Carroll for Banks?

[Phillip]

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/61211/20090819/raptors_discussing_banks_for_carroll_swap_with_dal las/


Not bad. Gives the Mavs yet another expiring contract to offer in 2010. Also a solid backup PG (who plays quite good defense) that will actually have a chance at having some playing time and contributing to the team, unlike Carroll.

[Ghazi]

Would be a good move for the guys in blue IMO. Not a difference maker for better or worse, but solid!

[Culburn369]

I remember when Banks was negotiating with the Suns and another team a few years back (for his big contract)...he got so upset that his father said he'd locked himself in his bedroom and wouldn't come out.

tee, hee.

[Leetonidas]

Marcus Banks is pretty horrible. But so is Matt Carroll, so who cares.

[Phillip]

Marcus Banks is pretty horrible. But so is Matt Carroll, so who cares.

No one is counting on him to be some quality player or anything. The main focus was the contract details. Way to miss the point, which should be expected in your case. :tu

[ploto]

Raptors have been trying to trade Banks. They know they will probably have to take on a longer deal to shed Banks salary. Kind of funny to see Rasho, Hedo, and now Matt possibly all back together again. Matt's contract is interesting because its cost declines each year, but he shot awful last year!

[Leetonidas]

No one is counting on him to be some quality player or anything. The main focus was the contract details. Way to miss the point, which should be expected in your case. :tu

Obviously he is an expiring contract. My point was that they're both horrible players so who really cares, it's not really interesting news. So yeah, fuck yourself, Phil.

[ploto]

Obviously he is an expiring contract.

Neither are.

[Phillip]

Obviously he is an expiring contract. My point was that they're both horrible players so who really cares, it's not really interesting news. So yeah, fuck yourself, Phil.

Considering that it's not some sort of breaking news about Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili's latest porn video with each other, I wouldn't expect it to be very interesting to you.

[Leetonidas]

Pretty homosexual thinking on your part there.

[ploto]

According to a couple of league sources and I can't corroborate this with any of my most trusted Toronto folks, Raptors GM Bryan Colangelo's got another deal bubbling, one that would send guard Marcus Banks to the Dallas Mavericks for Matt Carroll, adding a little long-term salary but providing coach Jay Triano with a shooter that he could use deep on the bench.

I'm warned -- and therefore so are you -- that the proposed transaction remains in its relative infancy and if this summer's proven anything it's that nothing's done until it's done...

Banks? Well, Banks never really worked out after being obtained in the Shawn Marion trade last season. He hardly played, was mediocre when he did and then got hurt and missed about the last month of the season.

He didn’t take the team’s suggestion and play in the summer league last month – although he was in Las Vegas to meet with the staff and work out – and the GM’s been trying to deal him for months...

http://thestar.blogs.com/raptors/

[Phillip]

I love watching homosexual activities, especially when it involves Tony Parker!! LOL!!!!1!!

[AZLouis]

I remember when Banks was negotiating with the Suns and another team a few years back (for his big contract)...he got so upset that his father said he'd locked himself in his bedroom and wouldn't come out.

tee, hee.

What'd it take Cubby?

$16 million to get him to unbolt the door?

[IronMexican]

He can't stay away from Marion.

[mavs>spurs2]

Obviously he is an expiring contract. My point was that they're both horrible players so who really cares, it's not really interesting news. So yeah, fuck yourself, Phil.

Lol I thought you used to be a pretty laid back poster. Here lately you're nothing but a straight up bitch

lol 4-1

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

What the hell is with Dallas and ex-Suns players?

[Phillip]

Lol I thought you used to be a pretty laid back poster. Here lately you're nothing but a straight up bitch

lol 4-1

nah, he's always been a hot head.

[Leetonidas]

Not really. Nothing to get butt hurt over.

[Leetonidas]

Lol I thought you used to be a pretty laid back poster. Here lately you're nothing but a straight up bitch

lol 4-1

lol @ you thinking I give a shit as to what some faceless fuck on the interbutts thinks of my online persona. :lmao

[monosylab1k]

Expiring contract or not, why the hell would Dallas do this?

They've got 3 PG's on the roster, 3.5 if you count Terry. Meanwhile, Josh is a SF playing SG, JET is undersized at the 2, and Quinton Ross may or may not be all that good. We actually need Matt Carroll for the end of our bench, not Marcus Banks.

[monosylab1k]

Expiring contract or not, why the hell would Dallas do this?

They've got 3 PG's on the roster, 3.5 if you count Terry. Meanwhile, Josh is a SF playing SG, JET is undersized at the 2, and Quinton Ross may or may not be all that good. We actually need Matt Carroll for the end of our bench, not Marcus Banks.

Unless maybe they're getting things in motion to make a move for Ramon Sessions. Which only makes sense if Barea is part of the deal, since JJ Barea is basically a homeless man's Ramon Sessions.

[Phillip]

lol @ you thinking I give a shit as to what some faceless fuck on the interbutts thinks of my online persona. :lmao

lol butthurt

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Expiring contract or not, why the hell would Dallas do this?

They've got 3 PG's on the roster, 3.5 if you count Terry. Meanwhile, Josh is a SF playing SG, JET is undersized at the 2, and Quinton Ross may or may not be all that good. We actually need Matt Carroll for the end of our bench, not Marcus Banks.


I think you might be overreacting a bit to Dallas losing Matt Carroll.

[monosylab1k]

I think you might be overreacting a bit to Dallas losing Matt Carroll.

It just makes no sense either way. It's like Donnie Nelson got all this praise for getting a couple expiring contracts and turning it into Marion, so now he's trying to fill the entire roster with expiring contracts. Problem is, he's gotta trade them all now.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

It's like Donnie Nelson got all this praise for getting a couple expiring contracts and turning it into Marion, so now he's trying to fill the entire roster with expiring contracts. Problem is, he's gotta trade them all now.


This I agree with. If he doesn't turn their expiring contracts into anything, then it was a pointless trade. I also understand Donnie Nelson has done little to earn the faith and trust of Dallas fans.

[Ghazi]

I trust my beloved front office and Donnie :). They seem to have learned that the team as was assembled wasn't good enough and are aggressively pursuing avenues to add talent to the team :), indicated by what I would consider a solid offseason.

[Bruno]

It would be a nice little trade for Dallas.

Mavs will do some moves in the 2010 summer with Dampier non-guaranteed contract as main piece. Banks will then have an expiring contract and would be another asset to add at Dampier's contract.

[loveforthegame]

If there isn't more to it then it's a salary dump for the Mavs plain and simple. Banks will be a factor as much as Carroll would be.

[Phillip]

if there isn't more to it then it's a salary dump for the mavs plain and simple. Banks will be a factor as much as carroll would be.

+1

[sribb43]

Neither guy would see PT....only garbage time. So if it saves the mavs some money then good for them

[spursfan1000]

This may put the Mavs over the top

[DPG21920]

Why would the Raptors do this?

[spursfan1000]

Why would the Raptors do this?

They are adding a 3 point shooter in Carrol, he will do good if he can get his shot down with them.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Why would the Raptors do this?


Was wondering this.

[DPG21920]

Didn't they just get Belinelli?

[DPG21920]

Also, correct me if I am wrong, aren't teams looking to clear cap space for next summer? Banks does not expire until 2011, correct?

[spursfan1000]

Didn't they just get Belinelli?

Caroll could be used as a injury savior lol

[DPG21920]

Not bad. The Heat really need to move James Jones' contract. If Wade opts out and Jones is moved for an expiring contract the Heat have the chance to have no money on the books for 2010. Of course they will likely pick up the team options on Chalmers, Beasley and Cook. Even then that is only around 7 million. If they can't move Jones they can cut him and only owe him around 2 million a year over the remainder of his contract.

The heat have done a damn good job with their own little 2010 plan. I bet the Knicks wish they were in such a position. The Heat can use this amazing offseason coming up to litterally re-build in 3 months.

And I just made a whole post thinking that Banks was on the heat. Damnit.

:lol

[Ditty]

mavs still suck

[spursfan1000]

Not bad. The Heat really need to move James Jones' contract. If Wade opts out and Jones is moved for an expiring contract the Heat have the chance to have no money on the books for 2010. Of course they will likely pick up the team options on Chalmers, Beasley and Cook. Even then that is only around 7 million. If they can't move Jones they can cut him and only owe him around 2 million a year over the remainder of his contract.

The heat have done a damn good job with their own little 2010 plan. I bet the Knicks wish they were in such a position. The Heat can use this amazing offseason coming up to litterally re-build in 3 months.

And I just made a whole post thinking that Banks was on the heat. Damnit.

:lol

[timtonymanu]

Where Marion goes, Banks goes.

[ploto]

Why would the Raptors do this?

They want another shooter since Kapono and Parker are gone; they want to trade Banks; it lowers payroll in the short term.

[Phillip]

Also, correct me if I am wrong, aren't teams looking to clear cap space for next summer? Banks does not expire until 2011, correct?

yes, but expiring contracts being thrown into trades are becoming more and more valuable these days. the mavs could make a big splash in free agency with a sign-and-trade, and expiring contracts are always welcome in those.

plus, they are making pretty much the same every year, just banks' contract comes off a couple years earlier. so why not?