Ted Kennedy dead at 77

[BRHornet45]

sons I just saw this on Fox


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/01/21/pub-ted-kennedy-dies/

[Trainwreck2100]

Do democrats go to heaven.............................do democrats believe in heaven?`

[Marcus Bryant]

Good fucking riddance.

[Def Rowe]

What an amazing life. Props Ted.:toast

[Nbadan]

I smell a cover-up!

[Trainwreck2100]

alas now i must drown my sorrows

[Nbadan]

...really, the dude only killed one person

[Trainwreck2100]

well now that he's gone a little part of me is dead so he's killed 1.09 people

[balli]

May you be in heaven half an hour before the devil knows you're dead.

[DMX7]

Do democrats go to heaven.............................do democrats believe in heaven?`

I certainly hope you don't believe in heaven if this is intended to mock someone who just died of cancer.

[Stringer_Bell]

If Sen. Kennedy could "actively" serve as a United States Senator while battling brain cancer, then Abdel Basset Ali al-Megrahi could have served out his sentence despite calls for "compassionate release."

Also, Chappaquiddick.

[Yonivore]

There goes 60.

Meanwhile, Mary Jo Kopeckne was unavailable for comment.

[DarrinS]

Mary Jo Kopeckne will be there to greet him.

[Spawn]

Mary Jo Kopeckne will be there to greet him.

You really think they are going to the same place?

[JoeChalupa]

The Lion of the Senate has passed. All Americans have benefited from his legislation. RIP.

[manufan10]

Rip

[Bender]

Good fucking riddance.
I wondered if anyone would have the guts... :toast

[ploto]

He obviously screwed up in his personal life in many ways, but many young people have no idea of the things they take for granted that in many ways exist because of his work in the Senate.


For five decades, virtually every major piece of legislation to advance the civil rights, health and economic well being of the American people bore his name and resulted from his efforts. -- President Obama
It will be interesting to see if his death somehow energizes the health care reform movement for which he worked for years.

[TheProfessor]

He obviously screwed up in his personal life in many ways, but many young people have no idea of the things they take for granted that in many ways exist because of his work in the Senate.
I think that's a fairer measure of the man. Deeply flawed, but did a lot of good.

[rjv]

the predictability of forums is amazing sometimes.

rest in peace.

[whottt]

Uh the man left a woman to die and has done nothing but attempt to cover it up and lie about it since the day it happened. It's made even worse by the fact that she was still alive in the car for an extended period of time while he was trying to save his career.


I hope whatever monument they put on Kennedy's grave, it looks a little somethine like this:

http://www.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=tbn&q=http://www.betterlifestylesinc.com/images/pictures/HomeToiletImage2.jpg&usg=AFQjCNEuqrZhnWEdyoTlAdGIeyMf2eg-xQ


And I can think of no better asswiping material than the "legislation" he passed.


The fact that this poor excuse for a human being went to his grave without ever owning up to what he did means exactly one thing, the world and the human race are now a better place for his passing.


The fact that this self serving self indulgent piece of human excrement is no longer living a life of privilege is the best thing to happen to our government in decades.

Government of the people, by the people, for the people, not above the people.

[LnGrrrR]

The fact that this poor excuse for a human being went to his grave without ever owning up to what he did means exactly one thing, the world and the human race are now a better place for his passing.

I'm assuming you're talking about drinking and driving?

[whottt]

I'm assuming you're talking about drinking and driving?

Assume whatever you want...I don't consider a defender of Ted Kennedy worth a reply. I consider you a willing and proud an accessory to the needless death of an innocent woman and the coverup that followed. I do not consider you to be a normal human being. I consider you to be great deal less.


But sure...drinking and driving, at the very least he should have to face the same consequences drunk drivers who kill people now have to face...which is jail time, and no doubt this lump of shits signature is on some of that legislation as well.


May you spend the afterlife engulfed in the fabs of flat on this disgusting bloated slug that you now defend.

[LnGrrrR]

Assume whatever you want...I don't consider a defender of Ted Kennedy worth a reply. I consider you a willing and proud an accessory to the needless death of an innocent woman and the coverup that followed. I do not consider you to be a normal human being. I consider you to be great deal less.


But sure...drinking and driving, at the very least he should have to face the same consequences drunk drivers who kill people now have to face...which is jail time, and now doubt this lump of shits signature is on some of that as well.


May you spend the afterlife engulfed in the fabs of flat on this disgusting bloated slug.

lol wtf ever :rolleyes

I didn't defend Ted Kennedy at all. I just had no clue what you were referring to. He did admit to the crash so I wasn't sure what you meant, whether you thought he was drinking and driving, or that he really didn't try to save her and lied about that.

Your ravings and rantings are amusing though, I'll give you that.

[whottt]

If you don't care enough to look into what happened, what are you doing in this thread, sheep?

[hope4dopes]

ding..dong..the wicked witch is dead.

[whottt]

ding..dong..the wicked witch is dead.

Why insult the wicked witch like that?




Seriously, if people wouldn't try to pass this guy off as hero, I probably wouldn't despise him near as much as I do, well actually I probably still would if you want to be truthful about it. He's a far from a hero as it's possible to be. And the word hero is lesser for his association with it.

He's not a hero, he's a coward, a liar and a guy that had no business making decisions as a part of a government, he should have been serving in it's prisons.

[possessed]

I piss on his grave.

[Bender]

I remember a few years ago, T.K. was going around making speeches about how the 30-30 cartridge was a "cop-killer" cartridge and should be banned.

:lol what a forking idiot... 30-30 came out in the 1890's and it's pretty weak compared to other rifle rounds. ALL rifle rounds will penetrate a BP vest, which are just made to stop common pistol rounds.
In fact, he wanted to ban all rifle rounds that would penetrate body armour, including most deer hunting cartridges.

It was Senate Amendment 2619. Almost all Dems voted for it, but many more Repubs voted against.

Idiot.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Hopefully dick cheney is soon to follow:toast

[xrayzebra]

You gotta hand it to old swimmer, Teddy boy. He almost got to pick
his own successor. Or maybe he did.

But it is not a great loss, his passing. He was a proven coward, liar and
self centered.

I would bet he his trying to convince the old devil that he should install
air conditioning for all the other poor souls that cant afford it.:lol

[clambake]

damn whottt.....that's it?..........that's all you got?........now is your chance to bring it!!

let this shit out!!!! you're all backed up!!!! Bring it!!!!

[clambake]

You gotta hand it to old swimmer, Teddy boy. He almost got to pick
his own successor. Or maybe he did.

But it is not a great loss, his passing. He was a proven coward, liar and
self centered.

I would bet he his trying to convince the old devil that he should install
air conditioning for all the other poor souls that cant afford it.:lol

Holy Shit! its ray ray!

[Bender]

the MSM insists on glorifying him...
:vomit:

[xrayzebra]

Holy Shit! its ray ray!

Hey Clam, did you send flowers or make a contribution to the DNC in
his memory?:lol

[LnGrrrR]

If you don't care enough to look into what happened, what are you doing in this thread, sheep?

You're an idiot.

I know what happened, you moron. I'm asking what part of his story you thought was a lie.

[LnGrrrR]

Seriously, if people wouldn't try to pass this guy off as hero, I probably wouldn't despise him near as much as I do, well actually I probably still would if you want to be truthful about it. He's a far from a hero as it's possible to be. And the word hero is lesser for his association with it.


REALLY? I thought that was Hitler. :)

[clambake]

Hey Clam, did you send flowers or make a contribution to the DNC in
his memory?:lol

how ya doin, ray? where you been?

[xrayzebra]

Clam, just come by to lurk every now and then. Had a lot going on lately. Missed
all the "same" old arguments and looking around I see things haven't changed that much.
But I just had to big a found adieu to old TeddyBaby, a better liberal never lied, I mean
lived than him.

How you been?

[Crookshanks]

I'm sure this is a sad time for his family and friends, but I'm not heartbroken over his passing. As far as health care reform - now that Robert "Sheets" Byrd is in the hospital and Ted Kennedy is in hell, and many other dems are jumping ship, the Senate has nowhere near the 60 votes needed to pass anything.

The man had the law changed in Massachusetts just so Gov. Romney couldn't appoint a successor if Kerry had won. Lately, he wanted it changed back so the Democrat Gov could appoint someone right away instead of waiting for a special election. Nothing but pure partisan politics. It would be a fitting legacy if the people of Massachusetts have finally wised up and elect a Republican to fill his seat! :lmao

Oh - and Mary Jo Kopechne finally has justice - albeit 40 years too late...

[clambake]

Clam, just come by to lurk every now and then. Had a lot going on lately. Missed
all the "same" old arguments and looking around I see things haven't changed that much.
But I just had to big a found adieu to old TeddyBaby, a better liberal never lied, I mean
lived than him.

How you been?
not bad. good actually! except for fortune preferred. i lost my ass on that one.

the family life is great. my kid is playing golf like a madman. i'm jealous. wife is terrific. we're getting ready to celebrate our 34th.

hows your family?

[SonOfAGun]

This was an obvious hit carried out by the Obama administration.

With the health care reform bill in mind, Teddy was more valuable to The State dead than alive.

Obama's timing is impressive. Economic collapse right before election. Health care reform martyr dead just as the health care reform was on its death bed just as Obama vacations in MV. Props to you good sir :toast

[xrayzebra]

not bad. good actually! except for fortune preferred. i lost my ass on that one.

the family life is great. my kid is playing golf like a madman. i'm jealous. wife is terrific. we're getting ready to celebrate our 34th.

hows your family?

I envy your son, I haven't played now in about four years. I have been
having some bad back problems. Go Friday to get it shot up again, not a
pleasant thing, but it helps some.

Family is growing, damn, I have four great grandkids now. And nearly all
my grandkids are out of high school. Hell, most have already graduated
from college. Saturdays are the pits, I have one who graduated from
UT, the liberal in the family, one from Texas Tech and one from A&M
Galveston.

Hey congratulations on the 34th. My 56th is coming up next March.

When we all get together, which fortunately is quite often, it is a sight
and sound to behold. But the time of year I really love is coming up.
Thanksgiving and Christmas. Everyone is here or at my Daughters
in Del Rio. Well I say everyone, some now go to their in-laws, gotta
share, I guess, damnit........:lol

Hey, gotta have something political......how is this hope and change
treating you. Damn good article in Wall Street Journal this morning,
editorial. Had a lot of information on the assumptions the WH and
CBO used that are such BS. The nine T they are talking about is
just wishful thinking......get a chance read it.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203946904574301043095303118.html

[whottt]

damn whottt.....that's it?..........that's all you got?........now is your chance to bring it!!

let this shit out!!!! you're all backed up!!!! Bring it!!!!


If they put a toilet on his grave I'll be more than happy too.

I know the death of Orca is a sad day for you so I'll just say think god this piece of shit is rotting, too bad they didn't use his swollen carcass to end starvation in Africa...and let you grieve.

[spurster]

It's always good to have something to bring out the mean-spirited Christians.

[clambake]

I envy your son, I haven't played now in about four years. I have been
having some bad back problems. Go Friday to get it shot up again, not a
pleasant thing, but it helps some.
what kind, cortisone?


Family is growing, damn, I have four great grandkids now. And nearly all
my grandkids are out of high school. Hell, most have already graduated
from college. Saturdays are the pits, I have one who graduated from
UT, the liberal in the family, one from Texas Tech and one from A&M
Galveston.
pardon my french, but thats fucking amazing.


Hey congratulations on the 34th. My 56th is coming up next March.
shouldn't we have gone through at least 2 divorces by now? :lol


When we all get together, which fortunately is quite often, it is a sight
and sound to behold. But the time of year I really love is coming up.
Thanksgiving and Christmas. Everyone is here or at my Daughters
in Del Rio. Well I say everyone, some now go to their in-laws, gotta
share, I guess, damnit........:lol
you sound like a lucky guy, ray!


Hey, gotta have something political......how is this hope and change
treating you. Damn good article in Wall Street Journal this morning,
editorial. Had a lot of information on the assumptions the WH and
CBO used that are such BS. The nine T they are talking about is
just wishful thinking......get a chance read it.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203946904574301043095303118.html
i'll check it out.

stay in touch.

[FromWayDowntown]

Hooray! A man is dead and my political agenda will now be advanced by his passing!

Senator Kennedy wasn't a great man, but he was obviously well-liked and deeply respected by his colleagues and that says something. One might think that he must have been at least marginally effective in his public service, too, given the vitriol thrown his way even in death. There wouldn't be much need to vilify a guy who never got anything done.

RIP Ted Kennedy. The substantial burdens of your public life -- many self-inflicted and still others cast by the cruel hand of fate -- are behind you.

[clambake]

If they put a toilet on his grave I'll be more than happy too.

I know the death of Orca is a sad day for you so I'll just say think god this piece of shit is rotting, too bad they didn't use his swollen carcass to end starvation in Africa...and let you grieve.

thats it? damned disappointing, whottt.

[coyotes_geek]

It's always good to have something to bring out the mean-spirited Christians.

No kidding. I hated the guy's politics too, but that doesn't mean I'm going to celebrate him dying of brain cancer.

[LnGrrrR]

Hey congratulations on the 34th. My 56th is coming up next March.

When we all get together, which fortunately is quite often, it is a sight
and sound to behold. But the time of year I really love is coming up.
Thanksgiving and Christmas. Everyone is here or at my Daughters
in Del Rio. Well I say everyone, some now go to their in-laws, gotta
share, I guess, damnit........:lol


Dang XRay... how old are you? I'm surprised you know how to turn a computer on :D :lol

Not to derail the thread too much, but I'm hoping to get with my side of the clan a week or so before Thanksgiving, to show off the new kid, then to the wife's side of the family for Thanksgiving, then off to Hawaii... woohoo. Looking forward to starting my own little family.

[LnGrrrR]

thats it? damned disappointing, whottt.

Give him time. I'm sure he'll have some more pointless bile to spew soon enough. He's like a volcano of festering hate/stupidity.

[whottt]

http://naughtrelevant.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/fat-ted-kennedy.jpg

Sad sad day for libs...this pathetic mound of corpulence that let the woman he was cheating on his wife with die while spending an extended amount of time trapped in a sinking car due entirely to his own intoxicated ignorance, not only did not even try to save her, but acted first and foremost to save his own career and protect himself from the consequences of his actions...has died.

What a sad sad day, for all who admire him.


I'm just glad he was terrified of dying like his brothers if he seriously challenged for the Presidency...at least his cowardice produced something worthwhile in his lifetime.


I am sure all Democrats feel they are lesser that this fat lump of cowardly corrupt shit is no longer among their number...

Don't feel too bad guys, you've still got Manson, all thanks to your humanity.

[clambake]

Give him time. I'm sure he'll have some more pointless bile to spew soon enough. He's like a volcano of festering hate/stupidity.

maybe this will work:

"This is a sad, sad day in American history with the passing of such a great man".

Tpark

[clambake]

oops....too late. now he's gettin fired up.

still a little weak. he must have lost a step.

[ploto]

And I can think of no better asswiping material than the "legislation" he passed.

Immigration and Nationality Act
Elementary and Secondary Education Act
Fair Housing Act
Higher Education Act
Individuals with Disabilities Education Act
National Military Child Care Act
Americans with Disabilities Act
National and Community Service Trust Act
Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act
Women, Infants, and Children Nutrition Program
State Children's Health Insurance Program

[whottt]

not bad. good actually! except for fortune preferred. i lost my ass on that one.

the family life is great. my kid is playing golf like a madman. i'm jealous. wife is terrific. we're getting ready to celebrate our 34th.

hows your family?

No way anybody actually belives this shit do they?

This dude is on here all day long every day...not only do I doubt he does any kind of exercise, he probably pisses in a cup so he won't miss anything important on the Spurs Talk political forum. It's pretty much his entire life. Someone let me know the next time clambake isn't on the forum all day long. IT's possible he isn't...just everytime I've ever been in here.

[clambake]

thats weak. you have lost a step.

[DarrinS]

Evidently, Obama is now the last remaining Kennedy brother.


God, Chris Matthews never disappoints.


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/08/26/msnbcs_matthews_barack_is_the_last_kennedy_brother .html

[clambake]

hey whottt, i saw you riding your bike the other day. is that a new football helmet?

[George Gervin's Afro]

http://naughtrelevant.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/fat-ted-kennedy.jpg

Sad sad day for libs...this pathetic mound of corpulence that let the woman he was cheating on his wife with die while spending an extended amount of time trapped in a sinking car due entirely to his own intoxicated ignorance, not only did not even try to save her, but acted first and foremost to save his own career and protect himself from the consequences of his actions...has died.

What a sad sad day, for all who admire him.


I'm just glad he was terrified of dying like his brothers if he seriously challenged for the Presidency...at least his cowardice produced something worthwhile in his lifetime.


I am sure all Democrats feel they are lesser that this fat lump of cowardly corrupt shit is no longer among their number...

Don't feel too bad guys, you've still got Manson, all thanks to your humanity.


You still have dick cheney!

[whottt]

Immigration and Nationality Act
Elementary and Secondary Education Act
Fair Housing Act
Higher Education Act
Individuals with Disabilities Education Act
National Military Child Care Act
Americans with Disabilities Act
National and Community Service Trust Act
Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act
Women, Infants, and Children Nutrition Program
State Children's Health Insurance Program

Oh well fucking ah, simply brillaint...so all we have to do with negligent murderers is put them in congress and let them pass some fucking legislation...

Probably few a pedophile have passed some legislation too ploto, I guess that washes it all way.

[whottt]

I think I'm beginning to get it...all unrepentent criminals should be allowed to serve in congress....and pass a little legislation, and alls well t hat ends well.


What makes you guys pieces of shit, is that you aren't willing to take Mary Jo Kopeckne's place, in the name of Mr. Kennedy's legislation.

Ploto, if you go drown yourself in a car, to show solidarity with Mr. Kennedy's legislation, I will never attack your savior again.


Swear to god.

Go on....prove the good he did outweighs the bad.


You too clammy, I'll even hold the door open for you.


If you aren't willing to do that, then you should the fuck up about him being a hero or doing any good, because you aren't the one that this piece of shit killed.

[clambake]

just drop some more acid. you'll be fine.

[LnGrrrR]

I think I'm beginning to get it...all unrepentent criminals should be allowed to serve in congress....and pass a little legislation, and alls well t hat ends well.


What makes you guys pieces of shit, is that you aren't willing to take Mary Jo Kopeckne's place, in the name of Mr. Kennedy's legislation.

Ploto, if you go drown yourself in a car, to show solidarity with Mr. Kennedy's legislation, I will never attack your savior again.


Swear to god.

Go on....prove the good he did outweighs the bad.


You too clammy, I'll even hold the door open for you.


If you aren't willing to do that, then you should the fuck up about him being a hero or doing any good, because you aren't the one that this piece of shit killed.

Wow... it's awesome. It's like whottt is teaching a course on logical fallacies, and is going out of his way to put every single one of them into as few posts as possible.

[whottt]

just drop some more acid. you'll be fine.

What's funny if you think I'm upset...


Ted Kennedy dead, finally, why in the world would that upset me? It's the best political news I've heard in years.

Do you think I'm upset about it or something?

You just really don't get me....at all.

[clambake]

Wow... it's awesome. It's like whottt is teaching a course on logical fallacies, and is going out of his way to put every single one of them into as few posts as possible.

i love it. he's like a child that lashes out against everything for attention.

[whottt]

Wow... it's awesome. It's like whottt is teaching a course on logical fallacies, and is going out of his way to put every single one of them into as few posts as possible.

Oh no no...Ted Kennedy passed legislation, that's the important thing, not Mary Kopeckne's death. Who gives a fuck about her, the greater good was served.


My logic isn't fucked you stupid fucking retard. You just aren't much of a human being. You're an organic political platform(a hopeflessly self deceived one) with a keyboard. And you're about as liberal as my butthole.

[DMX7]

Assume whatever you want...I don't consider a defender of Ted Kennedy worth a reply.

If you ever get sick and die of cancer... I'll be the one dancing on top of your grave.

Doesn't sound so chrisitan does it? But kind of sounds like what you've been saying.

[DarrinS]

Some of the people that post in this forum are just terrible people and often painfully white. What is painfully white? They feel pain from the NBA and any person that does not recognize white power.

:rolleyes


You are one stupid fuck.

[DarrinS]

LOL at top ten Google searches today:


http://www.google.com/trends/hottrends


1. tropical storm danny
2. mary jo kopechne
3. chappaquiddick
4. vicki kennedy
5. chappaquiddick incident
6. joan kennedy
7. ted kennedy quotes
8. mike barnicle
9. kfc new sandwich
10. chapaquitic

[clambake]

kfc has a new sandwich?

[whottt]

REALLY? I thought that was Hitler. :)

Hey...Hitler passed a lot of legislation in his time.

[whottt]

If you ever get sick and die of cancer... I'll be the one dancing on top of your grave.

Doesn't sound so chrisitan does it? But kind of sounds like what you've been saying.

What makes you think I'm a christian stupid fuck?


You are stereotyping me....that's exactly what racist bigots do.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Somehow, I doubt that this drunk driving incident is the main reason people dislike Kennedy. It's pretty silly how people refer to it as murder, when it doesn't fit the definition by any means. Yes, he screwed up badly, likely committed manslaughter (not murder). Let's get that over with. I don't think anything clears him of his wrongdoing.

The point is, then anytime some political character does something illegal, that's all that matters to those who dislike him. When in truth, had George W Bush did it, you would see a reversal of roles here. A more recent example is when Jerry Fallwell died.

He was never convicted of anything.. yet since he's a lib the right acts as if he has been found guilty..

[coyotes_geek]

He was never convicted of anything.. yet since he's a lib the right acts as if he has been found guilty..

And if he were a conservative the left would be acting just the same. Lefties and righties are nothing more than identical twins who like to bicker.

[George Gervin's Afro]

I disagree with that completely. He got extremely lucky with a good defense. The facts are that he didn't report the incident for over 8 hours and came up with a wild story to support it. Anyone else would have been tried and found guilty. I'm not going to deny for one second that his name and political ties did not help him out.

I find it very hard to believe that the judicial system, the victim's family, DA's office, Police dept, and media would all be in cahoots to get him off. I guess it is possible that this happened but I find it really hard to believe.

[whottt]

Some of the people that post in this forum are just terrible people and often painfully white. What is painfully white? They feel pain from the NBA and any person that does not recognize white power.


Wow, someone says something you don't like and the first thing you bring up is skin color, you're just like the guy that says all blacks are lazy when he sees one on welfare and all mexicans are theives because he sees one being arrested for theft.

The first thing you see and react too is skin color, this makes you stupider than most animals. You represent that absolute lowest common denomintor of human sentience, and the easiest to manipulate.

I bet I could be a klan leader and still wind up the head of your congress just on the basis of saying what you want to hear and tapping into your racial hatred. All the while justifying my own superiority over how easily I am deceiving you.


You are completely ignorant and you are a racist who can't see beyond skin color, a superficial characteristic whose purpose is primarily adaptive, doesn't define most intelligent beings, and one over which we have absolutely no control.


On top of that you are what I like to call a false liberal...


You are the exactly the type of ignorant trash the white man was trading with when he gave the black man money for capturing and selling his own brother...and the brown man glass as he took over his land for little more than healthcare..er, I mean glass beads.


Make no mistake about this, you are an ignorant person, stupider than most animals, and people who think as you do are the easiest to manipulate, and usually the first to wind up licking the boots of their masters.


I could make a fake nic and have you eating out the palm of my hand just by saying what you so obviously want to hear....laughing at how completely fucking stupid you are as I do it.


I give you credit, you make no attempt to hide it at least, which ranks you actually above most liberals as far as integrity goes, but still far inferior when it comes to intelligence, and that's saying something, because there are some pretty fucking stupid libs on this forum.

[coyotes_geek]

I find it very hard to believe that the judicial system, the victim's family, DA's office, Police dept, and media would all be in cahoots to get him off. I guess it is possible that this happened but I find it really hard to believe.

Let me guess, you think OJ didn't do it either.

[Wild Cobra]

Let me guess, you think OJ didn't do it either.
If Kennedy was innocent, then OJ was absolutely innocent!

[whottt]

I can say with all honesty, I despised Ted Kennedy just as much when I was voting for Clinton and Gore as I did when I voted for Bush, Bush and McCain.


Make no mistake about this, I do not like Ted Kennedy regardless of his politics. However, beyond all doubt the people defending him are defending him because of his politics.

Because there is absolutely no other reason to defend him.


There is no one else like him that has served in congress in recent memory.

[whottt]

Anyway, sorry for throwing a bunch of cowshit into your fan, tell you what, elect me to congress and I'll pass a little legislaton to make up for it...

Deal?

[whottt]

I still can't avoid smiling when I read this. All i can translate it to is:

It's called projection. The same way you are racist and project racial motivations onto others.


Like I said, manipulating someone like you is very easy. A dog has more complex throught processes..seriously, try to get a dog to react first to the color of another dog sometime.

[whottt]

So why do you guys hate Bush so much....a lot of legislation wouldn't have been passed without him.

[clambake]

So why do you guys hate Bush so much....a lot of legislation wouldn't have been passed without him.

i'm trying to decide which is my favorite......there's so many!

hmmm, sarbanes-oxley act or no child left behind.

i'll focus on others later.

[whottt]

Technically speaking a President generally has more true say over what legislation is passed than a Senator..Bush probaby passed more.

So what exactly is the problem with Bush?

[whottt]

Cue: War for Oil rant by car driving greenhouse gas producing lib(that's not directed at you btw clam, I get the feeling you don't do much traveling)

Also please don't bring up dead americans or innocent civillians, because obviously if you pass a little legislaton for the greater good their death's don't mean shit.

And at least they knew they might be called to die for their country or the actions of their leader, unlike Mary Kopeckne.

[whottt]

No, it's called being angry from having inferior intellect.

Boy would you feel like a complete idiot if you knew what one of my other nics was.

[LnGrrrR]

Hey...Hitler passed a lot of legislation in his time.

.. and Ted Kennedy didn't? :lmao

[LnGrrrR]

Oh no no...Ted Kennedy passed legislation, that's the important thing, not Mary Kopeckne's death. Who gives a fuck about her, the greater good was served.


My logic isn't fucked you stupid fucking retard. You just aren't much of a human being. You're an organic political platform(a hopeflessly self deceived one) with a keyboard. And you're about as liberal as my butthole.

You're the moron who can't acknowledge that a person is capable of doing both good and bad things. What's even funnier is that you think I'm some sort of huge Kennedy defender, just because I asked you a question in my original post. Classic.

What does "as liberal as my butthole" even mean? Do you take advantage of it liberally?

[clambake]

Cue: War for Oil rant by car driving greenhouse gas producing lib
i love gas. i always buy the high octane. (i get the feeling you have never needed high octane)

(that's not directed at you btw clam, I get the feeling you don't do much traveling)
is this a sales pitch from a part-time travel agent?


Also please don't bring up dead americans or innocent civillians, because obviously if you pass a little legislaton for the greater good their death's don't mean shit.
who cares about that? i'm more interested in what happened to 12 billion in cash.

And at least they knew they might be called to die for their country or the actions of their leader, unlike Mary Kopeckne.
nah,they never really found out why.

[whottt]

You must be on to me....oh o

I really think Kori has to laugh at all of these alternate ego's people have.



goddamn running for Kori's skirt in your first argument with this nic?

[whottt]

What does "as liberal as my butthole" even mean? Do you take advantage of it liberally?


Actually I do, use it every time I get the urge, however, that wasn't the point I was making, you're just too stupid to get it...I figure you'll finally figure it out about Jan of 2017.

Keep thinking about it though, you will figure it out eventually, I have no doubt.

[LnGrrrR]

Actually I do, use it every time I get the urge, however, that wasn't the point I was making, you're just too stupid to get it...I figure you'll finally figure it out about Jan of 2017.

Keep thinking about it though, you will figure it out eventually, I have no doubt.

No thanks. I don't go out of my way to unravel the clues to an awkward turn of phrase.

[whottt]

No thanks. I don't go out of my way to unravel the clues to an awkward turn of phrase.

Ok well then shut the fuck up and stop asking stupid questions.

[LnGrrrR]

Ok well then shut the fuck up and stop asking stupid questions.

Ja, mein fuhrer!

[LnGrrrR]

I'm sure this will make everyone happy as well...

The flag of the United States shall be flown at halfstaff in honor of Senator Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts through August 27th, 2009.

[DarrinS]

I'm sure this will make everyone happy as well...

The flag of the United States shall be flown at halfstaff in honor of Senator Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts through August 27th, 2009.



Nah, that's expected. When a Kennedy dies, the media has to spend the day talking about the "American royalty" that is the Kennedy family and they have to talk about the family curse.


For the record, I don't dislike all the Kennedy's -- if only the modern Dems were as conservative as JFK, this country would be in good shape.

[benefactor]

lol...whottt is in rare form in this thread.

[Wild Cobra]

I'm sure this will make everyone happy as well...

The flag of the United States shall be flown at halfstaff in honor of Senator Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts through August 27th, 2009.
I don't think he deserves it, but it's not my decision either.

[Wild Cobra]

Nah, that's expected. When a Kennedy dies, the media has to spend the day talking about the "American royalty" that is the Kennedy family and they have to talk about the family curse.
Yep, I'm going to have the TV completely off for the next several days except for things like The Discovery Channel Animal Channel, etc. I was watching the news last night when the story broke. I couldn't enjoy any program after that.

For the record, I don't dislike all the Kennedy's -- if only the modern Dems were as conservative as JFK, this country would be in good shape.I agree, and I cringe anytime a liberal invokes that great man's name.

[Wild Cobra]

I've been thinking.

Hell must really be a busy place right now. Jackson, Kennedy, etc...

[DarrinS]

I've been thinking.

Hell must really be a busy place right now. Jackson, Kennedy, etc...

:lmao

[mouse]

Not able to wait until someone is properly buried to bad mouth them tells me a lot about a person.

[SonOfAGun]

So does ditching your gf in a submerged car :king

Sheeeeeeeeeeit, that's just Teddy bein' Teddy! :toast

[Wild Cobra]

Not able to wait until someone is properly buried to bad mouth them tells me a lot about a person.
No, it's those who say nothing bad while they are alive, then badmouth them dead.

I always badmouthed him while he was alive. Why should I stop now?

[hope4dopes]

IT'S A GREAT DAY FOR THE IRISH..and the Aamericans too.

[exstatic]

Uh the man left a woman to die and has done nothing but attempt to cover it up and lie about it since the day it happened. It's made even worse by the fact that she was still alive in the car for an extended period of time while he was trying to save his career.


I hope whatever monument they put on Kennedy's grave, it looks a little somethine like this:


And I can think of no better asswiping material than the "legislation" he passed.


The fact that this poor excuse for a human being went to his grave without ever owning up to what he did means exactly one thing, the world and the human race are now a better place for his passing.


The fact that this self serving self indulgent piece of human excrement is no longer living a life of privilege is the best thing to happen to our government in decades.

Government of the people, by the people, for the people, not above the people.

I think during the course of your meth addiction, you and your need for drugs probably hurt a LOT more people than the one woman who died as the result of his DUI, so you need to step the FUCK BACK, asshole.

At least Ted's life had a fantastic second act. You're still a pathetic loser P.O.S.

[whottt]

Not able to wait until someone is properly buried to bad mouth them tells me a lot about a person.

#1. I've been trashing him since I found out he was about to kick it.

#2. You really shouldn't judge mouse, someday I might pass some legislation.

[whottt]

I think during the course of your meth addiction, you and your need for drugs probably hurt a LOT more people than the one woman who died as the result of his DUI, so you need to step the FUCK BACK, asshole.

I never killed anyone.

Is me taking a shit on that fat fuck that represents you upsetting you?

I don't give a fuck.

He's a fat worhtless fuck who spent the rest of life doing nothing more than becoming an even bigger fat worthless fuck.





At least Ted's life had a fantastic second act. You're still a pathetic loser P.O.S.



Oh yeah dickface?

I quit meth, something only about 15% of the population is ever able to do...


Did Teddy ever quit drinking?

No, and he never owned up to what he did either.

Not even on his deathbed.




Try not to get pissed off, I may nut up and go to congress to pass some legislation some day. It's a difficult job, but hopefully it will make up for all the wrongs I have ever done my life.

I mean, there's no penance like going to congress to pass some meaningful legislation...I'm still mystified why they didn't just do that with John Cooey or Ted Bundy.

Why not just elect them to congress and let them pass some meaningful legislation?

Talk about turning a negative into a positive...

[whottt]

I think the message here is, there's nothing you can do that can't be undone by sitting on your besotted ass and passing legislation...it's just a one of a kind atonement.

[Shastafarian]

:lol whottt was a meth-head. Why am I not surprised?

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm248/tackikoma/motavational%20posters/MotivatorCrystalMeth.jpg

[whottt]

And of course the main message....the fact that there people outraged by my behavior in this thread, and by Ted Kennedy's actions, not at all.


You outraged folk are even more terminally fucked in the head than Ted Kennedy is...er...was :elephant

[elbamba]

Wow...I was no fan of Kennedy but why the vitriol? Let the man rest in peace. He was a filthy rich man that spent his life in public service. I might disagree with his politics but he was a patriotic american. RIP

[Bender]

all I will say is good riddance to a worthless excuse for a politician and a human being

[whottt]

Wow...I was no fan of Kennedy but why the vitriol? Let the man rest in peace. He was a filthy rich man that spent his life in public service. I might disagree with his politics but he was a patriotic american. RIP

I'll start having respect for the dead when you guys do...everytime one of you stupid fucks attempts to portray this guy as some great American, you are disrespecting the dead.


Fuck your politics...you put your politics before you humanity, you are no longer human. And that's exactly what Teddy's champions are doing.

The more you dehumanize this woman, the more I am going to dehumanize you, and your fat pathetic slug piece of shit hero.

Our culture is going to get progressively worse, more violent, more destructive, as long as this trend to see who can outhate the other continues...I personally think it's all the psychmeds, but beyond all that, I am going to make sure liberal dehumanizers get a heavy dose of dehumanization to the best of my ability, everyting you guys bitch about it, it only points out how stupid and shortsighted you truly are.


Take the medicine you dispense, and like it.

agitate agitate agitate

[whottt]

I think during the course of your meth addiction, you and your need for drugs probably hurt a LOT more people than the one woman who died as the result of his DUI, so you need to step the FUCK BACK, asshole.

At least Ted's life had a fantastic second act. You're still a pathetic loser P.O.S.

For instance, this great liberal champion here and his fuck the Iraqi's they're savages credo(do a forum search)...


You guys do realize that was the exact same mindset used to justify enslaving fellow humans don't you...that they were savages, subhuman if you will...

Him? He calls himself a liberal.

[sabar]

Fuck your politics...you put your politics before you humanity, you are no longer human. And that's exactly what Teddy's champions are doing.

The sheep of the partisan parties don't know anything else. I'm sure you have noticed many times that someone will defend their partisan mate out of loyalty for nearly anything short of a killing spree. Good quote.

whottt is in good form here

[LnGrrrR]

The sheep of the partisan parties don't know anything else. I'm sure you have noticed many times that someone will defend their partisan mate out of loyalty for nearly anything short of a killing spree. Good quote.

whottt is in good form here

Whottt's form is anything BUT good here. He's just shouting random cuss words and insults. I think I was able to do that at the age of 6.

Additionally, half-staff has been extended to the 30th of August.

[LnGrrrR]

Our culture is going to get progressively worse, more violent, more destructive, as long as this trend to see who can outhate the other continues...I personally think it's all the psychmeds, but beyond all that, I am going to make sure liberal dehumanizers get a heavy dose of dehumanization to the best of my ability, everyting you guys bitch about it, it only points out how stupid and shortsighted you truly are.

Brilliant.

Our culture is going to get worse if we continue this policy of hate. Instead of rising above that hate, though, and trying to be reasonable, whottt's plan is to go twice as hard as the original haters, to "outhate" them, which he says will surely bring the destruction of our culture.

I'll start the slow clap... who's with me?

*clap.......clap.......clap*

[SouthernFried]

I have never been a fan of Kennedy's. I believe he has hurt this country, through his legislation, more than most politicians ever have. I generally don't wish anyone dead, but he wouldn't leave office until he was dead. He literally had to be carried out. If his dying was the only way to stop him...then I can't say I'm not glad he's gone. I am.

[LnGrrrR]

I have never been a fan of Kennedy's. I believe he has hurt this country, through his legislation, more than most politicians ever have. I generally don't wish anyone dead, but he wouldn't leave office until he was dead. He literally had to be carried out. If his dying was the only way to stop him...then I can't say I'm not glad he's gone. I am.

Are you against all the bills he sponsored? Or just some?

[hope4dopes]

Whottt's form is anything BUT good here. He's just shouting random cuss words and insults. I think I was able to do that at the age of 6.

Additionally, half-staff has been extended to the 30th of August.

Yes you are so far above the fray that dolts like whott wallow in,because you lift your pinkie at the proper angle while you legitamize tyrants and their reprssive acts.This is now the canard being manufactured by those who rule,through the media, that the people's righteous anger is"childish and barbaric and counterproductive". You can make vain attempts to window dress
kennedy but he was the personification of all that is wrong with the political class. He was a meglomaniac, who felt his birth entitled him to rule and whose bestial appetities knew no checks.

[clambake]

wow....meth. now i know.

[hope4dopes]

I will be flying my flag,BUT NOT AT HALF MAST, I invite everyone else to do the same.

[clambake]

what kind of flag, micca? do you have a mast......or are you making that up?

[ploto]

I give him credit for having the guts to vote against the War in Iraq.

[LnGrrrR]

Yes you are so far above the fray that dolts like whott wallow in,because you lift your pinkie at the proper angle while you legitamize tyrants and their reprssive acts.This is now the canard being manufactured by those who rule,through the media, that the people's righteous anger is"childish and barbaric and counterproductive". You can make vain attempts to window dress
kennedy but he was the personification of all that is wrong with the political class. He was a meglomaniac, who felt his birth entitled him to rule and whose bestial appetities knew no checks.

Yes, I consider myself above the fray because I do my best not to resort to childhood insults, or frothing at the mouth at those who disagree with me.

What the hell are you talking about 'tyrants' for? Do you think Kennedy was a 'tyrant'? Has that word been watered down so greatly?

Righteous anger is not always childish, barbaric and counterproductive. Whottt's pretty obviously is.

Your description of Kennedy is hilarious though. Megalomaniac? "Entitled to rule"? Where do you get this stuff from? Seinfeld?

[LnGrrrR]

I will be flying my flag,BUT NOT AT HALF MAST, I invite everyone else to do the same.

Way to take a stand Micca! You show that dead Kennedy! I'm sure he'll be shaking his fist at you from beyond the grave. :lol

[whottt]

Brilliant.

Our culture is going to get worse if we continue this policy of hate. Instead of rising above that hate, though, and trying to be reasonable, whottt's plan is to go twice as hard as the original haters, to "outhate" them, which he says will surely bring the destruction of our culture.

You seem to have me confused with someone who wants to be part of the solution...I have never made the claim.

Being able to correctly identify the problem doesn't mean I want to solve it. I can't solve it, and I realize that.

I'd have better luck attempting to make a rock intelligent than I would the collection of liberals on this forum. I'm not one for a lost cause and never have been.


I'm also not the one calling myself a liberal, while generalizing and dehumanizing everyone I don't agree with.


And let me tell you something, you guys will never be able to outhate me.




I'll start the slow clap... who's with me?

*clap.......clap.......clap*

The ironic thing is that the conservatives don't claim to champions of humanity, whereas liberals are supposed to be...the conservatives on this forum are much more humane and civil that the ignorant liberal mob on this forum is...

So keep being outraged by your own reflection...I have a pathological hatred of stupid people that mass together, as I feel they are the cause of every single conflict and act of inhumanity in the history of mankind, and the only thing I'm concerned about is that you guys might start acting in a fashion that no longer justifies my behavior towards you...I don't know what I'd do then. Luckily enough, I don't think it will ever be something I have to deal with. I don't expect my actions to make you change....that's not why I do it. And frankly you were pretty stupid for even concluding that. I just want to play with the herd of dumb animals.


It's the simple pleasures that make life worth living....

[whottt]

Yes, I consider myself above the fray because I do my best not to resort to childhood insults, or frothing at the mouth at those who disagree with me.

You're not the rapist, you''re the one who politely walks past and doesn't interfere in the affairs of those pesky Iranians...er rapists and rapees. Your hands are clean. Live and let rape and let htem work out it out for themselves...best not to get involved. Everyone knows this world has only one problem...and it's obviously Republicans and absolutely nothing nor anyone else.




Righteous anger is not always childish, barbaric and counterproductive. Whottt's pretty obviously is.


You just don't get really how incomparably stupid statements like that make you.


What you really means to say is that righteous liberal anger is not childish, barbaric and counterproductive.

And every time I see one of you guys make that statement, I know you are deserving of every bit of verbal abuse I can muster...completely washes my hands free of the guilt. And you have no idea how much I appreciate those sorts of comments.

[clambake]

wow.

[whottt]

Being able to correctly identify the problem doesn't mean I want to solve it. I can't solve it, and I realize that.

BTW, the solution is the massive depopulation of human species on this planet. Something pretty much everyone regardless of political affiliation, is dead set against in their various ways. Quite simply, there's just too many fucking people in this world and the root cause of every conflict in the history of mankind is too many people in the same space.


Or to put it another way....all the world's man made problems would immediately cease if everyone would just sit still for 5 minutes. And it's absolutely true.

If I really wanted to be part of the solution, at least on this forum, the first thing I'd do is stop posting in here. Would be futile though...

[clambake]

how many people do you add up to?

[whottt]

wow.

Heya clambake, good morning. I expect this will be another prodcutive 10-12 hour day for you on this forum full of insightful comments and searing wit.

[clambake]

Heya clambake, good morning. I expect this will be another prodcutive 10-12 hour day for you on this forum full of insightful comments and searing wit.

i leave it here so i don't miss one of your post.

people should pay close attention to you.

it's for posterity.

[whottt]

i leave it here so i don't miss one of your post.

people should pay close attention to you.

it's for posterity.

Just out of curiosity, why do you interact with me so much?


Think about it for a second...in all the years, how often have I initiated a dialogue with you, it's almost always you initiating it with me. I might have initiated it once or twice and I don't really think I've even done that but I'm willing to consider it, but the bulk of the dialogue has been initiated by you.

What do you get out of it clambake?


Protecting the grazing lands?

[hater]

dog barking behind a fence

[clambake]

really? you even sent me a PM. drug abuse makes one forget things.

still, it must bother you, or you wouldn't have brought it up.

why would you initiate dialogue with me by sending me a PM?

[whottt]

So I have sent you a PM before every post you have made to me?

[clambake]

uh oh. a little early to drift, don't you think?

[whottt]

uh oh. a little early to drift, don't you think?

So basically that one PM was the impetus for every single dialogue between us? Must have been one hell of a PM.

[whottt]

Anyway, thanks for the non-answer, it was about what I expected...Cow doesn't really understand what draws her to become one the herd either, it's just her instinct and because she is an animal instinct rules her. Whether the herd is going to the slaughterhouse, or not.

[clambake]

So basically that one PM was the impetus for every single dialogue between us? Must have been one hell of a PM.

can't you keep it together long enough to remember your post in this thread?

you said i always initiate conversation with you.

[whottt]

Actually...I asked you this:


Just out of curiosity, why do you interact with me so much?


That's exactly what I asked you.


I didn't ask you who initiated the first exchange...which seems to be the grazing field your instincts have fixated upon.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Just out of curiosity, why do you interact with me so much?


Think about it for a second...in all the years, how often have I initiated a dialogue with you, it's almost always you initiating it with me. I might have initiated it once or twice and I don't really think I've even done that but I'm willing to consider it, but the bulk of the dialogue has been initiated by you.

What do you get out of it clambake?


Protecting the grazing lands?

because your crazy funny!

[clambake]

which one of you is fixated on cows? have i met him before today?

[whottt]

dog barking behind a fence

Is hater upset?

[whottt]

which one of you is fixated on cows? have i met him before today?

Interesting thing about cows, they don't know why they do what they do, ever. They just do it. Even if they could talk they couldn't tell you why they do that they do. But we know why they do what they do, well, some of us do anyway.

[clambake]

which one of you is fixated on cows? have i met him before today?

[rascal]

Why insult the wicked witch like that?




Seriously, if people wouldn't try to pass this guy off as hero, I probably wouldn't despise him near as much as I do, well actually I probably still would if you want to be truthful about it. He's a far from a hero as it's possible to be. And the word hero is lesser for his association with it.

He's not a hero, he's a coward, a liar and a guy that had no business making decisions as a part of a government, he should have been serving in it's prisons.

Who is calling him a hero? He made many good decisions in government, that you don't agree with his party affiliation is the main cause of your hate. If he was a Republican I am sure you would not be writing this. You are a puppet of conservative talk radio. You are weak minded and easily influenced by talk radio.

[rascal]

http://naughtrelevant.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/fat-ted-kennedy.jpg

Sad sad day for libs...this pathetic mound of corpulence that let the woman he was cheating on his wife with die while spending an extended amount of time trapped in a sinking car due entirely to his own intoxicated ignorance, not only did not even try to save her, but acted first and foremost to save his own career and protect himself from the consequences of his actions...has died.

What a sad sad day, for all who admire him.


I'm just glad he was terrified of dying like his brothers if he seriously challenged for the Presidency...at least his cowardice produced something worthwhile in his lifetime.


I am sure all Democrats feel they are lesser that this fat lump of cowardly corrupt shit is no longer among their number...

Don't feel too bad guys, you've still got Manson, all thanks to your humanity.

I would hate to be you when you stand before your own judgement day.

[DarrinS]

Under KennedyCare, hospitals will save money by replacing artificial limbs with traffic cones.

http://naughtrelevant.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/fat-ted-kennedy.jpg

[Bender]

Here ya go, whottt... :toast

http://takimag.ehclients.com/images/avatars/uploads/avatar_99.jpg
Another One Bites The Dust (http://www.takimag.com/sniperstower/article/another_one_bites_the_dust/)
by Dylan Hales (http://www.takimag.com/blogs/dylanhales) on August 26, 2009




I never liked The Kennedys and never believed in Camelot, but Ted always seemed to be the worst of the bunch. A transparently drunk, fat and old, bozo with none of the charm of his STD-ridden older brother Jack, to me Teddy was always a symbol for everything that was wrong with liberal politics.
That a man whose entire life was built on a sense of entitlement would be the advocate for every senseless spending program under the sun shouldn’t really surprise everyone. That he became a punching bag for right wingers even less so.
But picking on Teddy for his shortcomings is like shooting fish in a barrel. More often than not conservative criticism of Kennedy was about picking an easy target and firing away in order to deflect attention from the Right’s own bizarre political fetishism. This got particularly bad in the Faux News era where the Senate’s “Lion” became the tool by which all other Democratic politicians were bludgeoned to smithereens. “More liberal than Ted Kennedy” became a meaningless stock talking point for Sean Hannity and friends with “more liberal” often being used as a euphemism for “opposes the needless mass murder of Arab children.”
I don’t take joy in Teddy’s death, but I don’t have to think twice about saying that the world is a better place with one less grimy politician. Still, may he rest in peace. The gasbags and GOP shills will have to settle for Nancy Pelosi from here on out.

[Bender]

Here's another one:

http://takimag.ehclients.com/images/avatars/uploads/avatar_69.jpg
Ted (http://www.takimag.com/sniperstower/article/ted/)
by Richard Spencer (http://www.takimag.com/blogs/RichardSpencer) on August 26, 2009



I don’t have anything nice to say about Ted Kennedy, a man who’ll be most remembered for his disgusting and infantile personal conduct and who did as much as any American politician to destroy the country his forefathers immigrated to with his various social programs and sponsorship of the 1965 Immigration Act. The only thing I kinda liked about “Teddy” was that he made feminists and other assorted Leftists frightfully nauseated when they were obliged to praise this “Liberal Lion” as their champion, while knowing in their guts that he ultimately thought all women were disposable sex dolls. He served other useful purposes as well. After 50 years of the media depicting the Kennedy Clan as an embodiment of aristocratic virtue and charm, the vulgar and dim-witted Teddy stood as a constant reminder to many of what the Establishment really is.
Steve Sailer (http://isteve.blogspot.com/2009/08/ted-kennedy-rip.html):

Sen. Kennedy sponsored both the 1965 immigration act and the 1990 act that created the absurd diversity immigration lottery. The irony is that Kennedy intended both laws to bring more Irishmen to America to vote for Kennedys. The two laws largely failed at that, but had remarkable unintended consequences.
And here’s Peter Brimelow (http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2006/04/12/1098/) back in 2006 (ht: Patrick Cleburne (http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2009/08/26/senator-edward-kennedy-a-disaster-for-his-country/)):

Very few Senators heavily involved in passing a major piece of social legislation are still in the Senate forty years later when the subject comes up again. And absolutely none has looked as spectacularly foolish about it as Senator Edward Kennedy. As floor manager of the 1965 Immigration Act Kennedy assured the country
“First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same… Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset…. Contrary to the charges in some quarters, [the bill] will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area, or the most populated and deprived nations of Africa and Asia….
“In the final analysis, the ethnic pattern of immigration under the proposed measure is not expected to change as sharply as the critics seem to think.”
Every one of Senator Kennedy’s assurances proved false—yet he has never apparently felt the need to explain, much less apologize, for his grotesque inaccuracy.

[LnGrrrR]

Very few Senators heavily involved in passing a major piece of social legislation are still in the Senate forty years later when the subject comes up again. And absolutely none has looked as spectacularly foolish about it as Senator Edward Kennedy. As floor manager of the 1965 Immigration Act Kennedy assured the country

“First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same… Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset…. Contrary to the charges in some quarters, [the bill] will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area, or the most populated and deprived nations of Africa and Asia….
“In the final analysis, the ethnic pattern of immigration under the proposed measure is not expected to change as sharply as the critics seem to think.”
Every one of Senator Kennedy’s assurances proved false—yet he has never apparently felt the need to explain, much less apologize, for his grotesque inaccuracy.


I could be wrong, but it could possibly be that Kennedy knew that the opposite would happen, but had to pander to those who wouldn't vote for the bill otherwise. It might also explain why he never felt the need to backtrack.

As well, feminists may not have liked him, but it seems like he supported gay-rights legislation, as he voted against DOMA.

[LnGrrrR]

Also...is that Sailer guy racist or something?

[whottt]

Who is calling him a hero? He made many good decisions in government, that you don't agree with his party affiliation is the main cause of your hate. If he was a Republican I am sure you would not be writing this. You are a puppet of conservative talk radio. You are weak minded and easily influenced by talk radio.

No, as I said earlier, I hated Kennedy when I was voting for Clinton, and Gore. I don't like him because he left a woman to die because he was a coward, and for the rest of his life never admitted his cowardice...and he never quit drinking either.

Un
Re
Deemed

Still the bloated coward he was on that night when that woman died.

He was not sorry for what he did, ever, only happy that he got away with it with no consequences, she was not important, her death was just an obstacle to be dodged.

His political career was not more important than this woman's life, and the fact that not only he, then(which is why she died) and now, and other lowlife dehumanizing scum like yourself, think it was...gives me ample reason to celebrate this fucking scumbag's death.

And I don't listen to talk radio or watch the news except during Presidential elections. My mind is completely free of all media mind control and my opinions are based entirely upon my own knowledge and research.

He never quit drinking. That tells you how sorry he was about it.

If he was a Republican I'd hate him just as much. It's the person I hate and am trashing in this thread...I haven't said jack shit about his fucking political views, only the politics of those defending him, because that is why they are defending him...read the thread again.

I've haven't read a political stance of Ted Kennedy's in years, his politcal views don't matter, only the fact that he's a scumbag and died every bit the drunken fucking cowardly scumbag he was that night.

For all I know Ted Kennedy was against the Iraq pullout...I honestly I don't know, and I honestly don't care. It makes no difference.

The only concern I've had with Mr. Kennedy, is why it was taking his fucking ass so long to fucking die.

He is nothing but a fat decadent above the people silver spoon fratboy politician, the absolute lowest element of American politics.

Every bit the silver spoon Bush was..and a coward to boot.

[whottt]

Here ya go, whottt... :toast

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Another One Bites The Dust (http://www.takimag.com/sniperstower/article/another_one_bites_the_dust/)
by Dylan Hales (http://www.takimag.com/blogs/dylanhales) on August 26, 2009




I never liked The Kennedys and never believed in Camelot, but Ted always seemed to be the worst of the bunch. A transparently drunk, fat and old, bozo with none of the charm of his STD-ridden older brother Jack, to me Teddy was always a symbol for everything that was wrong with liberal politics.
That a man whose entire life was built on a sense of entitlement would be the advocate for every senseless spending program under the sun shouldn’t really surprise everyone. That he became a punching bag for right wingers even less so.
But picking on Teddy for his shortcomings is like shooting fish in a barrel. More often than not conservative criticism of Kennedy was about picking an easy target and firing away in order to deflect attention from the Right’s own bizarre political fetishism. This got particularly bad in the Faux News era where the Senate’s “Lion” became the tool by which all other Democratic politicians were bludgeoned to smithereens. “More liberal than Ted Kennedy” became a meaningless stock talking point for Sean Hannity and friends with “more liberal” often being used as a euphemism for “opposes the needless mass murder of Arab children.”
I don’t take joy in Teddy’s death, but I don’t have to think twice about saying that the world is a better place with one less grimy politician. Still, may he rest in peace. The gasbags and GOP shills will have to settle for Nancy Pelosi from here on out.


Is that guy a lib? If so he's the first one I've seen in about 5 years that isn't a total party whore.

[Bender]

Is that guy a lib? If so he's the first one I've seen in about 5 years that isn't a total party whore.
he writes for Taki's Magazine, a conservative online mag...

Taki's Mag (http://www.takimag.com/)

[Wild Cobra]

In my opinion, he's a traitor:

Ted Kennedy and the KGB (http://www.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=30980)

[clambake]

In my opinion, he's a traitor:

Ted Kennedy and the KGB (http://www.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=30980)

what did he do? did he give weapons to the enemy?

[Wild Cobra]

what did he do? did he give weapons to the enemy?
Did you understand the article?

[clambake]

Did you understand the article?

i was more interested in the way you throw around the word "traitor".

[Wild Cobra]

i was more interested in the way you throw around the word "traitor".
No definition or traitor is different than the constitutional definition. No, he is not by law a traitor. Buy in my view of patriotism, he is.

[clambake]

No definition or traitor is different than the constitutional definition. No, he is not by law a traitor. Buy in my view of patriotism, he is.

why don't you just say you're selective on throwing that label?

it's already transparent.

[Wild Cobra]

why don't you just say you're selective on throwing that label?

it's already transparent.
Are you daft?

I did say "In My Opinion!"

[clambake]

Are you daft?

I did say "In My Opinion!"

you're right! i forgot to calculate the value of your opinion.

[whottt]

I would hate to be you when you stand before your own judgement day.

Whatever you say willing and complicit accessory to murder.

Like I said....the fact that you are outraged by comments on a message board and not the fact this disgusting slug of a human being was allowed to walk off scott free after killing a woman, proves exactly how hopelesslely fucked in the head you are.

Go drown yourself in a car for Ted Kennedy rascal....go share Mary Jo's fate...I mean hey, it's all in the name of meaningul legislation. And the greatness that is Ted Kennedy.


You sick, fucked in the head, political whore.

[Shastafarian]

I hear meth-heads stay in purgatory for a while before going to hell. There's a box of sudafed just outside their reach and they helplessly pine for it until they're sent downstairs.

[whottt]

I hear meth-heads stay in purgatory for a while before going to hell. There's a box of sudafed just outside their reach and they helplessly pine for it until they're sent downstairs.

Well, you can always hope. Me? I don't have to hope, I can just look and see what you are here and now...a true inhuman monster, no meth necessary.

[Shastafarian]

Well, you can always hope. Me? I don't have to hope, I can just look and see what you are here and now...a true inhuman monster, no meth necessary.

Awww come on big guy, you can do better than that.

[whottt]

Awww come on big guy, you can do better than that.

eh, you think running meth head smack at me bothers me and that I get some kind of temptation off seeing Sudafed...you really need to do better first.

Hint: Ted Kennedy, Hero, Meaningful Legislation.

[DarkReign]

This is Classic bound.

For the record, I never understood the reverence for recently deceased people. Mourning or sadness or whatever are for yourself, not for the deceased. Its a selfish emotion used by you to cope with your loss, not theirs.

When my dad died young, I cried once. I knew it was for me, for selfish reasons, I did it anyway. After that, done. Carried the casket, shoveled the dirt, bing bang boom, done.

If you believe there is judgment after this, then rest assured in that faith.

If you do not, well good ol' Ted got away with manslaughter and laughed his way through 40 years of public service. He got to fuck more fine women than you can name, had a President for a brother, had more than his share of sitting Presidents kiss his fat-ass and praise his "achievements" when it was politically expedient to do so and has the current President presiding over his funeral. He was rich, successful, ugly, twisted and completely devoid of anything that could be considered moral character.

But the best part is, for him anyway, he's still laughing his ass off. He suckered a nation for almost 50 years on the exclusivity of his name and his name alone (which only grew to its current heights on the backs of his two brothers being killed).

He rode coattails from beginning to end, somehow convincing other powerful people that his opinion and blessing actually were worth something more than they were.

I dont know whether to hate him or envy him for his pure, selfish pursuit of absolute power. Because I completely lack the faculties to give two shits about humanity or its individual members on a micro scale.

This guy should have the wrote the book on "How to Make Something from Nothing at the Expense of All Those Around You".

[LnGrrrR]

Eh, I disagree DR. I'm not a big fan of the guy, but he did seem to do some good things (brokering peace with Ireland, SCHIP, immigration bill). Of course, no one has any idea if he did it out of some sense of morality or merely to further his political career.