Vujacic cut from Slovenian National team

[tlongII]

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/sports/Sasha-Vujacic-Cut-From-Slovenian-National-Team-54606902.html


Things are going from bad to worse for the Laker with the headband. Just a couple months after going 0 for the NBA Final, Sasha Vujacic has been cut by the Slovenian national team as it prepares for Eurobasket next week.

Think about that for a second — Vujacic is not one of the 12 best players in Slovenia now. If the NBA had a “cash for clunkers” program the Lakers might be getting in line.




:lmao :lol :rollin

[Goran Dragic]

This guy's embarrassing to our country.

[manufan10]

:lmao

[hater]

Walton, Vujachick, Morrison

:lmao :lmao

[Muser]

It's not really funny, it's common knowledge the guy sucks major ass.

[resistanze]

It's not really funny, it's common knowledge the guy sucks major ass.

It's funnier when his home country acknowledges it and takes action, though.

[The Franchise]

That is pretty damn sad.

[alamo50]

The Machine is broken?

[lil_penny]

Sharpshooter.... lol

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

How is this even a surprise? Maybe Slovenia Federation were last ones to realize he sucks?

[KSeal]

The Machine is broken?

Yeah, he hurt his knee a little while ago so I guess that held him back. He sucks regardless but I'd assume him being injured had something to do with being cut. If not :lmao

[IronMexican]

I read this on CL yesterday and couldn't stop laughing.

[Indazone]

I Machine..Machine lose firing targeter
Machine seem to be firing shot off to left err maybe to right
Machine even sometime now fire off airball
Maybe if Kobe come and touch Machine Poot Machine fixed
Someone please bring oil and lube up Machine where need most.
Machine bend over and take one quart from behind.
Machine be like greased lighting again.

[Ditty]

he is the ginobili stopper

[Kamnik]

I will repeat myself for the 9999th time... I don't understand what he is doing in the NBA.

He is supposed to be a shooter, a good shooter. CHECK OUT HIS % during this last season... he SUCKS! And he didn't have any major health issues.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I will repeat myself for the 9999th time... I don't understand what he is doing in the NBA.

He is supposed to be a shooter, a good shooter. CHECK OUT HIS % during this last season... he SUCKS! And he didn't have any major health issues.

90% of all the role players in the NBA suck. The average NBA role player is not good enough to make a good Euroleague roster or a good European national team roster.

This is why NBA fans are the most retarded of all sports fans on Earth. They actually believe this crazy fantasy that all NBA players are better than any players anywhere else. It is laughable to say the least.

The NBA has like 20% of its players being good (many among the best in the world and of course most of all the best players of world) but the other 80% of NBA players are very VERY VERY bad and not as good as the average Euroleague player for example not even by quite along margin.

[ginobili's bald spot]

90% of all the role players in the NBA suck. The average NBA role player is not good enough to make a good Euroleague roster or a good European national team roster.

This is why NBA fans are the most retarded of all sports fans on Earth. They actually believe this crazy fantasy that all NBA players are better than any players anywhere else. It is laughable to say the least.

The NBA has like 20% of its players being good (many among the best in the world and of course most of all the best players of world) but the other 80% of NBA players are very VERY VERY bad and not as good as the average Euroleague player for example not even by quite along margin.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/spanova01.html


:rollin

[VivaPopovich]

That is pretty damn sad.

And funny.

[Culburn369]

I will repeat myself for the 9999th time... I don't understand what he is doing in the NBA.

There is NBA level talent for half, perhaps 2/3 (if you really stretch it) of the 30 NBA teams.

[JamStone]

The Lakers would cut him too if they could save money by doing it.

[IronMexican]

Booed at the parade.



Dogg, that was the best part of the parade. I booed as loud as I could. I loved when this one guy said as they announced his name "aww hell naw":lol

[Texas_Ranger]

This is so funny. Shitty season. O points in the finals. Booed at the parade. Now cut from the National team. Is it true they put his ass off the bus in the middle of no where?

LOL!!!

They did that the last time. That's why he didn't want to play for the National team for years, and now when he comes as a NBA player, he gets cut.:hat

[Mel_13]

90% of all the role players in the NBA suck. The average NBA role player is not good enough to make a good Euroleague roster or a good European national team roster.

This is why NBA fans are the most retarded of all sports fans on Earth. They actually believe this crazy fantasy that all NBA players are better than any players anywhere else. It is laughable to say the least.

The NBA has like 20% of its players being good (many among the best in the world and of course most of all the best players of world) but the other 80% of NBA players are very VERY VERY bad and not as good as the average Euroleague player for example not even by quite along margin.

And yet a scrub like Von Wafer, who has never made more than the NBA minimum and may not have even been able to get that much this year, is able to secure a multi-year multi-million contract to play for an elite Greek Euroleague team. Why is Olympiacos paying so much money for an NBA castoff when you say there are so many better and cheaper European players available? Do they really believe he is worth all that money or are they not as good at evaluating talent as KBP?

[urunobili]

sad thing is that probably his contract was what made Ariza leave...

[Culburn369]

sad thing is that probably his contract was what made Ariza leave...

Had nothing to do with it. Buss could have Odom & Artest OR Ariza. That was the only choice. Buss made Ariza leave so Odom would have his "wish." That's why Buss got a discount off Odom. Part of Odom's deal was teaming with Artest. He wanted Arty. He got Arty. And he got less money. Once Buss ran Ariza off...it was over.

[mavs>spurs2]

Had nothing to do with it. Buss could have Odom & Artest OR Ariza. That was the only choice. Buss made Ariza leave so Odom would have his "wish." That's why Buss got a discount off Odom. Part of Odom's deal was teaming with Artest. He wanted Arty. He got Arty. And he got less money. Once Buss ran Ariza off...it was over.

that's not what he's saying. Sasha's big contract would be better served given to Ariza

[Banzai]

that's not what he's saying. Sasha's big contract would be better served given to Ariza

I agree...Sasha is a ______ fill in the blank.

[Culburn369]

that's not what he's saying. Sasha's big contract would be better served given to Ariza

That's pie-in-the-sky. When Sasha got his contract Ariza was injured and The Machine was producing.

[mavs>spurs2]

That's pie-in-the-sky. When Sasha got his contract Ariza was injured and The Machine was producing.

of course there was no knowing that then, but now he's wishing that the money was spent on Ariza instead. I think that's the only point he was making, that money could have been used on Ariza instead.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/spanova01.html


:rollin

Spanoulis is better than ANY player the Spurs have.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

And yet a scrub like Von Wafer, who has never made more than the NBA minimum and may not have even been able to get that much this year, is able to secure a multi-year multi-million contract to play for an elite Greek Euroleague team. Why is Olympiacos paying so much money for an NBA castoff when you say there are so many better and cheaper European players available? Do they really believe he is worth all that money or are they not as good at evaluating talent as KBP?

You are a fucking moron. Just like Pargo and Childress Wafer will be much worse in Euroleague than in NBA.

[DPG21920]

Spanoulis is better than ANY player the Spurs have.

Even you have to know that is a lie. You should be banned for the lies. You are racist against the Spurs.



You are a fucking moron. Just like Pargo and Childress Wafer will be much worse in Euroleague than in NBA.

So why do they get offered so much money if the Euro's are better? Are these American's the lowest paid players on the team? Or in the league? Where did Childress's pay rank in the Europe?

[Culburn369]

of course there was no knowing that then, but now he's wishing that the money was spent on Ariza instead. I think that's the only point he was making, that money could have been used on Ariza instead.

Well, thats akin to wishing Manu hadn't a played in an international exhibition game and got injured.

[DPG21920]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3501488

Agent Jim Tanner said Wednesday the three-year deal was worth about $20 million after taxes. The money is guaranteed, and Childress can opt out of the contract after each year.

The deal is the most lucrative current contract in European basketball and the biggest in Euroleague history, according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, which first reported the signing. It follows the decision by top prep prospect Brandon Jennings to sign with an Italian club team rather than play a season at Arizona.

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This says that at the time it was the biggest contract in Euroleague history. If he is not the best player, why would they pay him like it? Are the owners dumb or are the players already there not good enough to get those contracts?

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Even you have to know that is a lie. You should be banned for the lies. You are racist against the Spurs.




So why do they get offered so much money if the Euro's are better? Are these American's the lowest paid players on the team? Or in the league? Where did Childress's pay rank in the Europe?

Childress did not even make the THIRD team of the all Greek League awards and did not even make the 4th team of honorable mention. In Euroleague he was not even given a single one vote by the media and coaches to be just even nominated to have a chance to even try for all Euroleague teams.

Please stop the comedy routine here. I guess according to you last year Marbury was best player in the NBA or maybe Steve Francis? After all they made so much more money than other NBA players it must be a simple fact then.

And Spanoulis is definitely better than any player on the Spurs roster. Manu = washed up. Spanoulis is a better version of Parker and Duncan is nearing being washed up and not close at all to what he used to be. No one else on Spurs roster is even in same discussion with Spanoulis.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3501488

Agent Jim Tanner said Wednesday the three-year deal was worth about $20 million after taxes. The money is guaranteed, and Childress can opt out of the contract after each year.

The deal is the most lucrative current contract in European basketball and the biggest in Euroleague history, according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, which first reported the signing. It follows the decision by top prep prospect Brandon Jennings to sign with an Italian club team rather than play a season at Arizona.

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This says that at the time it was the biggest contract in Euroleague history. If he is not the best player, why would they pay him like it? Are the owners dumb or are the players already there not good enough to get those contracts?

The best player?:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lm ao:lmao:lmao


OMG you think Childress is the best player in Europe? WTF are you on drugs? He was the 8th man on Olympiacos last season.

[ChumpDumper]

Spanoulis is a scrub.

His horrible performance in the NBA proves it.

[ChumpDumper]

Spanoulis is a scrub.

His horrible performance in the NBA proves it.

[DPG21920]

Childress did not even make the THIRD team of the all Greek League awards and did not even make the 4th team of honorable mention. In Euroleague he was not even given a single one vote by the media and coaches to be just even nominated to have a chance to even try for all Euroleague teams.

Please stop the comedy routine here. I guess according to you last year Marbury was best player in the NBA or maybe Steve Francis? After all they made so much more money than other NBA players it must be a simple fact then.

And Spanoulis is definitely better than any player on the Spurs roster. Manu = washed up. Spanoulis is a better version of Parker and Duncan is nearing being washed up and not close at all to what he used to be. No one else on Spurs roster is even in same discussion with Spanoulis.

I am not disagreeing with you that Childress was not great in Euroleague. My question was why did they offer him the largest contract in Euroleague history if he was not near the best player?

Spanoulis is no where near the level of Parker, Richard Jefferson, Duncan or Ginobili when healthy. Be real. Spanoulis is a good player, but be honest.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Spanoulis is a scrub.

His horrible performance in the NBA proves it.

Doug Collins, Coach K, and Mike D'Antoni also said at Olympics that he would be the best point guard in the NBA if he got a fair coach. But you are smarter than them about the issue right?

[DPG21920]

The best player?:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lm ao:lmao:lmao


OMG you think Childress is the best player in Europe? WTF are you on drugs? He was the 8th man on Olympiacos last season.

You are misunderstanding. I never said he was the best. I said "if he was not the best player, why was he being paid like it?"

Was that a mistake or are Euro clubs stupid?

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I am not disagreeing with you that Childress was not great in Euroleague. My question was why did they offer him the largest contract in Euroleague history if he was not near the best player?

Spanoulis is no where near the level of Parker, Richard Jefferson, Duncan or Ginobili when healthy. Be real. Spanoulis is a good player, but be honest.

You are in a fantasy and delusion. Seriously no wonder your posts about Greek or European basketball are so ridiculous. I won't even bother wasting time arguing with you about it anymore.

[DPG21920]

Also, comparing Childress to Francis is not the same. At the time, Francis was a very good player and he still was not the highest paid.

Childress got the biggest contract in the history of the Euroleague knowingly not being the best. Why?

[DPG21920]

.....

[DPG21920]

You are in a fantasy and delusion. Seriously no wonder your posts about Greek or European basketball are so ridiculous. I won't even bother wasting time arguing with you about it anymore.

Why can't you answer the question? I think Childress sucks in Europe. But why did the owners give him so much money? It seems like a waste. Why can you not answer a simple question?

[pawe]

Spanoulis is better than ANY player the Spurs have.

You are making the funnies!

[ChumpDumper]

Here is eurobasket.com's current list of Americans in Greece's A1 league. With a couple of notable excpetions, all these players either washed out of the NBA or never even made it out of an NBA training camp.

Avery William 188 G 79 Trikalla (A1)
Batiste Mike 203 F 77 Panathinaikos (A1)
Baxter Lonny 203 C 79 Panionios (A1)
Belser Corey 200 F 82 Olimpia L. (A1)
Bracey Chris 198 F 80 ESTIA Egaleo (A1)
Bryant Travon 206 F 83 AEK (A1)
Calathes Nick 198 G 89 Panathinaikos (A1)
Calathes Pat 208 G/F 85 C.C. Marousi (A1)
Childress Josh 203 G/F 83 Olympiakos (A1)
Clark Keydren 173 G 84 Aris (A1)
Daniels Will 203 F 86 Kavala/P. (A1)
Gardner Jelani 198 G 75 Trikalla (A1)
Greer Lynn 186 G 79 Olympiakos (A1)
Grundy Anthony 189 G 79 Panellinios (A1)
Hardin DeVon 211 C 86 ESTIA Egaleo (A1)
Harris Lans 196 G 84 VAP Kolossos (A1)
Johnsen Britton 208 F 79 PAOK (A1)
Keys William A. 188 G 77 C.C. Marousi (A1)
Martin Torrelll 196 G/F 85 Kavala/P. (A1)
Massie Chris 206 F 77 Trikalla (A1)
McGrath Donnie 193 G 84 ESTIA Egaleo (A1)
Miles Aaron 186 G 83 Panionios (A1)
Nelson Spencer 203 F 80 Aris (A1)
Nicholas Andrew 191 G 81 Panathinaikos (A1)
Pargo Jannero 187 G 79 Olympiakos (A1)
Patterson A. 204 F/C 75 ESTIA Egaleo (A1)
Shakur Mustafa 190 G 84 Panellinios (A1)
Sims Lewis 203 F/C 73 ESTIA Egaleo (A1)
Smith Steven 203 F 83 VAP Kolossos (A1)
Stevenson J. 200 F 75 C.C. Marousi (A1)
Taylor Donell 198 G 82 ESTIA Egaleo (A1)
Thomas Jamel 198 F/G 76 Olimpia L. (A1)
Thompson D.J. 173 G 85 AEK (A1)
Wright Bracey 191 G 84 Aris (A1)

Here's eurobasket.com's current list of Greek players in the NBA:

Koufos Kosta

[eisfeld]

Doug Collins, Coach K, and Mike D'Antoni also said at Olympics that he would be the best point guard in the NBA if he got a fair coach. But you are smarter than them about the issue right?

Proof or Ban!

[ChumpDumper]

Here's eurobasket.com's list of A1 stat leaders for the major categories from last season.

Points: Steven Smith (USA) - 8 NBA games played. 46 D-League games played.

Rebounds: Torin Francis (USA) - No NBA games played.

Assists: Thodoros Papaloukas (Greece) - congratulations!

Steals: Aaron Miles (USA) - 22 NBA games played. 27 D-League games played.

Blocks: DeVon Hardin (USA) - No NBA games played.

[Biggems]

the best team in Greece, couldnt beat the worst team in the NBA

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Here's eurobasket.com's list of A1 stat leaders for the major categories from last season.

Points: Steven Smith (USA) - No NBA games played. 46 D-League games played.

Rebounds: Torin Francis (USA) - No NBA games played.

Assists: Thodoros Papaloukas (Greece) - congratulations!

Steals: Aaron Miles (USA) - 22 NBA games played. 27 D-League games played.

Blocks: DeVon Hardin (USA) - No NBA games played.

You are a funny guy. You post this to prove what? That only one player on the list (the Greek one) is able to actually make the roster of a good club in Europe?

The rest of them cannot even make the roster of a good club. You are a funny guy with the crap you post. You embarrass yourself over and over.

[ChumpDumper]

According to Eurobasket, the majority of top ten players in every major statistical category consists of American scrubs.

USA > Greece.

Even in Greece.

[DPG21920]

Why do the Euro clubs waste the most money on Childress?

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Here is eurobasket.com's current list of Americans in Greece's A1 league. With a couple of notable excpetions, all these players either washed out of the NBA or never even made it out of an NBA training camp.

Avery William 188 G 79 Trikalla (A1)
Batiste Mike 203 F 77 Panathinaikos (A1)
Baxter Lonny 203 C 79 Panionios (A1)
Belser Corey 200 F 82 Olimpia L. (A1)
Bracey Chris 198 F 80 ESTIA Egaleo (A1)
Bryant Travon 206 F 83 AEK (A1)
Calathes Nick 198 G 89 Panathinaikos (A1)
Calathes Pat 208 G/F 85 C.C. Marousi (A1)
Childress Josh 203 G/F 83 Olympiakos (A1)
Clark Keydren 173 G 84 Aris (A1)
Daniels Will 203 F 86 Kavala/P. (A1)
Gardner Jelani 198 G 75 Trikalla (A1)
Greer Lynn 186 G 79 Olympiakos (A1)
Grundy Anthony 189 G 79 Panellinios (A1)
Hardin DeVon 211 C 86 ESTIA Egaleo (A1)
Harris Lans 196 G 84 VAP Kolossos (A1)
Johnsen Britton 208 F 79 PAOK (A1)
Keys William A. 188 G 77 C.C. Marousi (A1)
Martin Torrelll 196 G/F 85 Kavala/P. (A1)
Massie Chris 206 F 77 Trikalla (A1)
McGrath Donnie 193 G 84 ESTIA Egaleo (A1)
Miles Aaron 186 G 83 Panionios (A1)
Nelson Spencer 203 F 80 Aris (A1)
Nicholas Andrew 191 G 81 Panathinaikos (A1)
Pargo Jannero 187 G 79 Olympiakos (A1)
Patterson A. 204 F/C 75 ESTIA Egaleo (A1)
Shakur Mustafa 190 G 84 Panellinios (A1)
Sims Lewis 203 F/C 73 ESTIA Egaleo (A1)
Smith Steven 203 F 83 VAP Kolossos (A1)
Stevenson J. 200 F 75 C.C. Marousi (A1)
Taylor Donell 198 G 82 ESTIA Egaleo (A1)
Thomas Jamel 198 F/G 76 Olimpia L. (A1)
Thompson D.J. 173 G 85 AEK (A1)
Wright Bracey 191 G 84 Aris (A1)

Here's eurobasket.com's current list of Greek players in the NBA:

Koufos Kosta

And there is only 2 players on the list that are good at Greek league level. Nicholas and Batiste. The others are either considered average (like let's say Childress) or terrible (like let's say Pargo).

And besides that list is obviously not "current". So do you have the ability to make a good point even once in history of your time in this forum?

There is ONLY 2 good players in Greek league from that entire list. The rest are average or below average and some of them suck.

[ChumpDumper]

You are a funny guy. You post this to prove what? That only one player on the list (the Greek one) is able to actually make the roster of a good club in Europe?I agree those are bad teams because of they don't allow more Americans to be on them.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

According to Eurobasket, the majority of top ten players in every major statistical category consists of American scrubs.

USA > Greece.

Even in Greece.

You are a stupid guy.

These players you brag about playing for teams like AEL and Egaleo and such...............you would be really laughed out of EVERY international sports forum on internet.

The very best player on these small types of clubs would not even make it as a 15th man on the bigger clubs.

[ChumpDumper]

And there is only 2 players on the list that are good at Greek league level. Nicholas and Batiste. The others are either considered average (like let's say Childress) or terrible (like let's say Pargo).There are no Greeks playing at a good level in the NBA.


And besides that list is obviously not "current". So do you have the ability to make a good point even once in history of your time in this forum?I said it was eurobasket's list. I'm not going to waste my time bringing it up to date because my point that there are far more Americans playing well in Greece than Greeks playing in the NBA is proved and would only be reinforced.


There is ONLY 2 good players in Greek league from that entire list. The rest are average or below average and some of them suck.There is only one Greek in the NBA and he sucks.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I agree those are bad teams because of they don't allow more Americans to be on them.

Each Greek club is allowed 3 Greek players now they changed the rule. You are really funny though...........Devon Hardin? I almost fell out of my chair. Maybe the worst big man in Greek League last year and this guy is an NBA draft pick. Please give me a break.

[Biggems]

USA > Greece in basketball, that is a given.....

KBP.....not only do Americans dominate Greeks on the basketball court....they also dominate the conversations.....notice we are speaking American in all of these arguments, not Greek? USA OWNS.......now run along and eat your gyro.

[Spursfan092120]

Doug Collins, Coach K, and Mike D'Antoni also said at Olympics that he would be the best point guard in the NBA if he got a fair coach. But you are smarter than them about the issue right?
You couldn't be more full of shit if you were Rosie O'Donnell's asscrack

[ChumpDumper]

Each Greek club is allowed 3 Greek players now they changed the rule.You mean three American players?

Why three?


You are really funny though...........Devon Hardin? I almost fell out of my chair. Maybe the worst big man in Greek League last year and this guy is an NBA draft pick. Please give me a break.I agree he's a scrub, but he led the league in blocks. That's how horrible Greek basketball is.

It is dominated by American scrubs so badly that their numbers are restricted out of fear.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

And you are also wrong. Steve Smith has played in NBA before and he did not lead Greek league in scoring.

Also Hardin is an NBA draft pick from just last year. Smith is decent player for Greek level, Francis is below average and Hardin bad for the level.

[ChumpDumper]

You are a stupid guy.

These players you brag about playing for teams like AEL and Egaleo and such...............you would be really laughed out of EVERY international sports forum on internet.

The very best player on these small types of clubs would not even make it as a 15th man on the bigger clubs.the very best Greek player sucked in the NBA.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

the best team in Greece, couldnt beat the worst team in the NBA

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Panathinaikos would crush and annihilate the scrub NBA teams.

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:blah:blah:blah:rollin:rollin

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

You couldn't be more full of shit if you were Rosie O'Donnell's asscrack

Doug Collins said it after Greece Argentina game.

[Spursfan092120]

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Panathinaikos would crush and annihilate the scrub high school teams.

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:blah:blah:blah:rollin:rollin
fify

[Biggems]

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Panathinaikos would crush and annihilate the scrub NBA teams.

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:blah:blah:blah:rollin:rollin

Who?

[Spursfan092120]

Doug Collins said it after Greece Argentina game.
link? proof? video? ANYTHING? I could say Doug Collins said I could be the best player in the NBA with a good coach too, but that doesn't mean shit without proof.

[ChumpDumper]

And you are also wrong. Steve Smith has played in NBA before and he did not lead Greek league in scoring.He led the A1 league in points per game according to eurobasket.

And I apologize, he played 8 games for the 76ers, averaging 0.6 points and 0.8 rebounds. Now he's a starter in the sucky Greek league.


Also Hardin is an NBA draft pick from just last year. Smith is decent player for Greek level, Francis is below average and Hardin bad for the level.According to eurobasket, they are the league average leaders in their categories. If you have something that says otherwise, post it.

[Biggems]

Doug Collins is a nimrod....if you are taking his word as gospel, then prepare for hell, fire, and brimstone.

[angelbelow]

lol

[DPG21920]

KBP, please answer my question. You misunderstand me. I never said the Childress was the best player.

I just asked why was he paid the largest contract in the Euroleague when he sucks? What is the reasoning behind it?

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

6 Americans considered good at Greek level last year. Most all those players listed by chump not found here and also no Childress and Pargo. Most of those American players didn't win shit last year either team wise or individual wise in Greek league but chump is bragging about putting up stats in some small club.......:lol

See for yourself since he loves to claim eurobasket.com as the source for who are the best players last year in Greece. I highlight Spanoulis and also the Americans.

http://www.eurobasket.com/reports/2009/6/7.asp

All-Greek A1 League Awards 2008-2009

Player of the Year - Vassilis Spanoulis (193-G-82) of Panathinaikos Athens

Guard of the Year - Vassilis Spanoulis (193-G-82) of Panathinaikos Athens

Forward of the Year - Jarod Stevenson (200-F-75) of Costa Cafe Marousi

Center of the Year - Nikola Pekovic (210-C-86) of Panathinaikos Athens

Most Improved Player of the Year - Manolis Papamakarios (190-G-80) of Panellinios Athens

Bosman Player of the Year - Nikola Pekovic (210-C-86) of Panathinaikos Athens

Import Player of the Year - Mike Batiste (203-F-77) of Panathinaikos Athens

Domestic Player of the Year - Vassilis Spanoulis (193-G-82) of Panathinaikos Athens

Defensive Player of the Year - Dimitris Diamantidis (196-G-80) of Panathinaikos Athens

Coach of the Year - Soulis Markopoulos of Marousi

1st Team
Vassilis Spanoulis (193-G-82) of Panathinaikos Athens
Lynn Greer (186-G-79) of Olympiakos S.F.P. Pireus
Jarod Stevenson (200-F-75) of Costa Cafe Marousi
Giannis Bourousis (212-C-83) of Olympiakos S.F.P. Pireus
Nikola Pekovic (210-C-86) of Panathinaikos Athens

2nd Team
Sarunas Jasikevicius (192-G-76) of Panathinaikos Athens
Andrew Nicholas (191-G-81) of Panathinaikos Athens
Prodromos Nikolaidis (201-F-78) of AS Trikalla 2000
Loukas Mavrokefalides (207-C-84) of Costa Cafe Marousi
Mike Batiste (203-F-77) of Panathinaikos Athens

Honorable Mention
Konstantinos Charalampidis (189-G-76) of Costa Cafe Marousi
Anthony Grundy (189-G-79) of Panellinios Athens
Steven Smith (203-F-83) of VAP Kolossos
Kostas Kaimakoglou (206-C/F-83) of Costa Cafe Marousi
Andrew Betts (216-C-77) of Aris Thessaloniki
Aaron Miles (186-G-83) of Panionios ON Telecoms Athens


Also the ONLY American player that won a team award was Batiste. NBA fans "Pargo and Childress dominate Greece" :rollin:lmao

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

KBP, please answer my question. You misunderstand me. I never said the Childress was the best player.

I just asked why was he paid the largest contract in the Euroleague when he sucks? What is the reasoning behind it?

Olympiacos owners are NBA only fans just like almost all NBA fans are. The owners of Olympiacos grew up in Chicago and they were Bulls fans and had season tickets court side during Jordan era.

They are just like other NBA fans and believe the lie that a player like Ryan Bowen (who was cut by TAU for poor play - yet has played many years in NBA) would "dominate in Europe" because "the worst player in NBA would average 30 and be MVP of Europe".

Olympiacos owners are just as retarded as most other NBA fans.

[ChumpDumper]

And you are also wrong. Steve Smith has played in NBA before and he did not lead Greek league in scoring.If you want to go by total points scored, fine.

The A1 leader in total points was Anthony Grundy (USA) - 26 NBA games played, 44 D-League games played.

[DPG21920]

Dang KBP, Spanoulis dominated the league. Why did the stupid owners pay Childress more than him? Is he pissed?

[ChumpDumper]

So according to to KBP, Americans make up fully 40% of Greece's first and second teams and 44% of the total honors roster while their numbers were restricted to two per team.

USA! USA! USA!

[jbspurs]

NBA average player not good enough to make a good Euroleague team? PLEEEEEASE!!!

No wonder average/scrub ex NBA player like Spanoulis struggles in Euroleague....

[kromediablo]

He's caught a bad case of the Yipps!!! ....ask chuck knoblauch how to recover!!

Sasha Vuja-Yipps lmai

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

His own mother probably hates him now.

[Spurtacus]

ROFL. Only two hours into Wednesday but this news totally made my day.

[Culburn369]

...beats the snot outta the Mavs knockin' ya upside the cocksucker, eh, Dun?

tee, hee.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

He led the A1 league in points per game according to eurobasket.

And I apologize, he played 8 games for the 76ers, averaging 0.6 points and 0.8 rebounds. Now he's a starter in the sucky Greek league.

According to eurobasket, they are the league average leaders in their categories. If you have something that says otherwise, post it.

Smith did NOT lead Greek league in scoring. The official season by season leaders can be seen at basket.gr

[ChumpDumper]

If you want to go by total points scored, fine.

The A1 leader in total points was Anthony Grundy (USA) - 26 NBA games played, 44 D-League games played.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

If you want to go by total points scored, fine.

The A1 leader in total points was Anthony Grundy (USA) - 26 NBA games played, 44 D-League games played.

Greek league official stats leaders NEVER go by average. There is ONLY 26 regular season games so of course they do not go by average dumb ass.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Dang KBP, Spanoulis dominated the league. Why did the stupid owners pay Childress more than him? Is he pissed?

They play on different teams.

[ChumpDumper]

Greek league official stats leaders NEVER go by average.So? It's still an American.
There is ONLY 26 regular season games so of course they do not go by average dumb ass.I said average, so there is no reason for you to whine.

Either way, it's an American.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

So according to to KBP, Americans make up fully 40% of Greece's first and second teams and 44% of the total honors roster while their numbers were restricted to two per team.

USA! USA! USA!

Are you an idiot?

Do you know that there are said to be over 300 American NBA players that have played in Greek league and ONLY TWO OF THEM ever won a Greek league MVP award.

[ChumpDumper]

Are you an idiot?No.


Do you know that there are said to be over 300 American NBA players that have played in Greek league and ONLY TWO OF THEM ever won a Greek league MVP award.Because all the best American players are in the NBA. Only scrubs play in the Greek league.

No Greek has ever won the NBA MVP award.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

So? It's still an American.I said average, so there is no reason for you to whine.

Either way, it's an American.

And you are a dumb ass either way. Do not compare Smith to Grundy. Smith is not good enough to make a mid level sized club's roster.

Grundy is. He can play on Eurocup level teams.

[ChumpDumper]

And you are a dumb ass either way. Do not compare Smith to Grundy. Smith is not good enough to make a mid level sized club's roster.

Grundy is. He can play on Eurocup level teams.Smith's average was higher.

Grundy's total was higher.

Both American.

Both better than Greeks.

In Greece.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

No.

Because all the best American players are in the NBA. Only scrubs play in the Greek league.

No Greek has ever won the NBA MVP award.

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao:lmao

No good American ever played in Greece??? :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao

You are really a funny guy. Your basketball knowledge is very sad.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao:lmao

No good American ever played in Greece??? :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao

You are really a funny guy. Your basketball knowledge is very sad.The best Americans play in the NBA.

American scrubs play in Greece, although they are better than Greeks -- as proved by the rule limiting their numbers on Greek rosters.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Smith's average was higher.

Grundy's total was higher.

Both American.

Both better than Greeks.

In Greece.

Then how come Smith cannot make the roster of anything but a small club? Then how come Grundy can only make the roster of mid sized clubs? How come Smith cannot make it to Eurocup level? How come Grundy cannot still after all these years make a Euroleague roster?

Amazing how players that cannot even make a Euroleague roster are "better than all Greek players". You are a real genius.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

The best Americans play in the NBA.

American scrubs play in Greece, although they are better than Greeks -- as proved by the rule limiting their numbers on Greek rosters.

You are insane. There have been MANY top level NBA players that have played in Greece you moron.

[ChumpDumper]

You are insane. There have been MANY top level NBA players that have played in Greece you moron.After they washed out or were kicked out or locked out of the NBA.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

After they washed out or were kicked out or locked out of the NBA.

Once again you post pure lies.

[ChumpDumper]

Once again you post pure lies.So who are you talking about?

You lied when you said only two Americans won the Greek league MVP.

There were three Americans; Nick Galis was born in America and played all his basketball as a youth in America before winning four MVPs in Greece.

He was American.

And a scrub by NBA standards -- as were David Rivers and Alphonso Ford.

American scrubs dominate A1.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

So who are you talking about?

You lied when you said only two Americans won the Greek league MVP.

It was three Americans, Nick Galis was born in America and played all his basketball as a youth in America before winning four MVPs in Greece.

He was American.

And a scrub by NBA standards -- as were David Rivers and Alphonso Ford.

American scrubs dominate A1.

he never played in NBA dumb ass.

[ChumpDumper]

he never played in NBA dumb ass.Exactly!

He wasn't good enough to play in the NBA.

Scrub.

Just like all the American scrubs currently dominating A1.

[Ghazi]

thread about fuckin Vujacic gets 100+ replies?

[ChumpDumper]

thread about fuckin Vujacic gets 100+ replies?Who?

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Just announced, Rubio signed officially with Barcelona. 5 years contract.

[Biggems]

ChumpDumper....why do you waste your time with this ignorant tool. you know he is just acting a fool, trying to seem like he knows what he is talking about, when all he knows is drivel.

We all know USA > World at everything except some lame ass sport called soccer.

BTW, if we wanted to be the best at soccer, we would be.....but quite frankly, we don't care enough about it.

[lefty]

Vajinacic :lol :lmao :rollin:downspin::whine:king:hat

:lobt2:?????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *

[Slo spurs fan]

ChumpDumper....why do you waste your time with this ignorant tool. you know he is just acting a fool, trying to seem like he knows what he is talking about, when all he knows is drivel.

We all know USA > World at everything except some lame ass sport called soccer.

BTW, if we wanted to be the best at soccer, we would be.....but quite frankly, we don't care enough about it.

:lmao:lmao:lmao

Handball, waterpolo, all winter sports including hockey... and we don´t care about you not care about soccer.:p:

[Mel_13]

:lmao:lmao:lmao

Handball, waterpolo, all winter sports including hockey... and we don´t care about you not care about soccer.:p:

While handball dominance must be conceded, water polo is a poor example to illustrate your point. American men and women took the silver medals at the 2008 Olympics:p:

[in2deep]

Maybe the machine forgot to download its latest updates?

[Slo spurs fan]

While handball dominance must be conceded, water polo is a poor example to illustrate your point. American men and women took the silver medals at the 2008 Olympics:p:

He said usa >>>>> rest of the world. If you are second, you can´t say you are better than world. True?

Edit: Spain is basketball WC also.

[angel_luv]

This is so funny. Shitty season. O points in the finals. Booed at the parade. Now cut from the National team. Is it true they put his ass off the bus in the middle of no where?

LOL!!!

You booed one of your own players during your championship parade? How mean! And to think, you guys were in good moods that day. Rough crowd.

[Dex]

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/3498/2le56wj.gif

[IronMexican]

You would have thought the crowd was from San Antonio the way he got booed. I cringed.

You mean, you didn't boo? Disappointed in you, laka.

That was worth getting sun burnt.

[angel_luv]

You would have thought the crowd was from San Antonio the way he got booed. I cringed.

aw I feel badly for him. Poor guy. :(

I don't boo guys who play on the Spurs- even when I am not a fan of theirs, such as was the case when Nazr played here.
I might have cringed, rolled my eyes, and bit my lip as Nazr pumped faked over and over again, but I never once booed ol Butterfingers.

Normally, I root for players even after they leave the Spurs- unless they do things like bad mouth Bruce Bowen in an interview like Traitor Barry did.
I booed Brent the last time the Rockets played here and will do so until he aploigizes on t.v. and in print about what he said about Bruce.

[BLACKMAMBA24]

2009 CHAMPION. Soft Roy better be ready for Ron Ron.

[BLACKMAMBA24]

Wasn't too horribly bad when he bailed down the lane and banged on two queens.

[fo'shizzle]

2009 CHAMPION. Soft Roy better be ready for Ron Ron.

:rolleyes

[stretch]

aw I feel badly for him. Poor guy. :(

I don't boo guys who play on the Spurs- even when I am not a fan of theirs, such as was the case when Nazr played here.
I might have cringed, rolled my eyes, and bit my lip as Nazr pumped faked over and over again, but I never once booed ol Butterfingers.

Normally, I root for players even after they leave the Spurs- unless they do things like bad mouth Bruce Bowen in an interview like Traitor Barry did.
I booed Brent the last time the Rockets played here and will do so until he aploigizes on t.v. and in print about what he said about Bruce.

lol pumped faked

[Slomo]

This is so funny. Shitty season. O points in the finals. Booed at the parade. Now cut from the National team. Is it true they put his ass off the bus in the middle of no where?

LOL!!!

Not really left in the middle of nowhere, but yes the first time he was cut from the NT he was left behind at the training facility. I still don't know exactly why (I'm sure it wasn't intentional) but it did happen.


You would have thought the crowd was from San Antonio the way he got booed. I cringed.

That's cold! Kinda funny, but cold none the less.

[angel_luv]

lol pumped faked

:lol my bad!

[mavs>spurs2]

Just announced, Rubio signed officially with Barcelona. 5 years contract.

It's 5 YEAR contract dumbass, not years. Your English is not better than most on this board liar.

[Culburn369]

Christ, we're back to doing spelling indictments? You weak shit, you.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

It's 5 YEAR contract dumbass, not years. Your English is not better than most on this board liar.

WTF is your problem?

[ata]

Vujacic's side of story: http://www.vujacic.net/2009/08/28/official-statement-from-sasha-regarding-his-departure-from-slovenian-national-team/

BTW: I believe him more than our NT coach and Slovenian basketball organisation.

[Kamnik]

Vujacic's side of story: http://www.vujacic.net/2009/08/28/official-statement-from-sasha-regarding-his-departure-from-slovenian-national-team/

BTW: I believe him more than our NT coach and Slovenian basketball organisation.

Basically in this statement...

1. he blames everyone and everything for him being cut except himself and his piss poor play
2. no mention about shitty footwear that got him the injury
3. HE CRIES ABOUT BEING FORCED TO TRAIN TOO HARD
4. as I see it... I understand completely why his own fans boo him and even his own teammates don't seem to like him too much (lakers&NT)

He is a big wannabe diva who sucks in the NBA, sucks in NT and is in his head a great LA champion even though in reality he contributed to that championship as much as most of average posters around here.

[Ghazi]

At the end of the day my heart is sad and angry, but now it is time to get back to work in L.A. to help the Lakers win another NBA Championship Ring in 2010!!!!


lol

[sendman]

Basically in this statement...

1. he blames everyone and everything for him being cut except himself and his piss poor play
2. no mention about shitty footwear that got him the injury
3. HE CRIES ABOUT BEING FORCED TO TRAIN TOO HARD
4. as I see it... I understand completely why his own fans boo him and even his own teammates don't seem to like him too much (lakers&NT)

He is a big wannabe diva who sucks in the NBA, sucks in NT and is in his head a great LA champion even though in reality he contributed to that championship as much as most of average posters around here.

Here is one for you.
In the past Vujacic was called out for a lot of things, like no talent pansy, crybaby, catch and shot brick layer, foul machine, stupid, foul prone, one trick pony...and much, much more.

But, NEVER, I repeat NEVER, was he called out for lack of work ethics. He has a reputation of being a gym rat. Even Kobe once, in some interview, called him the hardest working Laker.

So, next time think, before you type.

[Kamnik]

Here is one for you.
In the past Vujacic was called out for a lot of things, like no talent pansy, crybaby, catch and shot brick layer, foul machine, stupid, foul prone, one trick pony...and much, much more.

But, NEVER, I repeat NEVER, was he called out for lack of work ethics. He has a reputation of being a gym rat. Even Kobe once, in some interview, called him the hardest working Laker.

So, next time think, before you type.

He DID cry out that the practice was too hard. READ his statement before you write.

[sendman]

He DID cry out that the practice was too hard. READ his statement before you write.
No, he didn't cry, he had an opinion. Or he is not allowed to have an opinion?

[Culburn369]

...not if he's a Laker.

[mavs>spurs2]

WTF is your problem?

You claim your English is better than most on this board which is all LIES

[Kobayagi]

The truth has finally come out. The slovenian basketball legend and a member of FIBA hall of fame, Ivo Daneu, has disclosed the real reason the Machine was cut from the team.

Apparently, Vujacic demanded to have his friend stay with him during training camp. He demanded a separate hotel room for him and claimed this guy was also his physiotherapist.

The players are not allowed to have their families with them in their hotel and this guy wanted to bring his boyfriend/physiotherapist. :lol

[Pero]

Omg....

[The Franchise]

The truth has finally come out. The slovenian basketball legend and a member of FIBA hall of fame, Ivo Daneu, has disclosed the real reason the Machine was cut from the team.

Apparently, Vujacic demanded to have his friend stay with him during training camp. He demanded a separate hotel room for him and claimed this guy was also his physiotherapist.

The players are not allowed to have their families with them in their hotel and this guy wanted to bring his boyfriend/physiotherapist. :lol

:wow That's nasty!!!