UFC 103: Franklin vs. Belfort

[dbreiden83080]

Not a very exciting card at all, but we'll stick make picks. I Won't be ordering this one for sure..


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/10/UFC103Poster.jpg




Main card

Catchweight (195 lb) bout: Rich Franklin vs. Vitor Belfort
Heavyweight bout: Mirko Filipović vs. Junior dos Santos
Welterweight bout: Martin Kampmann vs. Paul Daley
Welterweight bout: Josh Koscheck vs. Frank Trigg
Lightweight bout: Tyson Griffin vs. Hermes Franca

Preliminary card

Lightweight bout: Efrain Escudero vs. Cole Miller
Middleweight bout: Drew McFedries vs. Tomasz Drwal
Lightweight bout: Jim Miller vs. Steve Lopez
Lightweight bout: Rafaello Oliveira vs. Nik Lentz
Welterweight bout: Rick Story vs. Brian Foster
Light Heavyweight bout: Eliot Marshall vs. Jason Brilz
Light Heavyweight bout: Vladimir Matyushenko vs. Igor Pokrajac
Lightweight bout: Rob Emerson vs. Rafael dos Anjos

[angelbelow]

Oh yea.. forgot swick was out. it'll be funny to watch trigg fight again.

[Evan]

meh...I'm only going if I land some awesome tickets cheap.

[BlackSwordsMan]

the only fight I care about is kampmann everyone can suck shit

[BlackSwordsMan]

embarrassing dana trying to compete against mayweather with this card

[dbreiden83080]

embarrassing dana trying to compete against mayweather with this card

PPV buys might still be close..

[djohn14]

I actually love this card.

[djohn14]

Catchweight (195 lb) bout: Rich Franklin vs. Vitor Belfort
Heavyweight bout: Mirko Filipović vs. Junior dos Santos
Welterweight bout: Martin Kampmann vs. Paul Daley
Welterweight bout: Josh Koscheck vs. Frank Trigg
Lightweight bout: Tyson Griffin vs. Hermes Franca

[dbreiden83080]

Catchweight (195 lb) bout: Rich Franklin vs. Vitor Belfort
Heavyweight bout: Mirko Filipović vs. Junior dos Santos
Welterweight bout: Martin Kampmann vs. Paul Daley
Welterweight bout: Josh Koscheck vs. Frank Trigg
Lightweight bout: Tyson Griffin vs. Hermes Franca

No idea who wins Vitor or Rich, i may go with Vitor as well, if it's just a stand-up battle, he has the goods to KO Rich..

[dallaskd]

my 5 (made some changes)..

Catchweight (195 lb) bout: Rich Franklin vs. Vitor Belfort
Heavyweight bout: Mirko Filipović vs. Junior dos Santos
Welterweight bout: Martin Kampmann vs. Paul Daley
Lightweight bout: Tyson Griffin vs. Hermes Franca
Light Heavyweight bout: Vladimir Matyushenko vs. Igor Pokrajac

[polandprzem]

main card

Catchweight (195 lb) bout: Rich Franklin vs. Vitor Belfort
Heavyweight bout: Mirko Filipović vs. Junior dos Santos
Welterweight bout: Martin Kampmann vs. Paul Daley
Welterweight bout: Josh Koscheck vs. Frank Trigg
Lightweight bout: Tyson Griffin vs. Hermes Franca

Preliminary card

Middleweight bout: Drew McFedries vs. Tomasz Drwal

[Evan]

embarrassing dana trying to compete against mayweather with this card

I guarantee he had planned to have Fedor here.

Besides...it will be interesting to see what a crap UFC can do against boxing.

[LEONARD]

Josh Koscheck vs. Frank Trigg
Tyson Griffinvs. Hermes Franca
Jim Miller vs. Steve Lopez
Martin Kampmann vs. Paul Daley
Vladimir Matyushenko vs Igor Pokrajac

[dbreiden83080]

Twinkle Toes Trigg gonna get his ass kicked..

[ATRAIN]

Rich Franklin vs. Vitor Belfort
Mirko Filipović vs. Junior dos Santos
Martin Kampmann vs. Paul Daley
Josh Koscheck vs. Frank Trigg
Tyson Griffin vs. Hermes Franca

[Evan]

suck card....fucking hell....so disappointing...

[dbreiden83080]

suck card....fucking hell....so disappointing...

I thought you loved Mirko, you don't even like that fight..

[Evan]

no thats a great match up...just commenting on over all card.

[dbreiden83080]

no thats a great match up...just commenting on over all card.

I find Vitor/Rich interesting, just not 45 bucks interesting..

[LEONARD]

I actually like the main card from top to bottom, and Jim Miller and Cole Miller (wish Jim had a better opponent).

But it's still lacking a big main event. This should be a Spike card IMO.

[Soul_Patch]

I actually like the main card from top to bottom, and Jim Miller and Cole Miller (wish Jim had a better opponent).

But it's still lacking a big main event. This should be a Spike card IMO.

Agree. I am actually looking forward to the spike fights this week, vs this card.

[LEONARD]

Countdown to 103 airs at 6:00 tonight...not sure why it's so early?

[Evan]

Countdown to 103 airs at 6:00 tonight...not sure why it's so early?

spurring momentum on interest through the weekend maybe?

[dallaskd]

Do you guys think they will show the fight outside the arena at victory park like they do the mavs games?

[Evan]

Do you guys think they will show the fight outside the arena at victory park like they do the mavs games?

Not a chance but thats a damn good idea.

[desflood]

Main card

Catchweight (195 lb) bout: Rich Franklin vs. Vitor Belfort
Heavyweight bout: Mirko Filipović vs. Junior dos Santos
Welterweight bout: Martin Kampmann vs. Paul Daley
Welterweight bout: Josh Koscheck vs. Frank Trigg
Lightweight bout: Tyson Griffin vs. Hermes Franca

Preliminary card

Lightweight bout: Efrain Escudero vs. Cole Miller
Middleweight bout: Drew McFedries vs. Tomasz Drwal
Lightweight bout: Jim Miller vs. Steve Lopez
Lightweight bout: Rafaello Oliveira vs. Nik Lentz
Welterweight bout: Rick Story vs. Brian Foster
Light Heavyweight bout: Eliot Marshall vs. Jason Brilz
Light Heavyweight bout: Vladimir Matyushenko vs. Igor Pokrajac
Lightweight bout: Rob Emerson vs. Rafael dos Anjos

[oligarchy]

Martin Kampmann vs. Paul Daley
Josh Koscheck vs. Frank Trigg
Tyson Griffin vs. Hermes Franca
Jim Miller vs. Steve Lopez
Vladimir Matyushenko vs. Igor Pokrajac

[dbreiden83080]

Main card

Catchweight (195 lb) bout: Rich Franklin vs. Vitor Belfort
Heavyweight bout: Mirko Filipović vs. Junior dos Santos
Welterweight bout: Martin Kampmann vs. Paul Daley
Welterweight bout: Josh Koscheck vs. Frank Trigg
Lightweight bout: Tyson Griffin vs. Hermes Franca


Some Real tough one's to pick here

I'll take Vitor over Rich as a chance here only because it is likely to stay up standing the whole way. Rich was starting to get in trouble 3rd RD of the Wandy fight, that late takedown maybe saved him from a KO. Vitor with the fast hands and power edge, I think Vitor can catch him but a Rich decision is just as likely..

Take Mirko over Dos Santos, mainly because of experience, although it is another pick em fight..

Koscheck comes in with a decent game-plan and he'll dominate Trigg. He's stronger, more explosive, way more athletic. He's lost 2 of the last 3, Must win fight for Kos..

[LEONARD]

Dana White on Dallas radio at 2:15...

www.theticket.com

[Evan]

Dana did a good job selling MMA^^^^^^^^^^^

Main Card Bouts:
Rich Franklin 195 vs. Vitor Belfort 196.25*
Junior Dos Santos 236 vs. Mirko Filipovic 226
Martin Kampmann 169.5 vs. Paul Daley 170
Josh Koscheck 170 vs. Frank Trigg 170
Tyson Griffin 155.5 vs. Hermes Franca 159**

On Spike:
Efrain Escudero 157* vs. Cole Miller 155
Drew Mcfedries 185.25 vs. Tomasz Drwal 185

Preliminary Bouts:
Jim Miller 154.5 vs. Steve Lopez 154.5
Rafaello Oliveira 155.25 vs. Nik Lentz 155
Rick Story 170 vs. Brian Foster 170.75
Jason Brilz 205.25 vs. Eliot Marshall 204.75
Vladimir Matyushenko 205 vs. Igor Pokrajac 203
Rafael Dos Anjos 155.5 vs. Rob Emerson 155.5

[oligarchy]

Dana did a good job selling MMA^^^^^^^^^^^

Main Card Bouts:
Rich Franklin 195 vs. Vitor Belfort 196.25*
Junior Dos Santos 236 vs. Mirko Filipovic 226
Martin Kampmann 169.5 vs. Paul Daley 170
Josh Koscheck 170 vs. Frank Trigg 170
Tyson Griffin 155.5 vs. Hermes Franca 159**

On Spike:
Efrain Escudero 157* vs. Cole Miller 155
Drew Mcfedries 185.25 vs. Tomasz Drwal 185

Preliminary Bouts:
Jim Miller 154.5 vs. Steve Lopez 154.5
Rafaello Oliveira 155.25 vs. Nik Lentz 155
Rick Story 170 vs. Brian Foster 170.75
Jason Brilz 205.25 vs. Eliot Marshall 204.75
Vladimir Matyushenko 205 vs. Igor Pokrajac 203
Rafael Dos Anjos 155.5 vs. Rob Emerson 155.5

Update: Belfort made 196 and Escudero made 156. Fucking Franca.

[Evan]

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/165321/Franklin.jpg

[dallaskd]

so is franca-griffin off?

[Evan]

catch weight

[Evan]

http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/091809ufc/1059.jpg

[dallaskd]

wow :lol

[BlackSwordsMan]

belfort via blanka ball

[djohn14]

Ha, Hermes blew that...Ive always liked him tho

[dallaskd]

belfort via blanka ball

Franklin via knee to the forehead

[Evan]

Franklin via knee to the forehead

:lol

[cornbread]

Cropcop
Kampmann
Koscheck
Griffin
Matyushenko

[dallaskd]

wow the rick story fight was awesome. he almost got knocked out in the first round and then got a sick submission. :tu

[dallaskd]

Franca got his ass kicked.

[dallaskd]

wtf kampmann wasnt out..

[dallaskd]

we really need new refs

[dallaskd]

The Mayweather fight hasnt even started yet. hopefully i can catch both!

[dallaskd]

Before the mayweather fight, was chris john vs rocky juarez. when talking about juarez it says:

-5 title fights
-no notable fights

wtf? boxing is a joke

[Mr Dio]

You weren't fighting Eddie Sanchez or some Pride flunkie WIld Boy. :lol

[Evan]

there is no greater suffering than being a Cro Cop fan

[dallaskd]

AHAHAHAHAHA CRO FLOP!!

sorry evan

[BlackSwordsMan]

cro cop lost?

[dallaskd]

he gave up, really

[dallaskd]

Vitor-Anderson!!!

[djohn14]

I was 5-0!!!!!!

[BlackSwordsMan]

so when does MTV sign cro cop for bully beatdown? LOL

[Stringer_Bell]

Well, I'm really bummed about Cro Cop. It's shitty to see such a badass man getting worn down with every match. I think he's done, sons.

Also, I haven't been keeping up with the game much...what do tonight's matches mean for future match-ups? If anything.

[angelbelow]

wow vitor wow.

[polandprzem]

Drwal won haha - the best polish guy in UFC :)

He suits better to the 185 division but he might be too slow for it once he gonna get a faster guy.


Franklin was just weak, he had no recipt for Phenom who caught Rich and finished with his old fashined fast power.
Rich should do better.

[dallaskd]

Rich was pushing the pace and looked decent. If it had gone to the second round I think he would have warmed up. Vitor is back. Id love to see him fight Hendo or Nate. Or beat up Bisping.

[polandprzem]

If Hendo do not like to fight against nate, let him fight Vitor to determine the next opponent for Silva.
Give Nate a chance against Anderson

Although I would like to have Silva fight rashard first

[djohn14]

Ya know I had originally missed the Daley-Kampman fight and I read I think dallaskd said that it was a bad stoppage. I dont have much of a problem with it because he got hit HARD a few times. Yeah, I would have liked for him to have been dropped first, but I think that was an ok decision.

[Evan]

Cro Cops style is stale and he has lost his speed.

[Evan]

I did my picks....wtf....??!?!?!?

I would have gone 4-1...wtf....

[BWS-1994]

The first two minutes was like the calm before the storm. Quite a quick storm that was. I didn't knew Vitor had that much power that a slight graze would blank Franklin out.

And I feel bad for one of my Pride heroes...

[dallaskd]

So what do you guys think of Dos Santos as a threat in the HW division. yay or nay?

[BlackSwordsMan]

no he sucks too

[dbreiden83080]

Was away all weekend just saw the fights, mediocre card and the fights weren't much better.

Vitor really looked good, with those hands fast as ever. That's why i thought he had a good shot here, because Rich was likely going to be cautious, and if it had moments in the pocket, the Vitor hands would be there. Rich's lack of wrestling hurt him in this fight, Vitor had been exposed by those guys in the past as a weakness in his game (Tito, Randy Twice)


Trigg looked bad, Kos whipped him just like everyone thought he would..

Mirko is done..

[dallaskd]

DB and who ever hasnt seen it.. watch this fight. its awesome..

http://www.mma-core.com/videos/_Ricky_Story_vs_Brian_Foster_UFC_103?vid=10006547&tid=100

[tlongII]

DB and who ever hasnt seen it.. watch this fight. its awesome..

http://www.mma-core.com/videos/_Ricky_Story_vs_Brian_Foster_UFC_103?vid=10006547&tid=100

Thanks. Definitely a great fight.

[dallaskd]

Was away all weekend just saw the fights, mediocre card and the fights weren't much better.

The undercard was 10x better than the main card. check them out.

[LEONARD]

Great night of fights...between Spike and the PPV, 11 were aired I think?

4 good fights on Spike...Story vs Foster was killer. Nice payday for Story...

Glad to see Griffin finally get a TKO after all his decisions. His muffin-top was terrible though...that extra 4 lbs made a difference I guess. Or maybe his shorts were tighter. It was very distracting though... :lol

Trigg is a d-bag...he tried hard to sell that he wasn't hurt, but he was hurt pretty bad and it was only going to get worse.

Kampmann had the worst game plan I've seen in a while, which is surprising being that he's with Couture's camp. He's good on the ground...Daley is terrible and that's where he loses...not on the feet. He should've been all over the takedown from the get go. His takedown efforts were half-hearted it seemed...stupid stupid stupid.

Crocop...sigh. He just doesn't have it any more. That and JDS is a bad dude. Definitely future HW championship material...

Expected a longer fight with Rich and Vitor...but Vitor winning is probably best. Rich will continue being a top level gate keeper and workhorse for the company. Vitor can hopefully fight Silva at MW, since nothing else makes sense right now.


no he sucks too

Huh?

[TheTruth]

Franklin's days as a headliner are done, right? Love the guy, but he's headlined 2 cards this past year. That is 2 too many, IMO.

[LEONARD]

He'll still be a last minute need a headliner guy I'm sure...probably on a Euro card, or fight night (worst case). He's the best gate keeper in the UFC...

[Soul_Patch]

God, Mirko looked absolutely terrible. I described it as looking like someone forced him to be there, and he didnt really want to. He did nothing but back pedal and throw reactionary strikes teh whole time. Any time JDS engaged, he looked like "OH SHIT NO FUCK! AH! HE IS HITTING ME!"

Terrible fight.

[dbreiden83080]

Franklin's days as a headliner are done, right? Love the guy, but he's headlined 2 cards this past year. That is 2 too many, IMO.

He's still a top fighter, he just headlined and won a war with Wandy, tell me that fight wasn't amazing.. He'll be headlining again and he deserves too..

[LEONARD]

So what do you guys think of Dos Santos as a threat in the HW division. yay or nay?

I think he's absolutely a threat. A couple more big wins and I would imagine he'll be in a title fight...

http://mmamania.com/2009/09/20/ufc-quick-quote-junior-dos-santos-is-now-a-senior-ranking-heavyweight/

“Dos Santos is no joke. He hits hard, and he’s been knocking people out. [UFC 103] was a big night for him that definitely put him on the map now. He’s in the mix.”

– UFC President Dana White marvels at the continued progress of Junior Dos Santos during last night’s UFC 103 post-fight presser.


He couldn't have a better guy to follow in Big Nog...
http://mma.fanhouse.com/2009/09/20/dos-santos-hopes-to-follow-teammates-silva-nogueira-as-champ/

[polandprzem]

Isn't it the worst thing to say about a fighter that he he is a gatekeeper when he was a champion?

btw. so many voices say taht ufc should do a 195 division what is yor opinion on that?
Maybe they shoul put one more div?
155/165/180/195/210 or 215
155/170/185/200/215 or 220

:huh

[LEONARD]

Isn't it the worst thing to say about a fighter that he he is a gatekeeper when he was a champion?

btw. so many voices say taht ufc should do a 195 division what is yor opinion on that?
Maybe they shoul put one more div?
155/165/180/195/210 or 215
155/170/185/200/215 or 220

:huh

Sure, being a gate keeper isn't a good thing really. I just don't think Rich was ever an elite fighter. I think he is really good, but he got a big push from the UFC after beating...

Win Ken Shamrock
Win Evan Tanner
Win Nate Quarry
Win David Loiseau

Really?? That quartet of fights made him a star. How did Quarry get a title shot? Loiseau was clearly over-rated. Love Tanner, but…not a top level guy in today’s MMA.

Then you have the pattern of losing to an elite fighter and getting 2 wins over solid guys that repeats a couple times. Belfort broke that pattern.

Loss Anderson Silva
Win Jason MacDonald
Win Yushin Okami
Loss Anderson Silva
Win Travis Lutter
Win Matt Hamill
Loss Dan Henderson
Win Wanderlei Silva
Loss Vitor Belfort

Wanderlei is Rich’s biggest in IMO.

Other notable fights…
Loss Lyoto Machida (LHW)
Win Jorge Rivera
Win Edwin Dewees
Win Evan Tanner

[LEONARD]

btw. so many voices say taht ufc should do a 195 division what is yor opinion on that?
Maybe they shoul put one more div?
155/165/180/195/210 or 215
155/170/185/200/215 or 220

:huh

195 doesn't make any sense to me...

Splitting HW at 230 or 235 lbs makes sense.

[Soul_Patch]

Anyone else find it a bit absurd that Vitor comes back and beats franklin, then all of the sudden everyone is shouting for him to fight Anderson Silva? i mean really?


I couldnt even see it being much of a contest really.

[LEONARD]

Dana knows it would sell nicely...

If not Vitor, who at MW?

It's an interesting matchup between 2 top notch strikers. I think Silva's size and reach would be too much for Vitor...but I'm definitely interested to see it. Way more than Marquardt...or even Hendo really.

[Soul_Patch]

Grant it, i dont know Vitor all that well, but from what i do know, and then what i saw of him Saturday, i just cant see him being that much of a contest. Who knows, maybe im wrong. I would love to see someone knock him off (Silva), so give him a shot.

I still say Marquardt v Belfort then winner of that fight go after Silva or Henderson, whomever wins. Too soon to just throw him at the title after a fluke KO, or before even...i think they were trying to get him to talk about a silva matchup before the fight even started.

[polandprzem]

Anyone else find it a bit absurd that Vitor comes back and beats franklin, then all of the sudden everyone is shouting for him to fight Anderson Silva? i mean really?


I couldnt even see it being much of a contest really.

Same was with Shogun who gest the fight against Machina :)

[polandprzem]

195 doesn't make any sense to me...

Splitting HW at 230 or 235 lbs makes sense.

I don't know if it's good to slit the hw now. Who do you have in HW then?

Top fighters in Brock and Carwin then maybe a new Duffee (still we don't know how good he is)

Rest of the guys could easily make 235, So hw would not make much sense at least for a couple more years IMO

[tlongII]

I want to see Silva vs Machida. Dana just needs to throw enough money at them to make it happen.

[LEONARD]

Grant it, i dont know Vitor all that well, but from what i do know, and then what i saw of him Saturday, i just cant see him being that much of a contest. Who knows, maybe im wrong. I would love to see someone knock him off (Silva), so give him a shot.

I still say Marquardt v Belfort then winner of that fight go after Silva or Henderson, whomever wins. Too soon to just throw him at the title after a fluke KO, or before even...i think they were trying to get him to talk about a silva matchup before the fight even started.

Why was that a "fluke KO?" If he had beat Rich with a gogoplata, it would've been a fluke. Vitor is a KO artist...it's what he does. Why is Marquardt more deserving? He already got embarrassed by Silva once. I know he's supposedly better now than he was 2 years ago, but I don't see how he's made up enough ground on Silva. I love me some Hendo and he's probably the toughest matchup for Silva right now, but I don't see him beating him...and I don't care to see him lose to him again.

Vitor over the last 3 yrs...

Loss Dan Henderson
Win Ivan Serati
Win James Zikic
Win Terry Martin
Win Matt Lindland
Win Rich Franklin

Lost a decision to Dan (no shame in that)...violent KO's of Martin and Lindland at MW, and now he TKO'd Rich at 195 lbs...

http://i35.tinypic.com/206c4md.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/2ypfd5g.jpg

They can sell Vitor vs Silva, and he's a threat on the feet where the fight would stay. I like it.

[Evan]

Anyone else find it a bit absurd that Vitor comes back and beats franklin, then all of the sudden everyone is shouting for him to fight Anderson Silva? i mean really?.

I wouldn't say all of the sudden. People started talking about this a year ago and Vitor is worth the shot.

[Soul_Patch]

By fluke i mean glancing blow that just sorta found the right spot behind the ear. Not saying the dude isnt tough, just saying i think he needs one more UFC fight before he gets a title shot.

[Evan]

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[The TroutBum]

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lol, what a fag.