifically and individually, may not be a homophobe or a bigot for using the phrase (depending on your intent), but that doesn't remove the homophobic connotation from that phrase. The phrase was created for a reason. The word "gay" has been turned into a catchall descriptor for anything bad or undesirable for a reason. It wasn't radom coincidence.

[manufan10]

Why not just stick to homosexual? I never understood that either.

[mrsmaalox]

I wonder when PETA is going to challenge the use of the words "bitch" and "pussy".

[Strike]

5...4...3...2...

[z0sa]

Because the other meaning(s) never goes away.

Gay means happy still?

[JoeChalupa]

Because the other meaning(s) never goes away.

As I said here previously, you specifically may not use the "that's so gay" phrase as a slight or insult towards homosexuality, but that doesn't change the fact that the phrase was created as such an insult. You, specifically and individually, may not be a homophobe or a bigot for using the phrase (depending on your intent), but that doesn't remove the homophobic connotation from that phrase. The phrase was created for a reason. The word "gay" has been turned into a catchall descriptor for anything bad or undesirable for a reason. It wasn't radom coincidence.

I concur.

[Mister Sinister]

fancy a fag, mate?
http://idiocrasy.org/images/randal.jpg
I'm not your mate, fag!

[manufan10]

I wonder when PETA is going to challenge the use of the words "bitch" and "pussy".

:lmao