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ducks
09-12-2009, 04:30 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_health_care_pushback

they are saying no to the guy in office
GOOD
boutons_deux
09-12-2009, 04:36 PM
all full of bullshit, as usual
iggypop123
09-12-2009, 07:57 PM
so they are saying no and thats it?
SouthernFried
09-12-2009, 08:26 PM
Another day of good news. Nice to see people fighting back on all fronts. Gives one hope.

I think Perry mentioned this a month or so back as well.
ElNono
09-12-2009, 09:02 PM
Federal law > State law. Period.
SouthernFried
09-12-2009, 11:20 PM
Federal law only is greater than state law..if it is constitutional.

"All powers not specifically granted to the Federal Govt by the Constitution, are the States and Individuals."

You simply cannot find Govt mandating health insurance for everyone in the country in the Constitution...it is simply not there.

Letsee if they can circumvent that "outdated and old" piece of parchment. Wouldn't be the first time.

"Hey, they need to ensure my 'WELFARE.'"

Which, according to our founders, was never meant to be an all ecompassing phrase to cover whatever anyone wants as "ensuring their welfare."

But, what do our founders know anyway.

and so it goes...
fyatuk
09-13-2009, 08:45 AM
Federal law > State law. Period.

Except it's not meant to be, but no one ever challenges it anymore.
George Gervin's Afro
09-13-2009, 09:03 AM
Federal law only is greater than state law..if it is constitutional.

"All powers not specifically granted to the Federal Govt by the Constitution, are the States and Individuals."

You simply cannot find Govt mandating health insurance for everyone in the country in the Constitution...it is simply not there.

Letsee if they can circumvent that "outdated and old" piece of parchment. Wouldn't be the first time.

"Hey, they need to ensure my 'WELFARE.'"

Which, according to our founders, was never meant to be an all ecompassing phrase to cover whatever anyone wants as "ensuring their welfare."

But, what do our founders know anyway.

and so it goes...


assisted suicide
medical marijuana
gay marriage

none of these are spelled out in the constitution. now what?
Wild Cobra
09-13-2009, 11:38 AM
Except it's not meant to be, but no one ever challenges it anymore.
That's because we lost states rights during the Civil War.
Yonivore
09-13-2009, 11:59 AM
That's because we lost states rights during the Civil War.
We lost states right when we ratified the 17th amendment.
Wild Cobra
09-13-2009, 12:27 PM
We lost states right when we ratified the 17th amendment.
I see that as just the nail in the coffin.
Yonivore
09-13-2009, 01:15 PM
I see that as just the nail in the coffin.
And, I would argue that being "the nail in the coffin," is a common euphemism for when something is lost. Up until passage of the 17th amendment, states still had a proxy in Washington who could be relied upon to invoke 10th amendment privilege.

Just saying...