Spurminator
04-13-2005, 12:21 AM
Here are some numbers to support the Age Limit discussion earlier today. I calculated Games, Minutes Per Game, and Efficiency Ratings for the following:
A) All players who were under 20 years old as of June 15, 1984
B) All 2004-drafted rookies not included in (A)
The numbers somewhat support the theory that more experienced rookies, whether by college or Euro-pro leagues, etc., are more able to contribnute immediately to the team. However, those against the Age Limit could point out that the data is so close it's almost negligible.
(EDIT: Cleaned up code a little bit)
Players born after June 15, 1984
Games MPG EFF/G
LeBron James 75 42.1 28.04
Dwight Howard 76 32.4 17.99
Josh Smith 68 26.8 12.55
Luol Deng 61 27.3 11.77
S. Livingston 25 25.5 11.2
Al Jefferson 65 14.9 8.38
Seb. Telfair 63 18.3 6.51
Trevor Ariza 75 17.1 6.43
Andris Biedrins 25 11.85 6.31
Travis Outlaw 53 12.2 5.85
J.R. Smith 70 23.6 5.51
K. Perkins 55 8.8 5.11
Kris Humphries 61 12.1 4.64
Jackie Butler 3 1.7 3.67
Maciej Lampe 31 8.8 2.39
Peter J. Ramos 6 3.3 1.67
Darko Milicic 33 5.4 1.26
Ha Seung-Jin 14 4.8 1
Pavel Podkolzin 5 2 0.4
Robert Swift 15 3.7 0.27
Ndudi Ebi 0 0 0
Dorell Wright 1 2 -3
Rookies born after June 15, 1984
Games MPG EFF/G
Emeka Okafor 69 35.9 18.48
Andre Iguodala 76 32.7 14.16
Josh Childress 74 28.7 13
Nenad Krstic 70 25.7 11.11
Ben Gordon 77 24.4 9.94
Matt Bonner 77 19.2 8.71
Jameer Nelson 73 19.2 8.61
Andres Nocioni 77 23.1 8.47
A. Varejao 49 15.7 8.35
Chris Duhon 77 26.3 8.26
David Harrison 43 17.7 7.28
Tony Allen 71 16.3 7.23
Viktor Khryapa 26 15.6 6.54
Devin Harris 70 15.4 6.27
Jackson Vroman 40 13.4 5.95
Royal Ivey 56 13 5.35
Rafael Araujo 54 12.3 5.3
Beno Udrih 75 14 5.17
Delonte West 34 13.2 4.91
B. Robinson 31 10.6 4.13
Donta Smith 33 10.7 4
Kirk Snyder 63 12.4 3.48
Antonio Burks 20 10 3.38
Sasha Vujacic 31 9.9 2.87
Kevin Martin 41 9.6 2.66
Lionel Chalmers 34 12.4 2.44
Justin Reed 20 4.4 2
Pape Sow 21 6.4 1.64
Luke Jackson 10 4.3 1.6
Andre Emmett 8 3.5 0.38
Under-20 Summary
Avg Games Played: 40
MPG: 13.9
EFF/G: 6.27
Players: 22
Players above median EFF (combined): 10
20-and-over Rookie Summary
Avg Games Played: 50
MPG: 15.9
EFF/G: 6.39
Players: 30
Players above median EFF (combined): 16
I'm probably missing some players that may be rookies this year but were drafted a previous year. I'm amazed that there seems to be no site with a one page reference for "rookies."
*Stats apply to all games prior to April 12, 2005
A) All players who were under 20 years old as of June 15, 1984
B) All 2004-drafted rookies not included in (A)
The numbers somewhat support the theory that more experienced rookies, whether by college or Euro-pro leagues, etc., are more able to contribnute immediately to the team. However, those against the Age Limit could point out that the data is so close it's almost negligible.
(EDIT: Cleaned up code a little bit)
Players born after June 15, 1984
Games MPG EFF/G
LeBron James 75 42.1 28.04
Dwight Howard 76 32.4 17.99
Josh Smith 68 26.8 12.55
Luol Deng 61 27.3 11.77
S. Livingston 25 25.5 11.2
Al Jefferson 65 14.9 8.38
Seb. Telfair 63 18.3 6.51
Trevor Ariza 75 17.1 6.43
Andris Biedrins 25 11.85 6.31
Travis Outlaw 53 12.2 5.85
J.R. Smith 70 23.6 5.51
K. Perkins 55 8.8 5.11
Kris Humphries 61 12.1 4.64
Jackie Butler 3 1.7 3.67
Maciej Lampe 31 8.8 2.39
Peter J. Ramos 6 3.3 1.67
Darko Milicic 33 5.4 1.26
Ha Seung-Jin 14 4.8 1
Pavel Podkolzin 5 2 0.4
Robert Swift 15 3.7 0.27
Ndudi Ebi 0 0 0
Dorell Wright 1 2 -3
Rookies born after June 15, 1984
Games MPG EFF/G
Emeka Okafor 69 35.9 18.48
Andre Iguodala 76 32.7 14.16
Josh Childress 74 28.7 13
Nenad Krstic 70 25.7 11.11
Ben Gordon 77 24.4 9.94
Matt Bonner 77 19.2 8.71
Jameer Nelson 73 19.2 8.61
Andres Nocioni 77 23.1 8.47
A. Varejao 49 15.7 8.35
Chris Duhon 77 26.3 8.26
David Harrison 43 17.7 7.28
Tony Allen 71 16.3 7.23
Viktor Khryapa 26 15.6 6.54
Devin Harris 70 15.4 6.27
Jackson Vroman 40 13.4 5.95
Royal Ivey 56 13 5.35
Rafael Araujo 54 12.3 5.3
Beno Udrih 75 14 5.17
Delonte West 34 13.2 4.91
B. Robinson 31 10.6 4.13
Donta Smith 33 10.7 4
Kirk Snyder 63 12.4 3.48
Antonio Burks 20 10 3.38
Sasha Vujacic 31 9.9 2.87
Kevin Martin 41 9.6 2.66
Lionel Chalmers 34 12.4 2.44
Justin Reed 20 4.4 2
Pape Sow 21 6.4 1.64
Luke Jackson 10 4.3 1.6
Andre Emmett 8 3.5 0.38
Under-20 Summary
Avg Games Played: 40
MPG: 13.9
EFF/G: 6.27
Players: 22
Players above median EFF (combined): 10
20-and-over Rookie Summary
Avg Games Played: 50
MPG: 15.9
EFF/G: 6.39
Players: 30
Players above median EFF (combined): 16
I'm probably missing some players that may be rookies this year but were drafted a previous year. I'm amazed that there seems to be no site with a one page reference for "rookies."
*Stats apply to all games prior to April 12, 2005