Rampage Jackson done with fighting

[BlackSwordsMan]

http://www.aroundtheoctagon.com/?p=2444

[dallaskd]

man i hope this isnt true. btw im changing the thread title

[Evan]

I don't believe it. Dude is just pissed.

[djohn14]

I call Bull Shit!

[Evan]

however...fuck him for backing out of that fight and ruining TUF.

[desflood]

however...fuck him for backing out of that fight and ruining TUF.
:tu

[Rip-Hamilton32]

i hope its not true, Page has become one of my favorites

[BlackSwordsMan]

with anderson moving up in weight do you blame him

[Stringer_Bell]

After reading the blog post attributed to him, it's hard for me to criticize Rampage's decisions even though as a fan I'm disappointed. I definitely think he's doing this to get Dana's attention though, hopefully it'll work out and we'll see him fight again.

[desflood]

He's convinced himself that his Hollywood career is about to launch. When it (most likely) doesn't go the way he plans, he'll be back in the UFC.

[dbreiden83080]

Obviously he and Dana need to do some talking here. And Dana better do it, because having Page on the sidelines is not good for MMA or the UFC. I expect after he gets done with this movie, they will work it out. He's not done figting, he's too young and he can still make too much money, fighting a few more years..

[BlackSwordsMan]

he's the next cung le

[dbreiden83080]

I's clearly just a pissing contest with him and Dana.

He wants to do this movie, Dana doesn't and since Dana has been bashing him for it in the press Page is mad as hell... Not saying Page is right, because he did bail on the fight for this, but this is just a pissing contest between him and Dana if you ask me..

No way Page isn't fighting in the UFC again after this movie is over..

[LEONARD]

This will blow over...they'll kiss and make-up...

[ATRAIN]

If Dana did not have a problem with the movie then he should have said so over the phone, not going on a blog and talk shit like the little bitch he is.

True but Dana isnt one to keep quiet and he is part of the reason why Fedor will never sign with UFC I think. On that note though Dana is a big reason why MMA is where it is today so for that I dont hate the guy.

[ATRAIN]

Damn all the fighters I have picked as my favs are slowly letting me down. First the Pit bull and his glass chin. Now page!! Whats next Lesnar being busted for HGH??? FML!!!!

[ATRAIN]

At least I still have Machida and Anderson Silva

[lebomb]

Why is Dana such a dick? He doesnt get along with any of his fighters it appears. I know he is the boss, but he talks WAY too much shit. One day, one of these MMA guys are gonna knock his block off. I sure hope Dana knows MMA also, so he can defend himself.

[ATRAIN]

Why is Dana such a dick? He doesnt get along with any of his fighters it appears. I know he is the boss, but he talks WAY too much shit. One day, one of these MMA guys are gonna knock his block off. I sure hope Dana knows MMA also, so he can defend himself.

He actually does know some and has done some training. Im sure he could hold up against some guys. Yeah he is a dick but he gets shit done.

[lebomb]

Yeah he is a dick but he gets shit done.

Yep, he get things done, but he just talks WAY too much shit. He reminds me of Mark Cuban.

[ATRAIN]

Yep, he get things done, but he just talks WAY too much shit. He reminds me of Mark Cuban.

ok he isnt THAT bad lol. Yeah I agree he talks too much shit and should put his foot in his mouth from time to time but he can also humble up a bit at times. I loved it when he was talking about Kimbo and said he hopes Kimbo makes him eat some crow for all the shit he talked about him lol.

[lebomb]

I loved it when he was talking about Kimbo and said he hopes Kimbo makes him eat some crow for all the shit he talked about him lol.

Kimbo may not be that good in MMA..........but, Im sure Dana would NOT like to meet him after hours in the alley. Kimbo would murder him. Well, at least IMHO. :ihit

[ATRAIN]

Kimbo may not be that good in MMA..........but, Im sure Dana would NOT like to meet him after hours in the alley. Kimbo would murder him. Well, at least IMHO. :ihit

Well maybe not and I dont think any one of use would. I give Kimbo credit he is trying and is now on ultimate fighter so he had to humble up to even do this. Im rooting for him, I just hope UFC doesnt try to spoon feed him to the finals.

[LEONARD]

Well maybe not and I dont think any one of use would. I give Kimbo credit he is trying and is now on ultimate fighter so he had to humble up to even do this. Im rooting for him, I just hope UFC doesnt try to spoon feed him to the finals.

The UFC is picking the matchups on TUF?

[ATRAIN]

The UFC is picking the matchups on TUF?

No but they can tell the coaches who to pick im sure.

[desflood]

I'm pretty sure Spike TV has the final say on mostly everything. Otherwise, Junie Browning would have been off his season pretty early. Spike wanted to keep him because he got ratings.

[ATRAIN]

I'm pretty sure Spike TV has the final say on mostly everything. Otherwise, Junie Browning would have been off his season pretty early. Spike wanted to keep him because he got ratings.

Yeah I think your right on that.

[dbreiden83080]

True but Dana isnt one to keep quiet and he is part of the reason why Fedor will never sign with UFC I think. On that note though Dana is a big reason why MMA is where it is today so for that I dont hate the guy.

Dana has backed off some lately with the mouth, i mean look at how he and Tito kissed and made up. This goes 1 of 2 ways

Dana rips Page in the press talking about his legal mess and how they stood bye him, how dare he pull this shit??

or

They privately talk this out, and come to an agreement on when he is coming back, without any more war of words in the press.. I'm betting Lorenzo is in his ear telling him to not go overboard on this one with the temper..


This will blow over...they'll kiss and make-up...

I'm sure they will, the A-Team is not out until June of 2010, so what is he going to do after he is done with his filming in the next 4-6 weeks? It's not like offers will be rolling in, at least until people see how the movie and his role in it turn out. During that time, this will blow over..

[Heath Ledger]

Dana White should fight Vince McMahon that would be the shit.

[ATRAIN]

Dana White should fight Vince McMahon that would be the shit.

It put my money on White

[dbreiden83080]

Dana's response..


http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/9/23/1051483/dana-white-bids-rampage-jackson

"Rampage is a grown man," White told Carmichael Dave on the radio station KHTK (audio here). "He's acting like a baby right now, but he's a grown man. If he wants to be in the movie business, Rampage, good luck to you, man. I hope he makes it big, and I'm not being sarcastic. ... I hope the movie thing works out for him. If that's what he truly wants to do, and that's what he feels and that's what he thinks his career is, I wish him all the luck in the world."

White said he didn't get any advance warning from Jackson about the surprise retirement announcement and that he still likes Jackson personally, but that if Jackson wants to leave the UFC, White can't stop him.

"I just found out, too," White said. "Rampage has been a friend of ours. We really like Rampage. I'm not going to get into the battle of who's done what for who and all that stuff. We've done a lot for him and yes, he's been there and fought. The guys who come in here, they're fighters. That's what they do. We give them fights and they fight. And they make money and we make money. That's the way it works."

This will work out...

[Evan]

Don't forget rampage is fucking over Rashad here with a big pay day and also ruining tuf by backing out. Dana has every right to be pissed and so should the fans. Does Dana have a stupid mouth? Yeah.... But he's right here.

[Evan]

I'm pretty sure Spike TV has the final say on mostly everything. Otherwise, Junie Browning would have been off his season pretty early. Spike wanted to keep him because he got ratings.

Yeah...I think Spike has way more control than we can imagine. I'm pretty sure they even have say on about half the slots for Ultimate Fight Night. Spike isn't going to pay the UFC 100 and let them have complete control over programming.

[ATRAIN]

Don't forget rampage is fucking over Rashad here with a big pay day and also ruining tuf by backing out. Dana has every right to be pissed and so should the fans. Does Dana have a stupid mouth? Yeah.... But he's right here.

I hate Shad I and am laughing a bit at him getting screwed over but I really wanted to see page drop his ass. DAMN YOU PAGE DAMN YOU!! For this I am officially boycotting the A team movie (not like anyone was going to see that piece of shit anyways)

[ATRAIN]

Yeah...I think Spike has way more control than we can imagine. I'm pretty sure they even have say on about half the slots for Ultimate Fight Night. Spike isn't going to pay the UFC 100 and let them have complete control over programming.

Thats what worries me about Kimbo, I dont want a free ride for him into the finals.

[dbreiden83080]

Don't forget rampage is fucking over Rashad here with a big pay day and also ruining tuf by backing out. Dana has every right to be pissed and so should the fans. Does Dana have a stupid mouth? Yeah.... But he's right here.

Agreed but do you really care who did what wrong? I don't.. Lets just get Page back in the UFC pronto..

[dbreiden83080]

I hate Shad I and am laughing a bit at him getting screwed over but I really wanted to see page drop his ass. DAMN YOU PAGE DAMN YOU!! For this I am officially boycotting the A team movie (not like anyone was going to see that piece of shit anyways)

Rashad and Page will fight, i'm sure of it.. In a few weeks i would not be surprised if this is all worked out.. Page And Evans spent 6 weeks going at it on the show, they almost got into a brawl in the stands at UFC 100. This is just about Dana and Page, nothing more..

[ATRAIN]

Rashad and Page will fight, i'm sure of it.. In a few weeks i would not be surprised if this is all worked out.. Page And Evans spent 6 weeks going at it on the show, they almost got into a brawl in the stands at UFC 100. This is just about Dana and Page, nothing more..

Pissing contest?

[Evan]

Agreed but do you really care who did what wrong? I don't.. Lets just get Page back in the UFC pronto..

I kinda do on this one...this is a big deal...Rampage is screwing over the fans and Rashad pretty bad here when he back away from the fight.

In the end I don't care as long as he comes back, which he will. I am 100% sure.

[ATRAIN]

I kinda do on this one...this is a big deal...Rampage is screwing over the fans and Rashad pretty bad here when he back away from the fight.

In the end I don't care as long as he comes back, which he will. I am 100% sure.

Yeah im pretty sure too.

[dbreiden83080]

I kinda do on this one...this is a big deal...Rampage is screwing over the fans and Rashad pretty bad here when he back away from the fight.

In the end I don't care as long as he comes back, which he will. I am 100% sure.

Well here's the thing, if Page and Dana had a few talks about this, and as Page says he told Dana flat out, how much this meant to him and was given the understanding that Dana was not happy but accepting of it, then went out and bashed him and the movie to the press that would mean Dana lied to Page. Something i know he has done a million times over to fighters, we all know Dana isn't a nice guy or honest, lets not pretend otherwise..

But Page fucked up bad by agreeing to do TUF and then wanting to do this movie role. If he knew the chance might be around the corner to get this movie role then he should have passed on TUF, once he committed to it he needed to stay with that choice. It's clear something set Page off and i think it was Dana's mouth that did it.. So like i said it's just a pissing contest between these 2 guys. I see your point and i don't care about right or wrong, Page just needs to be back,

That's the bottom line..

[Evan]

Well here's the thing, if Page and Dana had a few talks about this, and as Page says he told Dana flat out, how much this meant to him and was given the understanding that Dana was not happy but accepting of it, then went out and bashed him and the movie to the press that would mean Dana lied to Page. Something i know he has done a million times over to fighters, we all know Dana isn't a nice guy or honest, lets not pretend otherwise..

But Page fucked up bad by agreeing to do TUF and then wanting to do this movie role. If he knew the chance might be around the corner to get this movie role then he should have passed on TUF, once he committed to it he needed to stay with that choice. It's clear something set Page off and i think it was Dana's mouth that did it.. So like i said it's just a pissing contest between these 2 guys. I see your point and i don't care about right or wrong, Page just needs to be back,

That's the bottom line..

well said!

Just remember someone like Rashad desperately needs something like TUF to really cash in on PPV's.

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rashad on rampage

Did you hear what Rampage said about leaving the UFC? What do you think about it?
I think that him coming out and saying stuff like that was a bit premature. He's jumping the gun a little bit. Rampage is a very emotional fighter, a very emotional person, and he just let his emotions take over his rational thinking. I think that him and Dana White just probably need to talk it out, and get past it. I think it's just a breakdown in communication.

Dana's the kind of guy who is going to say what is on his mind, maybe without thinking it through all the way, before he said. Rampage is a hothead, as well. You get two tempers like that, go at each other like that, it makes the situation hard to work through.

What are your thoughts on not fighting him?
I'd be disappointed not to fight him. It would be a good fight, a fun fight, but mostly because he talked trash. He got me really angry, and I want to fight him just because of that alone. It's a fight that people want to see. You get your mind wrapped up, and you get your mind so psyched up about fighting a fighter, and then it doesn't happen, it's disappointing.

That's why I hate making a fight personal. At the end of the day, we're professional athletes, and we get paid to do a job. But when you get to fight someone you really want to fight, that's like a bonus. You'd almost do it for free.

[Evan]

Pissing contest?

its kinda like darts but with tinkle.

[dbreiden83080]

I'm willing to bet Lorenzo is talking with Page right now, trying to get this ironed out, he has been a go between in the past..

[angelbelow]

wow looks like im late, but i hope hes not done either. i was so looking forward to him and rashard.

[dbreiden83080]

lakaluva how is this the first time you have ever really talked MMA with us..



Good Stuff.. :toast

[Avitus1]

I hope this isn't true

[Evan]

I've been viewing for some time, just never posted. I use to train at Wild Card Gym, boxing that is, and fell in love with Gracie years ago. MMA is savage, and I wouldn't have it any other way. I watch a lot of previous fights on the link below.:toast

http://www.mmashare.com/brock-lesnar-vs-frank-mir-2---fight-vid-ufc-100-t7033.html

glad you're here dude

[LEONARD]

ESPN scrolled today that Rampage retired...lol

[polandprzem]

ESPN scrolled today that Rampage retired...lol
Today is mma live, we should see

[dbreiden83080]

SI take on it


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/ben_fowlkes/09/24/rampage-white/

Cooler heads did not prevail in the latest Rampage-White chapter


You might think that in a time where everybody has their own Web site, blog and Twitter account, communication between two individuals would be easier. You'd be very, very wrong. If you need proof, just look at the "Rampage" Jackson-Dana White situation. They're two men with a wealth of options for instant communication at their fingertips, yet they still find themselves in a war of words more suited to a junior high school homeroom than a professional sports organization.

It started when Jackson landed a role as B.A. Baracus (you know, the Mr. T character) in the upcoming A-Team movie, requiring him to postpone his grudge match with fellow former champ Rashad Evans. Since the UFC had already filmed an entire season of The Ultimate Fighter to help promote the bout, and since nothing makes White go from zero to livid faster than his fighters leaving the cage for non-pugilistic pursuits, the UFC president did what he always does -- criticize.

White told anyone who would listen that Jackson was a fool for stepping away from guaranteed money in the Octagon for the illusory promise of an acting career. He said that there was simply no way uttering catchphrases while draped in gold chains would make Jackson a Hollywood star. And he's right. If the acting chops Jackson displayed in Midnight Meat Train are any indication, the guy is not going to become the next Laurence Fishburne.

But as is often the case when two people talk past each other, it wasn't just what White said as much as how he said it. He's never been one to parse his words carefully, and when he painted a picture of Jackson as an ignorant jock walking away from the only thing he can do well for paydays that will never materialize, it understandably rubbed Jackson the wrong way. And, since vowing to quit fighting altogether was as easy as posting a sprawling manifesto to his personal Web site, Jackson went ahead and called it quits earlier this week.

Ever write one of those emails where you later wished you'd clicked 'save' instead of 'send'? Then you know what "Rampage" is going through.

Or maybe it hasn't hit him yet. Maybe, with the promise of The A-Team just in front of him, he still believes that his future is in acting. It isn't. Jackson will be back in the cage, probably sooner rather than later. Partly it will be because the UFC doesn't let go that easily once it has its teeth sunk into a money-making draw. Just ask Randy Couture.

But even without the UFC exercising its legal options, Jackson is going to want to fight again. He's going to miss the reliable paychecks from the UFC, and he might even discover that he misses the feeling of stepping into an arena full of screaming fans. Long days in the gym, well, he's probably not the type of guy to ever miss that.

Before Jackson does or says anything he can't take back, he might want to look at the state of Roger Huerta's career. Though not nearly as high-profile a fighter as Jackson, Huerta also wanted to leave fighting for acting. He also got a fairly gimmicky role in a fairly gimmicky action movie. He heard a lot of big promises from Hollywood types and decided he could make more money without putting his body through habitual torture. But now that his movie is done Huerta seems to have discovered that it wasn't a path to instant stardom after all. Now he wants back in the UFC, and after two straight losses his negotiating position isn't what it once was.

Jackson might want to consider that little cautionary tale before he posts any more updates on his website. There's a reason so few pro athletes make successful, prolonged forays into acting, and it isn't a lack of trying.

He might not be ready just yet, but before long he's going to need to sit down with White and talk this out. And for his part, White needs to learn not to badmouth his own fighters, even if they happen to be on his bad side at the moment. In other words, both men need to start thinking before they speak, regardless of the medium they speak in.

When you get a couple of emotionally-driven guys in a dispute, more outlets for communication only mean more chances for them to say something they don't really mean. Or maybe something they do mean, at least for the moment, but definitely shouldn't say. Modern communication technology makes it easy to say something you'll regret, but it's still just as difficult as ever to say you're sorry.

[BlackSwordsMan]

crocop is another that wants to retire

[dbreiden83080]

crocop is another that wants to retire

yeah but Because he can't fight anymore not because he is mad at the boss..

[oligarchy]

Dana's harsh, but damn it if that isn't the truth. How long are giving Rampage to come back? He was already out this year.

[LEONARD]

Update from Rampage...

"The reason why I'm talking about all this is that I feel like this whole situation could have been avoided if UFC would have respected me more & rescheduled the fight about a month or more in my hometown, which I know fights can be rescheduled because of the Matt Hughes & Matt Serra was postponed due to injuries. Instead, Dana went on the internet & started talking bad about my decision. All we had to do was come to a certain type of argreement or understanding, which later came after a lot of trash talk from Dana. My manager flew to Vegas & talked to them & tried to work things out like a MAN. & still I keep quite & I didn't talk trash back on the internet. The only reason why I'm even talking now is because I feel like I owe my fans an explanation because I am a MAN, a real MAN. Yeah I made good money with the UFC more than Pride, but I made both shows more money than they made me. I didn't care too much about Pride treating me like crap cause I was an American in a Japanese company. Now in my own country, I feel like I'm being disrepected. Everything is not about how much money you make. You could be the richest man in the world but if nobody repsects you then it don't mean shit. You can't buy respect. It should be earned. & thats what I'm all about.

Now Rashad wanna put his two cents in. Rashad remains to be a boy under me. He wins a few fights, and some of them I thought the judges fell asleep during the fight & woke up & saw him playing with his nipples & guessed he won. He knocked Chuck Liddel out when Chuck wasn't even the same man anymore. & now he thinks he's on my level. Yeah he talks about how he beat Forrest & I lost. But when I fought Forrest that was the worst Rampage I had ever seen. & I still know in my heart I won that fight. So now he's Mr. All Cocky & says I got a big mouth & talk a lot of smack. If my memory serves me correctly, he's the one that got into my face after the Jardine fight & started talking trash when he was the one that was originally supposed to fight me that night, but he told Dana on the phone he didn't want to fight. He wanted to keep his belt longer. Now, I'm not saying wether or not I would have beaten Machida, but I wouldn't have went out like a bitch like the way he did. So I'm the one that was looking forward to the Rashad fight the most. I have always been a fighter my whole life. As a kid my family treated me like shit which made me the person who I am today. This is why when I meet people I treat people the way I want to be treated (unless they approach me wrong or piss me off). I grew up thinking that I wasn't even important to my family which made me not even care about myself. That's why I can get knee-ed in the face 15 times & come back for more. That's why I can get my legs seriously hurt in a fight & still try to win. Thats why I can get my ribs broken in a fight & not tap out because my whole life I never thought I mattered to anybody or anybody cared about me. But now I have kids that love me & care about me & I'm not used to people caring about me but it feels good! I'm a very loyal person. Wolves are the most loyal animals on the planet. I was very loyal to the UFC, but now I owe all my loyalty to my kids... the ones who really care for me. The majority of my fights on the street I fought for free & they all were with emotion. I am a fighter, I will always be a fighter but my professional fights that were fought with emotion, I ended them all in devestating fashion. I am the wrong fighter that should fight pissed off professionally. I don't even consider it fair. So Rashad says he will fight me for free. I will gladly meet him at any gym & fight him just to shut his mouth up. & I mean that for real!

When I told Dana I did not want my belt back & that I just wanted to make money, it was around the time when they gave me Vanderlei & actually it was around the same time when my mind wasn't right (my mind was at TRUCK status) & that's the way I felt because I felt I had been robbed out of my belt. After the Jardine fight I did want my belt back because my family was so proud of me when I was champion & I want to make my family proud cause now I finally feel like my family cares about me & they accept me & this is what I've been wanting my whole childhood... for my family to like me. If I got to beat some ass for my family to like me, so be it. But now, I'm a grown man & I'll be damned if anybody disrespects me. I'm not having it, it's not happening!"

[dbreiden83080]

Jesus Christ Dana, just go say you're sorry and reschedule the fucking Evans fight. What the fuck is going on here? It's obvious Page wants to fight he is just mad at Dana for running his mouth about him, bury the hatchet like you did with Tito and get it over with..