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Winehole23
09-14-2009, 12:09 AM
Stiglitz Says Banking Problems Are Now Bigger Than Pre-Lehman (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aYdgQkXu9eBg)

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By Mark Deen and David Tweed
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/data?pid=avimage&iid=iP4Xrbn5A3D8

Sept. 13 (Bloomberg) -- [URL="http://search.bloomberg.com/search?q=Joseph+Stiglitz&site=wnews&client=wnews&proxystylesheet=wnews&output=xml_no_dtd&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&filter=p&getfields=wnnis&sort=date:D:S:d1"]Joseph Stiglitz (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aYdgQkXu9eBg#), the Nobel Prize- winning economist, said the U.S. has failed to fix the underlying problems of its banking system after the credit crunch and the collapse of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/quote?ticker=LEHMQ%3AUS).



“In the U.S. and many other countries, the too-big-to-fail banks have become even bigger,” Stiglitz said in an interview today in Paris. “The problems are worse than they were in 2007 before the crisis.”
Stiglitz’s views echo those of former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker (http://search.bloomberg.com/search?q=Paul+Volcker&site=wnews&client=wnews&proxystylesheet=wnews&output=xml_no_dtd&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&filter=p&getfields=wnnis&sort=date:D:S:d1), who has advised President Barack Obama’s (http://search.bloomberg.com/search?q=Barack+Obama%3Fs&site=wnews&client=wnews&proxystylesheet=wnews&output=xml_no_dtd&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&filter=p&getfields=wnnis&sort=date:D:S:d1) administration to curtail the size of banks, and Bank of Israel Governor Stanley Fischer (http://search.bloomberg.com/search?q=Stanley+Fischer&site=wnews&client=wnews&proxystylesheet=wnews&output=xml_no_dtd&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&filter=p&getfields=wnnis&sort=date:D:S:d1), who suggested last month that governments may want to discourage financial institutions from growing “excessively.”



A year after the demise of Lehman forced the Treasury Department to spend billions to shore up the financial system, Bank of America Corp (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/quote?ticker=BAC%3AUS).’s assets have grown and Citigroup Inc (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/quote?ticker=C%3AUS). remains intact. In the U.K., Lloyds Banking Group Plc, 43 percent owned by the government, has taken over the activities of HBOS Plc, and in France BNP Paribas SA now owns the Belgian and Luxembourg banking assets of insurer Fortis.



While Obama wants to name some banks as “systemically important” and subject them to stricter oversight, his plan wouldn’t force them to shrink or simplify their structure.



Stiglitz said the U.S. government is wary of challenging the financial industry because it is politically difficult, and that he hopes the Group of 20 leaders will cajole the U.S. into tougher action.



G-20 Steps



“We aren’t doing anything significant so far, and the banks are pushing back,” he said. “The leaders of the G-20 will make some small steps forward, given the power of the banks” and “any step forward is a move in the right direction.”



G-20 leaders gather next week in Pittsburgh and will consider ways of improving regulation of financial markets and in particular how to set tighter limits on remuneration for market operators. Under pressure from France and Germany, G-20 finance ministers last week reached a preliminary accord that included proposals to claw-back cash awards and linking compensation more closely to long-term performance.



“It’s an outrage,” especially “in the U.S. where we poured so much money into the banks,” Stiglitz said. “The administration seems very reluctant to do what is necessary. Yes they’ll do something, the question is: Will they do as much as required?”



Global Economy


Stiglitz, former chief economist at the World Bank and member of the White House Council of Economic Advisers, said the world economy is “far from being out of the woods” even if it has pulled back from the precipice it teetered on after the collapse of Lehman.



“We’re going into an extended period of weak economy, of economic malaise,” Stiglitz said. The U.S. will “grow but not enough to offset the increase in the population,” he said, adding that “if workers do not have income, it’s very hard to see how the U.S. will generate the demand that the world economy needs.”



The Federal Reserve faces a “quandary” in ending its monetary stimulus programs because doing so may drive up the cost of borrowing for the U.S. government, he said.



“The question then is who is going to finance the U.S. government,” Stiglitz said.

boutons_deux
09-14-2009, 05:22 AM
"wary of challenging the financial industry because it is politically difficult"

Corps and capitalists run the world, not elected politicians.

antimvp
09-14-2009, 06:02 AM
"wary of challenging the financial industry because it is politically difficult"

Corps and capitalists run the world, not elected politicians.


I was thinking the same thing......I even feel the credit card "reforms" where actually made only after the OK from the banking industry.


......and for loser that don't believe they run the world.......90% of Americans were against TARP 1.....and it passed anyway.

.'nuff said.

antimvp
09-14-2009, 06:02 AM
I was thinking the same thing......I even feel the credit card "reforms" where actually made only after the OK from the banking industry.


......and for losers that don't believe they run the world.......90% of Americans were against TARP 1.....and it passed anyway.

.'nuff said.

TDMVPDPOY
09-14-2009, 07:34 AM
even with improved and stricter reporting regulations wont even change it....

the problem lies with the banks operating activities and how it conducts itself over the management of money and decision making into personal and private deals....

Wild Cobra
09-14-2009, 12:50 PM
LOL... So predictable.

The government rewards them for failure, so why no fail again?

Winehole23
09-14-2009, 12:53 PM
Indeed, why not?

DarkReign
09-15-2009, 10:28 AM
Indeed, why not?

Well, if bank executives enjoy being dragged into the street and summarily hung from the nearest lightpost, by all means, fail again.

At least, I should say, I hope Americans still have it in them to do so. I am not very confident.

LnGrrrR
09-15-2009, 10:50 AM
Yup, pretty piss poor way to handle failure.

boutons_deux
09-15-2009, 11:20 AM
The casino-inhabiting banksters are beyond the reach of citizens.

They are truly untouchable.

They are even beyond the reach of the economy, as their current obscene profits and compenstations contrast with millions of foreclosures, millions of commercial and personal bankruptcies, millions of jobless, and shrinking/stagnant economy.

But, the scamming conservatives, themselves totally bankrupt intellectually, still think the unregulated free market (and what could be freer than the financial sector?) is the best system.

Winehole23
09-15-2009, 11:31 AM
b_d: Since all the bad guys are invulnerable and the problems they cause, utterly intractable, what do you gain by ranting?

Don't get me wrong, the knowledge=powerlessness lesson isn't lost on me, but you act as if the game were already over.

Do you really think so?

boutons_deux
09-15-2009, 11:47 AM
"game were already over."

It is.

As George Carlin said years ago "This country was bought, sold, and delivered a long time ago"

And the radical/activist Roberts court sure looks like it will soon, even hurriedly, allow corps to finance politicians directly out of corps' treasuries. No more silly PAC charades, or paying employees to contribute to politicians.

The corps have effectively infinite funds to purchase politicians, compared to how cheap politicians are to purchase.

If anyone thinks the politicians and regulatory/legal apparatus are already captured by the corps and capitalists, you ain't seen nothing, yet.