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Cry Havoc
09-23-2009, 12:45 PM
http://www.examiner.com/x-13096-Cincinnati-Gay-Relationships-Examiner~y2009m9d23-Does-porn-make-you-gay

Well known Republican conservative Michael Schwartz, who is also the Chief of Staff for Oklahoma Senator Tom Coburn, told attendees at the annual Value Voters Summit to "keep pornography away from young boys because it will turn them gay" the Washington Independent has reported.

Mr. Schwartz made his comments during a panel discussion titled "The New Masculinity" on the final day of the conservative meet up, which was held this year at the Omni Shoreham Hotel in Washington D.C. Schwartz went on to tell his audience that “Pornography is a blight. It is a disaster. It is one of those silent diseases in our society that we haven't been able to overcome very well. It is my observation that boys of that age (referring to adolescent youth) have less tolerance for homosexuality than just about any other class of people. They speak badly about homosexuality and that's because they don't want to be that way. They don't want to fall into it.”

Mr. Schwartz also spoke to the crowd about an AIDS activist and "ex-gay" friend who told him; “All pornography is homosexual pornography, because all pornography turns your sexual drive inwards.” He used this statement from his "ex-gay" friend to attempt to justify his point that; "If you tell an 11-year-old boy about that, do you think he's going to want to get a copy of Playboy? I'm pretty sure he'll lose interest. That's the last thing he wants! It's a good point, and it's a good thing to teach young people" he commented.

At one point during this rant, Schwartz spoke even more directly by saying; "If it doesn’t turn you homosexual, it at least renders you less capable of loving your wife. And it’s something you need to be healed of.”

Understandably Mr. Schwartz' comments fired up bloggers across the country who collectively shook their heads to these ridiculous insights.

Dan Savage, editor of the Seattle publication The Stranger, didn't hold back with his response saying that "These people are absolutely terrified of human sexuality. They're afraid of women having control of their own reproductive systems, they're afraid of pornography, they're afraid of masturbation, of birth control, and of homosexuality". He went on to add that "What's most amazing about this particular lie is how easily disproved it is. If pornography and masturbation makes you gay how come all men aren't gay?” Savage asks. Fair enough question it seems. There are a lot of straight men out there who enjoy porn, and it hasn't turned them gay yet!

The Value Voters Summit is an annual event for Conservatives sponsored by the Family Research Council, which is a conservative, Christian right non-profit lobbying organization. The FRC's mission statement explains that the Family Research Council exists to provide educational materials to the general public concerning traditional Judeo-Christian family values and ethics, and information concerning legislative and judicial developments affecting family life and values.

Is human sexuality really so frightening that people have to employ tactics to scare "the gay" out of someone? Homosexuality is not caused by pornography. The type of porn that someone may choose to view is already determined by their sexual interests, not the other way around. Many people may not like pornography, but it certainly isn't a magic spell that turns people gay when they view it. Using this as a reason for why people should not watch pornography is ridiculous and offensive in the context that it is being used. In the 1950's these same types of people believed, and preached to the masses that masturbation would make you go blind. Stating that pornography turns people gay is applying this same "out-of-touch with reality" type of logic. The only thing more laughable than this nonsense, is the fact that the folks who endorse this type of brainwashing actually believe the crap that they are perpetuating.

Below is a video of this man in action. (Mr. Schwartz begins his anti-porn/anti-gay tirade at the 2:47 mark) Enjoy!

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coyotes_geek
09-23-2009, 12:48 PM
Uh-oh. Family values alert! Save us Red Team! Save us from ourselves!

Wild Cobra
09-23-2009, 01:01 PM
Wow...

If only you were offended when liberals make outlandish statement.

I laughed at the statement "Well known Republican conservative Michael Schwartz." He's not very well known! The starting of a meaningless article.

Cry Havoc
09-23-2009, 01:03 PM
Wow...

If only you were offended when liberals make outlandish statement.

Who said I was offended? I have a mat from Tom Smykowski to sell you.


I laughed at the statement "Well known Republican conservative Michael Schwartz." He's not very well known! The starting of a meaningless article.

:lol

jack sommerset
09-23-2009, 01:20 PM
Those filthy faggots say they were born that way. They can't help there perversions. Atleast that is what they say.

ChumpDumper
09-23-2009, 01:21 PM
Those filthy faggots say they were born that way. They can't help there perversions.Do you watch porn?

jack sommerset
09-23-2009, 01:24 PM
Do you watch porn?

Chumps about to get his jerk on. :lol

rjv
09-23-2009, 01:29 PM
it was just a matter of time before this thread sunk to the depths of sheer absurdity.

ChumpDumper
09-23-2009, 01:31 PM
Chumps about to get his jerk on. :lolIt's just a question. Do you watch porn?

Cry Havoc
09-23-2009, 01:38 PM
it was just a matter of time before this thread sunk to the depths of sheer absurdity.

jack and WC have their own unique way of making that happen.

NoOptionB
09-23-2009, 01:40 PM
wtf!? Chump told me midget pr0n would give me super powers. :wow

jack sommerset
09-23-2009, 01:41 PM
It's just a question. Do you watch porn?

It's never "just a question" with you. It's a series of questions that leads you down a path to fullfill whatever fantasy you conjure up in that whacked out brain of yours. I refuse to help you fill that spank bank of yours talking about porn with you. I decline to answer your question. LOL

hope4dopes
09-23-2009, 01:49 PM
wtf!? Chump told me midget pr0n would give me super powers. :wow What....and you bought that.......it didn't do shit for him why'd you think it would help you.

jack sommerset
09-23-2009, 01:50 PM
it was just a matter of time before this thread sunk to the depths of sheer absurdity.

What's absurd is men sticking their KAWKs in and out each others shithole. WTF? Thats SHITHOLE. Shit comes out the hole and these fags stick there dicks in these SHITHOLES. That's absurd. The whole getting married to each other, adopting kids (cuz they can't fucking make them),holding hands, licking there balls and ass,cuddling, having little nicknanames for each other is absurd. Queers are nasty fucks.

balli
09-23-2009, 01:51 PM
You're gay as hell.

jack sommerset
09-23-2009, 01:53 PM
You're gay as hell.

:lol Thats what you got from that.

Sticking with the topic. Porn does not make you gay.

spurs_fan_in_exile
09-23-2009, 01:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKB7vAFTdA8

DarrinS
09-23-2009, 02:09 PM
Does porn make you gay?


If it did, woudn't Barney Frank be trying to pass a bill or something?

hope4dopes
09-23-2009, 02:13 PM
Does porn make you gay?


If it did, woudn't Barney Frank be trying to pass a bill or something?

He's trying to figure out a way he can make money on it first.

mookie2001
09-23-2009, 02:17 PM
It's never "just a question" with you. It's a series of questions that leads you down a path to fullfill whatever fantasy you conjure up
true

just answer the question i asked you, followed by 5 more and then i'll lastword you to death

LnGrrrR
09-23-2009, 03:16 PM
What's absurd is men sticking their KAWKs in and out each others shithole. WTF? Thats SHITHOLE. Shit comes out the hole and these fags stick there dicks in these SHITHOLES. That's absurd. The whole getting married to each other, adopting kids (cuz they can't fucking make them),holding hands, licking there balls and ass,cuddling, having little nicknanames for each other is absurd. Queers are nasty fucks.

Why do you care so much? Hell, I think people who have foot fetishes are weird. I don't obsess about it though.

ChumpDumper
09-23-2009, 03:17 PM
Actually I was just going to bring it back to the topic, but jack said all his porn watching didn't make him gay, so it would have ended there.

TheProfessor
09-23-2009, 03:22 PM
Why do you care so much?
http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2008/03/are_homophobes_aroused_by_homo.php

LnGrrrR
09-23-2009, 03:23 PM
http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2008/03/are_homophobes_aroused_by_homo.php

:lmao

LnGrrrR
09-23-2009, 03:23 PM
A few people who are against the homosexual lifestyle do like to go into VERY graphic detail about the parts they don't like. And for longer than anyone would consider necessary.

Edit: In fact, just remember... one of my good friends use to disparage gays alot... and then came out as one a year or two later after I met her.

boutons_deux
09-23-2009, 03:37 PM
The amount of childish, locker-room, frat-rat slimey owl shit coming out of this "Values" conference clearly indicates what a bunch slime bags the entire conference is.

Attending the conference will turn you into a Christian.

nuclearfm
09-23-2009, 03:40 PM
Wow...

If only you were offended when liberals make outlandish statement.

I laughed at the statement "Well known Republican conservative Michael Schwartz." He's not very well known! The starting of a meaningless article.

He's the chief of staff for Tom Coburn. So you're saying staffers don't matter?
I could have swore you trying to straw man every staffer in the Obama administration.

Nice try deflecting.

Fail.

jman3000
09-23-2009, 03:47 PM
I'd say porn doesn't make you gay... I'd say it makes you pretty straight.

Hey-O.

jack sommerset
09-23-2009, 03:51 PM
A few people who are against the homosexual lifestyle do like to go into VERY graphic detail about the parts they don't like. And for longer than anyone would consider necessary.

Edit: In fact, just remember... one of my good friends use to disparage gays alot... and then came out as one a year or two later after I met her.

:lol This is the end of all gay conversations. The old you must be gay or you will be gay because noone talks about it if they are not gay line. There is no where to go when the pro gay person takes this course of action. Just throw up the white flag and say you are right. It's disgusting.

Race card has same results. You are against healthcare. You must be a racist.You think Obama is a socialist. You must be a racist. Conversation stoppers.

Kori Ellis
09-23-2009, 03:56 PM
...

We get it. You hate gays. But this isn't the place for spreading your hate about it. So please contain yourself or sign up for gayhaters.com or whatever.

Thanks.

ChumpDumper
09-23-2009, 03:58 PM
:lol This is the end of all gay conversations.Probably all of yours since you talk about the acts in such an in-depth manner, so to speak.

mookie2001
09-23-2009, 04:01 PM
ROFL

i dont hate gays kori can i have a spur??

LnGrrrR
09-23-2009, 04:15 PM
:lol This is the end of all gay conversations. The old you must be gay or you will be gay because noone talks about it if they are not gay line. There is no where to go when the pro gay person takes this course of action. Just throw up the white flag and say you are right. It's disgusting.

Race card has same results. You are against healthcare. You must be a racist.You think Obama is a socialist. You must be a racist. Conversation stoppers.

My point is, why do you care if it's disgusting? I mean, I personally think that people who like to pee on each other are wacked out. But if they both enjoy it, why should I care?

jack sommerset
09-23-2009, 04:16 PM
We get it. You hate gays. But this isn't the place for spreading your hate about it. So please contain yourself or sign up for gayhaters.com or whatever.

Thanks.

I'm confused. Do I hate gays and/or am I gay? Oh well time will tell but I certainly will stop talking about it in your forum.

jack sommerset
09-23-2009, 04:17 PM
My point is, why do you care if it's disgusting? I mean, I personally think that people who like to pee on each other are wacked out. But if they both enjoy it, why should I care?

I can't talk about it any longer. I have already been banned from the homer forum. I don't want banned anywhere else. It's that simple.

LnGrrrR
09-23-2009, 04:20 PM
I can't talk about it any longer. I have already been banned from the homer forum. I don't want banned from anywhere else. It's that simple.

Fair enough. Just live and let live Jack. :lol