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spursballer21
09-12-2009, 10:14 AM
well as the tread says it i need opinions on how im doing i bearly have a year or less working on this type of artwork and some ppl say its real good but i just think its normal but i want honesty from you spurstalkers and ideas for buildigns that r nice and interestint i can draw or other things i can draw
anyone know how to shade good ?
and advice on how do facial human faces especially hair im afraid of that and im a teen

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j139/basketballspurs21/capital.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j139/basketballspurs21/rockinn.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j139/basketballspurs21/jeremy.jpg

Vinnie_Johnson
09-12-2009, 10:28 AM
It looks good to me nice job.

spursballer21
09-12-2009, 10:36 AM
It looks good to me nice job.
thanks

Fpoonsie
09-12-2009, 10:58 AM
Yeah, it looks good. The jukebox is especially impressive.

spursballer21
09-12-2009, 11:27 AM
Yeah, it looks good. The jukebox is especially impressive.

thanks for everything
and the jukebox is a building in disney called the rock inn

marini martini
09-12-2009, 01:23 PM
The capitol, looks a bit out of kilter. The dimensions, proportions, balance and symmetry need a little work. Your runner is a great interpretive piece as is the juke box. Stay with it, you definitely have some promising talent!:toast

spursballer21
09-12-2009, 02:24 PM
The capitol, looks a bit out of kilter. The dimensions, proportions, balance and symmetry need a little work. Your runner is a great interpretive piece as is the juke box. Stay with it, you definitely have some promising talent!:toast
well that one i did fast i did in two days so i can understand why it looks kinda kitlerish
and the other ones i took 45 minutes each day for a about two-1 months in time
and yeah
its just practice
i didnt even know i had it
till i showed it around to ppl
and everyone started to say wow ure good
u should do more
i didnt even know u could be an artist u look to cool for that lol
im just working on my art skills at the moment
i got into painting to improve it and learn a new type of art style and materials
and thanks for all

2Blonde
09-12-2009, 02:41 PM
The capitol, looks a bit out of kilter. The dimensions, proportions, balance and symmetry need a little work. Your runner is a great interpretive piece as is the juke box. Stay with it, you definitely have some promising talent!:toast

I agree with Martini. It looks promising. Right now you seem to be doing the majority of your shading w/crosshatch. Time and practice will get you better and more confident in your shading abilities.

Here is one of my drawings in the beginning stages (not much detail added yet) and just the preliminary shading. What you will see is that I go in first and add all the darkest shadows, leaving the rest untouched. Next I will go in and add a more even layer of shadowing to the entire drawing since flesh is never pure white. The result will be the sections of the picture that are currently shaded will be darker because they contain 2 layers of shading.


http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3377/bballinprogress.jpg

Below this are a two of my older, finished drawings that give a good example of shading.


http://img281.imageshack.us/img281/4245/maletorso7gk.jpg
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/2324/10505837ga.jpg

I have found the human body is the best place to practice shading. All of the subtle shadows and curves lend themselves to some beautiful shading.

You should check out the link below. It is an artist's community and they have lessons, advice, every resource you could imagine. They also have a library of pictures without a copy-write that you can use as well as information on the legalities when you choose to draw something that has a copy-write.
WetCanvas, artist's community
http://www.wetcanvas.com/


Here are a couple of other sites too.
How to Draw Eyes
http://drawsketch.about.com/library/weekly/aa010503a.htm
How to Draw Hair
http://drawsketch.about.com/library/weekly/aa032303a.htm

GOOD LUCK:toast

spursballer21
09-12-2009, 03:02 PM
I agree with Martini. It looks promising. Right now you seem to be doing the majority of your shading w/crosshatch. Time and practice will get you better and more confident in your shading abilities.

Here is one of my drawings in the beginning stages (not much detail added yet) and just the preliminary shading. What you will see is that I go in first and add all the darkest shadows, leaving the rest untouched. Next I will go in and add a more even layer of shadowing to the entire drawing since flesh is never pure white. The result will be the sections of the picture that are currently shaded will be darker because they contain 2 layers of shading.


http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3377/bballinprogress.jpg

Below this are a two of my older, finished drawings that give a good example of shading.


http://img281.imageshack.us/img281/4245/maletorso7gk.jpg
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/2324/10505837ga.jpg

I have found the human body is the best place to practice shading. All of the subtle shadows and curves lend themselves to some beautiful shading.

You should check out the link below. It is an artist's community and they have lessons, advice, every resource you could imagine. They also have a library of pictures without a copy-write that you can use as well as information on the legalities when you choose to draw something that has a copy-write.
WetCanvas, artist's community
http://www.wetcanvas.com/


Here are a couple of other sites too.
How to Draw Eyes
http://drawsketch.about.com/library/weekly/aa010503a.htm
How to Draw Hair
http://drawsketch.about.com/library/weekly/aa032303a.htm

GOOD LUCK:toast

wow amazing stuff u got there
since when have u been drawing and yeah im check out the website to see what i can learn what type of pencils should i use and materials
at the moment ive only used number 2 pencils and charcoal pencils and everything i showed here is done in pen pilot cross hatching
put other pics u drew i would like to see

BlackSwordsMan
09-12-2009, 03:19 PM
why does the runners head looks like it caved in

spursballer21
09-12-2009, 03:23 PM
why does the runners head looks like it caved in
what do u mean caved in?

BlackSwordsMan
09-12-2009, 03:41 PM
his head don't seem right to me

2Blonde
09-12-2009, 03:48 PM
wow amazing stuff u got there
since when have u been drawing and yeah im check out the website to see what i can learn what type of pencils should i use and materials
at the moment ive only used number 2 pencils and charcoal pencils and everything i showed here is done in pen pilot cross hatching
put other pics u drew i would like to see
I started drawing in the summer of 2004 when I was 42. My daughter used to go visit her dad for 6 weeks every summer, so while she was gone I decided to take a 4 week beginning drawing class through the NEISD Adult Education Program. Then I just practiced & taught myself.
As for pencils. I tend to use 2B, 4B, 6B & 8B. They darker as the number goes up. I am just starting with charcoal pencils this year. My drawings have always been very precise and didn't work as well with the soft lines of charcoal. This year, I challenged myself to work on looser strokes and utilizing charcoals.

I also do a lot of work with pilot V5 & V7 precise pens and Faber-Castell Pitt black artist pens ( they come in a wide variety of sizes) xs, s, f, m, b(brush).

The papers I use vary. For ink work, I like a heavy-weight smooth paper. I do not like the slick papers that cartoonists & manga artists like because the ink doesn't dry fast and I tend to smudge. :bang For pencil drawings I prefer heavy-weight, medium or rough surface paper. For charcoal, heavy-weight smooth or rough, because I like how different things can look on the different textures.

If I have time later, I'll take some pics and upload some stuff for you. Oh yeah, take a pen or pencil and a drawing pad (just get one from the dollar store) with you everywhere you go. Waiting in line or at the dr's office etc.. just start sketching and drawing. Don't worry about what comes out, just draw a line or a curve and add on from there.

tlongII
09-12-2009, 03:50 PM
Looks pretty good to me. It's a helluva lot better than mouse's artwork!

spursballer21
09-12-2009, 04:08 PM
his head don't seem right to me


o yeah i know i hate that part too my teacher made me do it supposely it added depth and shadow to it :lol



I started drawing in the summer of 2004 when I was 42. My daughter used to go visit her dad for 6 weeks every summer, so while she was gone I decided to take a 4 week beginning drawing class through the NEISD Adult Education Program. Then I just practiced & taught myself.
As for pencils. I tend to use 2B, 4B, 6B & 8B. They darker as the number goes up. I am just starting with charcoal pencils this year. My drawings have always been very precise and didn't work as well with the soft lines of charcoal. This year, I challenged myself to work on looser strokes and utilizing charcoals.

I also do a lot of work with pilot V5 & V7 precise pens and Faber-Castell Pitt black artist pens ( they come in a wide variety of sizes) xs, s, f, m, b(brush).

The papers I use vary. For ink work, I like a heavy-weight smooth paper. I do not like the slick papers that cartoonists & manga artists like because the ink doesn't dry fast and I tend to smudge. :bang For pencil drawings I prefer heavy-weight, medium or rough surface paper. For charcoal, heavy-weight smooth or rough, because I like how different things can look on the different textures.

If I have time later, I'll take some pics and upload some stuff for you. Oh yeah, take a pen or pencil and a drawing pad (just get one from the dollar store) with you everywhere you go. Waiting in line or at the dr's office etc.. just start sketching and drawing. Don't worry about what comes out, just draw a line or a curve and add on from there.
wow thanks for all the great ill use it all it looks great everything uve done ive only had a less than a year 8 months i plan to improve and learn new techniques i love it how we artist see things
like we see shapes instead of just the things and draw from there its like a puzzle lots of pieces and litle by little and when complety amazing and all the stuff uve said wow the materials are to many i only use number 2 pencil and some pilot pen idk what theyre called its v ball point grip i think there amazing but expensive 9 bucks for two
my shading maybe ill upload one of pic of later
but my teacher says the style she likes and its kinda like an 80s or 90s style idk what she means but she says its unique and likes it lol
and the drawing pad idea sounds good i have one but sometimes im afraid to draw things in real life im bearly finding out that i can be good at them but im super slow i take forever im real patient with all my artwork ill rather take a month two moths alot of time but come out good than make a mess


Looks pretty good to me. It's a helluva lot better than mouse's artwork!
o i wanna see mouse artworks ive never seen it and thanks bro

2Blonde
09-12-2009, 04:17 PM
Don't worry, I am very slow as well. As for the portable drawing pad, The reason I say get one from the dollar store is that you won't get a block about what you want to draw. when you are using higher quality paper, you sometimes get artist's block because you don't want to mess up the picture and waste money. With cheap paper, you don't care and will step outside the box and try new stuff. Then if you like something you do, you can always do it later on better paper.

spursballer21
09-12-2009, 04:26 PM
Don't worry, I am very slow as well. As for the portable drawing pad, The reason I say get one from the dollar store is that you won't get a block about what you want to draw. when you are using higher quality paper, you sometimes get artist's block because you don't want to mess up the picture and waste money. With cheap paper, you don't care and will step outside the box and try new stuff. Then if you like something you do, you can always do it later on better paper.
hahah totally get you yeah i have one and will probably buy more in the future of that kind of drawing pads
but when i make a painting shading or materials i dont mind wasting money thats not a problem because good artwork costs money and the quality comes out better ;)
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j139/basketballspurs21/guitargirl2.jpg

here is one example of one of my shading i did this in the summer in normal white printing paper the one you use for the computer right now i dont own it i gave it to a freind as a gift with a basic number 2 pencil

agh i hate giving my artwork only special freinds or ppl can get it
although ppl have told me to sell stuff
i telll them i only do it with my hear and passion i dont it do it for money or selling i think i would loose the passion of it if i would get money from it

and here is one i did a while back in 8th grade 5 minutes its a sketch but funny and cool

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j139/basketballspurs21/l_1eaac6aaf4f343f78de1cce76a56e3aa.jpg

spursballer21
09-12-2009, 05:06 PM
Nice work. How long have you been drawing. Sorry if you've already answered this. The Coliseum would be a nice one to tackle. I often go to www.deviantart.com (http://www.deviantart.com) :toast You'll find some inspiration there.

wow thanks for the advice maybe ill do it it sounds interesting and fun but i bet its hard but dont worry im try it probably now i gotta google a good pic lol
o yeah i always go there tons of artist and good ideas thanks for the info anyways

and about 7 months 8 months i've been doing it

spursballer21
09-12-2009, 05:17 PM
You'll never fail in surprising yourself in art. Five years from now, you'll cringe at what you're doing today. Continue to challenge that creative spirit.
yeah ill remember your words man that inspired me
everyone says words similar to ures
i used to do art in middle school etc but till last year
when this teacher told me just do it and do it practice the value scale
and belive in ureself and start seeing extra stuff and not just easy and the best of all advice be patient u never know how much time ones drawing will takes time
i love doing it
sometimes i get lazy
but little by little im learning to love and has become a new hobby
i dont ever think ill become a great amazing artist but im good better than average im just gonna improve practice and do my best learn everything i can
but selling is one thing idk if ill ever do

Jekka
09-12-2009, 05:40 PM
Good stuff, although I do agree with 2Blonde about the cross-hatching. Have you worked with charcoal before? Either that or working with some softer leads that you can blend might help if you're looking to expand past your current technique.

One of my favorite things to do when practicing my drawing was to focus a lot on figure drawing. It teaches a lot about quickly interpreting the negative and positive space, which will help your drafting to become more accurate and efficient.

spursballer21
09-12-2009, 05:43 PM
Good stuff, although I do agree with 2Blonde about the cross-hatching. Have you worked with charcoal before? Either that or working with some softer leads that you can blend might help if you're looking to expand past your current technique.

One of my favorite things to do when practicing my drawing was to focus a lot on figure drawing. It teaches a lot about quickly interpreting the negative and positive space, which will help your drafting to become more accurate and efficient.

Well ive worked with charcoal pencils but im not so good with them im bearly learning how to shade with them become the shading with them compared to pencils r different and u cant erase as easily
what kind of leds can i use

and show me some examples of figure drawing or things i can do which r figure drawing im guessing ure an artist too

E-1101
09-12-2009, 06:46 PM
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/run6.gif

E-1101
09-12-2009, 06:50 PM
For only 35 dollars you can show your work in Brooklyn NY!

http://moca.virtual.museum/contestoct09/main.htm

The Final Countdown
09-12-2009, 07:05 PM
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/099.jpg

The Final Countdown
09-12-2009, 07:06 PM
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/0999999.jpg

The Final Countdown
09-12-2009, 07:08 PM
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/09999999.jpg

Summers
09-12-2009, 07:11 PM
This thread reminds me of the movie Amadeus.

mouse
09-12-2009, 07:20 PM
Those are very well drawings ,you should do some Spurs players they would sell here at ST! :tu

The deadline for that Brooklyn contest I think it's September 30th the most I can spend is 35.00 dollars so I was hoping since we are talking art here if some of you can help me narrow it down to three images I was thinking of submitting?

here is image 3 then 2 and then 1

thank you for your opinions!

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/111.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/1111.jpg



This one minus the sofa.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/11111.jpg

Jekka
09-12-2009, 08:19 PM
Well ive worked with charcoal pencils but im not so good with them im bearly learning how to shade with them become the shading with them compared to pencils r different and u cant erase as easily
what kind of leds can i use

and show me some examples of figure drawing or things i can do which r figure drawing im guessing ure an artist too

The idea with charcoal isn't really being able to erase - it's messy by nature (check out some William Kentridge for examples - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7WtFZKwdtc), charcoal is for being able to get your subjects down on paper quickly, which is how you improve your technique. More drawings = more practice = better drawing, and this way you make good use of your time. Also, if you're in a pinch and don't have proper charcoal "fix", you can set the drawings with hairspray so the black doesn't get everywhere. Don't be afraid to get a little messy, though - you're looking for form, not necessarily pristine execution. Doing charcoal will help improve your drawings with other mediums.

At any rate, I don't have my portfolio here in Michigan with me, and the few figure drawings I have online are in pen and prismacolor, like the following:
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KLrJaDLYQP0/SqxGJpEqAbI/AAAAAAAAABc/G1a6sHajtjw/prismahands1a1.jpg
But, that is an example of doing studies on subjects - looking at one thing from several different angles and trying to do them in rapid succession. This drawing was based off of pencil drawings.

As for what leads to use, any in the higher B numbers - the softest I've used is like a 9B, but anything will work - you can always get a set and experiment to find what you really like.

ManuTP9
09-12-2009, 08:30 PM
http://i31.tinypic.com/11c71pu.jpg

mouse
09-12-2009, 08:37 PM
http://i31.tinypic.com/11c71pu.jpg

Dude that is sweet please enter it!

http://moca.virtual.museum/

go to contest of the month check out th competition.


http://moca.virtual.museum/contestoct09/contestpages/contestindex.htm


Try to enlarge the image to at least 1020 x to what ever, they have to place it on canvas and it will lose quality.

2Blonde
09-12-2009, 08:38 PM
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/run6.gif
That is sooo cool!!!! Thank you for animating my work.:toast:toast:toast:toast

ManuTP9
09-12-2009, 08:43 PM
Dude that is sweet please enter it!

http://moca.virtual.museum/

go to contest of the month check out th competition.


http://moca.virtual.museum/contestoct09/contestpages/contestindex.htm


Try to enlarge the image to at least 1020 x to what ever, they have to place it on canvas and it will lose quality.

Thanks for the heads up, just submitted it.

mouse
09-12-2009, 08:55 PM
I am not sure what software you use but how can I make this have more of a jelly bean type texture?

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/th_jelly-belly.jpg (http://s125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/?action=view&current=jelly-belly.jpg)

mouse
09-12-2009, 08:56 PM
That is sooo cool!!!! Thank you for animating my work.:toast:toast:toast:toast

You have photobucket account?

ManuTP9
09-12-2009, 09:05 PM
http://i32.tinypic.com/358b9eh.jpg

im kind of new to photoshopping etc, im not really sure how to make it more jelly like.

duncan228
09-12-2009, 09:11 PM
if some of you can help me narrow it down to three images i was thinking of submitting?

#2.

mouse
09-12-2009, 09:19 PM
#2.

I already submitted this one. :depressed

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/th_moca-1.jpg (http://s125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/?action=view&current=moca-1.jpg)

ManuTP9 next month lets take our time and send in an image that will blow them away!

ManuTP9
09-12-2009, 09:26 PM
I already submitted this one. :depressed

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/th_moca-1.jpg (http://s125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/?action=view&current=moca-1.jpg)

ManuTP9 next month lets take our time and send in an image that will blow them away!

No doubt

spursballer21
09-12-2009, 09:36 PM
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/0999999.jpg


Those are very well drawings ,you should do some Spurs players they would sell here at ST! :tu

The deadline for that Brooklyn contest I think it's September 30th the most I can spend is 35.00 dollars so I was hoping since we are talking art here if some of you can help me narrow it down to three images I was thinking of submitting?

here is image 3 then 2 and then 1

thank you for your opinions!

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/111.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/1111.jpg



This one minus the sofa.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/11111.jpg
Mouse and the Final Countdown im guessing ure the same person cuz ure using the same photoshop account and well thanks ill for saying my drawings r good ill try to see if i can do some spurs players soon which ones would be good?haha maybe duncan ginoboli or parker maybe even hill
and why did u edit my pictures?
its cool though i can other ways to do things ;)


The idea with charcoal isn't really being able to erase - it's messy by nature (check out some William Kentridge for examples - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7WtFZKwdtc), charcoal is for being able to get your subjects down on paper quickly, which is how you improve your technique. More drawings = more practice = better drawing, and this way you make good use of your time. Also, if you're in a pinch and don't have proper charcoal "fix", you can set the drawings with hairspray so the black doesn't get everywhere. Don't be afraid to get a little messy, though - you're looking for form, not necessarily pristine execution. Doing charcoal will help improve your drawings with other mediums.

At any rate, I don't have my portfolio here in Michigan with me, and the few figure drawings I have online are in pen and prismacolor, like the following:
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KLrJaDLYQP0/SqxGJpEqAbI/AAAAAAAAABc/G1a6sHajtjw/prismahands1a1.jpg
But, that is an example of doing studies on subjects - looking at one thing from several different angles and trying to do them in rapid succession. This drawing was based off of pencil drawings.

As for what leads to use, any in the higher B numbers - the softest I've used is like a 9B, but anything will work - you can always get a set and experiment to find what you really like.
Well im open to see any artwork even its in pencil show it to mei dont mind all artwork and styles and different ways amaze me
whic type of charcoal would u recomend me to buy?

Pistons < Spurs
09-12-2009, 09:47 PM
http://imgburst.com/up/jelly-belly9qz7.jpg

duncan228
09-12-2009, 10:04 PM
Wow. That's cool P < S.

mouse
09-12-2009, 10:29 PM
Pistons < Spurs

that is the effect I am looking for. what did you use CS3? is that the plastic wrap effect?

Can you do the same with the last image I posted but try and not make the bottom brown?

or maybe this one.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/th_night-quil-2.jpg (http://s125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/?action=view&current=night-quil-2.jpg)

mouse
09-12-2009, 10:32 PM
Mouse i can do some spurs players soon which ones would be good?

Do David Robinson and make sure you sign it I want to give it to Alamo50 for Xmas! :tu

spursballer21
09-12-2009, 11:04 PM
Do David Robinson and make sure you sign it I want to give it to Alamo50 for Xmas! :tu
well ill see if i can do it im try everthing to do it but idk how much would u give me and how would i send it
and ure the person that edited my jeremy wainer runner pic u have several accounts here i saw

The Final Countdown
09-12-2009, 11:26 PM
Mouse lets many of us use his account!

koriwhat
09-12-2009, 11:38 PM
to the OP, i think you're pretty damn good to be honest. sure you need more practice, as does everyone in the field, and more variety but you definitely have what it takes as long as you have that drive to get better. i like how you're not necessarily outlining your work and using crosshatch to shade it in. realism is always better not outlined, so good job!

keep it up.

TDMVPDPOY
09-12-2009, 11:57 PM
As for pencils. I tend to use 2B, 4B, 6B & 8B. They darker as the number goes up. I am just starting with charcoal pencils this year. My drawings have always been very precise and didn't work as well with the soft lines of charcoal. This year, I challenged myself to work on looser strokes and utilizing charcoals.

I also do a lot of work with pilot V5 & V7 precise pens and Faber-Castell Pitt black artist pens ( they come in a wide variety of sizes) xs, s, f, m, b(brush).

The papers I use vary. For ink work, I like a heavy-weight smooth paper. I do not like the slick papers that cartoonists & manga artists like because the ink doesn't dry fast and I tend to smudge. :

the charcoals :( they are a bitch when it snaps in half, the fabel-castels are fkn overrated and expensive shit, you tried their oil/water color mark color pencils? they are okay for ur avg user the 12-24 set, or you can try the massive set if ur into it.

Paper is also important depending on what type of drawing your planning to do, whether its oil, water or normal drawings, the thickness and quality of paper is important...

i did art during highschool for 4yrs, but i prefer graphics..did that for 6yrs...drawing buildings and shit if my only forte, but freestyle art or copying another thing is not what im good at, i also hate fkn coloring the thing also...2hb/2b pencil and black fineliner is all you need.

any of you guys do freestyle art like spraycan and stencils? its very popular now these days...no im not talkin about graffiti bs.

TDMVPDPOY
09-12-2009, 11:59 PM
The idea with charcoal isn't really being able to erase - it's messy by nature (check out some William Kentridge for examples - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7WtFZKwdtc), charcoal is for being able to get your subjects down on paper quickly, which is how you improve your technique. More drawings = more practice = better drawing, and this way you make good use of your time. Also, if you're in a pinch and don't have proper charcoal "fix", you can set the drawings with hairspray so the black doesn't get everywhere. Don't be afraid to get a little messy, though - you're looking for form, not necessarily pristine execution. Doing charcoal will help improve your drawings with other mediums.

Yeh charcoal works are a bitch, expecially when you have ur own art book, and it smudges the back of the previous art page...and smudges on the current piece can be a bitch also...

never really kept my highschool work or a port folio, but i prefer graphic design than art

Alex Jones
09-13-2009, 01:39 AM
can you post some of your work?

original poster good work but i ddn"t like the runners left hand the knuckles seem to heavy on the shade. is that normal?

Alex Jones
09-13-2009, 01:41 AM
I agree with Martini. It looks promising. Right now you seem to be doing the majority of your shading w/crosshatch. Time and practice will get you better and more confident in your shading abilities.

Here is one of my drawings in the beginning stages (not much detail added yet) and just the preliminary shading. What you will see is that I go in first and add all the darkest shadows, leaving the rest untouched. Next I will go in and add a more even layer of shadowing to the entire drawing since flesh is never pure white. The result will be the sections of the picture that are currently shaded will be darker because they contain 2 layers of shading.


http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3377/bballinprogress.jpg

Below this are a two of my older, finished drawings that give a good example of shading.


http://img281.imageshack.us/img281/4245/maletorso7gk.jpg
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/2324/10505837ga.jpg

I have found the human body is the best place to practice shading. All of the subtle shadows and curves lend themselves to some beautiful shading.

You should check out the link below. It is an artist's community and they have lessons, advice, every resource you could imagine. They also have a library of pictures without a copy-write that you can use as well as information on the legalities when you choose to draw something that has a copy-write.
WetCanvas, artist's community
http://www.wetcanvas.com/


Here are a couple of other sites too.
How to Draw Eyes
http://drawsketch.about.com/library/weekly/aa010503a.htm
How to Draw Hair
http://drawsketch.about.com/library/weekly/aa032303a.htm

GOOD LUCK:toast
:toast

spursballer21
09-13-2009, 09:59 PM
Mouse lets many of us use his account!allright well then why did u edit my picture etc theres gota be a reason behind it


to the OP, i think you're pretty damn good to be honest. sure you need more practice, as does everyone in the field, and more variety but you definitely have what it takes as long as you have that drive to get better. i like how you're not necessarily outlining your work and using crosshatch to shade it in. realism is always better not outlined, so good job!

keep it up. thanks i will do it and show u how i improve and my style wont change only harder things and i dont like outlines it looks weird cuz ill make it look like a coloring book page etc.


can you post some of your work?

original poster good work but i ddn"t like the runners left hand the knuckles seem to heavy on the shade. is that normal?
chill i bearly have 5-7 months learning it thats my 3rd drawing in that style
and what do u mean can you some of your work that is my work
everything i do is drawn from pictures

sabar
09-14-2009, 01:12 AM
That's pretty epic work for 5-7 months. It will take a few years before you get it down and then you'll think your first stuff looked like garbage.

Just work on fundamentals and ignore mouse and his 407 trolls.

The Final Countdown
09-14-2009, 03:56 AM
allright well then why did u edit my picture etc theres gota be a reason behind it


Let me think.........oh yea I was bored! But don't worry some guy wants me to put tila tequila's head on an alien body, and another friend of mine wants a picture of the last supper with the Spurs team having a meal.

That's what people with photo shop do they find pictures on the www and fuck with them you will see after you have been online awhile.

If your worried your priceless sketches will end up on the cover of some Russian sports magazine then before you use ST to showcase your talent you should learn how to use a watermark, or don't post anything on the www if it's private, that is my advise to you, I have found complaining about it will only make you look bad, and new to the www.

Actually you should have felt honored of the 5,550 or so images I see on a daily basis I actually stopped and took the time to fuck with one of yours.

:toast

mouse
09-14-2009, 04:01 AM
ignore mouse and his 407 trolls.

You need to update your Troll count to 408 I am about to make saladTossersabar TRoll.

mouse
09-14-2009, 04:05 AM
That is sooo cool!!!! Thank you for animating my work.:toast:toast:toast:toast

I thought it was the Kids work! I was scrolling the topic in a hurry I had no idea until I saw your quote last night I fucked with your artwork.

Your good how come you don't work for law enforcement as a sketch artist?

funny how you like seeing your stuff being manipulated and The Final Countdown is getting the 3rd degree from Mr. Net Nanny :lmao

TDMVPDPOY
09-14-2009, 05:41 AM
i remember in highschool

the art teacher was the highest paid employee in the school, and i roflmao for the type of shit she was running during her classes, all you do is fkn draw and talk shit about other employees behind there backs while students learn jackshit....im glad that school ended up shutting down due to financial reasons....

The Final Countdown
09-14-2009, 06:29 AM
:lmao

JoeChalupa
09-14-2009, 08:25 AM
Great artwork people. I wish I had 1/4 the talent some of you have.

clambake
09-14-2009, 09:57 AM
this stuff is kickass.

i'll take the image and the sofa, please.

JeopardyGeek
09-14-2009, 10:13 AM
I'll take "Starving Artists" for 1000, Alex.

2Blonde
09-14-2009, 04:43 PM
You have photobucket account?
no, I use imageshack. Why?

2Blonde
09-14-2009, 04:58 PM
That is sooo cool!!!! Thank you for animating my work.


I thought it was the Kids work! I was scrolling the topic in a hurry I had no idea until I saw your quote last night I fucked with your artwork.

Your good how come you don't work for law enforcement as a sketch artist?

funny how you like seeing your stuff being manipulated and The Final Countdown is getting the 3rd degree from Mr. Net Nanny :lmao

I just think it's cool to see another aspect of my work. When I draw it, I see my perspective. When you animated it, I was able to see it in another perspective.

As for working for Law enforcement... I'm too slow & there is a big difference between drawing what you see in a reference picture or your own mind vs. what is just in the mind of someone else. But thank you for the compliment.:toast

The Final Countdown
09-15-2009, 12:20 AM
As for working for Law enforcement... I'm too slow.

By the time you finish the sketch of the criminal the statue of limitations would have run out! :lmao



GgZifINUn20

2Blonde
09-15-2009, 12:46 AM
By the time you finish the sketch of the criminal the statue of limitations would have run out! :lmao

True:lol Or I have to age the picture.:toast

mouse
09-15-2009, 12:53 AM
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/dddddd.jpg

mouse
09-15-2009, 12:56 AM
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/eee.jpg


http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/dd.jpg

mouse
09-15-2009, 01:21 AM
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/eeeeeeee.jpg


http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/eeee.jpg

spursballer21
09-15-2009, 08:06 PM
That's pretty epic work for 5-7 months. It will take a few years before you get it down and then you'll think your first stuff looked like garbage.

Just work on fundamentals and ignore mouse and his 407 trolls.yeah i will dont worry right now im working on other buidigns and improving i showed them to my new teacher and she was impressed with what i had done and asked me to some historical buildings around town for a competition i hope i do good :hat


Let me think.........oh yea I was bored! But don't worry some guy wants me to put tila tequila's head on an alien body, and another friend of mine wants a picture of the last supper with the Spurs team having a meal.

That's what people with photo shop do they find pictures on the www and fuck with them you will see after you have been online awhile.

If your worried your priceless sketches will end up on the cover of some Russian sports magazine then before you use ST to showcase your talent you should learn how to use a watermark, or don't post anything on the www if it's private, that is my advise to you, I have found complaining about it will only make you look bad, and new to the www.

Actually you should have felt honored of the 5,550 or so images I see on a daily basis I actually stopped and took the time to fuck with one of yours.

:toastallright chill i just wanted to know thanks for editing pics


Great artwork people. I wish I had 1/4 the talent some of you have.thanks and thanks


http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/eeeeeeee.jpg


http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/eeee.jpgwow great editing thanks makes me look at different perspective

spursballer21
09-15-2009, 08:08 PM
anyone know of which charchoals to use there is different kinds and which brands cuz there is those of bars,string,and pencil and etc and which other materials r good to make the shading better

Daniel Plainview
09-15-2009, 09:09 PM
My good people of the Club, I can't really give a good review on art work in general since I spend most of my days in the oil fields, but I can assure you from what I have seen in this topic, this spursballer21 fella has talent.

spursballer21
09-15-2009, 09:17 PM
My good people of the Club, I can't really give a good review on art work in general since I spend most of my days in the oil fields, but I can assure you from what I have seen in this topic, this spursballer21 fella has talent.

thanks alot man that means alot to me i bearly have 5-7 months not sure when exactly i started dedicating to it but around that time
and right now im trying to improve on it as much as i can
im a teen
and right now what im trying to learn is to paint the shades,draw humans and animals fur hair good everything good those r my goals for the year for now
everyone has told me im good so now im embracing my talent and going further with it and using it to maximum level

Alex Jones
09-15-2009, 09:27 PM
We need more sketches stop teasing us!!

:wakeup

spursballer21
09-15-2009, 09:31 PM
We need more sketches stop teasing us!!

:wakeup
its that good?
lol
it takes time idk when ill get more
im see what i can do :king ill try as soon as i can to bring something new
what type and kinda stuff would u all like to see?
give me ideas its hard being a artist

Alex Jones
09-15-2009, 09:32 PM
Do a sketch of the banner above. :tu

spursballer21
09-15-2009, 09:33 PM
the guy and the kid or which :huh

Alex Jones
09-15-2009, 09:45 PM
the guy and the kid or which :huh

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/Style_Templates/Club/Main_pic_club_V2.jpg

spursballer21
09-15-2009, 09:48 PM
fine ill try but no guarrantees ill put it or do it good the image is no that intersting
when i draw something good the image has to be intersting just look at everything i have done it has some meaning to it and interesting

Bartleby
09-15-2009, 10:01 PM
anyone know of which charchoals to use there is different kinds and which brands cuz there is those of bars,string,and pencil and etc and which other materials r good to make the shading better

I live with an art prof and her syllabi are on my computer. These are some (but not nearly all) of the supplies from here drawing I and II classes:


General’s Graphite pencils – (2H, HB, 2B)
Alphacolor Char-Kole
General's charcoal pencils (2H, HB, 2B)
conte pencils - black and (sepia-optional)
graphite sticks(optional)
tool or tackle box for storing and transporting materials
reed pen
Higgin's black ink
Pelican sepia ink (optional)
ink wash brushes
compressed charcoal stick
powdered charcoal
permanent fixative
Compressed charcoal, Conte brand 2B, 3B
12 soft Vine charcoal sticks
2 hard (compressed) black charcoal stick
Conte #2, #3 in shades of brown
Assorted pencils: (1) 2H, (1) HB, (2) 2B, (1) 4B, (1) 6B

I don't know how particular she is about the brands of the supplies.

I think she does most of her ordering from Utrecht, sometimes Jerrys.

E-1101
09-15-2009, 10:08 PM
the image is no that intersting
when i draw something good the image has to be intersting just look at everything i have done it has some meaning to it and interesting

Then do a sketch of a Hooters waitress! :tu

Bartleby
09-15-2009, 10:21 PM
If you're really serious about pursuing drawing, my advice would be to

1. study the works of the Old Masters

2. explore what's happening in the contemporary art world by going to museums, galleries, and websites like this one

http://www.drawingcenter.org/viewingprogram/index.cfm

3. Draw what interests you most as often as you can.

spursballer21
09-15-2009, 10:36 PM
If you're really serious about pursuing drawing, my advice would be to

1. study the works of the Old Masters

2. explore what's happening in the contemporary art world by going to museums, galleries, and websites like this one

http://www.drawingcenter.org/viewingprogram/index.cfm


3. Draw what interests you most as often as you can.
yeah ive been going to websites u learn alot just by looking but looking and doing are two whole different things but it helps alot
and when i can i ask those who r profesionals teachers and students who r good around me to help out but i still keep my style just improve it is the only thing i can do and improve my style and yeah now litle by little when i free time i do more the more u do the better u get thats how i see it anyone i mean anyone can draw with a lil inspiration and hard work its all about"if you believe it you can achieve it"


Then do a sketch of a Hooters waitress! :tu
well idk lol chill man
NEXT idea

Danny Trejo
09-15-2009, 10:38 PM
Hey SA you pretty good with that art shit vato!

Can your draw a tattoo on my back of my 4th wife Lupita?

and can you put a black eye on my 3rd wife Olga?


http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/wifetattooviacosastaicehz6.jpg

spursballer21
09-15-2009, 10:41 PM
Hey SA you pretty good with that art shit vato!

Can your draw a tattoo on my back of my 4th wife Lupita?

and can you put a black eye on my 3rd wife Olga?


http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/wifetattooviacosastaicehz6.jpg
i dont do tatoos sorry man i have no idea how to use that ink or anything related to that

Danny Trejo
09-15-2009, 10:55 PM
i dont do tatoos sorry man i have no idea how to use that ink or anything related to that


Fukin Gringos! :bang

Laker Lanny
09-15-2009, 10:59 PM
http://pzrservices.typepad.com/vintageadvertising/images/2008/09/11/1971_draw_winky_ad_2.jpg

spursballer21
09-15-2009, 11:00 PM
Fukin Gringos! :bang
k trais no soy gringo soy latino jajajaja este vato

http://pzrservices.typepad.com/vintageadvertising/images/2008/09/11/1971_draw_winky_ad_2.jpg
nice joke

Jekka
09-15-2009, 11:34 PM
yeah ive been going to websites u learn alot just by looking but looking and doing are two whole different things but it helps alot

I'll second Bartleby's suggestion of going to museums - looking at stuff online can be good, but there is no substitute for seeing a work in person. Looking at something in the real world is where you can examine process, blending, texture, brushstroke, etc.

If you're in SA, I'd recommend heading over to the McNay - or, even better, get yourself over to Houston for the Menil Gallery, MFA, and Contemporary Arts Museum.

spursballer21
09-15-2009, 11:40 PM
I'll second Bartleby's suggestion of going to museums - looking at stuff online can be good, but there is no substitute for seeing a work in person. Looking at something in the real world is where you can examine process, blending, texture, brushstroke, etc.

If you're in SA, I'd recommend heading over to the McNay - or, even better, get yourself over to Houston for the Menil Gallery, MFA, and Contemporary Arts Museum.
yeah i try to look at artwork closely in person its true nothing like real life
and i dont live in san antonio i live in the tip of texas there is not much art museums but
there is alot of art carnivals or feasts where in a mesuem a whole bunch of artists show there artwork and sell so i try to go when i can

mouse
09-30-2009, 08:33 PM
http://i31.tinypic.com/11c71pu.jpg

You have less than four hours to submit your art!




http://moca.virtual.museum/

go to contest of the month check out th competition.


http://moca.virtual.museum/contestoct09/contestpages/contestindex.htm


Try to enlarge the image to at least 1020 x to what ever, they have to place it on canvas and it will lose quality.