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whottt
04-12-2005, 08:48 PM
Apologize for hating on my boy.

Leetonidas
04-12-2005, 08:50 PM
I agree. I knew he'd show up, he just needed some time to step up and get some good minutes.

ChumpDumper
04-12-2005, 08:50 PM
They're watching the Knick game.

ShoogarBear
04-12-2005, 08:51 PM
Nazr gets a lot of his offensive rebounds the Moses Malone way: off his own misses.

Aggie Hoopsfan
04-12-2005, 08:53 PM
I told people when he came here:

If you start him, he will ball. We're starting him, and he's balling.

As for the Nazr haters, they're beating off down at Philly Phamous.

whottt
04-12-2005, 08:55 PM
IT's good to see you owning up and giving Nazr props Aggie

Aggie Hoopsfan
04-12-2005, 08:56 PM
Owning up? WTF? I was on the bandwagon the moment the trade was made. If Pop had been giving Nazr this kind of run since he got here, I'd win my damn bet with LJ :lol

whottt
04-12-2005, 09:01 PM
I know Aggie...I've been the #1 Nazr basher on the board remember?

I still want to see him do it against a team with a tough physical interior game though...

I know he's not a choker...but I still want to see if he is able to play smart when he is being challenged...

But for tonight? 12 first half boards is 12 first boards...whether it's against shitty team or not...you gotta give the guy props for that.

ChumpDumper
04-12-2005, 09:03 PM
Seeing as Pryzbilla averages over 10 boards a game as a starter, it's even more impressive he was held to two.

Brodels
04-12-2005, 09:04 PM
And I lost a battle blog for suggesting that Nazr should make the playoff roster...

Oh, the insanity.

E20
04-12-2005, 09:05 PM
Nazr is kicking ass.

Aggie Hoopsfan
04-12-2005, 09:07 PM
I think you need a re-vote Brodels (unless your argument sucked :lol ).

whottt
04-12-2005, 09:08 PM
Seeing as Pryzbilla averages over 10 boards a game as a starter, it's even more impressive he was held to two.


Pryzbilla is too busy trying to defend the entire Spurs team that is living in the paint...

He's about the only one that isn't mailing it in.

ShoogarBear
04-12-2005, 09:11 PM
Maybe this is heretical, but it would be nice to see him make a shot other than off an offensive rebound.

whottt
04-12-2005, 09:13 PM
Have you seen his J?

I don't ever want to see him take another J in his life...

I'll be satisfied if he doesn't get lost on D and can do his garbage work without getting lost and clogging the O(I don't expect these types of numbers)...that's all I want...

Aggie Hoopsfan
04-12-2005, 09:18 PM
Who cares how he gets his points? He's got a freakish ability to live on the offensive glass.

I don't want him taking touches from Tony, Manu, or Tim. I want him grabbing boards, blocking shots, and cleaning up their misses with garbage offensive rebound buckets.

ChumpDumper
04-12-2005, 09:21 PM
We'll never need to run a play for this guy other than pick and roll.

whottt
04-12-2005, 09:55 PM
Ha! Started this thread a bit too soon didn't you!

2 rebounds in the second half!

ChumpDumper
04-12-2005, 09:56 PM
Sybil?

Jimcs50
04-12-2005, 09:58 PM
I never hated Nazr.

I never hate anyone

I gave him his props over the weekend.

He will be a great backup for Rasho in playoffs.

Aggie Hoopsfan
04-12-2005, 10:03 PM
We'd be losing tonight if it weren't for his play, but I guess if you want to be critical knock yourself out.

IceColdBrewski
04-12-2005, 10:08 PM
A little vindication for those of us who defended the Rose trade instead of crying about what a terrible move it was.

whottt
04-12-2005, 10:15 PM
Well said.

I kinda felt the same way when Tony Parker vindicated himself @ GS.

smeagol
04-12-2005, 10:23 PM
What I like about him is the he fucking DUNKS de rock!

IceColdBrewski
04-12-2005, 10:30 PM
Well said.

I kinda felt the same way when Tony Parker vindicated himself @ GS.


Vindicated himself from what? I've proclaimed all along that Parker would be great if he could just be more consistent. How many points did he score tonight?

whottt
04-12-2005, 10:50 PM
What's pathetic is that you'll rag on Parker after he just goes 100 minutes and has the game of his life to win us a game we shouldn't have won, and is playing his 5th game in 7 days...

Yet you'll come in here and blatantly suck yourself off over Nazr having a good first half against a team that has won 9 games on the road all season...

If your evaluation of Parker requires that he scores 20 points per game then you might as well stop being a Spurfan...

Come to think of it, you might as well stop being a basketball fan, because no one does it...try watching another team sometime.

T Park
04-12-2005, 10:54 PM
Where you after saturday and sunday Ice???


Bad game tonight statistic wise, he shows up.


Patterns patterns patterns.

SequSpur
04-12-2005, 10:54 PM
At least Tony Parker doesn't wuss out like Manu on back to back games.

You know, if I was his teammate, I would be asking his ass wtf is up? Get your ass in the battle with me. I am tired and hurt to bitch, but its time to roll, its time to win, its time to get a ring.

But hey, thats me, I have the Army in me and its all about the team.

I am not so sure Manu is there "All of the time".

smeagol
04-12-2005, 10:55 PM
At least Tony Parker doesn't wuss out like Manu on back to back games.

You know, if I was his teammate, I would be asking his ass wtf is up? Get your ass in the battle with me. I am tired and hurt to bitch, but its time to roll, its time to win, its time to get a ring.

But hey, thats me, I have the Army in me and its all about the team.

I am not so sure Manu is there "All of the time".
:rolleyes

What an idiot!

whottt
04-12-2005, 10:55 PM
At least Manu doesn't wuss out for half the season like Vince!

IceColdBrewski
04-12-2005, 10:57 PM
Where you after saturday and sunday Ice???


Bad game tonight statistic wise, he shows up.


Patterns patterns patterns.

My fan club arrives.

Actually I've been working the past 4 nights. Tonight is the first of 4 nights off.

Parker had great games though. Happy?

SequSpur
04-12-2005, 10:57 PM
Manu can't play every other game and now I am an idiot?

Whottt, I don't really care about Vince Carter, so enough. wasting time bro.

He's just an exciting player to watch and one of the best in the league. Just like Tmac, Lebron, Shaq, Kobe, etc. etc.

T Park
04-12-2005, 10:58 PM
lol

Always got an excuse. Quite convienient.


No matter, he continues to play good, that keeps you away.


Its a win win for everyone.


BTW,

Sequ, STFU.

T Park
04-12-2005, 10:59 PM
I don't really care about Vince Carter, so enough

BS, you swung from his nuts every day after he was traded to NJ.


STFU.


Manu is twice the winner that fucker is.

whottt
04-12-2005, 11:00 PM
My fan club arrives.

Actually I've been working the past 4 nights. Tonight is the first of 4 nights off.

Parker had great games though. Happy?

No...that's not good enough...let's start with changing your title to vive la france, putting Parker in your avatar and sig...and then we'll put you on a probationary period and withold judgement until the end of the season.

Aggie Hoopsfan
04-12-2005, 11:01 PM
Did Tony play ball the entirety of the last two summers, leading his team to among other things a World Championship and an Olympic gold medal?

SequSpur
04-12-2005, 11:01 PM
lol

Always got an excuse. Quite convienient.


No matter, he continues to play good, that keeps you away.


Its a win win for everyone.


BTW,

Sequ, STFU.

Where was Manu against Golden State? Ahhhhhhh... he had the shits..

Remember when Jordan was almost passed out during a game and still balling it? Kobe?

Manu plays when he wants to. He's a poser.

Tpark, would you hire an employee that could only run the tiltawhirl every other day even though he was on salary and is supposed to work every day?

Fuck no you wouldn't. No difference in this scenario either.

So blow me.

whottt
04-12-2005, 11:02 PM
Did Tony play ball the entirety of the last two summers, leading his team to among other things a World Championship and an Olympic gold medal?


Did Nazr?!?!?!?!?

SequSpur
04-12-2005, 11:02 PM
Did Tony play ball the entirety of the last two summers, leading his team to among other things a World Championship and an Olympic gold medal?


How does today become effected by a FUCKIN Gold medal?

I don't get the correlation.

Sorry.

T Park
04-12-2005, 11:02 PM
lol.

You are such a moron its not even funny.


Manu wanted to play sunday but Pop didnt.


Are you a fuckin moron on purpose?

IceColdBrewski
04-12-2005, 11:03 PM
At least Tony Parker doesn't wuss out like Manu on back to back games.

You know, if I was his teammate, I would be asking his ass wtf is up? Get your ass in the battle with me. I am tired and hurt to bitch, but its time to roll, its time to win, its time to get a ring.

But hey, thats me, I have the Army in me and its all about the team.

I am not so sure Manu is there "All of the time".

Or maybe Manu (just like Duncan) is wearing down after playing in the olympics during the off-season. Had Parker been good enough to lead his team to the olympics, he'd be wearing down too.

whottt
04-12-2005, 11:03 PM
How does today become effected by a FUCKIN Gold medal?

I don't get the correlation.

Sorry.

Ask Tim Duncan!

SequSpur
04-12-2005, 11:03 PM
you're a got damn hypocrite then.

T Park
04-12-2005, 11:03 PM
BTW,


Get rid of your Ginobili jersey POSER.


You dont even deserve to go to the fuckin games punk.

IceColdBrewski
04-12-2005, 11:04 PM
Are you a fuckin moron on purpose?

Yes. I thought it was obvious.

T Park
04-12-2005, 11:04 PM
Had Parker been good enough

so now he sucks because he didnt take a team of stiffs from France to the olympics???


unreal.

Aggie Hoopsfan
04-12-2005, 11:05 PM
Gimme a break Sequ, Manu's been playing basketball for three years straight without a break. Tony got three months off last summer, in case you forgot.

Everyone who played in the Olympics for Team USA has missed time this year, save the guys Larry Brown thought were too "young" to play.

Useruser666
04-12-2005, 11:06 PM
Good job Nazr. I hope he can keep this type of play up.

whottt
04-12-2005, 11:06 PM
User...please try and stay on topic!

IceColdBrewski
04-12-2005, 11:08 PM
so now he sucks because he didnt take a team of stiffs from France to the olympics???


unreal.

There you go putting words in my mouth again. I never said Parker sucks.

Damn. You and picnroll need to meet each other. You 2 have lots in common. Desperate to convince everyone that I think Parker sucks. So desperate that you have to make shit up.

I just love my fan club. :lol

Useruser666
04-12-2005, 11:09 PM
User...please try and stay on topic!

Yeah, maybe I should be talking shit with Nazr's play? Naaaa. :lol I'll wait until he averages a double double. :p

SequSpur
04-12-2005, 11:09 PM
Gimme a break Sequ, Manu's been playing basketball for three years straight without a break. Tony got three months off last summer, in case you forgot.

Everyone who played in the Olympics for Team USA has missed time this year, save the guys Larry Brown thought were too "young" to play.


Again, how in the hell does something that was > than 30 days ago have an effect on today?

It defies fucking logic and is what I call a bullshit fuckin excuse.

Ask Bowen if he is fucking tired? Barry's face is black and blue. Parker has been ballin it like a mother fucker. Robert Horry is 50 years old and playing 40 minutes back to back twice!!!!!!!!!

And Manu gets a fucking break because he got a gold medal.

Fuck that. I am sick and tired of the bullshit excuses. I have never seen an NBA player on a championship team sit and fucking whine as much as Manu.

Yes, he is a very good player, but he can't be counted on for the war. He can't make it to every battle.

Fuck that.

ChumpDumper
04-12-2005, 11:10 PM
Multi-agenda cluster fuck.

Gotta love it.

whottt
04-12-2005, 11:11 PM
Hedo>Manu :rolleyes

SequSpur
04-12-2005, 11:11 PM
CD, thanks for your 2 cents. Fuckin great.

ChumpDumper
04-12-2005, 11:12 PM
Barry < 10mpg

ChumpDumper
04-12-2005, 11:13 PM
And blow me.

SequSpur
04-12-2005, 11:14 PM
WTF? Barry? Did you sign in on the short bus, because you're stupid.

WTF does Barry have to do with it?

Manu is the one sitting out games with bullshit injuries.

ChumpDumper
04-12-2005, 11:15 PM
:lol

Aggie Hoopsfan
04-12-2005, 11:16 PM
Again, how in the hell does something that was > than 30 days ago have an effect on today?

In probably the most physically demanding sport in the world, it means a lot. Either quit hitting the bottle so fucking hard on game night or get a clue.

smeagol
04-12-2005, 11:18 PM
My three week old twins > Sequ

T Park
04-12-2005, 11:18 PM
This is as intelligent as he gets.

SequSpur
04-12-2005, 11:20 PM
In probably the most physically demanding sport in the world, it means a lot. Either quit hitting the bottle so fucking hard on game night or get a clue.

Baseball, Football, Soccer > Basketball.

3 games a week? You play 30 minutes a night. A commercial timeout every 5 minutes, a 30 minute half time. Travel in luxury, stay in 5 star hotels, Eat at Red Lobster, Drive expensive cars........

Give me a break.

T Park
04-12-2005, 11:22 PM
the stupidity goes even lower for the midget bus.

ChumpDumper
04-12-2005, 11:22 PM
Really took care of business tonight, eh Sequ? Must've been a whole 15 minutes.

SequSpur
04-12-2005, 11:24 PM
Yeah, Manu played great tonight. Maybe he can get enough energy to play every other playoff game.

You guys keep flappin your asses, because he pulls this shit again next year and one day the criticism will come to fruition and he might be gone for whats known as pussery.

T Park
04-12-2005, 11:25 PM
Your an idiot.

Aggie Hoopsfan
04-12-2005, 11:26 PM
Baseball is a pussy sport. You stand around for 3/4 of the game. Unless you're a pitcher, catcher, or first base, your action is pretty limited. They get all the nice travel, cars, etc. nonsense that you cite.

Football has one game a week, same for soccer. Football also gets all the cute little tv timeouts, hotel travel, expensive cars, etc. and they get 30 seconds between plays too to rest.

I might give soccer equal billing, but most teams only play once a week, so they've got a little more time to recover.

whottt
04-12-2005, 11:28 PM
Uh...in basketball, football and soccer you don't have someone throwing a hard object 100MPH at your head....

More guys have died on a baseball diamond than all the other pro sports combined...

smeagol
04-12-2005, 11:33 PM
Manu is a pussy . . . that's precious.

You are fucking retarded.

The examples you just gave are fucking retarded.

90% of your posts are fucking retarded.

Aggie Hoopsfan
04-12-2005, 11:38 PM
That doesn't relate as much with physical demands as it does the equipment and environment contributing to a potentially fatal environment, and those plays are few and far between.

The average NBA athlete exerts more energy in an average 20 seconds of play than anyone in any other sport in the world.

The typical football play is 7-9 seconds, with half a minute pause between plays. Soccer there is a lot of lateral and backwards passing for regrouping. The typical baseball play is also under 10 seconds, with the only plays being longer are maybe triples and inside the park homeruns.

smeagol
04-12-2005, 11:43 PM
[QUOTE=SequSpur]Baseball, Football, Soccer > Basketball.QUOTE]
Baseball?????

Are you this stupid?

SequSpur
04-12-2005, 11:45 PM
Baseball teams get 3 days off a month. NBA teams get about 17 days off.

So yes.

SequSpur
04-12-2005, 11:47 PM
That doesn't relate as much with physical demands as it does the equipment and environment contributing to a potentially fatal environment, and those plays are few and far between.

The average NBA athlete exerts more energy in an average 20 seconds of play than anyone in any other sport in the world.

The typical football play is 7-9 seconds, with half a minute pause between plays. Soccer there is a lot of lateral and backwards passing for regrouping. The typical baseball play is also under 10 seconds, with the only plays being longer are maybe triples and inside the park homeruns.


Since only about 5 teams in the NBA play on both ends of the court, I think your stats are a little off.

Because actually most players run down the court in 2 seconds, take 20 seconds off, then run for 2 more seconds and take another 20 seconds off.

Bowen plays defense and runs down the court and stands in the corner.

Duncan guards the post on one end and then runs to the other to post up on the block, usually gets fouled and theres another 3 minutes of rest.

Come on. I am not buying it.

T Park
04-12-2005, 11:49 PM
Baseball teams get 3 days off a month


You dont know shit about baseball.

Fuck man, those stand around and dont do shit in the outfield, other than that sit on the bench??

Fuck no.

Baseball players have it the easiest.

Hardest thing in baseball is batting, and standing up to a pitch.

So, No retard.

T Park
04-12-2005, 11:50 PM
Come on. I am not buying it.

because you have a brain the size of a cricket.

SequSpur
04-12-2005, 11:51 PM
You dont know shit about baseball.

Fuck man, those stand around and dont do shit in the outfield, other than that sit on the bench??

Fuck no.

Baseball players have it the easiest.

Hardest thing in baseball is batting, and standing up to a pitch.

So, No retard.


Ask Derek Jeter how the ball off the face felt. Next.

T Park
04-12-2005, 11:52 PM
Cause he was too dumb to get out of the way of a ball that means its harder to play than basketball???


God, it is true.

Brain size = Height.

Solid D
04-12-2005, 11:55 PM
2-0 as a Spurs' starter. :hat Was it 3 or 4 dunks tonight?

http://www.nba.com/media/spurs/nazr-mohammed_300_050412.jpg

howbouthemspurs
04-13-2005, 12:00 AM
Nazr is going to be key in the playoffs. I think hes going to do great..

SequSpur
04-13-2005, 12:01 AM
In basketball only 5 players play. One or Two play 40 minutes, a few play 30, most play between 10 and 15 and a few never leave the chair.

Now how is this tougher than Football, Baseball and Soccer? or Hockey?

smeagol
04-13-2005, 12:13 AM
Again . . . baseball?

Are you serious or are you this stupid?

How can you comapre basketball, a sport where you are running 100% of the time you are on the floor, to baseball, a fucking passtime, where you swing a bat a couple of times and the most you run is a couple hundred yards.

Even hurling or curling or whatever the fuck that sport the Canadians invented is more demanding than baseball.

Look at some of the baseball players, for chrissake. They are fucking fat!

whottt
04-13-2005, 12:17 AM
They are fucking fat!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/news/2001/05/30/sayitaintso_bucks/traylor_all.jpg

whottt
04-13-2005, 12:19 AM
http://espn.starwave.com/i/magazine/new/tony_siragusa_a.jpg

whottt
04-13-2005, 12:20 AM
I couldn't find any pictures of fat soccer players but I bet there are some! There's got to be a couple of tubby goalies...

I'd try and get the fatest guy I could find...probably.

smeagol
04-13-2005, 12:21 AM
whottt, you couldn'y find fat baseball players?

smeagol
04-13-2005, 12:23 AM
The funny thing is that Manu just dropped 30 points, 7 boards and three steals and Sequ can't stop bitching.

Its hopeless.

whottt
04-13-2005, 12:24 AM
Definitely...you are right that there are fat baseball players...a lot of pitchers especially...but other sports do have them...Football probably has more fat guys than any other sport...I am not really trying to get into this argument tween you and Segu...

You're still my boy smeagol...

...was just sayin'.....

Solid D
04-13-2005, 12:33 AM
Football Forum.

whottt
04-13-2005, 12:36 AM
Aww smeagol, don't get pissed...I think Sequ is a douche for his Manu hate too....But there are a lot lof fat athletes in most pro sports.

Solid D
04-13-2005, 12:41 AM
In basketball only 5 players play. One or Two play 40 minutes, a few play 30, most play between 10 and 15 and a few never leave the chair.

Now how is this tougher than Football, Baseball and Soccer? or Hockey?

When the Tee-Ball baseball sits higher on the Tee for you than for the other kids, I suppose it could be a little "tougher".

SLOVENIAN 8
04-13-2005, 02:22 AM
really good games from nazr, but if Spurs will play with Miami, Houston or Phoenix?? Nazr vs. Shaq or Yao i dont know how would be. Defens??

Streakyshooter08
04-13-2005, 04:38 AM
I don't know if it helps but there has been an examination at my university about which sport is the hardest. It was based on different aspects like how much you are running, how hard it is for your joints (I don't know if its the right word für ankle, wrist), muscles, condition... they came to the conclusion that every sport is the hard for a certain part of the body and that you can't really compare sports in general. Football is different to soccer, soccer is different to basketball.

So, there is no hardest sport, just different sport. They also found out that a soccer player doesn't run more than a BB player does. BB is more about changing direction, so its harder for ankles and knees and so on...

So, Sequ, you are probably wrong. Basketball is as hard as every other sport, just in a different way.

Rummpd
04-13-2005, 06:01 AM
Back to the topic I have been shouting for weeks to give him a chance, one does not go from a 12 and 8 guy to nothing sitting on a Spurs bench.

Useruser666
04-13-2005, 07:33 AM
Ok, I know this is wrong to do, but....

Football: Short bursts of extreme energy. Can take a toll on body do to impact injuries.

Basketball: Constant movement with sporadic bursts of energy, sometimes extreme. Injuries can occur do to jumping and planting of feet and legs. Not much contact.

Baseball: Little movement, except for sporadic bursts of energy. Frequency depends upon position. Right fielder to pitcher is order from least energy to most that will likely be expended by a player. Injury to ball strikes in at bat situations is possible, and although may be severe, is not regularly occuring.

Soccer: Constant running movement, in all cases except for goalie. Goalie may have extreme bursts of energy, or quick constant movement for brief periods of time. Forwards/sweepers will expend most amount of energy as the travel the farthest distances up and down the field of play. Injuries common to running and jumping common. Also accidental and sometimes intentional collisions between players may happen. (Soccer can be more dangerous to the fans!)

Hockey: Constant movement for all players except goalie. Extreme bursts of energy expended regularly. Injuries from impacts often occur. Player to player body hits. Stick to player hits. Player to player and wall hits. Puck to player hits. Players fighting.

I've played every sport I just listed except hockey. I'd say football has the most regular risk of getting injured seriously, while hockey leads to more injuries overall.

In order of endurence (High to low):

Basketball
Hockey
Soccer
Football
Baseball

In order of injury risk (high to low):

Football
Hockey
Soccer
Basketball
Baseball

Jimcs50
04-13-2005, 07:47 AM
Again, how in the hell does something that was > than 30 days ago have an effect on today?

It defies fucking logic and is what I call a bullshit fuckin excuse.

Ask Bowen if he is fucking tired? Barry's face is black and blue. Parker has been ballin it like a mother fucker. Robert Horry is 50 years old and playing 40 minutes back to back twice!!!!!!!!!

And Manu gets a fucking break because he got a gold medal.

Fuck that. I am sick and tired of the bullshit excuses. I have never seen an NBA player on a championship team sit and fucking whine as much as Manu.

Yes, he is a very good player, but he can't be counted on for the war. He can't make it to every battle.

Fuck that.

Sequ, what member on the Spurs plays with the intensity and passion without regard to his body for every second he is on the floor?

What Spur always runs full speed back with an opponent on a fast break even though he knows the guy has no chance of being run down from behind?

Manu is that guy.

If every Spur played the way he does, they would all miss 14 games a year because they would all be injured or exhausted.

How can you not know this????

Taco
04-13-2005, 07:57 AM
Before these past two games I was ready to leave Nazr off the Playoff Roster

But was I wrong!!!

Go Nazr!!!

Ishta
04-13-2005, 08:29 AM
Before these past two games I was ready to leave Nazr off the Playoff Roster

But was I wrong!!!

Go Nazr!!!

I too admit I was a Nazr doubter.. I guess the jury is pretty much in now at least on my part. He did great last night! I also thought he should have stayed off the playoff roster, but after last night NO FUCKING WAY WILL HE BE LEFT OFF. His rebounding is awesome. I'm wondering though, do you think Rasho will be coming back sooner, or later than first thought? I'm guessing LATER... :angel

benjirh
04-13-2005, 08:51 AM
I have no problem for people getting on Nazr or Barry for crappy games, I do that and I think it is acceptable. What is dumb is when people jump all over these guys and claim they are horrible players and need to be cut or traded. Get a clue and realistic expectations. Also learn how the game of basketball works! Not everyone scores 25 points or grabs 10 rebounds on a daily basis. Actually only a few do either and they are the top 1 or 2 players on the team. Neither Nazr or Barry are. Could they both be more consistent productive players, yes. Do I expect either to be starters when everyone is healthy, no.

Taco
04-13-2005, 12:55 PM
I did not get to see last nights game but during the highlights when Manu Tipped in a basket you can see Nazr in the background throwing somebody off and he(trailblazer) landed on the floor


What happened?

Solid D
04-13-2005, 02:49 PM
Nazr and Przybilla had been battling under the boards, back and forth, and when Manu caught it one-handed and put it back in, Nazr threw Przybilla's arm off of him and Joe "over-emphasized" it by throwing himself to the floor.

Aggie Hoopsfan
04-13-2005, 05:54 PM
Sequ, I guess I gave you too much credit for actually having a brain.

I used to play baseball, soccer, and hoops growing up. I quit baseball because it was boring, there's long periods of inaction with brief periods of activity for 2-3 guys if that.

When a baseball player is on offense, the most he'll ever have with him is 3 guys, but that's very rare. Everyone else is sitting on their ass.

I'll give you soccer takes as much endurance as hoops does, but if you take the full mental and physical stamina and raw strength and power required into account, hoops is tops, easy.

tlongII
04-13-2005, 06:23 PM
I hate Nazr!

FilSpursFan
04-13-2005, 06:42 PM
I'm starting to like Nazr now since the GSW game. I hope he plays that way till playoffs. And I hope Big Dog's going to do a lot more too!

Phenomanul
04-13-2005, 06:46 PM
Ok, I know this is wrong to do, but....

Football: Short bursts of extreme energy. Can take a toll on body do to impact injuries.

Basketball: Constant movement with sporadic bursts of energy, sometimes extreme. Injuries can occur do to jumping and planting of feet and legs. Not much contact.

Baseball: Little movement, except for sporadic bursts of energy. Frequency depends upon position. Right fielder to pitcher is order from least energy to most that will likely be expended by a player. Injury to ball strikes in at bat situations is possible, and although may be severe, is not regularly occuring.

Soccer: Constant running movement, in all cases except for goalie. Goalie may have extreme bursts of energy, or quick constant movement for brief periods of time. Forwards/sweepers will expend most amount of energy as the travel the farthest distances up and down the field of play. Injuries common to running and jumping common. Also accidental and sometimes intentional collisions between players may happen. (Soccer can be more dangerous to the fans!)

Hockey: Constant movement for all players except goalie. Extreme bursts of energy expended regularly. Injuries from impacts often occur. Player to player body hits. Stick to player hits. Player to player and wall hits. Puck to player hits. Players fighting.

I've played every sport I just listed except hockey. I'd say football has the most regular risk of getting injured seriously, while hockey leads to more injuries overall.

In order of endurence (High to low):

Basketball
Hockey
Soccer
Football
Baseball

In order of injury risk (high to low):

Football
Hockey
Soccer
Basketball
Baseball

You forgot to mention playtime.

In soccer you don't get subbed for rest. In hockey, Basketball, and Football you do. Stamina is not really required for Baseball so they are not even worth comparing.

Having played all the sports above: three at collegiate level the other at intramural level (albeit at M.I.T.). I would say Soccer demands more out of the body than Basketball. There are sequences when BAM BAM BAM successive bursts of speed are required and you have no time, or rule allocation to call a time out... If it was near the start of the season and my stamina was not in peak form, I would resort to kicking the ball out of the field as far as possible to get a quick breather.

Now if a star basketball player like LeBron or A.I. who play 48 minutes per game get little to no rest time then I would agree that the demand would be equal or be of negligible difference.

jalbre6
04-13-2005, 07:02 PM
You forgot to mention playtime.

In soccer you don't get subbed for rest. In hockey, Basketball, and Football you do. Stamina is not really required for Baseball so they are not even worth comparing.

Having played all the sports above: three at collegiate level the other at intramural level (albeit at M.I.T.). I would say Soccer demands more out of the body than Basketball. There are sequences when BAM BAM BAM successive bursts of speed are required and you have no time, or rule allocation to call a time out... If it was near the start of the season and my stamina was not in peak form, I would resort to kicking the ball out of the field as far as possible to get a quick breather.

Now if a star basketball player like LeBron or A.I. who play 48 minutes per game get little to no rest time then I would agree that the demand was equal or be of negligible difference.

I played IM basketball and soccer as well in college, and I'd never really played organized soccer before. Actually, in high school we football players thought that soccer players played their sport because they didn't have the balls to come get hit with the rest of us.

I was wrong. Soccer was the most draining sport I've ever played. The worst part was that our team was coed, and we'd let the girls (and we had several that played in high school and were much better than the guys) use the substitutions becuase there were more of them on the team.

And I know exactly what you're talking about by kicking the ball as far upfield as possible to get a breather.

SequSpur
04-13-2005, 09:27 PM
Sequ, I guess I gave you too much credit for actually having a brain.

I used to play baseball, soccer, and hoops growing up. I quit baseball because it was boring, there's long periods of inaction with brief periods of activity for 2-3 guys if that.

When a baseball player is on offense, the most he'll ever have with him is 3 guys, but that's very rare. Everyone else is sitting on their ass.

I'll give you soccer takes as much endurance as hoops does, but if you take the full mental and physical stamina and raw strength and power required into account, hoops is tops, easy.

We are talking professional sports, not your coed softball team.

Aggie Hoopsfan
04-13-2005, 10:20 PM
Ouch, I'm talking through HS. Soccer is the only one that approaches the level of basketball.

The rest are distant pretenders when it comes to physical demands of the game.