The "Mount Rushmore" of actors would include......

[da_suns_fan]

1) Marlon Brando
2) Jack Nicholson
3) Tom Hanks

and..........

The three above are non-negotiable (its my thread and I consider myself a movie buff).

Parameters: Must have large mainstream popularity and critical acclaim (should have at least one oscar...not Tom Cruises, John Travoltas or Brad Pitts etc). Must have at least one signature performance in which they introduced an extremely memorable character (Don Corleone, The Joker, Forrest Gump etc).

My nominees include:

Paul Newman (some would say its obviously him)
John Wayne (no Oscar but icons are icons)
Clint Eastwood
Spencer Tracy
Clark Gable
Denzel Washington (not quite a legend but he's getting there).

[Fpoonsie]

I know you wanna label the first 3 as "untouchable", but Tom Hanks above Pacino? De Niro? Hopkins?

Don't get me wrong, I love Bachelor Party just as much as the next guy, but seriously...wtf?

[mrsmaalox]

DeNiro, of course.

[Pistons < Spurs]

Steven Seagal
Cuba Gooding Jr.
Jean Claude Van Damme
Eddie Murphy

[Cry Havoc]

I know you wanna label the first 3 as "untouchable", but Tom Hanks above Pacino? De Niro? Hopkins?

Don't get me wrong, I love Bachelor Party just as much as the next guy, but seriously...wtf?

I would actually have Tom Hanks as #1 or #2 on my list. You can say Pacino and De Niro, but neither of them are nearly as flexible of an actor as Hanks. You can put him in ANY role. He's played everything. Villan, hero, anal retentive nerd, detective... basically any role that's ever been devised for movies, he's been it. I think that's far more valuable than an actor who's relatively typecast his entire career (not taking anything away from the other names mentioned).

[mardigan]

Brad Pitt
Adrian Brody
Harrison Ford
Arnold Schwarzenegger

[mrsmaalox]

And take off Tom Hanks and add Bogart.

[Mugshot]

1) Marlon Brando
2) Jack Nicholson
3) Tom Hanks

and..........

The three above are non-negotiable (its my thread and I consider myself a movie buff).

Parameters: Must have large mainstream popularity and critical acclaim (should have at least one oscar...not Tom Cruises, John Travoltas or Brad Pitts etc). Must have at least one signature performance in which they introduced an extremely memorable character (Don Corleone, The Joker, Forrest Gump etc).

My nominees include:

Paul Newman (some would say its obviously him)
John Wayne (no Oscar but icons are icons)
Clint Eastwood
Spencer Tracy
Clark Gable
Denzel Washington (not quite a legend but he's getting there).

John Wayne did win an Oscar.

[mrsmaalox]

I would actually have Tom Hanks as #1 or #2 on my list. You can say Pacino and De Niro, but neither of them are nearly as flexible of an actor as Hanks. You can put him in ANY role. He's played everything. Villan, hero, anal retentive nerd, detective... basically any role that's ever been devised for movies, he's been it. I think that's far more valuable than an actor who's relatively typecast his entire career (not taking anything away from the other names mentioned).

I think DeNiro is pretty flexible. As is Dustin Hoffman.

[lil_penny]

Pacino??

[Mugshot]

1.) Brando
2.) Nicholson
3.) Hoffman
4.) Newman

----

Deniro
Pacino

[Fpoonsie]

I would actually have Tom Hanks as #1 or #2 on my list. You can say Pacino and De Niro, but neither of them are nearly as flexible of an actor as Hanks. You can put him in ANY role. He's played everything. Villan, hero, anal retentive nerd, detective... basically any role that's ever been devised for movies, he's been it. I think that's far more valuable than an actor who's relatively typecast his entire career (not taking anything away from the other names mentioned).

All valid points. I would certainly have him in my top 10, but to immediately put him in an immovable top 3 position seemed a bit presumptuous (not taking away from his roles in Forrest Gump and Philadelphia)

And your everyday moviegoer may remember Pacino and De Niro MOST for their roles in films like The Godfather and Goodfellas, but they won their Oscars for the roles that WEREN'T gangsters (Scent of a Woman, Raging Bull). I think that says alot about THEIR versatility.

[PM5K]

When an actor is in a movie where the two main characters are the actor, and a volleyball, you know that's a pretty good volleyball, and a pretty good actor.

[mrsmaalox]

Now what about females? I may be having a memory problem but the only modern time actresses I can think of are Sally Field and Meryl Streep. Then of course Katherine Hepburn. And the fourth spot could go to Joan Crawford, but probably Bette Davis, but I would give it to Barbara Stanwyck because she's my all time favorite :)

[jaffies]

http://blog.allanellenberger.com/wp-content/uploads/chaplin-charlie.jpg

http://nerdiest-kids.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/john-wayne.jpg

http://www.freewebs.com/wordcitizen22/PartyTime/BusterKeaton.jpg

http://www.livingtv.co.uk/images/brando-431x400.jpg

Thank you very much.

[mrsmaalox]

I love Charlie Chaplin but he's not American. Since Mt Rushmore is American I thought we were limited to here.

[Fpoonsie]

I love Charlie Chaplin but he's not American. Since Mt Rushmore is American I thought we were limited to here.

Oops. Good point. And I put Hopkins in my first post. :bang

[eyeh8u]

larry the cable guy

[mrsmaalox]

Oops. Good point. And I put Hopkins in my first post. :bang

But we could have an English one with Hopkins, Chaplin, Cary Grant and Lawrence Olivier :tu

[Fpoonsie]

But we could have an English one with Hopkins, Chaplin, Cary Grant and Lawrence Olivier :tu

:toast

...and, of course, Clive Owen. I mean, have you SEEN Closer? He's number 3 on my man crush list right after Zach Braff and Ryan Reynolds.

[jaffies]

I love Charlie Chaplin but he's not American. Since Mt Rushmore is American I thought we were limited to here.

Theodore Roosevelt was Mexican. Look it up, I'll wait.

[mrsmaalox]

:toast

...and, of course, Clive Owen. I mean, have you SEEN Closer? He's number 3 on my man crush list right after Zach Braff and Ryan Reynolds.

Oh yes. He's sooo masculine; funny that in Closer he's with one of my girl crushes, Natalie Portman :eyebrows

[dirk4mvp]

DiCaprio says hi and demands a spot on that.

[mrsmaalox]

DiCaprio says hi and demands a spot on that.

DiCaprio is moving up the ranks fast I think. Just needs a few more years ;)

[Fpoonsie]

Oh yes. He's sooo masculine; funny that in Closer he's with one of my girl crushes, Natalie Portman :eyebrows

:lol Bow-chicka-bow.

[cherylsteele]

Robert Redford
Clint Eastwood
Humphrey Bogart

[PM5K]

Yeah all of these movies are listed as they were released, in other words no movies were released in between:

Body of Lies
Blood Diamond
The Aviator
The Departed
Catch Me If You Can
Gangs of New York

And even though not every one of those movies was great, his acting certainly was.

[Fpoonsie]

Yeah all of these movies are listed as they were released, in other words no movies were released in between:

Body of Lies
Blood Diamond
The Aviator
The Departed
Catch Me If You Can
Gangs of New York

And even though not every one of those movies was great, his acting certainly was.

Agreed. As the "mrs" said, he'll be RIGHT there after a couple more years.

His performance in Revolutionary Road was outstanding...even if the movie was a total downer. And Shutter Island looks spectacular.

[cherylsteele]

Now what about females? I may be having a memory problem but the only modern time actresses I can think of are Sally Field and Meryl Streep. Then of course Katherine Hepburn. And the fourth spot could go to Joan Crawford, but probably Bette Davis, but I would give it to Barbara Stanwyck because she's my all time favorite :)
Katherine Hepburn
Elizabeth Taylor

[dirk4mvp]

His performance in Revolutionary Road was outstanding...even if the movie was a total downer.

Agreed. If that movie had anyone else in his place, I would've stopped watching after 15 mins. Instead I went and bought it on dvd.

[jaffies]

Yeah all of these movies are listed as they were released, in other words no movies were released in between:

Body of Lies
Blood Diamond
The Aviator
The Departed
Catch Me If You Can
Gangs of New York

And even though not every one of those movies was great, his acting certainly was.

Have you seen 'This Boy's Life'? Classic DeNiro and a very young DiCaprio in an awesome performance.

[PM5K]

Agreed. As the "mrs" said, he'll be RIGHT there after a couple more years.

His performance in Revolutionary Road was outstanding...even if the movie was a total downer. And Shutter Island looks spectacular.

That was right after Body Of Lies, but I didn't list it because I haven't seen it, but I will.

[mrsmaalox]

Have you seen 'This Boy's Life'? Classic DeNiro and a very young DiCaprio in an awesome performance.

That is one of my very favorite movies, as is What's Eating Gilbert Grape?

[ginobili's bald spot]

GTFO Tom Hanks? He doesn't belong on the Mount Rushmore of anything.

[PM5K]

GTFO Tom Hanks? He doesn't belong on the Mount Rushmore of anything.

What about the Mount Rushmore of people whose first names start with T and whose last name is Hanks?

[holcs50]

DiCaprio is one of the better actors of his generation-and luckily he has become a regular in scorsese movies just as deniro was when he was younger. He's playing Teddy roosevelt in a film by scorsese coming in the next year i think, and he'll continue to get great parts so he could when its all said and done be that generations best. And i just saw whats eating gilberts grape, damn he did a good job. Pretty entertaining movie. Id say theres a group thats hard to distinguish the exact four-the group would be

john wayne, Clint, Newman, nicholson, hoffman, redford, brando, deniro.....id say pacino and hanks are close but just behind these guys. By the time hanks is done he could easily add a few more great films and definitely be one of the best. His versatility is pretty amazing, people forget his older films, he can do it all...gotta love Big-that's just a comedy classic.

[da_suns_fan]

GTFO Tom Hanks? He doesn't belong on the Mount Rushmore of anything.

A couple of people have objected to Hanks and youre all crazy.

The dude was robbed of his THIRD best actor oscar when he lost for "Cast Away" to Russel Crowe's one note performance in "Gladiator".

He was also fantastic in Saving Private Ryan but lost to some italian dude who was in a movie no one saw.

For almost two decades, every single one of his films has broken the 100 million dollar mark, he's won two oscars and become "The most trusted man in America" (Just ask the The SImpsons writers who joke that the government had to borrow some of Hanks' credibility since they were all out).

As for DeNiro. I cant justify DeNiro over Pacino or vice versa. No one really stands out thats been named so far.

[da_suns_fan]

As for DiCaprio, he's never won shit and I would add Johnny Depp (who can act circles around that douche any day of the week) ahead of him, but like I said a parameter is they need to have won at least one oscar.

Also, whats with Mavs fan's bizzare obsession with DiCaprio and "The Departed"?

[leemajors]

swayze

[JoeChalupa]

Gene Hackman

One of my favorite actors.

[Kermit]

A couple of people have objected to Hanks and youre all crazy.

The dude was robbed of his THIRD best actor oscar when he lost for "Cast Away" to Russel Crowe's one note performance in "Gladiator".

He was also fantastic in Saving Private Ryan but lost to some italian dude who was in a movie no one saw.

For almost two decades, every single one of his films has broken the 100 million dollar mark, he's won two oscars and become "The most trusted man in America" (Just ask the The SImpsons writers who joke that the government had to borrow some of Hanks' credibility since they were all out).

As for DeNiro. I cant justify DeNiro over Pacino or vice versa. No one really stands out thats been named so far.

So, if Crowe has to give his back for Gladiator then Hanks has to give his back for Forest Gump. That shit was embarassing.

On my personal list, I would have to add John Cazale. I know the guy passed away at a young age and that he only made five films, but those five films are all classics due in no small part to his acting. And Meryl Streep is better than all of these fools.

[JoeChalupa]

James Dean

[CuckingFunt]

As for DiCaprio, he's never won shit and I would add Johnny Depp (who can act circles around that douche any day of the week) ahead of him, but like I said a parameter is they need to have won at least one oscar.

Sorry, but you lose any credibility as a "movie buff" if you are using the fucking Oscars as a qualifier, and Johnny Depp is the perfect example of why. He's been consistently good, and amazingly versatile, for over 20 years. It's not his fault the Oscars are so fucked that he was never nominated until his breakout performance as a drunken Disney pirate.

Under the current format, I'd keep Brando from your top three and add DeNiro, Depp, and Buster Keaton (which was an inspired suggestion from someone else that I'm stealing). However, I think there is a flaw in looking at only leading men. The real depth in the talent pool is found when you start looking at character actors.

[Strike]

So, if Crowe has to give his back for Gladiator then Hanks has to give his back for Forest Gump. That shit was embarassing.

+1

Gladiator was far and away a better film than Cast Away, as was Russell Crowe's performance over Hanks'.

The two movies that Hanks won best actor for, as well as the 3rd movie da_suns_fan feels he should have won were overrated. All good movies, definitely. But I've seen all those movies twice (once in the theatre and once at home) and I've no desire to see any of them again. I own Gladiator and have seen it no less than 20 times. I own Schindler's List (WAY better than Forrest Gump) and have seen it no less than 20 times.

Forrest Gump = Good, but overrated.
Philadelphia = Good, but overrated.
Cast Away = Good, but overrated.

And, in my opinion, Liam Neeson should have won the oscar for Schindler's List over Hanks in Philadelphia. And The Shawshank Redemption should have won best picture over Forrest Gump.

Tom Hanks is an incredibly talented actor and deserves the recognition he gets. But to insinuate that he's one of the 4 greatest American actors of all time is not only ludicrous, but insulting.

[CuckingFunt]

On my personal list, I would have to add John Cazale.

Fucking seconded.

[CuckingFunt]

And The Shawshank Redemption should have won best picture over Forrest Gump.

As a fan of all three, Pulp Fiction should have beaten them both.

[Strike]

As a fan of all three, Pulp Fiction should have beaten them both.

FUCK! Can't believe I forgot Pulp.

You win.

[Kermit]

I recently watched Philadelphia the other day and was blown away at how ham-handed the entire movie is. It's the nineties version of Crash. And Crash winning Best Picture is why the Academy Awards are so scoffed.

[da_suns_fan]

Sorry, but you lose any credibility as a "movie buff" if you are using the fucking Oscars as a qualifier, and Johnny Depp is the perfect example of why. He's been consistently good, and amazingly versatile, for over 20 years. It's not his fault the Oscars are so fucked that he was never nominated until his breakout performance as a drunken Disney pirate.

Under the current format, I'd keep Brando from your top three and add DeNiro, Depp, and Buster Keaton (which was an inspired suggestion from someone else that I'm stealing). However, I think there is a flaw in looking at only leading men. The real depth in the talent pool is found when you start looking at character actors.

I understand your frustration with the Oscars, but at least go with nominations then.

Even if thats the case, the idea that you replace Jack Nicholson with any of those guys means YOU lose all credibility.


Actually, no. I'll give you that your list includes some GREAT actors. At least youre not saying "Leanardio DiCaprio says hi".

As if that guy (who is usually isnt even the best actor in the movie he's in let alone of all time) deserves a place on the mount rushmore of actors.

Fucking Mavs fan.

Some more non winners that I love include Ralph Fiennes, Liam Neeson and Lawrence Fishburne.

Decaprio :rolleyes

You just ruined my day, Mav Fan.

[da_suns_fan]

+1

Gladiator was far and away a better film than Cast Away, as was Russell Crowe's performance over Hanks'.

The two movies that Hanks won best actor for, as well as the 3rd movie da_suns_fan feels he should have won were overrated. All good movies, definitely. But I've seen all those movies twice (once in the theatre and once at home) and I've no desire to see any of them again. I own Gladiator and have seen it no less than 20 times. I own Schindler's List (WAY better than Forrest Gump) and have seen it no less than 20 times.

Forrest Gump = Good, but overrated.
Philadelphia = Good, but overrated.
Cast Away = Good, but overrated.

And, in my opinion, Liam Neeson should have won the oscar for Schindler's List over Hanks in Philadelphia. And The Shawshank Redemption should have won best picture over Forrest Gump.

Tom Hanks is an incredibly talented actor and deserves the recognition he gets. But to insinuate that he's one of the 4 greatest American actors of all time is not only ludicrous, but insulting.

Gladiator was a poor man's "Braveheart" and Joaquin Phoenix's performance annihilated Crowe's. Russel Crowe wasnt even the best actor in that movie.

Hanks isnt coming off the list. Hanks was so good in Cast Away you felt sad for a freaking volley ball. And Forrest Gump was hilarious and youre a hater if you think otherwise.

[CuckingFunt]

Gladiator was a poor man's "Braveheart" and Joaquin Phoenix's performance annihilated Crowe's. Russel Crowe wasnt even the best actor in that movie.

Joaquin Phoenix, who I often like, was laughably bad in that film.

[ididnotnothat]

Joaquin Phoenix, who I often like, was laughably bad in that film.

I thought he did a fantastic job. Go figure.

[Kermit]

And Forrest Gump was hilarious and youre a hater if you think otherwise.

It wasn't as funny as Shindler's List.

[ididnotnothat]

I recently watched Philadelphia the other day and was blown away at how ham-handed the entire movie is. It's the nineties version of Crash. And Crash winning Best Picture is why the Academy Awards are so scoffed.

It was and still is a great film.

[da_suns_fan]

Joaquin Phoenix, who I often like, was laughably bad in that film.

No way. I honestly believed he was a sexually frustrated, power-hungry creep who would kill his own father and force his sister to have sex with him.

Crowe was great in "A Beautiful Mind", but Gladiator is one of the most overrated films of all time.

btw - No one thinks Crowe belongs on the Mt. Rushmore so lets just drop him.

[da_suns_fan]

It wasn't as funny as Shindler's List.

:lol


In all honesty Fiennes is one of the best. The idea that he lost to Tommy Lee Jones in "The Fugitive" is crazy.

[Kermit]

It was and still is a great film.

I was looking at the nominees for the 66th Academy Awards and one thing struck me...

How fucking far has Winona Ryder fallen? Damn.

[dirk4mvp]

As for DiCaprio, he's never won shit and I would add Johnny Depp (who can act circles around that douche any day of the week) ahead of him, but like I said a parameter is they need to have won at least one oscar.

Also, whats with Mavs fan's bizzare obsession with DiCaprio and "The Departed"?

What's with you being a faggot?


lol coming up with a stupid rule about who qualifies

[da_suns_fan]

Heres comes mavs fan with some more bizzare DiCaprio love.

I loved DiCaprio in "Growing Pains". :lol

[dirk4mvp]

since when is duh suns fan the all knowing all seeing judge on what's good? First he tells st who the best bands of each decade was and now who gets on the rushmore of acting. Ok guy, good one.

[da_suns_fan]

What's with you being a faggot?


lol coming up with a stupid rule about who qualifies

You add Leanardo DiCaprio to a list of greatest four actor of all times and call me a faggot? :lol

Whats your FAVORITE DiCaprio performance? Other than "Gilbert Grape", I can almost guarantee he wasnt even the best actor in whatever movie you pick.

He's a good actor, but you and Monos are bizzarely obsessed with the guy and its DISGUSTING. Stay out of my thread, douche.

[dirk4mvp]

You add Leanardo DiCaprio to a list of greatest four actor of all times and call me a faggot? :lol



yes.

[da_suns_fan]

since when is duh suns fan the all knowing all seeing judge on what's good? First he tells st who the best bands of each decade was and now who gets on the rushmore of acting. Ok guy, good one.

Im not the judge, I just got the converstaion going because I didnt think there was a great band that came out this decade and a buddy was asking about the mount rushmore of singers (and thought about actors). AND its the off-season and things are slow.

Go screw yourself, KFC boy. Call up your buddy Monos and organize a slumber party of all your favorite DiCaprio films like "The Man in the Iron Mask", "Titanic" and "Romeo and Juliet".

[dirk4mvp]

He's a good actor, but you and Monos are bizzarely obsessed with the guy and its DISGUSTING.

A mention in this thread followed by a few posters agreeing, and now it's an obsession. duh suns fan is at it again!

[gatoloco]

larry the cable guy


Fucking seconded.

[dirk4mvp]

hey what should be my favorite color? what kind of shoes should I get next?

[dirk4mvp]

duh suns fan > b2b

[da_suns_fan]

A mention in this thread followed by a few posters agreeing, and now it's an obsession. duh suns fan is at it again!

LMAO, you and Monos havent shut up about DiCaprio OR "The Departed" for about three freaking years now, IIRC.

Douche.

[dirk4mvp]

LMAO, you and Monos havent shut up about him and "The Departed" for about three years now, IIRC.

Douche.

You want to find some of my departed posts or are you grabbing straws?

[da_suns_fan]

hey what should be my favorite color? what kind of shoes should I get next?

What color are DiCaprio's eyes? What shoes does he wear in "The Departed"?

[Strike]

Gladiator was a poor man's "Braveheart" and Joaquin Phoenix's performance annihilated Crowe's. Russel Crowe wasnt even the best actor in that movie.

Hanks isnt coming off the list. Hanks was so good in Cast Away you felt sad for a freaking volley ball. And Forrest Gump was hilarious and youre a hater if you think otherwise.

Actually, I didn't feel sad for a freaking volleyball. Honestly, I felt bad for my wallet being 9 dollars lighter.

Forrest Gump was about a retard who somehow manages to be in the right place at the right time a laughable amount of times. It was not hilarious, it was overrated.

But, you're right. Phoenix was better than Crowe in Gladiator. And Crowe was still better than Hanks.

Your movie takes are just as retarded and douchetastic as your basketball takes.

[da_suns_fan]

Actually, I didn't feel sad for a freaking volleyball. Honestly, I felt bad for my wallet being 9 dollars lighter.

Forrest Gump was about a retard who somehow manages to be in the right place at the right time a laughable amount of times. It was not hilarious, it was overrated.

But, you're right. Phoenix was better than Crowe in Gladiator. And Crowe was still better than Hanks.

Your movie takes are just as retarded and douchetastic as your basketball takes.

Awwww...I was laughing at your post till I got to the last sentence.

I think Hanks is genius. Even some of his comic performances in "The Money Pit" and "A League of their own" are great.

[Strike]

Awwww...I was laughing at your post till I got to the last sentence.

I think Hanks is genius. Even some of his comic performances in "The Money Pit" and "A League of their own" are great.

I'm not disagreeing with you on Hanks' greatness. The dude is an awesome actor. Funny you mentioned The Money Pit and A League Of Their Own because I love Hanks' work in both of those. I'm only disagreeing with the fact that you put Tom Hanks on a pedestal over some of the greatest actors ever.

Although I do admire your dedication. Your apparent man love of Hanks seems to be bigger and more obsessive than dirk4mvp's supposed love of DiCaprio that you keep blathering about.

[da_suns_fan]

I'm not disagreeing with you on Hanks' greatness. The dude is an awesome actor. Funny you mentioned The Money Pit and A League Of Their Own because I love Hanks' work in both of those. I'm only disagreeing with the fact that you put Tom Hanks on a pedestal over some of the greatest actors ever.

Although I do admire your dedication. Your apparent man love of Hanks seems to be bigger and more obsessive than dirk4mvp's supposed love of DiCaprio that you keep blathering about.

You dont know the history. Ive been arguing with him, Monos and other Mavs fans about this for YEARS. He just admitted he bought "Revolutionary Road" on DVD and I think he's 19. Thats all the evidence you should need.

As for Hanks, as I pointed out, he's got the trophies and the box office record (no film under 100 million in almost 20 years) to back up his resume. I doubt ANYONE else on the planet can do that. Even still, people like Hoffman, Hackman, DeNiro and Pacino...I would listen to arguments that they deserve a spot more than Hanks because they might be better "Method actors". I just think Hanks make some really great movies.

Glad you also like the money pit. Thats one of my guilty pleasures. My favorite is his reaction when the tub falls through the floor.

[mrsmaalox]

I'm not disagreeing with you on Hanks' greatness. The dude is an awesome actor. Funny you mentioned The Money Pit and A League Of Their Own because I love Hanks' work in both of those. I'm only disagreeing with the fact that you put Tom Hanks on a pedestal over some of the greatest actors ever.

Although I do admire your dedication. Your apparent man love of Hanks seems to be bigger and more obsessive than dirk4mvp's supposed love of DiCaprio that you keep blathering about.

Haha I had just written the exact thing; but I got distracted and by the time I went back to post, you beat me to it :lol

[da_suns_fan]

Haha I had just written the exact thing; but I got distracted and by the time I went back to post, you beat me to it :lol

I could see that since he's the only one Im talking about.

But he's the only one of "My three" thats being questioned. If everyone accepted Hanks and Brando I would be defending Nicholson. Same with Brando.

And again, you guys dont know the history.

[da_suns_fan]

Then again, maybe I am obssessed. I even liked "Joe versus the Volcano". Especially so since it has Abe Vigoda.

A "Godfather" alumni AND Tom Hanks? How can anyone disagree? :lol

[Strike]

I could see that since he's the only one Im talking about.

But he's the only one of "My three" thats being questioned. If everyone accepted Hanks and Brando I would be defending Nicholson. Same with Brando.

And again, you guys dont know the history.

I would never question Jack or Brando regarding a "best of" actors discussion.

By the way, three 6 mafia won an oscar before Martin Scorcese. Your trophies argument is baseless. And Shia LeDouche has four $100 million dollar movies in 2 years. Doesn't mean he's a great actor.

[mrsmaalox]

Now I'm not denying that Tom Hanks is a great actor, but he is one of those actors, like Nicole Kidman, who are very "vanilla" to me. I think The Green Mile, The Road to Perdition, Toy Story, Saving Private Ryan, and even Charlie Wilson's War are definite Tom Hanks vehicles. But there are many other actors who could have been plugged into any of his other roles and have the same film in the end. I suppose that speaks more for the formula of the films than the actual performances.

[Strike]

Then again, maybe I am obssessed. I even liked "Joe versus the Volcano". Especially so since it has Abe Vigoda.

A "Godfather" alumni AND Tom Hanks? How can anyone disagree? :lol

I underestimated your obsession. It knows no bounds.

[Strike]

Now I'm not denying that Tom Hanks is a great actor, but he is one of those actors, like Nicole Kidman, who are very "vanilla" to me. I think The Green Mile, The Road to Perdition, Toy Story, Saving Private Ryan, and even Charlie Wilson's War are definite Tom Hanks vehicles. But there are many other actors who could have been plugged into any of his other roles and have the same film in the end. I suppose that speaks more for the formula of the films than the actual performances.

Exactly was I was thinking. I was trying to think of a way to describe Hanks but couldn't quite put my finger on it. Thank you.

[da_suns_fan]

I would never question Jack or Brando regarding a "best of" actors discussion.

By the way, three 6 mafia won an oscar before Martin Scorcese. Your trophies argument is baseless. And Shia LeDouche has four $100 million dollar movies in 2 years. Doesn't mean he's a great actor.

2 != 20.

btw - I though Shia was actually good in the first Transformers. Especially when he first realizing that his car was "alive". I havent seen the second. And I dont blame him for the fourth Indiana Jones movie. The script was just bad.

I agree there's probably more "Snubs" than "Obvious winners" when it comes to Oscars. So I'll say a parameter should be the dude should at least have been nominated a few times.

[Cry Havoc]

Now I'm not denying that Tom Hanks is a great actor, but he is one of those actors, like Nicole Kidman, who are very "vanilla" to me. I think The Green Mile, The Road to Perdition, Toy Story, Saving Private Ryan, and even Charlie Wilson's War are definite Tom Hanks vehicles. But there are many other actors who could have been plugged into any of his other roles and have the same film in the end. I suppose that speaks more for the formula of the films than the actual performances.

I see what you're saying, but how can you say that for sure? If you admit they're great performances, can you surely state that someone else could have done as well in his role?

The reason I love Tom Hanks so much is that if I go see a movie that he's in, it's almost guaranteed to be a great movie.

[da_suns_fan]

Now I'm not denying that Tom Hanks is a great actor, but he is one of those actors, like Nicole Kidman, who are very "vanilla" to me. I think The Green Mile, The Road to Perdition, Toy Story, Saving Private Ryan, and even Charlie Wilson's War are definite Tom Hanks vehicles. But there are many other actors who could have been plugged into any of his other roles and have the same film in the end. I suppose that speaks more for the formula of the films than the actual performances.

I see youre point, but not EVERY performance has to be distinctive.

I dont think you could just plug someone else in his Forrest Gump, Philadelphia, Big and Cast Away films and got the same result.

[Cry Havoc]

I dont think you could just plug someone else in his Forrest Gump, Philadelphia, Big and Cast Away films and got the same result.

The Terminal was impressive as well.

[mrsmaalox]

The Terminal was impressive as well.

I can't believe I left that one off! I loved that film. An added plus was that Zeta-Jones was in it---she's another one of my "girl crushes" :p:

And that wasn't me you quoted above ;)

[Opinionater]

IMHO, this is just another thread about "opinions" and there is no right or wrong so all you movie critics need to relax.

Oh, and IMHO, Tom Hanks is one damn good actor.

[Strike]

IMHO, this is just another thread about "opinions" and there is no right or wrong so all you movie critics need to relax.

Hey, fuck you!

http://www.knitemare.org/cats/serious_cat.jpg

[Xylus]

I think Tom Hanks is a fine actor. But if I had to choose between watching a DiCaprio performance and a Hanks performance, I'd go with DiCaprio. The man acts with a lot of passion, and time after time picks great roles in great movies. His performance in the Departed is one of my favorite of all time.

[da_suns_fan]

I can't believe I left that one off! I loved that film. An added plus was that Zeta-Jones was in it---she's another one of my "girl crushes" :p:

And that wasn't me you quoted above ;)

"I afraid from ghost!"

"I afraid from Drak-Kula"

[da_suns_fan]

I think Tom Hanks is a fine actor. But if I had to choose between watching a DiCaprio performance and a Hanks performance, I'd go with DiCaprio. The man acts with a lot of passion, and time after time picks great roles in great movies. His performance in the Departed is one of my favorite of all time.

Say it aint so, Xylus. Say it aint so.

[Xylus]

Say it aint so, Xylus. Say it aint so.

I think you still associate DiCaprio with Titanic, which was an awful movie.

I've not a bad thing to say about Tom Hanks. I generally love his movies; he's a charismatic guy and a great actor.

[SonOfAGun]

Eastwood & Sly Stallone.

[Cry Havoc]

I think Tom Hanks is a fine actor. But if I had to choose between watching a DiCaprio performance and a Hanks performance, I'd go with DiCaprio. The man acts with a lot of passion, and time after time picks great roles in great movies. His performance in the Departed is one of my favorite of all time.

Dude, pardon me for being so nice, but...


WHERE THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN!?


Good to see you posting again.

[dirk4mvp]

I think Tom Hanks is a fine actor. But if I had to choose between watching a DiCaprio performance and a Hanks performance, I'd go with DiCaprio. The man acts with a lot of passion, and time after time picks great roles in great movies. His performance in the Departed is one of my favorite of all time.

That settles that.

[da_suns_fan]

That settles that.

It settles you are a giant douche. I thought you were obsessed BEFORE you announced that you wouldnt have given Revolutionary Road more than 15 minutes if not for Leo and that you bought it on DVD.

[dirk4mvp]

Still grabbing straws? Never found those other posts from me drooling over dicaprio? or does it settle that you're retarded and are obsessed over a slightly above average actor in Hanks?

[da_suns_fan]

Still grabbing straws? Never found those other posts from me drooling over dicaprio? or does it settle that you're retarded and are obsessed over a slightly above average actor in Hanks?

It was years ago so I didnt even bother. I attribute your obsession to just being young. Youre not mature enough to establish your own opinions so you just "borrow" Monos'. I dont know why he's obsessed but you jumped on that bandwagon with other mavs fans a while ago.

Thats my psycho-analysis, anyway.

[da_suns_fan]

btw - Both Monos and Stretch were obsessed with the Departed as far back as 2007. Here's the evidence:

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-79262.html

I guess its just a Mavs fan thing. They all cling together. Maybe its just one person? Between Leo and Patton Oswalt, their obsessions are just plain bizzare.

[dirk4mvp]

You're wrong, but that's not surprising.

[JoeChalupa]

I think you still associate DiCaprio with Titanic, which was an awful movie.

I've not a bad thing to say about Tom Hanks. I generally love his movies; he's a charismatic guy and a great actor.

I liked Titanic and my oldest daughter still watches it every few months or so.
DiCaprio was fantastic in The Departed.

[Fpoonsie]

btw - Both Monos and Stretch were obsessed with the Departed as far back as 2007. Here's the evidence:

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-79262.html

I guess its just a Mavs fan thing. They all cling together. Maybe its just one person? Between Leo and Patton Oswalt, their obsessions are just plain bizzare.

The Departed is one of my all-time favorite movies. Leo was a major reason for that. I'd pay to listen to that guy read the newspaper.

And I'm one of the biggest Mav-haters in Denton. Any OTHER theories?

[da_suns_fan]

I liked Titanic and my oldest daughter still watches it every few months or so.
DiCaprio was fantastic in The Departed.

I liked both the Departed and Titanic. When I think of the top actors of all time, I wouldnt even consider Leo though.

[JoeChalupa]

I liked both the Departed and Titanic. When I think of the top actors of all time, I wouldnt even consider Leo though.

Not yet but he will be. Just like Johnny Depp will.

[da_suns_fan]

Not yet but he will be. Just like Johnny Depp will.

I consider Johnny Depp top notch right now and have for a very long time. Just watch "Benny And Joon".

I didnt add him to my list cuz I tried to parameterize it somehow.

[da_suns_fan_]

Is anyone shocked I would value Oscar nominations so highly? I'm the guy who thinks TV ratings are more important then NBA titles!

Go Evas Go!

[Dro210]

I'm goin with Will Smith, Tom Hanks, John Wayne, and Morgan Freeman

Freeman in there reppin for supporting actors

[JoeChalupa]

Is anyone shocked I would value Oscar nominations so highly? I'm the guy who thinks TV ratings are more important then NBA titles!

Go Evas Go!

How about Golden Globes?

Brando
Nicholson
Hanks
Jimmy Stewart - I just always liked his acting and consider him worthy.

[Michael J Fox]

no doc hollywood fans huh?

[da_suns_fan]

Is anyone shocked I would value Oscar nominations so highly? I'm the guy who thinks TV ratings are more important then NBA titles!

Go Evas Go!

Wasnt Monos suppose to be gone for a few months for losing some bet?

[monosylab1k]

I masturbate to snuff films.

[holcs50]

You dont know the history. Ive been arguing with him, Monos and other Mavs fans about this for YEARS. He just admitted he bought "Revolutionary Road" on DVD and I think he's 19. Thats all the evidence you should need.

As for Hanks, as I pointed out, he's got the trophies and the box office record (no film under 100 million in almost 20 years) to back up his resume. I doubt ANYONE else on the planet can do that. Even still, people like Hoffman, Hackman, DeNiro and Pacino...I would listen to arguments that they deserve a spot more than Hanks because they might be better "Method actors". I just think Hanks make some really great movies.

Glad you also like the money pit. Thats one of my guilty pleasures. My favorite is his reaction when the tub falls through the floor.

Oh MY GOD. When i was a kid we had the money pit on VHS, and that part had my mom and I laughing so hard there was tears numerous times. I love that part, one of the greatest laughs in cinema history. doesn't seem like hanks is universally agreeable in the top 4/5, but I'd say everyone could agree he's definitely top 10 ever. I'd say he's very close to top 5, and with a few more great movies he will be there.

[da_suns_fan]

Im a giant douche

So how long did it take to find this forum? No doubt your "Leo senses" were buzzing of the scale?

Or did Dirk4MVP give you a call?

[da_suns_fan]

Oh MY GOD. When i was a kid we had the money pit on VHS, and that part had my mom and I laughing so hard there was tears numerous times. I love that part, one of the greatest laughs in cinema history. doesn't seem like hanks is universally agreeable in the top 4/5, but I'd say everyone could agree he's definitely top 10 ever. I'd say he's very close to top 5, and with a few more great movies he will be there.

I also loved when Shelley Long admitted to sleeping with the French dude (or so she thought) to Tom Hanks in the middle of the night and he was so tired he basically said "Its okay baby, go back to sleep" and she turns back off the light.

Then five seconds later the light gets turned back on...

"YOU WHORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I didn't appreciate The Money Pit until I bought and remodeled a couple of houses. The first time I watched it I didn't think much of it. I saw it recently howevah and laughed my ass off. It's gone...I'm now without one.

[Lebowski Brickowski]

Jimmy Stewart might be the greatest actor of all time. Even with his universal acclaim, he's underrated.

[Lebowski Brickowski]

For the non -leading man types may I add the versatile Gary Oldman, Christopher Walken and Dennis Hopper?

[slayermin]

Jimmy Stewart might be the greatest actor of all time. Even with his universal acclaim, he's underrated.

He definitely deserves to be in the mix.

Of american actors, I would say Jimmy Stewart, Humphrey Bogart, Marlon Brando, Rober DeNiro.

Of any nationality, Laurence Olivier, Jimmy Stewart, Marlon Brando, Daniel Day Lewis

If I could pick the four, they would be Olivier, Toshiro Mifune, William Holden, DeNiro.

[exstatic]

In no particular order:
De Niro
Brando
Hanks
DiCaprio (yes, I think he's there already)

Not a huge fan of Nicholson as an actor. I like his movies, but he seems to suffer from Tom Cruise syndrome: he always seems to be himself in movies. Nothing wrong with that, just not enough right with it to get you onto acting's Mt. Rushmore.

[exstatic]

For the non -leading man types may I add the versatile Gary Oldman, Christopher Walken and Dennis Hopper?

You could add Chris Cooper to that supporting actor mix.

[jack sommerset]

Audrey Hepburn, Nicholson,Brando,Newman...I like Pitt,Hanks,De Niro,Hoffman,DiCaprio,Stewart

[Stringer_Bell]

DeNiro
Bogart
Hanks
Norris

[Heath Ledger]

Sean Penn

and having the actor require an Oscar to be on you rushmore is ridiculous
Box office success should be a factor as well

[James Ford]

I'll take Rourke,Penn, and Bale.

[Darrin]

Marlon Brando (A Streetcar Named Desire, On the Waterfront, Godfather)
Henry Fonda (The Grapes of Wrath, 12 Angry Men)
Paul Newman (Cool Hand Luke, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid)
Tom Hanks (Philadelphia, Forrest Gump)

Under Consideration:

1. Jack Nicholson (One Flew Over the Coocoos Nest, The Shining, Batman)
2. Mel Gibson (Hamlet, Braveheart)
3. Al Pacino (Godfather Trilogy)
4. Robert Dinero (Taxi Driver)
5. Orson Wells (Citizen Kane)

[Heath Ledger]

I can't believe theres not more love for Sean Penn. This guy is awesome.

[SA210]

Tom Cruise was robbed of the Oscar for Jerry Maguire.

[sonic21]

tom hanks? wtf

Bogart
Hepburn
Brando
DeNiro
Depp
Dicaprio

[LnGrrrR]

I didn't even like Gladiator... but I think Russell Crowe is a great actor. In fact, I think Gladiator is the only movie he was in that I didn't enjoy. A Beautiful Mind, LA Confidential... tons of great stuff there.

[mrsmaalox]

For the non -leading man types may I add the versatile Gary Oldman, Christopher Walken and Dennis Hopper?


You could add Chris Cooper to that supporting actor mix.

Supporting/character actors are my favorites. Chris Cooper is definitely the greatest of our time. Gary Oldman and Christopher Walken definitely belong there. But as much as I love Dennis Hopper, I would remove him from that list and replace him with Vincent D'Onofrio

http://www.movieactors.com/freezes1/FullMetalJacket5.jpeg

[Muser]

I'm a homer for Stallone.

[da_suns_fan]

Tom Cruise was robbed of the Oscar for Jerry Maguire.

"Help me, HELP you!"

It was nice that he was nominated but theres no way he was better than Geoffery Rush in "Shine" or Ralph Fiennes in "The English Patient".

[Strike]

"Help me, HELP you!"

It was nice that he was nominated but theres no way he was better than Geoffery Rush in "Shine" or Ralph Fiennes in "The English Patient".

I agree. Wait a second....

:vomit:

huh. no idea where that came from.

[Darrin]

tom hanks? wtf

Go watch the opera scene in Philadelphia and tell me this guy isn't a great actor! Go watch him testify, how he responds to Charles and the Partners in that movie! He turned in a timeless performance. Forrest Gump is another great character. Remember Saving Private Ryan? Road to Perdition? Castaway? The Green Mile? Apollo 13?


I didn't even like Gladiator... but I think Russell Crowe is a great actor. In fact, I think Gladiator is the only movie he was in that I didn't enjoy. A Beautiful Mind, LA Confidential... tons of great stuff there.

Russell Crowe...I forgot about him!

[antimvp]

Al Pacino
Marlon Brando
Robert Di nero
Christopher Walken

Dennis Hopper, Johnny Depp & Leo Dicaprio not too far behind

I used to think Christian Slater but he has fizzled out.

[Kermit]

Tom Cruise was robbed of the Oscar for Jerry Maguire.

This made me die a little on the inside.

[SA210]

This made me die a little on the inside.

He was great in that film.

[dirk4mvp]

Just watched The Basketball Diaries for the first time in a while. Which further proves just how good DiCaprio is.

[Kermit]

He was great in that film.

Great at looking constipated. The gay beach volleyball scene in Top Gun was better than anything he did in that Cameron Crowe flick.

[da_suns_fan]

http://movies.toptenreviews.com/actors/list_all_time_male_actor.htm

Interesting list. Hanks barely edges out DeNiro for greatest of all time. Im not sure how they come up with the score but I think its calculated from the critical reviews of their films etc. Nicholson is only number 10 though. And Brando doesnt show up until 30!

[da_suns_fan]

Just watched The Basketball Diaries for the first time in a while. Which further proves just how good DiCaprio is.

Or what a giant douche you are. How many DiCaprio movies do you watch in a given week?

Mavs fan must LOVE basketball diaries since it has DiCaprio AND Marky Mark in it. Im being dead fucking serious too. They LOVE these guys. Its like a bizzare obsession to anyone you might have seen on the cover of "Bopper" during the early 90s.

[dirk4mvp]

The more posts like that from you makes it even funnier considering how hard you're jerking off to Hanks.

[Fpoonsie]

Just watched The Basketball Diaries for the first time in a while. Which further proves just how good DiCaprio is.

GREAT fucking movie. I remember being terribly uncomfortable when the pretty boy from Growing Pains was gettin a bj in a bathroom from some sweaty, middle-aged guy just to get money for his fix, but being blown away nonetheless (NPI).

Just an awesome, AWESOME performance. (again, NPI)

[da_suns_fan]

The more posts like that from you makes it even funnier considering how hard you're jerking off to Hanks.

:lol

DiCaprio usually isnt even the best actor in the movie he's in, let alone of all time. Go through his films. Its usually the case he was out-performed by someone else.

But how hard could that be? I mean, how many times can we see his overly-serious "smoldering stare" that he stole from Tom Cruise?

Leo's best performances were in "Catch Me if You Can" and "Gilbert Grape". Everything else has been over-acting that was easily forgetable, IMO.

Dont even get me started on Marky Mark. At least he gave us "Entourage".

[sonic21]

Tom Hanks had a string a decade ago...Hasn't done anything worthy since...
he has become "Tom Hanks" in everything he is in. Is he acting? I find him to be a nice guy. But I don't really consider him much of an actor. He is a good famous person.

[Fpoonsie]

:lol

DiCaprio usually isnt even the best actor in the movie he's in, let alone of all time. Go through his films. Its usually the case he was out-performed by someone else.



Thoroughly disagree, but then again, not everyone can get THESE co-stars...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_AKLvmi_1wZs/Sgpsi0K5o-I/AAAAAAAAAWE/m31BCl7dQUk/s400/YouTube+-+Peter+Pan+(ECDL)+y+Big+(Tom+Hanks).jpg

http://d.yimg.com/ao/util/anysize/391,http:%2F%2Fa323.yahoofs.com%2Fymg%2Flifestylec hannels__10%2Flifestylechannels-125125615-1219711160.jpg%3FymmoXrADxe2tYVOm?sig=8sKK6ApOa9HB yc9JDhqmI.oJcOA-

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/01/21/science/castaway533.jpg

[BRHornet45]

sons Samuel Jackson has to be in there

[da_suns_fan]

Tom Hanks had a string a decade ago...Hasn't done anything worthy since...
he has become "Tom Hanks" in everything he is in. Is he acting? I find him to be a nice guy. But I don't really consider him much of an actor. He is a good famous person.

:lol

You must have not seen "Road To Perdition", "The Lady Killers", "The Terminal", "Charlie Wilson's War" or even "Catch me if you can". All this decade.

None of those characters even remotely resembles Hanks in his natural mannerisms, speech patterns, or personality.

Yeah, I consider that "acting".

[sonic21]

:lol

You must have not seen "Road To Perdition", "The Lady Killers", "The Terminal", "Charlie Wilson's War" or even "Catch me if you can". All this decade.

None of those characters even remotely resembles Hanks in his natural mannerisms, speech patterns, or personality.

Yeah, I consider that "acting".

i thought his acting was horrible in The Terminal and the Da Vinci Code.

[manufan10]

Tom Hanks in Toy Story was brilliant! :toast

[dirk4mvp]

Thoroughly disagree, but then again, not everyone can get THESE co-stars...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_AKLvmi_1wZs/Sgpsi0K5o-I/AAAAAAAAAWE/m31BCl7dQUk/s400/YouTube+-+Peter+Pan+(ECDL)+y+Big+(Tom+Hanks).jpg

http://d.yimg.com/ao/util/anysize/391,http:%2F%2Fa323.yahoofs.com%2Fymg%2Flifestylec hannels__10%2Flifestylechannels-125125615-1219711160.jpg%3FymmoXrADxe2tYVOm?sig=8sKK6ApOa9HB yc9JDhqmI.oJcOA-

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/01/21/science/castaway533.jpg


:rollin

[B-Hath]

This thread has gone 6 pages without mention of Kevin Spacey?! You guys have lost all credibility.

[manufan10]

Jim Carey. He's the only guy I know that can successfully have a fist fight with himself.

[dirk4mvp]

Jim Carey. He's the only guy I know that can successfully have a fist fight with himself.

Edward Norton kicked the shit out of himself.