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Supergirl
09-10-2009, 12:31 PM
Is there already a Yahoo league created for Spurstalk? I'd like to join, if there is. If not, I am happy to create one if there's enough people who would join. Let me know if you'd be in.
DPG21920
09-10-2009, 01:25 PM
I don't think they have started up yet, not sure.
Edit: On snapizzle!!!!!!!!!! Registration has begun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My favorite time of year sons, co-sign that!
Muser
09-10-2009, 01:26 PM
I'd join.
DPG21920
09-10-2009, 01:27 PM
They play crazy ones on ST (dynasty leagues and such...). I don't think there is a normal Roto or H2H ST league that I know of.
if y'all are down for a yahoo H2H, I'm in. I've gotten 1st or 2nd in my leagues the past few years due mainly to a lack of decent competitors. Let's make this fun.
I. Hustle
09-10-2009, 02:28 PM
I am down for yahoo just not those $250 leagues
BWS-1994
09-10-2009, 02:44 PM
I'd like to join too.
Supergirl
09-10-2009, 03:22 PM
cool I will start one. it's gonna be H2H cause I prefer those, and there will be no fee.
DPG21920
09-10-2009, 03:24 PM
Does the winner get a Spur???????????????????
Bukefal
09-10-2009, 03:24 PM
Nice, im in
Cry Havoc
09-10-2009, 03:26 PM
I'll play! Yay for H2H!!!
Let me know what the league name is.
angelbelow
09-10-2009, 03:27 PM
In
Supergirl
09-10-2009, 03:32 PM
OK, I created a league: http://basketball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/nba/103404
the league name is SpursTalk2010, the password is allspurs
I'm open to adding stats or dropping stats depending on what people want - let me know. Here's our current settings:
http://basketball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/nba/103404/settings
dougp
09-10-2009, 03:42 PM
I'm registered, team name is Some Like It Malty.
kbrury
09-10-2009, 03:45 PM
Im in under the Clemens Buffaloes
DPG21920
09-10-2009, 04:19 PM
Nevermind...
If we can talk Kori into giving the winner a Spur, that would be cool.
DPG21920
09-10-2009, 04:27 PM
What about doing these settings:
Positions:
PG
SG
G
SF
PF
F
C
C
UTL
UTL
BNCH (5)
Stats (9 cats is plenty):
FG%
FT%
3PTM
POINTS
REBS
AST
STLS
BLKS
TO'S
I'm in too, PM me any details when they surface.
alamo50
09-10-2009, 04:38 PM
I can't seem to find this created league.
jmard5
09-10-2009, 04:47 PM
Same here:
There was a problem
* This league is not registered in this game. (Error #272)
DPG21920
09-10-2009, 04:55 PM
Try this:
League: 103404
Password: allspurs
DPG21920
09-10-2009, 04:58 PM
I am in. Supergirl and those in, can we talk about the settings and draft time?
DPG21920
09-10-2009, 05:09 PM
I can't seem to find this created league.
Same here:
There was a problem
* This league is not registered in this game. (Error #272)
Did that help?
alamo50
09-10-2009, 05:22 PM
Gotcha!
Supergirl
09-10-2009, 06:02 PM
I am def open to changing the settings. Personally, I would prefer to keep OREB and DREB, and TOs are another must keep, IMO. I am open to dropping some of the other categories if people want, other than the basics.
I set the draft date for the Sunday before the season starts, thinking that would give people maximum flexibility to adjust their pre-draft rankings due to injuries etc in the pre-season.
I chose live draft, but you can set your own team to draft automatically from your pre-draft rankings if you are not available at the time of the draft.
DPG21920
09-10-2009, 06:38 PM
I just don't think that different rebounding categories really add anything. Too many cats water things down imo.
Or at least get rid of AST/TO ratio and defensive rebounding. That would leave us with 10 cats (FG%, FT%, PTS, 3PTM, REB, OFF REB, STLS, BLKS, TO).
Also, that is a ton of positions. That would be 20 rounds of drafting. The standard setup is: PG, SG, G, SF, PF, F, C, C, UTL, UTL, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN
Then with regards to the draft, I usually agree, but I am bored so I would rather draft sooner and take my chances with injuries :lol. It would give us something to do!
I am open to pretty much anything, but the less complicated and watered down the better imo.
Thanks a lot for setting this up :toast
In under BigBird'sBallers (I have a big nose, hence the name; I've used it for a while).
Settings-wise, I really see no point in assist/turnover ratio, or the OREB and DREB thing. All three stats seem to muddle things. I'd just keep it to basics: FG, 3pt FG, pts, asts, rebs, stls, TO
But, whatever y'all prefer. I'd just assume keep it simple though.
DPG21920
09-10-2009, 06:46 PM
I agree Samr about keeping it simple, but FT% keeps the bigs from dominating too much and makes you pick and choose strategy without being too complicated. What do you think about the amount of positions and the draft?
Oh yeah, whoops, forgot about FT%.
Someone said before me, the standard setup for positions is PG, SG, G, SF, PF, F, C, C, util, util, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN. I have no complaints with that, though it depends how many teams you have in the league. In general, those stats work for a 12 team league; less teams and you add another util player. You want to still have decent players that are FA, but not too many, and certainly not too few.
Draft, I'd say do it at the start of pre-season. It's more fun to take risks. You draft some reaches to see if they pan out, you make some trades that make sense at the time. I took a reach on OJ Mayo in the draft, but I also grabbed Tyson Chandler.
DPG21920
09-10-2009, 06:54 PM
Ya, this will be a 12 team league, we already have 11. The positions need to be standard and shortened for more fun and ease of use. It already runs thin in the standard setting.
Most people wait for the draft because there are some injuries that happen, but like I said, I am antsy and would rather draft and start trading! :lol
Cry Havoc
09-10-2009, 07:12 PM
Ya, this will be a 12 team league, we already have 11. The positions need to be standard and shortened for more fun and ease of use. It already runs thin in the standard setting.
Most people wait for the draft because there are some injuries that happen, but like I said, I am antsy and would rather draft and start trading! :lol
12 teams is probably the perfect number for a PG, SG, G, SF, PF, F, C, C, Ut, Ut. A 12 team league is still pretty deep. You have to be able to read and interpret stats to get key contributions out of lesser-known players.
A league where it would only be 7 positions or so basically means the superstars are going to be the ones to determine a fantasy league (meaning drafting and injuries essentially guarantees the winner), whereas a league with more positions like above can be one by someone who has an injury or two but knows how to compensate with a deep team overall.
I joined! My team name is: I've Got 3 Balls :hat
DPG21920
09-10-2009, 07:26 PM
We should all vote on a draft date (earlier or closer to season), then find a day or night where everyone can be there (or most people).
We need 1 more person!
Cry Havoc
09-10-2009, 07:32 PM
Oct 25th works for me. Most Sundays will, actually. Why does everyone have 1st week byes?
Supergirl
09-10-2009, 07:41 PM
What do people think about expanding the league to 14 or 16 people?
I can omit A/TO, DREB, and I agree that 20 roster slots seems like too many. I was thinking 15 would be a good roster size, since that's the size of an NBA roster.
I. Hustle
09-10-2009, 07:42 PM
I am in as Hustlers
Supergirl
09-10-2009, 07:45 PM
changed the stat categories and the positions. What do people think?
Supergirl
09-10-2009, 07:48 PM
Oct 25th works for me. Most Sundays will, actually. Why does everyone have 1st week byes?
some weird glitch in the system when there were only 11 teams. it's fixed because now we're full at 12.
what do people think about opening it up to 14, 16, or more teams?
Supergirl
09-10-2009, 07:49 PM
I just don't think that different rebounding categories really add anything. Too many cats water things down imo.
Or at least get rid of AST/TO ratio and defensive rebounding. That would leave us with 10 cats (FG%, FT%, PTS, 3PTM, REB, OFF REB, STLS, BLKS, TO).
Also, that is a ton of positions. That would be 20 rounds of drafting. The standard setup is: PG, SG, G, SF, PF, F, C, C, UTL, UTL, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN
Then with regards to the draft, I usually agree, but I am bored so I would rather draft sooner and take my chances with injuries :lol. It would give us something to do!
I am open to pretty much anything, but the less complicated and watered down the better imo.
Thanks a lot for setting this up :toast
I personally don't like the two C set up cause the NBA is so weak on centers. you wind up with at least 1 really crappy C. I pared it down to PG, SG, PF, SF, C, and then 2 extra G slots, 2 extra F slots, and 3 UTIL and 3 bench slots, for a 15 man roster.
DPG21920
09-10-2009, 07:53 PM
I would switch 3PT% to 3PTM and maybe get rid of OREB, other than that :tu. But if you want to really keep OREB, than cool, but I would definitely change the 3PT's.
Positions I would take out the extra G, F and UTL and add a C.
So it would look like: PG, SG, G, SF, PF, F, C, C, UTL, UTL, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN
Having the extra G and F and UTL makes it too guard and forward heavy imo. 2 centers is pretty standard, same with 2 UTL.
I am ok with 12 teams, 14-16 seems like a lot. But I am cool with whatever the majority wants.
I personally don't like the two C set up cause the NBA is so weak on centers.
Keep in mind, many PF's have C eligibility so it opens things up for multi-way players.
A league where it would only be 7 positions or so basically means the superstars are going to be the ones to determine a fantasy league (meaning drafting and injuries essentially guarantees the winner), whereas a league with more positions like above can be one by someone who has an injury or two but knows how to compensate with a deep team overall.
Marc Gasol, Raymond Sessions, Chris Anderson and Jamal Crawford made my team last year. Then I traded Crawford right before he got benched (had NO clue this was coming, pure luck) for Bargnani right before he started pounding out the big numbers there at the end.
Oh, and Tyson Chandler can SUCK IT!!!
I would switch 3PT% to 3PTM
Yeah, that's what I meant. Go with that. +1
DPG21920
09-10-2009, 08:48 PM
In under BigBird'sBallers (I have a big nose, hence the name; I've used it for a while).
Settings-wise, I really see no point in assist/turnover ratio, or the OREB and DREB thing. All three stats seem to muddle things. I'd just keep it to basics: FG, 3pt FG, pts, asts, rebs, stls, TO
But, whatever y'all prefer. I'd just assume keep it simple though.
Looks like we are matched up week 1....It's on!
Cry Havoc
09-10-2009, 09:27 PM
some weird glitch in the system when there were only 11 teams. it's fixed because now we're full at 12.
what do people think about opening it up to 14, 16, or more teams?
14 teams is okay, but it starts getting REALLY thin near the end of the draft. I like 12, but I'll do 14 if everyone else wants.
16 is ridiculous.
DPG21920
09-10-2009, 09:30 PM
Cry Havoc, what do you think about the positions? I wrote on our leagues message board about wanting 12 teams only.
DPG21920
09-10-2009, 09:33 PM
Also, I hope everyone is pretty active with their teams. It would suck if people stopped managing their teams.
Cry Havoc
09-10-2009, 09:40 PM
Cry Havoc, what do you think about the positions? I wrote on our leagues message board about wanting 12 teams only.
I think the best might be
PG
SG
G
SF
PF
F
C
UT
UT
Optional: UT
Two centers is kind of ridiculous, as it means F/C gets 5 positions.
The extra utility can be more beneficial for guardplay.
Also, I hope everyone is pretty active with their teams. It would suck if people stopped managing their teams.
That's why I usually get 2-3 teams going in different leagues. Stay active in them as long as you can, but eventually at least one league dies. At that point just by staying active you're guaranteed one of the top few spots. Also, everyone that loses faith with their draft or their start keep in mind: as long as you STAY active, you'll be competitive. Some of the top teams at the beginning are the result of good drafts, and if their owners stop being active, they're going to sink to the bottom. Keep with it. The NBA season is a long one. Often times, it is a war of attrition.
Hopefully this one will stay competitive until the end.
Supergirl
09-10-2009, 10:06 PM
OK, so I'm listening: Why is 3PM better than 3P%?
OK, so I'm listening: Why is 3PM better than 3P%?
A guy could make 10 out of 20 threes, and be a leader in 3P%, but he wouldn't be nearly as valuable as a guy whos making 100 out of 250.
I vote for 3PM. Can't you also incorporate 3PA so that in effect, 3P% is still important?
Supergirl
09-10-2009, 10:18 PM
A guy could make 10 out of 20 threes, and be a leader in 3P%, but he wouldn't be nearly as valuable as a guy whos making 100 out of 250.
I vote for 3PM. Can't you also incorporate 3PA so that in effect, 3P% is still important?
Hmmm. But from a real game standpoint, I'd rather have the guy who hits a high % than I guy who hits a lot of 'em but bombs up a lot of misses too. See: Phoenix Suns circa several years ago.
But perhaps from a fantasy standpoint 3PM is more interesting. I'm not sure.
I'm such a Spurs fan, I wish there was a way to record defense in the stats and give guys credit for it.
Supergirl
09-10-2009, 10:23 PM
Who's Falanga/MD, anyway? I'm matched up against your Week 1...
DPG21920
09-10-2009, 10:35 PM
Think about it like this though SG:
In real basketball, would you want a team that shoots 40% on 3's and hits 12 a game or a team that shoots 50% and hits 2 per game. Like if a guy is a 100% FT shooter, but only shoots 10 per year bc he does not get to the line vs a guy who shoots 86% but gets there 6 times a game.
It is much more fluky and easy to pick up some guys who don't do anything but hit a few threes at a good clip than it is to plan for guys who have to make a good amount.
But I do think the positions should be changed. I like the two centers because there are naturally more front court positions in basketball (SF, PF, C vs. PG, SG) and the 2 UTL make up for it because you can use them to build your team around bigs or smalls.
RuffnReadyOzStyle
09-10-2009, 10:50 PM
If anyone is really serious about fantasy ball, there is a pretty decent team in DL I for sale. Contact Guru of Nothing, or LJ, I guess.
As for this league, I'm already in both DLs and 4 yahoo leagues, so I'll give it a pass.
If anyone would like to be in a Yahoo keeper league that I'm going to create soon, let me know. It'll be standard 9 cat, h-2-h, but KEEPER.
Supergirl
09-10-2009, 11:01 PM
Think about it like this though SG:
In real basketball, would you want a team that shoots 40% on 3's and hits 12 a game or a team that shoots 50% and hits 2 per game. Like if a guy is a 100% FT shooter, but only shoots 10 per year bc he does not get to the line vs a guy who shoots 86% but gets there 6 times a game.
It is much more fluky and easy to pick up some guys who don't do anything but hit a few threes at a good clip than it is to plan for guys who have to make a good amount.
But I do think the positions should be changed. I like the two centers because there are naturally more front court positions in basketball (SF, PF, C vs. PG, SG) and the 2 UTL make up for it because you can use them to build your team around bigs or smalls.
ok, I changed it.
as for having another C, I'm still not sold. We currently have 4 G positions and 5 F/C positions. I think adding another C is crazy, when there aren't that many good Cs to go around, but if you pick up extra Cs you can put them in a UTIL spot.
ok, I changed it.
as for having another C, I'm still not sold. We currently have 4 G positions and 5 F/C positions. I think adding another C is crazy, when there aren't that many good Cs to go around, but if you pick up extra Cs you can put them in a UTIL spot.
If you want, you can also include 3PA. This way, a small amount of points are deducted for each 3-pt attempt (while obviously more are added for a Made attempt).
This way, 3-pt efficiency is still important, and guys who are chuckers will still be rewarded for all their made threes, but will also be accounted for on their shots consumed. That always seemed like the best way to balance quantity vs. quality.
DPG21920
09-10-2009, 11:43 PM
ok, I changed it.
as for having another C, I'm still not sold. We currently have 4 G positions and 5 F/C positions. I think adding another C is crazy, when there aren't that many good Cs to go around, but if you pick up extra Cs you can put them in a UTIL spot.
I think the cats are great now :tu. 10 cats is about the max you should have and these are all good cats.
I think the best might be
PG
SG
G
SF
PF
F
C
UT
UT
Optional: UT
Two centers is kind of ridiculous, as it means F/C gets 5 positions.
The extra utility can be more beneficial for guardplay.
I agree with Cry Havoc. If you are not going to do PG, SG, G, SF, PF, F, C, C, UTL, UTL, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN
Why not do: PG, SG, G, SF, PF, F, C, UTL, UTL, ?UTL, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN? The extra guard and forward spot seem so unnecessary and having 5 bench players is pretty standard and makes for nice depth so you don't have to constantly wavier players. Gives the teams nice depth without going overboard. Having the extra guard and forward is too many starters.
There are just as many quality centers as there are guards. There are easily 25 solid centers in fantasy because most of the PF's can play C as well in fantasy.
RuffnReadyOzStyle
09-11-2009, 12:04 AM
BTW, you may as well not have positions if you are going to have 3 utility spots. Yahoo is far too easy on positions and gives most players 2, and even 3.
Personally, I prefer 2 of each position (ie. PG, PG, SG, SG, etc.) and no utilities or swing players, with 3-5 bench. That makes positions a little more important, especially if you only go with a 3-man bench.
DPG21920
09-11-2009, 12:17 AM
BTW, you may as well not have positions if you are going to have 3 utility spots. Yahoo is far too easy on positions and gives most players 2, and even 3.
Personally, I prefer 2 of each position (ie. PG, PG, SG, SG, etc.) and no utilities or swing players, with 3-5 bench. That makes positions a little more important, especially if you only go with a 3-man bench.
That is why I prefer 2 C's and only 2 UTL + 5 bench.
With PG, SG, G - You can have either two PG's or two SG's or combo guards.
With SF, PF, F - You can have either two SF's, or two PF's or combo forwards
With 2 C's - There is not extra "C" spot like the "G" or "F" spots, so it makes sense and takes away UTL players and makes it more structured.
There are plenty of quality C's, certainly enough for two spots imo and the 2 UTL can be used for strategic reasons (build around guards or bigs). Then you have 5 bench spots so the draft matters in the later rounds and you have depth.
RuffnReadyOzStyle
09-11-2009, 12:55 AM
We pretty much agree on that then, although I'd take out the 2 utility spots. That way you are essentially playing 2 starting 5s.
What would be even better is if Yahoo would calm the freak down with its allocation of extra positions to players! Positions really mean very little in Yahoo leagues because there are so many players who get extra eligibility. Yahoo should do it like CBS Sportsline and only give a player a second position if he plays a certain number of games listed there during the season.
BTW, hi Kori! Long time no see. How's things? :)
Supergirl
09-11-2009, 07:48 AM
OK, I change the stat categories again - more bench and 1 less UTIL, only 1 extra G and 1 extra F spot. 14 spots total.
I also opened it up to 14, since I have gotten 2 requests to join since we filled up. However, I agree with people here that 14 is about as many as I want to go to. So verbose and slick, join quick if you want your spots.
If people are concerned about things getting too thin, I'd be inclined to drop a bench or UTIL spot and only have a 12 man roster.
jmard5
09-11-2009, 09:29 AM
I'm in for the 14th and final spot.
Bukefal
09-11-2009, 10:27 AM
Who's Falanga/MD, anyway? I'm matched up against your Week 1...
That would be me :king Im new to this thing, so don't know if im any good, but im getting it more and more. In the pre-draft player rankings, does it matter how many players you add? And is it smart to add 2 players of each position? I mean, each position, twice.
Cry Havoc
09-11-2009, 10:37 AM
That would be me :king Im new to this thing, so don't know if im any good, but im getting it more and more. In the pre-draft player rankings, does it matter how many players you add? And is it smart to add 2 players of each position? I mean, each position, twice.
Don't worry about the pre-draft rankings. You should just attend the live draft for the date set. That way you have full control over who you're selecting for your team.
Supergirl
09-11-2009, 10:38 AM
That would be me :king Im new to this thing, so don't know if im any good, but im getting it more and more. In the pre-draft player rankings, does it matter how many players you add? And is it smart to add 2 players of each position? I mean, each position, twice.
well, welcome. the most important thing I have to tell myself is that fantasy basketball is *NOT* like real basketball. the kind of Spurs basketball most of us love centers around defense, but the best defensive players (eg. Bowen) usually make lousy fantasy players because they don't put up good stats. so it's a different animal.
the pre-draft rankings are so you can keep track of players you most want. if you aren't around for the draft, it will draw your highest ranked player remaining in the draft. if you are around, you can pull someone else instead, even if they're not your highest remaining (which might be important if you've already drafted multiple people at one position). but you're gonna need multiple people at each position in the game, and some positions are thinner in quality than others.
keep in mind that even if you get a low pick the first round, that just means you get a higher pick the second round, and back and forth.
Bukefal
09-11-2009, 10:39 AM
Don't worry about the pre-draft rankings. You should just attend the live draft for the date set. That way you have full control over who you're selecting for your team.
Ok, I see, but what kind of players is good to get, of every position at least two players?
DPG21920
09-11-2009, 10:39 AM
Thanks a lot supergirl! Things look good now. It is going to be very tough with 14 players.
Bukefal: You can add as many as you want to the pre-draft. It is not so much about adding players by position, as it is ranking the players you want from best to worst. Those players only really matter if you are not going to be able to attend the draft.
If you put a player in your pre-draft ranker, and you are unable to attend the draft or your computer messes up during the draft, it will automatically draft the next available player in your system. It is important to rank quite a few in order of best to worst. Yahoo! ranks players in their system automatically, but you might not agree with it, so do your own.
If you have more questions, just ask!
Bukefal
09-11-2009, 10:40 AM
well, welcome. the most important thing I have to tell myself is that fantasy basketball is *NOT* like real basketball. the kind of Spurs basketball most of us love centers around defense, but the best defensive players (eg. Bowen) usually make lousy fantasy players because they don't put up good stats. so it's a different animal.
the pre-draft rankings are so you can keep track of players you most want. if you aren't around for the draft, it will draw your highest ranked player remaining in the draft. if you are around, you can pull someone else instead, even if they're not your highest remaining (which might be important if you've already drafted multiple people at one position). but you're gonna need multiple people at each position in the game, and some positions are thinner in quality than others.
keep in mind that even if you get a low pick the first round, that just means you get a higher pick the second round, and back and forth.
Ok, thanks for explaining! :toast
Bukefal
09-11-2009, 10:41 AM
Thanks a lot supergirl! Things look good now. It is going to be very tough with 14 players.
Bukefal: You can add as many as you want to the pre-draft. It is not so much about adding players by position, as it is ranking the players you want from best to worst. Those players only really matter if you are not going to be able to attend the draft.
If you put a player in your pre-draft ranker, and you are unable to attend the draft or your computer messes up during the draft, it will automatically draft the next available player in your system. It is important to rank quite a few in order of best to worst. Yahoo! ranks players in their system automatically, but you might not agree with it, so do your own.
If you have more questions, just ask!
Thanks mate! Im looking forward to it. :king
DPG21920
09-11-2009, 10:44 AM
Also, with regards to positions:
Our league has the following positions - PG, SG, G, SF, PF, F, C, UTL, UTL, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN
What that means is every single day Monday - Sunday you will have a max of 9 guys starting (PG, SG, G, SF, PF, F, C, UTL, UTL) and 5 bench players. All players in the draft have "eligibility". They will have a position next to their name, and that tells you what position they can play.
So when you draft, you want to make sure you get enough for each position. It is about balance, but also, some teams draft more bigs than guards or vice-versa.
"G" - means anyone that has a "PG" or "SG" next to their name can play in that spot.
"F" - means anyone that has a "SF" or "PF" next to their name can play in that spot.
"UTL" - anyone is eligible to play in that spot.
You set your lineup every day, so sometimes guys will not be playing and sometimes you will not have a full lineup bc your team will not have enough players playing on that day.
You want to have some kind of balance with depth so that you can have plenty of options on who to "start" on any particular day.
The only players that earn you points on a particular day are your "starters". Your bench is not like a real bench. Once the games start for the day, you cannot move your players from your bench to your starting line up. The rosters "lock" for the day once as each game starts.
You want to make sure in 99% of the time you have the most guys playing that can. Sometimes you have your whole team playing and you have to decide who you will bench for the entire day.
You can move guys on a daily basis however, depending on who actually has games that day on your team.
Bukefal
09-11-2009, 10:55 AM
Ok, so you have to have enough for each position, but so long it doesnt cross the max of 14 right? So its good to have for each position two different players, or no? Or I can use a UTL for every position.
DPG21920
09-11-2009, 11:11 AM
Yes, Yahoo! won't even allow you to carry more than 14 players on your roster. When we draft, we will have 14 rounds, so everyone will start with 14 players. Now, you do not have to keep 14 players on your roster.
If you wanted to only keep 12 after the draft you could, but most everyone keeps 14. You can always "drop" someone you don't like and "pick-up" someone to replace him off of "waivers".
It is good to at least have two players for every position. Some players can play multiple positions though, so they help (Example: Monta Ellis with have a "PG" and "SG" by his name so he can play in the "PG", "SG", "G" or "UTL" spot).
There are only 2 "UTL" roster spots. No player has "UTL" by his name, but every player can be put into the "UTL" roster spot. So you cannot use "UTL" for every player. Only 2 players max per day can be used as UTL.
For example: Say you draft 14 PG's (PG1 - PG14). Say, 4 of those PG's you draft also have SG eligibility. On Monday, they all have a game (which you can see on Yahoo! by their names). You have to put your team in for the day and the positions are as follows:
PG: You can put a PG from your team here (PG1)
SG: You can put ONLY a PG from your team that can also play SG here (PG2 with SG eligibility)
G: You can put any guard here (either a PG or SG) (PG3)
SF: You cannot put anyone in here
PF: You cannot put anyone in here
F: You cannot put anyone in here
C: You cannot put anyone in here
UTL: You can put anyone of your PG's in here (PG4)
UTL: You can put anyone of your PG's in here (PG5)
BN: (PG6)
BN: (PG7)
BN: (PG8)
BN: (PG9)
BN: (PG10)
BN: (PG11)
BN: (PG12)
BN: (PG13)
BN: (PG14)
All of those players would not have a spot to play because of their "eligibility", so a bench spot would be created for them. They would be wasted because their scoring would not count at all.
Don't be confused about the extra "bench spots". When you cannot play a player because of eligibility or because they don't have a game that day, an "extra bench spot" is created to show they are not playing. This does not change the fact you can only have 14 players max on your team at one time. It is just to show you they are not counting them that day.
DPG21920
09-11-2009, 11:20 AM
So that is why nobody drafts all of one position. It would be a waste. You want to at least draft 1 of every position and preferably have depth at most positions.
Now, there are 9 starting positions and only 14 spots, but remember some players can play 2 or 3 positions.
Hopefully I am not confusing you :lol Sounds more difficult than it is. It is really very simple once you get going.
Bukefal
09-11-2009, 11:58 AM
So that is why nobody drafts all of one position. It would be a waste. You want to at least draft 1 of every position and preferably have depth at most positions.
Now, there are 9 starting positions and only 14 spots, but remember some players can play 2 or 3 positions.
Hopefully I am not confusing you :lol Sounds more difficult than it is. It is really very simple once you get going.
I see, no your not confusing me, im getting it!! Thank you very much for your good explanations. I get it and ill probably get used to it when playing. I cant wait for it to begin :)
:toast
Cry Havoc
09-11-2009, 12:01 PM
Good explanation DPG.
DPG21920
09-11-2009, 12:07 PM
I see, no your not confusing me, im getting it!! Thank you very much for your good explanations. I get it and ill probably get used to it when playing. I cant wait for it to begin :)
:toast
Good! If you want, I will meet you in the chat room and you can ask me some more questions as you have the league page for Yahoo! open in your browser. I can show you examples of players "eligibility" and such...
I cannot wait either, that is why I want to draft soon. It will give us time to trade and give us something to talk about for a while to pass the time!
Also as a general bit of strategy: a lot of times, you have several players (bigs and smalls) that are still playing that night but you have better options to fill your spots. This is where the UTIL comes in. You check your standing on h2h and see what you're down. Your stat stars, CP3, Kobe, Lebron, Melo, Wade, Duncan, Camby, Howard, are going to determine where the meat of your stats come from. But, a lot of these players have a crucial flaw in at least one stat category which is going to be the one you're lacking in that series. You make up for this with a UTIL player that specializes in that flawed area.
Example: Last year I was very guard-heavy. Kobe was my main guy. So I'd always make sure to play Andersen or Tyrus Thomas even at UTIL whenever possible -- and even at the expense of other gains -- for the sake of getting some much-needed blocks.
Shane Battier is a great UTIL for fg%. Roger Mason for a 3ptm or two.
So, think stats, not "who would I want on my team." Also, think strategy. Each team's a puzzle, and not every player fits. I've seen some great FA left on the board simply be cause no one found a use (points are easy to come by, devaluing guys like parker as a result). I've traded and had traded to me some very good players (see: Pau Gasol) because I needed stats in other areas.
Just general FYI.
Supergirl
09-13-2009, 12:49 PM
FYI: I moved the draft date up a week, so there will be a week to make any trades before the season starts.
Bukefal
10-25-2009, 11:29 AM
Almost there, and the glory begins :)
Cry Havoc
10-25-2009, 11:33 AM
I'm digging my team.
Bukefal
12-12-2009, 05:35 AM
How's it going everybody? :toast
Bukefal
09-19-2010, 01:20 PM
Is there going to be a league again this year?
DPG21920
09-19-2010, 01:49 PM
Is there going to be a league again this year?
You can join the 12 team one in the NBA forum....
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162291&page=4
You would be our 12th
Bukefal
09-19-2010, 02:13 PM
You can join the 12 team one in the NBA forum....
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162291&page=4
You would be our 12th
thanks
I'd like to join :)
I posted in that thread too. :toast
chazley
09-19-2010, 04:00 PM
I'll join one if there's a Spurstalk league for Spurs fans, or people who are regulars in the Spurs forum.
hsxvvd
09-20-2010, 01:21 AM
A reminder for all those in the Southern Hemisphere... The Bruce Bowen Memorial Battle is going again in 2010/11
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=135282&page=13
Brazil
09-20-2010, 08:01 AM
A reminder for all those in the Southern Hemisphere... The Bruce Bowen Memorial Battle is going again in 2010/11
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=135282&page=13
I sent a PM to Ruff to confirm, let's if he confirms.
For the rest it would be nice if the last year members could confirm or not if they want to be part of it again.
Duncanoypi
09-20-2010, 11:19 PM
any other league open as of now?
I really want to join and play with other ST'ers!
Rummpd
09-21-2010, 03:47 PM
Count in the doc if room left send me a private message.
AusSpursFan
09-22-2010, 03:18 AM
G'day Gents,
Just started a new league on yahoo sports if anyone wants in:
Name: Dynasty21 (ID# is 34324)
Password: spurs
Hope to see you there
Venti Quattro
09-22-2010, 09:03 AM
We still have two openings on a 16-team H2H league (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162291) down in the NBA forum. Hit me up with a PM if you're interested in joining. We'll decide on matters pretty fast (draft, rules, scoring) once the GM roster is complete.
spurs_philippines
09-23-2010, 03:17 AM
count me in
cnyc3
09-23-2010, 03:33 AM
In too.. i prefer 12 team leagues
Supergirl
09-23-2010, 03:54 PM
http://basketball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/nba/33654
Posted this a few days ago. There's still about 6 spots open.
League name is SpursTalk2011
Password is gospursgo
AusSpursFan
09-26-2010, 04:04 AM
G'day Gents,
Just started a new league on yahoo sports if anyone wants in:
Name: Dynasty21 (ID# is 34324)
Password: spurs
Hope to see you there
we need a few more with the draft next weekend, get on board
Supergirl
09-26-2010, 09:24 AM
We're up to 11 now. Need an even number as this is a H2H league.
Can take either 1 more or two more.
Kori Ellis, why have you not joined yet? Cucking Funt, where are you?
Cry Havoc
09-26-2010, 09:43 AM
http://basketball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/nba/33654
Posted this a few days ago. There's still about 6 spots open.
League name is SpursTalk2011
Password is gospursgo
I'll join, but I need the league ID ###, not the name.
Cry Havoc
09-26-2010, 10:25 AM
Well, I found it with the last 5 digits. I'm in! We have even teams.
AusSpursFan
09-30-2010, 02:57 AM
G'day Gents,
Just started a new league on yahoo sports if anyone wants in:
Name: Dynasty21 (ID# is 34324)
Password: spurs
Hope to see you there
I have 8 and need to fill 4 more spots with the draft being less than 3 days away
Supergirl
09-30-2010, 06:22 AM
We were full, now we're not. One more spot left again:
http://basketball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/nba/33654
SpursTalk2011
password gospursgo
Chieflion
09-30-2010, 06:33 AM
We were full, now we're not. One more spot left again:
http://basketball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/nba/33654
SpursTalk2011
password gospursgo
I am sorry I dropped out. I couldn't handle the timing of the draft. For the convenience of everyone, it is best not to change the draft timing just for me.
alamo50
09-30-2010, 07:24 AM
We were full, now we're not. One more spot left again:
http://basketball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/nba/33654
SpursTalk2011
password gospursgo
Great job getting on it Supergirl.
That's the way aha, aha I like it, aha, aha!
:downspin:
Supergirl
09-30-2010, 12:39 PM
I am sorry I dropped out. I couldn't handle the timing of the draft. For the convenience of everyone, it is best not to change the draft timing just for me.
Well, even though it's a live draft you don't have to be there, just pre-rank your players in advance. It looks like we might move it to Sunday morning for a couple other people, so maybe that will be better. But even if it's not, you don't have to drop out just because of that. Feel free to re-join while your spot is still there.
Venti Quattro
10-23-2010, 08:43 AM
We need three more people in a 16-league team. We draft later in the afternoon.
We're in yahoo and our league ID is 37785. Password is LOLfantasy.
Anyone who can make it, please join. Thx sons
Nathan89
10-23-2010, 11:20 AM
We need three more people in a 16-league team. We draft later in the afternoon.
We're in yahoo and our league ID is 37785. Password is LOLfantasy.
Anyone who can make it, please join. Thx sons
That is a lot of teams but I still joined.
Joe Schmoogins
10-23-2010, 12:16 PM
I just joined, but not sure if I can make it to the draft. Either way I'll be an active owner.
Nathan89
10-23-2010, 01:00 PM
Whoever is running this league need to cut joe schmoogins team if we can't get another.
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